Dillon Loewen | Not Just a Pretty Face

Sevan Matossian (00:03):

Ba, we’re live. Good morning everyone. Philip Kelly. What’s up, dude, first? Yeah, look at you. Look at you with your little AI photo, your big AI photo. Kenneth, what’s up? What’s up, dude? Good morning, Jake Chapman. What’s up? What is up? Jake? What do you do when you listen to this show? What are you? You’re eight hours ahead, so it’s 6:55 AM here at eight hours. That’d be 3:00 PM 3:00 PM on the aisle of man. I am not at home, as you can see. Good morning, Natalie. I am in Idaho. I have a entire second floor. At some point, I’ll give you guys a tour. I’ll put it on my Instagram and show you where I’m doing this podcast. It’s crazy. Right out these doors here behind me is Cour d’Alene, that’s how you pronounce it. Cour d’Alene. Beautiful lake doesn’t look big, has some very, very interesting qualities.


Very cold in the winter. Warms up in the summer, I believe. But one of the fascinating qualities about the lake, someone was explaining to me the other day, is that I think it’s something like, and I’m making these numbers up, but it’s like Lake Tahoe in California. I think it’s the deepest freshwater lake in the United States. It takes, I don’t know if Caleb’s here, he can look it up to the specifics, but it’s some weird stat. Like every 800 years, all the lake in the water is refreshed. So that’s how long it takes. But this lake behind me, it’s less than one season, which I dunno what causes that, but I think that they raise it and lower it, and they open dams and there’s a river coming in and a river going out, and it’s one of the great play lakes, basically. It’s just suited perfectly for human beings in the summertime. So there’s a lot of really wealthy people up here out in the middle of nowhere, and it’s really cool. It’s clean, it’s safe, it’s pleasant, it’s quiet. People are polite. It’s everything that California is not. Hey, Caleb. What’s up, dude?


Before the show starts today, we’re going to have Dylan Lowen on today. Ariel Low’s husband. Cool, cat. What’s up, Tyler? How you doing, buddy? On a Hi. Hey, good afternoon. Afternoon. It’s afternoon. Oh, you’re with Philip Kelly on the phone. You guys watched the show together. That’s cute. That’s really cool. Jeff, what’s up Deadlift 365 by five. Good on you. The beer. Kelly, what’s up? I hope you’re enjoying the show. Episode six is a huge hit. I’ve sent it out to, I don’t know, two dozen people for early screening. Tried to send it out to a bunch of the athletes who are featured in it, and they’re absolutely loving it. Can you hear me? I can hear you good. There you go. Awesome. Hey, could you pull up Thomas DeLauer? No, sorry. Mark Bell’s Instagram account. I want to read you guys something. I’m trying to piece together what happened to Mark Bell.


I haven’t dug too deep, but the last guest that Mark Bell had on from what I hear was Andrew Huberman, who you guys know. He does all the podcasts, right? He’s the Stanford PhD who’s always telling you hacks on things for life. I think maybe he’s like a PhD neurobiologist or something like that. He was on with a guy who is an expert. It’s going to be at the top where we’re going to go. It’s that Thomas, it’s the sixth post with the writing on it. So the last podcast a couple of days ago, supposedly that Mark Bell had on, he had Andrew Huberman on and some guy who was a sun expert, basically how humans interact to the sun. And he was talking about light and how we interact with it.


And then right after that, after he posted that, supposedly he was pulled down and as one of my friends described it, he said, Hey, it’s some 22-year-old girl who uses hearts instead of dots for the letter of eyes. And every third word out of her mouth is like spotted that and pulled it down. But this is what Thomas DeLauer says in regards to Mark Bell’s podcast getting pulled down under the new YouTube guidelines for health information, they have a category sunlight in the medical category. Lemme read that one more time. Under the new YouTube guidelines for health information, they have categorized sunlight in the medical category. This means that only content from doctors and approved sources can have videos on sunlight.


Houston, we have a problem. So what I’m piecing together here is that Mark Bell had a guest on to qualify people, and they were discussing sun and human skin, and they were talking about it and maybe talking about, I didn’t see the podcast, but generally how those go, what’s safe, what’s not safe, what’s healthy? Do we need vitamin D? Would that have cured this or that? And I’m guessing he did a podcast on that and they pulled down his podcast. For those of you who don’t know who Mark Bella is, he’s been around forever. He was one of the first guys that I recall coming out openly and being like, Hey, I’m juiced up. And he openly talking about steroid use, which was really cool. We always appreciate someone who’s transparent. And then he was, I think the first podcast that Greg Glassman did besides this podcast a couple months ago.


