Sevan Matossian (00:01):
Someone said that they thought that I used to look leaner. I am big. I’m large and in charge.
Andrew Hiller (00:07):
From where
Sevan Matossian (00:09):
They were watching your Danielle branding compilation. Someone wrote, oh, when Susa was young and Savon was leaner. I was like,
Caleb Beaver (00:16):
Damn.
Andrew Hiller (00:18):
Something to do with your beard.
Sevan Matossian (00:19):
I was fascinating for, I don’t know, 40 hours once a week.
Caleb Beaver (00:27):
Su had huge hair too. Susa had like eighties hair.
Sevan Matossian (00:33):
Yeah. What did one saggy boob say to the other saggy boob?
Andrew Hiller (00:39):
What’s hanging
Caleb Beaver (00:39):
Brace you to the bottom?
Sevan Matossian (00:41):
Good. We better get some support or people are going to start calling us nuts.
Andrew Hiller (00:48):
I think ours were better.
Sevan Matossian (00:54):
Mason Mitchell back whence swam in t-shirts. I know. This shit is like
Caleb Beaver (01:01):
At you. You yoked now.
Sevan Matossian (01:03):
One 70.
Andrew Hiller (01:06):
One 70.
Sevan Matossian (01:07):
I don’t know if I’m really one. Yeah, I’m probably one 70. Thank you. Thank you. Daniel. Brandon’s movie was released today. It was a rad production. Who’s the director? Someone Green, I thought. Scott Green. Derek Green. Directed by Scott Green.
Andrew Hiller (01:24):
Anthony Green.
Sevan Matossian (01:25):
Anthony Green. Tony Green.
Andrew Hiller (01:27):
That I can’t say for sure, but I know it says in the credits.
Sevan Matossian (01:30):
Do we know who the editor is?
Andrew Hiller (01:32):
No, but that’s also in there. Caleb, it looks like you’re on it,
Sevan Matossian (01:36):
You guys. There’s this genre of cinema.
Andrew Hiller (01:41):
Oh, this is good.
Sevan Matossian (01:43):
Cinema Verte Cinema Verte is a style of documentary filmmaking developed by Oh, Anthony Green,
Andrew Hiller (01:53):
Tony,
Sevan Matossian (01:55):
Tony Green?
Andrew Hiller (01:56):
No, and Tony.
Sevan Matossian (01:58):
Oh, that was produced. Anthony produced by the producer is the person who organizes everything and then gets, secures the money. So they do everything from bring you water to fire the director, the director’s, the guy who the work falls on him. Who’s the editor? Oh, and that’s the real money. That’s the owner of Rad, that guy Ben. Ben Massey.
Andrew Hiller (02:24):
That’s what Susa does.
Sevan Matossian (02:26):
He’s so nice. Editor. Matthew Laws W War
Andrew Hiller (02:31):
Never heard of. Have you heard
Sevan Matossian (02:33):
Of it? No, but at some point we should pull up his Instagram. No. What if he took his wife’s name? When I see that hyphen, that’s what I think
Caleb Beaver (02:43):
He could have
Andrew Hiller (02:45):
Say. I’m not a big fan of the hyphen
Sevan Matossian (02:47):
Cinema. I don’t like hyphens either, but the guy fucking killed it. Cinema Verte style of documentary filmmaking developed by Edgar Morin and Jean Rouge inspired what is meant by Cinema Verite. A style of observational documentary style filmmaking that feels real, that follows impromptu rather than scripted action. So what you saw was not cinema verite, cinema verite. It’s more like really old school PBS style. This was the complete opposite of that. It was interesting. Before the movie came out, we were like, Hey, is this going to be a documentary? Is it going to be propaganda or is it going to be a rad commercial? It definitely wasn’t a rad commercial.
Caleb Beaver (03:28):
No, not at all.
Sevan Matossian (03:31):
Zero. Zero.
Andrew Hiller (03:33):
There was one point where I thought it was going there, but then it didn’t
Sevan Matossian (03:38):
And it’s not eligible for Academy Award, although it’s good enough to be because those have DEI requirements. You have to have a certain number of gay people and people in wheelchairs, people with melanated skin and I don’t think it reached those quotas.
Andrew Hiller (03:52):
Is that true?
