REVIEW of The Dave Castro WIR | Jan 1, 2024

JR Howell (00:00):

No one caught it. Savon this morning was like, I don’t know about you guys. I don’t know how it looked on your computer, on your phone, but I was watching on an 80 or an 85 inch TV and

Sevan Matossian (00:12):

Bam, we’re live. Let’s get this shit over with Ken. What’s up dude? Ken’s here. Let’s fucking party Mr. Walters. Mr. Baseball card. Hiller FITT from YouTube’s next generation of cool videos. Mr. Jr. Howell from CrossFit, crash, crash, crucible, and then some other thing that’s supposed to happen that’s just for teams. That’s crescendo. Thank you. Thank you. Tex Heat one app blowing up big. We’ll get back to him in one second. We’ll let him have the floor for one second before we start the Dave Castro review of the weekend review of reviews, we’ll come back to Mr. Tyler Watkins because he got something big going on for Waap Palooza and then J no B, no W WJ Y White John Young in the house. John Young Barbell, if you want to get strong, he’s your guy. No one is denying that. No one can refute that. What’s up Tyler? What’s up? What’s going on for Waap? Paloozas? Heat Went apps. This is its biggest rollout, right? This is, it’s like this is the, is it launched? Are we still in betas? What’s going on? First of all, for anyone who doesn’t know, it’s a fantasy fitness app for CrossFit and it’s fun and it’s easy to use. And I think this is like a fourth or fifth tour, right? That it’s out and now there’s prizes in money and it’s getting good.

Tyler Watkins (01:32):

Yeah, it’s getting better. We haven’t officially announced anything for Water Palooza, but we are doing games for Water Palooza. If you go to the app, you might find some more information for now. This week we’ll make some announcements, but please go download Heat one

Sevan Matossian (01:49):

Heat one app in the Apple Store. In the Google store. And then where will you be making those announcements? Will you tell me so I can announce it? Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

Tyler Watkins (01:58):

I’ll follow up with you as soon as we go live with it.

Sevan Matossian (02:01):

So kind of the normal spots barbell spin and here. Okay. Yeah. Awesome. Alright. This is a Monday show. It’s weird, right? It’s like the holidays. It’s weird. jr’s here and it’s nighttime. You’re here. I don’t ever invite Tyler to anything. It’s weird. It’s like the vampire. It’s like the guy goes to bed early and then the dude doesn’t get invited to shit. So here

Tyler Watkins (02:22):

We are. What shows up?

John Young (02:24):

Shows up. I thought I was in trouble.

Sevan Matossian (02:27):

What’d you say, John?

John Young (02:28):

I said I thought I was in trouble for some reason.

Sevan Matossian (02:31):

Because you get invited.

John Young (02:32):

No, he said who can do the show? And I go, I can if you need me and then you go Tyler immediately I’m

Sevan Matossian (02:41):

Like, what a

John Young (02:44):


Sevan Matossian (02:45):

Did any of you guys have a chance to watch the behind the scenes yet?

John Young (02:48):

Yeah, I’ve seen both.

Sevan Matossian (02:50):

Oh, what’d you think?

John Young (02:52):

They’re awesome.

Sevan Matossian (02:53):

Yeah, you did like it? Okay. I mean, you guys are easy to please. You guys are games, fanatics.

Tyler Watkins (02:59):

I mean I text you all this. I love that they’re back. It makes me reminiscent of the old days. It makes it feel like the old days again. But I also like having a job when I’m watching because Will sends us the links before and we need a quality check. I appreciate doing that.

Sevan Matossian (03:17):

Cool. And thank you for that. You know who he said was the best at that? He said Brian Spin from the barbell spin. He said he had tons of corrections. He said he was invaluable, so that’s awesome.

Andrew Hiller (03:27):

Who else got a

Sevan Matossian (03:28):

Link? Thanks. No Hiller. Feel horrible. Everyone but you. Andrew. By the way, if you guys don’t know the founder of Kwanza, one of the things that he went to jail for was tying women down in the basement and beating them with toasters. And he also tied Hiller down and hit him with a toaster. You can see Hiller’s face on the left of his

Andrew Hiller (03:49):

Eye. He beat the

Sevan Matossian (03:50):

Fuck off. What happened to you? Did you bump into something in your gym?

