REVIEW of The Dave Castro WIR Jan 22nd, 2024

Sevan Matossian (00:01):

Bam. We’re live guys, what’s up? Don’t have a second monitor today, I did purchase one. Greg and I cruised down to Best Buy in Cour d’Alene. And of course the guys there told me what to get. And I’m so much smarter than 99% of people when it comes to Mac shit. And I knew it wasn’t going to work, but the kid there insisted and it’s like, didn’t work. Well, I’m a $7,000 monitor Mac type of guy, you know what I mean? I put the thousand dollars fucking aluminum laser stand. I know my shit. I got all the Mac stuff, everything, and I shouldn’t have listened, but I was desperate. So now I have, there’s this, you know, there’s an HDMI cable that I’ve never seen before that came with this monitor. It’s not symmetrical. You guys ever seen an asymmetrical HDMI cable?

Matthew Souza (00:50):

No. I don’t know what that looks like.

Sevan Matossian (00:53):

Yeah, it’s bizarre. Anyway, I’ll crack the code on it, but now I’m going to have to order some sort of adapter. I knew it didn’t have USPC. Oh, nope. And it doesn’t fit the HDMI in the MacBook Pro. He’s like, of course it will work on the MacBook Pro. Like

Tyler Watkins (01:12):


Sevan Matossian (01:12):

Long is it? That’s not an HDMI, my guy. What is that? What would you say that is? Yeah, what is that thing? Hold on, lemme show you this thing. How long has it been since he operated with one monitor?

Matthew Souza (01:25):

Never. Usually it’s always with the second monitor. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He got up when he got up to the house, he was like, fuck. I was on the phone with him when he is setting up and he is like, damn, I just realized I slept my second monitor. Which is crucial when traveling, because if you’re working off that laptop and you try to share something, it just covers you. You What’s ironic about this shirt is it’s a gray shirt, like the benchmark workout, and you see how it’s got the marks here from the bar from

Sevan Matossian (01:49):

Dumbbells. Will, what is this thing? Look at this thing.

Matthew Souza (01:54):

What the fuck?

Sevan Matossian (01:55):

It’s an atric. It’s an ace. It should be bent. See how it bends down on both sides or on this side? But not on this side. Display port cable. It’s called the display port cable. Some Microsoft shit, some PC shit. Here I’m sitting with retard gaming computer. Shit, that’s super video. Well, whatever it is, I’m not happy. Okay. I shouldn’t have got, I should, it’s a Samsung. I should have just ordered something from Apple. Not CEO. Shit. I love Samsung shit. Yeah, I like the Samsung tv. Dave Castro came out with a weekend review today. Boy, I’ve never gotten so many. I text messages about it. I did text Dave. I’m like, Hey, what’d you say today? Wow. What did you say today?

Matthew Souza (02:56):

I haven’t watched it at all. Have you watched it, Tyler?

Sevan Matossian (02:59):

Yeah. I always get in

Matthew Souza (03:00):

Trouble for watching it before we do it. You got to react live. I haven’t seen anything. Haven’t seen anything. Also,

Sevan Matossian (03:06):

You guys have a super duper great treat coming on this evening. It looks like today at six 30 we will have the nations, the United States of America, their greatest border reporter.

Matthew Souza (03:20):

Oh, your guy

Sevan Matossian (03:21):

Is coming on. He’s at the border. We’re about to find out firsthand what is going on at the border and he’ll explain all that shit to us. So Jorge Ventura.

Matthew Souza (03:30):

Oh man, I’m so bummed. So that should be cool. I’m stoked about it, but I’m bummed I won’t be able to be there for it,

Sevan Matossian (03:37):

Man. Man. Oh man. Who in their fucking right mind would vote for Biden. What

Matthew Souza (03:44):

A, he’s a nice guy. He’s a nice guy. And you know what I respect, you’d rather have a nice guy than a divider. Than a divider.

Sevan Matossian (03:50):

He’s really been through a lot.

Matthew Souza (03:52):

Yeah, and look at the way he tends to

Sevan Matossian (03:54):

Happen when you’re 70,000

Matthew Souza (03:56):

Years old, you tend to go through a lot.

Sevan Matossian (03:57):

He’s been through a lot.

