Official CrossFit Games Update Show – Why Tia LOST the Rogue Invitational

Jedidiah Snelson (00:00):

By teams Ando. Yeah. It’s so many stores and they don’t, I mean, they’ve paid thousands, hundreds of thousands of dollars for lawyers and they don’t get shit

Taylor Self (00:12):

Wait payouts on spin show. What competition? The games?

Jedidiah Snelson (00:15):


John Young (00:18):

If Noble can’t pay them,

Jedidiah Snelson (00:22):

There’s nothing they can do about it.

John Young (00:24):

You don’t think CrossFit would pay out of their own money though?

Jedidiah Snelson (00:27):

No. No. They’d make them the scapegoats. If it really came down to that, I think they’d be like, yeah, we just didn’t. That’s what motocross teams have done. I’ve seen it over and over again. I can tell you story upon story. That’s

John Young (00:41):

How the sport fails.

Jedidiah Snelson (00:42):


John Young (00:43):

Or goes into oblivion.

Sevan Matossian (00:46):

Hey, the show started 47 seconds ago. Jeniah, when you were on here with me, did you notice that my audio was really fucked up?

Taylor Self (00:52):

Yeah, it sounds horrible.

Jedidiah Snelson (00:53):

Yeah, it’s like’s like Teeny. Is someone

Sevan Matossian (00:55):

Going to tell me that? When was someone going to tell me that?

John Young (00:58):

You’re the new John Young

Sevan Matossian (01:00):

Son of a bitches.

Jedidiah Snelson (01:01):

Yeah. You sound like you’re in a tin can.

Sevan Matossian (01:03):

Oh, thank you. Now that the show started, I should have fixed that before the show started. Hello everyone. None of my shit’s working. I got on here and I’m a jetted eye. Your mic sounds great. Oh, there we go. There’s something.

Taylor Self (01:14):

No, not fast. No,

Sevan Matossian (01:15):

I go, JDI, your mic sounds great. He goes, oh, what’s going on here?

Taylor Self (01:21):

Maybe if you didn’t tell me I was lucky, I would’ve helped you out, bro.

Sevan Matossian (01:24):

It’s fucking crazy.

Jedidiah Snelson (01:26):

I’ll be honest. I wasn’t paying attention.

Sevan Matossian (01:28):

This is fucking crazy. Why? Why, why, why? Hello. Testing. Oh, goodness. Look at this. Amateur hour.

John Young (01:38):

Avon. If you need some headphones, I can mail you some if you need some good ones.

Sevan Matossian (01:43):

Okay. Welcome to the CrossFit Games.

Jedidiah Snelson (01:45):

That’s better.

Sevan Matossian (01:46):

Official update Show Taylor Self in the upper right hand corner, jetted is Nelson Games athlete in the lower right hand corner, JY barbell will make strong. This is not the amateur hour. How dare you. Taylor Self is from self-made training program. He’s the guy who’s a bit more scruffy than normal because he’s working hard and not getting a lot of sleep like a games athlete Wannabe should be because he’s preparing for the

Taylor Self (02:14):

Charlotte Classic a competition. We have not this weekend, but next weekend at our gym.

Sevan Matossian (02:20):

Let me know if you guys have any audio issues. I noticed in the comments someone was saying that our audios are all fucking out of whack, and I apologize if that is the case. We’ll do our best. I’m going to try to move through this show fast. I say this in a lot of shows and unfortunately what sucks is I don’t have Susa or Caleb and I didn’t know. Here we go anyway

Jedidiah Snelson (02:45):


Sevan Matossian (02:48):


Taylor Self (02:52):

Oh, we got so much dumb shit to talk about.

Sevan Matossian (02:54):

Oh, I know. It’s going to be fun. I’m going to start with something kind of gnarly. What are we talking about? I don’t hear you so good. I don’t hear you so good. John,

Taylor Self (03:07):

Is there a schedule?

Sevan Matossian (03:08):

Oh, don’t worry, buddy. There is a schedule. There’s always a schedule.

