Our Thoughts | CrossFit Games Releases TWO Events | Shut Up & Scribble Ep. 9

Taylor Self (00:01):

Wow. Okay. First things first. I’ve got 30 seconds until I can say the F word. So just gimme 30 seconds and Will Branstetter is gonna be on in one minute to fix our overlay and to play our sick new intro tunes.

JR Howell (00:21):

Um, I haven’t even, I haven’t even listened to that yet, so it better be good.

Taylor Self (00:23):

It’s, it’s, you’re gonna laugh, you’re gonna laugh. It’s good. Um, real quick, I can talk about this though. Coming up in October, crash Crucible, the fourth iteration, the Reto Savage event put on by JR and CrossFit Crash. Will you wanna talk a little bit about that?

JR Howell (00:44):

Yeah, we can. I mean, there’s, um, some announcements starting to be made now tomorrow. Uh, the equipment list for the online qualifier comes out. Uh, nice. You can go to the Crucible or the CrossFit Crash Instagram pages to click on the link to register for the online qualifier, um, individual semi-finalists and returning 2022 Crucible top five athletes are foregoing the online qualifier, but everyone else is doing that. Um, masters is invite only this year, so there’s no online qualifier for that division, but, um, I’m excited to even release the equipment list. I think there’s, um, some things that will be pretty cool that people probably have in their gyms and have had in their gyms for years. But online qualifiers tend to stick to really basic equipment lists. But I’m gonna branch out a little bit on the, uh, on the needs and it gives everyone, you know, almost a full month to make sure that they have what they need for the qualifier.

Taylor Self (01:43):

Can you hear me?

JR Howell (01:44):


Taylor Self (01:45):

Okay. We’re, my mic was all the way over there. I forgot and then I unplugged it while you were talking. Okay. Dope. So that’s, and did you talk any, did you say anything about how the workouts are reprogrammed events from the games and regionals?

JR Howell (01:58):

No, I didn’t. So even starting with the online qualifier, those will be, um, re reprogrammed versions of open workouts and most people that know the sport and have been doing the sport a while will be able to see it and automatically know mm-hmm. <affirmative>, oh, I know what, I know what open workout that’s based off of. But the in-person events are going to be regionals and CrossFit games, reprogrammed workouts. I know that’s a big risk. I know people have tried to do it in the competition space before. Some have been really good with it, some not so good. Um, but I look forward to, um, that challenge and kind of showing everyone that even though maybe I’m using the canvas of someone else’s art, um, I’m kind of switching out the, the brush strokes and the colors to kind of make it my own. And I think it’s gonna be a really cool event.

Taylor Self (02:46):

Alright, we’re three minutes in. I’m fucking excited, baby for this. ’cause I do think it’s a bold move, but I also think you’re probably one of the most creative programming minds I’ve ever seen. And I get so pumped at seeing workouts. You write, and I’ve seen some of these and they’re savage. So that’s jr’s event. A month later we have the Charlotte Classic at CrossFit Charlotte. This is my event. Me and Brian are putting this on Brian Friend that is putting this on this year. I posted, uh, well, I guess that video’s gonna come out next week. Will, we talked a little bit about in a, in a video that’s gonna come out in a week, um, the theme of our event, it’s, this is the third iteration and we’ve got an elite RX Masters 40 plus in a community division. It’s all individual. November 17th, the 19th.


Um, that video’s gonna come out, but essentially you see Django Unchained on the cover. One, he’s a fucking G. So that’s just cool. Two, the event is my creative processes were sparked by this book series I’m reading called The Dark Tower by Stephen King, and I’m on the last book, and Idriss Elba plays the character in the TV series. And so I kind of sent that idea to Will of like, Hey, this is all the theme’s gonna be the dark tower, the gun slinger. And he sent me the poster Art for Django. And I was like, holy shit. That’s so cool. So,

JR Howell (04:14):

