The Dave Castro | Not A POP SEAL

Dave Castro (00:00):

This is, no, you’re not gonna

Sevan Matossian (00:01):

See that. No. Yet I, we can’t see. You

Dave Castro (00:06):

Can’t. We still can’t see. Oh, it’s, that’s cuz I didn’t pull the photo up.

Sevan Matossian (00:09):

Okay. Oh look,

Dave Castro (00:10):

Someone, that’s my view. I’m looking at two computers in his little forehead. <laugh>. How is this, how is this? I might as well have just stayed home. Oh fuck. I want to see your mouth and I wanna see your eyes. I can’t see any of that. Okay, well let’s, so I’m gonna look at you on screen and it just defeat, defeats the whole purpose of doing this in person.

Sevan Matossian (00:27):

I appreciate the feedback. Yeah. And I kind of have to strain my neck.

Dave Castro (00:31):

So let’s work on this. I’ll come back.

Sevan Matossian (00:33):

You have a nice camera. Hey, can you spin the lid around on that cup so it’s facing the other way?

Dave Castro (00:38):

No. So

Sevan Matossian (00:40):

That when you drink it, people can see that that’s a CEO cup

Dave Castro (00:42):

<laugh>. I’m drinking with my right hand cuz of the, if I was on the left side, I could, but on the right hand I’m gonna hold it with or on the right side of the table. I’m gonna use my right hand. I

Sevan Matossian (00:50):

Perfect. I fucked this all up already.

Dave Castro (00:53):

It’s good. It’s a work in progress. All

Sevan Matossian (00:54):

Right. Thank you. Thank you for the, uh,

Dave Castro (00:57):

I’m done. I’m done with, uh, that you can take, you can take your show back.

Sevan Matossian (01:03):

Dave Castro, creator, founder, inventor purveyor, former director of the CrossFit Games. Uh, here’s a picture of you 94 weeks ago. That’s almost like a, uh, a previous, um, lifetime. It’s not even, uh, uhoh. There we go. Ah, thank you. Is that a trip to see that?

Dave Castro (01:28):

That’s cool. I like it.

Sevan Matossian (01:30):

94 weeks ago. Hey, what have you done to your Instagram? You totally, uh,

Dave Castro (01:36):

So yeah, totally scrubbed it. Probably. When was that? It was definitely before I was fired.

Sevan Matossian (01:42):

Um. Oh really? It’s been that long. Yeah.

Dave Castro (01:45):

I, an Instagram account, especially when you start going back is kind of like, um, it’s a living room. It’s your house, it’s your, it’s your office. It’s, it represents you to some degree, uh, to, to every degree. Actually,

Sevan Matossian (02:03):

It’s your lifetime yearbook, right?

Dave Castro (02:05):

Yeah. And, and well, it’s, and it’s what you wanna, it’s what you wanna have forward facing. It’s what you want people to see when they search. And so I was looking at my account one day and I’m like, Hey, just like I cleaned my room, just like I cleaned my office. I’m gonna clean my account and I’m gonna go through and see, like, I do a lot of, I was, especially at that time, I did a lot of posts, um, related to, uh, let’s say, um, shooting related to motorcycle riding related to, um, even visiting affiliates that were to support, well in the term of, in terms of visiting affiliates to really support and highlight them. But they’re just like, you know, the same old photo with me standing next to people. And I’m like, these aren’t serving much purpose a year later, two years later, three years later. So a lot of photos like that I just went through and cleaned up. And actually, this is a good reminder. I’m gonna do the same bow. I’ll get it down to like a couple hundred. Um, I’ll

Sevan Matossian (02:58):

Just go through it is down to a couple hundred.

Dave Castro (02:59):

I’ll get it down to less than a hundred then. It, it,

Sevan Matossian (03:01):

It’s pretty, it’s pretty lean. It’s funny, um, the, the, your Instagram account, I guess is your every person’s own people magazine. Like, hey, just so you know, people are digging through your shit and judging the fuck outta you.

Dave Castro (03:10):

Yeah, for sure. And and especially now that I have the other accounts, now that they have the hunting account Oh. Where I post all my shooting stuff. So I’m not scrubbing that one. Um, I have my dog account, the dog account where I don’t really post much to that. And I also have the ranch account, which I should probably turn over to someone else cause I don’t do anything with that. Uh, so, and you know, they are, the funny thing too is especially ever since I got my hunting account, I folks spend way more time on that than I do on my, the Dave Castro account. I’m hardly ever on that account. I’m hardly ever, I should post more, but I don’t,

Sevan Matossian (03:46):

Uh, Barry McCullin, 200 people are waiting on the other YouTube stream. Holy shit.

