Sevan Matossian (00:00):
The baby.
Lindsey Cantu (00:01):
Hey, Avon.
Sevan Matossian (00:02):
Got a baby?
Lindsey Cantu (00:05):
I do.
Sevan Matossian (00:06):
How old’s the baby?
Lindsey Cantu (00:07):
Six and a half months. Yeah,
Sevan Matossian (00:12):
The baby’s name?
Lindsey Cantu (00:14):
This is Bera. Jade.
Sevan Matossian (00:16):
Say it again? Beard
Lindsey Cantu (00:18):
Vera. BERA.
Sevan Matossian (00:20):
Oh, Vera. Vera. Vera. Vera. Yeah. Hey, whenever I tell, I live in California, so there’s shitloads of Mexicans here, and so I’ll be at Starbucks and I’ll be like, Hey, what’s your name? And I’ll be like, ban. They’re like Esteban. And so I just did that. I heard your V is a V. All those years of Spanish in school. Vera,
Lindsey Cantu (00:39):
Vera, Jade, Cantu.
Sevan Matossian (00:41):
Oh my goodness. Vera, is that girl’s name?
Lindsey Cantu (00:46):
Yes, it was my grandma’s name.
Sevan Matossian (00:49):
Did you know you were going to name it after your grandma, the baby after your grandma?
Lindsey Cantu (00:52):
No, no. We didn’t even know if we were going to have a boy or a girl. It was a surprise all the way up until the moment.
Sevan Matossian (00:58):
Yeah. Yeah. You’re like, oh, penis, vagina. All right, girl.
Lindsey Cantu (01:02):
Yeah, but it’s funny, the only name Lance and I could agree on for a girl was Vera. Jade. And so we kept that on our list throughout the whole pregnancy. And when she was born, Lance Kotter, I was like, what’s her name? And he said, Vera, Jade.
Sevan Matossian (01:18):
Oh, that’s awesome. And were you surprised that that came out of your mouth when you said, what’s her name? Were you like, what are you doing? Asking him? You were having this out of body experie? Yeah.
Lindsey Cantu (01:27):
I didn’t even know what I was doing.
Sevan Matossian (01:30):
It’s my sister. She Louise. Well, my wife had Avi. I just remember the first thing she said. She looked at me, she goes, I did it. And when I tell her about it, she’s like, I really said that. I’m like, yeah, you looked right at me. And you’re like, I did it. I was like, yeah, you’re a badass.
Lindsey Cantu (01:46):
Yeah, I think I said Lance would have to confirm, but I think I said something like, holy shit. That was wild.
Sevan Matossian (01:56):
Where did you end up having the baby?
Lindsey Cantu (01:58):
We had Vera, or I had Vera on our back porch.
Sevan Matossian (02:03):
How did you end up outside?
Lindsey Cantu (02:08):
Whenever I visualized my birth and thought about what I wanted, I knew I wanted to be in nature or have nature in some form or fashion show up in my labor because I probably walked anywhere from two to five miles a day and then was in the sun so much during my pregnancy, and I just felt super comfortable outside. So Lance and his dad built a deck on our back porch, and that’s where we put the tub, and I think it was way into active labor that I was like, can I get in the tub now? And I just walked outside and got in the tub.
Sevan Matossian (02:50):
And you were in the tub when the baby came out?
Lindsey Cantu (02:53):
Yeah, she was born in the water.
Sevan Matossian (02:55):
Do you have neighbors?
Lindsey Cantu (02:56):
Yes. And they probably heard me
Sevan Matossian (02:59):
At one point during my wife’s first birth. She was pretty loud. And then it was the middle of the night, two or three in the morning, and the neighbors came over. German exchange students from uc, Berkeley. And the guy knocks on the door and the midwife answers, and he says, is everything okay? I thought it was really sweet that he came over. You hear all these noises and they’re like, yeah, someone’s having a baby in here. He’s like, okay,
Lindsey Cantu (03:27):
Don’t need any food.
Sevan Matossian (03:30):
And it’s crazy. Not severely, but a little bit. I felt like we were doing something
Lindsey Cantu (03:35):
Illegal, totally like,
Sevan Matossian (03:37):
Shit, we’re making meth in here. Get out.
Lindsey Cantu (03:42):
I didn’t think about it, but after the fact, Lance was like, I asked him, I was like, was I loud? Do you think the neighbors heard me? He was like, oh yeah, for sure.