Andrew Hiller (03:53):

No. What are you talking about? This

Sevan Matossian (03:54):

Thing was, yeah, you guys hit with the

Andrew Hiller (03:56):

Toast. That’s a pimple. Oh,

Sevan Matossian (03:58):

Alright. Oh, nevermind. TRT.

Andrew Hiller (03:59):

I’m back on the TT

Sevan Matossian (04:02):


Andrew Hiller (04:02):

Teenager again.

Sevan Matossian (04:05):

Testosterone, pimples and hardons. Testosterone pimples and hard tp, TPH,

Andrew Hiller (04:11):

Testosterone, pimples, hardon.

JR Howell (04:13):

Is Alexis one of those strange females that love to

Tyler Watkins (04:18):

That’s just a female lance?

Andrew Hiller (04:19):

No, dude, she won’t let you

JR Howell (04:20):

Lance and squeeze.

Andrew Hiller (04:21):

She won’t let you touch ’em. It’s part of her gig as an esthetician.

JR Howell (04:26):

I like that.

Andrew Hiller (04:27):

She hates when I pop ’em.

Sevan Matossian (04:29):

J why are you, this is late for you. What’s your deal? You got kids and shit, why are you up so late?

Tyler Watkins (04:38):

Question. Tried to bail out and we wouldn’t let him.

JR Howell (04:41):

That’s a good question. Now my wife was off work today, so I saw her a lot more than usual. So I was, okay, I’m getting on tonight. She goes, okay, you want me to just chill and why you get on? I was like, what? What’s wrong with you? You need to go back to work tomorrow. So yeah.

Sevan Matossian (04:56):

Is she asleep already?

JR Howell (04:58):

No, she just went in the bedroom though.

Sevan Matossian (04:59):

Alright. Okay. This is the Dave Castro week in review. Let’s see, 14 comments already. Oh look, there’s someone in here for advice for Bible reading. Oh shit. Is Dave about to read the New Testament? Anyway, here we go. The Dave Castro, the voice of CrossFit. This is a show where we review his weekend review. Here we go.

Dave Castro (05:24):

First 20, 24 seven’s behind the scenes just launched. I think it’s behind his YouTube paywall. And each episode will be behind the paywall.

Sevan Matossian (05:32):

We don’t like to use that word paywall.

Andrew Hiller (05:34):

You hypocrite

Sevan Matossian (05:35):

We call it. It’s for members only. We call it for members only and then eventually it will be free. He knows that I’m avoiding using that word paywall. That’s why he did that. You dickhead one strike against the Dave Castro, Alexis Kowalski scars and you push the bacteria further into the skin and you get more pimples.

Andrew Hiller (05:55):

I hear it all the time.

Sevan Matossian (05:56):

Alright. Okay, so let’s not use the word paywall that triggers me. Okay, here we go.

Dave Castro (06:01):

For two weeks. If you want to watch it, you have to subscribe to his channel, pay a monthly fee and you can have early access to it. I think in two weeks every episode is launched to the public for free. I think there’s eight or nine episodes total. I’ve watched

Sevan Matossian (06:15):

You dickhead. There’s 15 episodes and the two weeks prior to the open, I don’t know if he’s doing that on purpose or not. On February 15th, we will start releasing them for free. So it’ll go February 15th and 16th and 17th and there’ll be 15 daily releases as we go up to the open to promote the open. And if you want to see it early, we put it behind a paywall. I want to be very, very clear. Some people don’t understand this. I didn’t make this to make money. I put up the paywall to make money. Some of you are, some of you’re going to have trouble understanding the difference in that. But I made this because I wanted to make it.


That’s it. That’s the only reason why. And then afterwards I’m like, well shit, if we can make some money, that’s fine. But afterwards, we were talking, we were having some meetings and someone’s like, Hey, what are we going to do next to keep the people paying? And I’m like, Hey, if they want to keep paying, they can keep paying. I’m not doing stuff for money. I’m doing stuff I’d like. And then you guys have been exceedingly generous and I really, really appreciate the people who appreciate it. It’s going to allow us to do more. But there is a distinction.

