Rogue Day 2 | Official Preview show | Individual Event 2

Sevan Matossian (00:02):

Messing up, bam. We’re live. For those of you who don’t know my Caleb, hi. Thank you buddy for running the backend. Caleb Beaver, the guy who does the vast majority of shows with me on the S on podcast, is running the backend and he is actually at the Rogue Invitational, so that’s cool. We’ll be able to get some cool insights from him. Also, I want to just share something with you guys who don’t know my background. I worked at CrossFit Inc. I was the second person ever to work during the media department when I worked there. There were only eight employees there. I worked there for a long time. There was no one with closer proximity to Greg Glassman in the entire history of the company than me. I worked directly with him. I was an executive there when I started. There were 300 gyms when I was fired. There were maybe, I don’t know, 15,000 or 13,000 gyms. My job was to be in charge of everything that was forward facing. I hear someone’s tv, I’m not sure whose that is. It’s

Chase Ingraham (01:01):


Sevan Matossian (01:01):

I was in charge of everything forward facing that the world saw, and one of the things that Greg would share with us weekly I heard it, is there’s this department, it’s called the training department and is at CrossFit Inc. And those of us who work there affectionately refer to them as red shirts more than affectionate. It is a huge honor to wear a red shirt. And so even when we would go to the training summits, someone like me wouldn’t even be allowed to have a red shirt. So I couldn’t be like, oh, I’m at the summit. Could I have one? It would be like, no. They were very limited. Only certain people got them and there were ranks to it and it was taken very serious as you might imagine, because Greg had put his blood, sweat and tears into this level one program and then it was being run by one of the most professional human beings you’ll ever meet on Planet Earth.


A former SEAL team six operative Dave Castro, and the whole company was kind of imbued with high level military guys, whether they were rangers, Delta Force Seals, it was a pretty wild place to work. swat, team, la, SWAT Team, Chicago, SWAT team, all those guys, right? A lot of ex-professional athletes, people who were dedicated to movement, fitness, health and their existence. So in that time there was this thing called the level one and the way Greg would’ve refer to the level one would be like, this is where the CrossFit kernel and DNA exists, and this is where the culture is disseminated. This is where the culture is disseminated, and those of us who have been doing CrossFit for a long time, take the culture for granted. Don’t forget, I love a global gym, but the culture is completely different When you walk into a CrossFit gym, the trainers there have gotten the culture disseminated to them from the level one team.


What is that culture? That culture is just complete and utter support. Support with how you eat, how you move, finishing the workouts, scaling the workouts, helping you move after going to your wedding, watching your kids, helping you load your dog into your car. And that’s why they refer to us as a cult because we’re just fucking civilized people. But this culture is disseminated in the level one and those 200 trainers or 170 trainers around the world that Nicole and Dave, they say Nicole’s in charge of brand. Now, I don’t fucking believe that these 170 trainers that are ruled by Dave and Nicole understand that culture. If you don’t understand the culture, you

Taylor Self (03:27):


Sevan Matossian (03:28):

Not understand CrossFit. How many level ones have I been to a hundred When I worked at CrossFit, we went to the level one because it was fun. If there was a level one and you worked for CrossFit, you went to it. You just went and hung out. If you work at CrossFit Inc and you have not been to 10 level ones, you do not know CrossFit. That’s just baseline. You do not know it. You shouldn’t be allowed to call yourself an employee yet. You’re just a fledgling.

Taylor Self (04:04):

You have to.

Sevan Matossian (04:07):

Good morning, mom. Hi.

