Sevan Matossian (00:04):
Bam. We’re live. I think I’m losing my voice again. I think we’re live. Are we live? There’s no one watching Brandon Smith. What’s up buddy? Good to see you. Thanks for the membership. There we go. Six viewers. This is going to be a wild one. I hope there’s only six. I haven’t seen this show yet, but boy, so many people are talking. So many people are talking. Holy shit. The chatter. Emma. Hi. Thanks a nice color. Ian. What’s up dude, Scott. Yo, this is going to be good. This one’s going to be Wiley. I think it’s 28 minutes, man. Let’s go. Stevon almost got your voice back. I lost it again today. I got two fit aids for this show. It been a long day. Been a long, long day doing Daddy shit it 28 minutes and 37 seconds. I don’t watch these beforehand, but I’ve never gotten so many texts about A TDC weekend review. This is going to be wild. Brandon Lacock, by the way. Thank you. Brandon Smith. Smart money. How is anyone not a CEO member? Do it. Can’t wait to hear your reaction. Yeah, my dms, I’ve probably gotten 20 dms and probably got 20 text messages.
(01:42):
It’s going to be tough. I don’t want to conflate, I don’t want to conflate issues. I want to stay true to the point the entire time. I almost feel like making a preemptive strike before I even see the Dave’s week in review. It’s amazing. It’s amazing the courage it takes to stand up for people who are part of a class where that class is being demanded to play victim, right? So whatever class you’re in, whitey, cripple, blacky, just whatever, chewy, packy, pally, espan, there’s this demand somewhere. Always each class, each group, each demographic for whatever your shit is, there’s someone out there demanding you play the victim and the real courage and the people who really give a fuck and they’re the only ones are hillbilly.
(02:53):
I don’t know very much. I dunno about the hillbilly victim mindset, but every group, there’s someone out there demanding you play the victim. There’s some narrative and then there’s fucking bad motherfuckers like me who are like, Hey, I’ll stand up for those people. You know what I mean? I got a little means. You know what I mean? I can cover my mortgage every month. It’s like, okay, I’m not afraid to be canceled. I’ll do the real courageous part. I’ll give a place for black people who don’t want to play the victim to just be themselves, just believe in themselves. I’ll give a place for fucking dwarfs to be themselves and not play the victim where you can just hang out and just be you. Just chill. No one’s demanding. You play the victim.
(03:39):
I’ll give a place for Jews to not have to hate and I’ll give a place for Palestinians not to have to hate. Yeah. CMO, bad motherfucker. Thank you. That’s the courage. The courage is the fat people who stand up for during the covid and be like, Hey, yo, it’s us. Old motherfuckers would be like, yo, it’s us. Who would stand up instead of play the victim? I don’t think you can be in here for this show. I don’t know. Yeah, you can, but I can’t put your mic on. I know. Okay. I love you. How was Juujitsu? Good kicked ass.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Yeah, I sparked with Nico.
Sevan Matossian (04:19):
Oh, you did? Alright. You have a live audience today. Okay. Anyway, that’s just a little preemptive strike. The gay community. It doesn’t want the P attached to the LGB doesn’t want the LGB community that doesn’t want TQP attached to it. This is a place for you. This is not a place for Pedos though. Sorry, I got my limits. This is a place for tranny. Totally fine. Love, tranny, porn, stars, priests, all of ’em. But I do have my limits. I’m not perfect. Sorry. Christians’, atheists, all you motherfuckers love you guys. Okay, but if you demand people, play the victim and you’re going to make claims. Your personal own psychosis is feeling sorry for yourself. Someone cuts you off and they think they did it to you. I used to think when I was a little kid, people didn’t respect me. I was a little kid and anyone who wants to play that victim role, I like you, but we’re going to tussle. I’m going to call it out how it is. I don’t think it’s a big deal. I don’t think it’s a big deal that Greg Glassman says he doesn’t mourn the death of George Floyd. I do think it’s a big deal if you say I don’t hire people, I hire people based on their skin color genitalia and then preference of genitalia they’d like on their face. Those are, but I still don’t dislike you, but we’re going to have words.