Caleb Beaver (03:52):

Yes. Avan. That’s what I’m waiting to tell you.

Sevan Matossian (03:53):

Oh, fuck me. Okay. Call her. Hi. Tell me what the fuck did we fuck up? I

Dave Castro (03:57):

Fixed it.

Caleb Beaver (03:58):

Know what? Nobody’s on uh, YouTube. You gotta get the YouTube going brother. Everyone else is like on Twitch and <laugh> Twitter and Facebook. I swear

Sevan Matossian (04:08):

Dave, this never happens. I swear. Never.

Dave Castro (04:11):

Hey man. I’ll tell you what. Hey, I used to go on on really professional high level podcast.

Sevan Matossian (04:15):

I know. Like

Dave Castro (04:16):

Jocko, this shit isn’t happening there.

Sevan Matossian (04:19):

Uh, hey, thanks. And next time fucking text me. Don’t call in. So Dave caner. Thank you. I love you. Bye.

Caleb Beaver (04:23):

Jesus Christ.

Sevan Matossian (04:25):

That’s what Barry Macer said for that. There’s 200 people waiting on YouTube. My, oh shit.

Dave Castro (04:29):

Here we go. Someone named Dick Butter said he’d take the ranch account. Is that one of your regulars? <laugh>. It

Sevan Matossian (04:34):

Is <laugh>, uh, lucky camera straps. Uh, $31 in person with T D C. I’d have to watch back later, but I’m looking forward to it. Why later? Watch now. Hang out, hang out homie. An extra sloppy, uh, the c e o of Joy. Uh, post was great. Noah’s a good dude. What’s he talking

Dave Castro (04:49):

About? No clue.

Sevan Matossian (04:51):

I I knew it. Okay. <laugh> uh, pull up days again. So you didn’t, you haven’t seen it. You don’t know anything about what happened to your Instagram account?

Dave Castro (04:59):

Nope. So I turned it over to, uh, Christine on, um,

Sevan Matossian (05:04):

Who’s Christine? Who’s Christine?

Dave Castro (05:05):

Christine. Um, she runs, she posted to my account during the games, uh, multiple years in a row, probably, uh, two or three years. And, um, the reason I started doing that is cuz I tried for a number of years to post or do things on my account during the games, but there was no time and there was no effort and really I shouldn’t be doing that. So one day I decided to find someone and I forgot who connected me with Christine, but, um,

Sevan Matossian (05:35):

Was it Warkin?

Dave Castro (05:36):

I don’t know. Um, and so then eventually she started posting to, she started posting stories or back behind the scenes from the games. And it was really good. And I wanted it from the beginning to be in her voice and to be, um, not like it’s Dave posting. And she did that and she did it well. And that’s what’s happening now too. And it’s funny cuz people are, people think I’m doing some people, not most, not a majority. Some people think that I’m doing it. I’m getting hit up on my, even my other accounts and I saw Dr. Sean Rocket posted saying that Christine is is posting and he made a comment that, uh, he said Dave would be happy if I were, or he’d, I know he wouldn’t mind me saying this and I don’t because we’re very open about it. But, so when I turned it over to her, um, I saw her very first post and then that she did this weekend and then I didn’t see any of the others. And so I haven’t even gone to that account since like last Wednesday or Thursday.

Sevan Matossian (06:34):

Yeah, you haven’t even posted on it. Uh, hold on one second. And that,

Dave Castro (06:37):

That led to, uh, I actually mentioned this in the weekend review. So I think on Friday or Saturday out of the blue, Danielle, uh, Brandon texts me and she said, oh, such a thoughtful post or some shit like that. Thanks, thanks for that. And I was like, what post <laugh>? I had no clue. And uh, and that’s why cuz I’m not looking at it and I’m not approving or viewing. And um, Christine, can you

Sevan Matossian (07:01):

Pull outside? Danielle, Brandon post. Geez Louise guys. Come on. Come on. I got you a link. Come on baby. Come on. Hook me up. Hook me up. Somebody hook me up. Oh, real quick. Hold on, hold on. Uh, cause I wanna ask you a question about Christine. Lucky camera chef. Sorry, I got my own live interview starting in 20 minutes. Thanks for the shout out with Josh Bridges. Absolutely, dude, good luck. Um, Christine is the one sh who just finished writing Brook Wells’s autobiography. Did you know that?

