TYR Wodapalooza // Event 2 RECAP & Event 3 PREVIEW // TEAMS

Sevan Matossian (00:00):

What’s up, dude? What’s

John Young (00:01):


Sevan Matossian (00:02):

Bam. We’re live Ler Jung and Hiller in the house. Is that the final event for today? Do they just start with two today? Two events? No,

Dave Castro (00:14):

There’s another

Sevan Matossian (00:14):

One. Y Do we have another show scheduled?

Dave Castro (00:19):

I think so.

Sevan Matossian (00:20):

Oh, okay. We do. Okay, good. Alright. Look at me. I don’t even know what the

John Young (00:23):

Fuck’s going on. I think it’s a pretty quick turnaround too to the next event.

Sevan Matossian (00:26):

Okay. I’m lost without Caleb. They’re all wet.

John Young (00:30):

Well, the first heat’s not.

Sevan Matossian (00:32):

Someone explained a towel to Andrew Hiller.

Dave Castro (00:34):

They dry you off.

Sevan Matossian (00:39):

I wanted to talk about a couple of things real quick. No, forget it. Let’s talk about the event, swim event. Enjoyable, any surprises? Everything looking normal. Andrew, anything that popped out at you, you want to just dig right into

Dave Castro (00:55):

Great event? The worm didn’t look like it got heavier like we were talking about. Maybe Chase was right. They wrapped the bags on the inside. We don’t know, but didn’t look. It was only beating up a couple of people. Great workout. Terribly boring to watch.

Sevan Matossian (01:11):

Any sign of the athletes showing wear, the individuals showing wear and tear from doing individual comps like the Romans?

Bill Grundler (01:21):

No, I didn’t see any of that. I

John Young (01:22):

Mean, Romans team obviously didn’t,

Bill Grundler (01:25):


Sevan Matossian (01:26):

Because they won. Those guys won it. They won.

John Young (01:29):

I mean, kind of easily too.

Bill Grundler (01:31):

I don’t think that anyone that there was, it was all based on that swim. So just when your swimmer’s in the water and you’re doing your burpees, everyone was just kind of on cruise mode and then on the worm. I think everyone just tried to keep it together. I didn’t see anybody really racing the worm necessarily. Maybe towards the end, towards the end, but I don’t think it really was smashing people. Honestly, I would’ve. You said it was boring, Andrew? I thought it was a great race and I think that maybe the excitement could have been brought up a little bit by people that were talking about it, but I would’ve rather seen the run because there would’ve been more because of them talking about how narrow the run was and everything and there were mishaps there that we would’ve liked to have seen. I think

Dave Castro (02:20):

How narrow run is

Bill Grundler (02:21):


Dave Castro (02:22):

Safe. What run

Bill Grundler (02:24):

The 5K run that they did earlier? All

Dave Castro (02:25):

5K run. Okay.

Bill Grundler (02:26):

I mean, again, you have a race where you have to send people out at 32nd intervals because it’s too narrow to have people pacing in a safe way. It seems kind of like an unsafe race to put together. But look at, I mean, we saw Justin’s ankles taped up. We saw that during the swim. Brian said that there were a handful of other people that twisted their ankle, so it’s like, okay, well that would’ve been, it would’ve been a lot of things to talk about there and I haven’t heard about anything. It kind of sucks, which would’ve put emphasis on the swim. Like, okay, is that going to affect them running? Is that going to affect them doing the burpees or the worm or whatever? That would’ve been interesting to know,

Sevan Matossian (03:02):

Is this a true or false statement? Did we just see two workouts that were basically the best runners win and the best swimmers win? Did we just see? Do we have a Totally, and this is not a dig because I don’t care what Waap Palooza does, this isn’t the CrossFit games. We’re not judging them for this, but are we totally out of balance right now? I mean

Dave Castro (03:21):

Sure. Yes. To the first one and it’s skewed on the second towards the swimmer. Yes. Well,

John Young (03:27):

As of right now, it’s two endurance

Sevan Matossian (03:28):

Tests, right? Look at and not only two endurance tests, but on the specialization side,

Dave Castro (03:34):

Not crazy on the swimming, but definitely skewed swimming.