Sevan Matossian (03:53):
That is true. I dunno if it’s true for the documentary category, but if you knew that, that’s why when you saw Roadhouse, you’d be like,
Andrew Hiller (04:01):
You didn’t like Roadhouse.
Sevan Matossian (04:02):
I did. It’s a shit film. I’m enjoying it. I’m an hour and 40 through it. It’s a complete garbage film. I’d give it a D.
Caleb Beaver (04:09):
So you watch the whole movie,
Sevan Matossian (04:10):
But
Andrew Hiller (04:11):
Why is it bad?
Sevan Matossian (04:12):
But I enjoyed it. I’m not ever suspending my disbelief. I’m never getting lost in the movie. I’m never the Daniel Brandon movie. I was lost in it. I cried three. Well, I dunno if I cried three times in the Daniel Brandon movie. My tear ducts turned on three times.
Andrew Hiller (04:28):
You had one movie to watch for the rest of your life and you had to choose between this and Roadhouse. You choose the Daniel Brandon documentary, the New Roadhouse. You have two options. Desert Island, one movie.
Caleb Beaver (04:45):
Do I want to cry myself to sleep every day?
Sevan Matossian (04:47):
I don’t know. I really, dude, the beginning of Danielle’s documentary is amazing. Someone’s like, Hey, I don’t see what that had to do with the movie. I was like, I don’t give a fuck what it had to do with it. When she’s standing over the trunk like that with her arms all wide and shit,
Caleb Beaver (05:01):
It reminded me of Megan Fox and Transformers
Sevan Matossian (05:04):
And her fucking
Andrew Hiller (05:04):
Tit. It had to have been the point. Absolute.
Sevan Matossian (05:07):
You could see her titties and her whole body and she’s tanning. She’s over the trunk. I’m like, damn, this is a bad bitch.
Andrew Hiller (05:14):
That had to have been the point.
Sevan Matossian (05:17):
Can we start
Andrew Hiller (05:18):
Megan Fox? Scene seven. Have you seen Transformers? Do you know that?
Sevan Matossian (05:21):
No. I don’t know that scene. I know of Megan Fox. She dates the guy that Sean Strickland talks shit to.
Andrew Hiller (05:29):
That is Caleb and my,
Sevan Matossian (05:31):
Oh, and he’s the rapper who did Rap Devil, which is a great song. Ripping Eminem. Even though I like Eminem, he fucks Eminem up.
Andrew Hiller (05:38):
Check this out, dude. This is when everyone mine and Caleb’s Edge knew that we were straight.
Caleb Beaver (05:44):
Hell yeah.
Sevan Matossian (05:45):
My God.
Andrew Hiller (05:46):
This is how I would’ve answered that question on the GL podcast. You know, you were straight. It’s like, well, I saw Transformers and Megan Fox open up the hood of this car.
Caleb Beaver (05:54):
That’s right. My mom regrets taking me to this movie because of this scene
Andrew Hiller (05:58):
Shut.
Caleb Beaver (05:59):
I swear to God she told me this. I was like, she goes, I should have kept you immature for longer or whatever. Mom say.
Andrew Hiller (06:07):
How old were you though? I mean, we weren’t that young shit. I don’t
Caleb Beaver (06:09):
Know. I was still living with my mom. I know that. I
Sevan Matossian (06:12):
Thought it was a Thelma and Louise reference. I never saw that movie either, but I just know that’s a car movie with Brad Pitt.
Caleb Beaver (06:20):
This so much better.
Andrew Hiller (06:24):
Yeah, that first Transformers movie’s really good.
Sevan Matossian (06:27):
The first one is good. The rest of ’em, it’s a downhill, it’s a race to the bottom from there,
Andrew Hiller (06:31):
Right? They’re trash garbage. The first one’s amazing though.
Sevan Matossian (06:34):
It’s like the Avengers movies, the ones that aren’t about a Wolverine or garbage. Oh, those
Andrew Hiller (06:40):
Avengers movies.
Sevan Matossian (06:42):
And the Ironman was good too. Yeah. My God. Maron as they say, the Italian hood.
Andrew Hiller (06:49):
You think she’s seen Transformers? Caleb?
Caleb Beaver (06:53):
I would
Andrew Hiller (06:54):
Up there because it has to be. This
Caleb Beaver (06:56):
Has to be right.
Andrew Hiller (06:57):
Yeah.