Dave Castro (07:24):

It’s the first four, I just liked

Sevan Matossian (07:26):

It. Thank you. Four, five, come over there and fucking pop your pimple

Dave Castro (07:30):

Please. I’m really enjoying it. It’s just a behind the scenes peak at the CrossFit games and the athletes and those involved. So if you’re a fan of the space, if you’re a fan of the athletes, if you’re a fan of the games, it’s definitely worth checking out. Recently over the vacation or the break, I was talking Toson and I asked him if there was any guests, he was any upcoming guests that he was really excited about having on and he mentioned this lady named Jennifer say, and so she used to work for Levi’s and she wrote a book called Levi’s Unbutton. The woke mob took my job but gave me my voice. And so I listened to it on audiobooks and her stories. Pretty fascinating. It’s a good book. It’s a good listen, I didn’t read it. I listened to it. It’s a good

Sevan Matossian (08:11):

Wow. I’m listening to it too. I have two hours left after the show today I’m going to listen to the next two hours. Great. Fascinating book. She comes on tomorrow, big deal. Big big deal. President Levi Strauss. She had a thousand people working for She’s Baller. She’s a Forbes top 50 and a billboard top 25 Most influential people

Dave Castro (08:32):

Listen or you can read it, I recommend either. And she was standing up for schools being open during the pandemic so children could do in-person schooling and not be forced to stay at home specifically in San Francisco, California area. And she was getting pressure within Levi’s. She was the chief marketing officer, actually brand president. And she was getting pressure to not talk about it publicly because of her position within Levi’s. And eventually they offered her a severance and they were going to let her go, but she decided just to quit instead, not take the severance. If she took the severance, she wouldn’t be able to tell her story and she really wanted to tell her story. Anyway, the book was really good. I enjoyed her perspective. I enjoyed what she was talking about in regards to differing perspectives in that organization and very little tolerance for

Sevan Matossian (09:22):

Liberal. Yeah, Levi’s, the gene company based out of San Francisco, six, 7 billion company. She was next in line to be the CEO. She’s the liberal Jew, married a black dude, had two black kids with them. And she was pissed off that they were closing down the public schools because on one hand, corporate America was saying, Hey, we care about black and brown kids. And then as we all know, closing the schools only hurt dirt, poor white people, black kids and brown kids. Not because of their skin color, but because where they are socio and economically. And she’s like, Hey, this is fucking bullshit. Why are the kids taking a disproportionate amount of the harm when they’re not even susceptible to dying? Why are all the rich executives and people like me, wealthy motherfuckers whose kids get to keep getting an education, go to private schools, do homeschool. Why aren’t they taking the brunt? Why open up the fucking public school? She said, and her libtard friends are like, nah, nah, we ain’t doing that. You can’t say that. That’s not good. Meanwhile, all the private schools were open. We know the bars were open. We know fucking Baskin Robbins was open. And so it’s pretty cool. It’s a cool story of a fucking libtard standing up. It’s going to be interesting to see where she stands on other issues tomorrow.

Andrew Hiller (10:35):

What happened to Libtard being the new

Sevan Matossian (10:39):

Badi? I guess sometimes I don’t say I haven’t broken on that word that you said. I don’t think you said it right, by the way,

Andrew Hiller (10:46):

Budi. It’s not budi. Alright.

Sevan Matossian (10:51):

But I’ve become a little more liberal in my use of libtard. John Young. Do you think that the public schools should have been kept open?

John Young (10:59):

I think that the option should be there. You shouldn’t be forced to send your kids to school, but you shouldn’t be forced to keep them out of school too.

Sevan Matossian (11:06):

Mr. Tyler Watkins, what did you think about the schools being closed for kids? I think all public schools should be closed. I’ve come full circle. Me too, Jr what did you think about the schools being closed? Public schools or do you even have schools in fucking Hickville where you live? One tooth bill where you live?

