The Ultimate CrossFit Games Behind the Scenes Crew w/ Mariah Moore & Andrew Hiller

Andrew Hiller (00:01):

Yeah, it could have just been, do I have to cease my mouth now?

Sevan Matossian (00:05):

Bam. We’re live. God, this morning’s workout was amazing.

Andrew Hiller (00:09):


Sevan Matossian (00:14):

I think Alou means goodbye. I really do.

Andrew Hiller (00:18):

Yeah. No. You ever heard Terry Cruz say it? Imagine Terry Cruz’s voice.

Andrew Hiller (00:23):


Sevan Matossian (00:23):


Andrew Hiller (00:25):

Maybe it sounds like goodbye again.

Sevan Matossian (00:27):

Oh look. Caleb, what do you think?

Andrew Hiller (00:31):


Sevan Matossian (00:32):

Is that hello or goodbye?

Andrew Hiller (00:34):

No, that’s later. I think he’s rolling over to Urban Dictionary as we speak.

Andrew Hiller (00:38):


Sevan Matossian (00:39):

Hey, Ms. Burns, we’re going to schedule, you’re going to see a ton of shows scheduled. We’re going to schedule two shows every single day. We’re not going off the air. We’re

Andrew Hiller (00:47):

Not fucking late. Yeah. And I’m going to put up three videos a day.

Sevan Matossian (00:51):

Yes. Matt called me. Matt called me Susan and I had a late night talk. I wasn’t sure if it was just how late it was late. Actually

Andrew Hiller (01:02):

Nine. What time was it there? Oh, it would’ve been 11 here. I like our three-way phone

Sevan Matossian (01:08):

Call. It just felt late. It was a long day. What’d you say?

Andrew Hiller (01:11):

I like our three-way phone calls. I’m kind of just sitting here wishing I was there.

Sevan Matossian (01:16):

I tap you in. Do you notice how I always bring one of you guys in without telling the other one? I do it really

Andrew Hiller (01:22):

Quick. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (01:23):

I don’t tell anyone. I’m just like,

Mariah Moore (01:25):

Good morning.

Sevan Matossian (01:26):

Hey, good

Andrew Hiller (01:26):


Sevan Matossian (01:28):

Hey Mariah, what do you think? Do you think Tutu Lou is only for saying goodbye? This guy says Tu Lou.

Mariah Moore (01:36):

Yeah. What’s the context?

Sevan Matossian (01:38):

I think he’s saying it like, hi, but I think he’s using the word tutu Lou wrong?

Mariah Moore (01:42):

Yeah, that’s wrong.

Andrew Hiller (01:44):

Good. Alright. Well, he is not here anymore, so maybe it was him leaving.

Sevan Matossian (01:48):

Oh, like he just, oh, okay. Mrs. Burns. I’m already having withdrawals, not seen more shows scheduled. So my interpretation is wrong. His usage is right. Don’t worry, Mrs. Burns. Oh, don’t worry.

Andrew Hiller (02:01):

Don’t you worry.

Sevan Matossian (02:04):

There’s nothing really to say. This is the team. Me over here, Savon. Then over, there’s Andrew Hiller and then Andrew, when I point this way, will you point to Matt?

Andrew Hiller (02:14):

One second. I did something really quick.

Andrew Hiller (02:16):

Oh, okay. Boy,

Sevan Matossian (02:18):

Here we

Andrew Hiller (02:18):

Go. Means goodbye.

Sevan Matossian (02:21):

Well, thank you. Okay,

Andrew Hiller (02:23):

Anything else? It’s like a paper

Andrew Hiller (02:25):


Sevan Matossian (02:27):

Tu Lou another. Oh, it is another word for a paper towel.

Andrew Hiller (02:31):

Yeah, paper towel to you too. Mr.

Sevan Matossian (02:34):

I peed on the floor. Can you bring me a tutu Lou?

Andrew Hiller (02:36):

Hand me that tutu. Lou. Look at Mariah. She’s already like, fuck, why am I here?

Sevan Matossian (02:41):

I was like, I don’t pee on the floor like you idiots. Uhuh Uhuh.

Mariah Moore (02:47):

I’m teaching my kid though, my son. Holy shit.

Andrew Hiller (02:51):

How to pee on the floor?

Mariah Moore (02:53):

No. How to not pee on the floor.

Andrew Hiller (02:55):


Sevan Matossian (02:58):

That’s a tough too. Really young.