Matthew Souza (04:00):

He’s just got the reps in.

Sevan Matossian (04:02):

I believe his name is pronounced George. Fucking racist. They racist. Ken.

Matthew Souza (04:08):

Okay. Kenneth?

Sevan Matossian (04:09):

Yeah. Mr. White guy. Okay. Behind the scenes, episode six is up. Previews for episode seven have been sent to Mike. 3000 of my closest friends.


It looks like for those of you who want to see the behind the scenes, episode seven on Wednesday, you will not be. And you can blame Susa for that because Susa in the discussion today is suggesting that we put the behind the scenes from Waap Palooza made by Patrick Rios, which is going to blow you guys away. That will go Wednesday for members. And then on Friday you will get another behind the scenes seven. And then Monday we’ll be back on schedule. In a way, you have to wait an extra two days for seven, but it’s not going to push out eight. So you’re kind of stoked there. And then you get the bonus Guap Palooza. If you’re stoked, thank me. If you’re not stoked, blame me.

Matthew Souza (05:06):

Blame me. I think it’s a damn good deal. It’s a damn good deal.

Sevan Matossian (05:10):

Thank you, Edgar. Oh, sorry.

Matthew Souza (05:13):

Oh, oh, my bad, my bad. I got you. That’s good.

Sevan Matossian (05:15):

Edgar Lozano eats pasta. I was finally able to catch up with the behind the scenes and I’m loving it. You guys are killing it. I can’t imagine what you guys can accomplish with more resources. Mind blowing. Yeah. Thanks man. I don’t dunno how, let’s say we have 400 comments on the behind the scenes and it’s not one negative, it’s just nothing negative. It is so cool. And I’ve been watching some other people’s behind the scenes and they’re not behind the scenes. They’re recaps, they’re self flagellation. Is that what that is there? And I’m with the self-flagellation and I’m okay with recaps, but they’re not recaps. Yeah. The reason why So now this is not only the best behind the scenes, it’s the only behind the scenes, which makes it obviously the best behind the scenes.

Matthew Souza (06:09):


Sevan Matossian (06:09):

Heard Dawn fall neutralized and I feel it today. Yeah, I saw that. I saw, I dunno if it was today, but I saw Frank had made a post affiliate collective guy had made a post saying Don had, I forget the exact post, but kicked him to the curb.

Matthew Souza (06:29):

That’s happened. A couple affiliates I’ve seen recently. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (06:33):

Who else got kicked to the Curb?

Matthew Souza (06:36):

Wasn’t there? I thought there was another one. I might be mistaken.

Sevan Matossian (06:40):

There was another one. Sorry, that was the guy. A beehive. CrossFit.

Matthew Souza (06:45):

Yeah. Okay. Oh, he got kicked.

Sevan Matossian (06:47):

Yeah. Yeah, that guy got kicked. That guy.

Matthew Souza (06:49):


Sevan Matossian (06:50):

Of these, I’ve been, I’m sort of trying to get to the bottom of it and I’m sort of just kind of, I want to stay a 30,000 foot view on both of these.

Matthew Souza (07:01):

Yeah, just an observer real quick. One thing I want to say about that is if people are trying to make changes, the last thing you do is berate your affiliate rep that’s having a bad experience at a restaurant that had nothing to do with the server. And then you bring the server over and you just bitch at them for it and scream at them. They’re just the messenger in there. So be kind. Okay.

Sevan Matossian (07:20):

Sorry. If CrossFit contacted me and they were like, Hey dude, we’re not letting you fucking come to the Behind cover any more CrossFit events. There’s no way in hell. I’d be like, how the fuck are you doing that? I would get it. I would completely get it. I fucking go hard on the paint on CrossFit. I wouldn’t be surprised, but I try not to be a hater. I fully support the level one. I fully support the open this year. I fully support the Cure for the world’s most vaccine problem. I think the stuff they post on Twitter is completely fucking VAD and retarded. I think that it’s bad for the brand and it makes it look like CrossFit’s a ghost town. It feels like, fuck, what are you guys on MySpace? I mean, it is some ghetto. You know, you go into a tired casino, Indian casino and there’s no one there and you’re like, fuck.