Sevan Matossian (03:37):

So who are these girls? You ever heard of any of these girls? These scores have been updated. I don’t recognize any of these people. Look at, I don’t recognize. Oh, there’s the

Dave Castro (03:47):


Sevan Matossian (03:49):

Who’s that?

Dave Castro (03:51):

I think that’s, no, no, no, it’s not. No. Nevermind

Sevan Matossian (03:56):


Dave Castro (03:57):

Well, lemme

Sevan Matossian (03:58):

Read your mind, Andrew. Yeah,

Dave Castro (04:00):

I know, I know, I know.

Sevan Matossian (04:01):

Dude. Look at, we’re four teams in. I don’t recognize anyone. We just watched the triathlon.

Dave Castro (04:09):

Manchez is a notable name.

Sevan Matossian (04:10):

Here we go. Kelly Baker and Kelsey Keel. Those are the first first names I recognize. Now

John Young (04:18):

Kelsey was a swimmer, so this makes sense.

Bill Grundler (04:22):

Oh, that team would be great. And she’s a good swimmer. Spent time. She’s done at the game. She’s done at Water Palooza for a 20 years, which is in 2016. She’s been competing on a team at Guap Palooza.

Sevan Matossian (04:34):

Yeah, Juan Young. Laura Sanchez in third has an OnlyFans. Alright, so she has this experience. What, I don’t think that any of these top four teams or five teams, lemme see. Let’s just pull up number five. None of these women, none of these teams in the top five are going to be top five

John Young (04:58):

I think

Sevan Matossian (05:00):

At the end of the show.

Dave Castro (05:02):

The show.

Sevan Matossian (05:03):

They’re not.

John Young (05:04):

I disagree.

Sevan Matossian (05:05):

Okay, who Tell me one. Which one? I

John Young (05:07):

Think either RX performance or NGH will still be there.

Sevan Matossian (05:11):

This team right here. You recognize these ladies?

John Young (05:14):

Camilla Solomon Helman. For sure. I’ve seen Maria Lang Fors name got no idea on the first name.

Sevan Matossian (05:20):

Yeah, bro, bro.

Dave Castro (05:22):

John Young. I don’t you try to pronounce that last name. Antonio

John Young (05:26):

Antonia Fz. Kki.

Sevan Matossian (05:29):


Dave Castro (05:29):

Pretty good.

Bill Grundler (05:30):

That was nice,

Sevan Matossian (05:31):

John. There’s no way any of these teams can make it still be in the top five.

John Young (05:38):

You don’t know their abilities.

Sevan Matossian (05:40):

I don’t. You’re right. But the fact that I’ve never heard of neither

John Young (05:42):

Do I.

Sevan Matossian (05:43):

The fact that I’ve never heard it could be great. Listen, I don’t know their abilities, but I’ve been watching the sport a little bit.

John Young (05:49):

Yeah, for sure.

Sevan Matossian (05:50):

And let’s go to six. Let’s go to six. Let’s see. Let’s see. Six.

John Young (05:54):

I think they’re going to be second place. There you

Dave Castro (05:55):


Sevan Matossian (05:56):

This team right here.

John Young (05:58):


Sevan Matossian (06:00):

At the end of five workouts you think this team’s going to be in? Do they go in the water? Do they go in the water again?

Dave Castro (06:07):

No, no.

Sevan Matossian (06:08):

Yeah, no, sorry dude. Top six won’t even top six will not be anywhere near the top five. Let’s go here. Another one.

John Young (06:17):

I don’t think that’ll be there.

Sevan Matossian (06:18):


Dave Castro (06:20):

Toast. But

John Young (06:21):

I think stronger than a nineties trend will be there. I think Frog Grips will be there and I think one of RX performance or NGH will be there. I think Scandinavian can climb back up there. That’s four out of five teams right there.

Sevan Matossian (06:33):

Hey, this is the first team, team Scandinavian. They’re tied, right? That team might be in the top five at the end of the weekend.

