Rogue Invitational & Charlotte Classic | Shut Up & Scribble Ep 19

Taylor Self (00:03):

We get a video in here somewhere. Is this it? Show 32nd countdown. Intro, ladies and gentlemen up this.

JR Howell (00:17):

So keep the political commentary to yourself or as someone once said, shut up and scribble.

Taylor Self (00:37):

So before we went live, JR joined the stream and my camera was pointed right here, except I wasn’t wearing pants yet.

JR Howell (00:47):

I was looking really hard for it.

Taylor Self (00:56):

Good afternoon brother. What’s up?

JR Howell (00:59):

What’s up? You were saying something about larger egos

Taylor Self (01:03):

And small

JR Howell (01:06):

No, they

Taylor Self (01:06):

Go hand in hand. This is not the same. Oh yeah, it’s a different What was Austin’s last name?

JR Howell (01:15):


Taylor Self (01:17):

No, the guy who won Crucible. Austin Hatfield. Hatfield. Sorry. Hartman looks really similar to that. So I saw

JR Howell (01:26):

We were talking about OG CrossFitters, that’s why Austin Stack came to mind.

Taylor Self (01:31):

Yeah, we were talking about OG CrossFitters and OG CrossFitter who I sent a bit of a tactical nuke of a comment at,

JR Howell (01:41):

You know, sounds like just an average Thursday for you.

Taylor Self (01:44):

Probably unnecessarily. Okay, stop that. I don’t go as hard as some of our friend group does, but sometimes,

JR Howell (01:51):

Sometimes the paint paint gets chopped up.

Taylor Self (01:54):

I chop the pan up a little bit. Next. How are you feeling after last week

JR Howell (02:00):

Is next Thursday? I feel like I got hit by a truck still.

Taylor Self (02:04):

Really? Have you

JR Howell (02:04):

Worked out the inevitable reality of two human beings that rely on me a lot still to survive hit me at about six 30 Monday morning and I realized that I still have to take care of them. I wish I could have just laid on the couch all day and slept and responded to dms and reposted stuff, but alas, I took the kids to school, took one of the kids to the gym, started try to put the pieces back together. But yeah, I’ve been sleepwalking all week. It’s been tough to, I’ve worked out every day, but I’m slowly starting to sleep longer and longer each night. I’m just coming down from the intense anxiety, focus, whatever. So

Taylor Self (02:49):

Nice. I set the tone Monday by absolutely clapping my butt cheeks and I was probably the most sore I’ve in a year. Yesterday and Tuesday.

JR Howell (03:02):

What was the workout? Give it to us.

Taylor Self (03:04):

I just did a pretty nothing crazy wall ball, biker workout, 35 cal biker, 50 wall ball, 35 cal biker, 50 wall ball, 35 cal biker, just like a little chipper. And then I did our class workout, which was two rounds of 50 gds, 50 body weight deadlifts. Then I rested about one to one and then at the 15 minute mark I did DT piece. That’s like 95 pounder, five rounds, 24 deadlift,

JR Howell (03:34):


Taylor Self (03:35):

Hour clean, yeah, 12 shoulder overhead and some lifting and stuff and accessory in there. My quads and hamstrings were just annihilated quads I think from that wall ball and then going really hard on that 50 50 piece

JR Howell (03:50):

And then

Taylor Self (03:51):

I it’s quite the stand up.

JR Howell (03:54):

What was the first work out of those three again?

Taylor Self (03:56):

35 cal biker, 50 wall ball, 35 cal biker, 50 wall ball, 35 cal biker

JR Howell (04:05):

For the audience. Taylor knows that that is not delineated as a chipper. He knows that. Okay, he said chipper, it’s not really what he meant.

Taylor Self (04:13):


JR Howell (04:13):

He knows that when you come back to a movement, it’s technically not a chipper. Okay, guys. Chill.

Taylor Self (04:19):

Where’s that in the dictionary though? That’s what I find when we’re talking about workout formats, especially like a couplet, A triplett. A chipper. You could call a triplett, a chipper, mini chipper like

JR Howell (04:30):

Jackie. Is Jackie a triplett or is it a chipper? I consider it a mini chipper, but

Taylor Self (04:35):

It’s three moves but it’s both. I think that’s such a weird thing where I consider

JR Howell (04:41):

We need James on here for this topic. We just need to get into the minor nuances and some may say semantics of programming.