That’s the way their Twitter account feels. It is bad. And posting a picture of a dog on the games page, I mean horrible. But if right after I say all that, Dawn were to call me and be like, Hey dude, you talk shit about CrossFits social media and we don’t want you, we’re not inviting you to events anymore. I’m not going to be like you asshole. Fair enough. I would get it. I go hard, but for some reason, but I also, I think I add a shit ton of value too, a shit ton. I do the affiliate series, I’ve had more than half the affiliates. I’ve had a on here or just jerking fucking HQ off. I can’t think of a better way to spend a thousand bucks than to take your level one. So it’s, it’s interesting. But if I was an affiliate and I was lobbying bombs, if I’m just lobbying bombs at CrossFit or if this CF affiliate collective is somehow a threat to the status quo, I could see them not wanting this guy Frank, around.


Frank. This is the guy who runs the CF Affiliate Collective Instagram account. The CF Affiliate Collective has repeatedly stated that our issue is not with Don, Dave, Nicole, or Katie. Oh, you mean like on a personal level? And I don’t think, well, other than the fact that they might think you’re threatening their job, if they think that, then it would be personal. But before we get, because this could turn into a wild show. So let’s play this. I haven’t seen this yet. And let’s see what happens. For those of you who don’t know, well, let’s see what Dave says and then if you guys don’t know, maybe we’ll get into the backstory a little bit. Okay, here we go. Action. SU is running into controls. You want to go at regular speed today since it’s just 12 minutes. If it gets bad, start at 1.25 and then it gets weird. Go to normal. I’m just worried about your connection.

Speaker 4 (10:01):

I know. Me too. Sorry guys. If there’s an issue with it, view January 22nd, 2020, 24. Just film us. Just finished some filming with Matt Biel from our CrossFit team. He asked to come over and film some content for some GORUCK videos that we’re doing with them, highlighting Rucking and highlighting the partnership. So we hiked to the top of the hill, 6 45 this morning. Had 40 pounds in a ruck. He caught some B roll of just the rucking and then he asked if I’d do a workout. So I wasn’t prepared or planning to do that. So on the fly we programmed a little box, jump on a tree stump and run with the ruck workout. So I’d run 200 meters, take the ruck off, run downhill, uphill 200 meters, take the ruck off, put it on the tree stump 10 box jumps on the tree stump, which was pretty high, it was around 30 inches.


And then put the pack back on and repeat that for five rounds. So it’s a good little sprint, fun little workout. And it’s been raining here all morning, so I’m wet. It’s not sweat. Even though I was sweating, I’m just wet from the rain and being outside trying to get that big fire going. It took a while to get that fire going. It’s been raining but finally got it going. So good morning, good session. It’s been here for over three hours because we were filming, it’s nine 30, so recording we can review at nine 30.

Sevan Matossian (11:10):

Okay, hold on. I do want to say this for just whatever it’s worth. Anyone who were to say something like, oh hey, Dave’s just doing this because they’re a sponsor for the event. Dave has been rucking since before I fucking knew him. He introduced me to what Rucking is. I remember last year he invited me on a 50 mile ruck. He invited me on a 35 mile ruck on both of ’em. I said I would go, but I’m not going to ruck, I’ll just go. You know what I mean? If I make it from start to finish.


So he is a Rucker. He’s probably really excited. I’m guessing about the sponsorship. It’s something he gives a shit about. He probably never drank a sip of Progenic X or he probably never had a sip of Monster. I’m guessing he never wore a pair of Nobles, but he’s a fucking rucking machine and he loves that ship. And so congrats to CrossFit for getting something that Dave’s like. And I’m not saying that it’s bad that you take money from those other people, but this one he probably loves. He probably got so much cool ruck shit and he’s happy. And the president of GORUCK is a very, very good friend of mine and Dave’s a very good friend. And actually he’ll be on the show tomorrow morning. Jimmy Letford. Dave and I worked with him very closely for years. I mean very closely. Alright, here we go. What time do you think Dave got up by the way, for this? He gets up every morning at the same time he gets up. I think it’s raining outside, that’s why his hair looks like that. But he gets up every morning, five 30, I think he gets up five 30, he reads for an hour. I’ll even just crank call him sometimes because I know and hang up like what? I’m like pocket dial.