JR Howell (11:25):

Yeah, I mean there really wasn’t a thing here. Being in South Carolina. I didn’t know of any schools that closed. That’s

Sevan Matossian (11:33):

Awesome. Zero. And Andrew Hiller, who’s a dink, is that what’s called the Dink?

Andrew Hiller (11:40):


Sevan Matossian (11:42):

He’s a definition. I think

Andrew Hiller (11:44):

It takes two to be a dink.

John Young (11:47):

Can y’all correct me if I’m wrong? Colleges weren’t closed, were

Sevan Matossian (11:49):

They? Yeah, they were. Not only were colleges closed, but you weren’t even allowed go back unless you got the fucking

Tyler Watkins (11:55):

They closed first.

John Young (11:57):

My college wasn’t closed. I was in nursing school all throughout Covid.

Sevan Matossian (12:02):

Did you, you’re mind a,

Tyler Watkins (12:03):

Weren’t you in Pikeville,

Sevan Matossian (12:04):

Kentucky for that?

John Young (12:06):

No, that was optometry school.

Andrew Hiller (12:08):

Oh, holy.

John Young (12:12):

Yeah. I got 10 years of education that I don’t use. Just people know a

Sevan Matossian (12:18):

Dink. Ah, got you.

Andrew Hiller (12:21):

No kids

Sevan Matossian (12:22):

Double income. No kids. Hillary, you lived in the hive. What do you think should the kids schools have stayed open?

Andrew Hiller (12:31):

It just depends on how they were going to be staying open.

Sevan Matossian (12:34):

Stay open, like open the door, the kids come to school, fat lady yells at ’em. Shit like that. Stay open like second grade.

Andrew Hiller (12:41):

I got this buddy that’s a teacher that pushes his political agenda on the kids and I think that’s pretty messed up. So I’m probably with Tyler on this one. Shut him all

Sevan Matossian (12:49):

Down. Oh, just close ’em down altogether. All right. You guys really trumped

Andrew Hiller (12:51):

That they’re doing no good.

Sevan Matossian (12:53):

Okay. Alright,

Andrew Hiller (12:53):

Cool. You know what it is? It’s free daycare for parents. That’s how I always think home school is. Hey, we got to put our kids.

John Young (13:00):

I plan on home, don’t my kids to high school.

Sevan Matossian (13:04):

What’d you say, John?

John Young (13:05):

I said I plan on homeschooling my kids to high school and then I want ’em to go to public high school.

Sevan Matossian (13:11):


John Young (13:12):

You. That’s my game plan.

Sevan Matossian (13:14):

Fair enough.

Dave Castro (13:16):

Differing perspectives or having a different way of thinking about some of the stuff going on during that period, during the same period where I was listening to that book specifically on drives. I listen to books when I’m driving. I was also reading my 54th, 55th book lot. So why I say that is last year

Sevan Matossian (13:34):

Exactly. He went camping with his daughter somewhere that was like two hours away. I feel like

Tyler Watkins (13:40):

Anytime I see stuff from him, he’s driving, but

Sevan Matossian (13:46):

Oh shit, look it Raise your kids on the streets. A black John Young. Raise your kids on the streets. You’re supposed to.

John Young (13:55):


Andrew Hiller (13:55):

Is my favorite character.

Dave Castro (13:57):

One year ago, one year ago, I decided my goal for the year, not a resolution, but a goal for the year was I was going to read 52 books and my PR in 2017 was 50 books. I read 50 books that year. And in the past two or three years, past few years, I’ve read anywhere from 30 to 40 books. So not to that 50. And I decided I wanted to read 52, so one a week and I actually finished 55 books. So during that I was reading my 54th book and I actually brought it with me. The 54th book of the year was Upton Sinclair’s book called Oil. And so why this relates to Jennifer SEI and what she was talking about with different perspectives, et cetera. So Upton Sinclair, I’ve also read The Jungle, which I really liked and this book Oil, which I also really enjoyed and really liked. He’s a socialist or he was a socialist for a period of time, especially when he was writing these books and a lot of his perspective on society and capitalism is not in line with how I believe or think, but it was still a really entertaining book and something that I enjoyed reading and something I enjoyed seeing or reading about his view on things. Has

Sevan Matossian (15:04):

Anyone here read any Upton Sinclair?