Taylor Self (04:50):

Yeah. Do you think they’ve ever gone into the weeds like this, debated this?

JR Howell (04:53):

I don’t know, but I bet James would like to come on and talk about stuff like that because to me when you say, and I say it all the time, if something is a up and back chipper, it’s not a chipper. A chipper by definition to me means you do a movement and then you don’t come back to it again.

Taylor Self (05:08):

Okay. Fuck nuts. What would you call your first workout of 2020?

JR Howell (05:11):

So then what do you call it exactly? A chipper. I would still call it an up and back shipper or like a pyramid chipper or whatever. Pyramid

Taylor Self (05:18):

Chipper. Yeah,

JR Howell (05:19):

But it’s a cool conversation to have because I think a lot of people especially who are new in CrossFit and are really want to get the methodology, they want to be able to refer to workouts by that. They want to be able to say this is a classic couplet or this is a interval triplet or whatever. It’s just cool to give reads on stuff like

Taylor Self (05:45):

That. You’ve been doing any of Ben Smith’s workouts?

JR Howell (05:47):

I have not, but I’ve actually saved several of them. I’ve been really impressed with his programming. I

Taylor Self (05:52):

Did that

JR Howell (05:53):

Creativity standpoint and I really like to see the high level of difficulty is that I think people need to look at programmers in their gym. Like Ben, we know people doing his classes are like he and probably Laura and Emily be Roth and Matthias Porter people who have been kind of there. Does he

Taylor Self (06:13):

Go there?

JR Howell (06:14):

I think he was training there for a while, but that’s really cool. You program for people that are going to be challenged that have won the CrossFit games like he and Laura and other people just scale down from that, which I think is really good.

Taylor Self (06:26):

I did that power clean dumbbell bench double under workout and I’m like, I’m going to do it at 2 0 5, 180 5 is low as unnecessary. I didn’t need to, I mean it was still a great workout and I don’t think it was that much slower. I just probably could have done touch and go at 180 5 maybe even would’ve been a good idea, but I did not at 2 0 5,

JR Howell (06:51):


Taylor Self (06:52):

Is first off, I don’t believe that to the degree that they expressed it at all that he does 85% of what’s posted if he does, if that’s true.

JR Howell (07:07):

Who are you talking about? Jeff? Jeff

Taylor Self (07:08):


JR Howell (07:09):


Taylor Self (07:09):

Yeah. Someone, are

JR Howell (07:11):

You having a conversation in your head that we didn’t know about? Yeah,

Taylor Self (07:13):

Nicole Christensen. Sorry, I was just up. Nicole Christensen goes up there, spends a couple of days and goes, Jeff Adler does 85% workouts. He does three on one off. He does the zone diet. I believe he does three on one off. I don’t believe for one second that he does 85% of what’s posted because if he does then he’s repeating a workout every three, four weeks even, which at his level is wildly unnecessary, maybe even detrimental.

JR Howell (07:47):

I believe him. I think we should have his coach on his girlfriend.

Taylor Self (07:53):

I would love to because I don’t think Jeff said that and I don’t think his coach said that. I think that I

JR Howell (07:56):

Just know that we talked to her last year. God, it’s crazy. It’s been a year since we talked to her at Rogue and she was just awesome to talk to and she really knows her stuff programming wise I would think would love to get as deep into the weeds as we wanted to as far as that kind of stuff goes. As much as I’ve enjoyed Ben’s programming, the one thing that I wish he would do, and I wonder if it was something he thought about doing because not anything Mainside ever does is to put target times on stuff. Let’s just say he’s tested all the workouts he’s put out for main site and that dumbbell bench workout that he put out. If you would just put at the bottom stimulus here should be sub 12 or whatever and then maybe deep into the comments I haven’t looked at read down on the emails that I get every day on stuff like that. Yeah, I

Taylor Self (08:46):

Don’t either,

JR Howell (08:47):

But some people will just see it and be like, oh, Ben Smith wrote it. I can do this rx, I’m going to do it. It’s going to be a grinder. It’s not supposed to be a grinder. It’s supposed to have a certain stimulus and you should be shooting for a target time of 10 to 12 minutes or something like that. I wonder what main site has never really done that. They’ve put intended stimulus before, but I mean with specific time domains, do you remember seeing that often?