Taylor Self (03:12):

That’s the first thing I asked him. When we’re going to talk about qui, we’re going to talk about,

Sevan Matossian (03:17):

No, no, no. We’re not going to talk about qui. I want to show you guys this and I want to tell you the importance of media. Justin Maderis was on the, oh, fuck. Talk about Listen. Listen. Talking about likes per minute. No, I don’t care about the likes thing. I don’t care about the likes thing. Justin Maderis was on the Lone Ranger podcast and I have not listened to the podcast, but there’s this clip and I want to play the clip for you and outside of the likes, I’m not worried about the likes. The eight out of 43 likes someone chose this clip to promote this podcast. I want you I to listen to this. This is the entire clip. This is to promote the fittest man on the planet who’s a currently active CrossFit games athlete, and he did a podcast and he’s one two. He’s one two. He’s number one ranked guy probably in the world right now, in my opinion. Battlers, currently the fittest. He can be second. He can be second. Okay, here we go.

Speaker 5 (04:18):

But I think just the overarching thing is just getting back to where I am and just having fun with training and kind of doing and kind of blocking out expectations and all that kind of things. I love my team. I love what I do, and I love being able to step out on the competition floor, and I think one of the thing that’s so hard about competing is even it’s awesome. Pressure’s a privilege for sure, but I wish I could just walk out into Guap Pza to hit individual knowing that I’m not at Peak Fitness, but then everyone judges you that like, oh, he didn’t even win, and all those things because that’s ultimately where it matters. Yeah, doing team.

Speaker 6 (05:01):

Yeah. Last couple years, Willie’s team has done some interesting outfits where it was, they brought out baguettes to the floor. They were all the French team. They wore those black and white stripe things, so I don’t know, is there any preliminary talks about what you guys might do or what you might wear?

Speaker 5 (05:18):

Oh, I’m sure we’ll get up to something for sure.

Sevan Matossian (05:20):

Okay. It doesn’t get any better. Does anyone know what this clip is about or why you would show this? Please tell me. Because immediately thought, oh, someone hates Justin. I seriously thought, do they hate, I would show this. If one of you put up a clip like this, like the email on my Instagram account, I would call you and be like, what are you doing, dude?

Taylor Self (05:39):

Yeah. We don’t know what he’s talking about there

Sevan Matossian (05:42):

At all. At all.

Taylor Self (05:43):

Other than he says 16 times. I know you’re want to say don’t consider that, but

Sevan Matossian (05:49):

It’s impossible. But even that, you’re right. I mean that’s of the, well, that’s the problem. Since we don’t know what he’s talking about, we can’t even, all we can do is focus on the legs. Who runs Instagram account and what could have been the Dragon Slayer, please. You guys, this is what’s the egregious,

John Young (06:14):

At least under the caption, they should say Justin Madero on individual water competing in, they don’t even say that. They just say, interview with

Taylor Self (06:22):

Justin. Is that what it’s on?

Sevan Matossian (06:24):

No, after? I dunno if that’s what it seems like after the parade, that’s an afterthought that he’s going teams, but they’re not bringing baguettes. I mean, it is fucking bizarro world that someone posted this.

Taylor Self (06:40):

I could post

Sevan Matossian (06:41):

People like this.

Taylor Self (06:42):

Yeah, not as many as he said, though. I could post a video of me farting out of my naked butthole and it would get more likes in this video.

Sevan Matossian (06:50):

This is terrible. You guys don’t do the Stop doing that.

John Young (06:54):

That’s on YouTube, Taylor, not Instagram.

Taylor Self (06:56):

Dude, I would get money from YouTube if I did

John Young (06:58):

That. It won’t get banned on Instagram

Sevan Matossian (07:00):


John Young (07:00):

YouTube. It won’t get banned on YouTube.

Sevan Matossian (07:04):

Hey, they have a video with a guy. Here we go, Caleb, I’m sending it to you right now. They have a guy who shaves his butthole and they show it. I think Taylor could fart

Taylor Self (07:13):

And do it. Yeah, the body, NA dude,

John Young (07:16):

You could get away with it on YouTube.

Sevan Matossian (07:19):

That up everybody, so there’s going to be a lot of media talk in this show, but that is, does anyone disagree with me that that is an absolute train wreck and that’s not good for Justin MAD’s brand?

Taylor Self (07:28):

No, it’s horrible.

Sevan Matossian (07:29):

Or his persona or you’re liking him If you don’t like the word branded, no,

Jedidiah Snelson (07:32):


Sevan Matossian (07:33):

Okay, go ahead, Jenna.

