JR Howell (00:00):
No one could touch me. Bring it back. So I think just wearing a tank top felt right.
Taylor Self (00:06):
Wow. Well, we’re very different. Um,
Speaker 3 (00:10):
Let me check. Uh, some for some reason we’re not live on the, oh, there we go. There we
Taylor Self (00:15):
Go. Popped it in. Well they can rewind.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Okay. Awesome. Cool. Well thanks everyone for joining us in the comments tonight. Uh, we’ll read some of them, don’t read all, but um, quick things real quick for everyone following along. Thanks for joining. If you want to go ahead, uh, self-made training program.com for Taylor’s programming. Uh, the two tracks, SMTP 60, it’s a 60 minute everyday athlete track. There’s modifications, tons of notes on intent of all the workouts, how you can modify equipment modifications. Taylor has a lot of work to put in, uh, really in depth notes there to help everyone out. And then there’s also the compete track. And so for $20 you have access to both those and you can check ’em out on a seven day free trial. So that’s at self-made training program.com. And then also go follow JR. Cross It Crash on Instagram and then also, uh, crash Crucible. Uh, his individual competition will come up in the fall and we’ll let you guys know when those registrations open up so people can get signed on and and follow that along. But let’s go ahead and kick it off. Um,
Taylor Self (01:17):
I want to kick it off with this I fucking strong arm Sev. So bad <laugh>. I was like, listen dude, you’re fucking having her on the show. And he was like, oh, okay.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Really nicely. Um, cool. Let’s get started off. We’re gonna touch on quarterfinal athletes that wanna make it to semi-finals. And so, uh, Jared, you just kinda wanna lay the stage for that.
JR Howell (01:39):
Yeah, so I think it’s really important, um, for maybe coaches out there who program people that program for themselves, people that follow a blog style program to pay attention to the tests that have been administered. And we’ve got 20, 21, 20 22, and 2023 quarterfinals all programmed by the same person. A lot of people don’t know that, but that was Bo’s first part of the season that he programmed back in 2021. We’ve got the games from last year, we’ve got semi-finals from this year. We’ve got the open from this year. So we have a little bit of everything at the end of the games. We’ll have all the parts of this season that we can kinda look at, um, in order chronologically. But I think for right now, focusing on what you need to be good at for quarterfinals to make it to semi-finals should be the way you steer your training. You shouldn’t be looking at games programming and looking at semifinals programming to try to get better to qualify for that stage. It should be where do I need to be finishing on the quarter final style workouts. And they are specific styles or specific movement combinations or specific um, um, stimuli that he obviously likes that you would be silly not to target your training around.
Taylor Self (03:02):
And that is I think first thing that comes to my mind when we’re thinking about BO’S tendencies, especially within this year’s quarterfinals last year being 2022, maybe to a slightly lesser degree, but definitely this year with the open and quarterfinals seemed to be a theme of like gymnastics density. Whereas instead of there being chunks of reps within a longer workout that are manageable, there’s one big set of high skilled gymnastic movements in a workout placed where it’s really important but the overall volume is relatively low. Like the nine, is it nine rope climbs in that workout, like nine rope climbs in a single workout? Maybe not super dense, but nine to finish incredibly dense. Um,
JR Howell (03:44):
For sure, for sure. And for the people that may not know, like what he’s referring to when he talks about density is um, uh, more so like chunk volume. You can think about it that way versus having uh, 25 rope climbs and doing two or three every two or three minutes of a long workout, having a set of nine to finish after your grip’s already blown up. Yeah. Finishing there. Um, you could think of it as like bottleneck style movements, right? This pre this past year. You’ve got the nine rope climbs there, the chest of bar and the bar muscle ups are just to create more grip fatigue for the rope climb. So for the people trying to make it, it all came down to how fast you could do those nine if will goes to test 1 21
(04:25):
Wall facing. We see, we see the same thing with the chest to wall handstand pushups. Sure there are people that struggle through the nine handstand walk links and there are some people that struggle through the 15 muscle ups, but what it came down to is how fast could you get through the 21 at the end. Yeah. Right. So I would say bottleneck style skill slash gymnastics components. Right? We see it here. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> will, if you go back to 2021 and you look there, we’ll see similar themes there. Workout one all three years, 20, 21, 20 22, 20 23, some kind of shoulder stamina test. Yep. This one had a mandatory rest. But we see keeping shoulder, we see keeping handstand pushups, 30 of them we see 30 strict. We see dumbbell hand cleans, which is just to blow up the shoulders even more with the double unders with 10 push press for three rounds.