Sevan Matossian (03:52):
How cool. You have this remarkable video that I watched twice with my wife last night, and it’s pinned on top of your Instagram.
Lindsey Cantu (04:07):
I’m like, which video?
Sevan Matossian (04:08):
And it really inspired a lot. Oh. Oh, sorry. Not on that one. Sorry, Caleb. It’s on the birth fit one. Yeah, and I want to play, it’s the, sorry, Caleb, I didn’t even send you my notes. It’s the second one and she’s walking and talking to the camera. Yep. There it is. Oh yeah. I want to play this. There’s so much in this that’s inspired so much about me. Let’s go ahead and play this. Here we go.
Lindsey Cantu (04:41):
So after I recovered from the wounds of liberal feminism and got clear on my values and desires, I found my king, my now husband, and we got in action in creating the life that we desired. At 40 years old, I conceived and gave birth to our precious baby girl. All natural birth was on the back porch. It was amazing, as you know, and people often ask me, do I wish I would’ve had my baby girl earlier? Yes, duh. The answer is yes.
(05:20):
And I would probably have 10 kids if I would’ve done this sooner. However, that’s not my life’s journey, and I would not know all the things that I knew and all the life lessons. I would not have those under my belt going into this birth experience. So I might have had a completely different birth experience than the pure bliss magical back porch birth that I had. So it probably took me 10 to 15 years to literally get birth fit, to literally get my head out of my booty and start to live in a way that is very intentional because we birth how we live. So after I recovered from the wounds of,
Sevan Matossian (06:12):
I told my wife, I’m like, oh my God, it’s us in, you’re in Texas, right? Yeah. I told my wife, it’s us in Texas. My wife had her first child at 39, and then the twins at 43. And we’ve had that conversation also about we would’ve 10 kids probably if we would’ve started earlier. But also obviously no regrets. We wouldn’t be the people that we are.
Lindsey Cantu (06:39):
Absolutely.
Sevan Matossian (06:40):
Where were you born?
Lindsey Cantu (06:41):
I was born in Houston, Texas,
Sevan Matossian (06:44):
And a
Lindsey Cantu (06:44):
Hospital,
Sevan Matossian (06:46):
Of course, that’s the only way to do it. And were your parents educators?
Lindsey Cantu (06:55):
So my mom was a realtor at the time, and right before that she was a chemist at Levi Strauss. My mom’s very smart. My dad’s very smart. He was in home building, but they were very standard American go with what’s being told to the middle class. And having a hospital birth is safest. And long story short, what I found out was that I was actually born, my mom went into labor early at 36 weeks. She went into the hospital and they kept her with medication trying to hold out until 37 weeks. And she just had a really traumatic birth experience with me. And I didn’t really even know that till this year. And which is wild because it makes sense now how I got into birth. Birth basically called me to do all this unlearning and then have a really profound blissful experience.
Sevan Matossian (08:02):
And were your parents Democrats, were they liberals? Did they talk about politics around the house?
Lindsey Cantu (08:07):
No. If anything, they were conservative and more so as I got older and found out that they were vote Republican. But I would say my dad grew up very Southern Baptist, which is a whole nother world. And my mom, she grew up in North Carolina working on tobacco farms. They both grew up very poor and instilled a huge work ethic into me and my brother and sister. But yeah, they were very conservative, Christian, good people.
Sevan Matossian (08:45):
So those were your roots. When did you make the turn to, I’m projecting onto you, but when did you make turn to peace and love and peace? Love, happiness, and accept everybody. And it’s okay. This thing that liberal feminism, I don’t even want to say feminism, this thing that just liberals, the shield that liberals use is peace and love for everyone. Yeah. When did you make that shift?
Lindsey Cantu (09:14):
Well, okay, so my mom and my real dad split up shortly after my brother and sister were born. My brother and sister are twins. They’re two years younger than me. And that was not great for all of us involved.
Sevan Matossian (09:32):
Both my, you mean when the parents break up, that’s not good for the kids, not great. Hold on, let me write that down. A parent splitting badge,
Lindsey Cantu (09:39):
And I’ll say I love both my parents dearly, but they did not have the communication tools, the problem solving tools to not bleed. And I say that metaphorically bleed all over us kids. So it was a bit traumatic there. And long story short, my mom moved us, me and my brother and sister to a town called New Braunfels, Texas. And it’s a German town, like German roots that’s right on the river. And there’s two rivers that run through it. So in the summer it’s like bumping with tourists and people floating the river, going to the water park called Schluter. And I would say that town, not what it is today because it’s grown drastically being an hour outside of Austin. But then it was a very peace, love, happiness town. It’s about 15 minutes away from what is now called Texas State, but in that time it was known as southwest Texas. And that was a very, it still is a very party school, like collegiate party school. And so I was exposed to a ton growing up, middle school, high school in the new Braunfels area. We snuck away to Mexico, we snuck away to Austin. It was quite fun, quite fun growing up. And I got exposed to weed, alcohol, everything at a young age.
