REVIEW of The Dave Castro WIR | Nov 21, 2023

Mattew Souza (00:00):

This one. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (00:01):

I love the weekend review show. I get to hang out with my boy, TDC, Susan in the house. Always need a strong affiliate on here. Went across the Livermore for the first time last week, last Saturday. Congratulations, Suzy. I can’t stop thinking about how fucking nice your gym is. It is so nice. Tall ceilings, extraordinarily clean, crazy. A pleasant crew of hundreds of people at your 10 year anniversary, all so cool. And I was watching the interaction between all the families and Dude, you killed it. Congratulations, dude. You really built something great there.

Mattew Souza (00:41):

Thank you. That’s awesome. Happy 10th, dude. Thank you. Thank you. I

Sevan Matossian (00:45):

Went to either Gru’s,

Bill Grundler (00:48):

You did

Sevan Matossian (00:49):

10th or 15th?

Bill Grundler (00:50):


Sevan Matossian (00:52):

I went with Greg.

Bill Grundler (00:53):

Yeah, you went there with Greg and then right after that you got on the road. So it was the sickest dude. It was so cool. We had Greg give a 3, 2, 1 go to do Fran as our first workout of 24 hours of workouts that we did for the 10th anniversary. That’s right.

Mattew Souza (01:09):

Oh wow.

Bill Grundler (01:10):

Yeah, it was really cool. Was really cool. And then after you guys, you guys hopped in the, I think you wrote in the Escalade, I think after that actually, wasn’t it? You took off in the Escalade.

Sevan Matossian (01:21):


Bill Grundler (01:22):

You went out to Goodyear, out to CrossFit Fury for their tenure.

Sevan Matossian (01:27):

Who’s that? Who’s CrossFit Fury?

Bill Grundler (01:29):

It was. It’s not anymore. He sold it. It was, oh shit. Yeah. Subbury. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Sevan Matossian (01:39):


Bill Grundler (01:39):

2 0 9. Fuck dude. Like 2009, 2010 games.

Sevan Matossian (01:47):

I’m going to feel stupid for not remembering too.

Bill Grundler (01:50):

I’m going to feel stupid for not remembering.

Sevan Matossian (01:52):

We did go to Subbury 10 year speaking of a big gym.

Mattew Souza (01:56):

Yeah, that’s huge.

Sevan Matossian (01:59):

That’s got to be the biggest gym, right?

Mattew Souza (02:01):


Bill Grundler (02:02):

Dude, it’s giant. Yeah.

Mattew Souza (02:04):

I mean, they have an indoor 200 meter track.

Sevan Matossian (02:07):

It’s 50,000 square feet I think.

Bill Grundler (02:09):

I’m not joking. It’s massive. It’s massive.

Sevan Matossian (02:12):

And by the way, when I say that, I mean you walk into a room and there’s the gym and it’s one room and it’s 50,000 square feet.

Mattew Souza (02:21):


Bill Grundler (02:21):

Fucking gym.

Sevan Matossian (02:22):

I don’t mean it’s 15 different rooms. Someone’s like, I have 8,500 square feet and you go to their fucking gym. It’s a puzzle,

Bill Grundler (02:29):


Sevan Matossian (02:31):


Mattew Souza (02:34):

Motherfucker’s elaborate.

Sevan Matossian (02:35):

I lived in an 800 square foot house. That was three bedroom ones. Come on.

Bill Grundler (02:42):

It was massive. They did the NC in there one year.

Mattew Souza (02:46):

Yeah, I’m

Bill Grundler (02:46):

Trying to bring inside there. They had a race inside. They had the indoor track, the NorCal Classic.

Sevan Matossian (02:54):

Oh wow. Is that it?

Mattew Souza (02:57):

Yeah. None of these pictures do it

Sevan Matossian (02:58):

Justice. Yeah, yeah. His gym is so big. Okay, here. I’m seriously going to say this. His gym is so big you can’t see across to the other side. You can’t ID people. No, you cannot. Yep. That’s how big it is. That’s true. Right? Oh wait, we lost, where did we fucking lost Bill? Bill? We may have booted you. I didn’t boot. Did I boot him? I could boot him. Oh shit. Yeah. Look, if you guys look at this photo, byebye. Hey, did we boot you, bill?

