Rogue Day 1 | Preview show | Individual Event 1

Taylor Self (00:00):

She was just trying to help. It’s a

Sevan Matossian (00:03):

Valid input. Bam. We are live with Jedi Nelson at the top. Matt Souza, Taylor self-made training program and John Young from JY barbell if you want to get strong. Wow. Behind the scenes. I see Caleb there. No shit. Caleb, you brought your computer there. That’s awesome.

Taylor Self (00:23):


Jedidiah Snelson (00:25):

The thank way. Before we get started, I just want to let you know that I think it’s super fitting and appropriate that you have the guy on here that can’t walk to cover the running event first.

Sevan Matossian (00:35):

Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Behind your back. We’re talking crazy shit. This is part of our, we got the DEI council together. They said get the guy in the wheelchair.

Taylor Self (00:44):

What would your time be? Aya? A hundred pound ruck. I think you’d be fine

Jedidiah Snelson (00:48):

With a hundred pound ruck. Cool.

Sevan Matossian (00:51):

Hey, do wheelchair dudes ruck, where do you put, would you wheelchair dudes, ruck or

Jedidiah Snelson (00:56):

We either a vest or a backpack or we just hold it in our lap and the last time I did something like this was with a sled. I did a mile pull with a 75 pound sled and it took me almost 20 minutes.

Taylor Self (01:10):


Sevan Matossian (01:12):

That’s brutal. You pulled a 75 pound sled a mile in your chair.

Jedidiah Snelson (01:16):


Sevan Matossian (01:19):

How do you keep the chair from sliding like the wheel sliding. You turn the wheels and they don’t just get on the ground.

Jedidiah Snelson (01:25):

Every now and then you’ll break traction and it wheel, but for the most part I did it in the middle. I just had somebody with me. I did in the middle of the road so I was in perfect conditions on asphalt

Sevan Matossian (01:36):

To get

Jedidiah Snelson (01:36):


Sevan Matossian (01:37):

That would be demoralizing. It’s like a no rep. It’s like you got no rep by got no rep. I know you just spun the wheel, but no you

Taylor Self (01:44):

Don’t. God, my God. Is that what you’re

Sevan Matossian (01:45):

Going to say? My god. Yeah. No rep. No, you don’t get to go forward. Good job putting the work in. Okay, before we start, this is the 2023 Rogue Invitational event. One will start in 45 minutes. We’ll find out who goes first, the women or the men, but I just want to show you one thing. I don’t know where you get this link at, but I purchased this and then I lost it, but I found it again. Susa sent it to me. But basically what you guys want to do is you want to purchase, I guess you go to the Rogue website and you want to purchase for $25 all the packages and then you can see everything. So there’s the free stream, which you can just get on YouTube, but then there’s some sort of iron game tailgate, then there’s a drone cam, then there’s a featured athlete. Cam. Hey Laura. What’s up girl?

Taylor Self (02:30):

Oh, they have a wide cam. Wow.

Sevan Matossian (02:32):

Yeah, and then they have a wide cam. Yeah, that’s nice.

Jedidiah Snelson (02:35):

The adaptive master cam.

Sevan Matossian (02:37):

No. Nope, they don’t have one of those.

Taylor Self (02:39):

What do you think the free stream, are they going to be moving the camera on the floor? Is it just going to be stuck in one spot? I assume

Sevan Matossian (02:49):

The one that follows the athlete moves.

Taylor Self (02:53):

Do you think the free stream will be pretty similar to last year’s stream and the other cameras are just like bonus?

Sevan Matossian (02:59):

Well, we’re going to find out shortly. John, you’re muted. It doesn’t look like the paid content by the way is available today. That will start tomorrow. So maybe today we’re going to see a sneak preview and get to see all the cams. Lucky camera straps. I just got your joke. Jetted I, yes, the wide cam will be the same one you guys got at the games. Lucky camera straps Australia, $20 just paid for the Rogue Premium package. So I thought I would also pay for Chevy’s premium package. Yes, every time you give us $20 we will up the quality of our content. Okay, so I’m going to pull this down. It does look like Rogue has gone live. I don’t hear any audio. It’s just a stagnant shot. The chat has started up. We’re going to go over vet number one and we’re going to tell you who’s going to win this. And just a quick reintroduction again, Matt Suss is the owner of CrossFit Livermore. He’s in the center there and the executive producer of the podcast, Jedi Nelson is a CrossFit games athlete who’s now been banished from the games due to the new organization over there. The bald guy that does the Trump impersonations.