Mariah Moore (03:01):

Sorry. Didn’t you

Andrew Hiller (03:02):

Say you’ve got multiple children then?

Mariah Moore (03:05):

Yeah, I have three year old twins and then we just had a baby three months ago.

Andrew Hiller (03:10):

I was going to say the baby’s a little what

Sevan Matossian (03:11):

She says we means. She did.

Mariah Moore (03:15):

I’m incredibly sexist to me. Any credit?

Sevan Matossian (03:21):

It’s okay. He’s fine with it. We know lawn mowing time behind the scenes. Fun. Thank you. Michael Banyon watching while on my flight. San Diego to Atlanta. You can do that. You’re watching this in the air.

Andrew Hiller (03:35):

Dude. Everyone buys the $8 wifi now Everyone

Sevan Matossian (03:40):

Gets you. Every time

Andrew Hiller (03:41):

Everyone. Starling was trying to get something onto planes.

Sevan Matossian (03:48):

What are you shooting with, Mariah?

Mariah Moore (03:51):

Well, I’m debating. I could go red

Sevan Matossian (03:57):


Mariah Moore (03:57):

I’m incredibly biased and that would make event coverage really nice and easy. And then we would get that. What does it go? One 20 at four K, but it’s crisp. Crisp one 20.

Andrew Hiller (04:08):

Why would it be easy? What’s easy about it?

Mariah Moore (04:11):

I’ve just, it’s my main camera for the past 10 years.

Andrew Hiller (04:14):

Oh, you’re used to it.

Mariah Moore (04:15):

It’s actually probably the easiest camera to shoot on. I think the Sony is 10 times harder in my opinion.

Sevan Matossian (04:20):

No kidding. How’s the,

Mariah Moore (04:22):

Because everything’s shot and it’s raw so you can go adjust exposure and color temp and all of that post, none of it.

Sevan Matossian (04:33):

What about the focus?

Mariah Moore (04:34):

Oh, the focus. It’s got great focus assist and the monitor’s huge. You can get a, I think a nine inch,

Sevan Matossian (04:42):

What’s it called? Which red is it?

Mariah Moore (04:45):

I would probably go with the Scarlet.

Sevan Matossian (04:48):

And then there’s no issue with cards and batteries and

Mariah Moore (04:52):

I mean, it’s no different in my opinion to anything else.

Sevan Matossian (04:56):

Wow. And what about for a mic? Do you put a mic on it?

Mariah Moore (05:01):

Yeah, just a big old shotgun.

Sevan Matossian (05:03):

And would you shoot interviews with that too?

Mariah Moore (05:06):

Oh yeah. That’s what we usually do. That’s what I’ve always done with behind the scenes with the documentaries and stuff.

Sevan Matossian (05:12):

I don’t think you should worry about matching footage if that’s your go-to camera.

Mariah Moore (05:16):

Well, I mean it would be, again, it’s raw. So it would be flat anyway.

Sevan Matossian (05:21):

It would still stand out though

Mariah Moore (05:24):

As looking better.

Sevan Matossian (05:25):


Mariah Moore (05:26):

It just, it’d be clean.

Sevan Matossian (05:27):

Yeah, there was some stuff Patrick Rios shot I saw in four K and then I saw later on some red footage of the same event and I thought what Patrick Rios shot was amazing. And then I saw the red footage. I was like, holy crap. I can’t believe it gets better than the Sony. But it was obvious.

Mariah Moore (05:46):

Yeah, I know. Not sold yet.

Sevan Matossian (05:49):

Okay. 50 burpees time. I know 20 people in the audience just had P T S D. Hey, not only can you watch this show from outer space, but you can join it. I didn’t want that. You can do money. Hey, can you look out the window and tell me if you see the curvature of the earth?

Andrew Hiller (06:13):

There’s no way.

Sevan Matossian (06:14):

Hey dude, I’m bringing a ruler. My mys going. Don’t see my flows. I’m about to find out if I’m a stationary. Protractor.

Andrew Hiller (06:25):

Yeah, I got the window. Hold the protractor up.

Sevan Matossian (06:29):

Johnny from my kids’ college fund to the behind the scenes fund. You’re cute. I hope your wife kicks you in the balls for that. Thanks for the hard work you do. Depending on how old you are, college might not be a thing or how old your kid is. What are you shooting with? Yeah, skip college. What are you shooting with? Hiller.

Andrew Hiller (06:51):

Sony A seven S three and I have an A seven four. That’s what this is up here. That’s what I do all my video design. It directly links into the computer and the A seven S three doesn’t do that. It doesn’t do shit.