John Young (06:43):

Where’s Ice Bucket?

Bill Grundler (06:46):

They’re down. They were down on that last

John Young (06:47):

One. No, I know, I know. I’m just wondering where they’re

Sevan Matossian (06:50):

Team Ice Barrel is Abrook Wells, Bailey Rail page Powers.

John Young (06:54):

If they run the table, will they win?

Sevan Matossian (06:58):

What does that mean? Three first places in a row?

John Young (07:00):

Yeah. I say no.

Bill Grundler (07:05):

I don’t think they’ll get three first places.

John Young (07:07):

I’m not saying they will. I’m saying if they do, I still don’t think they’ll win at this point.

Dave Castro (07:12):

Oh no, they’re down by 50, 60 points already, right? They’re toast.

John Young (07:18):

I don’t think they’re toast. I bet they end up top three. They

Bill Grundler (07:21):

Came to have fun. They came to just have fun. I

John Young (07:23):

Bet they still end up top three.

Dave Castro (07:30):

Is that

Sevan Matossian (07:30):

Hunter? Listen, listen.

John Young (07:32):

It looks like, can you

Dave Castro (07:33):

Hear that Harry Balls on you? It’s got to be Hunter.

John Young (07:36):

No, that might be Harry. He looks like that too.

Sevan Matossian (07:39):

Who y’all got for the best hotdog during the swim event? Oh no. I didn’t even notice any. Oh, best hog. Same thing. I

John Young (07:47):

All, this wasn’t at the swim, so I don’t know.

Sevan Matossian (07:50):

Yeah, I didn’t see any hot dogs. I will say this, it is that bathing suit, competition, that whole thing is pretty wild on the grand scale of sensory overload. It’s pretty wild. I mean, the fittest human beings with the craziest physiques wearing the most minimal clothes, jumping in and out of the water, getting in all sorts of crazy positions. I mean, it is a sensory overload. Someone was telling me the warmup area is just absolutely batshit crazy

Dave Castro (08:22):

And only 7,000 live viewers.

Sevan Matossian (08:24):

Yeah, I mean, think

John Young (08:27):

About, I’m with Andrew on, it’s boring to watch, but I think most endurance events are,

Sevan Matossian (08:31):

Dude, think about it, boring to watch, then you’re not looking at the right thing. 8 billion people on the planet and they take, I don’t know, 1% of 1% of the absolute greatest expressions of the human body through training and then put them on a barge in bathing suits and just, we just red line the fuck out of ’em and stare at ’em with fucking 4K cameras. I mean, if you don’t think you’re living in the greatest time in history,

Bill Grundler (09:03):

Are you talking about race cars and refrigerators again? Is that what you’re

Sevan Matossian (09:05):

Saying? Yeah. Yeah. You’re out of your mind. It was absolutely amazing and for anyone who can’t appreciate that fucking please go live on a satellite up, Pluto

Dave Castro (09:19):

Kind of hit their peak body expression, meaning they’ve built muscle, they’ve lost body fat, they’re in great shape, and then you can kind of see the differences between person to person at that point, and you can only really see it when they’re wearing swimsuits, when they’re wearing clothes at all.

John Young (09:35):

For instance, Farlow is ripped out,

Dave Castro (09:38):

Male and female has been, the dudes wear their pants. You can see the shape of their quads and the way their butts are and all that

Sevan Matossian (09:44):

That shit. So it’s so cool. All the RX performance team have games experience. Okay. By games. What do you, okay, Harriet, I know you’re, you’re threatening a needle there. What? They were in the adaptive division. Antonio. Antonio, okay. Solid was on the wall was Walleye team and Marie Lang Fors was on the press team at the games last year. Was there a few years ago. All right, fair enough. Getting schooled. I’ll take 50% schooling. Thank you. Oh really? F counters at seven. My goodness. All right. Alright. Someone needs to give me a dollar 99 if they want me to try it Hard. Sevy needs a drink. No, I’m good. I’m good. One drink and the whole truth will spill out. Truth for all of humanity. So I didn’t even think of it until just now. This is, we’ve basically been watching a really, really one-sided test. It is the best swimmers who won and it is the best runners who are winning because the field’s is level everywhere else. Everyone can clean and jerk and nothing was too heavy and yeah.