Taylor Self (04:08):

Oh shit, I got to behave. You know what’s crazy? I

Sevan Matossian (04:12):


Taylor Self (04:12):


Sevan Matossian (04:13):

Sorry, Taylor, hold that thought. You have

Taylor Self (04:15):


Sevan Matossian (04:15):

Go to 10 level ones. I don’t even care if you pass the test. The test is irrelevant. You have to go there, hang out, meet the people, get the culture. I’m going to have Greg, next time I have Greg on, I’ll ask him about it. But what’s making me realize that is this whole thing with poor Jade. Koons got ass pounded a little bit and I feel bad for him, but he was set up to fail and there’s time for him to maybe reconcile this, but he’s got to attend 10 level ones. Everyone on that executive team should go to 20. You should be excited when one comes to your town and you should go visit it. You should hang out there, bring a sandwich, sit in the back. It is where the culture is disseminated and it is a very, very special culture that so much of us, I’m sure JR is one of ’em, and Taylor’s one of ’em who goes into the gym.


The affiliate every day takes for granted and it’s why we joke around thinking we’re a cult, but it’s not that we’re a cult except we’re taught to be civilized human beings to support the guy working out to you either right or left. To your left of me is John Young Barbell, JY barbell. If you want to get strong, look John up. He’s a great resource, a gentleman and a man of high values. Taylor Self committed to the self-made training program to provide workouts for anyone who wants to just get better and one of the best programmers in the business below me and then off who won’t smile much is wearing the Be Friendly shirt, is JR Howell owner of CrossFit Crash. Arguably the best gym on the east coast of the United States of America in terms of the coaching. But not only that, a beautiful facility and a great place and home of the great Jason Hopper and then Chase Ingram who has been around God maybe as long as me. He has held every position at CrossFit and has worked his way into being a commentator and on the affiliate team and a great ambassador to all things CrossFit. Taylor. Hi, welcome to the show.

Taylor Self (06:11):

What’s up?

Sevan Matossian (06:11):

Are you going to say something?

Taylor Self (06:13):

Well, you said we take it for granted. I don’t take it for granted.

Sevan Matossian (06:15):

Okay, good.

Taylor Self (06:17):

Every day we work, it’s a huge rule at our gym. If when you finish the workout, if everybody’s not done, you stay, you hang around and cheer until everybody’s done, then you clean up. And that happened today. This guy we had this workout was five rounds of 21 Suma of high pull and nine burpee box jumps, 75 for guys, 55 for ladies. And this one guy, he looks so fit mid forties, middle aged, probably chase his age. He looks

Sevan Matossian (06:40):

Like me.

Taylor Self (06:40):

Yeah, but he always just takes forever. He’s always lasting. So Todd’s like five minutes after everybody else is done, five minutes later Todd’s still gone. We’re all in a circle just like let’s fucking go. That’s the culture and I don’t think Jay de Koons will get it no matter how many level ones he

Sevan Matossian (06:56):

Goes to. I do, I do. I think he’s 10 away. I think he’s 10 away. I think he can get it,

Taylor Self (07:01):

But you got it before you went and then took to your 10 level ones. You did CrossFit, you took a class. You

Sevan Matossian (07:08):

Did. I didn’t get the culture.

Taylor Self (07:10):

Yeah, but you were like

Sevan Matossian (07:11):

Didn’t the culture,

Taylor Self (07:11):

But what do you mean that experience of your first class and you drinking the Kool-Aid? That’s the culture.

Sevan Matossian (07:19):

I just did it off the website for free for over. That’s what I did. I used to just go to the website and do it for free and then I started going, I went to my first level ones and I had my head blown and I was scared shitless when I went to my first level one scared to death, but then I started going to them and just hanging out at them and filming them and talking to people and I would just go and hang out and boy did I learn so much from the L one trainers. Listen also, if you work there and you see a red shirt, you should say hi to ’em the same way. You should say hi to a cop. You should always interact with every trainer. They are the engine of your company. It’s been a while since I’ve gone off on one of these, but it’s so important. It’s so important. This is a very special thing we have on planet Earth, this CrossFit thing

Taylor Self (07:58):

Around us. I just don’t think you can tie J de Koon’s arm off, put some Kool-Aid in that fucking syringe and inject it and it his arm. I think you have to drink it and decide that you like it.