Sevan Matossian (07:07):

Is the A seven four, the A seven four R or a seven R four? Or is this a different camera?

Andrew Hiller (07:12):

No, it’s the hybrid one. That’s kind of half video, half photography, but it’s also a little bit newer, so it’s got to help the features. One of those is you didn’t understand how I,

Sevan Matossian (07:25):

Go ahead. You won’t shoot with two cameras. You won’t have one As like your event coverage camera and one is your interview camera.

Andrew Hiller (07:33):

I’ve got one that you’ve informed that I should have a longer lens on to grab a bunch of B-roll with. And then one that I should have a shorter lens on the shotgun mic on to interview

Sevan Matossian (07:42):

With. Okay. Yeah, that’s how I’m doing too. And Mariah, you just shoot with one camera and then what do you do? Switch lenses.

Andrew Hiller (07:53):

This is the interview one. It’s right

Sevan Matossian (07:55):

Here. I like it. Look at you.

Andrew Hiller (07:58):

That’s good setup up. I’ve been practicing it. Yeah.

Mariah Moore (08:02):

What lens you got on there?

Andrew Hiller (08:04):

It’s 24 to 72 8 Sony.

Sevan Matossian (08:13):

I’m going to shoot fixed.

Andrew Hiller (08:15):

I’m going to refer to you on a lot of stuff the same way that I refer to step on a lot of stuff. Are you frozen? No. I was

Sevan Matossian (08:24):

Listening’s a very still gi. She’s

Andrew Hiller (08:28):

Like this fucking idiot. What’s he doing with this shit? That’s what I was going to say. I’m like, oh no, she’s making me feel something. She’s judging.

Mariah Moore (08:38):

No, no, no. Because that’s what I was thinking about that I’m like, okay, the Sony’s a lot. Cause it’s a full frame camera, right? So it’s a lot wider. So I was thinking about if I want Sony, I would’ve to get a smaller mic because the shotgun that I would have, I like to shoot on a 16 to 35 for behind the scenes. The mic would definitely be in the shot.

Andrew Hiller (08:55):

I’ve got a 20.

Sevan Matossian (08:57):

When does it get in the shot? When you pull back to 16 mil, you’ll see the mic

Mariah Moore (09:01):

On the Sony. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (09:04):

I’m using a long Sennheiser mic on mine with a 20 mil on my Sony, but I’m bringing an audio Technica short one

Mariah Moore (09:11):

X L R. Yeah. Yeah, that’s what I was thinking of having to get a small one. I have the road mic that’s big too. And I’m just like, that would get in the shot. I would be concerned it would.

Sevan Matossian (09:23):

Sarah Cox. Thank you. Hey Sarah. Wait till you see I didn’t show you this. We got some bumpers last night that came in that will be put in on all of our reels. Awesome. They came in last night.

Andrew Hiller (09:36):

Mariah, I’m going to shoot everything on this to go, bro. Can you match footage on this?

Sevan Matossian (09:44):

It’s flat. Hey, the thing is Hillary, it’s actually not a horrible idea if you had a place to mount it on top of one of your cameras.

Andrew Hiller (09:55):

Oh, I can do that. I just got that.

Mariah Moore (09:57):

No, you know what need to do? You know what you need to do is you need to ask Davey if you can mount it to one of the bikes.

Sevan Matossian (10:03):

Oh dude, I have a memory. Memory

Andrew Hiller (10:06):

That’ll record for 10 hours. I can just stick it somewhere. Let it go.

Mariah Moore (10:11):

Just ask him. You do it Sevan. You have a better chance of getting a yes

Sevan Matossian (10:15):

Or find an athlete. I bet there’s nothing against the athletes doing it.

Mariah Moore (10:20):

I’m sure they would have to get it cleared

Sevan Matossian (10:23):

To. Has an athlete ever worn a camera out there on the field to play in any of the events that you know of?

Mariah Moore (10:27):

Not that I’m aware of, which just makes me think they were probably not allowed to.

Sevan Matossian (10:31):

I think I’ve only seen it at Rogue. Interesting. I can see one of those athletes doing that for their ig, going out there with their phone, setting it out there for the workout.

Mariah Moore (10:41):


Andrew Hiller (10:42):

Local compensation athletes do that all the time. And they put their phone down at the end of the lane live streaming to Instagram or something. They do. It’s very common.