Bill Grundler (11:01):

Well, and the temple wasn’t really pushed on those other movements really either. The bur slow. Yeah. I mean for elite level athletes, they were cruising. It was probably hard for them to go that slow, honestly,

Sevan Matossian (11:15):

Because they don’t want to drown. Because they don’t want to just feel so nervous in the water. Is that what you mean?

Bill Grundler (11:20):

Well, yeah. On either end, if they swam and they’re coming back, there’s no need to really go fast because you only need to be moving while your person’s in the water and you have, depending on your swimmer, three to five minutes.

Sevan Matossian (11:33):

What was that Hiller? That post.

Dave Castro (11:35):

Finally, bill gets to enjoy the body talk rants from seven. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (11:39):

It’s like I live on a planet with robots where I’m the only person who enjoys the human form,

John Young (11:44):

But the rest of the competition is not endurance at all. You got hard gymnastics, hard gymnastics workout with lifting, barbell cycling, and then you have two kind of sprinty workouts, one with the machine, one with a sandbag, and then the other one’s kind of just CrossFit.

Bill Grundler (12:01):

Man, I’m going to tell you right now, me and Chase are probably going to end up talking about this too, but I wonder why they put both of the events, the endurance events back to back like that. Why not spread that out? I mean, why? Yeah, unless that was, and I heard Taylor and JR talking about this earlier. Maybe the idea is that that’s the rest day for those athletes that were really pushing hard, either high volume, high gymnastic, heavyweight, whatever from the individual, and this was kind of their rest day, active recovery day as they get into whatever. Maybe because I know that last year, talking to Kakowski and Vellner, Jeff, I mean, they said that they were just smashed after the team event. I mean, they were like, I’m beat up. So maybe that was part of their plan. I don’t know.

Sevan Matossian (12:47):

Off soon. Aun.

Dave Castro (12:50):

Wow. What a name.

Sevan Matossian (12:52):

Aun outfit. Look at that outfit. Oh my God. You just focus on American athletes. There is a world outside the us. I don’t know. I think those first six teams that we focused on, those are all foreigners.

John Young (13:08):

And you said that they wouldn’t be there in the top five after the

Sevan Matossian (13:10):

Competition. Yeah, and they suck. We only focused on teams. I told they suck.

Dave Castro (13:14):

Whatcha talking from Brazil or something? Laura Sanchez?

Sevan Matossian (13:17):


John Young (13:18):


Sevan Matossian (13:19):

Hey, listen, speak English. I brought the Russians on, which we tried to bring the Ians on and the translators and the whole shebang.

Dave Castro (13:28):

Speaking of Russian, did you hear Brian talk to Roman at the end during that interview? Ask him a question straight up response. Understood. It all got his answers across perfectly. It’s almost like he speaks, he

John Young (13:39):

Could speak English, man. I don’t know why he doesn’t.

Dave Castro (13:43):

I tell you why. He’s got a filter walking around to them everywhere. He goes,

John Young (13:47):


Dave Castro (13:49):

I don’t know.

Bill Grundler (13:52):

Protect, and I’m speculating, but it’s protection, man. Oh me, no English.

Sevan Matossian (13:57):


Bill Grundler (13:57):

Don’t understand what you’re saying. It’s protection. It gives you a second. Nobody

John Young (14:01):

Else does that. Gee doesn’t do that. But

Sevan Matossian (14:04):

Let me stand up for Roman here for a second. When I interviewed Miko Salo for the Sisu documentary, about a year after that, he goes, it’s really hard for me to be myself because it’s hard to be yourself when you’re not talking in your language. And I fully, fully get that. Right, because you’re translating the words. You can’t express any of, you’re not expressing the nuances that you would normally express or the gestures or the body language when you’re feeling insecure about speaking a new language. So imagine going somewhere new either. Yeah. I think