Taylor Self (04:10):


Sevan Matossian (04:11):

He is the owner of self-made training program and a coach at CrossFit. Charleston.

Taylor Self (04:19):


Sevan Matossian (04:20):


Taylor Self (04:22):

Thanks John.

Sevan Matossian (04:23):

And I don’t know what John. John Young is a eminently capable athlete. Full-time athlete pursuing all things CrossFit.

Taylor Self (04:32):

John’s a coach. John’s a coach. You’re a level two, right? No, I’m not a level two, but I’m a coach. Senior analyst, high level senior analyst coach. Athlete.

Sevan Matossian (04:41):

Senior analyst. Yeah, senior analyst for the Avon podcast and aspiring games athlete and man of high values and if you want to get strong, he’s the guy.

Taylor Self (04:53):

What affiliate do you coach at? It’s called Iron Antler. Iron Antler Fitness. It’s not affiliated. Oh, are you happy that it’s not affiliated with that new hire? Oh geez.

Sevan Matossian (05:06):

And then behind the scenes and then behind the scenes is Caleb Beaver and the guy from the training Think Tank who’s the face that shall not be seen.

Caleb Beaver (05:16):

He just

Taylor Self (05:16):

Stepped out.

Sevan Matossian (05:18):

The guy who makes all the cool Lexus rap this stuff, he runs the training Think Tank podcast. I think they call him C-P-T-C-P-T.

Caleb Beaver (05:27):

You know me.

Sevan Matossian (05:29):

Okay, let’s pull up the workout. The workout is, we went over it yesterday. If you didn’t see yesterday’s show, make sure you go back and watch the show. It’s event one. It’s called the Texas Heavy. It is brutal. It got rave reviews from the cast of characters that were on yesterday. Have we learned anything new about this? Do we know a time cap yet?

Taylor Self (05:50):

No. No time cap. I would imagine there’s no time cap and also coolest fucking way to go heavy,

Sevan Matossian (05:56):

But what do you mean that

Taylor Self (05:57):

It’s just so different? When you saw Texas Heavy was the title of the workout but they didn’t announce the workout. Would you have guessed this? Anything like it?

Sevan Matossian (06:05):


Taylor Self (06:05):

Right. I was thinking one day

Sevan Matossian (06:06):

Max of if we know. Oh no, I

Jedidiah Snelson (06:08):

Thought it’d be a ruck run but I didn’t know. I didn’t think it’d be that heavy.

Taylor Self (06:12):

Fuck yeah. Damn, that’s so cool.

Sevan Matossian (06:14):

But we did decide yesterday that traditionally event one at the Rogue Invitational is a run. Correct?

Taylor Self (06:22):

Traditionally is stretching it. They have done runs in the past for the first event

Sevan Matossian (06:27):

And we knew the sponsor was goruck,

Taylor Self (06:29):

Right? Right.

Sevan Matossian (06:33):

So this is the event. One mile ruck a hundred pounds. You get to then reduce the ruck to 45 pounds if you’re a male, 30 pounds if you’re a woman and you go another 800 meters half a mile and then finally you get a one mile run with just your body weight and then you pull a sled bag pool to the finish. 125 pounds for the men, a hundred for the women. Are we guessing maybe it’s up the hill even? Yeah, it’s for sure up the

Taylor Self (07:01):

Hill. I think so. They showed Katie pulling that bag up the hill backwards, so I would imagine so.

Sevan Matossian (07:06):

Yeah. Slowest time jetted I that you think we’ll see on this. You think anyone goes over an hour?

Jedidiah Snelson (07:15):

No. Do you think Danny Spiegel finishes the event?

Sevan Matossian (07:19):

Dude, I

Taylor Self (07:20):

Think they’re going to have to carry Danny Spiegel. That’s the ruck

Jedidiah Snelson (07:25):

Guys. That’s way more than

Sevan Matossian (07:28):

John. Do you seriously think she’s going to have issues finishing this?

Jedidiah Snelson (07:31):

No, I don’t think I She’ll be able to finish the event. I think she’ll be last place

Taylor Self (07:36):

Though. She’s going to be walking and then her post interview, her post event interview. I can’t believe they would make us run.

Jedidiah Snelson (07:46):

I think it’s going to be close to 40 minutes.

Sevan Matossian (07:49):

40 minutes. Taylor?

Taylor Self (07:53):

I think fastest is like 31, 32 slowest getting capped at 40 if there’s a cap. I don’t know where it says that.

Sevan Matossian (08:01):

So you think someone can do the first mile in 10 minutes, the 805 minutes, the final mile in 10 minutes in the sled, pull in another two minutes for 32 minute

Taylor Self (08:12):

I think the first mile 12 minutes.

