Rogue Day 1 | Recap Show

Sevan Matossian (00:00):

I tried to stick ’em in there too. Bam. We’re live. And then there were four Andrew. Hillary, thanks for joining us. Caleb. Thanks for joining us. Caleb, how was it there in the venue?

Caleb Beaver (00:10):

It was pretty awesome. It’s a pretty cool atmosphere. A lot of people actually showed up for this one and got to see a lot of stuff. Basically the whole race, you could watch it from vendor village, you go see it in the outfield through the warning track of the baseball field. You could see them running across the warning track. You could see Koski roll his ankle right behind the bleachers.

Sevan Matossian (00:32):

Oh, that was a rolled ankle. Okay. I thought it was a cramp. Okay.

Taylor Self (00:34):

I thought it was a cramp too.

Caleb Beaver (00:37):

He hit the deck pretty hard and he didn’t want to get up and he was limping pretty hard too. Yeah, Kosky was

Taylor Self (00:43):


Sevan Matossian (00:43):

Taylor, welcome Tiah Welcome event. One Texas Heavy from the Rogue 2023 Invitational in the books. Lots of fucking questions answered at at least fun stuff, stimulating stuff. Let’s start with the women. Tia absolutely murders it. Murders it with a 2024. She started the race in first and did she keep it the entire race?

Taylor Self (01:13):

The lead? Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (01:15):

Yeah. I think she

Mattew Souza (01:16):

Trailed Laura for a little bit. She

Taylor Self (01:18):

Trailed Laura up until they dumped the heavy bag.

Sevan Matossian (01:22):

Yeah, T

Taylor Self (01:24):

Pull the away.

Sevan Matossian (01:25):

Yeah. Very similar what we

Mattew Souza (01:26):

Saw with the guys.

Sevan Matossian (01:27):

Yeah. At the bag dump. I saw I have in the order here was Tia Gabby, no, sorry, Tia. Laura. Gabby, right. And then Rolf.

Taylor Self (01:38):

Dude, Tia needs to retire. Honestly, are you

Sevan Matossian (01:40):

Kidding me? This

Taylor Self (01:41):

Comment says, I am done with freaking Tia. Retire. Ho.

Sevan Matossian (01:45):

Why? Who said that? No, no, no, no, no. Dude, how can you say that real quick? Why are you hating? Why can’t it just be dude, the greatest ever is back and enjoy it?

Taylor Self (01:56):

Is it enjoyable though?

Sevan Matossian (01:59):

Yeah. I enjoyed Hiller

Taylor Self (02:00):

Hiller. What do you think?

Sevan Matossian (02:01):

I enjoyed

Taylor Self (02:01):

That it isn’t enjoyable and the slightest Thank you. Tell

Sevan Matossian (02:04):

Me why do you say that? Yeah, yeah. Why?

Taylor Self (02:06):

It’s fucking boring. It’s reading a book. You already know the ending to eight fucking times.

Sevan Matossian (02:13):

Lemme tell you what’s not boring. Right behind my name is our most important sponsor and friend, ca peptides. Damnit. Hey,

Taylor Self (02:21):

It is one event

Sevan Matossian (02:25):

I way off ca peptides. Thank you to ca peptides Paper Street Coffee, toast Pacers, birth fit Wolverine and our newest friend to the family. Grill your ass off.

Taylor Self (02:36):

I just read that. I was wondering what that was.

Sevan Matossian (02:38):

Throw your taste spacers on

Taylor Self (02:40):

My deuce.

Sevan Matossian (02:43):

Start drilling. Drink some coffee. Take your peptides and fuck, and then go to deal with, Hey dude, I

Taylor Self (02:50):

Need some of this sent. Can I get some of this sent to me

Sevan Matossian (02:53):

To deal with the repercussions of having unprotected sex? We have birth it for you if you use the other products in the proper sequence. What was answered for us? What was her time? What was it she did? A mile heavy ruck. 800 meter, medium ruck, mile sprint, A bag carry that looked completely inconsequential, completely, almost. It was stupid the way T,

Taylor Self (03:18):

It was dumb.

Sevan Matossian (03:19):

It was stupid. It was stupid. The way T do

Taylor Self (03:21):

That was so disappointing

Sevan Matossian (03:23):

And for a time of, what was it, 20 34, 20 24, 20, 20, 24. What were some of our guesses? Jackass like me were like, is it possible in 40? Yeah,

Andrew Hiller (03:40):

I was thinking

Taylor Self (03:40):

30 minutes.