Taylor Self (09:13):

I know when they do little video blurbs, they talk about that a little bit. I find the time domains extremely helpful for our class goers. I give it to SMTP. I think it’s a huge, that’s by and large how you can adjust a task priority workout to your capability and your capacity is the intended time domain.

JR Howell (09:39):

If I give my

Taylor Self (09:40):

Mom fucking Rx

JR Howell (09:41):

Fran, it’s going to

Taylor Self (09:42):

Take her 30 minutes to do it, but that’s not the intent of Fran, but just saying 21 15 9 thrusters close. I don’t know.

Will Branstetter (09:50):

I think that’s been the biggest thing that I’ve changed since going to CrossFit Charlotte is ever since I became strong enough to do RX workouts, I would just do RX because I could lift the weight, but I didn’t ever scale. I hardly ever scaled in probably a year and a half before coming across to Charlotte before then. I’m like, okay, intensity and what is this actually trying to do for the first time, given the way that Taylor and Andy instruct the coaches to instruct and also write the workouts like, okay, that makes more sense. If I’m trying to hit this, then I know, okay, on this dumbbell workout I should use 30 fives instead of fifties, even though in the past it’s like fifties aren’t crazy, but they’ll stop me in the tracks if it’s a lot of volume and it just ends up taking forever. I think that’s the biggest thing I’ve trained recently. To that note,

JR Howell (10:43):

One of the other things I like that Ben has done is he’s given options for rest day and not just made it a blanket

Taylor Self (10:50):

State, like rest

JR Howell (10:51):

Day has to be a rest day and some people may not like that because they may think it encourages people who probably need a day to do more because the option is there today, I think it was handstand walk, L pull-ups and maybe running, which is not a workout and if you look at the format of that workout, it’s not going to be a ton of volume. You add I think 25 feet to the handstand walk every round. It’s 15 minutes, but for a lot of people, just a dedicated skill day like that strict upper body pulling day would be great and it’s not going to beat them up and unless they’re super sore from something else they’ve done earlier in the week, stuff like that could be a really viable option for people who maybe just want to move and practice some skills but think that because they’ve trained hard for three days, they need to take a day off. What do you think about that?

Taylor Self (11:38):

I think they have to decide what they want to do a program for anyone anywhere that can work out and they can go and look at the and get an amazing workout or the example and the dictionary definition of the CrossFit methodology of it’s going to be three on one off. It’s going to be one piece a day, prioritizing intensity over volume, always prioritizing minimum effective dose, et cetera, et cetera. It’s like half the time I’m looking I’m like, are they really expecting people to fucking join arms and actually get behind this workout and do it and have fun? I don’t think anyone wants to do that workout or nor are they going to or is this just the example of hey, this is what cross it methodology is. Do you get what I’m saying?

JR Howell (12:40):


Taylor Self (12:41):

I do. I don’t know if I feel like with bringing these guest programmers in, they are for sure going the route of we want more people consuming these workouts, doing them rather than just looking at it and saying, this is the methodology because I’m sorry I’m not doing five by five fucking deadlift every two weeks.

JR Howell (12:58):

I’m not going to lie. Knowing that Dave wrote ’em, knowing that Boz wrote ’em, knowing that Ben has written them has made me pay attention to them a lot more for sure and I look at it every single day, but just seeing the workout and thinking to myself, oh yeah, if I saw that workout, I could tell that would be a Boz workout. And likewise some of the ones you see and you’re like, ah, that just looks programming of old, it just looks like the same type thing. So far Ben’s workouts have been very much so unique to his style, which I think has been really cool.

Taylor Self (13:30):

I also, part of me cringes when people call that three day on period a cycle, do you know what I mean? When they’re like, well, for this three day cycle, I don’t know, I’m just like, ooh, I guess it’s a microcycle, but it’s just so, I don’t know. I feel like there’s too many options in terms of movement selection and modality selection to really look at a three day period and program three day periods individually. Do you know what I mean? I feel like I have to look at a bigger picture to really have good variance. Me and Andy programmed for the gym today. I enjoy doing that. We’re going to do an episode where me and JR go, someone asked for this where we Yeah,

JR Howell (14:13):

We’re going to do it. Yeah, we’re going to do it.