Speaker 4 (12:58):

Just that early morning pocket dial. You’re out for your ruck,

Sevan Matossian (13:01):

Sorry. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He gets up, he reads an hour every morning, I’m pretty sure. Five 30 to six 30. Alright, here we go.

Speaker 4 (13:09):

Diving into comments, diving into comments. First comment is from at Beach House, CrossFit, thoughts or opinions on Frank F’s initiative? So Frank owns First City CrossFit in Monterey, and he is someone who I’ve known for several years now and been to that gym multiple times because Monterey’s super close. It’s 30 minutes away, so it’s one of the closer gyms to me. And I also, I’ve even done open workouts there over the years. Had a few meetings with him and heard his opinions on CrossFit and how we should and could be doing things better. And he’s been very vocal to me about that. I’ve actually facilitated meetings with Don and Frank after Don took the role that he currently has. So Frank’s been someone we’ve gone back and forth with for a while. Someone we’ve communicated with a lot over the last couple of years. Recently though he decided to start an initiative to rally affiliates to organize, and I think essentially, I could be saying this wrong because I haven’t looked too closely at what he’s doing, but the organized affiliates to kind of take back CrossFit, he has an ideal and an idea and a vision of how he thinks CrossFit should be run and what CrossFit should be doing.


And I don’t think we’re doing those things to his liking or doing some of the ideas he has fast enough. So he got frustrated and decided to organize in that through that process. He’s also since started taking a lot of shots at us, started taking a lot of jabs, started questioning our, okay,

Sevan Matossian (14:32):

Pause this. Hold on a second. So a couple of things I want to clarify. Dave said he hasn’t looked into what Frank is doing, but he also is saying Frank is taking jabs at us. So there’s a little bit of inconsistency there. He said that Frank’s trying to take back the affiliates. It’s not that I don’t think Frank’s trying to back, he never had them. Maybe he’s trying to take over and Greg did say when Greg was on the show, Greg Glassman, the former owner of CrossFit and founder said, Hey, if you were in their position and you thought the affiliates were organizing, what would you do? How would that make you feel? And he goes, it was one of my biggest fears always, and I’d be scared shitless. And so I understand what Dave’s articulating. I think that was what Dave was trying to say, that, hey, why would we want someone amongst our ranks who’s trying to organize and take it away from the, Dave in essence works for the private equity company that bought it. So why would we want someone around who’s going to take that from the people who bought this as an investment to make money. That being said, I don’t know. I’d be curious what Dave knows and doesn’t know about Frank because there is that inconsistency. Do you guys have any thoughts on what I said or what Dave said? Susa?

Matthew Souza (15:47):

Yeah, he always does that. He tells you that he doesn’t watch anything but then gives you details on what he didn’t watch, which is always kind of funny, but I don’t know if he, and maybe there is some truth to that. Maybe. Is my mic okay now? I turned it down. I don’t know.

Tyler Watkins (16:00):

A big break for me.

Sevan Matossian (16:01):

If you guys, if it’s mic’s still too loud, just comment in the comments, we’ll fix it.

Matthew Souza (16:04):

Yeah, it’s probably not my mic. It’s probably my presence.

Sevan Matossian (16:07):

Scott, blame Don. I don’t blame Don. I don’t blame Don for booting him out, just if that’s what he’s trying to do. If he’s threatening the owners of the company.

Matthew Souza (16:21):

Yeah, I don’t blame Don for that.

Sevan Matossian (16:23):

I would want Frank to go away too,

Matthew Souza (16:24):

Too. And I think that we on the show too, have also accused HQ of just being soft these days and not really standing too

Sevan Matossian (16:33):

A lot soft. Too

Matthew Souza (16:34):

Soft, too soft, too soft. I think that, and I definitely have said that, so they’re probably just using that as an example, right? It’s low hanging fruit. They have somebody who’s kind of poking at ’em and organizing and they don’t really like it. So then they can put them on the chopping block and say, Hey look, here’s what we did. We cut this guy out

Sevan Matossian (16:50):

And look at Frank says, I don’t blame Don either, by the way. You can turn your mic up just a little bit. Thoughts Tyler?

