Our Quarterfinals Programming // Shut Up & Scribble Ep 23

Will Branstetter (00:02):

What’s up everybody? We’re live on YouTube. YouTube, bam. Shut up and scribble up to 23 with JR from Tennessee and Will and Taylor together, the butt buddies and today we’re going to talk quarterfinals programming. Ladies

Speaker 2 (00:20):

And gentlemen up. This is the behavior,

Speaker 3 (00:27):

So keep the political commentary to yourself or as someone once said,

Will Branstetter (00:31):

Shut up and scribble. Okay, so Quarterfinals Change this year.

JR Howell (00:50):

Talk to me. Wait a minute, wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Go ahead. We need to give some plugs to our sponsors. Oh wait guys, we need sponsors. Anyone, anyone who wants to work with us. Let’s go.

Taylor Self (01:02):

All that was good. I was going to say what fucking sponsors.

JR Howell (01:04):

Let’s do it. We need some people on our footer down there too. Alright, continue will

Will Branstetter (01:10):

Love it. Jr Businessman. Yeah, so quarter files qualified the top 25%, so Taylor and Jr have programmed their own quarterfinals, taking that into account with how that changes programming, thinking about all that. Haven’t seen each other’s workouts yet, so whenever you guys see them, I’m the only one that’s seen both of them and

JR Howell (01:31):

Will Will, which one do you like more you have to say?

Will Branstetter (01:35):

I’ll tell you after.

JR Howell (01:36):

Okay.

Will Branstetter (01:38):

I can’t tell you Taylor couldn’t take that.

Taylor Self (01:40):

Yes, this is the most nervous I’ve been for a show ever to start. I think it’s important to note that this is my group of workouts that in my opinion would be best suited for a 25% quarterfinal qualifying age groups and individuals to semifinals while also being safe and somewhat completable for 25% of the population. Like everyone could at least start the workouts. They’re not going to hurt people and I think more important, not more important than anything most important is that these take the right people to semifinals both individuals and masters. Secondary to that, I think it’s very important that the programming garners excitement. If you’re looking for registrations, you have to put out a set of workouts that people want to register to do. If you just put out these dumb ass fucking workouts, nobody’s going to want to do them. I think in that same light, me and JR were talking a little bit about, I wonder how they program the season.

(02:53):

Do they start with the games and work back? Do they start with the open and work forward and I think with this new format specifically like taking 25% to quarterfinals and then using those workouts to get the right 60 people or the right 40, fuck the right 40 people to semifinals for individuals and the age groups. To me it would make, I think it would be most logical, Brandon, I don’t have the years of experience that Dave and Baz have, but I think it would be most logical to start with quarterfinals. That’s probably your biggest cut point. You take the largest group of people and you cut it to the smallest at the most important choking point. Start there. So you program quarterfinals, what are the five or six perfect workouts that are going to take the most important people from quarterfinals to semifinals for both individuals, age groups while still being able to be completed by 25% of people who register.

(03:48):

Then next I think open. Then next I think semifinals. Then next I think games. Games and semifinals. You have a ton of leeway, a lot of creativity. You have a massive bigger canvas to be creative and to do cooler things and to do different things and a smaller field of people. I think the open is next important because again, you’re trying to drive registration, you’re trying to garner excitement within the community, so it’s really important that the workouts that you put out are fun and look cool and people are like, damn, can’t wait to do this and sign up and see where I stack up. Whereas on the other hand, if you just neglect the open and you put these dumb ass workouts in, chances are registration’s not going to be as good as it has in years past.

JR Howell (04:37):

Yeah, I mean I’ll echo a lot of the sentiments you just said. I think when Boaz went on with Chase and talked about, actually I think he said this on spin show, that the primary goal is to get the right people to semifinals based on the quarterfinals programming. Shortly after that though is to drive participation, to create workouts that will challenge the community who wants to continue their competitive season, be it for trying to make semifinals or just to see how far they can get, what placing they can finish. Even if they want to talk trash with their friends, he wants ’em to do workouts that people will see and not decide not to sign up for. So like you said, fun. Yeah, I mean what does fun mean? You have your definition. I have mine, but at the end of the day they need to be accessible.