So, I mean, kind of expound upon that a little bit. Did you take that even into how you wrote the workouts? Not like just the titles of the workouts? No, no. <laugh> not knowing anything about the novel. Is it gonna be like, more than usual? Will there be workouts that you kind of have to like, call your shot and take risks to do? Well, like,

Taylor Self (04:32):

Oh, there’s a hundred percent gonna be. Yeah. I, I have such a weird creative process and I talked about this in the reel too. Like, I was like, a couple weeks ago I was, couldn’t sleep. I was reading this book and like one thing stuck out at me and I was like, holy fuck, that’s the theme. And it’s just one piece. Um, this evil implement in the storyline, I’ll say I can, can’t give any away anything else other than that. And I just like, whoa, that’d be a sick workout name. Whoa, I know how to make a really cool workout that fits that workout name perfectly. Then I already knew what movements I wanted to be in it, and then it just kind of blossomed from there. So I would say how, you know, we’ve talked before about how you have like one workout that everything else is kind of built around. It started with that. Um, and they, they all, it’s, it’s just the book series is perfect for the storyline of a CrossFit competition. The event names how they feel. It just, yeah, I’m so pumped, so pumped about it and I just did it. It’s really

JR Howell (05:41):

Cool. Yeah. You’re letting your, uh, you’re letting your kind of inner nerd come out, which

Taylor Self (05:44):

Is cool. Yeah. And the past two years it’s been kind of loosely a similar theme based off like Ready Player one, kind of like gaming, retro pop culture type stuff, which is like my favorite movie this year. I, i, going forward, I I hope that it continues to evolve and it’s something different each year. Um, this is gonna be super cool. Um, but yeah, check those events out, they’re sick. Um, and then of course we’re also me JR. And Brian Friender programming for Desert City Classic, which is a week before my event in November as well. Um, so check that out too. But, uh, let’s, do you want to play our intro music real quick? Dude, you got that uploaded. Just play it, dude.

Speaker 3 (06:27):

Yeah, I’ll play

JR Howell (06:27):

It. It better be good. I, I didn’t, I didn’t, I didn’t sign off on this. You didn’t listen. No, I haven’t listened to it all. Ladies a ju

Speaker 4 (06:33):

Up the behavior.

Speaker 5 (06:39):

So keep the political commentary to yourself or as someone once said, shut up and dribble.

Speaker 3 (06:57):

There you go. The little remix.

JR Howell (06:59):

That’s incredible.

Taylor Self (07:00):

Avon’s gonna come in his pants when he hears Bruce Buffer. Did you,

JR Howell (07:03):

Did you think about, did you think about like, ladies juggle up.

Speaker 3 (07:07):

Oh man, stop

Taylor Self (07:07):

Playing. You’re on a loop, dude, come on. It’s so dumb.

JR Howell (07:10):

Did you think about when she says dribble, just just having your voice say scribble over it. <laugh>, change

Speaker 3 (07:17):

That thought about that. But I was like,

Taylor Self (07:19):

That’d be so cool.

JR Howell (07:20):

I dunno. I think, I think reminding people, or at least like telling people where the show name comes from is pretty cool. ’cause I don’t know how many people actually saw that the first time and went understand it. Wait a minute, is that an allusion to, uh, shut up and dribble?

Speaker 3 (07:35):

Yeah. Legendary.

Taylor Self (07:37):

This kind of also, uh, an homage to Savon being so politically charged and we don’t really go there, even though I am too personally. Um, but all right, Helen. In the five k I predict a five K swim on a trail, like a fish on dry land <laugh> a five K crawl. A five K Army crawl. Dude, they should have bear crawls in the CrossFit games. Hot take.

JR Howell (08:07):

That’s pretty hot. I, I, uh, <laugh> while there, there are like Brenton, the hero workout is, uh, bear Crawl and broad jump.

Taylor Self (08:16):


JR Howell (08:16):

For, for, for distance with a vest. I, I don’t, I don’t think they would ever do it at the games.