Jedidiah Snelson (07:34):

Here’s the thing. I like Justin. I’ve personal conversations with him and he’s very nice. He’s very down to earth. He’s very humble. He doesn’t say a lot. Even when you have a private conversation with him, he’s not a deep person, and so there just may not have been a lot to pick from, honestly.

Sevan Matossian (07:55):

Then don’t put anything, he doesn’t go deep then don’t put anything. Don’t put anything or how about just cut it to, are you going to Waap Palooza this year? I am. What are you guys wearing? We’re not sure yet. I’ll

Taylor Self (08:06):

Get up to something. That was cool. Just cut that clip that we’ll get up to something for sure. In

Sevan Matossian (08:11):

The middle of the night. If your dog poops or pees on the carpet, who picks it up? You or Ellie? Yeah.

Jedidiah Snelson (08:14):

They would’ve been better just using those last 15 seconds where they talked about Waap Palooza and the outfits. The first part didn’t matter.

Sevan Matossian (08:21):

Wow. This is not a dig at the champ at all. No. 2024 CrossFit games champion, but dude, what are you doing? What are you drinking?

Speaker 7 (08:36):


John Young (08:37):


Sevan Matossian (08:38):

La whatever question. Oh, yeah. Did you

Speaker 7 (08:42):

Want to send a link to Bill as well?

Sevan Matossian (08:45):

Oh, shit. Where is Bill? I’ll

Speaker 7 (08:46):

Send him a link.

Taylor Self (08:47):

Hey, what you got in that cheek Boy?

Sevan Matossian (08:51):

No. Oh, I don’t think Bill’s on the show. Oh, he can be on the show. Shit. He’s saying, is there a link? Fuck, sorry. I think it was, sorry. No wonder Bill asked me if he was on the show today, but I didn’t think he I didn’t know. I didn’t even know. I didn’t even know. Yeah. Have Bill. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Send it to him. Yeah, Caleb, sorry, what a, okay. We’ve been waiting for Bill the whole time. Let’s start the show over. I watched another Lone Ranger podcast where they waited for Chase for 30 minutes and when he came on, they started the show over again. Fucking A. That’s

Taylor Self (09:19):


Jedidiah Snelson (09:20):

Okay. I thought that was Tia.

Sevan Matossian (09:25):

No, no. They did one where they waited for Chase.

Jedidiah Snelson (09:27):

They waited for TIA for like 30 minutes too once, so

Sevan Matossian (09:30):

They did just don’t

Taylor Self (09:31):

Even go live. You idiots. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (09:35):

It only took me 47 seconds to get my podcaster on and 10 minutes to get all the hosts.

Jedidiah Snelson (09:39):

Oh, actually, I think that was Kettlebells and cocktails.

Sevan Matossian (09:42):

I think you’re right. What do you guys think about making your open score? Also, one of the event scores in both the quarters and semis. Your performance in the open then affects your season and games chances.

Taylor Self (09:51):

Taylor. Ooh, I kind of like that. That’s a cool idea.

Jedidiah Snelson (09:55):

Yeah, that is, and you would

Taylor Self (09:56):

Have to announce it. You would’ve to say, this event is going to be one of eight scores at semifinals. I don’t know. Look,

Jedidiah Snelson (10:05):

At least, I’m

Taylor Self (10:06):

Sorry. That’s an idea. I would entertain. I’ll

Jedidiah Snelson (10:09):

Say that quarters would be cool if there was some carryover.

John Young (10:12):

Would your quarter, so your open score would be one of the quarters events and your quarter score would be one of the same

Taylor Self (10:18):

Events. I like that.

Jedidiah Snelson (10:19):

Yeah, that would be

John Young (10:20):

Cool. I don’t mind that at all.

Jedidiah Snelson (10:22):

That makes it more important. That brings more importance to the open.

Taylor Self (10:26):

Stuart, I want to ask a bill a question so badly, but I can’t,

Sevan Matossian (10:29):

Is it about that affiliate newsletter? Is it about the email? Yes, dude. Okay. Hold it till the end. Let me get through some of my notes there. I worked so hard to set the show up and I’m already sweating balls because I fucked it up. Okay. The Lone Ranger Podcast also brought up the de koon situation. Now, here’s the thing. Piggybacking off what Tiah said about being deep or not, do not bring up heavy topics. If you don’t have the balls to talk about them, do not bring up heavy topics if you do not have the balls to talk about ’em. You guys skirt around some of those issues. I’ve seen you do it before. I know you guys have inside information a lot of times and you have to be careful, but you want to talk about it, but you’re ruining yourselves. You’re ruining your own personal brand by having those conversations when you can’t go deep about ’em, and it was fucking insulting to Chase.