(05:21):
Right? So a lot of shoulder stand if you go to 2022, we saw all the lunge variations with dumbbells and it had different handstand pushup variations. Right? And then we just showed you 2020 threes test one. So what do we see as an overarching theme here? Shoulder stamina, right? And specifically when you get to the end, can you finish strong? Right? Did you pace well enough? Do you still have left in the tank muscularly to finish? So we see that really, really specific trend all three years. Another one, I think you can just say overarchingly, is you have to be able to move moderate to heavy loads under fatigue. Yeah.
Taylor Self (06:00):
Out of
JR Howell (06:00):
Breath. And we can see that everywhere. But look at 20 21, 9 63 burpee box, jump over power snatch for a lot of people that load in that tide of a timeframe just really slowed people down. The second year, 10 power snatches at the end, 30 cal row, 20 burpee box, jump over 10 power snatches. It just slowed some people down at the end of the point where they couldn’t qualify those two years also had what you would call rested one rep Max’s right. Four rep max front squat. And then the other total this year the heavy test was the 2 75 cleaning jerk once again with burpee box. Jump over variation. I bet. So if I’m a coach, he has given you moderate to moderately heavy barbell with burpee box jump overs of various heights three years in a row. If you are not working that combination into your training for your athletes, it’s a big mistake.
Taylor Self (06:55):
Yeah. Or something like the ring muscle up, G H D or some sort of pull G h D variation. What I think is interesting when I look at 20 21, 20 22 and then 2023, I almost feel like 2021 hands tied maybe to a certain degree with things that Dave wanted or ideas that Dave had. 2022, Dave gets the boot and he’s kind of scrambling. So it’s pretty similar to 2021, like all the tests, you know, we did a show last year when right after quarterfinals and laid ’em out and it was crazy how similar they all were. And then this year it almost seems like he’s come out of his shell and shown a lot of his true tendencies. And the one thing, you know, the big difference I see between Dave and Boz, which we’ve talked about before, is Dave’s affinity for enduring and volume and boaz’s affinity for execution.
(07:44):
And not necessarily volume, but being able to do, you know, a lot of something in a really short time period really fast. And then beyond that, this, you know, Dave is almost obsessed with the idea of surprising people or being unique or being original. And when he had, when Stevon had him on the other day or last week, two weeks ago, they were talking about his olive oil line and, and Stevon was like, you know, how come not coffee? And he’s like, you know, everybody in the CrossFit space does coffee, but nobody’s done olive oil. And I wanna be unique and that’s true to who I am. And I think every year Dave found a way to surprise the shit out of everyone. I think Baz cares less about that. And what he cares so much more about is OG style CrossFit early.com movements. Um, things that Glassman preached on in the early years, like the l sit pressed a handstand, um, the seated legless rope climbs.
(08:39):
So it’s interesting in terms of, I almost feel like Baz is, dare I say, maybe a slightly bit more predictable. Um, but I think one tendency I saw this year that you can look back and see has carried over is within those gymnastic kind of density movements, you see that he really likes the format of a lower skill gymnastic movement at a higher volume, higher skill at a moderate volume, highest skill at the lowest volume, but within the same workout and kind of a progression of one another. Like with the pressing workout, the handstand walk is shoulder support, the ring muscle up is catching potentially in support, but another shoulder driven movement or a pressing movement and then finishing with the wall facing or with the pulling, you have the, was it chest bar, muscle up, rope climb, progression. Um, so interesting. And I’ve kind of, I adopted that format. I like it a lot. So you don’t have to do as much volume.