Taylor Self (08:22):

So this is one of the hardest, um, real quick Will what time tomorrow for testing with Brian <laugh>? Like 9:00 AM Yeah, that’s fine. Okay. Um, the hardest workout, one of the hardest workouts I’ve ever done. I did one I’ll, I’ll say it, um, that I did the other day, but the other one, um, Austin Mallilo and James Hobart posted an iteration of the Hero Alwin Cash mm-hmm. <affirmative>, and I don’t think it made the cut, but it was one mile run, 400 meter bear crawl, 100 burpees, 400 meter bear crawl, one mile run in a vest. And let me tell you, brother shoulders were smoked. The hardest workout I’ve done in recent memory I did the other day was in a vest for time, 50 chest of bar pull-ups, 30 dumbbell box step overs with 50 20 devil’s press, 35 dumbbell push press and 50 burpee pull-ups. And my vest was covered in snot and I took a knee a couple times, which is typically, I’m, I’m really fast on burpee pull-ups, but it smacked the shit outta me.

JR Howell (09:26):

What was the worst move?

Taylor Self (09:27):

A hundred percent. The burpee pull-ups. I’ve never been in a set of burpees ever, even seven minutes for time. I think Dubai, the online challenge during Covid, it’s like a 10 minute AMRAP of single arm devil’s press, so that’s like a lot. I think it was like 140 reps, 139 reps or something. I got mm-hmm. <affirmative> never been in a set of burpees where I’m like, I need to stop. And I stopped a couple times and that to me signifies it was insanely brutal. So if you’re on S M T P, take a lookout for that in a couple weeks and enjoy <laugh>. All right, Helen.

JR Howell (10:05):

Yeah, so today we’re just gonna kind of, um, talk about the, the hot topic, which for right now is at least that there are two, um, clues released without the full details or for CrossFit games, workouts really for all the divisions. Um, that everyone’s gonna do a version of Helen and everyone’s gonna do a five k a cross country, five K. We already know that one of the adaptive divisions or doing a five K ski, but like Noelle Henderson who’s competing at the games who I’ll be there to coach, she’s doing a run. Yeah. So like, kind of like rinse and repeat last year. I think that was so well received. Um, and because I think it sends a pretty cool message to the community that it doesn’t matter what level you’re at, we can go into all the implications of these two workouts specifically, but like, hey, it doesn’t have to be fancy. It doesn’t have to be sexy and it’s things that everyone can do.

Taylor Self (10:58):

Yeah. I think the other thing to note just briefly a, a brief history lesson on the five K, it’s the most programmable workout on.com I think. I’m sure a lot of our listeners probably know that, but if you don’t, it’s the most frequently programmed CrossFit main site workout of all time. The five K run. Helen is a benchmark workout. It’s a girl workout and it’s three rounds for time of a 400 meter run, 21 kettlebell swings American, we’re all the way overhead with a 53 pound kettlebell for men, 35 for women, and then 12 pull-ups. So it’s quite the nut buster in terms of it’s just gas pedal from the start. It’s one of my favorite workouts. I think since having S M T P I’ve programmed, I know I programmed Helen as prescribed for the 60 track recently, maybe a month ago. So that’s pretty cool. You know, not to suck me, suck my own wiener, but, um, yeah.

JR Howell (11:54):

And I may be wrong, but I’m pretty sure that Helen or Cindy is the number two Yeah. Most frequently programmed workout ever on that which is

Taylor Self (12:02):

Sick. And I’ve programmed probably another five times or six times between compete and 60 over the past year. The Helen rep scheme or format, the three rounds, 421 12 of just varying different movements. And I’ve seen you do that too. I

JR Howell (12:16):

Did it on Monday and then that came and then it came out on Monday, which was pretty cool. It was like a, it’s a kind of that, that rep scheme is that 2112 rep scheme. And even with the 400 is, yeah, it’s just like, uh, 2115 nines the one that everyone knows, but I think outside of that 21 and 12 is a pretty cool,

Taylor Self (12:32):


JR Howell (12:33):


Taylor Self (12:34):

Pretty cool. I did, we on 60, so I like, maybe three months ago we did Helen or two months and then last week, or maybe it’s this week, can’t remember, it’s this week or last week. I, I programmed their rep scheme and it was a 400 meter run, 21 G S G Situps 12 hang squat cleans at 1 35 95. Um, it’s a little potent nasty stinger, but I am obsessed with that three round for time. And Ellen, the new girl benchmark

JR Howell (12:58):

Burpees. Snatches, right? Yeah.