Sevan Matossian (06:59):
Hey, in the interview, I wish they would’ve addressed her more like this than Ronald McDonald.
Andrew Hiller (07:06):
Too much makeup.
Sevan Matossian (07:07):
Yeah. I just didn’t, it was interesting, the movie, I would give that documentary a 10 me personally, and I felt like the trailer that I saw, maybe I don’t understand marketing again, but the trailer made me think it was going to be a three.
Caleb Beaver (07:27):
I wanted the trailer to be longer. I
Sevan Matossian (07:29):
Was there supposed to be some sort of contrast because they presented her in the least vulnerable way possible. She was the most made up and yet she was given it Man in the interview.
Andrew Hiller (07:41):
You know what I think it might be, dude, every time we see her, she’s in athletic attire. She’s at the CrossFit games and she’s probably not wearing very much of any makeup. The first time I ever saw, I knew this chick at the gym forever. She was a teammate of mine and she’s an attractive girl and then one day she put on jeans and put on makeup and she looked completely different. It kind of threw me for a loop and I think that may have just been what happened with Danielle. It’s like, whoa, what’s going on here? It’s just not what we’re used to seeing and we’ve seen so much of Daniel Brandon with one Look, Hey, you’re trying to be a girl. What’s going on?
Sevan Matossian (08:18):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I’ll check out for sure. For sure.
Andrew Hiller (08:22):
I think that might be a little bit of a sensation happening there. Maybe.
Sevan Matossian (08:26):
Yes. E-S-C-E-E-S-C sounds. What a cool person Daniel Brand is. The documentary was incredible. The documentary was incredible. If you didn’t know her was, I think it was an 11. If you knew her, maybe it was a 10, 10 out of 10. If you didn’t know her, I’d say it’s 11 out of 10 there. Yeah. There were some things that I feel like there’ve been a few more. There’s been a little more carnage in her life that we didn’t get to see in the more recent year. We didn’t get to see the havoc in her more recent days when the movie ended. Did we know who she’s training with now?
Caleb Beaver (09:07):
No, they didn’t say anything about the current training camp and the previous training camp. Well,
Andrew Hiller (09:13):
Do we know when it was done shooting to be fair? Because what if it was done shooting and she was hanging out with Darwin still?
Caleb Beaver (09:21):
Yeah. When did Dave say that they came down to the ranch,
Sevan Matossian (09:27):
By the way, feel free to call in anyone. She looked amazing. What shows she can pull off both the Hot Chick and Classy. Not everyone can pull that up. You think that? Look, the interview look was classy.
Caleb Beaver (09:41):
It was very pinup, girly.
Andrew Hiller (09:43):
I wasn’t a fan personally, but I don’t think I’m the best judge of character there. I thought it
Caleb Beaver (09:49):
Was cute.
Sevan Matossian (09:49):
I thought she was going to get out of one of those little tiny cars where 20 clowns get out of it.
Andrew Hiller (09:54):
So I wouldn’t say that, but there is something going on. I can’t put my finger on it.
Sevan Matossian (10:00):
Anyway, the movie is absolutely remarkable. There is a great cast of characters in it. Her friends are an amazing supporting cast. Danielle tells the story of her childhood and basically I think twice when she was at home, she was taken from her mom on two occasions, both times because I think her mom went to the state pen. You saw the places that she went to were tough. The first time that I almost started crying was when she talked about her brother being separated from her and I just imagined my boys being separated and I was just like, that’s
Andrew Hiller (10:35):
Why it got
Sevan Matossian (10:36):
You. I was like, and I really like her brother in the movie. Isn’t he cool? What sweet man. Actually,
Andrew Hiller (10:41):
At one point I was like, dude, I like this guy.
Sevan Matossian (10:45):
Do we know I didn’t like the chair? I didn’t like her outfit. I didn’t like her makeup. But you know what the crazy part is? As strong as opinions as I had about it, I forgot about it. Within three minutes I thought about it when the movie started and then I never thought about it again until the movie was over and that’s how great the movie was.
Andrew Hiller (11:08):
So you can never give anything a 10. You can’t do that. Once you give one thing a 10, everything other than that movie is worse.