Bill Grundler (03:25):

No, no, no. I was trying to find CrossFit Fury and then I Oh,

Sevan Matossian (03:30):

Peter Edge. Fuck my God. We’re going to burn in hell. Oh my God. So

Bill Grundler (03:36):

Bad. I know. Yeah. It was right after that. It was cool.

Sevan Matossian (03:40):

Good guess Mr. Howell. Bill Gunner played some part in, introduced me to CrossFit. I always tell a story that it was some other guy who introduced me to CrossFit, but the truth is that actually, now that I think about it, I’ve never thought about this until just now. November 21st, 2:14 PM 2023, a bill actually introduced me to it, but I didn’t listen. I was probably drunk way, way, way back.

Bill Grundler (04:11):

Is that when you came back from doing the arm wrestling movie?

Sevan Matossian (04:16):

Yeah. That’s when, I mean, I

Bill Grundler (04:18):

Met you that night. I met you the same night that I met my youngest daughter’s mom that

Sevan Matossian (04:27):

Same night. What year do you think that was? You think that was 2004,

Bill Grundler (04:30):

5, 3, 2. That was probably 2005, somewhere around there. 2004, 2005.

Sevan Matossian (04:40):

Yeah. Crazy. I was a senior in high school.

Bill Grundler (04:43):

Dang. I woke up, me and Chad, because that’s why he showed up, because Chad Wistrom, captain Chad as is now. We ended up, we had that party. It was for my birthday, had a bunch of the firefighters, a bunch of people there. We ended up going to the little local dive bar, the Shell Beach Little, and we ended up passing out. Me and Chad passed out in your little motor home, your little Winnebago with your two great Danes in there. Woke up to your Danes licking me in the face in the morning.

Sevan Matossian (05:22):

3, 3, 3. Was it three of them? I think so. I had three. Crazy. Yeah. Holy shit, dude. Can you imagine how good it must have out there? Me grundler, another grown ass man and three dogs in a motor home on the side of the highway. Dude or frontage road. Oh my goodness. Every week we are granted the privilege and honor to get direct correspondence from one of the longest practitioners of CrossFit still working at CrossFit hq. Probably it’s fair to say the second longest practitioner who’s worked there, definitely the second longest working person there. I think after Nicole Carroll, he has done so much, not only for this country, but for the sport, for the training methodology even. I don’t know, just to throw a little bit of trivia in there. Even when he got fired, when people would ask him what he misses, he wouldn’t even mention the games. He’d mentioned the training team, and you can see that in interviews. Although he truly loves the game and just a great dude, and he does this thing every week. It’s called the week and review, and it’s the Dave Castro speaking. I don’t even know if it’s the official word of CrossFit or what it is. We don’t even know what it is, but it’s just gangster shit. It’s kind of one of the things that still makes me feel like this thing is mom and pop and still OG and gritty. Right? It’s the hard shit.

Bill Grundler (06:52):

But it’s how he says it though. It’s how he says what he says. It’s Dave talking. It’s not an ai. It’s not a glossed up, shined up corporate guy. It’s Dave. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (07:06):

Peace from a third party,

Bill Grundler (07:08):


Sevan Matossian (07:09):

It’ss not corporate talk.

Bill Grundler (07:12):

Yeah. Well, no, he’s talking his version, his view from the corporation of, but it’s not a, it’s just Dave. I mean it’s very matter of fact.

Sevan Matossian (07:31):

Let me tell you what it sounds like. The people sound like who Dave probably works with. This is what I’m guessing.

Speaker 4 (07:37):

Listen to this. It’s like everyone’s a robot. Everything they say, everyone’s always like, let’s get the ball rolling. Keep the ball rolling. We don’t work at a bowling alley. That’s the only person.

Sevan Matossian (07:46):

Get ready. Here we go. Watch this.

Speaker 4 (07:48):

Get the ball rolling. Dude, it was tiresome.

Sevan Matossian (07:54):

Everyone, listen, who works in corporate America? This guy’s about to hit it out of the park. These are the people. This is what it’s like working at most places. And Dave does not talk like this.