John Young (15:07):

No sir. Nope.

Sevan Matossian (15:09):

Have you Chocolate

Andrew Hiller (15:10):

To Claire?

Sevan Matossian (15:13):

I hate one of those too. Indicate Danny Spiegel reads 50 books a month. All right. Ain’t got shit.

Andrew Hiller (15:20):

Hey, did you hear him say that he doesn’t have resolutions, but he’s got goals. Is he too cool to have resolutions or what?

Sevan Matossian (15:26):

I don’t know. That was

John Young (15:27):


Andrew Hiller (15:30):

Pedro has

John Young (15:30):

That. Pedro said the exact same thing on Instagram today.

Andrew Hiller (15:34):

Oh, he just said it there too. I picked up on it.

Sevan Matossian (15:37):

I missed that. Do you do resolutions Hiller?

Andrew Hiller (15:41):

No, I do goals.

Sevan Matossian (15:44):

Does anyone here do resolutions?

John Young (15:46):

No, I think they’re stupid. I’ve teetered. Sorry. I’m sorry if you do it, but I think they’re retarded.

Andrew Hiller (15:54):

I’m sorry about that, but I think they’re retarded.

John Young (15:58):

I do. Devon,

Andrew Hiller (15:59):

Do you do resolutions?

Sevan Matossian (16:00):

I don’t.

Andrew Hiller (16:01):

Are you still doing ribeyes?

Sevan Matossian (16:02):

I’m trying. I’ve I’ve had a rough go though. I had a rough go. What do you mean it’s one day in? No, no, no, no. But I started two months ago. Oh, okay.

Andrew Hiller (16:14):

I’m doing the meat and fruit thing all year.

JR Howell (16:17):

So the gathering we all get invited to. That happened today at 1:00 PM You didn’t just eat meat by

Sevan Matossian (16:22):

The beach? No. No. What an interesting beach trip. No, but it was a great trip. Oh, I sent you guys a picture under the table, right? I took a picture under the table. Yep.

Andrew Hiller (16:36):


Sevan Matossian (16:37):

Yeah. You don’t remember the picture I sent under the table to the chat. Why? It was under the table alludes me. But you’re in the chat. You didn’t see, you don’t know why it was under the table.

Andrew Hiller (16:49):

All I think is it’s a picture of your penis. So I don’t remember.

John Young (16:51):

What are you meaning when you say under the table? I

Sevan Matossian (16:53):

Put the camera under the table and snapped a picture and sent it to you guys to show you

Andrew Hiller (16:57):

Something. That’s cool. I remember that.

Sevan Matossian (16:58):

Alright. Jesus Christ, here we go.

Dave Castro (17:01):

And I think that’s lost just because it’s lost in modern society where understanding the other side or consuming content from the other side or being willing to talk to people from the other side. For example, in Jennifer say’s Case, one of the seminal moments, the turning points in her story was when she went on Fox News and a lot of employees lost their shit over that and decided she was a traitor and betrayed fundamental principles that they believed in. And anyways, my point is reading perspectives that are different from where you have or what your views are is actually puts everyone in a stronger position and it gives them a stronger view on things. Finish this book. Really liked it. And then I actually, my 55th book, the final book of the year that I read was Che Geva Gorilla Warfare and Soche Geva is a well-known communist and with Fidel Castro helped overthrow the Cuban government at the time and put Fidel Castro in a communist regime in power. I didn’t really get into the book. It was okay, but again, this does not mean I’m a communist sympathizer or a Che Gavar a fan. It just means I wanted to see things from his perspective, read his book. It’s a very popular book and be open to seeing or consuming different ideas. I think there’s a lot of people nowadays who are not open to seeing or consuming different viewpoints or ideas. A couple years ago, there was a phase where I was posting all the books I read.

Sevan Matossian (18:28):

What’s crazy is he just lectured me on that.

John Young (18:32):

Being open to new ideas.