(06:04):
Hawk Toy Girl. She’s dope. I bet I could talk my wife into, I bet you no, nah, nah. The big boy dream. You step off this. Nope. When I first started the podcast, I was desperate for a Fit aid sponsorship. Now I’m so big it doesn’t even matter. I got a hundred live listeners. Look at me. I’m the shit Dave Castro. We can review June 24th. Oh, it’s summer started right? June 21st of summer 2024. We can review Athlete interview series, Rogan Peds and CrossFit Nutrition. CrossFit documentary Hiller with one L. What a douche canoe. Come on Dave,
Dave Castro (07:00):
We can review June 24th.
Sevan Matossian (07:04):
I lowered my mic so that Dave’s will be louder so you guys could turn up your TVs or computers or whatever you need to. That’s rock and
Dave Castro (07:12):
Roll 2024. I am trying this new streamy yard set up that I’m using for these interviews I’m doing with the athletes. So that’s why I’m looking around to see the time. I don’t see where my time is on this to see how long I go.
Sevan Matossian (07:29):
Listen, I’m putting up the phone number too for this one. Let’s make this just a straight fucking party. Where’s the phone numbers? Banners. Okay, here we go.
Dave Castro (07:41):
Anyway, let’s dive into it before I get into comments, a couple of points. So I started this new series where I’m going to interview, I’m going to try to interview all the athletes, all 80 of ’em prior to the games and it’s going to be from five to 10 minutes long. And the point of this, especially the last since probably 17 and on, maybe 18 after 18, 19 and on, I feel like I really have been disconnected from and don’t really know a lot of the athletes, especially last year when I went to the games I didn’t know any of them and I’m also not really following on social media or engage like that. So I figured, well, I might as well try to just briefly get to know some of the athletes and why not record it and then put it out as
Sevan Matossian (08:25):
I’m surprised Dave hasn’t mentioned this before. There used to be a series, I don’t know when it was, but Dave did it and I did it and it was called the three minute interview or something. It could have been back in 2010 or 11, 12, 13, 14, something like there. So him and I dabbled in a show like that before it was called the Three Minute interview or something.
Dave Castro (08:46):
It’s a little video. So this will give me an opportunity to touch base with, talk to each athlete and again, most, I don’t know, a few I know I know really well like Brooke and so it’ll be a fun and even with Brooke, I learned something new. So it’ll be a fun little drill, fun little exercise and some cool content for the community. So one down 79 to go. I have a number of other ones set up, so I’ll start cranking those out. And to be honest, throughout a day I’m going to end up having to put out multiple clips of different athletes as I interview ’em again. And the point is really short, five to 10 minutes long to the point. Specifically going to ask a lot about their CrossFit experience, benchmarks. I’m interested in knowing some of their benchmarks and what their thoughts are on the games for where we’re at with the process and what we’ve announced.
Sevan Matossian (09:32):
I don’t know if it was only the Brook episode or somewhere else. When I heard Dave talking about this, he seemed a little shy and shoulders in when he talked about it and hands in front of him, kind of a little insecure about it and now you can tell already he got the Brook one out. It’s doing great. It’s approaching 10,000 views. He feels confident, so that’s good. He’s leveling up and he’s got his game face on.
Dave Castro (09:54):
As you saw last week we announced, as you might’ve seen, we announced the,
Sevan Matossian (09:59):
Are the athletes required to do this to go to the games? I don’t know James, but they should be, but they should be if they want go the professional route, if they want to professionalize themselves, that would be something that they would have probably in a contract or if they want to do their part to level up the sport. Yeah, they should get on there with Dave.
Dave Castro (10:25):
Yeah, Barrington Field as an option for or not as an option, as a Friday Night Lights event. So basically from eight to 10 we’re going to have events out there and Farrington field seats 18,000 people. Our stadium, what we sold for Dickies is around 9,000. So the Farrington field events team and individual is open to anyone, so it’s, we’re not going to ticket it. Anyone can show up the 9,000 people who have tickets for the Coliseum. You will probably with no issue have a seat in the other venue because I’ve seen some comments where people are asking if they have specific seating over in the other venue. It seats 18,000 people again, so there will be no issue with seating. I do not really see a scenario where 10,000 other people come just to check out that event. If it did, I mean that’d be pretty cool. But every time we’ve done stuff like this where we’ve had free events, at most it’s a couple thousand, but maybe here in Texas with the strong affiliate network, we’ll be able to rally and have more.