Sevan Matossian (08:13):

No, that would be 27 minutes

Taylor Self (08:15):

I think the first mile 12 minutes, the second half mile. Five, five minutes. That’s 17 minutes. The next mile eight minutes. That’s 25 minutes. So maybe somebody goes even faster than I

Jedidiah Snelson (08:27):

Think sub 30.

Taylor Self (08:28):

Yeah, I think you’re probably right, John. Sub 30.

Sevan Matossian (08:32):

Dang. I don’t think so. I don’t think someone does sub 30.

Jedidiah Snelson (08:35):

I’m interested to see the different strategies though because I think there are some that think that they can be patient on that first mile, especially with it being so heavy and then slowly pick it up and pace it more and I think there’s others that want to get a lead and then think that they can just maintain it and kind of keep an eye on everybody. Last year Hopper made

John Young (08:54):

His move right from the jump on the first ruck run. It was like 1.2 mile ruck, 1.2 mile regular run. He’d do some bags and then it’s a two mile run to the finish. Way more endurance, but he got so far ahead of everybody in that first ruck mile. The very first one, and this is way shorter than that. There’s been a disagreement on this. Some people think the mile run is where people are going to make a move and some people think it’s just going to be from the jump. I think there’s going to be separation on the first mile ruck. I agree and I think that’s where I think it will be. You could pick people off after that, but the leaders I think

Taylor Self (09:35):

Far out. Far out ahead.

John Young (09:37):

Yes. They’re

Taylor Self (09:37):

Going to be the leaders from the start. I agree. John

Mattew Souza (09:40):

Brian spin from the barbell spin. If CrossFit measured the course, they’ll finish under 20. The shiz 30, sub 30 is possible. I

Taylor Self (09:50):

Heard they wield it

John Young (09:53):

Five times.

Mattew Souza (09:53):

Yeah, multiple times. Google Earth measured it. Hey, what do you think about that? 800 meters in there. That’s interesting, right, because if you had the mile weighted, then you had the mile unweighted. It’s like some of the bigger guys that might be able to move that weight a little bit quicker than if they dropped the pack, some of the lighter athletes would catch up, but that 800 in the middle kind of prevents that from happening.

Taylor Self (10:12):

I don’t think there’s an athlete that’s big enough in this field that’s like, oh, that’s a big athlete that can’t run. Well unloaded. I’m thinking of, okay, Brent, he’s

Mattew Souza (10:22):

Bigger Romanoff

Taylor Self (10:23):

Jason Roman, they’re bigger but they’re going to be leading the front of the run regardless. Just like they led for the most part. The five K yellow host.

John Young (10:30):

Yeah, that’s who I

Taylor Self (10:31):

Right, but he led the five K

Mattew Souza (10:33):


Taylor Self (10:33):

I think he’ll also lead.

John Young (10:35):

Yeah, but he also got fourth in

Taylor Self (10:37):

Skiba event. He also got fourth in the ski bag event and so he was good with the sandbag under a high heart rate and

John Young (10:44):

So I

Taylor Self (10:44):

Think he’ll do well with

John Young (10:45):

This one

Taylor Self (10:45):

Yellow host was four in the sandbag.

John Young (10:47):


Mattew Souza (10:49):

Great point

John Young (10:50):

John. He’s got

Taylor Self (10:51):

His fucking stats out

John Young (10:52):

Baby. He does listen. Love it. When Colin Martin’s won that I saw nobody else’s finish that I was blind to everything except that

Mattew Souza (11:03):

He’s only one person in that event. I just want to see a war at the end. I hope we see four or five people super close battling it out, changing leads during that mile run. I hope they get to that sled bag pool. I hope they underestimate how hard that’s going to be and I just want to see people war with it up that hill. I hope you’re going to hear it first. Go ahead John. I won’t forget. Go ahead. Go ahead.

John Young (11:24):

Do you remember when Kakowski fell down carrying the sandbag or not sandbag but Randy, the guy Randy, he fell down on the way back. I think a lot of people are going to fall down on the hill, not fall down the hill, but just carrying thebag and slipping where a lot of people can get passed up on that if it’s a race right, the second you fall you’re getting passed.