Sevan Matossian (18:33):

Yeah, yeah. He was lecturing me on that the other day. Why? Basically he was saying that I was too judgmental about certain people and I should be open-minded. And I was like, whatcha talking about? I was trying to bury the hatchet with Karin before I was even going to do the behind the scenes. I got all defensive and gave him a list of people that I wasn’t holding a grudge against, did he? I wanted so bad to tell him a list of people he’s holding a grudge against, but I didn’t, I didn’t want to attack him. You know what I mean? Then it’s like I’m his wife, so I just defended myself instead of being like, well you do that. So I stayed cool.

John Young (19:07):

Didn’t see that part on behind the scenes.

Sevan Matossian (19:09):

Say that again John. I

John Young (19:10):

Didn’t see that part on behind the scenes. When Y all had this conversation.

Sevan Matossian (19:13):

No, the other day I went to his house for just like a Christmas dinner. I always buy him a bottle of Kamus, very expensive bottle of wine. Once a year we go to his house and we drink it. I hang out in the kitchen mostly with his wife and get drunk and eat her food. But I sat on the couch with him, watched a little football and we talked and he lectured me on what a close-minded DBA I am.

Andrew Hiller (19:38):

Do you think somebody lectured him?

Sevan Matossian (19:41):

What? No, he’s just, look at this fucking guy. He’s reading

John Young (19:44):

Greg lecture. Tim,

Sevan Matossian (19:45):

He’s reading books. I mean, I like this what he’s doing. What do you think, Hillary? You like this? That he’s, so

Andrew Hiller (19:53):

It reminds me of the people who watch the opposite news channel and there aren’t very many of ’em, but I always like it when it’s like, Hey, what’s this on for? He goes, oh, let’s just see what the other party’s saying. I think Greg says he does that too,

Sevan Matossian (20:03):

Right? Yeah. Greg doesn’t do that. You go to his house and CNN’s on.

Andrew Hiller (20:06):

Yeah. And then there’s also the people who have that little logo burned into the bottom of the screen of the news station they have on all day, right? They can’t live without their fox or c Nnn or whatever

Sevan Matossian (20:17):

Jr. You ever get any vibe from Dave that he’s a big reader. He’s had this theme now for years that he’s showing off. Some people might say, oh, he’s just doing that to show off, to show you how smart he’s, you get any vibe like that from him?

JR Howell (20:31):

No, not really. The whole time he was talking about that and you were talking about how he’s trying to get you to be more, I was just thinking about the early years and all the descriptions that people would give any outside recommendations or ideas that you would give him. He’d just be like, yeah, we’re not doing

Sevan Matossian (20:46):


JR Howell (20:49):

Anything, workouts, programming, anything like that. And now he’s maybe turned over a new leaf.

Sevan Matossian (20:57):

Mr. Watkins, you like his book choice?

Tyler Watkins (21:00):

Book choices? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I get why he’s reading them. I think it’s funny. The only thing I thought when I originally watched this was that he held up your book and then described that he read books that he doesn’t agree with to tell people to back off. It seemed like a white flag to me.

Sevan Matossian (21:20):

Explain that. I’m not following you. Explain that

Tyler Watkins (21:24):

He knew if he had just put that Levi’s book out that he was going to get a shit load of bad comments. Oh, the moment he used woke.

Sevan Matossian (21:32):

Oh, because she was against masks on kids and that. Okay. Okay. You’re

Tyler Watkins (21:39):

Saying he’s soft. It was getting soft. I don’t think he’s soft, but I thought it originally, I was like, if he doesn’t pull the plane up, I’m going to think it was a soft move. But he did well

Sevan Matossian (21:48):

Calculated. You thought it was

Tyler Watkins (21:49):

Calculated? Yeah, I thought it was calculated.

Sevan Matossian (21:51):

Ryan Haskins can now watch the behind the scenes early. Hey, thank you dude, I appreciate it.

JR Howell (21:56):

Hey Sivan, in a day when you’re riding around with him at the games, how many times does he say, alright, cut it for a second so he can tell you something that he doesn’t.

Sevan Matossian (22:06):

Most of the time he’s going to say something to someone else, but I would say 10 times a day and I’m with him for 10 days, so a hundred times.

JR Howell (22:14):

But it’s not because he wants to tell you something he wants off the record

Sevan Matossian (22:18):

Sometimes. Sometimes. You know what I mean?