And what’s interesting is a bunch of people who are known, I don’t want to say cowards in the community, but a bunch of people who are known to have played it safe and who would always be like, Hey, you shouldn’t put this on YouTube. You shouldn’t put that on YouTube. They’re now speaking up for Mark Bell, which I find fascinating. Oh, there’s one, this guy who’s on the podcast before Zach Lander, he had given me advice and Hiller advice on how to play it safe on YouTube. And when I watch his podcast, not his podcast, when I watch Zach’s videos, anytime it’s a subject outside of weightlifting, it becomes very abstract and obtuse. And I would say he plays it very, very, very, very, very, very, very safe. And some people are like, Hey, s, why do you have to talk about snatching and the vaccine? Why can’t you leave politics out of it? And I don’t think it’s politics. I don’t think it’s politics. I don’t think forcing your kids to take drugs is politics.


I was somewhere yesterday, I was at a Jim’s anniversary yesterday, and a dad walks in with his newborn holding it in his hands, and everyone gathers around the baby and the first thing he says is, the baby’s running a little hot this morning. He just had his vaccines. You would never let someone off the street inject you with drugs, especially if you didn’t know what they were or you didn’t need them. And yet, for some reason, we’ve built this trust with a group of people who inject our kids with drugs and we don’t even know what’s in them. What’s interesting too is as I drove up from California to Coeur d’Alene, it took me three days and I stopped at a bunch of places called Love’s. There are these gas stations, I assume they have ’em all over the country. There are these huge gas stations. And I go in and I get a cup of coffee and I let my kids go over to that. Every single love’s has this box, and there’s all these little tiny knives in it and nail clippers and key chains. And every time we go in there, I let my kids pick one out. So by the time we got here, they had each had four pocket knives, different ones, like ones with guns that pop out, they had laser pointers, they got all the shit. I probably spent $300 on shit out of that box.


And every single person in the Loves had a better bedside manner than the doctors at Kaiser. The doctors at Kaiser don’t say hi to you. They don’t ask you your name, they don’t ask you how you’re doing. There’s no pleasantries, but it loves. It’s like, hi, how are you doing? Did you get everything you need today? Oh, excuse me. Oh, did you know that we have a new creamer over there? How is it that they’re nicer at Starbucks than they are at the hospital? The whole thing is bizarre. Yesterday I wanted to do a show over on Twitter. I wanted to go over and do, start doing a show on Twitter and start training all of us to go over there. Dylan. What’s up dude? Hey. Oh, he’s frozen already. That’s cool. Did you get a haircut for the show? Dylan? Did you get a haircut for the show?

Dillon Loewen (09:29):

No, man, I just took off my hat.

Sevan Matossian (09:32):

Oh, alright. Alright.

Dillon Loewen (09:34):

Hey, the funny thing is, I was sitting in the stream yard for 10 minutes and I didn’t know I had to join.

Sevan Matossian (09:42):

Oh, that’s good.

Dillon Loewen (09:43):

I was sitting here patiently waiting for y’all, and then I was like, man, maybe I’m doing something wrong. So I’m scrolling down and I see that I’m actually having to join. So apologize for being late.

Sevan Matossian (09:56):

The truth is something like this, if you know how to use Streamy yard, you’re less of a man that doesn’t know how to use Streamy Yard somewhere. The truth is like that. I’ve taken this very abled soldier from the United States military and made him a streamy yard expert, Caleb Beaver, and now his testosterone’s lowered by probably 20 points. Poor guy, easily.

Dillon Loewen (10:17):

He’s tech savvy. Now

Sevan Matossian (10:18):

I’ll follow it under disability. It’s okay.

Dillon Loewen (10:23):

What’s up? Not much. How are y’all doing?

Sevan Matossian (10:25):

Living the dream, dude. Living the dream.

Dillon Loewen (10:29):

Greg. Gregs.

Sevan Matossian (10:30):

Yeah, I’m at Greg’s house and Coeur, it’s early in the morning here. Everyone’s still asleep. We stayed up super late last night and watched the UFC fights. It’s cool. I’m surrounded by friends and I’m getting to watch all the kids play. I love watching the kids play. There’s so many kids here and they’re just running around playing. It’s dope. It reminds me you kind of live vicariously through them. It reminds you of when you were playing with your own cousins.