Dave Castro (07:24):

I did know that. And, um, she’s also worked on a few other books for people in the community. I don’t know, I don’t know how public that is. Meaning if she was a ghost writer or actual, she was attributed for her work. So I’m not gonna mention those. I haven’t talked to her about it. I mean, I, I’ve talked to her about it, but I haven’t dug in enough to see if those books were ghost written by her or

Sevan Matossian (07:43):

Also Oh, like if we’re not supposed to say that she wrote it. Yeah, exactly. Oh, okay. Uh, did you notice Danielle, Brandon here? It looks like she has, uh, nipple piercings.

Dave Castro (07:52):

Oh, that’s a really good post

Sevan Matossian (07:54):

<laugh>. Okay. Uh, hey, look at her right arm. Look at that arm. My look at that. Even that guy behind her’s looking at it, he’s like, dang girl. All right.

Dave Castro (08:13):

Lots to look at me. So now I have seen it. That’s the first post I’ve seen from this. That was good. Good job, Christine.

Sevan Matossian (08:18):

I love that shirt orange. Uh, make a note to anyone who wants to stand out. Uh, do bicep. Do you think she does bicep curls? Do you think she does accessory work like that? Who? Danielle. Brandon?

Dave Castro (08:30):

I don’t know. Um, I know like Dan Big into it. Rich big into it. Matt now doing that stuff. Um,

Sevan Matossian (08:39):

I’ve never seen a girl do accessory work that’s curls. Have you?

Dave Castro (08:43):

I haven’t paid close enough attention. Oh,

Sevan Matossian (08:44):

Jesus. Uh, archived a bunch of shit. So

Dave Castro (08:50):

Here’s the question. Just Josh, do this. Does Josh do accessory work? Like bicep curls, bridges your boy?

Sevan Matossian (08:56):

Uh, he claims he’s pure CrossFit. I hope he does <laugh>. I think it’s, i I think it’s important to do it. You don’t have, when’s the last time you did bicep curls?

Dave Castro (09:04):

Probably a year and a half ago. I, I, I said, okay, I’m gonna try doing some curls with the barbell. And I’m like, this is like, I did like five or six success and I’m like, this is fucking stupid <laugh>. And I’m like, I’m gonna go back just to do a CrossFit. Like it’s, I hear you. Look, I’m a skinny guy already. I don’t have big arms. I don’t really care about trying to make my arms big. I care about being, uh, fit, functionally fit. So it’s not, it’s not in, I’m not gonna go through this growth stage to try to get bigger biceps. So it was just felt like a waste of time. It’s not helping me with my performance goals or my life goals. So I did a few reps and literally went, this is stupid and stopped.

Sevan Matossian (09:39):

Um, I did see a picture of you the other day though. You, you’ve shedded some weight and I don’t know if if it, if it’s bicep curls or what, but your arms look way bigger because you’re, you’re leaner. What do you wearing right

Dave Castro (09:50):

Now? I don’t know.

Sevan Matossian (09:51):

You don’t know?

Dave Castro (09:52):

I have not stepped on a scale. So I moved up here in 18, so probably since 17. Late 17. I haven’t stepped on a scale in six years. At least six years. So

Sevan Matossian (10:05):

On purpose, do you own a scale

Dave Castro (10:06):

On very deliberately and very Yes. On purpose? So basically at the time I was, I think I was zoning pretty hard. I was watching my weight and I was stepping on the scale like every day, twice a day, 2, 3, 2 or three times a day, morning, night. And uh, I, I have a really, um, obsessive personality. So when I get into something I go all in and with the scale I was obsessed with it. And so my wife, she said, you’re obsessed with the scale. And I said, no, I’m not. And she’s like, you’re on it three or four times a day. And I’m like, okay, watch this. And I haven’t stepped on one

Sevan Matossian (10:40):

Since. So now you’re obsessing on not being on it. <laugh>. Yeah.