JR Howell (22:22):

I picked up on that a more in one A, but it was just cool to see every now and then he’s like, alright. Yeah, kill it for a second. Can you give

Sevan Matossian (22:29):

Us an example of what he wouldn’t want to say? I can’t think of anything. I was going to make a joke, but Okay, I’ll give you an example. He had a buddy there who was over 20 years in Delta force, a senior operator in Delta force as high as you could be in that. And he was there with Dave. And so every once in a while and Dave told me, Hey, don’t get him on camera ever. And so he was always around near Dave, within a few feet of Dave. And so a few times if he was going to say something to him, he would look at me and be like, cut this. And then he would look and he would talk to his friend or he would basically tell me, or I had to leave. He would be like, Hey, if you’re going to keep filming, walk away. But if I wanted to be privy to what they were going to say, he couldn’t be on camera. Yeah, couldn’t be on camera. And it was never anything, I can’t remember anything. It was never anything like, Hey, I fucking hope Patrick Vellner loses nothing. Like, you know what I mean? It was nothing crazy or hey, we lubed up Brent ows key’s, pull up bar to fuck with them. Nothing like that.

Tyler Watkins (23:30):

Tens really not a lot.

Sevan Matossian (23:33):

10 a day. Like cut it. No,

Tyler Watkins (23:34):

That’s not very many.

Sevan Matossian (23:35):

No, but what’s crazy, what’s interesting is JR noticed that is right when the behind the scenes start, I’m in his hotel room and he goes, okay, cut it. Let’s talk. Yep. He wants to have a real conversation with me. Cut it. And it’s cool that Will and Rios left that in like, Hey, enough of this fake shit. Let’s talk for a second. Summer Hughes. Hey girl, what’s up? Thank you. Appreciate it, appreciate it, appreciate it, appreciate it. Hey Black John Young. Just want to say hi. Don’t even care what you’re saying. Just want to say hi. Okay, here we go.

Andrew Hiller (24:05):

Not a member.

Sevan Matossian (24:07):

No, not a member.

Dave Castro (24:09):

He can’t afford that on my Instagram account.

Sevan Matossian (24:12):

Does Dave bring that friend as a way to stop Sev on? No, no, no, no, no.

Dave Castro (24:20):

And I actually posted some climate change books. I was reading those close to me. No climate change. The topic is something I’m really passionate about and consume a lot of content on. And I read from all perspectives on the topic and I post from different perspectives. And one of the books I posted was from one side. And the comments on that post were like, I can’t believe you’re supporting this. How could you think this way? Blah, blah, blah. How do you, and again, the consumption of content or the reading of a book of someone you might not necessarily agree with is not an endorsement of that side. And it was at that time, well, that was several years ago and I was blown away by this notion of just because I’m reading about and even a post fucking, even a post, I post a lot of things that sometimes I don’t agree with. I think it’s okay to post something or post a book and talk about a book even if it’s not the stance you take on things. One other thing about Upton sin Clay that I wanted,

Andrew Hiller (25:15):

He’s talking too much. He feels uncomfortable. Nobody asked Dave.

Sevan Matossian (25:24):

He talked about climate change and how he’s read both sides. There was something I was going to ask you guys,

Andrew Hiller (25:29):

Eight minute segment on how he reads both sides.

Sevan Matossian (25:32):

Yeah. Does anybody Go ahead. No, you go ahead, Tyler.

Tyler Watkins (25:35):

Does anybody know what post he’s talking about? When he started talking about climate change, I was like, please go deeper. I knew he wasn’t going to, but

Sevan Matossian (25:42):

It was a while back. It was over a year ago. He posted both. He read a book that was like, Hey, there’s no such thing as climate change. And then another book that was like, Hey, hey dude, could I call you back in 20 minutes? I’m just finishing podcast.