Sevan Matossian (11:10):
Is that where people started talking to you? I’ll just say some things that are along the liberal values, how they couch things, love everyone, don’t cut down trees. Killing babies in the wound is actually medical freedom for a woman doing drugs is okay. It’s experimental. That’s where those things you were around those people. Totally.
Lindsey Cantu (11:36):
Then I went to college. I actually went to Texas a and m, which is a more, you think of it as a more conservative school, but even now the schools are getting lost in all the DEI council, the liberal far left values.
Sevan Matossian (11:56):
Sorry, can I slip another word in there? Yeah. I just realized conservatives have values. Liberals I think have justifications.
Lindsey Cantu (12:04):
Oh, that’s a good call.
Sevan Matossian (12:05):
Right? They justify being racist in order to help people. They justify killing babies in order to medical freedom. It’s just all justifications. They don’t actually have values. That’s why they’re always, you can’t ever pin them down. You know what I mean?
Lindsey Cantu (12:18):
Totally. And I think I lost sight of who I was. I didn’t have a foundation. Once my parents split up, there was no spiritual foundation. The values weren’t there. That’s Vera,
Sevan Matossian (12:32):
My Vera.
Lindsey Cantu (12:33):
And when you go off to college and you have even more freedom, you’re like, hell yeah. So that’s kind of where I would say I got lost in who I am and who I wanted to show up in this world was through high school and college for sure.
Sevan Matossian (12:51):
So after college, what did you do after that? What was your next journey?
Lindsey Cantu (12:55):
Yeah, so I had no idea what I wanted to do except that I knew I wanted to help people. And my last, one of
Sevan Matossian (13:04):
The last, and that’s the good hippie thing, I was like that too. You want to help people. Yeah. That is interesting. About the left, whether it’s sincere or not, it’s couched in a lot of that rhetoric. We want to help people. That’s another one of the shields we have to help people.
Lindsey Cantu (13:20):
As you say, their justifications definitely warmed my heart.
Sevan Matossian (13:27):
Yeah, of course. Okay.
Lindsey Cantu (13:28):
I want to help people. I took off a semester at a and m and traveled to Africa, Tanzania, Tanzania, and that’s where I was exposed to my first bit of medical corruption. And instead of going to medical school, I decided to go to chiropractic school because I realized we weren’t saving the world with pharmaceuticals. That was my first realization. So I came back and it was about 2005, 2006, and I decided to go to chiropractic school.
Sevan Matossian (14:04):
Can I interrupt you? Yeah. What was the medical corruption you saw? What was the
Lindsey Cantu (14:10):
Incident? It clicked in me. We were in Africa. We were walking miles to go to these remote villages and we had an overseeing dock, like an md, and we would do medical triage and then we would prescribe a medication. And the case that got me the case that broke my heart wide open was this mom that brought her son to me. It was probably about six years old and had lost sensation, a little bit of movement paralysis on one side of his body. And long story short, they wanted to prescribe him basically a sedative because he also had seizures. And it just hit me, what are they going to do when we’re gone, when they run out of medication, they’re going to think this voice possessed again, that he’s not healed. He got worse. And at that moment I realized I don’t have any tools.
(15:10):
I don’t know what to do for this woman, but it’s sure as heck not medication because that’s not what her culture knows. That’s not where her family knows. So I just took her outside and I was like, I don’t know what to do, but give you a hug. And we had a translator there and I was crying. She was crying. And then I found the only calling card I could on payphone and called my stepdad At the time, I was like, I don’t want to go to medical school. I can’t, it’s terrible. I’m not in alignment with it. He’s probably thinking, oh my God, you need a job, Lindsay. So he was like, that’s
Sevan Matossian (15:50):
A healthy response. I like that. I’m okay with that.
Lindsey Cantu (15:52):
He told me, you can come home and figure your life out, but you got to have a job. So I waited tables for three months until I got into chiropractic school and I saved $10,000 and finally moved to Los Angeles because that was the place I wanted to go. I wanted to see California.