Speaker 4 (08:03):

I think I got a text message. I got thing. I got a text message saved from my boss, dude, actual text message from a former boss who shall be unnamed, terrible human being. Hey team, let’s touch base on the deliverables for the upcoming project. We need to prioritize the low hanging fruit first. Then let’s take a deep dive to create innovative solutions. We need to make sure we leverage our core competencies and synergize with other departments. We need to be proactive, not reactive, but proactive. When it comes to thinking outside the box to drive home our key results. Remember, we are aiming for maximum ROI in seamless integration. Let’s go ahead and circle back next week to ensure we’re,

Sevan Matossian (08:46):

I’m not joking. The three months before they fired me, it shifted from Greg Glassman to this, and I actually watched some of my peers adapt. I was like, wow, you’re adapting to this. It was crazy. But that’s the way they talk. And Dave doesn’t talk. Wouldn’t you say that’s fair? Do you know any people like this bill?

Bill Grundler (09:12):

Do I know people that talk like that? Yeah, totally.

Sevan Matossian (09:14):

That language that it’s just nothing talk.

Bill Grundler (09:16):

Right? Those are the meetings to have meetings about having meetings, to have meetings. Meetings. And dude, I’m not good at those. Not good

Mattew Souza (09:27):

At those. I used to think you had to talk that way to be taken seriously in business.

Sevan Matossian (09:31):

Me too. That’s what I actually thought that for a minute too. When Greg sold the company and the people came in, I’m like, wow, I don’t understand what they’re saying. And then I’m like, oh shit. These motherfuckers are saying nothing

Mattew Souza (09:41):

Are, yep. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (09:43):

Where’s the beehive? I want to get some honey. Well, let’s talk about the deliverables. And before I give you that, it’s like, geez, Brian, honey,

Mattew Souza (09:50):

It’s find the workflow in the system here. Sev. Are you properly following it?

Bill Grundler (09:56):

That sounded like that literally was like if you were to use chat GBT and you were to write, okay, I need an intro email or message to my team to discuss how we’re going to bring up topics about whatever. And that’s probably what it kick out. Kenneth AI wrote that. Heck, yeah, exactly. That’s exactly what it sounds like.

Sevan Matossian (10:14):

Some people eat that shit up. Yeah, it’s crazy. Who? Oh, did you see my text to you and Wiki?

Mattew Souza (10:23):

Oh, yes, yes, I did see that. And I will adjust his Wednesday. I’ll probably keep it on the Wednesday. Just move it out a week.

Sevan Matossian (10:30):

Yeah. Fuck. I feel so bad. I dunno if I feel bad that I moved the schedule with him. We had a podcast with Wiki tomorrow. I forgot. It’s my son’s birthday tonight and tomorrow night I got twins.

Bill Grundler (10:40):

Oh, way to go, dude.

Sevan Matossian (10:42):

Yeah. Good job, dad.

Mattew Souza (10:46):


Bill Grundler (10:50):

All that? Three sons playing crap. And you forget the birthday, but you got them doing shoulder press on a wobble board. That’s good. Which is sick, by the way.

Sevan Matossian (11:01):

I like that. Okay, so as Bill was saying, it’s Dave talk. It’s not, and I’m saying it’s not that talk.

Mattew Souza (11:11):


Sevan Matossian (11:13):


Bill Grundler (11:14):

You think that long

Sevan Matossian (11:14):

You and I have ever been quiet with both of us in the same room? I’m like, there’s no fucking, I’m talking first. Viki. I’m so sorry. Viy. Viy. Vey. Vey. So sorry. Such a douche. Sorry. I’m such a douche. Go ahead, bill.

Bill Grundler (11:29):

I was just going to say for anyone that’s been around a while, that’s kind of that comforting feel. That’s why I like listening to your shows with classmates. It’s the same thing. Greg could be talking about nothing. I just like the way he sounds when he’s talking. So it’s good with Dave. It’s very matter of fact. And one of the things that a lot of people were always, they would talk if they were talking bad about Dave, they’re like, he’s a douche bag, he’s an asshole. He’s a this, he’s a that. And it’s like, no, he’s just, matter of fact, here’s what it is. Here’s what we’re doing. Here’s what’s happening. Done not well. I’m trying to make everybody feel better or is everyone going to be okay with, or I think we’re going to try. It’s like, no, this is what we’re doing because we have to go this way. And with his positions in the military, you had to be that way. And he didn’t accept a lot of questioning about it because in his world, you didn’t have that. That wasn’t an option. I’m going to be the leader. I’m going to lead you down the course. Yeah, talk. You can’t