Sevan Matossian (03:42):

The sub 20, I watched a show where they guessed it would be 40 minutes. Some old guy with a durag said, 40 minutes. You’re close. Look, oh my God, are you TMI hater, Ms?

Taylor Self (03:58):

No. It’s one of those things where in the future we’ll look back and we’ll just be impressed and it’ll be amazing by what she accomplished and stuff. But when you’re in the moment, after a while, it just gets old and you’re just like, just want some drama. You want something different.

Andrew Hiller (04:16):

Hey, I got to say in the first event to do that, it’s pretty cool. I retract any boring statement that I had about it and anything I’ve ever said about her at the very minimum that’s impressive and that’s cool to see in the first event after having come off a pregnancy, you

Taylor Self (04:32):

Retraced everything you’ve ever said about

Andrew Hiller (04:34):

Her for that one event. I’m watching it and I’m like, dear God, that’s something else.

Taylor Self (04:40):

You think she’s on the juice?

Andrew Hiller (04:42):

Yeah, but still one to watch.

Sevan Matossian (04:46):

Wait, you think she’s on the juice now?

Andrew Hiller (04:49):

Five months postpartum dude. Yeah,

Taylor Self (04:53):

Or her baby is the juice.

Andrew Hiller (04:55):

Well, I mean she is drinking a rain.

Sevan Matossian (04:58):

You guys are out of your mind. Listen, her running looked perfect. Who’s running looked better than hers? And when I say better, don’t start nitpicking the form. Just consistent and efficient. Looked more consistent and efficient than hers. A hundred percent.

Taylor Self (05:12):


Sevan Matossian (05:13):

One even better than hostess, right? Oh,

Taylor Self (05:15):

Hostess. Running technique is dick

Sevan Matossian (05:18):

Dog. Shit, even it’s not good.

Taylor Self (05:21):

Jeff’s was great and if Hosta had Jeff’s running technique, Jeff would not have caught him.

Sevan Matossian (05:26):

Would have no chance. Jedi Nelson, what did you think of Tumi? Running

Taylor Self (05:34):

Great. I was incredibly impressed by Gabby. I did not expect that. And she was impressive as well.

Andrew Hiller (05:41):

Hey, who is witty Davis? You people are fucking nuts for talking about she’s on the juice while she’s fucking nursing her baby. She’s also drinking 300 milligrams of caffeine every year apparently. Rain sponsorship and also any evidence saying that that’s something that you can’t do. Whitney Davis.

Sevan Matossian (05:59):

Whitney, are we nuts for talking about it or would she be nuts for doing it or both? I’m open. I’m open because she does have a commercial showing that she is drinking 300 milligram cans of rain and she’s bragging about it being a mother in the commercial, so anything’s possible. Can I get

Taylor Self (06:17):

That baby aggressive dude? Get that fucker going. Wake him up.

Sevan Matossian (06:22):

The baby going Taylor. The technique, the way that they won they Adler and Tia is that the way he pictured the winner would win it. The way they paste it where they broke away and specifically hosta. I thought for sure he had it won. He looked like his strategy was rock solid.

Taylor Self (06:43):

I should have expected to see what we saw. I was really hoping for a really big race and I was expecting them to drag the bag up the hill and when they didn’t I was like, oh, what the fuck? But I would imagine that’s because of the weather and the rain.

Sevan Matossian (07:01):

When Hosta drops his bag at the 8 32 mark and he’s just running with the small 45 pound ruck or whatever. That was on his back. Did you? He took a huge lead. Did you think he had it in the bag at that point? Judiah?

Taylor Self (07:15):

I thought

Andrew Hiller (07:16):

He did. Yeah.

Taylor Self (07:17):

I thought the way he took off in the lead

Andrew Hiller (07:19):

He built, I thought he was good.

Sevan Matossian (07:22):

Susa, did you have any doubt that he was going to win? Yeah, absolutely. Once the ski boots were off, I knew he was going to hit the jet.

Taylor Self (07:27):

Oh my god. Big fucking ski guy. Huh?

Sevan Matossian (07:30):

Wait, tell me, what are you guys talking about?