Mattew Souza (11:50):

What about where Adler and Koff

Sevan Matossian (11:53):

Start on this side by side and we see fucking Adler pick up right where he left off. Yep, yep. I Roman put a hand on his ruck just how much would that suck? You got a hundred pound ruck on him. Someone pats you on the back. What’s up buddy? I ad gives you five pats at 10 pounds of pat, bam, bam, ba

Jedidiah Snelson (12:11):

Bam. If Adler put a hand on my ruck during a running event, I’d

John Young (12:14):

Kick him in the fucking side and

Jedidiah Snelson (12:15):

Then he mouth

Sevan Matossian (12:17):

And lambay come put you in a fucking headlock. Lambay would eat

Jedidiah Snelson (12:19):

My butt hole. My would. I’m a little worried about Roman though, just coming off a broken foot and with a high impact of a run with that much weight. That’s one of the things I think is the coolest about this event is the after effects. It’s something that we haven’t seen before and I mean if you have anything of an ankle that’s bugging you, a knee, a hip, we talk about the load on the lower back but with the impact of the run for that long with that much weight, you could see a lot of people messed up after this event.

Sevan Matossian (12:49):

Yeah, it’s going to fuck

Jedidiah Snelson (12:50):

People up.

Sevan Matossian (12:51):

Hey, that’s a really good point. And people who don’t know that they have injuries are going to have injuries exposed to that. That’s a really good point. Let me bring up Todd Meyer’s comment here. Anyone walk that mile and smoke the rest and win it? John Young strategy? No.

John Young (13:05):

No. I just think you get too far behind if you walk it, it’s like, I dunno, I’m thinking of cycling. If you cycle up a hill really slowly, a mountain really slowly and then you try to go really fast in the flats, you’re the last person. Whoever goes up the mountain the fastest is the fastest person. I think whoever does the a hundred pound rock the fastest will be the fastest person

Sevan Matossian (13:27):

S nelson. Any gaming this one or is this like, hey, if you’re not up in the front you won’t be in the front at the end.

Jedidiah Snelson (13:33):

I think we’ll see some people try to game it. I think we’ll see some mall walking, but I don’t know that it’s going to pay off because you’re going to have to really huff it then on the 800 end of mile to catch back up

John Young (13:46):

And it’s not long enough to, if there’s significant gaps, it’s not long enough to make that distance over three miles then yeah, you can hawk people down, but one, you’re still rucking 800 meters. There’s only one mile where you can really push it and I mean if you see somebody coming, you can push that last mile. I think it’s really hard to make up a ton of ground on that part.

Speaker 7 (14:10):


Sevan Matossian (14:13):

And we’re assuming that the course is flat also, right? Do we all agree with that? We’re assuming it’s just they’re running around the stadium on grass or some sort of turf or basically no obstacles. Correct. Let’s pull up the lists and talk about who we think is going to win it. Let’s start, do we know who’s going first? The boys or the girls?

Jedidiah Snelson (14:35):

Apparently the women.

John Young (14:36):

Apparently. I’ll be interested to see how Tia does in this event. That’s the person I’m looking at the most.

Sevan Matossian (14:46):

Lemme ask you just one more question too. The other race that we looked at yesterday where it showed, we saw one of the pancakes in Fraser. Yeah, with the bag. With the bag.

John Young (14:56):

It was Hoberg. It was hoberg in that

Taylor Self (14:58):


Sevan Matossian (14:59):

Hoberg, is this going to be different because it’s a hundred pounds in the back?

Taylor Self (15:04):

We don’t know. We don’t know if it’s going to be a hundred pound backpack. What I think what I’m predicting is a 45 pound ruck for men with a 65 pound like feed sack style GORUCK bag on top. That would suck.

Sevan Matossian (15:18):

Jedediah, what do you think they’d prefer? Would they prefer all hundred pounds in the back or do they want it split up between a bag on the shoulders so they can it over their midline?

John Young (15:28):

I think it depends on the athlete. I think those that have been nursing back injuries or coming through ’em like a Bethany or a Danielle or something, probably prefer the sandbag because you can adjust some of the weight that it’s not just all on your back, but I think there’s others that would be more free to run that would just want it all in the backpack.

Taylor Self (15:46):

Taylor want all that weight in the front baby. I want that hun in the front.

Sevan Matossian (15:49):

So you don’t want a hundred pound ruck that’ll change the game.

Taylor Self (15:53):

No, I’m kidding.

John Young (15:54):

Honestly, they carry a hundred pound sandbag, just the whole mile. They have to carry What

Taylor Self (15:58):

Is ideal? What is ideal would be like a fucking framed backpack. Like a backpack with an internal frame or an external frame strapped to your waist and strapped to your chest. That would be the easiest thing, but they’re not going to let them use that. So beyond that, I would not want a regular backpack with a hundred pounds in it. I want a Yeah, like that. Like an Alice pack or some shit.