Sevan Matossian (12:30):

Talk like that if you’re fucking planning. By the way, I just lowered everyone’s volume, by the way, so you guys can hear Dave better. I just lowered Bill, Susan, myself. You can’t talk like that. If you’re fucking giving coordinates on how to fucking where someone is at Target to kill, there’s no information in there. None. And none of those people, all these people are carrying guns, driving planes, flying helicopters, fucking packing parachutes. They actually can do shit. The people who talk like that, they’re incapable of anything. They can’t even fucking blower their pants to pull their dick out. They’re completely incapable of doing shit. They are. They’re incapable, they’re, they’re not human. They’re not men. What’s the NPC? Non playable,

Bill Grundler (13:12):

Non-player character. Damn.

Sevan Matossian (13:14):


Bill Grundler (13:15):

This guy,

Sevan Matossian (13:17):

I used that the other day and what’s his name? Laughed at me Branstetter. He’s like, fuck, you’re Gen Z. Gen Z douche. Okay, here we go. At 1.25 speed. The Dave Castro, we can review. Thank you Dave.

Bill Grundler (13:33):

He’s muted

Speaker 5 (13:34):

As always. We’re going to start off with comments. Do you want to blow up and take from there at Mike 41? Hi, Dave. As an affiliate owner since 2008, I’m concerned about franchise talk going around Hiller, any truth or insight on this? Thanks for all you do. And then Hillary,

Sevan Matossian (13:51):

Who said that? Hiller said

Bill Grundler (13:52):

That dude. Yeah, he had a whole video on it. Oh,

Sevan Matossian (13:55):

Oh, yeah, yeah. Okay. Okay. But that wasn’t Hiller who wrote it in?

Bill Grundler (13:58):

No, the guy was pointing a lot of franchise talk, Hiller’s talking about it, caught by

Sevan Matossian (14:02):

Their word. Okay.

Speaker 5 (14:04):

It’s all about control. Look for that. Hey, hiller’s wrong. This is not about control. The last thing we want to do is control any of, or all of the affiliates. Do we want to have a business relationship with them? That sets us all up for success. Absolutely. Do we want to control the affiliates? Not at all. Back to Mike 40 one’s question, concerned about all this franchise talk going around. And then in parentes, you put Hiller any truth or insight on this? There is zero discussion or zero talk using a franchise model or turning affiliates into franchisees that would entirely modify the model and it would entirely upend our amazing community and affiliate owners who have fostered this community over the years. So there are no near term or long-term plans with this current leadership to do anything around affiliation. The reason I say near term and then I add the long-term is because in several years all of us could be somewhere else. In a decade it’s going to all be somewhere else and maybe someone else down the road has plans or not now, but someone else down the road turns it into, wants to turn into a franchise. But now next several years, none of our team is talking about franchise using franchise.

Sevan Matossian (15:18):

Okay, couple quick things I want to say. He says no one on our team is talking about that. Clearly the people on the team are talking about it because even just how, I forget exactly what it was, but when Koon sent that thing out to the affiliates or that letter went out, it talked about what he was going to help the affiliates do, and it sounded like a franchise. It was like he’s going to make sure that things are kept up to standards. It was words that we don’t use. It was like, whoa, shit. That’s stuff you would say to a franchise. We’re going to make sure that you’re kept up to your standards or your quality. It was weird. The second thing is, I love hearing Dave say this. I believe Dave and I fucking love it, and it’s great. Good job. I think he believes it.


I trust him. Third thing, if I’m going to sell you a horse and I have a ranch and I tell you, Hey, that horse is, you come to buy the horse, and you’re like, how much for the horse? I’m like, it’s $10. And they said, why is it so cheap? I said, because a wild stallion and it’s out there somewhere on my 50,000 acres. You’re like, okay, $10, good deal. But if I can bring that horse within five acres, I can now charge you 50 bucks. If I can now get even more control over that horse and I can show you that it’s in this stable and you can get on it now I can charge you $2,000. If I can show you that a kid can ride it as a professional riding horse, now I got a horse that’s $20,000. Do I think that the people who own HQ want to have more control over the horse so that they can increase its value? They’d be stupid not to. And like Greg says, I think they have a fiduciary duty. So a lot of, but I’m glad Dave’s saying that. Any thoughts, Mr. Grundler on what he just said?