Taylor Self (07:33):

The announcer must have referenced the feeling of dropping the bag from

Andrew Hiller (07:38):

Gor the

Taylor Self (07:39):

Same as taking off ski boots after a long day on the slopes like seven times I

Andrew Hiller (07:46):

Tore, I heard Brian in the background in the earlier portion of the women

Taylor Self (07:50):


Andrew Hiller (07:52):

Could you guys hear Brian Friend in the broadcast? There was two voices

Taylor Self (07:54):

Going at once. Yeah, there was a

Sevan Matossian (07:56):

Video issues. We’ll circle back around and talk about the commentary. It was absolute dog shit was the worst. It now holds the worst commentary heard. I apologize to Adrian and the Lone Ranger, but it was horrible. You didn’t know where fucking anyone was. They didn’t tell you the times. Hardly when people were passing, they didn’t tell you it wasn’t even a race and get the fucking guy who owns Goruck the fuck out of there. Give him his own show later on. I don’t want to hear any of that shit. I need to know where people are. I need to know the fucking split times when Adler fucking passes yellow hosta. I need to know how many yards are left in the fucking race and when he starts dragging his bag, I need to know where Hosta is behind him. Make something up. Lie I think he’s 80 yards behind. I don’t give a shit. I can’t watch a race if it’s not spoke about like a race and you’re telling me about ski boots, an hour of that bullshit.

Taylor Self (08:54):

The most accurate comment is somebody saying it was a golf broadcast. Oh, he’s creeping up on the back nine. He’s taking the sixth car bogey

Sevan Matossian (09:02):

And what’s a shame? It was beautifully shot. Beautifully shot until the end that they fucked up the finish line, which is a shame. Beautifully shot. The camera work was fucking brilliant.

Taylor Self (09:12):

It was frustrating that they weren’t given positions either. It’s like, okay, what’d

Andrew Hiller (09:17):

She finish or what did he finish?

Sevan Matossian (09:19):

Anything? Dude, any placements during the 20 minutes? I swear to God go back and watch the men. They didn’t even talk about the race after the first mile. It was a fucking Gor commercial in a bad one at that. Oh my God. It was fucking atrocious. I couldn’t even fall. It was a shame. It was a fucking shame. We need to know where Chandler was when all of a sudden Wakowski was in fourth. It’s like, what the fuck? Come on man.

Taylor Self (09:44):

No, there was no no talk about the jock in position inside the whole pack of the men all caught up at the end. There was only three

Sevan Matossian (09:51):

Guys. You were like, oh fuck here, it’s going to be Roman Adler and Ella.

Taylor Self (09:55):

And then all of a sudden there was

Sevan Matossian (09:57):

10 dudes right there

Taylor Self (09:58):

And we didn’t even know that they were coming up or how they did it or anything. It was

Sevan Matossian (10:02):

That. And don’t tell me you don’t know where Chandler is. He’s the only fucking black guy out there. Use the fucking drone shot and be like, he’s in. Fourth guy was out there. Would you be like, well, we don’t know which one Jedi is. He’s the one in the wheelchair. Oh, it’s fucking annoying as fuck. Anyway, we’re going to tell you some stuff that they didn’t tell you. We’re going to go back to.

Taylor Self (10:21):


Andrew Hiller (10:22):


Taylor Self (10:22):

Kosky collapse and then still get up and beat Hoffer? Oh, I called Victor Hoffer for the L and Travis. Where did

Sevan Matossian (10:30):

Travis database wasn’t the third, wasn’t he fourth? But we need to know that too. That has to be answered before the show’s over that had to be answered. That was my question too. As soon as I saw them come across the finish line, I’m like, how did that happen? Did Hoffer hurt himself or is Hoffer horrible?

Taylor Self (10:48):

So why do they hire these slap dicks? Dude? Why don’t they put me up in the broadcast booth because they have shirts and you don’t,

Sevan Matossian (10:55):

Shelby Neil got laughed, but I’m still impressed with her finish. Danny Spiegel crazy impressed, crossed the finish line with a smile on her face.

Taylor Self (11:05):

She crossed the finish line

Andrew Hiller (11:06):

Making fun. How

Taylor Self (11:07):

Bad She sucks at running.

Andrew Hiller (11:09):

I was impressed. I listened to an interview that she did with Lauren Kalil, which I thought was a great interview, and she said she was excited to compete because she kind of lost the fire going into semi-finals and all I can think when she crossed the finish line like that is you are not competing

Taylor Self (11:23):

At all.

Andrew Hiller (11:24):

At all. Thank you. That’s not competing. What is wrong with you?

Taylor Self (11:27):

Yeah, she was like,

Andrew Hiller (11:29):

Oh hi Teo, nice to see you here.

Taylor Self (11:31):

Yeah, you still, it’s just right. It is a hundred percent for her. It’s

Sevan Matossian (11:37):

Just about

Taylor Self (11:37):

Staying relevant.