Sevan Matossian (16:12):
And the premise of chiropractor is that the body can heal itself, right? That’s one of the yes,
Lindsey Cantu (16:19):
Made the body can heal the body, and we just simply remove the interference.
Sevan Matossian (16:26):
Judy Reed, is this the company Asia Bartow’s wife is a part of?
Lindsey Cantu (16:30):
Yes. Leah is our online program director for birth fit.
Sevan Matossian (16:34):
Oh, we found I have a new idea. Abortion fit, probably not my best idea. Michael Lorente. Lindsay was the heart and soul of Deuce Jim. She’s become an incredible leader and a wonderful mother. Thank you Ser. And Kelly just joined. Is she breastfeeding?
Lindsey Cantu (16:52):
Yes.
Sevan Matossian (16:55):
Okay. We’re going to get to this question, but give us a second. Eric, can Lindsay speak on the birth that leadership coach process, asking for my wife 10 years, L and D nurse, I don’t know what that is. And moving toward becoming a lactation consultant, Eric, we will get to that. Oh,
Lindsey Cantu (17:08):
Awesome.
Sevan Matossian (17:08):
Yeah, give me a second. Okay, so you end up, you want to visit Los Angeles and you kill two birds with one stone. You come to California and go to chiropractor school. Yeah,
Lindsey Cantu (17:19):
So like I said, I was lost. I got even more lost in the beginning of Los Angeles. But
Sevan Matossian (17:24):
Is that the hive of more of the liberal thinking, right? Yes, absolutely. la Okay. Absolutely.
Lindsey Cantu (17:31):
I was going out in Hollywood. I was meeting friends while at Texas a and m. I worked study hall and I would check all the athletes into study hall. And so some of these athletes became security at some of the best clubs in LA and Vegas. Vegas is only three hours from la. So I kept partying right out of high school, college and into Los Angeles. And then I would say I finally, well, I got a job I always knew, keep my grades up and get a job. Then I can somewhat look good on paper. But still, I was lost, soulfully lost. And I got a job working in the industry, as they call it, in the Hollywood industry. And that was basically,
Sevan Matossian (18:18):
You graduated from chiropractic school?
Lindsey Cantu (18:21):
Yeah, I graduated. I became a doctor of chiropractic in 2009 and then took a job traveling the world with a guy named Tom, Tom Cruise and worked Really?
Sevan Matossian (18:35):
Really?
Lindsey Cantu (18:36):
Yeah, I can say it now because it’s been over 15 years.
Sevan Matossian (18:39):
Do I know him?
Lindsey Cantu (18:40):
Some people might know him.
Sevan Matossian (18:42):
It’s that Tom Cruise.
Lindsey Cantu (18:44):
Yeah.
Sevan Matossian (18:44):
Wow.
Lindsey Cantu (18:45):
So I was working with
Sevan Matossian (18:47):
Him. Your husband could kind of be the Latin version of that guy. Now you married the Latin version of that Hispanic version. Crazy.
Lindsey Cantu (18:56):
And then I worked for a company called Sports Institute, and I got really exposed to how I did not want to be a chiropractor.
Sevan Matossian (19:04):
What did you Wait, whoa, whoa. Hold on. What did you do for Tom? You cracked his neck and shit?
Lindsey Cantu (19:09):
Yeah, adjustments, body work. I would meet with stunt directors and make sure it was safe for him, relatively safe. See what kind of building he was going to jump through, see what kind of dance moves. He was going to do sprints, depending on what was coming up in his movie.
Sevan Matossian (19:28):
Did you enjoy that? Was that fun? I
Lindsey Cantu (19:30):
Actually really enjoyed it. It was problem solving all the time. However I was on, when I was working with him at that moment, I was on one client mostly at the time.
Sevan Matossian (19:43):
And that being him,
Lindsey Cantu (19:45):
That being him, and he was a very nice guy. He would provide treatment care for a bunch of his stunt team, take care of a bunch of his stunt team, very intense. And his work ethic by far exceeds my work ethic.
Sevan Matossian (20:06):
So it is what he portrays. He does seem like an absolute savage workaholic when you hear him talking about work or you hear him being interviewed about movies. Oh, absolutely. His commitment is almost psychotic.
