Two Top Gs | Hunter McIntyre & Lewis Brackpool

Sevan Matossian (00:00):

Again. Bam.

Andrew Hiller (00:02):

Well, first of all, how’s my audio? Is it garbage?

Sevan Matossian (00:05):

Uh, garbage is, is is strong.

Andrew Hiller (00:08):

Okay. Not well.

Sevan Matossian (00:09):

Okay. It’s not good. Oh, yeah. It’s garbage. It’s garbage. It’s garbage. Uh, Andrew Hiller, your

Andrew Hiller (00:17):


Sevan Matossian (00:17):

Is, no, it’s garbage. You got like a How’s? Yeah, you’re breaking up.

Andrew Hiller (00:23):

No, I changed it. God damn it.

Sevan Matossian (00:29):

Oh, okay. Okay. How’s that? That might be better.

Andrew Hiller (00:32):

Yeah. I changed it. Hope it’s better.

Sevan Matossian (00:36):

What it tell me what’s going on? It’s just

Andrew Hiller (00:39):

A little tin. It was connected to the camera, so, so it’s still a tin can,

Sevan Matossian (00:43):

Yeah, a little bit. Go back to the camera. Can I, can I have, can I hear my choices again?

Andrew Hiller (00:47):

Yes. Yes. Yes, you may.

Sevan Matossian (00:49):

Wow. What’s this background? Hey, I gotta listen on my drive to work instead of wasting time at work. What is this background? Did you change it?

Andrew Hiller (00:55):


Sevan Matossian (00:56):


Andrew Hiller (00:57):

No, it wasn’t me.

Sevan Matossian (00:59):


Andrew Hiller (01:00):

This is a, by the way, this is sound a

Sevan Matossian (01:03):

Okay. Sound. A I wonder if I pull down these comments. If it, if you can see our,

Andrew Hiller (01:08):


Sevan Matossian (01:08):

Don’t have an Instagram account. We don’t have, we don’t have Instagram accounts. Holy shit. El Oh, cool. Jay, you’re not till next week.

Andrew Hiller (01:17):


Sevan Matossian (01:19):

Ll Bad

Hunter McIntyre (01:20):

Saw something really degrading in the chat.

Sevan Matossian (01:23):

You saw something really degrading. Oh, that one’s good. That one’s good. It’s covering birth fit. It’s covering birth fit. But that’s okay.

Andrew Hiller (01:31):

I mean, yeah, that’s

Sevan Matossian (01:32):


Hunter McIntyre (01:33):

Someone has to, you don’t have somebody hacked into our feed and wrote something about Hiller.

Sevan Matossian (01:38):

What did they say?

Hunter McIntyre (01:40):

It says right here. I heard Hiller has a chode. I didn’t write it though. Honestly. I was just a observer.

Andrew Hiller (01:45):

Let’s see. Where do you see that? Where do you see that? Doesn’t,

Sevan Matossian (01:47):

Doesn’t everyone have a Cho? Doesn’t everyone have a chode?

Hunter McIntyre (01:50):

No, dude. Not this boy.

Andrew Hiller (01:54):

I am a cho.

Sevan Matossian (01:54):

How about that? Isn’t, isn’t the cho the space between your um,

Hunter McIntyre (01:58):

No. That’s a Grundle. That’s a Gooch. A Grundle.

Sevan Matossian (02:02):

Dude, I can check the Urban Dictionary. You you don’t, you can’t lie to me.

Hunter McIntyre (02:05):

Cho is like a brick dick. It’s like a, kinda like a chubby penis. It’s

Andrew Hiller (02:10):

Like a, it’s like a little bratwurst thing.

Hunter McIntyre (02:13):

Are you trying to big dog me right now by not wearing your shirt? Cause I’ll fuck you up.

Andrew Hiller (02:18):

I <laugh> gold member.

Sevan Matossian (02:20):

Wow. I didn’t see just

Hunter McIntyre (02:22):

Here. This right here is real gold.

Andrew Hiller (02:26):

Is that what you won for? Rid a a 10 mile race with some wa balls in it.

Hunter McIntyre (02:31):

No fucking big deal, dude. They hand these things out. They hand these things out to the ones who win ’em.

Andrew Hiller (02:37):

Pull it back up. You’re all big and shit now.

Sevan Matossian (02:39):

I’m trying. I’m trying. Oh, here. Dude, this is incredible. A chode in the dictionary. Oxford, uh, dictionary is a penis, especially when characterized as being short and thick. Oh, like, oh, but here, so, so like a tuna can penis

Hunter McIntyre (02:53):


Andrew Hiller (02:54):

That’s what I said. Man.

Hunter McIntyre (02:55):

Your your boy’s educated. All

Sevan Matossian (02:57):

Right. You did say that. You said tuna.