Sevan Matossian (11:38):


Taylor Self (11:38):

No, that’s all it is.

Sevan Matossian (11:39):

But let me see. Jedi as a games athlete, you’re telling me she trains that hard just to stay relevant. She

Taylor Self (11:45):

Trains that hard to eat. Her crumble cookies. She

Andrew Hiller (11:47):

Doesn’t need to train hard. She’s a genetic.

Sevan Matossian (11:52):

You don’t think she train hard

Taylor Self (11:53):

Data since she just maintains,

Sevan Matossian (11:55):

Oh man, guys, really?

Andrew Hiller (11:57):

She’ll try hard when the events are in her favor. She’ll compete then.

Sevan Matossian (12:01):

That’s what I was going to say. She probably knew right off the jump that this wasn’t going to be her event, so why put forth that much effort? Maybe two more spots, but thank you Caleb

Taylor Self (12:10):


Sevan Matossian (12:11):

You’re a mind reader. Let’s see, Danny Spiegel’s time, what is it? 27, 16 do 20. Don’t look at her placement. Look at her time. That is fast, isn’t it? No.

Andrew Hiller (12:20):

No mind.

Taylor Self (12:21):

No, it’s all in the context of the placement. Seven

Sevan Matossian (12:25):

Minutes slower. I run a

Taylor Self (12:26):

Mile between the time Tia finished and when

Sevan Matossian (12:29):

Danny did what was mid-pack? Scroll up just two there. 23. 23.

Taylor Self (12:34):

Still four minutes behind Mid-pack. Four minutes.

Sevan Matossian (12:37):

I took a shit and wiped

Andrew Hiller (12:39):

Tia’s final time on the mile of six 20. She lost by more than a

Sevan Matossian (12:42):

Mile she beat Shelby Neil CrossFit games athlete.

Taylor Self (12:47):

Okay, dude, I don’t know. I think Shelby didn’t know she was competing until four days ago.

Sevan Matossian (12:53):

Fair enough. Like,

Taylor Self (12:53):

Hey, you want to come to Rogue? She’s like, yeah, I want free. She literally said she started training like three weeks ago,

Andrew Hiller (12:59):


Sevan Matossian (13:00):

Yeah. Tia took the lead. Sorry, in the notes here I see Tia took the lead on the 800 meter run. That was when they just had the 400. Sorry, how much was that pack? The 35 pound rock?

Andrew Hiller (13:13):

It was 30 and 50.

Sevan Matossian (13:15):

Okay, so she had 50 pounds on her back.

Andrew Hiller (13:19):

Yes sir.

Sevan Matossian (13:20):

And then her and Gabby pulled away significantly and Gabby hung with her. And like someone said earlier, I dunno if it’s jetted eye, but how impressive Gabby looked and then they both lapped Shelby Neil, she still had the big weight on her back. Tia looked amazing in the final mile. That was one cool thing that Adrian Conway did say. She kept getting faster and faster and faster. She looked like she was ready to go run five miles. Gabby took second. Laura was completely out of sight and so I thought Laura took third but she didn’t. I guess Emily Rolf ends up taking third as we said, the bag drag was a joke. I don’t know if it was necessarily a joke for some of the guys, but it was for sure a joke for the best people. Right. It

Taylor Self (14:00):

Had no impact on the race though whatsoever. We

Sevan Matossian (14:04):

Didn’t see any. Okay.

Andrew Hiller (14:06):

No. Katie coming on. Can she confirm if that was changed?

Sevan Matossian (14:10):

Hey, what do you think would’ve been different? You think they should have carried those ammo cans? A hundred pound ammo.

Taylor Self (14:17):

It had gone up the hill. They would’ve had to go backwards. They wouldn’t have been able to stay facing forward like they were and it would’ve changed the whole pace and the technique to drag the bag.

Andrew Hiller (14:27):

You think that if someone rolls in off the run first and someone rolls in second, someone rolls in third, that going up the hill, there would’ve been a shift in the lead where there was clearly not when they were dragging in across the field.

Taylor Self (14:38):

I don’t know about the lead because of the way t and Adler had their lead, but I think some of the mixed positions, especially with the guys so close, if they’re going up the hill, there would’ve been some,

Andrew Hiller (14:51):

That’s what I’m saying because there was no lead change once you got to the bag. Where you got the bag is where you finished, which made it irrelevant and I’m wondering

Taylor Self (15:00):

Yeah, I think Hill because you would’ve seen people with their feet sliding doing short steps versus trying to take big squat poles like going up the hill. It would’ve made a difference.