Sevan Matossian (10:52):

Hey, also, it’s also like, hey, if they call you on a bad rep or something, you have your own footage. Like, hey here, check this out.

Andrew Hiller (11:00):

And then they’ll say, you can’t use that because screw you. That’s why.

Sevan Matossian (11:06):

Hey, I was thinking about mailing my peptides to the hotel,

Andrew Hiller (11:12):

Put an order

Mariah Moore (11:12):

Banned substances.

Sevan Matossian (11:14):

I don’t know if they’re banned. I just don’t want to get on the plane with a bunch of needles and cotton. Dude, you’re flying out of the Bay Area. You’re good to go. I hate ’em out. Fucking hate,

Andrew Hiller (11:24):

Sir. Did you want one of your needles? You got your own. Okay. Narcan. Okay, you’re all set. Thank you. Next in line please.

Sevan Matossian (11:31):

They have a place for what?

Andrew Hiller (11:34):

This isn’t legal advice, but you’re probably right. You should send ’em in the mail and then at the very minimum, don’t bring ’em on the plane with you. Check those and even then you still should send ’em in the mail.

Sevan Matossian (11:48):

Do you think I could put the needles in my bag?

Andrew Hiller (11:51):

The one that you’re checking? Sure.

Sevan Matossian (11:53):


Andrew Hiller (11:54):

Yeah. I’d say there’s a 10% chance you get bone.

Andrew Hiller (12:02):

10%. You say count me in.

Andrew Hiller (12:05):


Sevan Matossian (12:06):

Hey, the needles are in bags. It’s not, needles aren’t illegal. I ordered them on Amazon.

Andrew Hiller (12:11):

Peter Lou?

Sevan Matossian (12:12):


Andrew Hiller (12:15):

I can’t order those on Amazon. Here.

Sevan Matossian (12:18):

Say it again.

Andrew Hiller (12:19):

I can’t order those on Amazon here. They don’t send to my house.

Sevan Matossian (12:22):

Oh, to Chicago?

Andrew Hiller (12:24):


Sevan Matossian (12:25):

Hey Mariah, how long before you’re completely covered in sweat out there? You’ll go out there, you’ll grab your camera. Do you do fanny pack? Oh yeah. And then do you do a strap around your neck for your camera?

Mariah Moore (12:39):


Andrew Hiller (12:41):

What do you do?

Sevan Matossian (12:41):

You just hold it?

Mariah Moore (12:43):

Yeah. They’re too big for, yeah, they’re too big to just let go of

Sevan Matossian (12:47):

You. Your whole neck will come down when you set it down. And then how long before? You’re just completely covered in sweat.

Mariah Moore (12:55):


Sevan Matossian (12:56):

Minutes? Yeah. Okay, good. That entry period’s kind of weird, right?

Mariah Moore (13:00):

What do you mean by that?

Sevan Matossian (13:01):

I just remember when I shoot in hot conditions, it’s like, oh, this sucks, this sucks. I’m cool with this. You’re just wet. You go from just kind of sweaty to like, alright, I’m soaked. I’m good.

Mariah Moore (13:12):

Yeah, you and I are a bit spoiled being in California. Weather anywhere else sucks compared to here.

Sevan Matossian (13:18):

And so you just accept the sweatiness. You wear deodorant. You wear deodorant?

Mariah Moore (13:22):

Yeah. You, I’m applying it like 10 times a day.

Sevan Matossian (13:25):

Wow. Hippie stuff or the stuff with chemicals and aluminum in it?

Mariah Moore (13:30):

No, the hippie shit. The kind that makes your armpits hurt.

Sevan Matossian (13:33):

Oh, you have a rock like a

Andrew Hiller (13:35):


Sevan Matossian (13:39):

Is that what you have? Do you have the crystal? No

Mariah Moore (13:42):

Native I think it is. It’s kind of hippie, kind of not. It’s like the Greenwashed hippie shit.

Sevan Matossian (13:48):

Caleb’s going to find it. I think I am going to bring a stick of deodorant on this trip.

Mariah Moore (13:54):

Do you not wear deodorant?

Sevan Matossian (13:55):

No. Never.

Mariah Moore (13:56):

Okay. Did you go through a phase where you smelled like shit and then all of a sudden you didn’t smell like anything anymore?

Sevan Matossian (14:01):

No. No. I don’t

Mariah Moore (14:03):

Remember. Or do you just smell that all the time?