Sevan Matossian (16:21):

Is that a ruck product? No, no, it’s not a ruck. That’s what I was going to say. That’s a ruck sponsored event. So I’m on the ruck website right now and just like they do have sandbags, but their backpacks do hold a lot of weight and they have weight vests, training weight carriers, plate carriers and stuff. Do they have one that carries a hundred pounds in the back? Do they have pound ruck? I don’t. I think they do. I think yesterday we looked at it and they do

John Young (16:44):

For transition sake though, like what Taylor said, I feel like they have to have a 45 pound ruck and then it’s a 55 pound smooth

Taylor Self (16:52):


John Young (16:53):

However else, however they want to do it, whether it’s a feed sect that they’re holding or if it’s a sandbag that they’re holding or it’s another ruck that they’re holding or another sandbag in the ruck and they just take one sandbag out and then it’s done. I think it has to be a 45 pound base ruck and then we have no idea for the other 55 pounds.

Sevan Matossian (17:15):

I’m looking out at the field by the way right now. They do have the killer cage set up. It’s massive like you guys said, and I do see what looks like some bags at a starting line might be the drag bags. Yeah. Interesting. There are some bags at the starting line. I do not see any

Taylor Self (17:36):

Pull it up competitors. Can we pull it up? Can we share it

John Young (17:38):

Do you think? The feedback, like you said, I feel like that’s the worst one.

Taylor Self (17:43):

It’s the hardest to breathe with it right here. Holding it right there. It just puts all that pressure on your upper back.

John Young (17:49):


Jedidiah Snelson (17:49):

No release

Taylor Self (17:50):

Every time I’ve done a long ruck, that’s how I’ve done it with a feed sack and a ruck.

Jedidiah Snelson (17:57):

That makes sense. All in one backpack.

Sevan Matossian (17:59):

Yeah, 55 instead of

Taylor Self (18:00):

Just all in one backpack,

Sevan Matossian (18:01):

45 pound backpack. Like me

Taylor Self (18:02):

And Jason, me and Jason before semifinals left it’s year did a five K ruck at my gym. We have some brutal hills and we did it 60 pounds and I

Jedidiah Snelson (18:11):

Think we did,

Taylor Self (18:13):

I can’t remember. Oh, what we did was a 20 pound vest and the 40 pound GORUCK bag on top.

Sevan Matossian (18:22):

Alright. Jake

Taylor Self (18:24):

Berman too. We all did that together.

Sevan Matossian (18:25):

Let’s pull up the list of athletes, lucky camera straps. Will this be in any way similar to the Capitol mayor and Ricky Mack might do? Well,

Taylor Self (18:42):

I think it will. I think feel wise of the workout, it’s very similar,

Jedidiah Snelson (18:48):

But the run split up so much differently than that for a mayor that was just mostly all run to get ahead and then the weight was so much at the end, so I don’t think it’s going to play out the same. Got easier or the capital got harder as you went on? Yeah, this gets easier.

Sevan Matossian (19:09):

I’d like until you get to

Taylor Self (19:10):

The slag, pull up the hill.

Jedidiah Snelson (19:12):

Oh, I don’t think that’s going to be that hard. Oh my

Sevan Matossian (19:15):

God. John, take a cock, bro.

Taylor Self (19:17):

I don’t got Eric. I don’t think it’s going to be that.

Sevan Matossian (19:20):

What’s he have to do? Did you say take a cock? No, I said it’s hot. Take a clock, can take a cock. I was like, wow.

Taylor Self (19:26):

You take one of those too, dude. The sandbag pulled up the fucking hill. People are going to be slipping and sliding. Well, slipping and sliding. That’s

Jedidiah Snelson (19:34):

Not, I can’t help that.

Taylor Self (19:36):

Someone’s going to slip in their own feces on that dude.

Jedidiah Snelson (19:38):

They’re lower back and their quads are going to be smoked.

Sevan Matossian (19:41):

Yes. Yes. They’re low back. Have you carried a backpack with a bunch of weight on it before? More than 60 pounds, John? I have not

Jedidiah Snelson (19:49):

Low back. Not for a long time. No,

Sevan Matossian (19:51):

Dude, your low back has gone up, up

Jedidiah Snelson (19:53):


Sevan Matossian (19:53):

Low back lights up and then on top of that, if you’re not acclimated that and you haven’t been training with that and you got to go a mile and a half weighted, your quads are going to be smoked and then you got to carry that bag backwards. I get it. Hey, don’t fuck with Susa. He did the liver king challenge. Yeah, Natty too. Son Natty.