(05:24):

Now when I sit down to write these quarterfinal workouts, it’s really easy to make a progression style workout for all five B. Could do that, you could do that, but it would get kind of stale to have a workout. To have a workout that was always going to be wall walks. Then strict handstand pushups, then handstand walks or was going to be light barbell, moderate barbell, heavy barbell. You could do that for all workouts and have them pay to play style where you have to prove you’re fit enough to keep going. That’s great, but at the end of the day, does that end up filtering for a specific kind of semi-finals athlete? Probably so I think it is appropriate for two to three of those and I think by necessity, if you want the community to at least be able to do some work on every workout, you need to have that style. But it is hard not to get too caught up into that

Taylor Self (06:23):

Carried away with

JR Howell (06:23):

That. I need to make sure everyone can do it because what’s the primary goal if we lose the

Taylor Self (06:30):

Primary goal is taking the right people to semifinals. Sure. But I think you can do that while still allowing all top 25% to at least begin each workout, which we both took into consideration and we’re very, very focused on making that work. The other thing I think is important to note, Jeremy commented, I where his comment there it’s was it tough programming these while not knowing the open workouts? It’s interesting. Me and JR took completely two different paths here. JR programmed these with the open in mind and whatever potential movements or progressions or implements he was assuming were used in the open. I programmed without the open to mind, I programmed the way I thought the season should be programmed quarterfinals first, then work back to the open. Then you program semifinals in the games JR went assuming, hey, we already know that there’s has been programmed, this is going to be off of those. We don’t know how they do it. We don’t know which way. I don’t know if my way is correct or his way. That’s just kind of how we both intuitively did it. Also, one last thing. This shows courtesy of key for Lamey, AMI Lammy, happy Thanksgiving keeper keeper, Mami. This is his idea. Great show idea. He’s a great dude too. Good

JR Howell (07:56):

Dude. Yeah. I’ll say too to Jeremy’s question, most people are going to be able to predict or come up with their own quarterfinal style workouts after the open has transpired next year. At that point we’ve seen, okay, there’s thrusters in the workout, probably not going to do thrusters in quarters. Hey, there was a burpee heavy workout here. Okay, probably not going to do a burpee heavy workout here. Oh, they didn’t use dumbbells at all and the open, okay, we can probably assume that dumbbells or kettlebells are going to be used in quarters. So yeah, it’s interesting that Taylor was just like, I’m not even thinking about what may have already been programmed and I started my programming process saying to myself, okay, I’m going to assume that they did toast to bar in the open. I’m going to assume that they did thrusters and I’m going to assume that they did burpees. And from there I just created my own. Because as a programmer you want to put everything in there because you’re like, well wait, how can you do toast the bar and not gds? How can you do GHD and not the bar? How can you do thrusters and not overhead squat? How can you clean and not snatch? Those are the things that at least go through my head when you’re trying to pick movements. You love ’em all, but you can’t program all of them.

(09:06):

So I kind of approached it that way like, hey, I’m just going to assume that these movements are off limits for me because some of them are going to have been used in the open prior to.

Taylor Self (09:16):

Does having them used in the open though make them off limits for quarterfinals? Because we’ve seen in years past where they’ve used two movements both in open and quarterfinals. I’m just defending myself because I definitely programmed every movement that I wanted in there.

JR Howell (09:31):

Well, maybe that you wanted, I maybe that you wanted, but you didn’t do five quartets, you didn’t do five workouts with four or five or six different movements just so that you could get every single movement in.

Taylor Self (09:44):

Correct. Correct. Yeah. Two of the workouts, which we’ll see when we get there, are testing two different general areas of skill are both very progressive and test a pretty good range of things. The others are a lot more simplicity. Alright,

JR Howell (10:00):

Cool. Alright. Yeah, so lastly, before we actually start talking about the workouts, before we see ’em, what we want to do is we want to show a workout, read through it, and then what Taylor and I both want to do and we’ll try to help keep each other on track, is we want to maybe give some inspiration why we chose this combination of movements. Then we want to give an idea of the stimulus or the targeted muscle groups that we want to hit. Then we’ll probably get into, hey, if you’re a quarterfinals level athlete, you’re not trying to make semis. How do you approach this workout if there’s a time cap, how do you game that? If there’s a, do you know what I

Taylor Self (10:36):

Think we should

JR Howell (10:36):

Do? How do you do that? And then we’ll get into the, hey the semifinal athletes, you need to be sub eight on this. Hey, you need to be able to do this unbroken or whatever. We’ll get into that.

Taylor Self (10:48):

This is what we should do. I’m making this executive decision now. I’m going to evaluate your workouts off of choking point, how fast they need to be stimulus and then you’re going to do mine. That way we can, I mean I’m already just insanely excited and if I get something wrong, correct me for sure and vice versa. But I think that would be pretty cool. We both are opening ourselves up to really evaluating something for the first time live.