John Young (14:37):

If CrossFit’s going to R the rules for him to have an American exemption, then he should have to talk how

Sevan Matossian (14:45):

He doesn’t Welcome to the land of the pre talk

John Young (14:47):

Motherfucker. You get this exemption that you should not get because CrossFit wants you to have it. And I just think you should make him talk English. If he gets that exemption, he can talk English. He’s just afraid. Teacher. He makes you

Sevan Matossian (15:02):

Talk English. What state are you from? Are you from the middle somewhere making Texas talk English? Dude, that’s

Bill Grundler (15:07):

Where Roman is right now. What are you talking about? I mean, he’s around people. He’s not around just English teachers where everything is proper grammar. He knows the slang. It’s not that hard. And everyone around you can go to other countries and they can all say fuck off in English and know everyone knows exactly what it, he knows

John Young (15:27):

What it means. It’s not like he’s

Sevan Matossian (15:29):

Struggling. Well, just now, when he was on the stage, was Rosa with him? No. So maybe he’s in transition. Maybe he’s in transition.

Bill Grundler (15:36):

He’s in transition.

Dave Castro (15:37):

He’s in a computer as a female.

Sevan Matossian (15:40):

He did say that he is actually a Russian female. He did say that he’s not there to have fun. He’s there to win. I couldn’t tell if that was tongue in cheek. I couldn’t read the nuance in that. Was there nuance in that or is he just joking around or is he being Ivan Drago.

Dave Castro (15:59):

Ivan Drago.

Sevan Matossian (16:01):


Dave Castro (16:02):

That’s why she follows him around because she doesn’t want everyone to think he’s a dirty Russian Ivan Drago dude.

Sevan Matossian (16:08):

He’s a wholesome boy. He has a dude.

John Young (16:11):

More people would like him if that’s what we thought of him.

Sevan Matossian (16:14):

Olivia, there is no nuance. When Roman’s sidepiece talks for him,

Dave Castro (16:20):

I love Roman.

John Young (16:21):

And look, if he did not have these times where he is speaking clear as day English and he understands English, we see this all the time. If we didn’t see that, I would not say make him talk English, but he can. He perfectly understands it. I don’t understand why we’re doing this. Because he can understand everything you’re saying to him.

Sevan Matossian (16:43):

He can

John Young (16:45):


Dave Castro (16:46):

And we spend a lot of time talking about a foreign athlete as full or whatever

Sevan Matossian (16:50):

Your name is. And I’m bringing that to an end. I want to talk about Maderis in the coffee pods and wads interview.

John Young (17:00):

By the way. His ankle is just precautionary.

Dave Castro (17:04):

Do you go to Barbell spin?

Sevan Matossian (17:06):

Barbell Spin or something up? Can I at least get the question out? John Young is so good that I can’t even get the question out. I’m sorry. In the interview that caught don’t be. It’s not your fault. You’re amazing. The senior CrossFit games analyst worldwide, he says, he says his ankle, he says he’s in perfect health and then we see him with, it’s a thick wrap. That’s a lot of wrap. And John, you’re saying it’s precautionary?

John Young (17:30):

Yeah, spin interviewed him after

Sevan Matossian (17:31):

This precautionary is staying home.

John Young (17:34):

Well, maybe not to him.

Sevan Matossian (17:36):

Oh, here we go. Okay, here we go.

Dave Castro (17:39):


Speaker 5 (17:40):

Yeah, nothing precautionary. I mean just on that run, I felt it twist. Maybe like a mile in

Bill Grundler (17:48):

That’s not precautionary. After

Speaker 5 (17:49):

A minute it kind of shook off and I was able to keep going, but just a little sensitive. I feel good walking on it, but just anything sideways, it’s a little tender. And just in case on one of the burpees, it kind of went again. Just wanted to make sure nothing serious happened, but I feel fine. It’s not going to affect me at all.

Sevan Matossian (18:06):

Two things. His body looks amazing. He looks like he’s in fighting shape, by the way. I disagree. And grundler, you said that’s not precautionary?