Sevan Matossian (08:05):

Yeah, well, right. Well, he could go to 10 L ones and fucking hate it. This is dangerous, but the only people I’ve ever met who don’t like L one is they’re just like, yeah, I know you’re an asshole in real life. You don’t like chocolate cake, you don’t like puppy dogs and you don’t like kids. You have blue hair in a fucking nose piercing and you sit down at a trendy brewery and talk about how you hate kids.

Taylor Self (08:31):

Okay, I don’t want to dig myself into a hole, but where’s he coming from?

Sevan Matossian (08:35):

You’re given a good job to start. I’ll tell you that. Hey, I’m okay with the pushback. It’s what makes you,

Taylor Self (08:40):

He’s doing a good job to start.

Sevan Matossian (08:43):

Just give him a fucking chance. We will. We will, but got to do, but he’s got to do as the CEO O, I’m telling him he has to go to 10 level one, disagree with that and he better go do ’em soon.

Taylor Self (08:54):

I’ll say this. No, no, no

Chase Ingraham (08:56):

Talking for five seconds. Don’t say he’ll never get it. I’m not saying he will get it a hundred percent like savanna’s saying, but nobody will because nobody was there from the beginning, including three people on this, including myself, but give him a chance that’s touched

Sevan Matossian (09:12):

His heart. I saw his eyes wander.

Chase Ingraham (09:16):

Don’t say he’ll never get it.

Taylor Self (09:17):

That’s not what I’m saying. I said you

Chase Ingraham (09:19):

Did say that

Sevan Matossian (09:20):

When the first

Taylor Self (09:22):

Respond with did I?

Chase Ingraham (09:24):


Taylor Self (09:24):

I changed my mind.

Chase Ingraham (09:26):

Okay, I don’t want to hear. That’s fine. But you can have opinions, but don’t say statements. Matter of fact, and this is how it’s going to be. We don’t know. I don’t know either. I’m going to give Jay a chance. I’ve got to meet him. He doesn’t know what he’s walking into. He just knows he wants to be here to do some great things and yeah, he needs to go to a level one and he needs to go to 10 50 every opportunity yet. He’s been to summits already. He’s coming to mine. Just give him a chance. That’s all I’m saying.

Sevan Matossian (09:55):

Chelsea in the CEO shirt just completed my second L one this past weekend. I didn’t think there were going to be very many people showed up and there were 31 attending. Even a first timer never done CrossFit before. Yeah, I mean dude, it’s the shit. It’s the shit. Okay, listen,

JR Howell (10:12):

John Young.

Taylor Self (10:14):


JR Howell (10:15):

John, young John,

Taylor Self (10:17):

It’s a little loud. Was loud. That was loud for real. Came in hot. That

Sevan Matossian (10:23):

Was hot. I

JR Howell (10:25):

Wanted to ask him something while we’re on

Chase Ingraham (10:26):

This topic, but it doesn’t look like he’s

JR Howell (10:29):

John’s frozen.

Taylor Self (10:30):

We’re going to try to fix this real quick.

Sevan Matossian (10:31):

Go ahead, kick John off for a second. I’ll wait.

Chase Ingraham (10:34):

I’ll wait until he comes.

Sevan Matossian (10:35):

Wad zombie. If you want to earn, our trust needs to come on the show. The thing is this though, this show has become too big just to have Tom, Dick and Harry’s on those days are over. I got fucking Tyson bet Greg Glassman Jr. Howell on the show. I ain’t fucking round put after three L ones. He can come on. Damn, John really is frozen. Look at him just staring off in his space

Taylor Self (10:57):

To Chase’s point. Can I say one thing to Chase’s point? And you’re right, chase. Before I started CrossFit, I thought it was stupid and I did it one time and my sister took me and I hated it. I think she probably beat me and all my friends said it was gay and that’s a bad word and I’m not going to say that. I love it now you’re right. You

Sevan Matossian (11:16):

Love being gay now,

Taylor Self (11:19):

So you’re right.