Dillon Loewen (10:52):

Yeah, a hundred percent. Actually, speaking of cousins, we all got together every Sundays at grandma’s and I grew up with my dad’s like a child of nine, and my mom’s like a child of seven or eight. So this is something you probably don’t know about me, but my family are migrants from Mexico. You know how to have a lot of kids so they can put ’em to work on the farms. That’s how my family was too. So I have tons of cousins and all that good stuff. And we get together at grandma’s on Sundays after church and have barbecue and get to play with cousins. So I’m really close to all my family. My cousins, we still hang out to this day and we’re all 30 plus years old, so it’s pretty sweet having that family bond. Super, super

Sevan Matossian (11:39):

Awesome. You have 16 uncles and aunts?

Dillon Loewen (11:42):

Yeah, I have a ton of ’em. Yep. And they’re all still alive, still healthy, strong. When you work hard every day builds a strong heart.

Sevan Matossian (11:50):

You’re Mexican.

Dillon Loewen (11:52):

No. Do you know what that is?

Sevan Matossian (11:55):

Amish? Is that like Amish? I dunno, you’re like alien. You came from outer space. What is that?

Dillon Loewen (12:01):

Yeah, outer space out of this country. So yeah, I’m first generation American.

Sevan Matossian (12:06):

What’s Mennonite? I thought you said your parents. So when you said your parents were migrants, they weren’t from Mexico migrants.

Dillon Loewen (12:11):

They were. So there were a small community in Mexico that were just Mennonites, so they kind of lived outside of the Mexican people, but they had a community of their own. I think now that community has grown to like 80,000 people in a city called Chihuahua. And that’s where both of my parents were born and raised. And then my dad came to the United States when he was like 25. And my mom when she was like 15, my parents are 10 years apart. What is that called? A cradle robber, something like that.

Sevan Matossian (12:49):

Yeah, that was the affectionate term. Now it’s called Epstein Island, but back in the day it was called Robin.

Dillon Loewen (12:55):

Yeah, something like that. So yeah, he got her young and brought her to the United States and been here ever since. But we’ve traveled a lot back and forth. Well, especially when my parents were still together to see family cousins and stuff like that. So I have a lot of connections to Mexico

Sevan Matossian (13:15):

Coffee pods and watts. Dylan is easily in the top 10 of people I’ve met since I started the podcast. Oh, that’s awesome. Wait, so how did the Mennonites end up in Mexico? They’re Germans. Someone in the comments wrote They’re Germans. Mennonites are Germans.

Dillon Loewen (13:29):

Yeah, something along those lines. I have never really dove deep into my ancestry, which is kind of lame on my part. But from my understanding is it was in a region like south. Everybody’s told me it’s a region south of Russia somewhere between Russia and Germany. And they migrated from there about a hundred years ago. So I know my dad’s great grandparents migrated from that area to Mexico. And then my dad’s grandparents and his parents and him lived in Mexico. And then from there they’ve just kind of scattered. Some live in Canada, some live with the Amish in Pennsylvania area. And then here in west Texas we actually have quite a big group of Mennonites as well. So

Sevan Matossian (14:20):

Is it a cult? Is it a cult? Is it?

Dillon Loewen (14:23):

Yeah, I would say it’s kind of like a cult. It’s more how the Amish, it’s very similar to the Amish as far as they grew up in their own little community and they have more of religion as far as manmade religion where women wear coverings, head coverings, they wear dresses that really cover them from head to toe, not shaving, using deodorant, which you would probably enjoy.

Sevan Matossian (14:51):

Yeah, maybe I need a Mennonite chick. I like all that so far. I like all that. Yeah,

Dillon Loewen (14:56):

Well it was funny. How about

Sevan Matossian (14:57):

Electricity and stuff? Can they use electricity and stuff like that? Because the Amish can’t use stuff like that, right? Like gas powered shit and electricity.

Dillon Loewen (15:04):

I would say the biggest difference between the Mennonites and the Amish was they’re more tech savvy. So my dad didn’t grow up with Nice. Yeah, that’s my kind of women right there, bro.

Sevan Matossian (15:15):

Yeah, I like it. I

Dillon Loewen (15:16):

Like it. That’s a good looking woman dude.

Sevan Matossian (15:20):

Yeah, baby makers. Those look like baby makers to me.

Dillon Loewen (15:23):

Hard workers too. What’s funny is growing up, my dad always told us that we had to marry a Mennonite and this is what you would see on a typical Mennonite and you see these American women. I’m like, dude, I do not want to marry a Mennonite.