Sevan Matossian (11:16):
Can we start a poll? What’s Better Roadhouse or what’s this movie called
Andrew Hiller (11:20):
DBE,
Caleb Beaver (11:21):
Daniel Brandon Energy
Sevan Matossian (11:23):
And did find, are we pretty certain about the source, the origins of DBE? Daniel Brandon Energy.
Andrew Hiller (11:34):
I have a feeling
Sevan Matossian (11:35):
You do. Are you going to release that soon? Yeah,
Andrew Hiller (11:38):
We can do it now. Okay.
(11:40):
Daniel Brandon puts up the post and they go over in the film a little bit where she’s giving the middle fingers and she puts up this post. It gets 60,000 likes and in there there’s a comment thread with 20 responses in it where they’re talking about Big Dick Energy. She’s got Big Dick Energy and everyone’s heard of that. And what is that an acronym where you switch around the letters for Big Dick Energy is DBE e Daniel Brand Energy, and Alexis wrote dbe hashtag dbe just in that comment thread. And if you go to the history of all those things, you’ll never see it being used. And then three posts after that, Danielle puts up a Danielle Brandon Energy post. So Alexis being the conspiracy theorist that she is, thinks that she came up with the
Sevan Matossian (12:26):
Name historian. Historian, not conspiracy theorist, historian.
Andrew Hiller (12:30):
I can’t disprove her. I went through every post. I’m like, I can’t see Daniel Brandon Energy anywhere. And I also went through the 800 comments and I don’t see it anywhere else.
Sevan Matossian (12:39):
What a cool thing. Alexis Kowalski,
Andrew Hiller (12:44):
She’s a nut job dude. She’s
Sevan Matossian (12:45):
Great. Gave DBE the Danielle Brandon Energy.
Andrew Hiller (12:51):
I can’t prove her wrong.
Sevan Matossian (12:56):
Oh, look it. Look it. Okay, here we go. Here we go. Both two recent movies too, so we don’t have a bias based on when they’ve watched it. They’ve all been watched in the last week. Right.
Andrew Hiller (13:09):
This is an amazing pull. I say Roadhouse.
Caleb Beaver (13:14):
You think Roadhouse was better?
Sevan Matossian (13:18):
The second time I teared up,
Caleb Beaver (13:24):
I
Sevan Matossian (13:25):
Felt the tear ducts turn on is when her mom said that in the last five years when shit gets rough, Danielle calls her.
Caleb Beaver (13:34):
Oh, I didn’t hear that part.
Andrew Hiller (13:37):
I didn’t either. That’s why I was making the face.
Sevan Matossian (13:40):
That was my favorite part of the doc was learning about the relationship of her and her mom and her and her brother. How about when her brother said, we love each other
Andrew Hiller (13:51):
Towards the back end? Yeah.
Sevan Matossian (13:54):
Was there any part of the doc where you were like, Hey, that’s not good.
Andrew Hiller (13:58):
I think there was too much Cooper Marsh.
Sevan Matossian (14:01):
Okay.
Andrew Hiller (14:03):
I thought that thought he should have had a role similar to the friends, but what do I know? I don’t think he had very much that was necessary.
Caleb Beaver (14:13):
I think he was equal with the friends and how many speaking points he had, but
Andrew Hiller (14:18):
He really
Caleb Beaver (14:19):
A lot more
Andrew Hiller (14:21):
He stretched it.
Caleb Beaver (14:22):
Yeah. He could have just said, yeah, I started working with her. She’s amazing. This is how I got to know her, blah, blah, blah. And that would’ve been it. I didn’t need to know anything else.
Andrew Hiller (14:31):
Yeah, for me, much too much. Cooper,
Sevan Matossian (14:33):
The only part of the movie that I was like, ah, that wasn’t needed is when we got the cliche line and it was like, Hey, she’s her own person. When people said that women shouldn’t be loud or muscly or outspoken, she didn’t care. I’m like,
Caleb Beaver (14:52):
I asked my wife about that. I was like, have you ever been told that that’s not a societal norm for women? Yeah. No, I’ve never been told any of that.
Sevan Matossian (15:03):
Yeah, that’s like 1950 shit. Yeah, but other than that, man, the movie went, the movie went off without a hitch. 11 minutes into it I stopped and I was like, man, I’m going to be bummed when this is over. I watched it again until the 50 minute mark.
Andrew Hiller (15:17):
You said that about the Brian Friend video though too, to be fair.