Bill Grundler (18:19):


Sevan Matossian (18:20):


Bill Grundler (18:21):

Okay. Because twice he said I twisted it out there in the first mile. And so anytime I do anything to the side, I can feel whatever. He’s a wrestler. That’s his background is the last thing. Whether you taped something up or not, the last thing you would say is Yeah, that’s what hurts. You don’t want anyone gunning for it. And if his ankle was fine, he wouldn’t have had any tape on it. Because when you’re swimming, you don’t want your ankle taped like that. You’re going to want your foot to be able to flex down so you can kick. So you’re not going to want to have your ankle tight like that.

John Young (18:51):

Is there any other workouts where he would use his ankle? There’s no more running.

Dave Castro (18:57):

The second you get up out of bed, you’re using your ankle, dude,

Bill Grundler (19:00):

The what?

Sevan Matossian (19:01):


Dave Castro (19:01):

Second you stand up out of bed, you’re using your ankle, man.

John Young (19:05):

Nah. You know what I mean though. That’s

Bill Grundler (19:07):

What I’m saying. Precautionary. So I don’t think it’s precautionary. I think he hurt his ankle. Maybe not bad. I mean, okay, he’s got all today and tomorrow. I get it. But to say it’s just precautionary, I think that was trying to slough it off so people aren’t looking double

Sevan Matossian (19:22):

Under bill In 1974 at the Delmar semifinals, when you were just a young man, you came down off the rope, I believe, and landed on your,

Bill Grundler (19:35):

It was 1952,

Sevan Matossian (19:37):

Sorry, 1952. I get my ears mixed up and you came down off the rope and something happened to you and I think that was the last time we ever saw you at semifinals or it was the last time for sure. At that event you were pulled from the event. Is that right? And you twisted your angle?

Bill Grundler (19:50):

No, it was a CLI blew my ACL. Oh

Sevan Matossian (19:52):

No shit,

John Young (19:53):

Same thing.

Bill Grundler (19:55):

But I taped it up after for precautionary, so it was

Sevan Matossian (19:58):

Fine. Okay, so you came down off the rope and you tore your ACL and you were out.

Bill Grundler (20:02):

I finished the race. I beat people.

Sevan Matossian (20:04):

Alright. Alright. Sorry. Look at you. You still got a little fire in you. You’re not shooting blanks yet. Damn. Look at you. Alright, I’m just wondering now lemme push it one step further. He is truly the elite of the elite. No matter what we say here, he has a very, very good chance of winning the CrossFit games. Why not just walk out now? Why not stop now? It’s just a team comp.

John Young (20:30):

You got time.

Sevan Matossian (20:32):

Why make it worse?

John Young (20:35):

Well, what I’m saying is what would make it worse?

Dave Castro (20:38):

240 synchro, double unders.

John Young (20:41):

Do you think that would make a twisted ankle worse?

Bill Grundler (20:44):

If I heard him when he was running? Yeah.

Dave Castro (20:47):

Yes. Yes I

John Young (20:48):

Do. No, I’m saying the damage worse, not the pain you feel. I feel like you’re not going to break your ankle. It’s just going to be the same twisted. I’ve rolled my ankle hard before. It’s just the same pain. It’s not getting worse. It’s just not getting better.

Sevan Matossian (21:04):

You’re saying is it this event here? Where do I look? RX intermediate. What the

John Young (21:11):

They don’t do that I don’t think.

Dave Castro (21:14):

No dose trays.

Sevan Matossian (21:16):

Oh, here, okay. This is the one you’re talking about. Is this the next event?

Dave Castro (21:21):

I believe so. I

John Young (21:22):


Sevan Matossian (21:23):

20 wall walks, 40 strict handstand pushups. 60 handstand pushups. What does that mean? You can ki them if it doesn’t say strict. Yeah, maybe he’s

John Young (21:33):

The one that rests.