Dave Castro (10:43):

Yeah. That’s awesome. I love that. Uh, except I mean, to be completely honest, like yes, I’ve been to doctor appointments where I’ve had to step on the scale and I fucking look away. I’m like, I’m not gonna look at it. So, and and, and at this stage too, so it’s been so long. Um, I don’t, uh, measure my, obviously I don’t measure my weight, but I can tell when I’m soft or fluffy or by how I look a and how clothes are fitting. And so definitely right now I’m really lean c for me, um, just cuz of the way I’ve been eating and just cuz of, uh, not even cuz of the way I’ve been exercising. It’s, it’s less of the exercise and more for me the, uh, the way I eat. And I’ve been fasting a fuck ton. So that all contributes.

Sevan Matossian (11:25):

I’m gonna ask you about that in a second. Uh, can confirm Super Jack Miranda Alcaraz. And you saw her today, right? She’s already prepping the ranch. The ranch. When

Dave Castro (11:32):

She Yeah, we were hanging out today.

Sevan Matossian (11:34):

Hey, um, why are, what’s, what happened? Uh, all of a sudden like your, you’re full steam ahead on uh, fasting. What, what I mean, and, and you do that, you go full steam ahead on things. Why all of a sudden? Fascinating. And are you still rucking a shit load?

Dave Castro (11:47):

Not rucking as much. Rucking a little. We’ll ramp that up hardcore pretty soon. Uh, it’s interesting cuz I’m the like rucking, I’ve rucked so for so long it’s not hard for me to be good at it again with very little effort. Um, I had just have a really big foundation of, of spending a lot of time, um, under that type of load. The, um, it’s Greg and that era, especially the last few years was really big on the keto scene, the fasting scene, the super low carb scene. And he brought in all these experts and he, he had all these talks and we were putting out a lot of content with him. You were behind that creating the content. And I was like, ah, fuck this. I’m like, like Greg’s, I, Greg’s forcing this. He’s not forcing, but he’s just, it’s all, it’s everywhere. And I’m like, the last thing I want to do is experiment or play with keto and like that. That’s the kind of style I am. Like I, I push against the popular movements I push against, you know? Um, well

Sevan Matossian (12:49):

The same with CrossFit. You had all your friends do CrossFit first before you did it.

Dave Castro (12:52):

Yeah, similar. Uh, same with tattoos. Like in my community, in both communities I’ve ever been in, in the Navy, everyone had tattoos, especially in the line of work we did. Everyone got frog tattoos. Uh, then I get to CrossFit, everybody gets tattoos. And so like, I’m like, that’s the popular thing to do. I’m not gonna do it. That’s one small example. So I’ve never had a tattoo. Um, honestly, smoking fucking weed it growing up here, super popular. All my friends are doing it. Everyone was into drugs and I just saw that and I’m like, Hmm, it’s not for me. I’m not gonna do it just cuz Especially because so many people are doing it to Greg. So he was bringing fasting around, bringing all these experts and I’m like, ah, whatever.

Sevan Matossian (13:33):

And we were all doing it. Everyone who worked through, yeah, all

Dave Castro (13:35):

You guys were doing it. Yeah, it was the talk. It was every talk. Yeah. So I wasn’t interested. I just, I just turned my back from it. Um,

Sevan Matossian (13:41):

Do you remember that thing Nicole did one time? Nicole one time ate one day, fasted one day on and off for 30 days?

Dave Castro (13:49):

Yeah, I do.

Sevan Matossian (13:49):

That was a hell of an experiment.

Dave Castro (13:52):

I’m very close to that right now. Um, I’m not quite, but I, I mean right now I’m, um, every two or three days I’m doing a 24 hour fast. And so I know you do one a week. Yep. I’m about two or three. But anyways, let me back up.

Sevan Matossian (14:06):

I actually do more though, just to be fair. I, I make sure I sleep twice. I fast for a double sleep.

Dave Castro (14:12):

Let’s talk about the hours. What’s, what’s the hours?

Sevan Matossian (14:14):

Uh, 30. Okay. Two to 40. 32 to 40.

Dave Castro (14:18):

I think that when I first really got into it was when Thomas DeLauer asked me to do the ruck the, um, 35 miles with 35 pounds, uh, while

Sevan Matossian (14:29):

Completely, well let’s 50 miles was 50 pounds.