I don’t know if he knew in advance that was going to be one of the questions, but to have him on there and to have him try to address that because this is a very, very sensitive subject. I want to show you this though. If you go to the Lone Ranger podcast, it’s the Koon episode, and if you pull up to 25, 35, and I want you to hear this brilliant monologue, you’re going to have to let it play through a little bit Chase and we’ll see what happens. This is on the Ksi host. This Lauren Cleal host this, and this is where the podcast gets really good. She says, how can be more lucrative? She knows it’s an open question. She prefaces it like, Hey, I’m going to give you guys some room to breathe and listen what Chase says here. This is some fucking great shit. Here we go,

Speaker 8 (12:04):

You and what we have done, and that’s connecting the difference between what we do in the gym and I think health as a whole, health and fitness CrossFit should come out and tell people what we really are. We are a life-changing health and fitness organization. You should come to us. If you want to lose weight, you should come to us. If you want to increase your muscle mass, you should come to us. If you’re having mental health problems or you’re feeling lonely or you want to pick up your grandkids for the rest of your life,

Sevan Matossian (12:36):

How’s that right there? Even that would be too sensitive for this administration and this regime. You should come to us if you don’t want to die from Covid. This was brilliant, and he keeps going. Anyone who wants to go and watch the whole lecture he gives. It starts at about 25, 25 on the Lone Ranger Podcast as an affiliate owner. Bill, please weigh in on this. I feel like that we don’t have anyone taking a stand anymore with Greg, not at the helm about what Covid or what CrossFit is and what we can actually claim that it does. It cures type two diabetes.

Bill Grundler (13:11):

When Dave first came back and he was doing those affiliate kind of little meetings, he’d gather a bunch of people together. One of the things he said was, what can we do? What can HQ do? And I go, look, I don’t want you to tell me how to coach. I don’t want you to tell me how to program. I don’t want you to tell me how to do my social media. I want you to tell everybody out there that they need to come in here. Then unless it says CrossFit, don’t waste your time with an orange something with an F 47 or whatever the things that are out there. Planet Fitness, all of it. Yeah. Thumbs up. What? That the no, what do they say? The no hate zone? No, the no judgment. Judgment free zone. Give me a break. That’s what I want, and don’t put commercials to CrossFitters that are already CrossFitting.


Spend your money on all the stuff. Putting a commercial on NFL, on NBA on baseball, on some other TV show that a lot of people watch that the general public watch it because that’s where we need to put it because Chase is right and we’ve talked about it all the time. When you talk about old school CrossFit, we know what it does. This has nothing to do with CrossFit games. It has nothing to do with the sport of it has to do with, I mean, and you always sit on here, and it was Greg’s kind of moniker line too. We have the answer for the world’s most vexing problem.

Sevan Matossian (14:40):

That’s fucking bold. That’s taking a stand. Puke is taking a stand. Uncle Rhabdo is taking a stand. We used to take a stand.

Bill Grundler (14:48):

Well, you know what? Because I think I feel in the oldies, and granted it all stemmed from Greg because Greg is very, he doesn’t give a shit what people think. He never has. He has balls and that was dude, I mean, huge, huge doesn’t look like he believed

Sevan Matossian (15:04):

That CrossFit was the Bugatti of fitness. He believed it was the Lamborghini of fitness. He believed it was the best of the best, right? Not everyone’s driving a Lamborghini. Not everyone’s driving a Bugatti, and whether you agree with him or not, the reason why he doesn’t want affiliate selling shit in the stores is because he’s afraid in their gyms. They’re afraid that they’re going to sell something that’s not going to be as good as the fucking fitness. That was his concern and

Bill Grundler (15:28):

That line that he said on your show just earlier that week, that’s what he said. He’s like, what else do you have to sell? We’re selling years on their life. We’re selling them back years, not a drink. That’s going to get you feeling good so you can go to school afterwards. It’s going to add years to your life and add functional years to your life, period.

Jedidiah Snelson (15:50):

That’s the line that CrossFit has to take. That’s the mission. They have to be transparent. They have to be open. They have to be bold, and they have to take that stance and that we

Bill Grundler (16:00):

Can, we got to believe it, dude.