Lindsey Cantu (20:18):
And I think that’s what makes him great at what he does. And he wanted to train an Olympic athlete. And the company I worked with worked with at the time, we worked with Olympic athletes. And so we just implemented the recovery and prep work for him that we would the Olympic athletes. And he takes great care of his body. He’s super intentional way before all these meal plans and everything came out. He was eating very clean.
Sevan Matossian (20:54):
Lindsay, how do you get a job like that?
Lindsey Cantu (20:58):
It’s basically who you know because to be quite honest, I probably didn’t have the qualifications.
Sevan Matossian (21:06):
Yeah, you were brand new, you were green, you experimented on him, right? Yeah.
Lindsey Cantu (21:10):
And so the doc I interned with, he was actually a professional, I don’t want to say a professional, but semi-professional runner athlete for Portugal. And through the track circuit, he ended up at UCLA, ended up in Los Angeles, and he had worked his way up. And so it was just like the right time. And I interned with him and we started flip-flopping, and me, him and another guy would take turns on traveling with Tom or work in the office. And of course, by default, we came across many different celebrities and athletes due to referrals.
Sevan Matossian (21:57):
And you’re in Los Angeles, just so you know, in full transparency, that’s not a real baby. That was just a baby, a fake baby brought on for the birth fit interview as part of the ambiance to give the feeling that Lindsay actually worked with babies. So we’ve named this baby, we’ve named this baby Vera, Sarah Cox, Ms. Lindsay. I saw her weekly when I was training at Dogtown. Congrats mama. Well,
Lindsey Cantu (22:22):
Thank you. Those are the days.
Sevan Matossian (22:27):
God, it’s such a small world. That’s from Sarah Cox, that’s from another one of the show sponsors. Crazy.
Lindsey Cantu (22:32):
Awesome.
Sevan Matossian (22:33):
Crazy, crazy, crazy. Okay, so you have that job, that gig for 15 years, making sure that No,
Lindsey Cantu (22:41):
Not 15 years. It was like 15 years ago.
Sevan Matossian (22:43):
Okay. Okay. So you have that job for a bit of keeping Mr. Cruz’s together, working with him to keep his body together. And then what happens after that?
Lindsey Cantu (22:52):
Well, I realized the way I was practicing chiropractic was more body work, which is great for athletes. And it wasn’t how I wanted to practice. And towards the end of this, I was also exposed to the CrossFit world. And at the same time I started using everything I learned from the Olympic athletes, from Tom’s world, from the industry world, and using that on CrossFit athletes. And so at the time, I think it was like 2011, I was working with Hacks Pack and Lindsey Valenzuela, Sam Briggs,
Sevan Matossian (23:31):
Working with them as a chiropractor. Yeah,
Lindsey Cantu (23:34):
Ruth from New Zealand, who is awesome.
Sevan Matossian (23:39):
And the hack pack, they’re they the one, and I think her name was Lindsay too, not Lindsay Valenzuela. That was the lady who during semifinals was breastfeeding in between,
Lindsey Cantu (23:50):
Yeah, Taylor Richards, Lindsay.
Sevan Matossian (23:52):
Okay. Okay. What was her name? Taylor Richardson. Lindsay
Lindsey Cantu (23:54):
Taylor. Richards Lindsay. She’s like one hell of an athlete.
Sevan Matossian (23:58):
Were you at that event or she was breastfeeding in between Taylor? I think it was outside of Denver.
Lindsey Cantu (24:04):
No, probably not.
Sevan Matossian (24:08):
That was amazing when I saw that, that was something that’ll stick with me till the day I die. In between events, she would just, and they won in between events, she would run off and just breastfeed and then they’d call her name and she’d pluck the baby off the tit and then get back out there like that.
Lindsey Cantu (24:24):
Oh my God. When you come across these athletes, and I’ve been exposed to so many athletes being at the Chula Vista Center and through the movies and now through CrossFit, but she by far one of my favorite athletes.
Sevan Matossian (24:40):
Oh, that’s crazy. I don’t even recognize her there. Yeah,
Lindsey Cantu (24:44):
Look how big. Oh, she’s so young.
Sevan Matossian (24:48):
Really quick. I apologize. The crowd is really rude. Can we get a penis doctor on the show one day? Sure. I have questions. Sure, no problem. And we can get fire some penis questions at Lindsay. She knows a lot of stuff. By the way, if anyone’s offended by the term liberal, let me just help you with this and we’ll just couch it as this for now. Yeah. Liberals and conservatives, let’s say want the same thing. The difference is this. Liberals want it, conservatives want it for the individual. Liberals are willing to take the rights away from individuals and give them to groups.