Taylor Self (14:14):

One episode, part one will be JR programming for his affiliate and me being the assistant coach, and then part two will be me programming for my affiliate and him being the assistant coach, just showing the process of how we go from nothing to something, which I think will be really cool and people will enjoy that. But today we’re going to talk about some of the Charlotte Classic workouts, some about Rogue. I dunno if you have anything to pull up. Will, do you have any graphics or is that going to take you a second?

JR Howell (14:51):

Let’s at least pull up the workouts that Charlotte Classic has released and let’s talk about those because I want to get into a little bit of the inspiration. Not so much from the book per se, but your creative process when you sit down to write a competition, do you have these workouts that you know are just like, this is firm, I’m not going to change it. The rest of the program needs to just be built around these couple workouts or do you really like to just have all six in the ability to tweak ’em all together? Where do you start?

Taylor Self (15:28):

It depends. I don’t think I’m sold on one or the other. I think this year the first workout that I came up with was the interval workout that’s been announced and there were a lot of several iterations to it. First iteration for Elite was the same format as Rx, where it was two rounds of eight bar muscle ups and five sandbag burpee get overs. But I know with the implement that they’re using, I did it with jerk blocks, which is harder than what they’re going to use. You have to plant a foot on top of the jerk block, you have to plant the bag on top of the jerk block, then push it over. It’s not just like a roll it over, whatever et cetera than get over.


And my time domains were pretty tight on the first two intervals to where I knew probably more than half of the elite field would not have any time on the first two intervals on the jerk blocks. Maybe they’d have a short timeframe on the implement that we’re going to use, but then I was just really in my head trying to figure out how to get that time down a little bit so that those first two intervals were still meaningful for the athletes that were going to win the workout. And I think going 13 and 13 was appropriate, just less transition time. You know what I mean? You don’t have those same five to 10 seconds each round of walking from the block to the pull up bar block to pull up bar, et cetera, or to the biker. Then so that workout came first and that came not this one the

Will Branstetter (17:04):

Yeah, I’m about to commit a crime trying to make this computer work for this.

Taylor Self (17:09):

Oh, what’s that? What do you mean commit a crime?

Will Branstetter (17:12):

Oh, you know what that means? Get out a knife, commit a crime on myself.

Taylor Self (17:17):


JR Howell (17:19):

Something I know you were really firm about though was the time domain interval scheme. You were very hard about that. That was really important to you and why were those numbers important?

Taylor Self (17:31):

Well, that number was important to me because it came from the book, but also it was an interval that once I did it was 2, 2, 3 intervals is painful. I felt like this interval was a little more painful and I’m very partial to workouts that stress the psychological tolerance of athletes in terms of how hard you want to push and how much you’re willing to really go for it. I really like that. I think it’s something that people have never done before. A lot of people have never done anything like this where you add you have such a long interval with short rest in a competition and then you finish with a five minute interval is like there’s a lot of time there to see who’s really going to push

JR Howell (18:17):

Hard and I know when I tested it, I was in the gym by myself, but I had your scores and as a competitor you’re going to be out there with five or six or seven other lanes. Everyone’s finishing two minutes on the bike and just looking around. I have no clue where anyone is, so you have no choice but the light truly empty it

Taylor Self (18:38):

And I think for my competition I rely less on spectator experience, and this is not to say that you don’t rely more on athlete experience, but I care more about the feel of the workout more so than I do about okay, are all the spectators going to be able to see who’s in first place in this workout, et cetera. So that was the one I came up with first. I think in years past there have been workouts that I’ve been really, really set on and building around it. This year I knew that I wanted this workout and an offsite workout and then I knew that I wanted a handful of movements that I programmed another workouts and aside from that, it was kind of like a blank slate. I knew I wanted what is in our finale, which hasn’t been announced. I knew I wanted L sits and that came from a workout that me and you talked about a long time ago that 62nd lsit 30 snatch or was it 15 power snatch 15?

JR Howell (19:44):

That sounds right. Yeah, it was

Taylor Self (19:46):

Like clean, I can’t remember unbroken designation

JR Howell (19:50):


Taylor Self (19:50):

With the bike.