JR Howell (09:33):
Yeah. Yeah. And I think simply put, um, where a lot of people like we, we won’t get into affiliate programming, but I think a staple of a lot of people’s affiliate programming is, is complimentary movements. Right? You program a push with a pull, you do that a lot, right? Yep. Deadlift, handstand, pushup, yep. Clean ring dip, whatever. Like there’s super OG workouts that are like that.
Taylor Self (09:54):
What promotes intensity, what
JR Howell (09:55):
You, what you’re seeing now. And, and he’s said it many times before, there’s more to this sport than engine and there’s more to this sport than just being strong when you’re rested, right? So these, these things that it seems like he really values, I don’t care what you can lift, I care what you can lift heavy when you’re at a high heart rate. Um, I don’t care that you can do, um, 30 rope climbs in a workout. I wanna know that you can do nine in a minute at the end of the workout, you’re seeing a lot of interference in workout. So I would say like an overarching theme would be deliberate interference.
Taylor Self (10:29):
Yeah. Redundancy, press,
JR Howell (10:30):
Press, press, pull, pull, pull. Right? Um, and there’s nothing wrong with that. It is a lot different than what we’re used to where you’re seeing, okay, in this workout, all these things matter, the bike matters and, and the barbell matters. Well, yeah. And the, and the gymnastics matters with a lot of his workouts, at least to this point of the season, you can pinpoint, okay, that’s the movement. There’s the bottleneck. There it is right there. It’s that movement. It’s this movement, it’s this movement. And what I’m hoping for is that the games, it’s nothing like that. Yeah. And it really swings because I think what’s e maybe even more important than what types of things do we think are we need to be focusing on for next year, is you should always let the governing body kind of dictate that as a coach, what did Dave do in 2016 and then 2017, and we can pull that up, right? 2016, in my opinion, heavy was the most aggressive, most aggressively heavy regionals ever
Taylor Self (11:32):
With a bar, right?
JR Howell (11:33):
Had a snatch ladder that was all weightlifting. It had 4 0 5 deads, it had 2 25 overhead squats. Powerful.
Taylor Self (11:42):
This will work out,
JR Howell (11:43):
Right? So you have that and then what do you do the next year? You guys are lifting too much, man, no one’s doing enough dumbbells, <laugh>, and then you had a dumbbell regional. So look for that maybe next year, right? We’re like, oh yeah, you guys think, you know, no. Like, we’re, we’re not gonna do it that way. Actually think we’ll do that, do it this way. I, I don’t know. I I think, uh, even though Dave did that, there were still a lot of things in his programming from year to year that you could still tell were his right. People’s art is still their art. Mm-hmm. You can still kind of pick it out. So while Boz has, you run and lift a lot, right? Shuttle to overhead, um, age group qualifier shuttle run with, uh, max snatch at 2 25, um, you know, uh, four and five at semifinals, right? I mean there’s a lot of running and lifting. Yeah. Running and lifting. I think you need to be able to run and lift heavy. That doesn’t mean that you’re never gonna see that combination again, but it also doesn’t mean that you’re gonna see it every single year and every single stage.
Taylor Self (12:42):
Yeah. I still stay, you know, I, I could be proven wrong and that’s fine. I, and I, granted we don’t have a lot of, we don’t have a whole lot of material to work with in terms of Bo you know, where Bo is concerned. But I think Dave’s level of obsession with being unique and catching people off guard is, is degrees higher than Bo’s. So I, in the sense where Dave always found a way to be like, oh shit, I wasn’t expecting that. I think this year Bo’s maybe homage to that was getting everybody obsessed with the crossover and then pulling it outta semi-finals or not having it at semi-finals, which I particularly wasn’t super surprised at. I remember I was programming it a lot and I was thinking I wouldn’t be surprised at all if he just doesn’t do this or if he does triple unders, everybody’s working crossover and then he pulls a triple under. Um,
Speaker 3 (13:29):
So if you think of those like high level BOS programming, then thinking about if you’re someone that’s one 20 in North America east trying to crack semi-finals, how much are you thinking about what it’s gonna take? Right? Cause some of this is more, well you see a lot of this show up in semi-finals, we see it as you showed in quarter finals. So what are you prepping for? How are you programming for the, that athlete that’s 60 spots outta qualified right? For semis but wants to crack that.