Taylor Self (12:59):

Isn’t it 20 burpees? 21 dumbbell snatches, 12 dumbbell busters, three

JR Howell (13:04):

Rounds. I think it’s, I think it’s, I think

Taylor Self (13:06):

It’s 20 burpees.

JR Howell (13:07):

That sounds right.

Taylor Self (13:09):

Um, uh, interesting iteration and also Cool. I wonder how outside the box they’re going to get with Helen, do you think they’re going to change the rep scheme at all? Do you think it stays 421 12? Do you think it stays three rounds? I feel like they could go a hundred different ways.

JR Howell (13:25):

So when they released that all the division’s gonna be doing a variation of Helen, there’s a couple things that came to mind. One, just because I’m coaching an adaptive athlete, I thought to myself, okay, how could they do this where they don’t change much, but taking into consideration, um, amputees, taking in consideration, um, uh, people who are paralyzed below the hip, you know, all that kind of stuff. How could they make it as Helen like as possible without just making all the divisions do different workouts?

Taylor Self (13:58):


JR Howell (13:59):

My gut reaction was


Boz is kind of being well known now for his, like, Hey, it’s not enough to just be the strongest mm-hmm. <affirmative>, it’s not enough to just be the fastest. You need to be able to run fast lift heavy. Right. We saw it in the open, we saw it shuttle to overhead. We saw it, um, in the age group, semifinals workout, you know, where they had to do snatches at 2 25 after that. Like triple threes type variant mm-hmm. <affirmative> mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Um, we’re, we’re just seeing that come up over and over again. We saw it at semifinals this year with the run into the max snatch and then the lighter snatch into the run. So the very first time this came out was in 2010, pyramid double Helen into a Mac shoulder to overhead for load. And I saw that they were doing a version of Helen and I to myself. What a cool homage.

Taylor Self (14:53):


JR Howell (14:54):

To just repeat that workout because it already fits BS in that way. Hey, I don’t care what you can lift. I wanna know what you can lift when you’ve done a hundred plus kettle ball swings. I wanna know what you can lift when your heart rate’s really high and shoulder to overhead Max is not something we ever see. No. Like it’s, it’s one of those lifts that’s like, I think that’s the only time it’s ever been programmed in competition for

Taylor Self (15:14):

The cross with. Yeah. Which is crazy. You think they keep the 92nd time domain on that?

JR Howell (15:20):

I would love for them just to do it the way it was written. I think if you, I think if you’re gonna repeat something, you, you gotta repeat it as is. You change one thing, you change everything. But, um, so that’s the first thing that came to my mind. How cool would that be? Mm-hmm. And it would hold up as a games test. Yep. And maybe just with each division, maybe they don’t do the triple right. They don’t do the pyramid scheme. They just kind of take it, they, they decrease the volume, but they, they keep the loading the same. Mm-hmm. The other thing I thought of was it would make a lot of sense to just vary it a little bit and have it be a single alarm kettlebell snatch. Mm-hmm. Whether you leave it at 53 and 35 because Helen is supposed to hurt. Yep. If you win Helen in your class, it’s because usually at this point you were able to run the hardest when you didn’t want to

Taylor Self (16:07):

And go on broken.