Jedidiah Snelson (16:01):

That’s the difference. I don’t know if we can save lives and we can change lives because here’s the other reality, the sport side, the game side, it’s too niche. It’s never going to go anywhere like motocross. Supercross has gone through the same thing. They’ve had appearances by athletes on the Jay Leno show when it was back then and they thought, this is going to blow us up. This is what’s going to get us attention. Nobody gave a shit because it’s too niche On the sports side, they don’t care, so the only stance that CrossFit can really take is to appeal to the general public and that’s we can change your life and they have to preach, and that message has to get out boldly and transparently.

Sevan Matossian (16:42):

27 35, chase continues. This is on the Lone Ranger podcast hosted by Lauren Kalil. I think it might be their most popular show, the Death By Show. It’s a great series. She’s continued it for a long time. It’s got feet now for sure. I think at 27 40, you can start here. It’s fine. Whatever. Let’s do it. There we go. You know me,

Speaker 10 (17:06):

Viv, again, we’ll go back to the question, what would the timeline be? Is this a one-year plan or do we need to be looking more of a five-year plan?

Sevan Matossian (17:13):

Okay, pause this. Hold on. So she’s asking, when can we move to this plan of taking a stand and when she asks him that, I’m like, fucking now. Today, today, yesterday. There’s no timeline for it. It’s who we are. We drive a fucking Bugatti. Now listen to Chase’s answer. He’s a fucking G. Let’s go

Speaker 8 (17:32):

Forever plan starting tomorrow. This isn’t, Hey, we made it. It is. We are going to constantly evolve. What this really is, we’re going to be that truthful connection between health basic, your basic health, life-saving health, health and fitness, and that is a forever thing, right? That is a forever

Bill Grundler (17:50):


Sevan Matossian (17:51):

Forever is now. It’s always it’s the truth. Bam. Somebody take a fucking stand over there.

Bill Grundler (18:01):


Taylor Self (18:02):

The only reason they get views is because Chase is amazing and because you bring it up on your show.

Bill Grundler (18:08):

I said, it is true. Hundred, dude, you want to know. What’s interesting is if you were to ask Taylor or any of the other JR and they were said, Hey, are you done trying to get anyone else in your gym to help ’em out? No. If any of us were right. Exactly. That’s what Cross. That’s the view that CrossFit has to have. CrossFit is the worldwide affiliate. We’re local affiliates. They should be looking at the exact same way. I’m not going to tell someone not to come into my gym. I’m not going to tell ’em I can’t help ’em. I don’t care what their issue is. I know that I can help ’em out. I know that I can. I believe that I can. I don’t have to sell ’em on a membership. It’s interesting. I’m not a good salesman. I look at some of the business things out there and they tell you how to sell and how to get people hooked, and I’m not good at that, but I can tell you if I believe it, I can tell you it, and I’m a coach and I know what I can do. I mean,

Taylor Self (19:11):

You’re describing real quick, you’re describing like my boss, Andy, worst salesman ever. Somebody walks in the door and he’s like, Hey, you’re going to try out a couple classes. You’re either going to love it or you’re going to hate it, and I’m not going to sell you on it, but you’re going to try us out a couple of times this week for free and you’re going to see what it’s about and we can change your life. There is nothing to sell really. No.

Bill Grundler (19:33):


Taylor Self (19:33):

Are passionate. If

Bill Grundler (19:34):

You believe it, if you believe it.

Taylor Self (19:36):

That passion, dude, I want to fucking save your life. I want to help you. Where is that from hq? Where

Jedidiah Snelson (19:46):

Is that? One of the best taglines I still like is CrossFit is not for everyone, but it’s for anyone, and it gives this mystery ore around it. When people really think about that and they’re like, well, wait a minute, am I being left out? Or, you know what I mean? That it’s not for everyone, but it’s for anyone. Any background doesn’t matter, and we see people come to it from any background, Hey,

Bill Grundler (20:07):

What if One of the things I like that Greg used to say was he’s like, look, it’s hard. Yeah, it is. Here’s what we’re going to do. Three months. Give me three months. Write something down on a piece of paper. Don’t tell me what you want, but tell me it’s something you want to be better at. You want to be lose weight, better flexibility, better husband, better at your job, make more money. Whatever it is, put it in the envelope. Close it up. We’ll pull it out three months later. Tell me if you’re not better at it without, and he was saying how that would equate to all of these other things. You know what I mean? Could you imagine if those kind of comments, how is it that I thrive off of those things that he said? That’s what I liked about Greg. It wasn’t that Greg didn’t make mistakes for us. I mean, there were things where, dude, there’s no media team anymore, but you said it was a media team. What the games is totally what? Now you’re going to change this thing over here. There were mistakes that were made, but everything that he said was from the inside. Passion guts, and how was it that no one else stand for shit?