Dave Castro (14:31):

Well, that was the original intent. <laugh>, but I look you got that up. But I was, I even said, Hey man, that, that’s gonna be a, that’s gonna be a tremendous effort. Yeah. Um, 50 pounds for 50 miles. I mean, we could do it, but what I was just, let’s baby step into this. So then I started experimenting a lot with fasting and one of the things that I really, um, enjoyed playing with was working out while fasted and like, especially now completely fine. Like there’s no issue in terms of even short intense stuff for me. Heavier stuff, endurance stuff. And honestly on some of the endurance stuff, it feels more than fine. Um, so just learning and feeling the adaptations for how I adapt to it or how I respond to it. The other piece to this, um, it’s really for me about controlling my insulin and controlling my, um, how much carbs in the system and trying to become fat adapted and being in ketosis fundamentally and what I can do to depart and what it takes to get back in. And so finding this balance of, okay, I can re now I’m figuring out when I’m eating consistently well, super low carb. I can, um, fast for 18 hours and pretty much be at 1.5, uh, ke level. And, and so Vince, I do like some of these adventure races. Well, or, or even sniper competition, uh, team shooting competitions. I generally don’t eat much and try to be in ketosis through those. Um, it’s, it’s helpful to find out where those thresholds are for me.

Sevan Matossian (16:13):

Are you eating a shit load of meat?

Dave Castro (16:15):

Not a shit load. And see, so like even protein, you eating

Sevan Matossian (16:17):

Any carbs are eating bread

Dave Castro (16:18):

At all? No, not bread right now. Uh, even protein, I mean all of that can contribute to a, a nice insulin response. So like, I’m not, I’m not eating a shit ton of meat, but I’m eating a decent amount.

Sevan Matossian (16:28):

You have like a number, like no more than eight ounce

Dave Castro (16:29):

Of I’m not doing numbers right

Sevan Matossian (16:30):

Now. Now, okay. Um, what’s interesting is, it’s funny how well I know you, uh, you’re a breakfast guy,

Dave Castro (16:37):

Big breakfast guy, huge. I love breakfast and it’s that guy.

Sevan Matossian (16:40):

Yeah. And it’s gone. You, you, it’s, there’s no breakfast in your, in your life now.

Dave Castro (16:43):

Right now there’s not except for I’m doing one breakfast a week, so either a Saturday or Sunday I’ll, uh, we’ll do breakfast and, and, uh, pretty much right now. And it’s so easy once you go there and like, it’s, it’s, there’s no issue with this. And even the 24 hour fast, which aren’t a big deal, are not hard at all. They’re, they’re pretty easy to.

Sevan Matossian (17:04):

What about, um, uh, uh, in a few days here, uh, Greg is gonna roll into town. Uh, will you start having these, uh, you’ll start being invited to a lot of dinners. W will you, do you, will you, will you bend? Will you flex? Will you adapt? Or do you stay steadfast to your day?

Dave Castro (17:21):

We had a dinner the other night with Greg

Sevan Matossian (17:24):

And, and you fasted, you didn’t eat?

Dave Castro (17:26):

No, I ate, but Oh.

Sevan Matossian (17:27):

Oh, but what if it, well what if it’s your fasting day? Will, will you? Uh,

Dave Castro (17:29):

I’m not, I’m not super rigid on like, I’m just, it’s, it’s by the wind. Like I’m not, this day’s gonna be at 24. I’m just, I’m just random right now. Okay.

Sevan Matossian (17:38):

But you are disciplined in what you’re putting in your mouth. Yeah. Okay. And, and, and you are disciplined to the fact that you’re gonna get them in. It’s funny, after three years of fasting, you know, one day a week, I’ve become a little more flexible too. Like the, like I knew, uh, Sunday I was going out to dinner with my mom, so I switched it to Saturday. I would’ve never done that in the first two years. No,

Dave Castro (17:55):

No. It’s not like, no fucking

Sevan Matossian (17:56):

Way. Yeah, no fucking way. Okay. Awesome. Well, congratulations. Um, there was a question, uh oh. What, what do you think about your reviews, your weekend reviews? Are you digging them? Are you enjoying that?

Dave Castro (18:09):

Yeah, I mean, what do I think about them? So

Sevan Matossian (18:11):

You personally, like, like at, like, are you having fun doing them?