Sevan Matossian (15:39):

Hey, did you watch the UFC fights last night?

Dillon Loewen (15:43):

No, but I looked it up this morning. I saw stricken loss. Sadly,

Sevan Matossian (15:48):

There was this woman from Brazil who fought a Bueno Silva and her body was absolutely insane. And I was just wondering if you liked that kind of body. Her body was nuts. I mean she was so woman, you know what I mean? I did not like her fighting. I did not her. I did not like that thing getting punched. Man, that thing was crazy. I wonder what other people think. Did you guys think she was incredible? But she always has this look on her face. She’s crying no matter what. She kind of looks like she got Lou Reno’s face. Do you know who that is? The incredible Hulk from the seventies?

Dillon Loewen (16:25):

Yes, I do know who that is.

Sevan Matossian (16:26):

Yeah, she got Lou Faros face on the most insane voluptuous long leg body ever. She was a trip. I was Oh, you got, yeah. I dunno if this, oh no, that’s not her. She’s, she’s kind of hard to find on the gram chalk one up for Caleb. That’s rare. January 21st, 2020 4, 7 12 A failed by Caleb.

Dillon Loewen (16:50):

Crazy. I don’t know if you’re saying long leg. They’re nice, but I like Ariel’s legs.

Sevan Matossian (16:56):

Yeah, who doesn’t fuck. Who doesn’t? Yeah. Long. Yeah, who doesn’t?

Dillon Loewen (17:01):

Yeah. So that was one

Sevan Matossian (17:04):

When your dad said you had to marry a Mennonite, was he serious or was it kind of like tongue in cheek joking?

Dillon Loewen (17:09):

No, it was a hundred percent serious. So I grew up really strict.

Sevan Matossian (17:17):

Hold on, you broke up. Hold on. This is going to be good. Hold on. Look at David weed. Look at, that’s not fair. You’re inside my head. That is so not fair. Am I back when I said she has a great body, David Weed says. In other words, she had huge augers. Come on, come on. Don’t share that. That’s like secrets that you have inside my head that no one else has. Come on.

Dillon Loewen (17:39):

Am my back.

Sevan Matossian (17:41):

Yeah, you’re back. Okay, so your dad was crazy strict?

Dillon Loewen (17:44):

Yeah, he was really strict, honestly, I’d almost say borderline racist. Yeah, he didn’t want us playing. I kind of grew up not in the ghetto, but I didn’t grow up in a really good place of town and he didn’t really want me playing with black kids and stuff like that. My first crush was a black girl, so he was kind of down on that. But yeah, he really wanted us to marry a Mennonite woman. But my parents separated when we were like 12 years old and that kind of just all went out the door.

Sevan Matossian (18:18):

What about Mexican kids? Were you allowed to play with Mexican kids?

Dillon Loewen (18:21):

Yeah, we were because that’s what he was accustomed to being around was Mexican kids. So my dad actually at heart, dude, he is really a Mexican guy. He wears a taco hat and skinned ostrich cowboy boots. That’s his daily attire and all that good stuff. And so

Sevan Matossian (18:42):

What’s he drive? Does he have horns on the front of his truck?

Dillon Loewen (18:45):

No, but he drives big truck here in West Texas. Everybody drives big trucks.

Sevan Matossian (18:50):

You got an El Camino, is that an El Camino in the garage or

Dillon Loewen (18:53):

I think when he was younger he actually had something similar to an El Camino. Yeah. But yeah, he grew up horse buggy before he moved to the United States.

Sevan Matossian (19:04):

What’s interesting, there’s a few things I like about, I dunno what you, I hate to call it black culture, let’s call it hillbilly culture because Thomas soul says that the blacks took it from hillbillies. And I really like Mexican culture, but the one thing I don’t like about Mexicans is they have too many tweeters in their car. All their music’s on the high range. And I like black music with bass. I like bass, you know what I mean? So Mexican drives by and it’s like it’s just so high and you guys got 10 tweeters in there and it’s like Jesus Christ, how about take out some of those tweeters and put in some woofers?

Dillon Loewen (19:42):

Heck yeah. You know what

Sevan Matossian (19:42):

I’m talking about That music? That music,

Dillon Loewen (19:45):

Yeah. Rob? Yeah, I live in the same area as the majority of the people where we live are Hispanic and I grew up very Hispanic as far as my dad just listens to Hispanic music. He doesn’t listen to American music. Everything is in Spanish. Like I said, honestly, my dad, my dad’s

Sevan Matossian (20:05):

Racist. It sounds like he hates white people too. So let’s be fair, he didn’t want you playing with the black kids or the white kids. Were you allowed to play with non Mennonites?