Andrew Hiller (03:00):

I think I said browe, but,

Sevan Matossian (03:02):


Hunter McIntyre (03:03):


Andrew Hiller (03:03):

Brows is a longer,

Hunter McIntyre (03:05):

My painters are shaped more like one of those 32 ounce cans of, uh, Boston baked beans. You know, industrial size? No, that’s not

Sevan Matossian (03:15):


Hunter McIntyre (03:15):

I’m talking 12 inches, six inches di like six inches across. It

Sevan Matossian (03:19):

Looks like this thing.

Hunter McIntyre (03:21):

Yeah. Basically

Andrew Hiller (03:23):

Like, good luck. You’re gonna kill someone.

Hunter McIntyre (03:26):

No big deal. What you guys been up to? Yeah.

Andrew Hiller (03:29):

Hey, how do you, how do you like this comment?

Sevan Matossian (03:31):

Hiller makes Hunter look like a child. Dude,

Hunter McIntyre (03:34):

Hiller is an influencer. He is got a filter on right now. Get fucked.

Andrew Hiller (03:38):

No, here’s the thing though, guys. His hunter probably is, I don’t know, 15 pounds on me minimum. And he is also got three inches on me. So I, in this conversation, I am Yes, it showed.

Hunter McIntyre (03:49):

Yes, but lemme

Sevan Matossian (03:50):

Just say it. Also, the second definition is per, the second definition is perineum.

Hunter McIntyre (03:55):

How much muscle mass have you gained since you got on the juice?

Sevan Matossian (03:59):

He’s not on the juice. Quit saying that about him. I,

Andrew Hiller (04:03):

I am on the juice, dude.

Sevan Matossian (04:04):

Oh. Oh. What do

Andrew Hiller (04:05):

You mean?

Sevan Matossian (04:06):

You were in, this is the, this is the

Andrew Hiller (04:08):

Big connotation between being on t r T and steroids is that there really isn’t one. I mean, once the second you inject something, you’re on steroids and everyone goes, no, I’m just on t r t. He’s like, dude, shut, shut up. You’re on, you’re on stuff. And they answer the questions about 10 pounds of muscle. I’d say,

Hunter McIntyre (04:28):


Sevan Matossian (04:28):

Christ, Hiller, would you take B? Oh no, Hiller. Uh, what’s the, oh, cool. J would you take, um, B P C 1 57.

Hunter McIntyre (04:36):

Has your sex life gotten better or worse?

Andrew Hiller (04:40):


Hunter McIntyre (04:42):

More. Alexis, that’s not really, that’s not like a spectrum there. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (04:48):

What do you mean handle? It’s too much. Can’t handle.

Hunter McIntyre (04:50):

What’s your personal sex life like? Do you Now it’s look in the mirror. Do you look in the mirror when you masturbate? Is that a side effect of what’s going on?

Sevan Matossian (04:58):

Dude, that is an astute observation. That’s a great question. I’m here

Andrew Hiller (05:02):

Do three months ago

Hunter McIntyre (05:07):

You mean you removed all the years from your house?

Andrew Hiller (05:10):

I could, yeah, I could. I had to get rid of those cuz it made me start masturbating.

Sevan Matossian (05:13):

Did you really stop masturbating three months ago?

Andrew Hiller (05:16):


Sevan Matossian (05:17):

You don’t take the poison out anymore.

Andrew Hiller (05:22):

It, uh, I don’t really know if it does much. It just makes Alexis in more danger more frequently.

Sevan Matossian (05:28):

<laugh>? Yeah. Yeah. That’s awesome.

Hunter McIntyre (05:31):

Are you just like taking all your sexual, uh, attention out on Noble shoes and on your barbecue?

Andrew Hiller (05:37):

<laugh>? You, you know what’s nuts is I have all these shoes from the, I I I got a, I got a, I did the open, you know, the, the, my online competition, I had 800 or so people sign up and I’m getting all these emails like, where is the free prize? And I go, it’s in my, my living room. I’ve been out of town for a month. I have this big ass box full of noble shoes that I’m shipping to all these people, but they’re

Sevan Matossian (06:01):

Just shoes. You had, you had 800 people sign up.

Andrew Hiller (06:04):


Hunter McIntyre (06:06):

Are you an affiliate of Noble now?

Andrew Hiller (06:09):

No. No, but I have, uh, I, I got some shoes from somebody and they’re just noble shoes to give out to some people who signed up for the competition and I just have to ship them to these people. <laugh>

Hunter McIntyre (06:20):

Rumor on the street. I should bring

Andrew Hiller (06:21):


Hunter McIntyre (06:21):

Box out here. Should Noble is is is slipping right now. I heard their eyes. Mel, fast. Can you gimme two

Andrew Hiller (06:27):

Seconds box? It’s kinda funny. I should show it to you. Go get ’em. I’ll be right back. I’ll be right back.

Sevan Matossian (06:32):

No, no, no. Don’t leave me alone with

Hunter McIntyre (06:35):

Fuck Hunter. This is gonna be awkward.

Sevan Matossian (06:38):

Uh, look at that game man. Hiller was pounding Chevon last week. Why? Why?

Hunter McIntyre (06:47):

Dude, your fans are harsh on you. Why? My, my fans don’t do that.