Dave Castro (18:15):

I’m having fun doing them and it’s exactly the way I’d want to do them. What I mean by that is like, it’s 10 to 15 minutes, some are 20 minutes. I talk about things that went on. I highlight things in CrossFit that are worth highlighting at the moment. Uh, things I might be involved with. I talk about some of the things I’m doing in my personal life, the discipline and the, um, discipline of going on camera on a routine basis like that has been good for me. And so I, um, I enjoy it. I will keep doing it. Um, it’s nice. It’s nice. Here’s the thing, you know this about me. I don’t really like to be, and everyone’s gonna laugh when they hear this, but like, I don’t like to be in front of the camera. I don’t like to go out there, um, on a regular basis. But I’ve also realized through the decades that you don’t do that or you don’t talk and you’re not gonna control the narrative and you’re not gonna own the messaging of your own personal journey or of what you’re trying to support. So part of it is to, Hey, I’m out there, I’m talking, um, I’m letting you know what I wanna let you know. And I, I inter interact via comments. People can ask comments. And um,

Sevan Matossian (19:24):

You weren’t scared doing that opening, opening that up to like, Hey, uh, he’s,

Dave Castro (19:29):

Oh, I’m not doing it live like you

Sevan Matossian (19:30):

Do then I know, but you do it, it doesn’t matter. You still do it. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, like, people are asking questions in the YouTube comments and like, you’re sort of obligated to answer them. I’m guessing.

Dave Castro (19:38):

I don’t answer ’em all. I, I I cherry pick. So, so there’s, even on this post I did yesterday, there’s probably, I think I saw 15 comments or something next week when I do the weekend review, I’ll go through ’em and I’ll just pick a

Sevan Matossian (19:52):

Couple. But it seems like you’re, you’re not avoiding hard questions to me, I guess is what I’m saying. No.

Dave Castro (19:56):

Um, I try not to, but sometimes there’s some I do avoid. Um,

Sevan Matossian (20:04):

So, so, uh, control of your own narrative. Uh, um, stay present. So people, so people see you so they don’t start spinning their own story about whatever you’re doing so that they know

Dave Castro (20:15):

And, and, you know, and be here. And what I mean by that is like available Yeah. Be around. Um,

Sevan Matossian (20:22):

Yeah. Now that I think about it, the fact that you do answer the YouTube questions is huge for it,

Dave Castro (20:26):

I think

Sevan Matossian (20:27):

Because then it’s like you’re serving them instead of serving yourself.

Dave Castro (20:30):

The amount people rallied behind me after I was gone and, and like just h how much, um, support there was for me. I figured, you know, in kind of a, in this return, why not be more available and talk more to a large audience that is supportive of me and, um, had my back. And so

Sevan Matossian (20:53):

That’s even though you were ready to vanish when you got laid off,

Dave Castro (20:55):

Even though I was ready to vanish when I got laid off, yes. Especially it all coincided with the return. I was like, okay, I’m gonna do something different. And this was what I decided to do different. I was definitely not gonna go on a massive podcast tour. You know, I, I hate doing podcasts. Um, so I’m super selective on the ones I do. And so a a and it’s a way to just, again, like 15, 20 minutes. Not an hour, not an hour and a half, just my own little engagement.

Sevan Matossian (21:26):

I like having you on because neither you or I want to hang out before or after. Mm.

Dave Castro (21:31):


Sevan Matossian (21:32):

God bless you. Dave, what

Dave Castro (21:33):

Did you serve me?

Sevan Matossian (21:34):

Uh, it’s a, it’s a little bit of like electrolyte powder with, um, hot water.

Dave Castro (21:39):

Okay. Thank

Sevan Matossian (21:40):

You. Does Dave dye his hair or is he just good looking? Do you have any grays? Dave,

Dave Castro (21:47):

You, you answer that

Sevan Matossian (21:49):

He doesn’t dye his hair. Do you have any, do you have any mm-hmm. <affirmative> grays. I

Dave Castro (21:51):

Got a couple creeping in. Uh, you can’t see him on camera, but I got a couple couple creeping in. That’s

Sevan Matossian (21:56):

Cool. Uh, welcome. Cliff has has the, has, has the reason changed at all or what you plan on, uh, your, your, um, the outcome from that you wish from it changed at all? Morphed, modified. Like, I’ve been doing this podcast for two years and I’m like, oh, I’m starting to get why I’m doing it. Like, I didn’t know why I was doing it in the beginning and like more and every day I’m starting to understand more and more why I’m doing it.

Dave Castro (22:18):

Yeah, I mean even this notion I, we just talked about of just being available, being there, talking, um, talking to the community that’s, I believe been supportive and, um, I think that’s all. Wasn’t thinking of that in the beginning and I am thinking about that now and how I can support efforts and how I can support things we have going on at CrossFit or, or within the community or support, um, at large issues.