Sevan Matossian (14:05):

I don’t know. Do I smell Susa? When you think of me, do you think of me a smell? I’m fine if I do.

Andrew Hiller (14:12):

No, you do not smell and I don’t really wear a lot of tea.

Mariah Moore (14:15):

Yeah, that’s the stuff I use.

Sevan Matossian (14:18):

Hey, Mariah. Hiller doesn’t use soap at all. I don’t use soap on my hair. He doesn’t use body soap even. I

Mariah Moore (14:23):

Don’t wash my body either.

Andrew Hiller (14:25):

Oh, I wonder how many people do.

Mariah Moore (14:27):

I mean, why isn’t it that you’re stripping the good oils off your skin anyway? Well, one, you’re not supposed to shower every day. That’s

Andrew Hiller (14:36):

What they say about hair too. If you use shampoo, it strips the oil out of your hair.

Mariah Moore (14:40):

Yeah. So I only shampoo my hair once a week.

Andrew Hiller (14:43):

Me too. That’s common. Fucked the fuck up a little bit.

Sevan Matossian (14:48):

I used to wash my face when I was in high school and stuff when I had zits. And then somewhere along the line I just stopped washing my face. And

Andrew Hiller (14:54):

Did you see any better think? That’s actually when I figured it out in high school. I’m thinking the more I use this crap to fix the acne, the worse it gets. And I stopped using it and it went away. Why would I use anything?

Mariah Moore (15:05):

How often do you bathe your kids? Lon?

Sevan Matossian (15:08):

A lot.

Mariah Moore (15:09):


Sevan Matossian (15:09):

Yeah, basically. So my kids all sweat now, but when I say bathe them, I mean

Mariah Moore (15:17):

Just a boy thing.

Sevan Matossian (15:18):

I just put ’em in the shower. So every, and it is also like this, right? So if I take ’em somewhere, let’s say if we go play tennis for three hours and then they have juujitsu, I have to bathe them. I have to wash their feet. They can’t get on the mats all dirty and no kid wants to roll with them. So then I’ll put them in the shower. And when I say put ’em in the shower, I have this kind of open shower and I put all three of them in it and then they’ll ask me to come in there. And so I just kind of hang out in the bathroom. I’m usually looking at Instagram and shit and just talking to ’em. And then I try to keep them clean before Jiujitsu. Then they do Jiujitsu or some other tennis. Then we come home and work out and then they shower again.

Mariah Moore (15:56):

That’s what my son looks like every day. You know what we do? We were making a joke yesterday, Tyson and I about how he’s got, my son wears two outfits a day, like a pre-app outfit and a post nap outfit because he’s so fucking filthy by the time you down for a nap that he’s got to get a whole new set of clothes for the second half of the day.

Sevan Matossian (16:17):

I make my kids change their underwear every time they come home because I remember being a kid and loved wearing fresh underwear. So if we go out and play tennis, the first thing we do when we come home and they jump on my bed and shit, they’re all over the house. So as soon as we come home, I’m like, take your pants off and change your underwear and put on if you want. Motive. Yeah, but I don’t like dirty kids to be, so every time my kids get out of the car, I wipe their face every time.

Mariah Moore (16:46):

Geez, you’re committed.

Sevan Matossian (16:48):

There’s only one entrance and exit into the van. So to get by me, they got to get wiped. Is that

Andrew Hiller (16:53):

A question you can ask me? Athletes behind the scenes, did you shower? Do you shower?

Sevan Matossian (16:57):

Yeah, totally. That’s a great question. That’s a great question.

Andrew Hiller (17:00):

When you shower, you can ask all,

Sevan Matossian (17:02):

Do you shower alone?

Andrew Hiller (17:03):

Have a super collab video. Do cross the games you, you’d be shocked by the percentage of athletes that said, yes,

Sevan Matossian (17:14):

Mariah’s hot. No wonder athletes prefer her. No one said they prefer her. No, no one said that. No one said that. That’s

Mariah Moore (17:22):

Just no one had to.

Sevan Matossian (17:24):

No one said that. Even first. Second,

Andrew Hiller (17:27):

We know

Sevan Matossian (17:28):

Crying out loud, just like so much presuppositions. Clive McLaughlin, my own personal advice column for how I should shoot in my dms behind the scenes needs to hear your interaction from behind the camera. Please get the deity four Duo two-way shotgun mic I sent you.

Mariah Moore (17:48):

So is that how going to do it? Do we want, because I’ve always tried to phrase questions in a way that you don’t have to hear me asking the questions that the context is in their answer.