Sevan Matossian (15:10):

Yeah, I think it would’ve been the equivalent of the crucifix bag at the end of Capitol Hill

Andrew Hiller (15:14):

Where leads, whatever, whatever. You know what the fuck I’m saying? The Capitol. What was itx bag, right? I said it wrong too. They

Sevan Matossian (15:28):

Should change the name of it to the crucifix bag. Naming is the origin of all things and I just fucking named it. So there it is. That’s what it’s called. But you saw people that had a big lead and then just couldn’t move the bag. I bet you we would’ve saw people get halfway up the a hill, their quads would’ve locked up. They would’ve started slipping and sliding. That bag would’ve went backwards. You would’ve had people that got stuck and then you would’ve had others like potentially Danny Spiegel wouldn’t have mattered when she came in four minutes other, but she would’ve moved that bag a lot faster up the hill. So you would’ve potentially seen some lead changes in the middle of the pack had they included the hill.

Taylor Self (15:58):

Do we think that was a true mile course?

Andrew Hiller (16:01):

That’s what I was thinking the whole time.

Sevan Matossian (16:03):

Why wouldn’t you?

Andrew Hiller (16:04):


Taylor Self (16:05):

Dude, they took a workout that I guess I thought was maybe I’m just so out of touch with what a 100 pound, one mile ruck is, but I was not thinking 20 minutes. No, I was thinking 30 minutes. I mean that’s just crazy. I don’t know. I mean, look, at the end of the day, it doesn’t really matter. The right people won the workout. It’s my ego because I don’t want to imagine that I was 10 minutes off of what a workout should take.

Sevan Matossian (16:37):


Taylor Self (16:37):

You taking that for later. Me and

Sevan Matossian (16:40):

Hill shirt’s off, shirts off. Boys top 10. Someone in the comments said, Lauren Fisher, let’s give her hats off. I agree. I was surprised to see her finish in the top 10. There she goes. Number eight, number seven, Daniel Brandon, Manan. Anese nine. Impressive. Bethany Flores. Six.

Taylor Self (17:00):

This is crazy. Josee finished both Rucks the one mile with the a hundred, then the 800 with the 45 and 1240.

Sevan Matossian (17:08):

I think Tia did it in 1242.

Taylor Self (17:10):

That’s an eight minute mile. Averaging an eight minute mile with the a hundred pound ruck. I mean, I don’t know, dude, maybe I’m crazy.

Sevan Matossian (17:17):

Adler did the whole thing in 1907. Emma Lawson in fifth, Laura Horvat in fourth. Emily Rolf in third in second place, Gabby Maga and Tia Tomi with a 2024 in first place and probably could have done it faster. As she crosses the finish line, she waits and like the fucking champ that she is. Shakes everyone’s hands. Come on. Pats. Yep. Pats him on the back. No, that’s

Taylor Self (17:42):

A big dick move. That’s

Sevan Matossian (17:43):

A big I’ll find big dick champ. Polite. A big laia move you want,

Andrew Hiller (17:46):

You know how you say Dick Castro says good job or he is proud of you.

Sevan Matossian (17:50):

Yeah, I’m proud of you.

Taylor Self (17:51):

It’s the same freaking thing.

Sevan Matossian (17:53):

Alright, good job. She wanted to make sure that everybody

Taylor Self (17:54):

Knew that she was fine. Good job.

Andrew Hiller (17:58):

She wanted to make sure that everybody knew she was fine, that she wasn’t hurting and it had no impact on her mind

Sevan Matossian (18:04):

Games. You’re right.

Taylor Self (18:05):


Andrew Hiller (18:05):

Don’t blame her. That’s cool.

Sevan Matossian (18:07):

I don’t blame her either.

Andrew Hiller (18:08):

Good strategy.

Sevan Matossian (18:09):

I’m going to start with Taylor Jedi. You’re going to get the best position on this. Oh, there she is. Okay. No mention of Ariel Lowen during the entire run. Did anyone say her name once?

Taylor Self (18:20):

No. It’s because like you said, the broadcast fucking blue.

Sevan Matossian (18:24):

How did they not mention her name? Maybe I’m just so caught up in what we talk about. I think everyone should talk about it.

Taylor Self (18:31):

Which one of you slap Dicks? Chose Colin Brander to

Andrew Hiller (18:33):

Win that event.

Taylor Self (18:34):

I picked her to lose.

Sevan Matossian (18:39):

And Susan’s the only one that picked you to win. Add senior analysts to my resume. Harvard, MBA senior analyst. Wow. Senior analyst. Senior analyst.