Chase Ingraham (11:20):

He deserves a

Taylor Self (11:21):

Chance for sure.

Sevan Matossian (11:22):

Damn, I’m not the most

Taylor Self (11:24):

Vulnerable person most of the time, but when

Chase Ingraham (11:27):

I didn’t jump on it, but everyone that starts CrossFit new is going to come from a different point of view and that looked bad from five years ago and what he did prior to, but the conversations I’ve had with him and the interaction that I’ve personally had with him, the guy is here to try the best he can for CrossFit, not for himself, for CrossFit.

Taylor Self (11:48):


Chase Ingraham (11:49):

Hasn’t come in and told us what to do. He literally just sits down and us questions. That’s it, right? And like you said, it was a perfect example of yourself. It’s like how many people looked at CrossFit and was like, that is the dumbest thing ever. They try it and they fall in love with it. Look at everything that you’ve done with CrossFit and what was your point of view before that? If you walked in and I met you as like, Hey Taylor, fuck you because you said this was gay. You never get to be a part of this community,


But give a chance. I’d be like, Hey, guess what? I know that’s what you think. You’re totally off base, but I’m not going to grill you for it. I’m going to welcome you into the community, right? If he comes in with that point of view and everybody shits on him when he gets into the community, how’s that going to change his point of view? Like, Hey, here’s how wrong you are. Welcome. Come on in. Let’s go to some level ones. Let’s go to some affiliates. Let’s go to the affiliate summits. Let’s peek behind the curtain. Let’s talk to affiliate owners and show you how great this actually is and how wrong you were because you were totally wrong. You’re totally off base, 100% off base. What you said five years ago, let’s show you how wrong you were by showing you how

Sevan Matossian (12:57):

Great we’re I agree with you. I agree with everything You’re hire Chase. I know that’s it. Chase, that’s the thing. I agree with everything you’re saying, but whoever hired him or brought him on, set him up for failure about how they presented him to us. He, a private equity guy worked at Bar and some bad videos out there about him. They should have hired

Chase Ingraham (13:16):

You. It’s not Jay’s fault.

Sevan Matossian (13:17):

Okay, I hear you.

Taylor Self (13:17):

You’re hundred percent right. I hear you. And I’m ashamed of attacking him because

Chase Ingraham (13:22):

Not you shouldn be guys. I’m just trying to let everybody who’s listening though too. No,

Sevan Matossian (13:26):

You’re right.

Taylor Self (13:27):

But I think it’s important for me to acknowledge that because dude, I was a drug addict. I mean

Sevan Matossian (13:34):

Why give chance? Which drugs? Which drugs? Which drugs?

Taylor Self (13:38):


Chase Ingraham (13:40):

The weed,

Taylor Self (13:43):

The Ohio state of drugs. There you go, dude.

Chase Ingraham (13:47):

Ohios v Weed.

Taylor Self (13:48):

That’s crazy.

Sevan Matossian (13:50):

David Greco, I third in defensive. Chase the company man. If he was the company man, he would not be no idea. He would be. He’s not a company man. He’s a good dude and he’s talking logic. We need both sides. No one has said anything wrong on this podcast. We’re painting the full picture.

Taylor Self (14:08):

I’m sure he came in because they offered him a shitload of money. They’re like, Hey, look at this cool company. Here’s a ton

Sevan Matossian (14:13):

Of money. Do what

Taylor Self (14:14):

You’re good at. Which is they hired him for a reason. It’s the private equity firm owns CrossFit. But like Chase said, that’s not his fault, but give him a chance to absorb everything that CrossFit is and like you said, it’s really hard to go to a level one and not see the magic and maybe he sees that maybe he experiences it.

Sevan Matossian (14:33):

He’s going to need a lot. He’s going to need a lot of level ones. No, he’s going to need a lot.

Taylor Self (14:37):

Maybe not.

Sevan Matossian (14:38):

No, he is. He is everyone there. Everyone there is. I realize that this morning don’t undermine me. I’m ACEO

Taylor Self (14:44):

People, dude. I used

Sevan Matossian (14:45):

To mind Chase.