Sevan Matossian (11:24):
If you’re in the area, you got to go to this, it’s free. The games are not inexpensive, but if you’re in the area, you should definitely go to this. You should bring your mom, your dad, your kids. These events are awesome. They’re so family friendly, the energy will be great. I’m not sure if they’ll do a vendor village or anything there, but they’re great and I really do hope they sell all 18,000 or give away all 18,000 seats. That’ll be awesome. It’ll be great for the athletes too. The roar will be insane if that place does fill up. It’ll become the most memorable moment in probably CrossFit game’s history outside of maybe a few things from Carson. That being said, I have engaged, I am in full engagement with CrossFit now and in communications about getting all access pass so that I can go everywhere Dave goes so that I can replicate the behind the scenes like I did last year.
Dave Castro (12:16):
So another thing I want to talk about related to the games, I saw that clip about Joe Rogan where he and apparently the guy from this event where they don’t test anyone where they allow everything, where talking about steroids or performance enhancing drugs in the games and the guy, the guest made a comment about, oh, well 22 and before they probably weren’t doing anything and Rogan made some insinuations or some comments about that we don’t test. But look, we’ve been testing from the second games on and in the second game, I’ll tell you this big lesson learned
Sevan Matossian (12:48):
For, I did read the comments from this video already before watching the video. I don’t know if I read all of them, but one of the comments in there is from someone and it says, Hey, someone came and tested my wife three days ago, which is pretty awesome. That was just ridiculous what they said on Rogan
Dave Castro (13:04):
For me in this role and for me kind of heading this sport up for almost the last two decades. In the second games, someone approached us and said they’re willing to fund and test all of the athletes that were there. Actually it was the third games, not the second, it was the third games and it was the first year that we had actually qualifiers to get to the games. And so we were committed to doing the testing and all about it. And so at the games they tested all the athletes and one athlete, one athlete of all the athletes that year failed the drug test. This guy failed for everything. He had the masking agents for the stuff he failed for, and so it was a plethora of things that it popped on this time and this time only. That was the third year of the games because he was active duty military at the time.
(13:52):
We decided to not publicize the results and then months later after that, so we didn’t tell the world he failed. We actually removed him I think from the leaderboard. He didn’t do too hot anyway, so I don’t think it mattered, but that was the only time we ever did anything like that and it was a huge lesson learned and basically a few months later after that I was like, we could never do that again. Even active duty military or whatnot, we can’t not publish the results. I say that because it’s insinuated often and we get accused of protecting athletes or doing things like that where we don’t tell the world the real test results. After that, once we did start testing over the years and once we had to fund it, it’s really expensive to test the entire field. So pretty much consistent from back then.
(14:37):
We tested all the regional qualifiers and then a large number at the games and then throughout the season we’d have off season tests. And it’s interesting because someone sent me that clip that Hiller put out where there’s a froning line where he goes, Froning and Sherwood are talking. And Froning said something like surprise tests or random tests. What he meant there, and I think this has been misconstrued by a lot of people, people think or it sounds like he’s saying random as if he knew it was coming. That’s not what he meant by that and that wasn’t what he was talking about. He meant random as if he was randomly selected. No, no, no, no, no. He wasn’t randomly selected. His time was random when he got it. But what I mean by that is of course Rich had multiple random tests throughout his competitive and Frasier too throughout their competitive when they were competing and being dominant. We had a list of people and we said, test those guys and test them randomly. So they didn’t know when the testers were coming, but they were definitely because of their success and because of how well they were doing, they were targeted and tested in the off season at much higher,
Sevan Matossian (15:45):
Completely fucking normal. If you’re going to test people, you have to have a fucking list of people you’re going to test. So you have a tester and I’m like, Hey, these are the people you’re going to test and you’re going to test Tia Tomi, who’s the guy at the top for the guys, Jeffrey Adler, Roman Koff, Ariel Lowen, Alex Gaza, who’s some other good dudes? Justin Maderis. Here’s the list and we’re going to test those people. Makes complete fucking sense. I don’t even get it. I think that anyone could even ask Greg this, Dave this, anyone at CrossFit, this in my tenure there at CrossFit, I weaved in and out of more departments or I was as knowledgeable about as anyone ever was about in the breadth of what was going on at hq. I was close friends with a lot of people and I never ever heard anything about anyone being gone after for vindictiveness or for letting someone cheat or letting someone get away with the test. Dave was absolutely very clear that he didn’t care who popped or didn’t pop. It’s so weird to hear this discussion because I know the scene so intimately and anyone who thinks that’s fucking crazy
Dave Castro (17:22):
Intervals then everyone else, so that
Sevan Matossian (17:25):
There was no one ever attached to HQ who were like, oh my God, you brought in so much money for us. Some people would argue that Rich helped grow the sport, but there was no one ever that it was like, man, that person’s our shining star and we have to protect them and we need to raise. There was never anything like that. Never, never, ever, ever.