Taylor Self (18:50):

We got you dude. I’m coming over big boy.

Sevan Matossian (18:55):

Let’s speak to the man who’s done a ruck or two. Nicholas we met, is that a fake name? Is that a fake name?

Taylor Self (19:06):


Sevan Matossian (19:07):

Okay. 12 mile in Ruck. 35 pounds in Boots. I dunno what a flick. Is that a cigarette? Lighter helmet. Weapons. What kind of weapons? Like a pocket knife. It’s normally finished in an hour and 50 to two hours by top. Finishers. Boots way harder than shoes. That’s good. What’s

Taylor Self (19:22):

The relevance here? So six miles an

Andrew Hiller (19:24):

Hour is

Taylor Self (19:27):

12 minutes mile. We’re going to need a miles per hour.

Andrew Hiller (19:30):

They did two and a half miles. How do you compare that to 12 miles?

Sevan Matossian (19:33):

Well first cut it in half and go. Six miles would be 15. This is back

Taylor Self (19:37):

Of the napkin math and

Andrew Hiller (19:38):

I’m fucking out.

Sevan Matossian (19:41):

Three miles would be 27 and a half minutes for those guys, but with one third the weight in some shitty boots

Taylor Self (19:52):

So it shakes

Sevan Matossian (19:53):

Out. Alright, that’s good. Yeah, that’s good. Alright. Thank you. Thank you for your service. Yeah, yeah, that too. Thank you. Okay. Incredible time by Tia. Tomi comes out in first place. We will circle back to discuss. Oh, one more thing. Pull up the list again. I’m going to ask you guys in a reversal order. I’m going to fuck Taylor the hardest first. Who’s the most disappointing in this of all these finishers when you see them down here? Kyra Milligan, Danny Spiegel, Shelby Neil, Paige Powers since 16th. Can I go first? Go ahead. Hiller.

Andrew Hiller (20:22):

Emma Carey.

Sevan Matossian (20:23):

Emma Carey in 13th place. And tell me why you think you just expected better.

Taylor Self (20:29):


Andrew Hiller (20:29):


Taylor Self (20:29):


Andrew Hiller (20:30):

I pulled up my heat one app right before the event started and I have her finishing pretty high.

Sevan Matossian (20:36):

Taylor, who are you? Like, oh my goodness. Really? What happened?

Taylor Self (20:39):

Most disappointed Laura. I don’t think she stands a chance now.

Sevan Matossian (20:42):

Wow. No one stands a chance. Tia took it.

Taylor Self (20:46):

Tia just out and shot it all over everyone. Dude. Unfortunately, as much as I hate to say it and I want it to be exciting, it’s not going to be

Sevan Matossian (20:57):

Tia Tomi, dick slapping people.

Andrew Hiller (21:01):

That’s probably a good thing to say right there because we opened up the show saying that it was kind of, oh my God, here we go again. Tia Tomi. And what’s impressive was what she did here. What’s going to be bothersome is the outcome, which is she wins every event,

Taylor Self (21:14):

Right? She’s going to destroy people and if she’s not going to listen to this one, but if she did, she would at least have the constellation that How

Andrew Hiller (21:21):

Do you mean this is what she does go into bed fuels. Really? Yeah. You didn’t hear that.

Taylor Self (21:25):

She plays this for her baby. Her belly

Andrew Hiller (21:31):


Sevan Matossian (21:32):

Damn. She’s just as savage. I’m a Lawson. I wanted her to come higher up. I want to steal more points. I wanted to tighter race between her Laura and Tia. So she still did great. Fifth top five finish. No issue there, but I would’ve led to see her switch spots with Gabriela. Mr. Snelson the only real athlete in the group.

Taylor Self (21:56):

I agreed with Hiller. I think Emma, I expected her to finish better. The fact that Fisher and whatnot beat her. That’s a total surprise to me. But somebody I will tell you I was impressed with was also Bethany Flores. The fact that she would look that strong coming off and if she continues to progress, she could be a threat next year.

Sevan Matossian (22:16):

For me it’s Paige Powers. When I think of mayhem, I think of runners. Really Rich. Yeah. Yeah,

Andrew Hiller (22:22):


Sevan Matossian (22:23):


Andrew Hiller (22:24):

I like that shoe. I like that pick.

Sevan Matossian (22:26):

I do too.

Andrew Hiller (22:27):

She’s rather disappointing on that event. Yeah,

Sevan Matossian (22:30):

I want her to be sixth or seventh. Top 10 for sure. Would’ve been great for her.