Dillon Loewen (20:14):

Yeah, well where we live in Midland, there are no Mennonites. The closest Mennonite community is about an hour away, which is where my dad originally moved to when he came from Mexico. And then as he got older and developed in business and stuff like that, we moved to Midland. There’s more work, which where we live is the oil capital of the United States. So it’s always busting out here with construction. That’s what most Mennonites do is either farming or construction. And so my dad went the construction route and there’s always been work out here in Midland.

Sevan Matossian (20:49):

Is that how you got your construction chops?

Dillon Loewen (20:52):

Yeah, a hundred percent Mennonites, they’re known to be hard workers, so I didn’t have a typical upbringing. I went with my dad to work every day. Summertime I went to work with my dad. I didn’t have really a childhood where I went out and played on the summers like most kids did. I even got truancy issues in school because my dad would pull me out of school to go to work with him. Yeah, I was 12 years old and my dad would drop me off at a job site and what our main deal was was seamless rain gutters. Are you familiar with that?

Sevan Matossian (21:29):

No, but I can kind of imagine.

Dillon Loewen (21:31):

Yeah. Okay. So I mean rain gutters that catch the water off of your fascia board instead of having pieces stripped together that you’d get at Home Depot or something. This is a machine that runs it out in one seamless piece. So yeah, I was 12 years old around that time and my dad would just drop me off at a job site, bring me lunch, and then come pick me up at the end of the day and that was my childhood.

Sevan Matossian (21:55):

What’s the biggest job you ever did for Seamless gutters?

Dillon Loewen (21:59):

Like a manion, what you’d probably consider manchin, but I’ve

Sevan Matossian (22:02):

Done. And how much does that cost? How much does that cost to get a big, huge 15,000 square foot home with seamless gutters?

Dillon Loewen (22:10):

Three stories? Yeah, it starts going up in money when there’s a chances of falling off of a ladder that high. But I would say a big house like that, maybe 15, $20,000.

Sevan Matossian (22:22):

Oh, that’s not bad.

Dillon Loewen (22:23):

Yeah, not terrible. So it runs by linear foot. I’m not too familiar now what it is a linear foot, but I think my dad charges around $10 a linear foot

Sevan Matossian (22:32):

For install, installing. And that’s for it being custom made and installation?

Dillon Loewen (22:37):

Yeah. Do you pick your color, all that good stuff.

Sevan Matossian (22:43):

Have you ever fallen off a roof?

Dillon Loewen (22:45):

No, but I’ve fallen off of the ladder three times.

Sevan Matossian (22:49):

Has your dad fallen off a roof?

Dillon Loewen (22:51):

He has. I think before I was born he was doing, do you know what steel siding is?

Sevan Matossian (22:57):

No. I think corrugated that corrugated stuff that you see on a lot of CrossFit gyms in the Midwest and shit.

Dillon Loewen (23:03):

Something like

Sevan Matossian (23:03):

That. I bet you jr’s gym is made of corrugated steel.

Dillon Loewen (23:07):

Yeah, so it’s facade that goes on the outside of a house made of steel.

Sevan Matossian (23:12):

Oh, okay. Yep, yep.

Dillon Loewen (23:14):

He did a lot of that growing up and he was doing it on a church on a top steeple and he fell off of that, which he had the ladder. His extension ladder wasn’t tall enough and so he said he had to put it on the back of his truck to reach the tip

Sevan Matossian (23:30):


Dillon Loewen (23:30):

It slipped and he fell 30 feet and he broke his arm. And I believe that was before I was born, which that’s scary to think about falling that far off of a ladder.

Sevan Matossian (23:41):

I feel like all the jobs where you work on the roof and someone either hitting their head, oh, my dad fell off the roof, broke his back and hit his head and he’s never been the same. I feel like, I mean you’ve probably heard a shitload of stories of people falling off roofs, right?

Dillon Loewen (23:57):

Yeah, a hundred percent. A hundred percent.

Sevan Matossian (23:59):

You ever been at the job site when someone falls off the roof?

Dillon Loewen (24:03):

No, I have not. No sir.

Sevan Matossian (24:05):

Mennonites probably do it different. The Germans do it different. You guys are probably more precise.

Dillon Loewen (24:12):

We are. We take very big pride in our work. I think that’s one of the things I pride myself most on is if I do something, I want to do it right.