Sevan Matossian (21:34):

Oh, so here’s what Hiller’s talking about and then you guys, they go into 240 synchro double unders. Hmm. Okay, so I guess

Bill Grundler (21:47):

He’s going to do Roman. He’s going to do Roman single leg double unders and have the crowd

Sevan Matossian (21:52):

Just, he

John Young (21:52):

Doesn’t have to do anything. He can be the one that

Sevan Matossian (21:54):

Rests. No, it’s synchro. Oh, two

John Young (21:57):

Two work. One rest.

Dave Castro (21:58):

Alright. Damn cave. Damn down. Boy,

John Young (22:03):

That’s rough.

Sevan Matossian (22:04):

What did he say?

John Young (22:06):


Sevan Matossian (22:07):

Nothing. Oh wow. Wow, wow. Justin pulls out of Ellie. Not competitions. My God.

Dave Castro (22:16):

God. Why’d you pull it

Sevan Matossian (22:17):

Up? Inappropriate. I

Dave Castro (22:19):

Young. Stop

Sevan Matossian (22:20):

It right now. John Young pulled it up.

John Young (22:21):

I can’t pull up comments. I was

Dave Castro (22:23):

Trying to keep going off the screen.

Sevan Matossian (22:25):

Listen guys, there are people who’ve been around the sport since the dawn of time and if you want to dress like them, if you want to dress like you’re from 1952, you can go to the OG culture. You do can dress like Bill Grundler and Chase Ingram.

Bill Grundler (22:45):

I think there’s an a RP discount on that if you

Sevan Matossian (22:48):

Bill competed with people who wore jorts.

Dave Castro (22:52):

Ronnie Teesdale.

Sevan Matossian (22:53):


Bill Grundler (22:53):

Right. That’s sun Raw to you.

Sevan Matossian (22:56):

He competed with them all. You name anyone from the historic, the old historic period. He competed when Greg Glassman owned the company. For you of those you don’t remember.

Bill Grundler (23:05):

Wait, wait, who’s that?

Dave Castro (23:06):

God, that’s going to be a crazy thing. At one point, Greg Glassman owned the

Sevan Matossian (23:10):

Company. Hey, when I first started doing that podcast with Fraser and Josh Bridges, I hadn’t realized it had been a couple of years. I guess I hadn’t done the behind. I started that in 2022 I think, or 21. I couldn’t remember. But I hadn’t done the, maybe that’s 2020, but I hadn’t done the behind the scenes since 2018. Right. And so there was two years there that just a whole group of new people came in and never seen me in front of the camera. So people were like, why are Josh and Matt doing a show with this old creepy dude? I’m like, oh man, what’s wrong with Matt and Josh? Why would they do a podcast with him? There

John Young (23:54):

Was a running Go

Sevan Matossian (23:55):

Ahead. No, you go ahead. There

John Young (23:57):

Was a running bet that it would last no less than five episodes and then it was 10 episodes. It went a lot longer than I think everybody expected it

Sevan Matossian (24:03):

To 20, 20 something. 20 episodes. Yeah. Now who’s laughing? Motherfuckers. That was great practice for you. Yeah, thank you. I want to say also a happy birthday two. Her name is Anita and her birthday’s January 14th. I don’t think I’m supposed to read this like this. I’m supposed to act like Happy birthday Anita. Oh my God. Happy 71st. You the queen. I was thinking something along the lines of happy birthday Anita. Congrats on the upgrade to 71. Oh yeah. Yeah. Anita, congrats on 71. I am going to be 52 in March. I’m trying to catch you. Keep crushing it at the gym and have a wonderful birthday. Feel free to add whatever you like. Thank you for listening to the show. I’m like Joe Biden. I just read just everything on the, my goodness. Okay, Anita, thank you. It’s always weird to think that a 71-year-old woman listens to this show. It’s like, man, what happened to you? Your parents did something wrong. Yeah, that’s

Speaker 6 (25:08):

Crazy. It’s

Sevan Matossian (25:09):

Cool. Yeah, it is cool. Hey, when I went to the Legends event, the people who approached me the most were like my peer group in. It’s like women, it’s all

Speaker 6 (25:21):


Sevan Matossian (25:22):

Really? Women? Yeah, it is kind of cool. Call her Hi. Hey, hey. What you got? What need? Hey,

Speaker 6 (25:31):

Question for Hiller. Yeah,

Sevan Matossian (25:33):

What’s up? Oh, this is going to be intense. You can tell he’s took a few swallows. He’s coming at you hard, Hillary, get ready.