Andrew Hiller (22:34):

Hey, you know what? To be honest, for a running event, this is disappointing for Spiegel because it’s an 80 pound fucking ruck here. That’s why Roman comes out so hot with the heavy bag.

Taylor Self (22:48):

That’s the only reason Danny didn’t take 20th.

Andrew Hiller (22:52):

Three mile run.

Sevan Matossian (22:53):

I think the

Taylor Self (22:54):

18th is a big dub for her.

Andrew Hiller (22:55):

I know Kara’s got some small legs. I mean they’re big, but it’s like a pug running around.

Sevan Matossian (23:01):

Let’s cruise over to the boys. They came out hot, Roman yellow, hosta, Adler Mayor, Ricky Mack, Jay Crouch, Chandler Phi Kowski, Jason Hopper come out really hot right away. One of the first things that happens is Janowski goes down as we mentioned. Where did he end up taking what place

Taylor Self (23:21):

He took 19th. Victor Hoffer lost to him and Janowski laid down. Dude, that’s embarrassing

Sevan Matossian (23:27):

Bro. Gently took his bag off and laid down and then it was examining his leg like he was in no rush.

Taylor Self (23:33):

He’s like I my leg. And then he got up and still be hoffer.

Sevan Matossian (23:36):

Kudos to the camera team for catching that. That was pretty cool. Hey, one thing we didn’t catch real quick before you move on from that. Actually he healed up twice as fast. He was the toe space at Rock Mat. I heard that it was his ankle. It wasn’t his ankle. Nope. He had this product. The med team rushed it out. He rolled his foot on it, did some squats. Good as new beat that he

Caleb Beaver (23:56):

Put any

Taylor Self (23:57):

Seasoning on his foot. He put

Caleb Beaver (23:58):

Some of that. Grill your ass off. Seasoning. Powdered it up. Tal caught up. Probably meal prepping with it right now. View in your kitchen. Gave birth on it too. Carry on,

Sevan Matossian (24:08):

Carry on. Hey. And that was Janowskis mistress right there. She also uses the rock.

Taylor Self (24:15):

Dude, I think that’s what the rock mat is for. If you have a home birth like Cara, you just lay it underneath your body and dump your baby on it. Dude, toughen it up.

Caleb Beaver (24:25):

That resilience early.

Taylor Self (24:28):

I don’t feel any difference with the rock mat. So

Sevan Matossian (24:33):

Nelson started walking again after using the rock mat.

Taylor Self (24:37):

He started.

Caleb Beaver (24:37):

Look at his freaking avatar.

Sevan Matossian (24:39):

Hey, did he cramp or did he roll his ankle?

Taylor Self (24:42):

I think cramped.

Caleb Beaver (24:43):

He rolled his ankle

Sevan Matossian (24:46):

Tiah cramped or rolled ankle?

Taylor Self (24:48):

I think he cramped

Sevan Matossian (24:50):

Souza. Yeah,

Caleb Beaver (24:52):

I’m going with

Sevan Matossian (24:52):

Cramped too because he held feet good.

Caleb Beaver (24:55):

I mean it looked like a cramp, but Caleb said he rolled his ankle.

Sevan Matossian (24:57):

He was there. Taylor,

Caleb Beaver (24:59):

You heard it said

Taylor Self (25:00):

Caleb said a lot of weird shit. Okay, Caleb, come on Caleb,

Sevan Matossian (25:03):

Can you come on? Do you know? Because the way he held his leg looked like it was a cramp. What? Did you know something Caleb?

Caleb Beaver (25:11):

Pretty sure I saw him roll his ankle when he came around the berm. Okay. And then he just laid down. I’m pretty sure. I mean he was 50 yards away from me. Right. Did you see it Taylor? Did you see it from the camera angle? No, I didn’t see shit. Didn’t

Sevan Matossian (25:24):

See shit. But we saw him holding his, it looked like he was holding his hammy.

Caleb Beaver (25:28):

Oh, I saw him holding his ankle when he stood up.

Sevan Matossian (25:30):

Okay, fine. Okay.

Caleb Beaver (25:32):

I could be very wrong.