Sevan Matossian (15:20):
That is true.
Andrew Hiller (15:22):
You’re going to be bummed when it was
Sevan Matossian (15:23):
Over. Thanks for letting that out of the bag.
Andrew Hiller (15:26):
I think you’ve said it on the air.
Sevan Matossian (15:27):
Hey, thank you.
Andrew Hiller (15:29):
It’s not like I didn’t let it out of the bag. You did.
Sevan Matossian (15:31):
Oh, thank you. Hey, has anyone said anything bad about the Daniel Brandon movie?
Andrew Hiller (15:39):
I mean, with the exception being what I just said about Cooper Marsh. I don’t think so.
Sevan Matossian (15:44):
Yeah. Are you glad you watched it? I don’t even
Andrew Hiller (15:45):
Think that’s bad. It just,
Sevan Matossian (15:47):
No, I don’t think that’s bad either. Are you Bum watch? Are you glad you watched it?
Andrew Hiller (15:52):
Yeah. Oh yeah. It’s a hundred percent worth watching
Sevan Matossian (15:55):
You watch it again.
Andrew Hiller (15:56):
Hey, did you see the thing that I put up earlier today where I stole a bunch of your content and just I clipped it together?
Sevan Matossian (16:01):
Dude, I fucking, I forget how amazing I am. I am fucking amazing.
Caleb Beaver (16:12):
So
Andrew Hiller (16:12):
That was six or seven hours of podcast. I just ripped it down to 15 minutes.
Sevan Matossian (16:17):
Yeah, that was really cool. I forgot how amazing she was too. So
Andrew Hiller (16:21):
I watched, I her,
Sevan Matossian (16:23):
I text her right after I watched this. It was the 20th time. I’ve texted her without a response.
Andrew Hiller (16:29):
Did you text her today?
Sevan Matossian (16:30):
I texted her today. I tried to get her on, send her a link. Say that
Andrew Hiller (16:34):
Again. Send her a link.
Sevan Matossian (16:35):
No, she’s not responding to me anymore. I be, I don’t want to, don’t piss her off, but
Andrew Hiller (16:41):
Something. She’s already pissed.
Sevan Matossian (16:43):
No, here’s the thing. I don’t think she’s pissed. If she’s pissed, she would’ve blocked me and she’s picked on me on a few posts around the internet. Someone said recently a seon in the doc, and she said, Savon who? And the fact that she’s even saying that means that she doesn’t hate me, but like, Hey, dickhead. Here’s the thing. In that documentary she talks about, I don’t even think she’s mad at me. I think she’s just trying to prove a point. I think she has values and her values are to be loyal to her people. And at Waap Palooza we were, during that time, we were fucking with Rad or I was fucking with Rad in terms of playing the victim. And she’s like, fuck you, they’re my sponsor. That guy. I mean, obviously these people really believe in her and they’re close to her. I wouldn’t be surprised if she owns a piece of the company, right? I mean, wouldn’t that make sense? That would
Andrew Hiller (17:32):
Make a little sense. Sure.
Sevan Matossian (17:33):
Yeah. And so I have to guess that she’s like, Hey, fuck, you ain’t fucking with you. Roadhouse wasn’t close to the original, but was. Okay. Well,
Andrew Hiller (17:45):
So that’s one of the things I hear, dude, just, I haven’t seen the original and they probably made it way better.
Sevan Matossian (17:52):
You got to watch the original. The doctor
Andrew Hiller (17:54):
Is, I don’t think I want to like the new one much more and just sit on that.
Sevan Matossian (18:00):
If I knew Daniel’s
Andrew Hiller (18:01):
The original watch, the original Shut up.
Sevan Matossian (18:04):
You haven’t seen it? Is that what you’re saying?
Andrew Hiller (18:05):
No, it’s made before I was born, so I don’t watch it.
Sevan Matossian (18:08):
Oh
Andrew Hiller (18:09):
Wow. Just the other Star Wars movies. The new ones are way better. Wow.
Sevan Matossian (18:19):
If I knew Danielle’s mom, if I went to high school with her, I’d have been obsessed with her.
Andrew Hiller (18:25):
Did you see the pictures of her bodybuilding? Dude?
Sevan Matossian (18:28):
Yeah. I would’ve been, I like Danielle’s mom, the whole movie. I was like, all right, well, too bad.