Taylor Self (14:46):

Nevermind. I’m not going to talk about the drugs I did and how I did them, but

Sevan Matossian (14:49):

Well, let’s do a show on that. Let’s do a show on that. Part

Chase Ingraham (14:52):

Two. It sounds like your own podcast

Taylor Self (14:53):

On Poofing narcotics. Do you know what that means? You don’t want to know.

Sevan Matossian (14:58):

Yeah, I do. What you are tuned into is the pre-show for what I would argue easily is the most exciting competition in the history of CrossFit. What a great weekend we are going to have, we have Tia Claire Tomy, the fittest human being ever to walk planet earth in her six time championships going against Laura Horvat, the current crowning CrossFit games champion. That’s just on the woman’s side. The men’s side is absolutely insane too. And the cast of characters like Emma Carey, Emma Lawson, the newcomers, Paige Powers, Shelby Neil climbing the ranks also with these two titans in the women’s division are absolutely insane. We got to see one event yesterday, which probably chummed the water and fed everyone’s appetite. Everyone got crazy stimulated, absolutely insane programming, great camera work. And we are going to review what you are about to see next, which will take place in 43 minutes on YouTube for $25. You can get access to all the streams or for free. You can see still what’s a perfect stream that Rogue puts on. And let us begin event number two for, sorry, one more quick thing. Anything you guys want to give you guys a couple minutes to say Anything you want to say about yesterday? Go ahead Taylor.

Taylor Self (16:15):

It is my opinion and I feel so strongly about this, that there’s no way Chase could change my mind about this one. I put your

Sevan Matossian (16:23):

Shirt on,

Taylor Self (16:24):

Boy, listen, I don’t think any of the females stand a chance after watching

Chase Ingraham (16:29):

TA yesterday. I

Taylor Self (16:30):

Really don’t. I think as any competitor getting beaten that badly by someone who just had a baby five months ago, you have no idea what the rep to and you come back and you get smacked around. That’s just like a mental knockout and I would be shocked to see anyone come back to challenge her at all at the Rogue Invitational.

Sevan Matossian (16:53):

I want to say China Cho was in the pre-show with Sean Woodland and Pat Sherwood and she said she’s still up in the air and I appreciated her sentiment, but I agree with you Taylor, Mr. Ingram, any thoughts about yesterday’s competition with the running around carrying heavy shit?

Chase Ingraham (17:09):

The Tia thing was alarming and the Adler pass on the last mile, so I got to be there yesterday to just watch it and I was in the warmup area where they were going past twice every time, even for the miles and the eight hundreds and when Yella ran past us on the first 400 of the mile and then on the way back, Adler was twice as far in front of him than he was behind him. It was crazy. So Adler picking up where he left off is pretty awesome to see. What’d

Sevan Matossian (17:46):

You think? About’s

Taylor Self (17:47):

Running technique.

Sevan Matossian (17:48):

I thought on his last mile he looked like he was still running with a hundred pounds.

Taylor Self (17:52):


Sevan Matossian (17:54):

It was

Taylor Self (17:54):

So weird.

Sevan Matossian (17:55):

Dickheads. I say that when this guy could just totally run me out of the seat’s. Amazing. He does. He did look like almost like he had a limp when he ran and so did Laura. They had a leg that you could see was stronger than the other leg, dude. Yeah, that’s a lot of,

Taylor Self (18:11):

But Adler and Tia run so similarly. They keep everything nice and tight. There’s no wasted movement. It’s super efficient. Quick stride, cadence.

Sevan Matossian (18:20):

Yeah, it was beautiful. Mr. Howell, anything you want to say about yesterday’s day one event? One of the rogue 2023 invitational?

JR Howell (18:28):

Yeah, I actually feel the opposite way that Taylor does after yesterday. So up until Tia gave birth, I bet you running was one of the few things she continued to do all the way

Sevan Matossian (18:38):

Up until it’s trying.