Speaker 6 (25:41):

I just got done eating. In terms of the way that reps are judged and things like that, I’ve always thought about this. Why not try to use something technology related? I was thinking I’m an engineer. We use counters and different things that work to automate processes, but it has a photo eye. Even if you just think of something simple like a laser level that carpenters use. Something similar to that where the athlete’s hip has to go below the laser level eye and then when it breaks the boom using something reflective on their shorts, then it would count the rep. And if they don’t get depth, then they don’t get, then the machine doesn’t count it. And so you’re trying to use technology in some way to, did that wall ball break if you’re talking about a wall ball, did the ball go completely above the laser level or something like that

Dave Castro (26:43):

Where, yeah, this is something I thought of before and maybe with what you do, you’ve thought about it a little more. But when the events are always changing and when the athletes can go wherever they want, and with the amount of money in the sport, I think that it becomes damn near impossible if there isn’t enough money or constantly changing scenarios for them to try to look at the moment. At least the closest thing that I’ve been able to think about would be a Wii Sports or an Xbox, one of those Xbox things that would look at you and you could play just dance and it would tell you where you were at. So it’s out there. The technology, I just don’t think that they’ve had the amount of money to throw it at this sport yet tier.

Speaker 6 (27:25):

And when it’s,

Sevan Matossian (27:26):

Hey, do you have any other ideas for technology? Give me something else. What else do you got for technology?

Speaker 6 (27:33):

Well, not even technology, but the way that they do the rig, it looks like they set the rig up and it’s permanent. And so then you have the problems of somebody like Kowski and Colton Merton’s using the same rig. And so it’s either too short or it’s too tall. It seems like you would be able to set the rig up with the horizontal member could be pinned or kind of like an L shape where it could swing up or down and then locked in place just so that you’re not making somebody either get on a box or wasn’t there maybe in a semifinals or something where somebody was dragging their toes on the ground when they were trying to

Dave Castro (28:13):

Do ghost. Yeah,

Speaker 6 (28:16):

I looked at that and I thought, that’s just thought about this for more than five minutes as to what are the different possibilities with all the different athlete shapes. I don’t know. You do

Dave Castro (28:29):

Sound like you’re somebody who has with experience, so what’s your suggestion? Because from what you said, there’s a swinging bar, but isn’t that part of the integrity of the entire structure if you were to undo it like that? Or have one piece swing.

Speaker 6 (28:42):

It’s not swing. It could be locked in place and it could either have a lower position, it could go down two holes or it could go up two holes and you would just need one or

Sevan Matossian (28:54):

Two. Dear Bill and Katie, er. Yeah. Hey, let me ask you a question. What do you think about men competing in women’s sports?

Speaker 6 (29:02):

Oh, that’s an abomination. Okay, cool.

Sevan Matossian (29:06):

I just wanted to make sure we’re on the same page somewhere. Okay, that’s good. Alright. Yeah,

Speaker 6 (29:10):


Sevan Matossian (29:11):

Question. You like the two sexes? You like the two sexes separated?

Speaker 6 (29:16):

Yeah. But if you’re not going to separate ’em, then just make a third category that nobody would watch. Well, I guess

Sevan Matossian (29:24):

They have that. It’s called adaptive.

Dave Castro (29:27):

I was waiting on that one.

Speaker 6 (29:31):

That’s low hanging fruit there. Right? My other question is,

Sevan Matossian (29:36):

I can say that I’m the only podcast in the space that has these guys on the show. That’s why I can say that.

Speaker 6 (29:40):

No. Who is it? Amy Breen. The one leg to stand on, I think is her IG handle. Yeah, I’ve met her, talked to her a couple times. She’s hilarious. I mean, usually very self-deprecating, very willing to joke.

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