Tyler Watkins (16:57):

Dave’s level of knowing is probably he knows 90% and he’s not willing to opine because he doesn’t know the 10%. If he knew the full a hundred, he’d be like, okay, I know everything. And so I think he’s backing out to be like there might be one thing I don’t know about what the situation is. What I’m interested to know is Dave’s opinion, I guess on if he put himself in their shoes, does their move.

Sevan Matossian (17:23):

I don’t blame what Frank’s doing either. Yeah, gets a good point. I don’t blame what Frank’s doing either if Frank’s not happy and he sees that there’s not strong control over the affiliates and he thinks he could do better. I mean that’s what capitalism and free markets are about.

Tyler Watkins (17:38):

I mean that’s what we’re seeing in every piece of the CrossFit ecosystem right now is the athletes are starting to try to unionize, the judges are starting to try to unionize, the affiliates are starting to try to unionize. And it’s like, okay, if everybody’s doing that, what’s the underlying garder there? I don’t love unionization, but I can’t say that Frank wasn’t, his hand wasn’t forced to a degree or that his action wasn’t appropriate in some way.

Sevan Matossian (18:09):

And Frank is saying here in the comments, I don’t blame Don either, and he has a fiduciary responsibility to rep private equity. Yeah, also true. He can’t be like, Hey Frank, by the way, if you do steal this shit, could I have my job? I mean, he can’t do that. Maybe he could even go to jail for that. And

Matthew Souza (18:26):

I think to Frank’s point is he’s basically saying if the private equity is going to own it, their ultimate goal in the thing that’s going to govern all their decisions is a hundred percent predicated on money on making ROI. And we know as we talked with Greg, that was not what his end all be all was. And I think that’s where the issue comes in with cross of being owned by private equity. That will always be the governing decision,

Sevan Matossian (18:51):

Right? Frank basically Frank’s saying if the affiliates were making money hand over fist, there wouldn’t be any complaints from him. He’s saying if there was a line out the door, the complaints would stop. I’ve said this to Frank, and I’ve said this on the show and I’ve shared this before. I personally don’t think a group of affiliates can run CrossFit either. They’re just people and they’ll end up fucking end up at some point taking

Matthew Souza (19:20):

Cola fucking Yeah, that’s probably true. Yeah,

Sevan Matossian (19:21):

They’ll end up Coca-Cola

Tyler Watkins (19:23):

Cola as sponsor. That’s the first part.

Sevan Matossian (19:24):

Yeah. Okay. Okay, let’s keep going. Here we go.

Speaker 4 (19:29):

Questioning our motives. And so it has become very aggressive in the process, very aggressive in terms of vocally

Sevan Matossian (19:38):


Speaker 4 (19:39):

Loud and taking these shots at us from this position of being an affiliate owner. And so he is, or he, let’s say was he was an affiliate owner and he had renewed in November and planned on being an affiliate I guess until next November. So just a couple months ago he re-upped his a affiliation at the same time trying to organize affiliates basically against us and taking jabs at us and our leadership and the way we’re doing things. And so the question had to be asked internally, should we allow him to continue to be an affiliate if he’s going to have this very negative and vocal opinion of us and our leadership. So when Beach House CrossFit asked this or made this comment, this was three days ago, so I don’t know if you know this, but Frank has posted video since this weekend. But after that comment and this weekend, Don called Frank and actually talked to him about like, Hey, do you want to be an affiliate?


And if so, we don’t want you disparaging us or making these comments against us. And Frank told him he was going to continue to do that, and so Don decided to affiliate him. And I think that was absolutely the right call to make and to do at this point, and very proud of Don and the leadership that he exhibited in making this tough call that’s probably going to be controversial and some people might not agree with, but it’s something that I really respect in him for doing and it’s the type of leader that that’s the type of leader I want to work for and I want to rally behind. And I think us as a community should see that and respect it and understand what it represents. Like, hey, here we have this affiliate who’s disparaging the way, CrossFit’s being run disparaging the brand and wants to organize, have an effort against us essentially, and doing it in a very vocal and negative way.