Taylor Self (18:39):

It’s lacking.

JR Howell (18:41):

I’m backstage. Likewise. I feel like after she gave birth and started coming back, cyclical mono structural type stuff was the first thing she started to do. So her background is endurance. I think she was a cross country runner specifically. She’s always been a great runner. She’s not going to lose a lot of that until I see her do some D gymnastics in the 4, 8, 12 workout and more so the heavy, like the deadlift. I’m not just going to concede that she’s just going to go on a tear

Sevan Matossian (19:13):

And finish top three on

JR Howell (19:14):

Every single workout. I just don’t think that’s going to happen eventually. I think there’s still plenty of competition left. I think it’s easy to fall in love with what she did yesterday. I was as impressed as anyone. I think anyone that is married to a woman that’s had children could appreciate that even more because you remember your significant other five and a half months out and think about them going and beating the fittest people in the world. It’s crazy to think about, but I need to see more because that was a kind of a workout that I would’ve pegged Tia to win anyway.

Taylor Self (19:42):

I disagree. Well, she was a strong runner before, but running’s not something that pregnant women are doing up until close to pregnancy. They’re stopping a month, two months at least a lot. I mean we’ve got three pregnant women that take the 9:00 AM at our class every day. I don’t know. I think like you said, event two will tell a lot and I think she’s going to win it and I don’t think it’s going to be that close.

JR Howell (20:07):

We’ll see the back squat, the back squat bar muscle up one.

Taylor Self (20:10):

I don’t think the back squats going to bother her a fucking bit and I think she’s going to kill everyone on the bar. Muscle ups.

JR Howell (20:17):

Yeah, that’s going to be interesting. She is one of the athletes that doesn’t have any experience on it unless she got to touch it like yesterday or the day before, just in the warmup area and you never know with a movement like that, it’s kind of weird. You just never know if an element like that is going to give people more trouble. As good as Tia is at everything, the one thing that she was never really the best at was being upside down. And yeah, this isn’t that kind of a workout, but that just shows you too. Everyone can have some skills that they are a little bit behind on and it’ll be really interesting for me to see more so than this one coming up. I think she’s going to do really well on this one. But

Sevan Matossian (20:57):


JR Howell (20:58):

4 8 12 workout and specifically the deadlift, I’m on the deadlift. Taylor, if it’s just, let’s just say it’s traditional deadlift, do you think she’s top five on that? Do you think she hopes to be top 10? I would think absolute strength would be the last thing to come back.

Taylor Self (21:18):

Dude, I’ve heard from so many people. I was talking with a guy at the gym today who’s like, dude, every time my wife is given birth, the five months after her birth, she prs all her

JR Howell (21:27):

Lifts. Right? Like a walking hormone secretion.

Taylor Self (21:30):

Exactly. I don’t know, dude. I don’t know. I’m just saying the way she looked, how hungry she looked and these athletes train, it’s such a high level. It’s almost like you’re training to be able to recover from so much trauma, like a full day of games training. I’m not going to say at all that that’s the same amount of trauma as giving birth, right? It’s completely different. But you’re training to recover from an immense amount of trauma on your bodies. I don’t know dude. I just don’t think anybody had a,

Sevan Matossian (22:00):

Did she have a vaginal birth or did she have a c-section? Do we know?

Taylor Self (22:02):

No. And what’s the 4, 8, 12? I’m looking it up. Just kidding.

Sevan Matossian (22:06):

That would be also determine her comeback. But dude, five and a half months, any way you wrap it up is insane. Dude,

JR Howell (22:16):


Sevan Matossian (22:16):

Watched my wife go through three births. She’s an incredible CrossFitter, probably half as good as Tia, just but a fucking piece of steel and dude, she wasn’t back to even doing training with the twins for three months. Now granted twins is wild, but this is fucking, that’s what we’re seeing

Taylor Self (22:34):

You think? Sorry, you said 4, 8, 12. Okay. You mean the ring muscle up, handstand, pushup. You think that workout is going to give her a challenge?