Sevan Matossian (06:51):

Uh, Christine Young, do you finish way before her? Since starting on t r t asking for a friend. Oh, so does that mean her husband got on t r t and he’s just too pumped jumping her? Is that,

Hunter McIntyre (07:02):

I think once you get up to that, that aggravated level of testosterone, you don’t have time to make love. You only have time to make war. Can I,

Sevan Matossian (07:11):

Can I ask you a crazy personal

Andrew Hiller (07:12):


Hunter McIntyre (07:14):

What do you wanna know? If I were you, I’d take those things to Goodwill as fast as possible.

Sevan Matossian (07:20):

Do you ever No. I’m

Andrew Hiller (07:21):

Sure the people,

Sevan Matossian (07:25):

No one’s watching cuz it’s so fucking early. So I want to ask you guys a really fucking personal question. This is a question I’ve never asked on the show before.

Hunter McIntyre (07:32):

What’s going on? Listen,

Sevan Matossian (07:33):

Do you ever have, can you hear me Hiller?

Andrew Hiller (07:36):

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Sevan Matossian (07:37):

Do you ever have sex that’s like 30 minutes long, but it’s only two pumps at a time Every like 40 seconds. Cuz you’re trying to fucking mean you’re holding on for fucking dear life.

Hunter McIntyre (07:47):

Just, you mean that like, that bonding sex where you just like, you gotta

Sevan Matossian (07:49):

Switch to No, you

Hunter McIntyre (07:50):

Gotta switch to kissing for a while. Cause you know, at any time

Sevan Matossian (07:53):

No, no. I mean you put it in and it’s just like, oh, it’s, it’s ready to go. But you’re like, you’re trying to hold off and it ends up being just 30 minutes, two pumps.

Hunter McIntyre (08:01):

You’re edging the whole time.

Sevan Matossian (08:02):

Yeah. You’re taking like five deep breaths. And finally after, I don’t know, feels like an hour, but it’s probably like 15 to 30 minutes of that. You’re like, Hey, this, I’m fucked. We’re we’re fucked. Well, you’re fucked that,

Andrew Hiller (08:14):

You know what? There’s an ebbs and flows to it. I’m gonna give the ultimate promotion for California hormones right now.

Sevan Matossian (08:20):

Oh shit. Here we go. Here we go. Top

Hunter McIntyre (08:22):


Andrew Hiller (08:23):

Longest I’ve ever lasted was probably about three or four months into starting t r t. Wow. Which isn’t anything absurd, but like, it wasn’t the one or two pumps every 40 seconds. It was like, give

Sevan Matossian (08:35):

Us a time right

Andrew Hiller (08:36):

Now. You know?

Sevan Matossian (08:37):


Andrew Hiller (08:37):

How long? Yeah, it was, it was nothing less than 10 minutes, which is like a land speed record for me.

Hunter McIntyre (08:43):

Wow. 10 minutes.

Sevan Matossian (08:45):

Hey, 10 minutes of drilling. Is 10 minutes of drilling. Is

Hunter McIntyre (08:49):

I always confused by my friends that tell me that they’ve been having sex for hours? I’m like doing what? By the, I would say 15 to 20 minutes into having sex, my penis hurts.

Sevan Matossian (09:00):

Hey dude, those are people.

Andrew Hiller (09:02):

How about, how about the chick dude?

Sevan Matossian (09:04):

Is this

Hunter McIntyre (09:04):

Zoro? Like, who is this, this this mask mask lover that’s just such a magician of just keeping things so fluid and fantastic for, I mean, who’s got the stamina at the time?

Sevan Matossian (09:15):

It’s for people who eat ass. If you eat ass, you if you’re into things like that, it starts going into the, into the past, the 60 minute realm

Hunter McIntyre (09:22):

Around 2020. The, the women in my life started to wanna play with my butt. Wow. It was a huge change. It, there was nothing like that until 2020. And I don’t know what happened. Like some memes spread across the internet and then girls were just going into the gutter and I don’t like it at all. I feel very vulnerable down there. Like this is an honest man having an honest conversation with my close friends. No one can hear us talking right now. <laugh>.

Sevan Matossian (09:46):

Um, I don’t let anyone touch the cheerio.

Hunter McIntyre (09:48):

No one dude, that’s a tight spot, dude. That’s my last chakra. That’s my brown eye.

Sevan Matossian (09:54):

I don’t even let anyone touch anything like beyond the where the balls attach on the bottom. Nothing. I don’t even want my, I don’t want my balls touched either. I mean, I don’t want ’em touched.

Andrew Hiller (10:03):

No, when you say you don’t let anyone see that as if it was like a present day. But you should have said, I have never lit anyone.

Sevan Matossian (10:11):

Right. There’s been an accident, there’s been an accident or two. No way to

Hunter McIntyre (10:13):

Make this really tough on Savon right now. Why You gotta blow.

Andrew Hiller (10:16):

I know, I know. I’m, I’m think on listening to work.