Dave Castro (17:44):
That wasn’t an accident. And it wasn’t as if he had any advanced knowledge that he was going to be tested that
Sevan Matossian (17:50):
Day. As a matter of fact, it was probably harder on Rich if you were to ask Rich, Hey, did they go easy on you? Not probably. I know he would say that and so would Matt. They got less preferential treatment,
Dave Castro (18:03):
But the fact that he was being tested, that part was totally set up. And so of course we have to pick a number of people. Throughout the years, there was a list of several to over a dozen people that were getting tested. You could guess who we were testing people like Dan Bailey and people who had a lot who were really good and there were also a lot of questions and they were all coming back clean. Here’s the other thing I’ll tell you, and a lot of people close to me and a lot of people in the sport know this. I would love to catch any of them. I don’t fucking care. I’m not like, oh, we need to protect Rich, or Oh, we need to protect Matt Frazier, or Oh, we need to protect Tia. No, no, no, no. If they’re cheating and we have an opportunity to catch them, I would love for us to catch them
Sevan Matossian (18:43):
And that I didn’t want to say that, but that’s the message Dave would give us consistently throughout the year. That’s what you would hear from him to everyone internally, externally, he was always open. I’d love to catch someone.
Dave Castro (18:57):
And also now, so we use drug free sport for our testing. It’s now also who the UFC uses. I’m pretty sure the UFC uses, they left theirs and now I’m pretty sure they use drug Freeport, but we also, it’s a third party, so we’re not the ones who are looking at the results or taking the samples and then analyzing them. We have a third party who does it for us and we tested every qualifier at semifinals and large number of, we’ll test all the podium at the games and then down the field a little. So we take it very seriously and we have since the earliest days. And that story I told you about 2009 was a huge lesson learned and a huge mistake on our part. On my part. And I mean, again, this was the infancy of the sport and the reason was noble in intent. We were trying to protect this guy from getting in trouble with the military, but after the fact, I regretted it. I didn’t think for the sake of the sport and the future of the sport, we couldn’t do that again. Alright, enough on that.
Sevan Matossian (19:55):
The guy was really cool who popped and we made videos with him at Camp Pendleton, Pendleton Pendleton, and he was a CrossFitter through and through and I don’t have a problem with protecting the dude in the military, kick him out of the sport, give him the band. There’s no reason to fuck his job at wherever the fuck he is.
Dave Castro (20:19):
So there was one other thing I wanted to say about, hold on. Okay, I’m going to jump into comments now.
Sevan Matossian (20:28):
It’s not that CrossFit doesn’t test, it’s that it’s subpar. If you make semifinals, you need to be entered into a year-round pool like the UFC does. If you leave the pool or fail a test, a lifetime ban, you don’t get a lifetime ban in the UFC. John Jones, I can’t remember if it was John Jones or someone was supposed to get a two year ban, it ended up only being one. They do do year round tests. That’s what he just said that they did. And there’s people who’d never even made it to the semifinals. There was some lady who never made it out of the open who was tested one year. So I dunno, I hear you Mark Queena, but I don’t agree.