JR Howell (22:43):

I actually picked her to win that workout, so I just want to see that. The TIA that I remember, that’s like a, oh no one’s beat here on that.

Taylor Self (22:51):

That’s a home run.

JR Howell (22:52):

She’s got more stamina than anyone muscularly of anyone in the sport. So if I see her do really well on that and then see her still put up a competitive deadlift, then I’ll probably join you with the Yeah, I don’t really think anyone has a chance,

Taylor Self (23:07):

But that’s by the fifth event or the sixth event.

JR Howell (23:09):

Yeah. Yeah

Sevan Matossian (23:11):

Dude. Okay. I’m

Taylor Self (23:12):

Calling it now. Hot take now. No one stands a fricking chance. JR can call.

Sevan Matossian (23:15):

Okay. Okay. Hold on one second. Lemme get us back on track cause I think we’ve left. We need to talk about the event coming in. John, are you back in your pictures? Good. Is there anything quick you want to say about yesterday? Sorry, that was FedEx calling me looking for Tyson beige and they want to deliver his iPad, but I apologize for that for losing track. Go ahead. About the Ron? No. Yeah, about yesterday. Just in general, what were your thoughts about day one of the Rogue 2023 invitational? I didn’t think Tia would look as filthy as she has, but I’m sure that’s been

John Young (23:44):

Beaten to a horse. So other than that, that was about what was expected.

Sevan Matossian (23:52):

Okay. Your connection sucks as Okay. Chase, thanks for coming on and replacing 50%. John, go ahead J John.

John Young (24:00):


Sevan Matossian (24:02):


JR Howell (24:04):

Someone in the group wanted to sponsor your L one, would you like to go take one

John Young (24:11):

For sure? I would for sure take one.

Sevan Matossian (24:14):

Alright. John hasn’t taken his L one. Wow. Yeah, so I’m going

JR Howell (24:17):

To sponsor John’s

Sevan Matossian (24:18):

L one.

Taylor Self (24:18):

No stop.

JR Howell (24:20):

CrossFit crash is going to sponsor John Young’s L one. We

Taylor Self (24:22):

Get L ones, dude, let us give it to him.

Sevan Matossian (24:26):

What do you mean we

JR Howell (24:27):

Get ’em?

Taylor Self (24:28):

Whatcha talking about when we have seminars? CrossFit Charlotte all the time and we get two scholarships to give away.

Sevan Matossian (24:34):

Okay, let’s talk about this offline if we can do it. Let’s do it. Let’s do it. Yeah, John needs to get one.

John Young (24:38):

I’m super down.

Sevan Matossian (24:40):

Super down. I like that. Okay. Okay, event two. Sorry Caleb, I keep fucking with your shit. Event two happens in exactly 35 minutes. I don’t know who goes first. The men or the women yesterday the women went first. It is called seat at the bar. It’s 15, 10 for the men, fifteen, ten five for the women and it’s log muscle up and then in between those sets it’s five back squats at 3 75 for the men. 2 64 the women. Is this a race guys? Is this a race? John, you go first. Is this a race? Is this a sprint?

John Young (25:15):

I think this is just whoever manages the log muscle ups the best. I think I would be so fun if we see fails at the last five back squats. I like that it’s five back squats after every single one and it to go for it, especially in a race while they don’t know if they’ll stand up. I hope that that happens, but I really just think this is log muscle up ability and then there’s not going to be a ton of ground made up on the back squats. There will be time, but not a ton of time.

Sevan Matossian (25:47):

Taylor, God, John, your connection. So back Taylor, John did say something that touched my heart but I thought that you guys refuted yesterday. He says I think if I heard him right, he’s excited to see if anyone fails the back squats. Well just going for it. That’s what I was kind of hoping for, but I feel like you guys beat it into me that like, hey dude, no one’s failing the back squats.