Sevan Matossian (18:00):

Let me see this, Mike. I try to do that. I just fail.

Mariah Moore (18:08):

Oh damn.

Sevan Matossian (18:12):

I have two mics on my camera. Yeah, I

Mariah Moore (18:15):

Two mics is the way to go though. That way you can turn off one channel if you wanted to.

Sevan Matossian (18:19):

Thank you Clyde for sending that. Maybe you should turn your computer off for one second while I say this. I would never put something that cheap on my camera. Okay. But you can come back. Clive, thoughtful of you.

Mariah Moore (18:31):

Hey. But you know what? You know there is a cannon 50 mil like prime. It’s only like a hundred bucks. It’s a fucking good lens.

Sevan Matossian (18:44):

Yeah, I have some lenses like that. Yeah,

Mariah Moore (18:47):

I would use the shit out of that lens.

Sevan Matossian (18:48):

Yeah. Cheap primes.

Mariah Moore (18:50):


Sevan Matossian (18:51):

Yeah. Magnus Homegrown. Seon is the ugly friend that makes the athletes look better. Mariah is a threat to their beauty. I’ve always kind of felt that way about that. They used to call Greg and Lauren used to call Seon and the good looking one because we did all our projects together. So it was Seon and it was me and Carrie Peterson and it was just Seon and the good looking one. It used to hurt a little bit. Not a lot, but a little. Did you still see

Mariah Moore (19:19):


Sevan Matossian (19:20):

I don’t, but he lives near me.

Mariah Moore (19:23):

Yeah. Good dude.

Sevan Matossian (19:25):

Yeah, he lives near me. I don’t like to hear my voice. Actually. I prefer not to hear it. I prefer not to hear it.

Andrew Hiller (19:37):

End of your own shows.

Sevan Matossian (19:39):

Say it again.

Andrew Hiller (19:41):

That’s why you don’t rewatch any of your own shows.

Sevan Matossian (19:44):

Well, no, I don’t have time.

Andrew Hiller (19:46):

That’s what you say, but you don’t like to hear your own voice. That’s the real reason.

Sevan Matossian (19:50):

Oh, maybe that too.

Andrew Hiller (19:51):

I know

Sevan Matossian (19:55):

We will start shooting. When do you get in Mariah?

Mariah Moore (19:58):

Wednesday. Wednesday night. I can’t. I got too many kids.

Sevan Matossian (20:03):

Yeah, I hear you. But the events don’t really start till Thursday.

Mariah Moore (20:07):


Sevan Matossian (20:08):

So I’ll get there Monday. I’ll start getting up. Just all the stuff building up to the event. Right. Stuff with Dave, stuff with Adrian. Hiller will be there too. Hiller can start getting venue shots, B roll shots. Talking to, we can start interviewing. What are they called? Volunteers and judges. Why’d you come here? Just all that stuff. Just building up to the scenery, build the scene and then Thursday morning, hit the ground running. Kayla, what time do you get there? When do you get there?

Caleb Beaver (20:41):

Thursday morning.

Sevan Matossian (20:42):

And when do you get there? Susa? Tuesday night. Okay. And we have Patrick Rios and his wife coming. Awesome. And SU’s wife will be there. And so we’ll have a good team of producers to help with keeping all the camera people fed. And then I guess my only concern is then we just need to put together a plan for, and we’ll take your lead on that, Mariah, on how we want to ingest the footage and duplicate it. And then also there’s a gentleman there named Eric Barnhard who’s running the broadcast and just be ready in case he needs something of ours. They haven’t said that they would, but I would love to if they did need something to do our part to contribute to that. You know what I mean? If they’re on the broadcast and we had some sort of angle or interview or something that they wanted.

Mariah Moore (21:37):

Yeah, Barney’s fantastic.

Sevan Matossian (21:39):

You call ’em Barney.

Mariah Moore (21:40):


Sevan Matossian (21:41):

Can I call ’em that or should I just go with Mr. Barnhardt?

Mariah Moore (21:44):

I think you can do whatever you want.

Sevan Matossian (21:45):

Alright, cool. Mr. Rambler, go ahead.

Andrew Hiller (21:50):

No, I’m going to call him Barney. That’s all. It’s cool. I like that. I like Barney. It’s a good dinosaur

Sevan Matossian (21:57):

Ram. Ask what they ate and drank before each event. That too. It’s fine. You can always start with some dumb questions too. It’s fine. It’s good. No, don’t feel any judgment. Mariah, please film Savon interviewing Laura Horvat.