Sevan Matossian (24:22):

Oh yeah. Look, Jody Lynn, Mr. Madero did that. That’s right. Okay. So Justin’s dad fell off a roof, I think I remember hearing that and broke his back.

Dillon Loewen (24:31):

Wow. That’s something in common with the great Justin Madero.

Sevan Matossian (24:36):

So you never lived in Mexico or you did and then you moved up here?

Dillon Loewen (24:43):

No, I never did, but we came this close to living out there. My dad actually has a ranch that he bought when we were younger and his dream was to be a farmer out there and move us back there. It just financially never happened. And also, like I said, my parents divorced when I was like 12 years old, so that just kind of went their separate ways. But my dad still has that ranch growing up. Me and my dad would go out there a lot and that was a developing Mennonite community. So at that time there was very few Mennonites out there and they were all farming and we would just sit out there and camp and he had bought a ditch witcher and would dig trenches for the local farmers to get irrigation to their crops and stuff like that. So I did a lot of that growing up with my dad as well. I would say me and my dad we’re best friends today and I think that’s just because the majority of my childhood was spent around my dad. I don’t know if I spent more time with anybody else than I did with my dad.

Sevan Matossian (25:52):

Hey, that’s crazy Cool. I don’t know if I’ve ever heard anyone say that.

Dillon Loewen (25:56):

Yeah, a hundred percent. And it’s so crazy because I’ve seen a lot of mistakes in his life, especially with our family. We didn’t have a really strong family. I never really saw love between my parents and stuff like that. And my dad was habitual cheater. I think that’s the correct word. And so I just saw a lot of that brokenness in my family and especially when my parents divorced, I hated my dad for a small season. And it’s so crazy because I mean that hate didn’t last long. It lasted like a summer. It was the only summer I didn’t work for my dad. It was the first summer that I felt more like a child. I went and did, I bought a BMX bike, got into riding at the skate park and stuff like that. And I’m just thankful I was able to forgive my dad and cultivate that friendship again.


And we’re still today, probably closer now than we were before and it kind of sucks because I feel bad for my mom. She’s the one that took us in and raised. I have an older sister and a younger brother raised us, took care of us. My dad did pay child support, but my mom was the one there for us for the most part. And I have a closer bond to my dad than I do to my mom, even though my dad did my mom wrong. And I think about that a lot because I think it’s messed up of me to have that, but I just think it’s something, the time me and my dad spent together is, I don’t know, it shaped me to the person I am and it made me the hard worker. I pride myself in that I am willing to work hard no matter what. And I think that’s the greatest gift that my dad gave me. So I

Sevan Matossian (27:49):

Don’t know. I’m guessing your dad was very personable. This is what I get from your dad. Here’s the thing, when I hear men cheating, I just think of him as running fucked up. Harems. The difference between cheating and a harem is a harem. Everyone knows what’s going on. Cheating is some of the girls don’t know what’s going on.


But the only difference, but what I hear you describing, your dad is generous with his time. He had a high level of awareness and he saw when people needed help and he wasn’t like these fucking pussies who are virtue signalers now who just put up a fucking Black Lives Matter poster or whatever. Or they hand someone a dollar who’s a drug addict at the freeway. Your dad was actually helping people water their crops and he offers a very important service. Rain gutters are fucking crazy important and he’s in the service industry. So he services people, I’m guessing he’s great with his customers. Is that true? Because you’re great with people

Dillon Loewen (28:48):

Since I’ve always been with

Sevan Matossian (28:49):

That’s what I hear. And your dad just normal. He just likes pussy. Listen, your dad just listen. Part of being a man is when you’re about 22 or 23, you go, holy shit. You either say two things. How did my dad never fucking cheat on my mom? Or I give my dad a pass if he cheated a couple of times. I think that’s part of manhood. Now, I’m not saying it’s right or wrong, I’m just saying it’s really easy to be idealistic when you’re fucking 16.

Dillon Loewen (29:17):

Honestly, I agree with you a hundred percent on that because when I was younger I was like, man, how could my dad cheat on my mom and do that? But as I’ve grown into adult, I think I’ve gone to more understanding the temptations that the world have. And I would just say those temptations are out there for everybody. But the difference I guess between my dad and me is my dad caved into those temptations. And especially since I’ve learned a lot from my dad, that’s one thing I never want from my family is to go through that struggle. I understood the hurt that it caused the family unit and broke that apart. So I’m thankful for that lesson and.

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