JR Howell (19:51):

Even earlier though when we were talking about semifinals in the games, you and I were both pretty firm that we thought the elit was going to return and we were kind of wondering based on the things that Baz had said about thinking there’s going to be some things in the workout that some people really want to do and some people really don’t want to do. And it was like what if they did something where it was like you had a buy-in of an L sit into a max lift and it would be like, hey, the really strong people that don’t have that midline integrity just aren’t going to be able to keep lifting and we were trying to come up with, obviously it ended up being the max snatch into the basically max effort run and that being something that a lot of people probably don’t want to do after they snatch heavy,

Taylor Self (20:37):


JR Howell (20:38):

Yeah, I’m so glad you put the lsit in. I think it’s really cool. You would see it back in the day, maybe 2011, 12 or 13, but it would usually be part of some floater or some skills thing, but the fact that you’re putting it in a workout and putting it in a workout that’s really creative and is not going to decide who does well is really cool.

Taylor Self (20:59):

Yeah, I think it’s going to highlight who is good at them and who has really good static strength in that trunk flexion position. So I wanted those and then I wanted ring dips on the high rings. I wanted to put ring dips in a competition for a couple years and I just couldn’t figure out what I was comfortable with standards wise because I knew there was not a real way for me to replicate that regional standard with the red strap and then semifinals posted at the complex and I was like, ah, fuck it. I’ll just put ’em on the high rings and make sure that their top of their shoulder touches the ring at the bottom and then at the top they reach full extension of the elbow obviously.

JR Howell (21:38):

Yeah, and I think is there something about the hip has to move up and down or is that the hip can’t come above the bottom of the ring? There was some standard about the hip position. I don’t know if it was that it had to move vertically

Taylor Self (21:53):

In or line shoulder,

JR Howell (21:54):

Right. But either way, I mean it seemed to work out great. So yeah, I don’t think the standard’s going to be an issue here.

Taylor Self (21:58):

No. So this worked out. I knew I had the bones, the structure of this one for a while and I was kind of just on the fence about what order of the squats, what weight on the squats, and then had hunter test it and she did it really fast at a particular weight, so I made it a little bit heavier and I think it’ll still be a relatively fast workout.

JR Howell (22:22):

Are all these bars going to be from the floor and are they going to be stripping weight or are they going

Taylor Self (22:25):

To be bars? No, no, no. It’ll be three different barbells from the floor and it’ll be laid out. If you can see the gym back here, they’ll start all the way towards the back where those gds are and they’ll do 15 back squats and they’ll come forward and their parallettes will be in the middle and they’ll do their 62nd L set and they’ll come forward, they’ll do their 15 front squats, they’ll come forward to the rings that she’s on, they’ll do the 30 ring dips and they’ll finish just beyond the rings and do their 15 overhead squats and that’ll be cool.

JR Howell (22:55):

Yeah, I think it’s going to be a great finish. There’ll be some good races and then there’s going to be some people that are just way behind and I think a lot of it’s going to be because of the gymnastics movements, which is why I think it’s such a cool blend because everyone wants to play with the weight and throw it around, but not everybody can stay up on the rings for one or two sets and every time you come off that’s just another muscle up you have to do.

Taylor Self (23:18):

Yeah, I think, oh wow, Dal and Pepper liked this workout. I think more than anything those weights, it’s going to be who is strong enough to go on broken while still being able to finish the L and two three at most for the winners and then the ring dips, I think you’re going to need to finish ’em in two sets and then go and broker on the last set of overhead squats. But I think it’s a cool workout as well.

JR Howell (23:45):

What’s your standard for the lsit?

Taylor Self (23:47):

They’re going to have their heels over an elevated target and aside from their heels, can’t touch the target and they have to stay over the target. That’s the only standard and obviously they cannot rest. They can’t squeeze the parallettes so tight that they’re basically sitting on their hands for support, you know what I mean?

JR Howell (24:02):


Taylor Self (24:04):

So your wrist can’t touch your legs, but there’s no knee bend standard aside from your feet. Have to stay over the para of legs.

JR Howell (24:13):

Sure, yeah. The less is more type thing when it comes to the standards on that. Cool. What else has come out

Taylor Self (24:23):

Then? The sixth workout,

JR Howell (24:33):

And I would say, you can correct me if I’m wrong, but the intervals, the offsite and this, so these are the three. If you’re fit enough, especially on something like this, if you have enough upper body pulling stamina and pushing stamina are going to hurt really, really bad. Like those three and then the rest of ’em probably limited by something else. I mean you did this one, you told me about it when you did it and I was like, dude, that is awful.

Taylor Self (25:01):

It was too much. I had to shorten it.