Bill Grundler (16:47):

I think CrossFit has been in a weird place in general with all the switching the tadd, but one of the, and Susan, you probably heard a lot of this stuff too, is you have affiliate owners on both sides of the fence. One of what is HQ going to do for me? Why am I paying this affiliate fee? What are they doing for me? They’re not doing anything for me. I should be able to have this and they should be doing these things and those things and that thing and this thing and those things. And then the other side of the fence is the original setup that Greg wanted, which is, okay, you’re licensing the name, go make great things happen. Go do good CrossFit and make people’s lives better. And where that’s where I sit on that side is I don’t want anyone telling me anything to do.


I don’t necessarily want to pay a lot of extra money for nothing. I don’t want to do that either, but that’s where it gets really weird. It’s like, okay, so then where do you put that mark? Then if you’re not, I don’t think it has to be either licensing the name affiliate and then full-blown McDonald’s franchise where everything’s the same color. You wear the same shirts, you have the same menu, you coach the same way, same hourly classes, whatever. I think that there are some things that maybe they could do to assist. Cool. But I think that’s where it gets really weird. And because no one is saying exactly what it looks like, everyone’s filling in the gaps. And that’s one of the problems, the surveys

Sevan Matossian (18:13):

To people.

Bill Grundler (18:13):

Yeah. Well, I mean totally. If on the survey it says franchisee affiliate or franchisor and the affiliate or whatever the names are, okay, well, you’re only giving us two options. So what else would it be? Either we are what we are now, which are affiliates, or it’s something else which is franchise and everyone knows franchisees this. So if that’s not the case, I mean, I think Dave even says it in there that he’s like, maybe we should have vetted the words on there a little bit better. Well, yeah, or just have you guys write it and send it to us so I know it’s coming from you instead of Mustafa or whatever the guy’s name was.

Sevan Matossian (18:49):

You’re not stupid if you think Uhoh thinking about doing a franchise is our point. It’s not like you’re, oh my God, you’re way out there.

Bill Grundler (18:56):

Right. No, I mean it says

Sevan Matossian (19:00):

Then if

Bill Grundler (19:00):

The word is on there, why would I not think that that’s a possibility? And new

Sevan Matossian (19:04):

Owners and private equity and all that stuff.

Bill Grundler (19:07):

Yeah, I get it.

Mattew Souza (19:09):

I get it. It’s not a big leap. I was going to say, I agree with Olivia here. That horse analogy was fantastic. That was really good. And I think the difference that we’re all thinking about here is whenever a license model inserts any control, any level of control, Hey, we saw that you didn’t have the proper safety thing out when people ran, right? Even something as small as that changes that model legally, it’s now would be documented as a franchise as opposed to a license model. So I think in terms, when we think franchise, we think they’re going to immediately come in and say, Hey, your front desk has to be here. You have to wear this polo that says this and have to operate by a certain way. And it doesn’t necessarily mean that it has to immediately go to McDonald’s. It could just say that they’re going to start to implement some sort of operational standard. And the reason why I use that word operational standard is because that was the word that was directly in Koons LinkedIn bio as to what his job and position was at CrossFit. So

Sevan Matossian (20:05):

Again, we’re not used to hearing,

Mattew Souza (20:07):

We’re not used hearing that at all. So I’m just kind of connecting the dots between what is being put out right now. And if it wasn’t for Dave, I believe he’s the last line of defense against the media space CrossFit in the community. Because without Dave’s weakened reviews right now, CrossFit have no means to answer these questions or defend themselves as a company. So I just wanted to point that out. But the big question begs is using Chevon’s analogy is, okay, so when do they start training the horse and how do they start training the horse? You

Sevan Matossian (20:39):

Got to bring him up against HQ first, right? They got to bring him home, they got to get him out of the field.

Mattew Souza (20:43):

No point, they have to do something. And if that’s not it, I would rather, I’d rather see us be reactive here rather or proactive rather than reactive with our messaging to increase our RO. I would think that if CrossFit has to stop saying we’re not doing, we’re not doing, we’re not doing, and just lay out the fucking plan already.