Sevan Matossian (25:33):

Alright, we’ll find out. And so up until some great camera work for a host, it comes in after the first mile with the ruck a hundred pounds at 8 32. They did actually have a graphic for that I think, which was pretty nice. And then Koff was in second, Adler in third, and I think Ricky in fourth as yellow made a huge breakaway there. Andre Hu day whose coach was on the sideline. And you could see him and I don’t dunno what he told him, but he was telling him something and jogged a little bit with him. Then

Taylor Self (26:09):

The next lap when Adler was catching him, he runs like he’s pillaging a fricking village in the fricking 14 hundreds. Dude, that’s how yellow hosted Rons did. He needs to get some running technique.

Sevan Matossian (26:21):

What did you say, Jedi? Caroline was running next to Adler.

Taylor Self (26:25):

Yeah. And Andre was nowhere to be found when Adler was actually catching him. I thought that was weird that he wasn’t there. The next lap.

Sevan Matossian (26:32):

Who day was in the bar already celebrating like we were at 1240 by my estimate. You didn’t see this on the feed. A hosta finished the first mile and the 800 and he started the second mile or the third phase of the race at that point. I don’t know who was in what fucking place, but I think it was Hosta Adler and then Roman in third, and I think Chandler at that point was alone in fourth and just kind of hanging out. Adler was closing in on Hosta very quickly. Was it the last 800? I don’t know. But they had no rucks on and Adler made a move and pulled away from Roman and caught up with Hosta. Adler takes the lead. We don’t fucking know where with its 300, 400, 500. We don’t know where the fuck it’s happening. No one’s even talking about it.

Taylor Self (27:27):

Do you think he was speaking third grade Russian and talking shit to Roman?

Sevan Matossian (27:32):

No. Hosta. He passed Hosta.

Taylor Self (27:34):

No, I know, but do you think he was talking shit to Roman during that first bag? Carry in the 800?

Sevan Matossian (27:39):

God, I hope so. Okay, let’s go back. We have the footage of Koski going down. Look how casual that is.

Mattew Souza (27:46):

And he definitely was

Sevan Matossian (27:47):

Favoring that ankle.

Mattew Souza (27:48):

Like Caleb had said,

Taylor Self (27:50):

Oh, come on man. And now

Mattew Souza (27:53):

That doesn’t look like a leg. That looks like an ankle to me.

Sevan Matossian (27:56):

He’s holding his face. He pulled his face.

Mattew Souza (28:00):

Watch right here. Watch right here. So watch his foot. You could barely see it by the bag. And then as soon as I hit play, watch him kind of come and favor it right there. You

Sevan Matossian (28:07):

See that? Which the right one?

Mattew Souza (28:09):

Yes. His right foot. Yeah,

Taylor Self (28:10):

I think you’re right. Probably a rolled ankle.

Mattew Souza (28:12):

And then he just lifts it up and kind of like looks at it.

Taylor Self (28:14):

But the doctor’s spoken, diagnosing him. Rolling

Sevan Matossian (28:18):

Ivana. This is so a cramp. This is so a cramp. This is so a cramp.

Taylor Self (28:23):

She’s saying this is such crap. She wanted him to do better. He’s such a tramp.

Sevan Matossian (28:32):

And, okay, so then Adler, where are we? Chandler and forth. Adler closing out on Hosta. Was it the last 800? Adler finally takes a hosta and really puts it to him. What was interesting is in the interview, Adler was saying in the beginning that he was running his own race, but then at the end of the interview with Kiki Dixon, he said he was pacing off of them. I think what happened is in the beginning he was pacing and at the end Hosta slowed down. Adler basically was saying, Hey, I didn’t turn on the Afterburners. This fucking guy just gassed out. And I passed him.

Taylor Self (29:06):

Yeah, I don’t think he expected to catch Hosta. I think he thought he was satisfied with second and then all of a sudden hosts a kind of drop to anchor. Jeff is an amazing runner. Look at his technique. Look at his technique,

Mattew Souza (29:20):

But look at the gap too. He was well aware if you watched that clip, he just peeked back at Roman to see how close he was and he just looks more comfortable right there

Sevan Matossian (29:28):

And not But Susa great runner and

Taylor Self (29:34):

We don’t do, he looks like he’s almost as good of a runner as me. Yeah,

Mattew Souza (29:39):

But you said you were going to do this workout in 40 minutes.

Taylor Self (29:41):

Yeah, it would’ve taken me probably 60 minutes. I would’ve wield it five times. I would’ve teamed up with actually a 1.5 mile loop.

Jedidiah Snelson (29:48):


Sevan Matossian (29:48):

You won the swim run event at Waap Palooza, right?

Taylor Self (29:52):

Took the W in that one workout in my life.

Sevan Matossian (29:57):

I even have a note here at this point. Camera work was fantastic.

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