JR Howell (25:03):

I remember switching back and forth between chest to bar and toast. I don’t know if I’ve ever seen that before. What made you want to do that in this workout?

Taylor Self (25:17):

I wanted more trunk flexion else. It’s just not enough. I didn’t want to do S this year and I also needed some upper body pulling in addition to the bar muscle up. I mean the bar muscle up I just feel is so not necessarily pure upper body pulling. It’s a lot of press too


And I just thought it was a cool concept. I was like, ah, I played back and forth between Chester bar and a thruster here. RX got the thruster version because the elite has some more squatting elsewhere that RX doesn’t have. Yeah, I’ve seen this format in other places, so it’s not like I’m the first one to coin it, but I just like the fact of going back and forth and I think starting and finishing with a toaster bar is a little bit easier than starting and finishing with a Chesta bar. In my opinion. I think you’re more likely to get right to bar and go. It’s not as much of a high heart rate. You can keep your heart rate lower on a toaster bar in my opinion. Whereas if you jump up for 22 chest to bar your heart rate’s going to spike.

JR Howell (26:25):

Yeah, dude, I would say it’s almost two to one. It’s close cycle rate. If you get up and do 30 chest to bar at a 30 to bar, it’s going to be close to two to one.

Taylor Self (26:33):

Yeah, speed

JR Howell (26:34):


Taylor Self (26:35):

And I just think the chest to bar really blow you up heart rate wise, whereas the toes to bar, if I’m fucking hurting, there’s not a point to where there’s not a level of hurt for me that is so bad that I can’t jump up and do a couple toes to bar, but if I’m hurting that bad, I’m going to wait longer to jump up for the chest to bar. So I wanted to finish on the toast to bar to give athletes something they could get right to and race a bit more on. And then some heavy barbell, heavy moderate barbell overhead. And I think 55 reps is pretty substantial there with the 1 65 bar. It’s good and it just really, it will come down to gymnastics capacity and how good you are on a barbell, but also that’s a substantial amount of rowing. And if you’re a bad rower or if you’re bad on machines or if you have bad general metabolic conditioning, you’re not going to do well in this workout at all.

JR Howell (27:29):

And this is one that I look at and the time domain is tough to figure out until you do it because some people it’s going to hit ’em on round three. Some people are going to be able to hold on and they’re going to be like, Hey, how hard I can row is going to be, what determines my time on this? What do you think good times are going to be here?

Taylor Self (27:54):

I don’t think how hard you can row that’s not the entire workout, at least not how I felt it.

JR Howell (28:01):

No, I mean on the last round or two, are you going to be able to actually maintain your rope pace or is it just going to become a recovery for some people?

Taylor Self (28:10):

No, for a lot of people in this field for sure going to be become a recovery, but the best should be pulling probably pretty consistent the entire time. I don’t think it’s going to get to a point to where that last round is like a wicked hard push. I think the people who pace this work out the best are going to be hurting to their capacity, trying to hold what they opened up with on the rower. And that probably for the best guys is I would be shocked if it’s over 1400 for all five rounds.

JR Howell (28:38):

That’s kind of what I was thinking. Yeah. So do you think holding average,

Taylor Self (28:45):

Holding a three

JR Howell (28:45):

Minute round would average of three minute rounds is going to be a pretty good score? That’s kind of what I was

Taylor Self (28:49):

Thinking. I think that’ll be a very good score.

JR Howell (28:52):

Yeah. Yeah, that makes sense too. And I think you can do that even with a strategic break

Taylor Self (28:59):


JR Howell (28:59):

The toast to Bar Chester bar and just being able to do the 11 unbroken every time. It’s cool. I think there’s a lot of volume here, but I think there’s a lot of area for people to separate. I think there’s going to be a lot of people that come out way too hot as usual, and then there are going to be some people that kind of slow play it a little bit and they know that breaking early might be the way to go and then on that last round, if they can hold on from broken, that’s the play. So I’m excited to see it.

Taylor Self (29:27):

Yeah, I think this, it’s funny that you mentioned the offsite, the interval and this workout as the ones that’ll hurt the most. I also believe those three workouts are the most likely places where people are going to go out hot and the most likely places where if you do that, you’re fucked, absolutely blasted. If you go out hot on those three workouts,

Will Branstetter (29:51):

Why didn’t you want to do GHGs?

Taylor Self (29:53):

I just have done them two years in a row and we just got.

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