Hunter McIntyre (10:19):

So are you gonna be, are you gonna like experiment with the juice? Like where are you going with the juice right now?

Andrew Hiller (10:26):

Well, are, we’re doing the pep

Sevan Matossian (10:28):

Pretty soon. Hey, wait, Hiller, can I answer that real quick? Hunter? He put too much in him.

Andrew Hiller (10:33):

Oh yeah. I made a video on. Yeah,

Sevan Matossian (10:37):

<laugh>. Look at him. Look at him. He’s the fucking liver king.

Hunter McIntyre (10:41):

If you study any of, if you study any of the, the way that like pro bodybuilders work, they actually just spend time on lower doses for longer periods of time and they just try to incrementally gain muscle mass. It’s those like teenagers that get ahold of this stuff that just like gas up really quick that end up peaking too quickly and then they fuck up their bodies and then they go back into the trench. And I don’t know if you guys have seen all these articles coming out about, um, what is it, Gordon Ryan, the guy who’s the uh,

Sevan Matossian (11:11):

Yeah, yeah,

Hunter McIntyre (11:12):

I saw. And every, everybody’s saying he, he, he basically, he did like the evil kl. He overshot, he overshot the ramp and now he’s all fucked up and people are assuming that he’s gonna crash and burn because of it. I don’t know. Hunter

Sevan Matossian (11:26):

Hold’s already. Hold burn. Dude, you guys hold that thought. I just wanna show you one thing really quick because I really want to talk about Gordon Ryan tell me this. I sent this to Hiller. This is the kind of stupid Patricks I’d like to see Hiller start doing now that his body looks like that, that’s exactly what Hiller would look like if he did that move identical.

Hunter McIntyre (11:44):

Did you know those like Czech Republic bar star kids or the fucking biggest freaks on the planet?

Sevan Matossian (11:49):

Yeah, I, I agree.

Hunter McIntyre (11:51):

They all they have is like war around them and pull up bars.

Sevan Matossian (11:56):

Okay. Where did you hear this stuff? About Gordon? About Gordon, uh, Ray, because I saw

Hunter McIntyre (12:01):

Here, I’ll try to forward you the post right now.

Andrew Hiller (12:04):

Body fat looks like for anyone who, um, says they’re 6% body fat.

Hunter McIntyre (12:08):

So I got a,

Sevan Matossian (12:09):

You’re talking about, you’re talking about this right here, hunter, right? From

Hunter McIntyre (12:13):

This? Yeah, I went, I went on a flight flying to Dubai and he actually boarded the same flight as me. And he, I’m not gonna lie, like I’m a pretty tough dude and like when I see other people, I size him up, I’m like, I could fuck that dude up. He was notice noticeably tougher looking than I was. That he was probably about same around the same heights. This guy, more plates, more dates, made the

Andrew Hiller (12:36):

Uhhuh, lol.

Hunter McIntyre (12:40):

This guy more plates, more dates is actually a pretty cool content, uh, creator. Like I, I appreciate his intelligent like, dude, come on. When you see a body like this go to a body like the other image that we were showing, like it’s so enhanced. Like you can’t, well

Andrew Hiller (12:56):

Dude, he he got really sick too. You saw that?

Hunter McIntyre (12:59):

Yeah. No, don’t get me, don’t get me wrong. Like you can get sick, but I get sick. He’s sick,

Sevan Matossian (13:03):

He’s got poop issues, he’s got poop issues. He’s had him forever. Something’s wrong with his stomach. You know. Who

Andrew Hiller (13:07):

Else looks like one of that? If you, dude, I don’t dunno if I should say this.

Hunter McIntyre (13:11):

<laugh>, come on, it’s here bitch. No, hold back. I

Andrew Hiller (13:13):

Write Jet.

Sevan Matossian (13:15):

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Hunter McIntyre (13:17):

Hit in the private chat in the wall though.

Sevan Matossian (13:20):

So where did you see that? He, um, he took too much juice and, and and, and put pushed him Mo like

Hunter McIntyre (13:26):

Well that was the thing I just showed you. They was showing you a comparison like that More plates, more dates. And it, it’s like there’s a couple like Instagram like, you know, pages that are referring to the fact that this guy just basically, he went past his body’s capabilities to handle these hormones.

Sevan Matossian (13:40):

You can’t, is that why he’s saying he’s sick? Hunter? I,

Hunter McIntyre (13:43):

I, listen, I don’t know the guy, I’m not a hater, but often if you think about it, like when you push your body to the edge, like you’re gonna have kickbacks, um, your body can’t handle it.

Andrew Hiller (13:54):

Click on more plates, more dates right there. Click on that little link in his description. Yeah, go to his profile. I’m

Sevan Matossian (14:00):

Sure he is got The thing is is that I don’t think Gordon’s issues are are steroid related. He’s had these issues fucking forever

Andrew Hiller (14:07):

Maybe. And then if you go to the top, go to the top right, you can see it right there.

Sevan Matossian (14:12):

Oh, okay.