Jedidiah Snelson (20:10):

The other thing, and I know this is ironic coming from me, but I’m curious to see the footwear that they choose to go with because that’s going to make a bigger, you’d normally go with a light footwear for this long of a run, but if you do that with that much weight, you can mess your feet up.

Taylor Self (20:23):

Dude, I want to see Roman do this in fucking military boots. How much of a big

Sevan Matossian (20:27):

Dick move

Taylor Self (20:27):

Would that be? He just goes out there in some danner military

Sevan Matossian (20:31):

Boots with a sickle and hammer on the side. Yeah, dude. Yeah, I think that

Taylor Self (20:35):

Would be savage. Honestly. Dude, fucking stay true to your roots, bro.

Sevan Matossian (20:40):

Oh god. Heidi Krum. Susa is not Natty. Okay. Is she

Taylor Self (20:47):

About your what?

Sevan Matossian (20:49):

Hey, can we see the whole list? Caleb? Can we scroll through it real quick? I’ll rattle off the names pretty fast. Okay. Chandler Smith, Jeffrey Adler, pat Vellner, Roman Koff, Brent, Falkowski. When you think of these guys, think who’s going to be able to carry these big bags and run and last this 30 minutes and pepper? Ooh, all of these guys. Wow, all of these guys so far. Everybody

Taylor Self (21:10):

That you

Sevan Matossian (21:10):

Said Koski, Jake, crouch, Lazar, ju, yellow, hosta, BJO, Carl Goodmanson, Bailey Martin, will Rad, Noah Olson, Ricky M Victor, Hoffer, Travis Mayer, Tudor, Magda, Garrett Clark and Jason Hopper. Did we decide who’s going first? The boys or the girls? I

Taylor Self (21:30):

Know who’s taking last. Should we do that again this year? Do you want to take a last place? Pick first.

Sevan Matossian (21:33):

Sure. Who’s going first? Boys or girls? Girls. It looks like the girls are taking the field right now. Okay, then let’s hurry up and get through the fucking boys real quick. And you were right, it’s a sack. They got to a sack. They got a backpack plus a feed sack over their shoulders. Nice.

Taylor Self (21:44):

Nice call.

Sevan Matossian (21:45):

Yeah. Good call Taylor.

Taylor Self (21:46):

All right. Last place for the men. Tudor, Magda or Gary? Well, me and Jason literally did this workout. That’s crazy. He’ll do well. Yeah. Last place I’m taking Tudor. Sorry bud. What do you want say or Victor Hoffer. I don’t know. He’s small. Victor’s fit though, but he’s small. I know that’s heavy.

Sevan Matossian (22:06):

What’s more important to have Yoko’s legs or Jason? Hopper’s size?

Taylor Self (22:12):

Jason Hopper. Probably Jason’s size. Hopper’s going to win this. Hopper’s going to win. He’s got that third leg. Dude,

Sevan Matossian (22:18):

Jeniah. Who wins this?

Taylor Self (22:20):

I think Yale is a dark horse.

Sevan Matossian (22:22):

I agree. John Young.

Taylor Self (22:26):

I’m taking Hopper to win this

Sevan Matossian (22:28):

So Young goes with Hopper. I’m going to go with Hopper too. Who do you got Taylor.

Taylor Self (22:34):

I got Travis Mayer.

Sevan Matossian (22:35):

Good pick Jedi. We know your Dark Horse is the Mr. Hostess man who is the winner?

Taylor Self (22:43):

Him or Hopper

Sevan Matossian (22:44):

I think. Okay. And finally Matt Souza, the man who carries the weight on his back. Scroll through those names a little bit again. Caleb, take us back up to the top a little bit.

Taylor Self (22:55):


Sevan Matossian (22:56):

I’m going to say that Roman comes back and crushes this.

Taylor Self (23:00):

Roman should,

Sevan Matossian (23:00):

As long as his ankle holds out,

Taylor Self (23:02):

What ler, what LER should kill.

Sevan Matossian (23:05):

Not with

Taylor Self (23:05):

The weight. These five people. Any of these five people I think could win it. God, that’s going to be such a

Sevan Matossian (23:11):

Good race. I think Roman’s got more of a chip on his shoulder too. What about D Pepper? Man, what about dLAN? He’s a little bulldog,

Taylor Self (23:18):

But he’s not going to win it. He’s not going to win the event. I think he will be up there with them until the mile and then he just won’t be able to keep up

Sevan Matossian (23:28):

Alrightyy. So good money’s on the traditional guys. Let me just ask you this. Let me put Koski, who’s the best runner in the group? Hands down, who’s the best runner?