Andrew Hiller (18:36):
They showed a couple pictures of her dad and I go, oh, well obviously that’s why she’s jacked. And then they showed her mom and I’m like, oh my God.
Sevan Matossian (18:44):
Her dad was stud. I loved her mom.
Andrew Hiller (18:46):
Yeah, her dad was a stud. He looked great. So did her mom. Her mom was fantastic. Dude, if her mom wasn’t in it, the movie goes, I think it was like, so it’s like a seven
Sevan Matossian (18:59):
Without her mom, there’s nothing. And
Andrew Hiller (19:01):
Without her mom, it’s like a four.
Sevan Matossian (19:03):
Yeah. Oh, you thought the movie’s a seven. You give the movie a seven.
Andrew Hiller (19:06):
Seven’s good though.
Sevan Matossian (19:07):
Oh, okay. But it’s
Andrew Hiller (19:08):
No roadhouse, but it’s still good.
Sevan Matossian (19:12):
Where are we at in the pool? Where are we at in the pool?
Andrew Hiller (19:14):
I know people don’t agree with me on that. It’s a runaway, I think. But
Sevan Matossian (19:20):
The mom was amazing contrast and tremendous insight, right? Her mom’s athletic background. I don’t want to ruin it for people who haven’t seen it, but her mom wasn’t your run of the mill athlete. Her mom was something special.
Andrew Hiller (19:35):
I just want people to be looking at the dead and be like, there’s the mom. There she is. She looks great.
Sevan Matossian (19:40):
And how about the tattoo on the mom’s neck now? The butterfly tattoo?
Andrew Hiller (19:44):
Yeah. That thing’s nuts about that too.
Sevan Matossian (19:48):
Yeah,
Andrew Hiller (19:48):
Like a bitch to get
Sevan Matossian (19:50):
Her. She would’ve been so fun to party with. I’ll watch Roadhouse 69 times before I watch the Doc. No shit. Dang. I’m telling you, the documentary is so awesome. If you have kids, you should watch the movie. And I think if you have kids and you watch the movie and you don’t and it doesn’t hit you pretty hard, maybe you should have your shit checked, maybe your psychopath.
Andrew Hiller (20:23):
Hey, I always try to ask why I don’t like things. So it is a seven in my head and I’m like, why wasn’t it a 10? And I think that I’ve had a bias towards CrossFit content and I think I would’ve liked to have seen more of that storyline. So if I had to look at it, it’s probably 20% CrossFit and four fifths, not CrossFit. And I personally would’ve liked more if it was one third, two third.
Sevan Matossian (20:49):
Oh, and I thought it was teetering just on almost too much CrossFit. Okay, so that’s good
Andrew Hiller (20:55):
For you. You
Sevan Matossian (20:56):
Think that this will transcend the CrossFit space, this movie’s like that. Why wouldn’t they go to, I dunno, why wouldn’t they go to iTunes with this first?
Andrew Hiller (21:05):
It looks like it could have been done that way, right? It was produced to the
Sevan Matossian (21:08):
Point or Netflix. Dude, it’s so fucking good. Can you play seven seconds in the beginning of that shit where she’s doing the transformers bit?
Caleb Beaver (21:18):
Yeah.
Sevan Matossian (21:20):
It’s ridiculous. It’s
Andrew Hiller (21:22):
Only a seven because it’s not Dumb and Dumber and that is a good movie, asymmetric Hears.
Caleb Beaver (21:26):
Was that made before you were born?
Andrew Hiller (21:28):
I think it was made the year I was born.
Sevan Matossian (21:31):
I think you may have to fast forward it a little bit.
Andrew Hiller (21:34):
I got to check.
Sevan Matossian (21:36):
Oh yeah, this part? Yeah, play this part. Hey, did they direct her there to take those deep breaths and all that? Damn. And her hair’s awesome. I love her makeup there too.
Caleb Beaver (21:54):
I’m pretty sure that’s the same makeup that she was wearing in the actual interviews too.
Sevan Matossian (21:58):
Oh
Andrew Hiller (21:58):
Really? Caleb?
Sevan Matossian (22:01):
All right, well fuck. Maybe it was just the lighting in the other one then
Caleb Beaver (22:05):
Probably
Andrew Hiller (22:07):
Vindicator three years after you. I like the lighting.