Mariah Moore (22:18):

Okay. Why?

Sevan Matossian (22:21):

Hey, because we have a trippy thing going. What do you mean? What’s the deal with Laura, you good with filming? Laura? I was listening to Lauren Khalil talk about her too. It sounds like she doesn’t do any interviews anymore, but at the event, sounds like she does do interviews.

Mariah Moore (22:37):

Yeah, I think Laura, she’s talking to Ben. Ben’s her coach. I think they got a funny coaching dynamic. I think Ben suggests things and doesn’t tell her what to do. So they have a really great relationship in that sense. But I think she just doesn’t like to partake in any pre-event interviews or anything like that. She just doesn’t want the distraction. But she’s great on site. She’s really funny.

Sevan Matossian (23:07):

Yeah. And in the videos I see of her, the vlog stuff, she seems crazy comfortable in front of the camera.

Mariah Moore (23:12):

Yeah, she is. She’s great. I think she’s got a little bit of R B F.

Sevan Matossian (23:18):

What’s that?

Mariah Moore (23:19):

Resting good face.

Sevan Matossian (23:21):

Oh, I just think she has great skin and she needs to take advantage. She needs to strike now before she fades off into the sunset. And probably regrets not doing more media. Avon. When will the Stevon podcast sponsor an athlete? It starts with an N. Ends in Never Ends In an Ever. Yeah. Ends ever.

Andrew Hiller (23:53):

I thought you were going to say now.

Sevan Matossian (23:55):

Yeah, no, no. Sponsor a real shot it next year. Yeah. What is that? I sponsor Colt. We already do Sponsor. We sponsor Colton Merton’s. I mean, I can’t give anything more than, what do you mean sponsor? I don’t even know what that means. I gave ’em all free shirts at Water Appalooza. Jessica Valenzuela. Laura is probably just super focused. Here’s the thing, what I think about the relationships, I’d be curious what you think about this too. Mariah, being a filmmaker is crazy. At the end of the day when you tally up, even if you make a million dollars on your movie, you tally up all your shit that you’ve done and you’re like, oh, I made $3 an hour. And it’s hard. It is really, really, really hard.

Mariah Moore (24:38):

It takes a lot of fucking money and a lot of fucking time to finish out the last documentary. I was crying in my office at 2:00 AM every single night for three weeks straight when I was 38, between 36 and 39 weeks pregnant. Just to get it to the finish line.

Sevan Matossian (24:54):


Andrew Hiller (24:55):

About, because it was so late.

Sevan Matossian (24:57):

Both. Yes,

Mariah Moore (24:59):

Yes, yes.

Sevan Matossian (25:00):

Okay. Yeah. And Hill the other day calls me and he’s like, dude, this video made $234. And I’m like, dude, that’s awesome. I spent 1300 hours on it. I’m like, oh, sorry. No

Andrew Hiller (25:14):

15 hours watching stuff to make it. And I was like, wait a minute. That’s minimum wage shit.

Sevan Matossian (25:19):

Yeah. So at the end of the day, what you really are hoping for as a filmmaker, what you’re really hoping for is that you give your subject something that then they can parlay into something for themselves. Yes. That’s like you’re really hoping for that. You’re rooting for that. You want your athlete to come back to you and be like, dude, after I was on your podcast, I got a sponsor from Swine. And you’re like, yeah, that’s awesome. Thank you. That’s cool. It makes me so happy. Or Hey dude, my mom had never heard me say that and you got it out of me. And you just want to add value to their life is what you’re trying to do. Sorry, go ahead, Maria.

Mariah Moore (25:56):

Well, we’ve gotten feedback before too of like, Hey, some of these athletes don’t see the value in these. Don’t see the value in being featured in these documentaries anymore. And I’m just like, wait, what this is giving you this is,

Sevan Matossian (26:12):

I’d love to hear who that is. That’s why Vellner might just, the whole behind the scenes might be about, we had him on. He’s like, yep, I’m ready. I’ll take the media.

Mariah Moore (26:21):

Oh, and he’s hilarious.

Sevan Matossian (26:23):

Yeah, thank you.

Mariah Moore (26:24):

I keep telling Pat, I’m like, you are not allowed to retire ever.

Sevan Matossian (26:29):

Hey, and if there is no swim, he’s going to be the champ.

Mariah Moore (26:35):

He’s the people’s champ.