JR Howell (16:07):

And, and Boz has talked about that on, on, um, very not random where like he has this affinity for Helen, but only because it’s such classic CrossFit in the way of Yeah. I know. You can go on broken. So can everyone else, I need you to show me how much you’re willing to hurt on those runs mm-hmm. <affirmative> to get it done. So what do you, what what, what was your initial reaction? Like you saw it, what was the first thing that came to your head? This is what I think they’re gonna do

Taylor Self (16:35):

Well, uh, initial reaction was for, and I was just solely thinking in terms of Michelle and the elite division, the individuals, uh, initial reaction was a dual kettlebell Hank Snatch. And I initially was thinking 50 threes for men, 30 fives for women. You mentioned 30 fives for men, 20 sixes for women to keep it unbroken and bar muscle-ups. That was my initial thought. Um, I had another thought of potentially the burpee pull up or some vari variation of that building off of the open. Um, and then I had the thought of, eh, just same workout with a heavy kettlebell. You mentioned a vest. Um,

JR Howell (17:18):

I think a, I think, I think a ruck

Taylor Self (17:20):

Ruck go

JR Howell (17:21):

Ruck that’s doing Helen in a ruck and just letting that be the only thing after we’ve kind of vetted people wearing rucks to do other body weight things and grinder type movements. I don’t think it would take a lot away from the intensity. What, what I think you have to be careful of with the loading, whether it’s body armor or ruck, whether it’s the kettlebell weight. I don’t think he’s gonna do anything to blunt the intensity. I think if he does that, then it’s not Helen anymore. And it almost feels like, and we’ll get to the five K run that’s like, Hey, you guys have all done this or you guys have all done something close to this. All you fans all like a lot of competitors. Um, I just don’t see it being too crazy as far as the modifications

Taylor Self (18:09):

Go. I, I agree. When the five k run was announced, I had the thought of, and I was thinking about how variations and how we were all talking about how, you know, the run still has to be important. And then the five k run got announced and I’m thinking if both these tests are before the cut and they keep Helen very simple and the run is the linchpin, then we have now two of potentially the six tests before cuts where it’s the run, the run is what matters. And I, and I had that thought and I was like, maybe, maybe there’s a

JR Howell (18:42):

Way. So they, so they did, I’m sorry for interrupting you. They did release that the five K is on Saturday and it’s event seven.

Taylor Self (18:48):

Okay. Wow. I didn’t see that. Okay. Um, so then, then that changes things. Um,

JR Howell (18:56):

But I think you mentioning that like for me what implications, well that’s two workouts already. If we’re assuming that they’re the’re running in both of them, that’s, that’s two running workouts. And do

Taylor Self (19:07):

You think they would change the run in Helen?

JR Howell (19:11):

I think if you change the run in Helen, you don’t even call it Helen. Yeah. You don’t make that post. You don’t do anything like that. Yeah. I think if you run farther fine, I think if you run it in shuttle runs fine. I think if you, um, run it weighted fine, but I think if you take the run out it’s not, and they’re very clear on the five K run. If you go to the division’s breakdown, like, hey, lower extremity adaptive is skiing a five K and everyone else, it just says five K, it just says five K run. Hmm. So I, I don’t think there’s a lot of gimmicks when it comes to the straightforwardness of that workout go on a trail and run. Whether that’s loaded, whether it’s not loaded, whether they’re gonna stop and do things in the middle, maybe like there could be some grunt work type stuff.


But I think that like us realizing that Helen and five K run are two of the top three most programmed workouts ever on.com. That’s not a mistake. And that’s like a, hey, we’re gonna stay true to our roots. We’re gonna keep it classic CrossFit. But I think already having two out of 12 to 15 workouts with running that we already know of, that’s big. Like you would think that maybe the last one is some kind of, we would hope speed, agility, sprint type thing. And it would kind of cover all the basis of, of running in different modality, uh, different time domains.

Taylor Self (20:34):

Yeah. I, I also have the thought where you look at 2020 stage one programming and how you have all those girl workouts that are souped up and I would imagine Helen is going to be some variation of that to a degree or something similar to that. And I had the thought also is the likelihood of them switching the implement and it’s not a kettlebell, but instead it’s a barbell, a hang snatch for 21 reps. Um, or Yeah, I, I don’t know. I mean, how, how much, where do they go and change it? I think something that will be cool. I had this thought, um, kind of a throwback to the 2009 CrossFit games, which is another one of my favorite workouts. And it’s three rounds for time of 30 low hang squat snatches and 30 wall balls with 75 55 pound barbell and just a regular ball.