Andrew Hiller (14:13):

Down a little bit. There you go. There’s the picture.

Sevan Matossian (14:15):

Okay, here we go.

Andrew Hiller (14:17):

Pulled up.

Speaker 4 (14:17):

Doesn’t rob you of your physique not being on cycle. Does l o l bro came off the GH and test too? On and off cycle. Damn. I knew he was juicing, but I didn’t know he was juicing, crying, laughing. <laugh>

Andrew Hiller (14:31):


Speaker 4 (14:32):

This is not a transformation of muscle game, but muscle loss this time. Gordon Ryan, he has gone from, you know, a relatively skinny guy to getting yolk.

Sevan Matossian (14:43):

He’s not relatively skin. Well he’s thin, I wouldn’t say skinny

Speaker 4 (14:46):

Instead of his goddamn tree. And then now going from yo of his goddamn tree to back the baseline. Seemingly he is now looking like a regular athletic.

Sevan Matossian (14:57):

Yeah, okay. I dunno. I like that. What would you call that? I would call that regular athletic Joe.

Hunter McIntyre (15:01):

Yeah, dude, he’s an even, he’s an average guy. A lot of

Speaker 4 (15:03):

People are saying he

Sevan Matossian (15:04):

For an athlete.

Hunter McIntyre (15:05):

Have you guys ever heard of the Colorado experiment?

Speaker 4 (15:07):

Lost all games?

Sevan Matossian (15:10):

What’s that? One more time.

Hunter McIntyre (15:11):

Look up the Colorado experiment with Casey Vader.

Sevan Matossian (15:14):

Okay, let me listen to the rest of this. I wanna see this real, I wanna hear this real quick.

Speaker 4 (15:17):

In the before looking like Hercules and here he is in the after looking like an average guy that goes to the gym. Sometimes his dried blood coming out of his nose physique has no apparent like muscle separation, looking depressed and miserable. He is not in a good spot. And the situation is actually very, very unfortunate. But people are quick to jump on this guy given how much, uh, you know, trash talk he has done over the years. People are basically just saying this, suck it up and you know, get over it. And this is what happens to when you get off gear. Like some of the comments are wild, dude, a health crisis

Sevan Matossian (15:54):

Doesn’t work. He even writes on here, his unique health issues aren’t, are not, are not a result of hormone use either. That’s what, um, more plates, more dates is saying.

Andrew Hiller (16:05):

I’d say they’re

Hunter McIntyre (16:06):

Total, you know, you know that when you take certain kind of products, it’s enhancing all aspects of your body. So it accelerates things that are going to be good and accelerates things that are going to be bad

Andrew Hiller (16:17):

Like cancer.

Hunter McIntyre (16:20):

I don’t know what’s specifically going on with him, but you gotta be careful when you take these things that are going past your body’s means of organically or naturally, um, you know, handling its own rhythm versus enhancing its rhythm to get super freakish.

Sevan Matossian (16:35):

I wanna say what happened to him though happened years ago that, and it’s a common thing with people who fucking, it’s not steroids. He abused it’s antibiotics.

Andrew Hiller (16:44):

Oh, he did that too. I heard about that, but it wasn’t an abuse. He had some sort of a reaction to them,

Sevan Matossian (16:50):

Right? I’m, I’m, I’m being a a little flipper. I’m being a little, yeah, I’m being a little, um, by abuse I just mean that something happened to him. He took so many fuck, he basically took the IV bag full of fucking antibiotics where it’s plugged into you through a, a stint or a stem for a month. And that a lot of people who, who do that end up having gut issues their whole fucking life. Dude,

Hunter McIntyre (17:10):

Look at type in Kevin Larone.

Sevan Matossian (17:13):

Oh, what, what this guy says, you’re on the right is issue, right Track, meaning you think it’s a combination of things, hunter.

Hunter McIntyre (17:20):

I just think that it, it, you enhance one thing, you’re enhancing all things. Your pendulum swings both ways. You’re like, I wanna gain muscle and get really strong and then all of the swings like the opposite direction. You’re like, all my problems are getting worse.

Sevan Matossian (17:31):

So basically like, like someone who takes steroids, if you have cancer, you’ll start getting a shit. It’ll, it’ll cause the cancer to spread. Like get worse.

Hunter McIntyre (17:38):

Look up Kevin Laron nowadays versus Kevin Laron peak performance and you’ll see the same exact thing. That guy was probably one of the most impressive bodybuilders of all time. And now if you look at pictures of him when he is off the sauce, it’s an identical comparison between the two of those guys.

Sevan Matossian (17:51):

Kevin, I see Kevin, Kevin, Larone,

Hunter McIntyre (17:56):

Laron, Larone,

Sevan Matossian (17:58):


Hunter McIntyre (17:59):

Let me type this in.

Sevan Matossian (18:00):

Oh, I see him, I got him. American bodybuilder. Okay

Hunter McIntyre (18:03):

Dude is a, a freak

Sevan Matossian (18:05):

Where I should go.