JR Howell (11:15):

Okay. Alright. So the only thing I’ll say is if it’s my workout, I take the lead and say what I need to say on it and then you give that feedback and then it’s your turn. I’ll try to let you go and not say, no, I don’t think it’s going to be shoulders at all. I think it’s going to be blah blah blah.

Taylor Self (11:31):

Yeah, but we’re not that dumb wherever that’s going to happen, but right, go. Okay, let’s do it. Ready? Jerry, are you going to read your own workouts out?

JR Howell (11:38):

Yeah, I’ll read. This

Taylor Self (11:39):

Is crazy, dude. I’m so excited. This is better than an open announcement dude.

JR Howell (11:44):

Alright, workout one

(11:46):

Four time, 120 wall balls 20 and 14 both to a 10 foot target, 60 dumbbell bench press, seventies and fifties 30 cleans to a 5, 1 45. This is a choose your own adventure style workout. So while I feel very strongly that this style of workout should never be done in an in-person competition where you need to be able to watch a race, no one’s racing unless you’re racing with a couple of your friends in quarterfinals, you’re just doing them at your own gym for 99% of athletes, maybe not even with someone. So I always really, really liked that open workout with the rowing wall balls and muscle ups where people got to kind of choose their own adventure. What I think this format really does is it allows for the second goal of quarterfinals more than anything else. Hey, I know I can’t clean 2 0 5. Okay, cool.

(12:38):

Well how am I going to manage these other 180 reps? I might only be able to get 30 the bench press. So what am I going to do? I’m going to start out and I’m just going to bench press for five minutes and get as many as I can get. When I get tired, I’m going to go over and do a set of 30 wall balls and I’m going to come back to bench and then at the end I’m going to try to PR my clean. Okay, cool. A competitor sees this workout and they say, you know what, I’m going to go 10 rounds, 12, 6 3 and I’m going to try to do it faster than e om and I’m going to try to go sub 10. Okay, cool. And then the next person comes in and they’re like, I can hit 2 0 5, but maybe only a few of ’em. I know I can get the other 180 reps, so while I’m fresh I’m going to try to hit a few cleans. Then I’m going to do some wall balls, come back to the cleans, then I’m going to start whatever strategy. The opportunities are endless, the movements are difficult, but even up through 54 years old, I’m confident they can hit that on a dumbbell

Taylor Self (13:32):

Press. Anyone

JR Howell (13:33):

Can start it. They can clean it one time or 30 times and then on the wall balls. I do think you need to have a volume squatting test even if you only have five workouts. So I did Holman earlier this week and an integral style. Lemme

Taylor Self (13:49):

Talk

JR Howell (13:49):

Bro. It was kind of my inspiration for this workout. I

Taylor Self (13:53):

Knew it

JR Howell (13:54):

And it’s just, yeah, it was just kind of fresh on my mind. I think a 20 minute cap is really, really generous to start off. So yeah, I mean I just think a choose your own adventure would be really cool in quarterfinals and from a gamesmanship standpoint, think about how stressful Taylor you would be if you were doing this workout, but you were like, what if someone else has a faster strategy and I don’t know about it.

Taylor Self (14:15):

The gamesmanship is crazy.

JR Howell (14:16):

Alright, so go ahead.

Taylor Self (14:17):

Sorry. No, when I was reading this I was like, wow, this reminds me of Holman. It’s just www and instead of a handstand pushup you have a bench press, an upper body press and I was like, man, when I just did this the other week, my upper body was getting fried Holman, not this workout. And I think beyond obviously you being strong and having general metabolic conditioning, I think it limits upper body pressing for sure with the wall ball, bench press combination, but disgusting combination. Your thoughts.

JR Howell (14:51):

Yeah, you’re spot on. So when I wrote this workout and I had limiters, let’s just call ’em limiters, right? What’s going to limit most people? So I have strict upper body pressing as being the limiter. There’s still going to be some interference receiving the clean in the front rack on the front belts. There’s still going to be some interference even though they’re kind of give me reps. For a lot of people it’s still a lot of flexing the peck receiving the wall ball, you’re still kind of pressing, I mean it’s more of a throw, but in general, this is kind of the hierarchy, right? For the fastest people, it’s probably going to come down to the bench press depending on how you strategize it. Do you knock out a huge set in the beginning? Do you do it in rounds, whatever. Then after that it becomes a strength limiting workout. So maybe for the other 24% it’s either, oh, that bench is going to be heavy, but I can hammer the cleans. Okay, cool. Then strategize it that way. And for other people it might be the clean and not the bench press. That’s my first workout.