Lindsey Cantu (25:20):
Gosh, couldn’t have said it
Sevan Matossian (25:21):
Better. So if you’re a liberal and you can’t figure out why anyone wants to be conservative, we want everything you want, but we want to give it to the individual. Whereas once you grasp that, you’ll make the switch too. I know that’s a little presumptuous, but what you want is you want to take these rights away and give them to groups under the abstraction that it’ll make things better and it won’t. You have to fight for the rights for individuals and then the groups will fall in place. Our way kills two birds with one stone. Yours actually, for every step forward, you take two steps back. Yes.
Lindsey Cantu (25:57):
Because there’s no personal responsibility in there.
Sevan Matossian (26:00):
Exactly. And so I don’t mean when I was liberal, it would bother me that people would categorize us all together or say it like that. So kind of think of it like that. We’re the same. But you have to remember, you’re willing to take rights away from individuals and give them to groups under some guide that you can socially construct things better. Whereas a true conservative really wants to keep the rights with the individual.
Lindsey Cantu (26:23):
Yeah.
Sevan Matossian (26:24):
Okay. So you get in the CrossFit space. Did you like CrossFit right away?
Lindsey Cantu (26:31):
I loved it. In my chiropractic world, people kept saying, oh, this CrossFit thing was dangerous. And I was like, well, let me see. Let me try it out. It was like, drugs, let me try it and I’ll tell you for myself. And so I tried one class and I was hooked. I was like, this is the most efficient way to train, especially as a professional, as a woman, whatever, 60 minutes in and out, you’re good. So I drank the juice, I drank the Kool-Aid right away. I took CrossFit level one, I took CrossFit level two, I went on to do strongman. I took power lifting, CrossFit football. I took whatever
Sevan Matossian (27:13):
I did. Yeah, you’re obsessed.
Lindsey Cantu (27:18):
And then at that time, my ex and I and two others, we started a park gym. It was called Functional Fitness on the Bluffs. And we would haul equipment out to the park and set up for a 7:00 AM class and a five 30 class. And then finally we found a space in Venice, California, and we opened Deuce Gym.
Sevan Matossian (27:41):
Oh shit. You’re one of the I didn’t know that.
Lindsey Cantu (27:44):
Yes.
Sevan Matossian (27:45):
Holy cow.
Lindsey Cantu (27:48):
Yeah. So we opened Deuce Gym in a garage in 900 square feet.
Sevan Matossian (27:52):
For those of you who don’t know, deuce is, I don’t know if it’s still to this day, but it was a place of kind of CrossFit folklore. Everyone knew it. It had great pictures. There was always someone who was someone there. Totally. The community looked really cool, people dressed really funky. If you saw someone working out in a leotard, a cheetah leotard, it was no big deal. It had that, it was really strong, beautiful human beings. And with a little bit of wackiness in it, it always looked like a cool place. Yeah. Okay. This a great
Lindsey Cantu (28:27):
Community. Whenever I appreciate this. Like I say, Lindsay was the heart and soul of Douch Jim. I really, really wanted to make the community everything. And I would say that chapter that I was there meant a lot to me for sure.
Sevan Matossian (28:42):
But once again, that’s also the hive. There is a group in that the vast majority of people, there were the, I hate to use these examples though, we’re the first to put up the BLM signs put on their masks and take the injection, right? I mean, that’s that community. I don’t mean deuce gym in general, but I mean,
Lindsey Cantu (29:04):
Yeah,
Sevan Matossian (29:06):
That cohort of people feels a lot of social, that’s a social pressure bubble, that whole Los Angeles area.
Lindsey Cantu (29:12):
And what’s interesting, you say that one of my best friends is still there at Deuce Living in Los Angeles. She has a few businesses there. But other than that, I lost a lot of friends initially from that deuce gym bubble, from that LA bubble. Because after two weeks of sitting at home for the scam demic, or planned demic, whatever you want to call it, I was like, okay, this is horseshit. This doesn’t make any sense to me. So I started calling it out and people didn’t like that.
Sevan Matossian (29:47):
Do you remember what the first thing that you saw was where it made you go, something’s not right. This seems weird.
Lindsey Cantu (29:53):
Well,
Sevan Matossian (29:55):
This can’t be accurate.
Lindsey Cantu (29:58):
It was just an eerie feeling.
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