Andrew Hiller (18:05):

It’s bridge off just said right there and being on the right track and seven, I know you’ll love this if you’ve got mental he health issues and you jump on anything, you’re boned, you’re, you’re, you’re gonna go down the toilet so quick. Your mental health issues just go through the roof.

Sevan Matossian (18:22):

Oh, you and you and I were just talking about someone that we were concerned about that with. Right,

Andrew Hiller (18:28):

Right. Yeah,

Hunter McIntyre (18:28):

Dude, look at him back in the day. Dude, those pictures are so, he was a gangster dude. I think he had the greatest arms and bodybuilding. And then if you look at him when he got off the sauce, he’s just, it’s it’s almost like a identical comparison to the dude we were just looking at.

Sevan Matossian (18:43):

This one on the left is off the sauce.

Hunter McIntyre (18:47):

Yeah, I think like still great

Andrew Hiller (18:49):


Hunter McIntyre (18:50):

People are saying this like, look at, um, such and such, you know, uh, Frazier when he was competing versus when he was not like,

Sevan Matossian (18:58):

Yeah, but Fraser is natural.

Hunter McIntyre (19:00):

Yeah. I don’t know. I is that what you think? I’m bringing him into the conversation. But dude, I I go in and outta season pretty hardcore and my body doesn’t change really that much. If you’re, if if you naturally are, are designed a certain way, your body ain’t gonna change much. You might get a little bit more body fat. Like I’ve been drinking for two weeks straight and I look like a fucking God right now.

Sevan Matossian (19:25):


Andrew Hiller (19:27):

Let’s see that belly. See that?

Sevan Matossian (19:30):

Oh, you’re still skinny.

Andrew Hiller (19:33):

It’s, it’s all that hiin. Yeah, you look good. Hey, I like how you’re getting the angle on yourself, <laugh>. One second, one second.

Sevan Matossian (19:41):

Hollerer Hollerer Hollerer. That’s Hunter and Hollerer. If they’re one person, hunter, he can’t hear us, right?

Andrew Hiller (19:47):

<inaudible> the side.

Sevan Matossian (19:49):

Hey, hey Hunter. No, we can’t hear you. We lost you. Are you muted? No, we lost you. You pulled the plugs out of the, um, computer or something. Hey, what’s today? Can’t hear you. Today’s June 9th. Today is Friday. So on May 26th, I think Hunter won the high rock world champion. So that’s nine. That is two weeks ago. That’s 14 days ago,

Hunter McIntyre (20:10):


Sevan Matossian (20:12):

It’s fucking crazy. Are we gonna talk about that? I really wanna know about that.

Hunter McIntyre (20:15):

What you wanna know about Teddy?

Andrew Hiller (20:18):

How do you like that

Sevan Matossian (20:18):

Razer Fraser always leaned out, but he was not jacked like killer.

Andrew Hiller (20:23):

I hope you some people

Hunter McIntyre (20:23):

Just don’t, aren’t aren’t, aren’t predisposed to have that lien of a body.

Andrew Hiller (20:29):

Froning was, that’s why he is the greatest of all time

Hunter McIntyre (20:32):

The goat. Oh shit, I just broke this table.

Sevan Matossian (20:35):

Anita, Dick. Oh, that sounded like a drum sound effect. Anita, Dick and me Hunter is a sex symbol. I agree. Totally agree.

Hunter McIntyre (20:42):

And I’m cool with that. If I have to, if I have to bear that cross. I’m cool with that guys.

Sevan Matossian (20:46):


Andrew Hiller (20:47):

How many people do you know who have used testosterone, steroids, anything? I’m sure a handful,

Hunter McIntyre (20:52):

Uh, in professional sport

Andrew Hiller (20:55):

Or maybe even just closely personally where you’ll, where you’ll see them on a once a week basis.

Hunter McIntyre (21:01):

A lot of you

Sevan Matossian (21:02):

On that category, Hiller, can he count you?

Hunter McIntyre (21:04):

A lot of dudes? Like I was pretty bummed. No, don’t, I was in LA

Andrew Hiller (21:07):

Once every three weeks. Okay.

Hunter McIntyre (21:09):

I, I talked to, um, I I was it, I was down in like this place called Air One. It’s a fancy place where people with like lots of money and were very like health conscious hangout. And I met up with one of my really good buddies there and he had this guy hanging out with him who was like a young beacon of health, like very good looking, handsome, muscular dude. Um, and I’m not gonna bring up details about him cuz it’d be unfair, but we start talking and he promotes like supplements and he promotes like training all this kind of stuff. But then he tells me he’s on this like peptide regime and all these kind of things and I was like, dude, that’s like, that’s so much of the fitness industry that I know in LA where these people are training and telling you like how to get healthier and better. But it’s like, I don’t know, like it’s, it’s very clearly the there style of training and stuff is so like you’re looking up to something that’s unattainable through natural, natural training and you’re pretending that like, this is the way that I eat, this is the way that I act, all these kind of things. And if you follow my plan, you can live like this and look like this, but secretly they’re gassed up and like that’s that’s half of la I know a lot of girls.