Sevan Matossian (21:15):

He took a stand for shit. Yeah, there was no hidden

Bill Grundler (21:17):

Agenda. Why doesn’t Dawn or anybody else take those same phrases and say, ’em, I don’t I fucking say his shit.

Taylor Self (21:25):

I don’t think their mission is to save people’s lives anymore. I’ll say it. I think their mission is to make fucking money and to sell CrossFit for more than what they bought it for, which fine.

Sevan Matossian (21:41):

There’s a very interesting point here, which is interesting. There’s things that this show, I had my YouTube channel suspended for a week because I said that diet and exercise were the best way to combat Covid, and now they have a guy working for the fucking affiliate team who was part of the censorship regime on Twitter.

Taylor Self (21:58):

Jesus, dude. I

Sevan Matossian (21:59):

Saw some of these posts and remember it was low carb was kicked off of Facebook in 2020. The largest low carb group on Facebook, squatting below parallel used to be bad. The censorship is just crazy. We need someone who can take a stand. They’re not doing that. Basically what they’re trying to do is they’re trying to, the games is supposed to cast the broadest net possible so that we can have the largest participation. CrossFit itself is not like that. It’s what Jet IA said. It’s for anybody, but it’s not for everybody. You don’t want to be red pilled. You don’t want to work hard. It’s not for you. You don’t want to take personal accountability, personal responsibility. You’re offended by Puy. Sorry.

Taylor Self (22:44):

Yeah. You got to want change for yourself. Yeah, it’s, you can’t help people who don’t want it, and those are the people who CrossFit is not for, it’s for the people who don’t want to help themselves, but for the people who want help, this is the place to go.

Sevan Matossian (23:02):

Tom, shut up. Take my money. Just the boys sitting around and trading old Glassman quotes, shut up and take my money. Thank you, brother. I appreciate it.

John Young (23:10):

What would you have headquarters do? Because No, no, no. Specifically not just mentality or personality. We don’t have Greg Glassman. I’m with it too. We don’t have have Jay de Koons

Sevan Matossian (23:26):

Not send out emails, send out emails, not send out emails asking How much would you pay for affiliation? Do you want us to tell you what color shirts to wear and then not even tell you what the purpose of the survey is? We need a fucking leader who just tells us what the fuck to do that fits inside the current fucking affiliate model. We need someone to, that takes a stand, and when someone puts up a sign that says We cure type two diabetes in front of their affiliate, we don’t need HQ being scared about it. We need them applauding and putting it on the front end. Go ahead.

Taylor Self (24:00):

Go. Well, I think Bill, bill, say what you were going to say. Go ahead.

Bill Grundler (24:04):

No, take it, dude.

Taylor Self (24:05):

Got it. I think that, well, bill said earlier, I don’t want HQ telling me what to do. I am not a genius. I don’t know

Sevan Matossian (24:15):

All, so maybe not tell you what to do, what to stand for, what we stand for, what the organization stands for, and if people don’t like it, then they can leave. Stop trying to

Taylor Self (24:23):

Tease everyone. I know what stand for. I’ve taken the level one. Everybody else needs to know what we stand for. I don’t have the platform that HQ has.

Bill Grundler (24:32):

I think that the way that you start the forever plan, like Chase was talking about, and we’ve heard that, we’ve heard this particular word when it comes to HQ a lot over the last three years. Transparency, and what I think is important about transparency is for us, man, we talked about it on our show about the open and the quarter of finals. This level of trust has been just completely dissipated out. Where we hear things that happen, it’s like we’re doing this. In the old days, we’d still kick and scream when it was Greg saying it, but at least there was an idea of where we were going. There was always an understanding of what our drive was, what our, the vision

Sevan Matossian (25:15):

Mission was. The vision, the mission.