Taylor Self (15:49):

That’s a great workout. What do you think? Fastest time on it. You think sub 10 is possible on that? That seems aggressive to me.

JR Howell (15:56):

Yeah, when I wrote it, I was thinking to myself, the upper end times would be 10 ish or maybe sub. This is important caveat. This workout, if I wrote this for quarterfinals, would require zero floor plan. So if you want to put your barbell right next to the wall and you want to put the bench right beside your barbell, go for it. Make the transitions as tight as you want them to be.

Taylor Self (16:23):

That’s disgusting. I think 12 six threes. But man, I don’t know. The thing is, the thing about the time is the transition from getting the dumbbells up and setting them down is so different than a regular bench press transition that I would, I don’t know if it’s worth 10 sets of six, but man, the bench could just, if you get to a point to where you have to break in a set that you plan on doing unbroken, you’re fucked.

JR Howell (16:49):

Yeah, so this workout too, they did dumbbell Linda in semi’s last year. We’ve seen bench press come up once in the other total two years ago for quarterfinals last year it came up in the quarterfinals for age groups with rope climbs and shuttle runs. I think it’s very feasible that whether it’s dumbbell or barbell that we see bench press in a metabolic setting this year for quarterfinals. So alright, that’s good for that one. I know it’s going to take a while.

Taylor Self (17:22):

All right, workout two.

JR Howell (17:24):

Alright, workout two. So this is the first time we get some sort of progression. So we have 150 foot kettlebell lunge, 50 GHD four regular rope climbs, 150 foot kettlebell lunge, 50 GH HD for legless. Now I think of most people with a 15 minute cap, they’re going to be able to play all the way into the legless. I don’t know of people where the lunge is going to be a deal breaker. Do I think a lot of people are going to be doing 25 feet and then resting for a while and then picking it back up? Absolutely, but I think the limiter here, and this is what I’m going for, I had an upper body strict press limiter on workout one. I want to upper body strict pull limiter on workout two

Taylor Self (18:10):

For the best. For the best.

JR Howell (18:11):

Yeah, for the best. And when I look at this kind of a workout, I’m looking at that typical, let’s say probably seven to nine minute range. Now there are going to be people on the back half of this that have to break the GHS possibly whether they do it strategically because they want to jump up and try to hit legless. A lot of people feel they’re midline a lot when they do legless rope climb. Some people don’t and all they feel is upper body fatigue. That’s going to be specific on the person, but there’s still a lot of hip flexor and midline in here. For the majority of the population, it’s probably not going to be upper body pulling because they’re not going to be able to go that fast. But for people like you, for other competitors, they’re going to try to do everything in a broken tailor on that second 150 foot. How hard is that going to be? Not to put the kettlebells down?

Taylor Self (19:02):

I think more than anything depends on the standard and that’s assuming whatever you want.

JR Howell (19:09):

I would let them do it kind of like they did the 30, 20 10 workout at the games in 2020. I would just let them them hold it however they

Taylor Self (19:15):

Want. I think what’s harder than keeping those six trips unbroken is the 50 GH HDS unbroken

JR Howell (19:21):

On round two? Yeah, I think that’s sneaky for sure.

Taylor Self (19:24):

That would be my, I guess I would go into the workout with an assumption that I can keep those 150 foot of lunges unbroken. I would just probably be like, you know what I might do? I might do 25 feet stepping through 25 feet meeting my feet in the middle and just alternate back and forth for the six sets and then the 50 ghs. I think for someone like me, who knows, they can move legless quickly at the end of a workout. I think the workout is that middle six 50 for sure, but more so the 52nd set of 50 after the 150 lunges disgusting.

JR Howell (19:57):

So there’s going to be a lot of questions about why the decision to have the same number of reps for the ladies. I think this workout lends to that kind of stimulus where it’s not going to matter if they have to do four and it’s a little bit slower or they have to do two, it’s still going to, I need them to do four because the volume is not high. There’s only eight rope climbs. I need to see them do a dent set to see that separation. Taylor, you and I both know there are going to be people that can do those four in a minute. There’re going to be people that do those four in a minute and a half. There’re going to be people that takes two minutes to do those four. The legless. The legless, right. So’s going to be a lot of separation there and a lot of people are just going to be looking at the legless in this workout, but a lot of times you don’t think about the other stuff that’s in there. You’re seeing the second set of 50 and I agree, but there’re going to be a lot of people that see the workout and just think, oh, so it’s just a legless rope climb workout. I don’t think so. I think there’s going to be more opportunity for separation than you think on the other movements cycle speed

Taylor Self (20:58):

And lung ghp. Correct? Correct.