And that is something we should not allow as leaders of CrossFit to be in our ranks. You want the benefit of being a CrossFit affiliate, but you also want to be very negative and criticize and take jabs at us while flying the CrossFit flag. Well do that without the flag. Honestly, I believe Frank probably should have be affiliated as soon as he started off on this endeavor almost like, Hey, put your money where your mouth is if you’re going to be so critical and you don’t like how we’re doing things, don’t have your affiliation through November of next year, just fucking de affiliate right now. And then start organizing affiliates. So this isn’t about shutting him down, and this isn’t about telling him not to say what he’s saying or not to do what he’s suing. This is about, hey, say you could fucking do all of that, but you’re not going to do that while concurrently flying the CrossFit flag. So yeah, say all the things you want, say do everything. Have your, I think his effort’s called the CrossFit Affiliate Collective and actually fucking drop cross. You should drop CrossFit from it if you’re so disappointed in how we’re doing things and want to see it so differently. Call it the Frank Affiliate Collective.


So that went on this weekend, and so that’s the latest on the initiative. Frank is no longer an affiliate and I’m proud of CrossFit and I’m proud of Don for taking that action in this situation and de affiliating Frank because he basically said, Hey, he’s not going to back off. He’s not going to stop taking shots at us, taking jabs at CrossFit. And so it’s like, cool. Then we have the power to say, we don’t want you in our ranks. We don’t want you to be an affiliate

Sevan Matossian (22:50):

Flying. Okay, hold on a second. So I think the three of us, Dave and Frank all agree on one thing. We don’t blame. It sounds like Don, we all agree Don made the right decision like, yo dude, you obviously don’t want to be here. We’re going to make the decision for you. I hear Dave’s point about maybe he should have de affiliated, he should have never paid his affiliate fees and re-upped. But I know it’s a hard decision too because Don probably feels very loyal to the name and the brand just like everyone else does. And it’s not easy for Don or for Frank. So I can’t give him a divorce is fucking hard. Do you think that’s fair so far? We know that from what Frank’s saying in the comments what Dave’s saying and what Don did.

Matthew Souza (23:36):

Yeah. The only thing that I worry about is what’s the line that’s going to be pushed? So is now this going to a trend? If you start speaking out against CrossFit and stuff, are they just going to start? Yeah, Hey dude,

Sevan Matossian (23:51):

Okay, it’s going to

Matthew Souza (23:52):

Roll or what, but he’s

Sevan Matossian (23:53):

Speaking, he’s not like, Hey, fuck Dave. Affiliates are allowed to say, Hey, Dave’s horrible at doing the open, or Hey, fucking roses a pussy for not standing up against Covid and fucking grabbing his ankles and fucking luing up all the affiliates assholes and letting the government fuck them bra dog. You’re allowed to say that. What you’re not allowed to say though, where Don’s drawn the line is, Hey, you can’t be trying to take over the fucking company from the inside. Interesting. Right? You’re allowed to say the food on this cruise ship is horrible. You’re not allowed to pull the fire alarm.

Tyler Watkins (24:33):

Can’t run a mutiny.

Sevan Matossian (24:34):

Yeah. Wouldn’t you say Susa? There there’s a line somewhere.

Matthew Souza (24:39):

Yeah. Yeah, that’s, and that’s just what I was wondering is obviously him wanting Frank wanting to organize people for lack of better words, overthrow the current leadership at CrossFit was that line. So I could come on here and I could disagree with a lot of the money that they wasted at a bunch of failed initiatives that have died on the vine. They lack of vision and direction for the company, the fact that they have no philosophical direction, but I’m not actually organizing against them. So that’s okay. But if I take the next step to say, now I’m going to organize all these troops to come after you, then that’s where they draw the line. Right?

Tyler Watkins (25:14):

I was thinking about this. Go ahead. Go ahead.

Sevan Matossian (25:17):

No, you go ahead. Go ahead Tyler. Go ahead.