Sevan Matossian (22:13):
Playing to the mass is no paywalls. The People’s Champion. No, you go to iTunes for six months and that’s promotion, and then you go to YouTube.
Andrew Hiller (22:26):
I thought about that. Why wasn’t it on iTunes at first, right?
Sevan Matossian (22:32):
Or Netflix to get international attention. I mean, ideally that’s what you do. You go to Netflix and you get international attention that’s got the most international reach, and then you hope what you basically tell, you tell all your fans, Hey, watch the shit out of this. And then it pops up in the number ones documentaries, and then you get crazy. International attention. Very good dog training. Just watched it and had no idea. Danielle and I had the same childhood. I ended up thriving in sports and now pour it all into my family and the dog business. Send me a link and I’ll hop on here.
Andrew Hiller (23:01):
Okay, how do we do that?
Sevan Matossian (23:03):
No. What the fuck is wrong with you, Hiller?
Andrew Hiller (23:05):
That just seems like an interesting individual.
Sevan Matossian (23:07):
No, come on dude. No, John. I think you win. It’s been said well over 10 times.
Caleb Beaver (23:13):
I
Andrew Hiller (23:16):
Oh, Roadhouse. They’re probably playing the Roadhouse game. I just said a few more times. I don’t know. That’s a guess. I don’t know the word
Sevan Matossian (23:24):
Savon is in love. Danielle, Brandon Energy got me in. The dad feels, yeah, Jess bang her already.
Caleb Beaver (23:35):
Oh,
Andrew Hiller (23:38):
It’s got 5,100 views right now.
Sevan Matossian (23:41):
And that’s amazing. Right? That’s great. Right?
Andrew Hiller (23:44):
Yeah, it’s good. I can’t wait to see where it ends up.
Sevan Matossian (23:48):
Oh, Patrick Clark, the beginning is her unloading her baggage. Oh, sees the symbolism
Caleb Beaver (23:53):
There. Symbolism. Yeah. All right, I like that.
Sevan Matossian (23:56):
Alright. Yeah,
Andrew Hiller (23:58):
I agree with Will here too. The archive footage was amazing and it’s also cool how they kind of attributed all of it at the end, right? Did you notice that? No. They asked some from a rich froning LLC.
Sevan Matossian (24:11):
From there I went immediately to helping my kids with their RC cars. Hey, I liked all the pole vaulting footage. I liked the pictures of her when she was little. What’s kind of crazy too is I watched that and then I watched the video you made and the two kind of got blurred together.
Andrew Hiller (24:32):
I thought that right
Sevan Matossian (24:34):
Now I’m trying to remember what was said. Now I’m like, oh shit. Was that said in the interviews I did with her or in the movie?
Andrew Hiller (24:42):
About three quarters of the way into the stuff I ripped from your podcast, there was a portion where she was talking about her not trusting anybody. And in the documentary about one third into it, she talks about how much she trusts Cooper with everything, which I thought was just interesting. I don’t know. It was a good appetizer. Like I said,
Sevan Matossian (25:03):
He’s only one fuck up away from not getting his texts responded to. Also
Andrew Hiller (25:09):
From Danielle? Yeah. Or from you.
Caleb Beaver (25:12):
You think Everybody’s on my hair record with her.
Sevan Matossian (25:14):
Listen, I’m the biggest fan ever. I fucked up once I’m out.
Andrew Hiller (25:23):
How’d you mess up? Oh, you’re talking about Brad. Hey, I’m happy that they didn’t do any product promotion. It was just a straight up Daniel Brandon piece. It was cool. I
Caleb Beaver (25:33):
Think I only saw the shoes once. How
Andrew Hiller (25:35):
Much did that cost to make?
Sevan Matossian (25:41):
At least a hundred. I’d say a hundred thousand at least. I mean, I’m guessing they paid the editor 50,000 to a hundred thousand dollars. Just him. I mean, if someone told me that cost 300,000, I wouldn’t be like, no way.
Andrew Hiller (25:55):
Really.
Sevan Matossian (25:56):
Nope. I mean, someone spent a lot of time putting that shit together. Wow.
Andrew Hiller (26:00):
Yeah. Well, so you know what happened when I made the one, the Haley Adams one is I ended up watching it through probably 15 times. So that by itself is 15 hours. It was an hour long. And I could imagine that they do the same thing. Right? They got to keep on watching it through over and over again. Have other people watch it.