Sevan Matossian (26:37):

He’s going to be so hard to beat if there’s no swim.

Mariah Moore (26:40):

I fucking love that guy.

Sevan Matossian (26:42):

So the whole goal is to give a voice to people. Hey, I had that same relationship with Paper Street Coffee and I have the same relationship. I have a really casual relationship with California peptides too. But Paper Street Coffee came on and they’re like, Hey, I just want to add value to the show. And next thing you know, he’s selling coffee. That’s

Andrew Hiller (27:04):

Awesome. He’s about to open his first brick and mortar location. Yeah, he’s got employees. There’s going to be some cool stuff you guys will see at the games

Sevan Matossian (27:14):

Too. And he gets his employees from the chat.

Andrew Hiller (27:17):

Don’t we all? Yeah.

Caleb Beaver (27:21):

How do you think I got here?

Sevan Matossian (27:23):

George United States Marine Corps. Yes.

Andrew Hiller (27:25):

Holy shit. Dick butter

Andrew Hiller (27:27):


Sevan Matossian (27:28):

Are you going to wear old school nanos to the games? I am going to wear old school nanos to the games

Andrew Hiller (27:33):


Andrew Hiller (27:35):

Dick butter.

Sevan Matossian (27:36):

Dick butter. Dollar 99, Lamar Lamar. Get a profile pick. Dude, you’ve been in, I got anything. Hey dude,

Andrew Hiller (27:50):

That was

Sevan Matossian (27:52):

Make your profile pick oldest open Next hanging from the bar. How come no one’s done that yet? I

Andrew Hiller (27:56):

Know that was 1 99. Okay.

Sevan Matossian (27:58):

I know. I’m just so uncomfortable with it. I’m such a liberal. As Greg said, I’m the liberal poor man’s mindset. What?

Andrew Hiller (28:06):

I was like, Hey dude, it’s pretty good.

Andrew Hiller (28:09):

Pretty good. That’s amazing.

Sevan Matossian (28:10):

I think it’s a record. Mariah’s like Mariah’s right there. I should start a YouTube channel. That was the first time she thought that.

Andrew Hiller (28:17):


Mariah Moore (28:20):

I’m one of those ones that I’m like, please don’t ever, I hate being in front of the camera. I’ll stay behind it.

Sevan Matossian (28:24):

I can tell you’re really boisterous today. You’re really giving it your all.

Andrew Hiller (28:28):

I like your background over there.

Mariah Moore (28:30):

My office. Yeah.

Andrew Hiller (28:32):

It looks cool. I like the wait.

Andrew Hiller (28:33):

That’s your office. Where are you sitting now?

Mariah Moore (28:36):

At my husband’s desk.

Andrew Hiller (28:38):


Sevan Matossian (28:39):

What made you, oh, is you’re standing. What do you sit on?

Mariah Moore (28:42):

There’s one of those office chairs that you can raise this standing height or you could stand,

Andrew Hiller (28:50):

Oh, that’s what’s

Sevan Matossian (28:52):

The one

Mariah Moore (28:54):

That was the first rendition from the 2018 Docs Graphics. So that was one of those inspo, not inspo. It was just the first rendition of some of the graphics that we were doing for it.

Sevan Matossian (29:10):

Dick, that’s a lot of butter. You were really cool. Thank you.

Andrew Hiller (29:13):

Yeah, thank you. That’s incredible.

Sevan Matossian (29:16):

Caleb, where are you sitting? I always think that that’s your living room and you’ve hung a C e o Sev on podcast in there. I’ve always wanted to ask you, but I just imagine your wife thinking you’re fucking nuts.

Caleb Beaver (29:27):

No, it used to be my living. I used to be in my living room, but then I moved upstairs into one of the bedrooms.

Sevan Matossian (29:31):

Oh, so that’s an office?

Andrew Hiller (29:33):

Yeah, it office.

Sevan Matossian (29:35):

That makes me feel better. Damn. I like this comment too, Dick.

Andrew Hiller (29:42):

No, it’s damn dick. Like, damn dick.

Sevan Matossian (29:45):

Damn dick. Damn dick,

Andrew Hiller (29:48):

Damn dick.

Sevan Matossian (29:49):

Jesus Christ. Dickie.

Andrew Hiller (29:52):

Jesus Christ. Dickie.

Andrew Hiller (29:54):

Let’s see. Four picture get to every time.

Sevan Matossian (29:58):

Oh, I never even saw that.

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