What’s that?

Andrew Hiller (22:21):

Kayla as old as time though, right?

Hunter McIntyre (22:23):

I I don’t give a shit. Like those are the people that I know and it’s like, you know, whatever. That’s the fitness I was

Andrew Hiller (22:30):

Gonna ask you more or less if you saw the inner mechanisms of their mind and how it was affected potentially for the better or for the worse. Because I, I was gonna say how I mentioned and we spoke of somebody we know that maybe isn’t doing so hot mentally, but then I also know people who have been much better. So like if you started using stuff, I’d, I’d only assume that you’re gonna be a bigger version of yourself. Crazier, cooler, happier horny or all that stuff.

Hunter McIntyre (22:56):

I’d take on the world probably. Uh, I, I’d probably buy a Lamborghini right away and I’d take over the world just a little bit faster.

Andrew Hiller (23:03):

Somebody already

Sevan Matossian (23:04):

I knew a guy who had suicidal, who was suicidal and he got on T R T and it went away.

Andrew Hiller (23:10):

It does. Yeah. It can do it, it can do both. Well, do

Hunter McIntyre (23:12):

You, you wanna know one of the biggest side factors of taking a drug like that is confidence. Like if you all of a sudden go from being, um, kind of like a beta boy and just having like a very like low level of testosterone, low level of perception of yourself, low level of muscle mass. Let me tell you dude, if you start looking good and feeling good, you’re immediately going to project that you are good. You know what I mean? Like, if I put on five pounds of more muscle and I lose a little bit of body fat, fucking a, you’re gonna hear about it and I’m gonna feel good. Don’t you weigh 2 0 5

Sevan Matossian (23:45):

Oh you put on a weight?

Hunter McIntyre (23:47):

Uh, yeah dude, so when I was peaking and I was trying to peak, I popped and I kind of like overtrained myself in April and then I had to come back down and I gained the weight. Like I can show you pictures of myself that I was at like 1 96 and I was like, I’m a fucking God. But I overtrained and I I I kind of wrecked myself and that’s common.

Sevan Matossian (24:06):

Can I ask you some questions about, um, high Rock before we get too far?

Hunter McIntyre (24:12):

Yeah, let’s do this

Sevan Matossian (24:12):

Baby. Uh, you, you competed on May 26th.

Hunter McIntyre (24:15):

May 26th is the

Sevan Matossian (24:16):

Day and that, and where was the world championships?

Hunter McIntyre (24:19):

Manchester, United Cunningham Kingdom.

Sevan Matossian (24:21):

And did you have any doubt that you were gonna win?

Hunter McIntyre (24:23):


Sevan Matossian (24:24):

Were there people there who thought they were gonna win?

Hunter McIntyre (24:27):


Sevan Matossian (24:28):

Oh really?

Hunter McIntyre (24:29):

I mean, they probably said to people that they thought that they were gonna win, but they didn’t believe it.

Sevan Matossian (24:33):

And you don’t Yeah. You don’t think they believed it?

Hunter McIntyre (24:36):


Sevan Matossian (24:37):

And, and what was, what was your time?

Hunter McIntyre (24:40):

56 minutes, but I was 48 seconds ahead of the world record by halfway through and then I pulled back, um, couldn’t, I couldn’t hold the intensity

Sevan Matossian (24:49):

56 minutes flat by,

Hunter McIntyre (24:50):

By station four I had two minute and 43, 3 second lead. So halfway through the race and then I ended, ended up finishing with like 55 seconds of a lead.

Sevan Matossian (24:59):

50 wait, so 56 minutes flat.

Hunter McIntyre (25:02):

50, 56 40.

Sevan Matossian (25:04):

Hey, that’s pretty amazing that the guy closed in on you because being two minutes and 40 seconds ahead must have really hurt his feelings. That’s, that’s, that’s like making a statement, right?

Hunter McIntyre (25:13):

Brokovich is a good dude. Brokovich is a really good dude. Um, Austrian. Vienen Vienna is Austria.

Sevan Matossian (25:22):

And, um, what, what say, where was it again? Say where were you competing again? Berlin

Hunter McIntyre (25:27):

Man. Manchester.

Sevan Matossian (25:28):

Oh, Manchester Man. Manchester.

Hunter McIntyre (25:30):

It was a beautiful venue. It’s the Olympia Center there and it’s like this ancient building, um, all brick, all glass, like floor to ceiling windows looking out over the entire city. It was awesome. And the level of production and the amount of athletes that showed up and also the amount of spectators that show up was about three x the size of what it was last year in Vegas.

Sevan Matossian (25:49):

Wow. And what time did you, did you start, did you start competing in the evening?

Hunter McIntyre (25:56):

Uh, I competed at eight 15

Sevan Matossian (25:58):

At night.

Hunter McIntyre (25:59):

Yeah. It’s, it’s rugged.