Sevan Matossian (26:19):
Do you think they interviewed Torres?
Andrew Hiller (26:23):
I hope
Sevan Matossian (26:24):
So. And he just didn’t make the movie.
Andrew Hiller (26:26):
Do you think they interviewed her aunt and uncle?
Sevan Matossian (26:28):
I thought about that too, but by the end I thought maybe they didn’t because she said basically when she left, she never saw them again.
Andrew Hiller (26:36):
Oh damn.
Caleb Beaver (26:39):
I imagine they probably asked her if they could interview him.
Andrew Hiller (26:43):
I wonder if they would’ve even know where to find them.
Caleb Beaver (26:46):
Probably in Twin or whatever. Tri-Cities.
Andrew Hiller (26:49):
Alright. Right. That would’ve leveled it up a little bit. That probably would’ve brought it to an eight for me.
Sevan Matossian (26:55):
How much did the behind the scenes cost? You can’t compare it to the behind the scenes because of how we make that. No one’s working there on that movie for a rate like nobody. No one’s getting paid what they deserve to get paid. But if you were to make that, that would cost you Yeah, easily a hundred thousand dollars if
Andrew Hiller (27:18):
I totally believe that.
Sevan Matossian (27:19):
Yeah. But no one’s getting paid rate. You got to fly all those people out to the games. I mean all those interviews they did, I’m assuming they flew to those people and did those interviews. And then there’s some people probably afterwards like, fuck, we got to go back and interview that person again. I thought Dave killed it. I thought Dave’s part was great. What was he in, do you think? He was in 10 minutes of the movie? That’s the best I’ve ever seen him look.
Andrew Hiller (27:46):
Yeah. How does he never age,
Sevan Matossian (27:48):
Would you say he was in the movie? 20 times, 30 seconds a pop.
Andrew Hiller (27:53):
Less 10.
Sevan Matossian (27:54):
10 times 37
Andrew Hiller (27:56):
Times. Right
Sevan Matossian (27:57):
At 30 seconds a pop
Andrew Hiller (27:59):
Without Dave in it. It also brings it down half a point for me, like six five instead of seven.
Sevan Matossian (28:04):
Really? If they would’ve had Justin Berg be the game,
Andrew Hiller (28:07):
If her mom had in there, it’s down four points. If Dave’s not in, there’s down half a point. So they were awesome.
Caleb Beaver (28:13):
I think Dave left Green to the story that Danielle told about calling him out in front of a bunch of people for stocking his ig.
Andrew Hiller (28:21):
That would’ve been a good add to the movie, right?
Caleb Beaver (28:24):
Yeah, for sure.
Andrew Hiller (28:26):
Someone in here said, this is what CrossFit has to do more of. And then I wanted to connect that with the thought that it’s a hundred to a $300,000 production and that’s why they don’t do more of it.
Sevan Matossian (28:38):
Who? The rad people or just any in general? No,
Andrew Hiller (28:40):
I trust what you said. They want to make one on, I dunno, Chandler Smith. How are you going to do that?
Sevan Matossian (28:48):
How are
Andrew Hiller (28:49):
You going to pay? How much are you going to pay ’em? You can’t. You won’t. You don’t.
Sevan Matossian (28:52):
Right. But you could make ones that are 20% as good as that for $10,000 and you can make one a month. Yeah, you can just send someone,
Andrew Hiller (29:01):
It’s called something that I could do.
Sevan Matossian (29:03):
Well, basically what you turned yours. If you had 20 more days to do yours, you could have filled yours with B roll with Haley. You could have been like, Haley, give me all these photos when you were a kid and you could have filled it with B-roll with another 20 days and told a backstory and massaged it differently. But yours, that movie we saw with Danielle Brandon, don’t get it twisted. It’s a propaganda film. They told us what to think and what we were going to see and how to process it.
Andrew Hiller (29:32):
What are we supposed to think
Sevan Matossian (29:34):
As opposed to, you’re supposed to think that this is a young lady who went through a lot of adverse conditions at a young age and overcame them. And that journey started when her aunt put her in gymnastics and that sort of became the catalyst for this hopping from sport to sport to sport that she excelled at and build upon. And then fortuitously met the good high school coach.
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