And that workout hurts so badly ’cause you can go unbroken on everything mm-hmm. <affirmative> and you can go fast and unbroken and it’s, oh man, the low hang squat snatchers, taking the barbells below the kneecap is fucking disgusting. And I wondered it would be cool if they did a low hang squat snatch and Helen, but I don’t at that point, how, how different are you getting? Um, I think if you’re testing it as one of the six tests, then putting something a little more, uh, dynamic and some sort of degree of skill involved with a barbell I would like. But of course there’s five other opportunities to do that outside of Helen. We don’t know what they’re gonna do yet. Um, I wouldn’t be super thrilled with just a standard kettlebell swing. That’s what

JR Howell (22:12):

I was gonna ask you. So are you in the camp that the games is the only place to do a kettlebell swing? Or are you in the camp of if they’re gonna do a kettlebell swing, it it should be done earlier in the season. Mm-hmm. You know, like, is it to you a a live judging? Like

Taylor Self (22:32):

I think it’s easier in live judging,

JR Howell (22:34):

Right? But do you think that it’s even like, I’m actually working on something for the show on Sunday for the games prediction show, but let’s just put it this way. Kettlebell swings have come up a crazy amount since the games last year, a crazy amount. And am I reading into it just because I know now that Helen’s a workout maybe, but they’re like, sometimes, you know, things don’t lie. So I’m just wondering if like everyone says, ah, they wouldn’t do swings. They wouldn’t do swings. They wouldn’t do swings. Like No, no, no. The games is the place where you do swings because it’s the place where you can have the best judges possible. Yeah.

Taylor Self (23:08):

No, I don’t think that the games is not where you do swings. I don’t think it’s a bad place to put swings. I just would prefer if it’s gonna be a movement prior to cuts, make it a little more meaningful than a swing. Everyone can do a swing, make it something where it’s like, maybe not everyone can do this with efficiency and speed and intensity. I, I don’t know. I mean, I I, like you said, I want it to be Helen, but fuck the best in the field if you put a 95 pound bar in their hand, or even a 75, it made it a low hang squat snatch like that, that would be maybe that’s, maybe that’s dumb. Maybe it’s like a 95, 65 pound hang power snatch. Or what I think would be the coolest is a double kettlebell snatch or even a single arm kettlebell snatch hang snatch. I like that more as it shows athleticism a little more. Um, I don’t, I’m not sure that I like the idea of saying these tests to cut to 30 or to 20 are all about one thing and nobody has the opportunity to show separation with athleticism or mm-hmm. Movement efficiency or, uh, skill capacity, whatever. Um, I think it should be pretty balanced. So I I I wouldn’t hate a kettlebell swing. I just would think there are other things that I think would be cooler.

JR Howell (24:24):

Do you think that, I’m just thinking of the order that things have happened, right? The first thing we really get this, this year to talk about at the games is the kind of grips, the kind of link that you use. Mm. We know that, you know, Dave went on was like, yeah, it’s actually the picture that it’s actually the middle finger rule. Yep. That’s what we’re gonna go off of. And then Helen gets released. Yep. And you immediately think, okay, well there’s pull-up variation. It’s a very grippy workout. Right. It’s a very grippy workout, just as written for a lot of people, even for 12 pull-ups, especially in like a typical class. Yep. But if they’re gonna do something like a chest bar, if they’re gonna just put a thick pull up bar up there and just say, Hey, we’re not changing the workout, you’re just doing it on this pull up bar that’s fatter.