Sevan Matossian (26:00):

Holy shit. And um, and then afterwards, you know, you won, as soon as you cross the finish line, you know, you won. There’s no way that someone can be like, Hey, he didn’t do this, or they can be protest or

Hunter McIntyre (26:10):

You can, but I had enough of a lead that almost any protest wouldn’t have mattered.

Sevan Matossian (26:15):

And did. And did anyone make any protests against you?

Hunter McIntyre (26:18):


Sevan Matossian (26:19):

Okay. Did you I

Hunter McIntyre (26:20):

Didn’t pick anything up.

Sevan Matossian (26:21):

Okay. No one was like, Hey, he cheated this or they shorted this or nothing like that. Mm-hmm. And, and then when you’re done, do you take pictures with people and sign autographs and shit like that?

Hunter McIntyre (26:31):

Yeah, it’s awesome.

Sevan Matossian (26:32):

Is it really like that?

Hunter McIntyre (26:34):

It’s crazy. I’ll probably take about 500 plus pictures throughout the weekend and it, I didn’t expect it to be like this when I, uh, dropped out. Um, last year was like, eh, I’m over it this year. I’m like, wow, this is a noticeable difference.

Sevan Matossian (26:48):

I, I wish you, I wish you wouldn’t interject when I’m in a deep interview, but when’s the last time you had a Costco hotdog Hunter

Hunter McIntyre (26:56):

Did. I haven’t been to Costco in about a year and a half, but when I do go to Costco, I get the pizza and I get the dogs and the ice cream.

Sevan Matossian (27:03):

Is it cuz it’s cheap. You feel obligated?

Hunter McIntyre (27:05):

No, I mean, like, I, I’m a black card member. Okay dude, I’m an executive club member and I’m gonna use all the perks. Hell yeah. Which includes the food.

Andrew Hiller (27:14):

I love Costco. Um,

Sevan Matossian (27:16):

And, and, um, and so, and so you win that and then what happens? Do you leave the next day? Do you leave Manchester the next day?

Hunter McIntyre (27:23):

Uh, no because then the open field competes the following day. So I supported all my friends and we just had a good time. We basically did not stop drinking until like two days ago.

Sevan Matossian (27:36):

Well, this is crazy. You have, you have the world’s fastest time, the second world’s fastest time and the fifth world’s fastest time. Hey. And um, uh, the, the, the course What, I don’t even know if this is a fair question, so slap me around if it’s not, but was it a fast course?

Hunter McIntyre (27:54):

No, it was four lapse, more lapse, more opportunities you have just to screw up cuz there’s more turns. But, um, you know, it was a, it was a, it was a great event. Uh, yeah, I don’t, I don’t really ever pay attention to the courses. It’s horses, not courses. Like, you know, I think, you know, when you say somebody set a world record somewhere and in our sport, like, it’s cool, but in reality, like I’ve had people take my record and then I, I race against them a month later and I beat them by six minutes.

Andrew Hiller (28:25):

Who’s this guy? Tim Wishek.

Hunter McIntyre (28:28):

Timish. He’s a really fast, good kid. He ended up playing. So he’s under,

Andrew Hiller (28:33):

Is that under 20 right here you 24?

Hunter McIntyre (28:36):

He must be, yeah.

Sevan Matossian (28:37):

What did you just put in your mouth?

Hunter McIntyre (28:39):

Chew and tobacco. Me?

Sevan Matossian (28:41):

Uh, yeah, you hiller. Sorry, I didn’t mean you, hunter. What did you just put in your, in your butt? No, what did you just put in your butt? Hiller.

Hunter McIntyre (28:46):

I’m worried Chew and tobacco, you know, you can put tobacco on your ass and you’ll get pretty high,

Sevan Matossian (28:51):

I would guess

Hunter McIntyre (28:52):

If you guys ever heard a hoppe?

Andrew Hiller (28:55):


Hunter McIntyre (28:55):

It’s spelled, it’s spelled rape, but it’s like a, it’s like a version of tobacco where somebody takes a pipe and sticks it into your nose and blows it really hard up into your nasal cavity, like into your skull. Oh dear. And you get high as a kite.

Andrew Hiller (29:12):

Have you done that?

Hunter McIntyre (29:14):

Unfortunately, yes.

Andrew Hiller (29:15):

It sounds so painful.

Hunter McIntyre (29:17):

Yeah, I was like completely, um, I was completely tricked by some of these Debora people in New York City and then they put that stuff in my nose and I lost my mind and I ran out of the apartment into the streets and never went back.

Sevan Matossian (29:30):

<laugh>. I’m looking, I’m looking to see if I could find a quick video of it. It, it’s tough. Rapes a tough word to put into Google and get the, um, results

Hunter McIntyre (29:38):

You want. Type in type in rape tobacco product.

Andrew Hiller (29:41):

Oh, okay. Hey, uh, how come all these people are 30 to 34? Where’s the youngins? Where’s the Justin Madeiros is in the mall O’Brien’s of the world taking the hiroc scene by storm.

Hunter McIntyre (29:53):

I, I just think it takes a certain amount of time to be able to acquire that level of endurance.

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