Bill Grundler (25:17):

Yeah, our torts. It was out there and nobody now knows what it is, and so if your contingency, your people think that all you’re trying to do is gather money, then explain to me whatever the things are that you are going to be doing, tell us how it’s not that. Tell us what’s going to happen with it to raise. We talked about this on the show yesterday. If they wanted to raise the amount of the open, the cost for doing the open $20, make it $40, whatever, you’re going to have more money coming in. Cool. Tell us where that money’s going. Tell us what you’re going to do with that. Don’t just say, we have more things to help you with. Give us something that’s going to help that we’re doing, but explain it. And the thing is that right now I feel like they are designing things or they’re coming up with these ideas in a bubble or it’s in someone else’s bubble. It’s in Orange Series bubble. It’s in F 40 five’s bubble, but it’s not our bubble. And just tell us what you’re going to do. Explain it to us so that we can get on your train, because right now we’re all standing there at the station going, I dunno what the fuck is happening. I have no idea. I’m just going to turn in and I’m going to go do my gym, my gym stuff. At least I know what’s going on there.

Taylor Self (26:33):

And it doesn’t even feel like they’re trying to make more money for affiliates. They’re trying to take more money from affiliates rather than trying to get more people into CrossFit to make affiliation more popular.

Sevan Matossian (26:45):

Give me one second. Give me one second. Give me one second.

Taylor Self (26:48):

This better be Jesus Christ.

Sevan Matossian (26:50):

This is is Jesus Christ. This is Jesus Christ. Hold on, hold on, hold on. It’s perfect. It is perfect timing. Hey John.

Bill Grundler (26:59):

Keep it down, dude. Keep it down. You need to relax. John spazzing out over there.

Sevan Matossian (27:06):

Hey, hold on one second. I’m trying to connect it. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Call her. Hi.

Taylor Self (27:29):

It is Jesus Christ. I don’t ever hear him when I talk to him.

John Young (27:31):

This is an old man trying to figure out technology over here,

Bill Grundler (27:35):

But I’m pushing the buttons and nothing’s happening.

Sevan Matossian (27:37):

Oh my goodness. Don’t understand. Oh my goodness. It’s me. Hold

Bill Grundler (27:41):

On. There’s no buttons on my phone. What do I do? I don’t.

Taylor Self (27:45):

I’ll shut up as soon as the call goes through, but John, okay,

Sevan Matossian (27:47):

Go ahead.

Taylor Self (27:48):

HQ can’t do anything because HQ is not in charge. What you and I and Bill and Jedediah and Savon, Noah is hq. Those are not the people making decisions. There’s a handful of people in a boardroom who don’t tell anybody else a fucking thing, and I think those are the people that are making decisions.

Jedidiah Snelson (28:08):

I think they want to become F 45. I think the survey and the email and everything, I think it’s all about becoming F 45, but the thing that I’ve seen is that’s already proven to be a failing model. What a

Taylor Self (28:19):

Fucking retarded God.

Jedidiah Snelson (28:20):

Dude, every F 45 in our area that’s opened is closed.

Sevan Matossian (28:25):

Hello? Hey, the fuck is wrong with this machine?

Taylor Self (28:35):

Caleb, fix it.

Sevan Matossian (28:36):

He can’t. He can’t. Oh my

Taylor Self (28:41):

God. Who was it?

Sevan Matossian (28:43):

Can’t tell you.

Taylor Self (28:44):

No, dude.

Bill Grundler (28:47):

Someone said It’s Laura Horvath.

Sevan Matossian (28:49):

Yeah, it was

John Young (28:52):

Just somebody super random like Josh Bridges or somebody like that. Hey man. It’s just a completely different topic, so in a nutshell, leave the affiliates alone, which I think everybody would agree with that. I think CrossFit is successful because every affiliate can be unique into their own. They can run how they want to run, and I am a big proponent of the best affiliates will survive and they won’t get the

Taylor Self (29:23):

Best trainer crushed.

John Young (29:26):

The people who are doing the most good will prevail. It’s not going to get overran by a whole bunch of different, they’re not going to fail if they’re not being ran well,

Taylor Self (29:34):

And people want to do that. People want to affiliate when they make the decisions. And look, the other thing about that is you have people like Chase and Bill that are trying to sell it for you. They believe so fucking much in it that when somebody walks in their door, they’re like, holy shit, I’m staying here. This person caress.

Bill Grundler (29:55):

There is a lot of, they want lot of questioning though, but there’s a lot of questioning of people saying, well.

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