Do you think that, like to me, there was a reason they made the big deal out of the grip, the grips, there’s a reason for that. I don’t care if it’s, if it’s doesn’t have anything to do with this workout, but they’re gonna be, you’re gonna, they’re gonna be hanging at the games in a capacity at some point where a longer grip is going to put you at an advantage. So I, my mind just goes right to Helen, was this the reason? Is it gonna be just, hey, yeah. Uh, you guys always do a pull up bar on a regular pull up bar, but you never do it on a bar that’s thicker, that’s all we’re gonna change and you’re doing chest a bar and now people aren’t gonna be able to do it on broken. Like, it could just be that simple. Like, is it, it, is there a flow to the, to this announcement where, hey, we’re letting you know now you need to make sure your grips are this length, and oh, by the way, you’re gonna do Helen.

Taylor Self (26:06):

I I think one, what made the grip thing such a big deal is because the pictures were fucking stupid. Okay. You also have to take into account the 11 other standards, however many other standards were in that post. You had the belt, which has been an issue in in the past, the knee wraps, the, you know, whatever, et cetera, et cetera. I wouldn’t be surprised, I think before they go to a fat bar, I could see them introducing kipping pull-ups. Like, you can’t butterfly, you have to do a gymnastic kiip or a kipping chest bar. And I think that would light a lot of people up and catch a lot of people off guard. And that was one of my initial thoughts, well, was how a tipping pull up would be cool. And I would like to see the, I think one, I think there’s a strong likelihood that this is the last test before the cuts.


The nature of Helen, it being, how bad do you want it? How much are you willing to hurt? I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s the test on Friday night, um, before they cut to 30. If it’s kipping pull-ups and kettlebell swings, I’ll love it. I’m fine with kettlebell swing. If it’s, if it’s just like he Helen with a heavier kettlebell, uh, I think still that’s potentially nasty. Or at least a chest a bar pull-up. I just don’t know that just the one change of a heavy kettlebell swing or just adding a ruck is enough. Even I, I don’t like the idea of just 36 regular pull-ups. Um, I, I just, and I also think there’s so many different places they could go with this. It’s so fucking hard to just pin it down, which is to their benefit. Um,

Speaker 3 (27:40):

Do you think it’s appropriate to have Helen in the games? If it, uh, if the first reaction of everyone is, how are we gonna change it to make it appropriate for the games?

Taylor Self (27:48):

No, no. I, I, yes. I still think it’s appropriate.

JR Howell (27:53):

I think if like 20, I think if 2020 would’ve never happened and we didn’t get those, um, benchmark girl workouts that were like, in the same way they did the thruster double under, right? Mm-hmm. <affirmative> in the same way they made that heavier and just did it the exact same way, only with a heavier load. I think if there hadn’t have been things like that happen in the past, everyone would be looking around like, you don’t do Helen at the games. Like you can’t do that. But I think because they’ve already taken girl workouts and they’ve amped them up a little bit to a games level, it it is appropriate. I do wonder though, are they gonna continue to, because we saw Linda with dumbbells and now we’re seeing Helen, we don’t know how it’s kind of changed, but what if this is something that, what if the five K run that we see programmed all the time, if there’s a little twist to it and do it again, and we get that same <laugh>, we get that same, hey, we’re gonna go back to the roots. But in the same way they had to do it with like gym limitations in 2020. Are we doing that now, but in live person? So are we gonna see a press to handstand, Diane, are we gonna see a, um, like, um, uh, one of the new girls come out like Lila, right? Oh hell, that’ll be sick, right? Like with cleaning jerks and muscle ups, like, are, are we gonna kind of see some of these named workouts at the games this year more than just Helen? I think it’d be really cool.

Taylor Self (29:28):

Uh, yeah, I do too. And, and it’s, it’s something they’ve done for a long time. Yeah. I mean, they did it last year with Elizabeth Elevated. They did it with Double Grace. They did it with double dt, heavy dt. Um, there are a lot of twists, so I, I don’t think, yeah, put, you put the field of your top 40 people in the world and you say, Hey, do Grace. No, I don’t think that’s really appropriate. Um, but I think the test to a degree needs to reflect the level of fitness. And so I expect some changes. I don’t expect it to just be regular Helen. Um, and I do think it’s appropriate.

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