Sevan Matossian (22:44):

You ever been in trouble for anything you said on that or had to pull anything down? You ever got get slapped around? You ever had to pull one of these down yet?

Dave Castro (22:50):


Sevan Matossian (22:51):

<laugh>. Good job. Uh, how often, uh, how often do you talk to Don?

Dave Castro (22:58):

So you’re implying that maybe Don would’ve smacked me down? I

Sevan Matossian (23:00):

Dunno, it’s either him or Nicole. I don’t know who, uh,

Dave Castro (23:03):

Nicole’s not watching him. Um, I doubt Don is either. I wa I talked to him on a regular basis. I was on the phone with him an hour ago.

Sevan Matossian (23:11):

Daily. You’re clo you’re close.

Dave Castro (23:12):

Not quite daily, but pretty, pretty close.

Sevan Matossian (23:15):

Uh, seven days a week. Do you talk to, not seven days a week. Do you talk to him seven times a week?

Dave Castro (23:20):

Um, no. That might be a

Sevan Matossian (23:21):

Lot averaging one time a day.

Dave Castro (23:24):

No. Okay.

Sevan Matossian (23:25):

Um, you, uh, I

Dave Castro (23:27):

Have better hair. Anthony tpa.

Sevan Matossian (23:30):

Um, do you wish you talked to Don more or is he available to you? Is he available to

Dave Castro (23:34):

He’s available whenever I reach out. I mean, he’s, I it’s a perfect amount at this point. Okay.

Sevan Matossian (23:39):

He, he’s not, he’s not, he’s not too busy for you? No. Um, you said you’re selective about going on a podcast. You went on Jocko’s podcast mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And, uh, I thoroughly enjoyed that. I thought you did great.

Dave Castro (23:51):


Sevan Matossian (23:52):

Thank you. I thought you, uh, there was a, a term you coin that was the whole pop seal thing. Was that planned?

Dave Castro (23:58):

No, that wasn’t planned. That’s funny. Um, because

Sevan Matossian (24:01):

Afterwards I looked up that word in the urban dictionary. I googled around, I’d never, no one’s ever used that word before. Pop Seal. And I’m like, holy shit, dude.

Dave Castro (24:08):

The essence of it, of what it represents was like, I know

Sevan Matossian (24:12):

What it represents.

Dave Castro (24:12):

I’ve been thinking about it a lot, but that I didn’t pre-plan.

Sevan Matossian (24:16):

I is it, is it, is it derogatory? It’s a little like, Hey, it’s pop music. Anyone can make it. It’s a pop seal. It’s like, it’s like, uh, it’s just what’s popular.

Dave Castro (24:24):

It’s a little, yeah, I think so. But it’s also, it’s not even, I mean, you could argue I’m a, I’m a pop seal at this point. I mean, but, but not for my seriousness. Like, meaning I’m not, I didn’t lean on that and that’s my whole point. Like, I didn’t lean on that to become who I am in this community. Um, I

Sevan Matossian (24:43):

Didn’t, oh, oh shit. There’s a spider on my ceiling. You see that,

Dave Castro (24:48):

That podcast clip you just pull up. Um,

Sevan Matossian (24:53):

If you see that

Dave Castro (24:54):

Was the whole thing in black and white. It

Sevan Matossian (24:55):

Was <laugh>. I Why did they do, why is he doing that here? Will you play the pop seal part? I want to, I want to hear this. Seven seconds. Seven seconds. Thank you.

Dave Castro (25:04):

Um, there’s this like, pop iconic culture now. Pop seals, there’s like these icon seals who are, and you’re one of them <laugh>. I don’t even, wow.

Sevan Matossian (25:14):

Wow, wow.

Dave Castro (25:17):

I didn’t remember saying that part. And you’re one of them. Um, that was,

Sevan Matossian (25:21):

And, and you then you fucking, you uh, uh, tdc, uh, has better, who has better hair? Uh, Savon or I haven’t answered that. Are you?