Sevan Matossian (21:03):

Let’s keep going. We got a lot of show to watch. I do want to say this one thing. If you want to go with the horse analogy, the big call to dinner for all the horses out there, the stallions on the 50 acres to always come back to HQ is the open, which is interesting. It’s nothing else. It’s just the open

Speaker 5 (21:20):

Anti stock. Now, this is coming from that survey that went out that we use a third party. We didn’t write the survey or send a survey out a third party who was doing work with us to kind of collect information to advise us on business strategies in relation to

Sevan Matossian (21:37):

A little disingenuous there. Dave, I know you’re talking fast and I know that it’s just off the cuff, but you’re saying you didn’t send it out when you hire someone to send it out. You did send it out, but we’ll let that slide. We get

Speaker 5 (21:49):

It. The affiliate model and affiliate relationship with us, they sent that survey out and yes, they used word franchise word, and so maybe you can make an argument. We should have vetted that or probably taken that word out or not allow them to send it with that language. But again, third party, they did it the way they needed to collect the information they wanted. And

Sevan Matossian (22:16):

Another thing we’ve never been used to, Greg would’ve never let a third party ever spam the affiliates ever.

Speaker 5 (22:24):

It went out like that. But again, I will say this hiller’s wrong, this talk of franchise is wrong. There is no intent to do anything with affiliates transitioning them to or making them into a franchisee of us.

Sevan Matossian (22:42):


Mattew Souza (22:44):

You want to go first, bill? Or should I?

Bill Grundler (22:47):

Yeah, I’ll go. Okay. Obviously we know that they’re looking at some sort of a price increase and I think they, they’re circling around ways of how they can make that justifiable. And I think that’s where everyone’s getting lost because there’s this wishy-washy of all these questions. I mean, it makes everybody uneasy obviously, because everyone’s going to think the worst. And then everyone is then backed up against wall about like, okay, well then where are the loyalties now? What are we trying to do? Are we in this group together or am I going to have to fend for myself?


And that’s something that we’ve always had. We’ve always, as affiliated owners, we always have dealt with that. Is it when things get really gnarly? Is it CrossFit at CrossFit Livermore or CrossFit inferno, or is it Matt’s sosa’s CrossFit at CrossFit Livermore and my CrossFit here at CrossFit Inferno when we’re doing that and do we kind of double down on the way we do it on our stuff? Because there’s all this other noise that’s going on in the background. But I think because of all the questions of all that, it’s just swirling and because it swirl so much that the swirl is the same thing as that one dude’s text message that he got. All the words are there, but nothing is being said. And it forces us to fill in the blanks. And whenever that happens, that’s when things get bad,

Sevan Matossian (24:20):

Mr. Susa.

Mattew Souza (24:21):

Yeah. Well, I appreciate Dave doing these. Last time somebody left a comment and said, Dave and Susa just agree with Dave, which I thought was kind of funny. And on these ones here, I’m not going to as much. That’s scary. They sent out something that they didn’t vet, and if they did vet it, how out of touch with the community do you have to be to realize that this is going to raise a lot of red flags, especially with your seasoned affiliate owners, and we’re going to create a stink out of it. So that just kind of scares me. It’s like, who vetted it? Why didn’t it get vetted? How would you just allow this to spam the affiliates without knowing what that would do with the community? Just seems a little out of touch. And one last thing I’ll say is as far as Dave doing this, and I appreciate it is because he’s walking a fine line. We don’t really know, and this isn’t the place for, but we don’t really know his personal opinions on these. He has to kind of defend the company in a sense. That’s his job. That’s who he’s hired there, and he’s obviously trying to make things right there as much as he can within his control, but he’s also trying to manage these questions that are coming in. And that’s a really tough position, and I hope it doesn’t in turn damage any of his straightforwardness in terms of the reputation. I think that’s

Bill Grundler (25:32):

One of the things he’s always been good at though, is walking that line. I mean, the Duke didn’t dumped on before and never once, at least publicly. Has he ever said, fuck that place?

Mattew Souza (25:43):

No. No. And he doesn’t say

Sevan Matossian (25:46):

Even when he got fired, he hung in there and

Bill Grundler (25:47):

What did he do? Yeah, he just went into, he started posting all the shooting stuff. He’s like, ah, you would’ve never thought that anything was wrong. Yeah,

Mattew Souza (25:54):

I appreciate that, but I just hope it doesn’t backfire in terms of public relations between the community and Dave and the community and CrossFit.