Dave Castro (21:13):
And so remember the comments, I have not looked at them and they’re sorted from, I’m going top to bottom and they’re sorted by top comments. So they become top comments by getting thumbs up. Peter Shaw, good friend at Peter Shaw, four always fires me up to hear your enthusiasm for the games. Dave, thanks. I’ve commented something similar in the past, but jumping in on the convo again, I qualified for the games in 2020 and on a team in 2022. So I can attest to the amount of training that it takes to get there. Certainly conducive to burnout towards the end. As I age, I would consistently take one month off completely from training. My last year is less for the body and more for the mind. I didn’t want anything to do with it. Currently following a combination of cap proven in my own stuff, one workout per day with intensity, just as you described, is the way to sustainably train for the rest of your life.
(21:57):
For most people, heck, many times nowadays I’m only spending 30 to 40 minutes max in the garage. I do the same. If you want to get more bang for your buck, I always encourage people to make changes in the kitchen instead of adding volume to training. Most are blown away with how fit they can get with one workout per day when they follow something like the zone diet. Second place to tell ’em to look is in the intensity. Can you go 1% harder in your workout? Do that before adding volume and you’ll reap the benefits. It takes enormous psychological capacity to go harder compared to simply walking through more volume. Have a great day, great comment. Peter, thank you. Thank you for supporting and validating some of the points I was talking about. And you hit something that it’s funny because actually when I finished this last week, I walked away and went, damn, I didn’t talk about one of the most important pieces in all of this.
(22:36):
Nutrition is like the most important piece in results and or intensity or you not feeling like you’re making progress. So oftentimes people look to programming and say, oh, I’m not making the results I need, or I’m not making the progress I need with my body or with my times or loads. So I need to switch programmers or I need to chase the flavor of the day in that world. And really a good coach and a good trainer will actually look at someone’s diet first. That’s the first place. If you’re not seeing the results you need or want, that’s the first place you need to look at is nutrition and then tighten nutrition up and then you can start looking at the other things. Thanks a lot Pete. I had Austin Fairbanks.
Sevan Matossian (23:15):
Greg would stand up in front of crowds all the time and be like, Hey man, I know you guys see me as the fitness guy and I want to tell you fitness is the magic bullet, but the truth is it’s nutrition, nutrition, nutrition, nutrition, nutrition. If you could only keep one fitness or nutrition, you keep nutrition every day. 10 out of 10 times
Dave Castro (23:32):
9, 1, 4, 2. I really like what Marcus Philly is doing, but also love CrossFit at Mitch Collins, 58 40 Dave, your counsel about the risks of movement. His medicine are spot on. This is conceptually similar to the issues CF has had. Fighting off nutritionists. Yeah, so it ultimately can lead to negative legislation, so pay attention to that X RO P six four. It’s funny, all the, do
Sevan Matossian (23:52):
You guys get that? That’s from last week. There’s this under the guise of exercises, medicine. You have to be careful because usually behind organizations like that it’s big pharma, big food. And what they’re basically trying to do is put legislation and licensure around exercise so they can control that too. And they want to try to claim that you can exercise away a bad diet and you cannot. Darren Coughlin, the most important aspect of testing process is proper intelligence of potential testing targets. Oh, okay. There you go. I think that kind of coincides with what Dave is saying. We make the list
Dave Castro (24:38):
Bullshit Dave has to deal with. It’s funny how anything a person will do can be found to be insulting by another human job. Human. Good job Dave. And always pay attention to that.
Sevan Matossian (24:47):
Let’s listen to this very quickly and we’ll bring this comment up later on today,
Dave Castro (24:51):
X RO P six four. It’s funny, all the bullshit Dave has to deal with. It’s funny how anything a person will do can be found to be insulting by another human job. Human. Good job, Dave, on always smiling.
Sevan Matossian (25:01):
People can always find what you’re saying as insulting.