Will Branstetter (21:01):

There’s a question about overhead lunges on the second set. Why’d you choose front rack twice?

Taylor Self (21:05):

Oh, that would be just too hard I think.

JR Howell (21:07):

Did Kyle Ruth ask that question?

Will Branstetter (21:09):

No, Jeremy eat world.

JR Howell (21:11):

Yeah, so that was actually something that I did think about. I think Jeremy will see after the other workouts that there didn’t need to be anything else overhead.

Taylor Self (21:22):

Yeah. Yeah.

JR Howell (21:23):

That was the decision strictly on the amount of overhead pressing movements that I’ve already done.

Will Branstetter (21:30):

Yeah, it seems like it would just dominate the workout too if it was overhead.

JR Howell (21:35):

Jeremy, I think if you make that overhead, it needs to be like half, it needs to be like three trips.

Taylor Self (21:41):

What do you think? That’s six

JR Howell (21:42):

Trips. Six trips is a lot.

Taylor Self (21:44):

11 minutes, fastest time.

JR Howell (21:47):

No, I think sub 10 on that

Taylor Self (21:49):

Really?

JR Howell (21:50):

Yep. Yep.

Will Branstetter (21:54):

Work out three.

JR Howell (21:56):

Work out three. Taylor look familiar.

Taylor Self (22:02):

Yeah, you sent me this.

JR Howell (22:03):

Okay. All right, so there hasn’t, Baz has done a death by style workout before an online competition. He did it with wall balls. I think there’s a certain way that you do a death by style workout in a quarterfinal setting where you’re not just punishing people for being so much fitter that they’re doing a bunch of extra thrusters or a bunch of extra deadlifts or whatever. So the workout is against the three minute clock until failure. 20 box jump overs, step down 24 inch for everyone, 20 and 15 calories on the row. Every interval you increase by five calories, so you’ll go 20 and 20 rest at the three minute mark, 20 and 25, rest 20 and 30, rest 20 and 35, rest 20 and 40, rest 20. This is going to allow for not only a leg stamina test because for a lot of people it’s just going to be like, dude, my legs blow up. For some people it’s going to just be a, I couldn’t breathe test either way. Either way. I think it’s going to be an 18 plus minute time domain for the best people and there’ll be some people that go 21 minutes plus.

Taylor Self (23:11):

How far did you get?

JR Howell (23:13):

I haven’t done it yet.

Taylor Self (23:15):

Oh wow, okay.

Will Branstetter (23:18):

I think

JR Howell (23:18):

That’d be, yeah, this is

Will Branstetter (23:19):

Three minutes

JR Howell (23:20):

So we cut. Yeah, and I mean again, the majority of the population can get through two intervals. I think no matter what the fitness level is, I think two intervals is very doable. It’s going to come down to capacity on the rower. It’s a weird kind of a workout where the longer you go, the harder you have to be willing to row. You cannot decrease your row pace. You have to be able to increase it as you go.

Taylor Self (23:43):

We both have a death buy.

JR Howell (23:46):

Oh, that’s crazy. What I did want to make sure

Taylor Self (23:49):

They’re so different though.

JR Howell (23:50):

What I did want to make sure that I had was an ascending rep scheme. I think a lot of times we program rounds for time of the same reps or we program descending, descending, descending. But I think having this is a really cool way to do a death by and you’re doing more calories on the row or fine, that’s what you’re doing and that’s not hard to recover from.

Taylor Self (24:12):

Now what do you think about this? I feel like in a workout like this, the same 40 guys that are going to qualify for semifinals, at least in the quarterfinal setting, I feel less strongly about punishing them with a death buy or something similar format because I’m working off the assumption that those 40 guys who you’re worried about are all generally going to be in the same range or at least enough of the same range to where that extra volume’s not going to typically matter. That’s how I feel about one of my workouts because different than this, and there are movements that could definitely, if it’s like, oh, if someone tried to game it and they didn’t get as much work done as someone else, it would definitely take less of a toll. But if they gamed it, they have no chance of qualifying for semifinals.