Sevan Matossian (26:03):

Gastro sevy. I got my Slack block yesterday. Excellent piece of equipment. Awesome. That’s good to hear, dude. I still got to send out all those free ones that are sitting on my kitchen table. Thanks dude, for the feedback. Yeah, I like it too. I spent a lot of time on it. Okay, Mike Albin says he later goes on to say he wouldn’t work at CrossFit if they did this model. Well, here we go. Here we go. Oh shit. Plastic Topo Chico, never forgive you for that.

Speaker 5 (26:32):

And there’s been other discussions on that lately at the Dallas Fort Worth, a Philly gathering. They talked about that. And so I just want to help you guys understand that that’s not the case. Okay, let’s move on to the next one. At Matt Burns

Sevan Matossian (26:44):

Seven, we don’t understand, but we believe you. We still don’t understand. We don’t understand anything, but we believe you. Like the way the minions would believe they’re king. Don’t worry, we’re building a wall around the castle to keep the dragon out. Okay? We believe Dave, right? But no one understands if

Bill Grundler (27:08):

It was anybody else saying it, imagine it would be a shit show. I mean, that’s the thing. When Dave talks, it’s like, I mean, here we are. It’s like, okay, man, I don’t know what the heck’s going on right now, but alright, KA, tell me where to go. We’ll go.

Sevan Matossian (27:27):

He’s telling us you didn’t see the boogeyman. We’re like, all right,

Bill Grundler (27:32):

You sharing, you hope you’re not lying to me. That comment and writing that line and hope it doesn’t do anything to the reputation there.

Sevan Matossian (27:40):


Speaker 5 (27:41):

Hey, Dave, thanks for doing these. What do you think will come first s behind the scenes or the next Ice age? Definitely the next ice age. Oh

Bill Grundler (27:47):

Shit. Oh shit,

Sevan Matossian (27:52):

That’s not true. They always come out somewhere between January and the open. Oh, shit.

Speaker 5 (27:58):

At Sergio Brito, 95. Are you programming semifinal workouts for 2024 or as a group of people, and you guys discussed it? Bos leads that effort. He and he will do it with his team. I will look at them. I will get feedback. Ultimately though, Boaz is programming the semifinal Bosman team. His team are programming the semifinal workouts.

Sevan Matossian (28:17):

Adrian Bosman is programming the semi-final workouts. Has anyone ever programmed semi-final workouts or the regional workouts or that section of the year? Has he ever said that before? I know, I think he said Pat Sherwood at one point was programming the masters, but have we ever known Dave to say that? To say someone else’s programming the semifinals or the regionals?

Bill Grundler (28:40):

Well, last year.

Sevan Matossian (28:42):

Well, I’m sorry. Besides that, besides when he wasn’t there.

Bill Grundler (28:46):

No. No.

Sevan Matossian (28:47):

And what about this continuity that’s needed between the quarterfinals, the regionals, and the games? Sorry, the open, the quarterfinals, the semifinals, and the games. What about this continuity that’s needed?

Bill Grundler (29:01):

Didn’t the question say, would you be programming the semis specifically?

Sevan Matossian (29:07):

Yeah. And he said, no, Adrian is.

Bill Grundler (29:08):

Okay, so maybe he was just answering that. So it’s not like who’s going to be programming the different stages

Sevan Matossian (29:14):

Of, so you think Adrian’s going to program at all? They open the quarterfinals, the semifinals, and the games. Dude,

Bill Grundler (29:19):

The way it has to be is that the team has to go all the way through. If you split it up, then you get the chunky brokenness that’s been going on the last handful of times. So I’m hoping that it’s, and with him,

Sevan Matossian (29:32):

That’s the way they now. And that’s what I brought up on the get with the programming. I was there, you almost had my back

Speaker 5 (29:41):

At demo thesis. I’m a huge Dave cashier fan, but your answer to unknown and unknowable is completely divorced from the original meaning of that phrase. The original intent was to prepare you for the unknown and unknowable, ie. Pursuing a criminal on foot, running into a burning building, lifting a car off of a train track, et cetera. It has become a gimmick, gimmick, a shtick, a crutch. There is no reasons why the game has to operate.

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