Taylor Self (23:37):

Maybe Will Morad or Lazar? Juki. Oh, I said Ricky. Ricky. Ricky. Probably. You’re right, right?

Sevan Matossian (23:43):

Can we all agree on that? Ricky’s the best runner. Well,

Taylor Self (23:45):

Yellow won

John Young (23:45):

The five K.

Taylor Self (23:46):


John Young (23:47):

Ricky was there

Taylor Self (23:48):

First off,

Sevan Matossian (23:49):

Ricky was at home smoking weed. That’s why.

John Young (23:51):

Yeah. Yeah. Ricky wasn’t there. He

Sevan Matossian (23:52):

Was macing boy. Yeah, he was macking.

John Young (23:56):

If you pace out, so one we all know it was not 5,000 meters, 5,000 yards. Ricky’s five K equals what? Yellow host is. 5,000 yards was,

Taylor Self (24:08):


Sevan Matossian (24:09):

I don’t even know what you just said, but who’s the best runner? So do we not agree that Ricky’s the best runner? Can we casually agree on that? Agree.

Taylor Self (24:16):

We agree. We agree.

Sevan Matossian (24:17):

Then why aren’t we? And we know he’s a fucking Hoss.

Taylor Self (24:20):

Is he?

John Young (24:21):

Because of Blast the weight makes a big

Taylor Self (24:23):


Sevan Matossian (24:24):

Dude, that sandbag shit. He does though. I mean that sandbag shit he did. I know. It was just a one rep to the shoulder was pretty fucking impressive at the games.

Taylor Self (24:31):

I don’t know. We’ll see. I just,

John Young (24:34):


Sevan Matossian (24:35):

Top three for Ricky Top three.

John Young (24:38):

He’s in the running.

Taylor Self (24:39):

It’s all about that sled drag too. That’s huge. And mass moves mass there being a heavy dude.

John Young (24:45):

Yeah. I don’t mind yellow host over Ricky in this. I really don’t. I just think Ricky’s a better runner. Unloaded.

Taylor Self (24:52):


Sevan Matossian (24:52):

Is key there.

Taylor Self (24:53):

This is just a loaded event. This is not a five K.

Sevan Matossian (24:55):

Okay. I don’t want to hear anyone talk afterwards. I picked Ricky

John Young (25:01):

Lazar is a really good runner too. He’s almost just, I mean, him and Ricky are

Sevan Matossian (25:05):

Yeah, but he’s natural. He has no chance. He’s natural. Okay, let’s go over.

John Young (25:09):

Yeah. For somebody with experience like Chandler is going to beat those guys. So

Sevan Matossian (25:13):

Chandler, is that like, Hey, he’s in the Army so he is got Ruck experience. Is it like that?

John Young (25:19):

It helps. It helps, yeah.

Sevan Matossian (25:22):

Yeah, but I just think we’ve been doing these ruck events too much. They all got Ruck experience this

John Young (25:25):

Point. They

Taylor Self (25:25):

Do. And he spent so much of his military career in a fucking tank.

Sevan Matossian (25:29):

A hybrid athlete club. Will you show the live event? No. In 19 minutes we will drop off and everyone will run to their YouTube controller and switch it to the Rogue Invitational if you don’t want to hear us. Wow. That picture they used of Tia was bad. If you don’t want to hear us now and you’d rather hear the Lone Ranger and Adrian Conway, you can switch over there now. Not recommended. Yeah, I don’t recommend it either. Okay, let’s check out. Let’s check out the women’s, no, the women aren’t starting now. What are talking about? They’re not starting.

Taylor Self (26:05):

They’re on the field. Dude. What? What? They’re starting

Sevan Matossian (26:08):

Now. They’re

Taylor Self (26:09):


Sevan Matossian (26:10):

Yeah. Everybody’s

Taylor Self (26:11):

Rushing out to

John Young (26:11):

Go. Winners in last place. Real quick. Last place. We going to say it together? 3, 2, 1. Danny Spiegel.

Taylor Self (26:16):

Oh yeah.

Sevan Matossian (26:17):

Hey you guys. I don’t see the women starting. What are you talking about? Yeah,

Taylor Self (26:20):

I don’t see that either.