JR Howell (24:55):

The problem, the problem with this style of workout and gaming it at all is there’s going to be so many small bottlenecks after you get past 15 minutes that just getting one more calorie on the round of 45 or getting one more calorie on the round of 40, it’s going to be hundreds of spots within those small numbers as you go, you’re going to have huge clumps and the clumps are going to be smaller, but as the clumps get smaller, those are just all the good people together clumped up. So

Taylor Self (25:24):

It’s crazy. We both have a death buy and they’re so different. We both have an ascending rep scheme in a three minute window that is so different.

JR Howell (25:35):

Oh wow. That’s crazy. That’s nuts. So one more thing I want to say about this is a whole nother show. I actually talked to Pat Vellner about this and he was like, you could do a whole show on this. It’s an interesting discussion. Me and Taylor have talked about it at this point of the game, there are movements that we’ve always put in this gymnastics mono structural weightlifting bucket that I think need to be moved. A box jump over in this setting is for the best, should be another mono structural

Taylor Self (26:07):

Mono structural

JR Howell (26:08):

Movement. I do not think of that as gymnastics at all. So this is to me an workout and that’s the perfect way to me, in a five workout competition that you can test really raw base capacity. There’re going to be people that say favors the big guy because they’re going to be able to hammer the row and they’re taller. So it’s going to make the box easier maybe. I think you’ll see by the end of the competition that there are going to be some things that balance out with the smaller lighter athlete, but I still think that having an when I had a www on workout one really kind of helps to balance things out.

Taylor Self (26:48):

Gosh, we have some crazy similarities. This is sick.

Will Branstetter (26:51):

Why did you choose to specify the step down? Ryan Ney? Yes,

JR Howell (26:55):

I really care about people’s Achilles tendons, whether or not they’re competing at a high level or not. And I think in a way it makes it harder. I really, and

Taylor Self (27:03):

It’s top 25%.

JR Howell (27:05):

I really liked that stimulus, especially in the hundreds chipper at crucible, watching people use the games box and having to step down versus bounding. I think it took away from people’s ability to separate because of that.

Taylor Self (27:18):

Fuck no dude.

JR Howell (27:21):

No, no way. I don’t think that deep. No, but I am going to do it.

Taylor Self (27:26):

Okay, next.

JR Howell (27:28):

Alright, so this is my heavy test, right? 2115. This

Taylor Self (27:32):

Is crazy, dude.

JR Howell (27:33):

21 15 9 snatches, 1 35, 180 5, 2 25, 2 55 and then 95, 1 35, 1 65, 1 75. So first I want to talk about snatching is

Taylor Self (27:46):

Heavy for both of us. We both did snatches, the heavy tests

JR Howell (27:49):

First. Yeah, so I think a lot of times at semifinals they test the heavy weightlifting and what I mean by that is not a power lifting movement, but I think it would be good too to circle back around to where when we get to semifinals, we know they can all Olympic lift. Now what the 90 reps do on the gymnastics, a couple things. They allow some of the people in the 24% to play right? A lot of the people are going to be able to get through the 21 and the 42 and then maybe that round of 180 5. 1 35 is a PR snatch, okay? You still got to participate. There’s a tie break after each round of gymnastics. You can just treat that like Fran and just sprint the snatches and the pull-ups as fast as you can wait around and rest for a little bit.

(28:32):

See if you can hit that second snatch the chest of bar. The bar muscle ups also accumulate a lot of pulling so that when you get to the 2 55, 1 75, much like in 17.3 chest of bar snatch ladder, that bar just starts to feel heavier and heavier because you’re doing so much pulling, you’re doing so much hanging. I think that the loading is still appropriate without being too inaccessible. If that snatch was at 2 75 at the end, you could just look at the workout and say the whole workout doesn’t matter at all. It just matters who can hit the 2 75 without missing. And I didn’t want that feel of just all these other reps don’t matter. I think having it progress this way, you’re going to see some guys take chances. You’re going to see some guys push the pace because they know there are going to be people doing this workout. They get to the 2 55 and take a 10 to 15 second break between reps and I can’t afford to just play it safe because you could redo this one, but this is one of the ones I don’t think you want to redo. I think you want to do it and execute and move on from it.

Taylor Self (29:40):

That I think creates a ton of upper body soreness in general. Maybe even some midline posterior soreness. But that’s not a redo workout to me.

JR Howell (29:51):

So for those of you kind of following along, this is kind of how we think about things as we go and it’s definitely how I thought about it. The first workout had.

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