Andrew Hiller (25:55):


Sevan Matossian (25:56):

Okay, thanks, bye. He posted one that was like, Hey, there’s no such thing as climate change. It’s bullshit. There’s no proof of it. And posted some stuff on it and then one that was like, Hey, there’s for sure climate change. And he posted some stuff about it. So everyone’s like, well, what fucking side are you on? And his point is, Hey, I can read, can read both sides. I only know that I remember that. But here’s my question for you, John Young, all you’ll have a chance at this one. What do you think he started that TDC Hunts account because he’s really into guns. He’s into making bullets, he’s into guns, he’s into gun competition, he’s into hunting. He was obviously a former seal and he used guns to fight for the freedoms for those of us in this country. Do you think that that’s smart? He did that? Or do you think that that’s lame, that he has to separate his gun life from the Dave Castro account?

John Young (26:48):

No, I think that’s fine, Dave. I mean, I feel like a lot of people have their personal account and then they have an account of something like their hobby. Hiller’s got eight different accounts for various reasons. John Young CrossFit is my personal account, and then I have my barbell account. I know it’s a little bit different, but a lot of people have different accounts for their various hobbies.

Sevan Matossian (27:15):

The barbell one’s, the one Hiller bought all the fake followers for you.

John Young (27:18):

Yes, it is. That was nice though. Thank you for telling everybody that. Oh no, no,

Andrew Hiller (27:23):

They’re real.

Sevan Matossian (27:25):

They’re real guys in India Hill. What do you think about separating him, his guns from his real account? It’s not like he’s hiding it either, but just to keep the controversy down to a minimum.

Andrew Hiller (27:35):

See, what happens is, and you’re well aware of this, is there’s going to be people who don’t like it and then they’re going to put his big account in danger and he needs that thing. So I think it’s intelligent. I mean, I’m surprised that Rich is putting his account in that sort of cross hair crossfire.

John Young (27:50):

I don’t know if he hunts enough though, but it’s

Andrew Hiller (27:52):

A big dead bear and everyone’s going to get all pissy and then Instagram’s going to yank as a countdown.

Sevan Matossian (27:58):

Boy, that’s a very interesting thing. Someone maybe So like, Hey, no harm, no foul. You’re not being a pussy rich. Just start rich froning hunts.

John Young (28:07):

Can you not show Instagram like dude, the Instagram headquarters? No, no, I know, I know. But can you not show Instagram headquarters like a whole bunch of pictures of people with dead bears and be like, why are you retaking this guy now? Not all

Sevan Matossian (28:20):

These other guys. No. There’s standing up. No, no. The appeals process is done completely in the dark. You don’t know shit. Yeah,

Andrew Hiller (28:26):

You’re banged.

Sevan Matossian (28:27):

Yeah. Hey dude, I showed this totally. So they’re just

John Young (28:31):

Liberal. The people who run it and then there’s everybody else is hopeless.

Sevan Matossian (28:35):

I don’t know. Yeah, well they are liberal, but all the social media platforms are pretty much being run by liberals except for Twitter. But yeah, basically it’s at their discretion. There’s some 27-year-old girl and it’s at her discretion.

Andrew Hiller (28:50):

She likes Bears

Sevan Matossian (28:52):

Jr. What do you think about separate accounts? Do you think that’s smart? I like what Hiller said. I surpris. This is turning to Pedro show. I should start giving points and shit.

Andrew Hiller (28:59):

That’s what I was thinking earlier.

JR Howell (29:01):

I’m not surprised that all these chosen to do it. One of the things you would always kind of commend Dave on in the early years, and it’s really something I’ve tried to do in my life, is compartmentalization of things. So I have my account and it’s who I am as a person, maybe tied to my role at CrossFit. And then I have this other part of me that’s separate and that’s just this over here. And I don’t mix the two and there’s no crossover between the two. And then I have this other thing that I do over here. So I’m not surprised at all that he does that.

John Young (29:36):

Tyler’s got the same thing with Heat one. Heat one’s its own app, and Texas is his personal account.

Sevan Matossian (29:43):

That’s for business reasons. If Dave started an olive oil account, I would know it, but I’m just saying I think he’s not trying to make money off the guns. He’s just doing it. So he doesn’t, what I think now, I didn’t understand it before, is what Hiller’s saying he didn’t want to post a bunch of gun shit and lose his account with 750,000 and Dave’s followers are real.

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