Taylor Self (26:04):

I don’t think anyone’s going to fail a back squat because it’s a weight that you’re not going to take a risk on unless you know you have it. It’s lighter than 4 0 5 and no one, well, were there athletes failing last year? There are athletes failing. I think maybe just not being able to do it. Maybe Daniel Brandon failed a couple reps or something, but I don’t think any athletes fail here. I think it’s at a weight that dictates that you go slow enough on them that you’re not going to fail while also being light enough where, I don’t know, I just think it’s at this weird weight where I just don’t predict any of the men and women to fail.

Sevan Matossian (26:42):

Jr what is the strategy if you’re the best guys in the field to win this? What’s Carolyn Lambay telling Adler

JR Howell (26:52):

That the first two rounds are a trap because like I said when we talked about the events a couple nights ago, if you’re someone that’s going to go right to the bar, do five squats with one breath in between. By the time you get back to the bar, that’s a 32nd break. So essentially you’re doing 35 bar muscle ups with a 32nd break. So I think the first two rounds specifically are a huge trap. I think the people that do come out hot and go for an unbroken set of 15 to 20 are just those kind of athletes that know, hey, I can find it here at the beginning or I can wait for it to find me and either way I’m just going to get tired at the same point and I’m just going to be able to kind of take my medicine. So I think that you see a lot of people you

Sevan Matossian (27:37):


JR Howell (27:38):


Sevan Matossian (27:38):

You’re not. I don’t think he’s allowed to play anymore. He got to go.

Speaker 8 (27:41):

Did they not give him wifi?

JR Howell (27:43):


Sevan Matossian (27:43):

The fuck is going on? No, you don’t

Chase Ingraham (27:45):

Get wifi there.

JR Howell (27:47):

I remember last year I had to go sit in the hallway. I had to go sit in the hallway where the volunteers were getting served their food to have a decent reception.

Sevan Matossian (27:54):

Yeah, Caleb looks good. Tyler and I. We can see Caleb and his shit looks perfect and it sounds like I think they can see each other. Chase, do you agree that it’s a trap and if it is a trap, which athlete? There’s an athlete name that I know that’s going to fall for on the men’s side first. Do you agree that it’s a trap?

Chase Ingraham (28:13):

You’re saying it’s a no olsson trap?

Sevan Matossian (28:14):


Chase Ingraham (28:17):

Yes. I honestly think this isn’t a bad one for Noah. The guy’s great at bar mu ups, he can handle that and he’s a decent squatter. It’s only five, it’s 3 75 instead of the 4 0 5 last year. But I do agree with JR. It’s like it’s all about the bar mu up Jr.

Sevan Matossian (28:33):

I didn’t give him an out though. JR said hey, even though he knows it’s a trap, he might just go for it anyway. Right?

JR Howell (28:39):

Well the thing is, last year he came out with a massive set. I don’t think he did the 20 unbroken, but I remember specifically him and Chandler. Him and Chandler did a huge set and they did both did really well. So either you get ahead and then your set of 10 is like I got to do singles and doubles. But you’ve already built a lead on so many people by that point that maybe it doesn’t matter. But I don’t think there are many people like Noah that can afford to do that. He’s been doing that for so long and he knows himself so well that he’s just like, Hey guys, I’m going out hot but I’m still going to do well because I’m just better at bar muscle ups. Something about Noah too that’s interesting. He has really big hands for someone, his height hand size on something like this is going to matter a lot and he traditionally isn’t someone who’s known for having great grip endurance. However, he’s got really, really good grip on that log he did last year.

Sevan Matossian (29:31):

Taylor, what will Tia Tomi the greatest CrossFitter who ever lived do? Is she the exception to what any of us could say if she just go out there and blast this thing?

Taylor Self (29:45):

I don’t think she does the log muscle ups unbroken, but I think she’s one of the people to do it, I think. And for the women, I would be surprised if it takes her longer than eight minutes

Sevan Matossian (29:58):

Chase, when you come down off that bar.

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