Dave Castro (25:30):


Sevan Matossian (25:31):

I have fucking pretty amazing hair. Uh, extra sloppy. Uh, Dave, uh, would you rather, uh, do you wanna marry, fuck, kill Greg Dawn and or which one would you do? Mary Fuck kill Greg Don or Rosa <laugh>? Uh, Karina Rain, sorry, to back to the food topic. Uh, I think Davis quite a bit of indigenous blood, therefore consuming based on his cultural background is solid

Dave Castro (25:59):

Consuming. What

Sevan Matossian (26:00):

We’ll get back to Jacque on one second. She’s saying cuz you’re Mexican mm-hmm. <affirmative>, uh, you, you have come from an ancestry, ancestry of indigenous people to the South American continent who are raped by uh, your Europeans that you, uh, should probably stick to what you culturally are supposed to eat in order to stay healthy.

Dave Castro (26:19):

Here. Here’s what I know. I don’t know if it’s cuz I’m Mexican, I don’t know what it’s because of, but I am super sensitive to refine carbohydrates and I am super sensitive to excessive amounts of carbohydrates. What’s that? I mean by sensitive is, yeah, I get puffy. I start rounding out. And so my dad, he was way overweight. He had a stroke, he had type two diabetes. He ended up dying from both. And so he, what I could potentially be if I didn’t have this shit in order. And so, um, I know when I eat a lot of carbohydrates spec specifically we find carbohydrates. I start putting on weight and I, and my um, blood glucose glu glucose levels go fucking really high really quickly. And so, um, that’s what I’m dealing with and that’s how I’m trying to like, part of it’s this health quest and just making sure I stay in a good zone and in a good place with everything and understanding what those foods do to me. And, um, you know, it’s funny, you look at some of the athletes and how they eat and what they promote and like way, way high levels of carbs, super, super, 300 grams of carbohydrates a day. I’m eating like less than 10 grams of carbohydrates a day. And so, not that I’m comparing myself physically against them, they’re different and they’re, they also respond very differently to carbohydrates than someone like myself. And maybe even honestly, you, you probably have a general sense of, um,

Sevan Matossian (27:48):

I respond, uh, I I’m like you, I’m also, cause I’m 51, I can eat if I eat.

Dave Castro (27:53):

But you know, to that point we also know plenty of people. Um, Nicole Carroll might be like this. We know pe plenty of people who can eat a ton of carbs and don’t put on any weight and there’s an absolute genetic piece to all of this. And again, though, I’m not gonna say it’s cuz I’m Mexican, although there are a lot of, um, people who say that plays somewhat into it. But some people are

Sevan Matossian (28:14):

Way more like Polynesian people.

Dave Castro (28:15):

Some people are,

Sevan Matossian (28:16):

They eat a donut and it goes right to their

Dave Castro (28:17):

Gut. Some people are way more sensitive to carbohydrates than others, specifically than the insulin response and then becoming insulin resistant.

Sevan Matossian (28:28):

Yeah. And I also think that just, you don’t live a sedentary lifestyle, right?

Dave Castro (28:34):

No. But I also know I can be super active and super training hard, doing a lot and through the wrong eating protocol, put on weight. Right. Get soft right beef

Sevan Matossian (28:46):

Quickly, quickly,

Dave Castro (28:47):

Quickly, quickly. Yeah. And here, here’s the reality in all this. Here’s, and, and Greg used to talk about this too. Um, a lot of people talk about it, uh, losing weight and is way more about nutrition than it is about fitness. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, both are great compliments and both work hand in hand. But ultimately you can do a lot to your excess body fat or your weight just by making some different food choices.

Sevan Matossian (29:15):

Bottom of the pyramid.

Dave Castro (29:17):

Yeah. Nutrition, bottom of the pyramid.

Sevan Matossian (29:19):

Uh, um, going back to um, uh, jock,

Dave Castro (29:24):

You can’t out train a shitty diet like that line is, is great. Is

Sevan Matossian (29:27):

Gold. Yeah. Uh, Canadian money tank res four 20. Thank you. Um, Savon is easily amazed. There’s gotta be a nicer way to phrase that. Hey, I think if I took down this computer problem would be solved. I’d be looking right at you. Right. Just that one. Yeah.

Dave Castro (29:43):

I don’t think the audience has a, um, an understanding of how poor this interaction

Sevan Matossian (29:48):

Is right now. I think you, you fucked it up pretty good in the beginning with your camera. I appreciate it. Okay. Hey, I will, I will take this computer down and then I can put another camera over there so it’s a wide shot and we’ll be gold.

Dave Castro (29:57):

That’s my view. Hold on. Lemme shut. We’re.

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