Dave Castro (25:06):
Thank you. See Simon Eyes 52, 77. Hi Dave. Thanks for the weekly updates. I really enjoy your interaction with our community. A few weeks back you challenged Andrew Hillary to make a video with all the positive things he’s done for Prophet. Did you manage to watch this video and what’s your impression of it? Also, has your journey reading the Bible, progressing, finished with the Bible? Really enjoyed it. I don’t think I’m ready to talk about it. I just don’t think or I want to. Let me say something about that. I think especially when people get platforms like this, I think they feel like they have to spew everything out about their personal lives, about their journeys and hey, there’s a lot of stuff that I’m going to keep to myself and I don’t want to share with the world or I don’t feel comfortable. That is one of them, but I highly recommend it. I’m also,
Sevan Matossian (25:43):
Yeah, you don’t feel comfortable. You don’t feel comfortable
Dave Castro (25:48):
Watching the chosen right now. That’s really good. If you haven’t seen the series of the chosen, check it out. It was nice. Someone recommended that once I told him I was reading the Bible, nice to watch after having read the Bible. I don’t know, did he make one about being positive or about the positive things? I did not watch it. I’ll get to the rest in a second.
Sevan Matossian (26:09):
Andrew did make a video of the positive things and one of the things that he said in there was he pointed out it was a list of 10 things he’s done positive or 13. And one of them is how many times he stood up to fight off outside interests or outside forces that try to interfere with the CrossFit ecosystem and beat them down. And he gave some examples and I thought that was very, very poignant
Dave Castro (26:43):
At Whitney Davis. 1, 3, 4, 4. With keeping the athlete’s safety in mind. Why did you not all make them come down the rope to a certain line before jumping off? Love these weekend reviews, keep it up. You can’t wait for the games. At least they cut the rope to avoid feet. Ankle injuries. That one we’ve gone back and forth on and the speed at which they’re descending down the rope is so hard to judge and make the call with they’re above the line or they’re both below the line. So that’s a tough one. Could have did not in this environment. And that being said, I don’t know if there was the amount of injuries for that movement too. Were pretty, I think I heard someone might have one person might have got injured in Europe coming down from the rope, but there is some level of self-preservation in all of this that the athletes need to take accountability. For
Sevan Matossian (27:24):
Those of you who are worried about injury shit and saying it’s paramount, you don’t know what the word paramount means. If you think safety is paramount, then you would never even do CrossFit. You would never do anything. You would fucking get up in the morning and just stay perfectly steel still. You wouldn’t even use a fork or a knife. It’s fucking idiocy. And just put things in context. CrossFit is not safe or dangerous unless you put it in context. Put it to the injuries that have occurred in Olympic trials around the world. Heat stroke in Mecca, deaths in Mecca injuries in Pop Warner, football injuries in running, you injury. People are twats. There’s some things to learn from cutting the rope. There’s no point in having the excess rope down there. It’s not needed, not a part of the game. But the point is it’s about speed and intensity and let them come down the fucking rope as fast as they want.
Dave Castro (28:31):
And again, so coming down the rope quickly, under enough control to not break a leg or turn something. One second. One second
Sevan Matossian (28:42):
Time for sip of fit aid
Dave Castro (28:46):
Versus something like the rebound boxing or event. Everyone will have to do it because for the speed I view a little differently. How about this? For the first event of the CrossFit games, a thousand burpees for time. This is Justin or Justin. Three. One. I would watch every second. Thank you for all you do for the community. And someone said
Sevan Matossian (29:03):
One time Miko Salo, 2009 CrossFit games champion told me he did a thousand burpees for time. I go, what about it? He goes, that was just stupid. It’s stupid programming. It’s just dumb, dumb, dumb. Miko. Salo,
Dave Castro (29:17):
Insanity, and then burn. 1808. Hi Dave. Recently, US Army revised a general physical fitness test, the Army combat fitness test, A CFT 4.0 to establish new combat readiness standards of scales based on gender and age standards have been modified to promote and reflect what the army terms holistic health domains and inclusivity minimum requirements have been made more lenient
Sevan Matossian (29:34):
Based on sex and age, genders, imagination made up shit. It’s based on sex and
Dave Castro (29:40):
Age healthy, 17 to 21-year-old males. Presumably the fittest physical cohort can now receive a passing grade by completing a two mile run in 22 minutes or less. A three rep max ad-lib of 140 pounds, 10 pushups, two minutes requirements of further scale based on age and gender characteristics. Yeah, there’s a lot. And then there’s a lot of comments on this.
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