Tyler Watkins (25:18):

Well, when I first listened to it, I thought about what sort of relationship do the affiliates have with hq because he says a bit about, he said something about a relationship and I was like, oh, in a marriage you couldn’t do certain things. There’s definitely lines to be drawn, but the relationship with a marriage doesn’t seem right. But this happens in churches all the time where this group over here doesn’t agree with what’s being preached on. So they sort of raise their opinions for a while and the church sort of bat it around for a while and then eventually they’re like, okay, this is a compromise. And then soon enough they’re like, we’re not happy with the compromise. And then eventually they just splinter off and do their own church. And we’re seeing the same thing here. Now, Frank hasn’t started his own church, but it’s funny that we’re treading similar sort of lines. The other thing I’m wondering,

Sevan Matossian (26:17):

I think Frank has made proposals maybe is a little strong, but he’s laid out, I haven’t looked at the CrossFit collective account closely, but I think I’ve seen videos where he’s laid out, Hey, it could be like this and those, it could be like this is a threat to the owners of the company. It is like your wife may be asking if the ex-boyfriend can move in. We told HQ when we renewed that we were only renewing to give us time to move off the brand freedom of speech. Wow.

Matthew Souza (26:55):


Sevan Matossian (26:56):

What the fuck does that, he

Tyler Watkins (26:57):

Was allowed to say what he wanted.

Matthew Souza (26:59):


Sevan Matossian (26:59):

I don’t What does that mean,

Matthew Souza (27:00):

Mean don’t think it was, I don’t think it was a problem with that. And the only thing I was bringing up was just what does that

Sevan Matossian (27:04):

Even mean? Freedom of speech. They’re saying that you should be able to say anything you want and still be an

Tyler Watkins (27:09):


Sevan Matossian (27:10):

I don’t think you can do

Matthew Souza (27:11):

That. You could have freedom of speech, but you’re not going to have lack of consequence. So there, there’s a big difference there. You could say whatever you want, but realize that there’s going to be consequences to what you’re saying at the same time, and you’re not void of those.

Sevan Matossian (27:25):

It’s their sandbox and you’re paying money to play in it. And they’re pretty loose with the fucking rules, dude.

Tyler Watkins (27:33):


Matthew Souza (27:34):

By the way, too wasn’t saying, I was just speculating for the sake of our conversation here, I’m not even disagreeing with what they had done. In fact, it’s probably better for the brand that Don actually did that because it shows that they do have boundaries and they are going to push back and they will make tough calls when they have to, which is something that we haven’t necessarily seen them do in the past.

Sevan Matossian (27:54):

Hey, how about this? I mean, Greg had his balls out all the time. He’d be like, hello everyone. Look at my balls. This is the first time. I can’t remember if we’ve ever seen Don’s balls before, but it’s kind of nice to see ’em. The community wants to see the balls. We’re ball driven community.

Matthew Souza (28:15):

We love the balls.

Sevan Matossian (28:16):

We love the balls. And Don showed a set of balls. So by the way, Frank, I appreciate this. We and most affiliates don’t want to affiliate. We love the community and methodology. We don’t agree with the decision made by private equity. Fair enough. Yeah. I’m on the exact same page as Frank. Like the decisions probably being made either.

Tyler Watkins (28:38):

So is that something, an idea we have to get rid of is that I think he thinks of the kernel of Dave and Don and all of those people at HQ as sort of really CrossFit and then private equity is exterior to that and he’s like, this is a cancer. We need to cut it off. I want them out. This is what Frank is thinking. Right? But is that an idea? Us as a community have to get rid of private equity is now part of it. And you have to get over this.

Sevan Matossian (29:06):

I just called myself the CEO.

Matthew Souza (29:10):

It’s worked out so far.

Tyler Watkins (29:12):


Matthew Souza (29:12):

Paying off. The other thing I would relate this to is if I had an issue with, I would just relate it to the affiliate. If I had an issue with somebody at the affiliate that says, Matt’s programming sucks. I think the way they run the gym sucks. I want to gather all of his members. I’m talking out to his coaches and we’re going to take all this shit. We’re going to leave. We’re going to go up the street and start our own gym. I would immediately bring that person and be like, Hey, don’t fucking come back here

Sevan Matossian (29:33):


Matthew Souza (29:33):

Away. I would cut them out of there right away. We’ve had members who want to come in and do their own thing and I’m going to the CrossFit games, they sound like a douche to me. And you go over to the corner and you start slamming barbells and disrupting my classes. I go over there and say, Hey, I think you should go to the gym up the street. I think you’d be better suited going over there. They’re a better fit for you. We’re not the fit for you. If you want to come in here and do your HWPO programming off to the side, go do that somewhere else Here I’m about the class and about the community. If you don’t want to fit into that, then we’re not the right fit for you.

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