Sevan Matossian (26:21):

I’m on the live stream right now. I just refreshed it. I don’t see that shit. Yeah, y’all are jumpy. Okay, let’s go to the women. Laura Horvat, Emma Lawson, Ariel Low, and Gabriela Mag. Alex Gaza. I already know who’s going to win this. Keep going. Let’s go. Emma, Carrie, Daniel, Brandon, Emily, Rolf, Tia Tomi or Karen Reva. Bethany Flores. Paige Cements a Shelby. Neil. Danny Spiegel. Manon Anese. Oh, that’s going to be a race off between Danny and Manon. That should be fun. Elena Sanaa. Katie DER’s on the screen. Christine Cohen brand. Lauren Fisher and Kyra Milligan. I’m going with Horvat and Ro.

Jedidiah Snelson (27:00):


Taylor Self (27:03):


Jedidiah Snelson (27:04):

I am excited.

Taylor Self (27:05):

I think Danielle, Brandon. Dude.

Sevan Matossian (27:07):

Daniel. Brandon for Daniel. Brandon. Third place.

Taylor Self (27:09):

I think she’s taking the dub. Dude, I’m a new man. Dude. I think Danielle Brandon’s going to win this event. I think she’s going to win Rogue. I think she’s going to go on to win the games. Big Danielle, Brandon Guy now and listen happened. What happened? Listen up big. I love Mike Halpin. Alright.

Sevan Matossian (27:23):

Damn. Danny, Brandon and Mike Halpin. The women are on the field. They are not all suited up. It’s interesting. Some of the girls have the rux on. Some of them don’t. Shelby Neil has hers on. Yep. Tina has her game face on Emma Carey’s out there in the white tear shirt. Emma. Lawson’s got the sports bra. Tia’s got the shirt tucked in. But not every, I wonder why anyone would put the ruck on now. Well, maybe to acclimate to the weight a little bit.

Jedidiah Snelson (27:53):

Get a feel for it. Maybe you’re just have the backstage. You’re just

Taylor Self (27:56):

Sitting in it though, how

Jedidiah Snelson (27:57):

They’re going to run with it.

Sevan Matossian (27:58):

Yeah. Okay. Your picks tiah, your picks for the women.

Jedidiah Snelson (28:05):

I think Laura’s got this one again. I go back to the five K and the ski bag event at the games. And she did very well on both of those. And I think Rolf is going to be there with her too.

Sevan Matossian (28:17):

Rolf’s the runner, but she’s also strong and capable and she’s not a petite lady.

Jedidiah Snelson (28:23):

Yeah. She also crushed the ruck event that one year at the games as well.

Sevan Matossian (28:29):

What are you laughing at?

Taylor Self (28:31):

Oh, that dude. I’m getting my hands dirty. I got to chill. Okay.

Sevan Matossian (28:34):

Su NEO. And now they’re all rocked up. Dang. Ariel Owen. They’re all rocked up. Bethany Flores.

Taylor Self (28:41):

Alright, well is it about a start? I don’t want to miss it.

Sevan Matossian (28:43):

Don’t worry. Chill. Hey, no one even looks labored by it. No one even looks labored by it. Alright. Who do you got? Susa. Who do you got? I got Tia. I’m taking Tia. I think she’s going to

Taylor Self (28:52):

Come out and make a statement here. And if I had to pick

Sevan Matossian (28:54):

A second choice it would be Emma Lawson. Wow. Okay. John Young.

Jedidiah Snelson (29:00):

I’m going to say Emily Rolf and Danielle. Brandon would be my

Taylor Self (29:03):


Jedidiah Snelson (29:03):


Sevan Matossian (29:03):

Okay. And last place. Who do you got?

Taylor Self (29:06):

Dude, I got Christine Cole and Brander. Fuck. I think she’s going to fucking beat Danny Spiegel for last.

Jedidiah Snelson (29:12):

It’ll be a tight battle between Spiegel and Colin Brander.

Taylor Self (29:14):

I agree.

Sevan Matossian (29:15):

And Manon.

Taylor Self (29:16):

Manon. I think Manon a head. Danny. No, I think Danny Spiegel takes the L.

Sevan Matossian (29:23):

Yeah, she does. You guys, here’s what I don’t understand. It’s not supposed to start for 16 minutes. Why do they have their rux on? They’re going to Head Start. Maybe they’re favorite. Maybe they move the time for, did we check the chat

Taylor Self (29:33):

For the weather? Maybe

Sevan Matossian (29:34):

For the weather event One starts at 5 45 right now. One minute. By the way, these bags that they’re putting on their back look like those Bulgarian, those Bulgarian

Mattew Souza (29:49):

Bulgarian bags. That’s what it’s called. Bulgarian bags. Is that what they’re called? Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (29:53):

They kind of have a little bit of that element to ’em. They have the straps on the corners.

Mattew Souza (29:57):

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Those look, by the way, when.

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