JR Howell (13:54):
Right?
Taylor Self (13:55):
I think it depends on the athlete.
JR Howell (13:58):
So while we’re assuming that he may just flip the script, we, we still know that those athletes that haven’t qualified haven’t qualified by the test that have been given. Let’s just say they’ve done quarter finals the past three years and they’re not getting in with these styles of tests. There’s a lot of overlap there. Yeah. Well so okay, let’s just assume that the demographic’s not gonna change, still gonna be 10%. So we’re not gonna see every workout’s not gonna have 400 reps. So it’s not just gonna flip to super, super high volume of everything. And let’s just assume that someone who’s not great at high grip endurance workouts is not gonna continue to be good at that workout. Yeah. And if they happen to get a workout next year that has rope climbs without interfering movement, great. They’re gonna do, they’re gonna do really well at that.
(14:46):
But now that we have tests to go off of, then we need to be targeting those things week to week in training. Using intervals is a great way to do it. Using on the minute training is a great way to do it. Using on the minute training where you’re trying to get a ton of work done in one minute and then resting for a full minute is a great way to do it. But knowing that these combinations have come up, using those combinations in training is really gonna be the only way to get better at them. There’s a lot of movements that have good carryover, but if you always blow up rowing and toes to bar Yeah. Can you do double unders and toast to bar? Sure. Can you do dead lifts in toast to bar? Sure. But maybe it’s just the aerobic component that the rower does to you. You need to do row tote bar combinations to get better at that sometimes.
Taylor Self (15:36):
Yeah. I think specifically you, you touched on emos and interval work and I think particularly that’s a really good tool to use and pro and, and working all weaknesses, um, with any movement, but definitely gymnastics. Um, I think again, if you ha like if the handstand pushup workout kept you out or you had a really bad finish there, that’s what you look to work on because you know there’s gonna be a lot of shoulder stamina in one workout and you better be able to do a really high skill after doing a higher volume of a lower skill prior to it. Um,
JR Howell (16:07):
And with a lot of these athletes we’re we’re, we’re probably taking for granted things that are very low hanging fruit, right? So if you’ve got someone who’s, let’s just say they’re top 200, so they’re, they’re pretty close, but they’re still one of those people that it’s gonna depend on the workout type people. How’s their movement quality? We know that you gotta be good at gymnastics. We know you have to be very efficient at gymnastics. You can’t just muscle your way through tons of reps of everything. It’s more about when you get there and you’re pre fatigued, is your movement pattern sound enough to where you can execute that at a high heart rate? So backing up a little bit, let’s say you have an athlete who doesn’t have the best shoulder position, they need to work on that or chest the wall handstand pushups probably aren’t gonna get any easier for them, right?
(16:50):
But then if you have that person who does move well, it’s just they need to build the capacity there. Capacity, yeah. It kind of becomes easier as a programmer at that point. Right? So looking and seeing where’s the limitation? Is it the movement itself? Is it the movement under fatigue? Is it the movements that are interfering with that movement that are actually creating the fatigue? It’s a lot to think about as a programmer, but there are levels for sure. And I think knowing who your athlete is and being able to identify what the thing is that’s holding them back is the most important thing this time of year. Dialing in movement efficiency, spending less energy, doing a repetition rep for rep for rep is so valuable. Yeah. That’s what it kind of is coming down to in the sport who can do the same movement and spend less energy. Right. So doing that, building the movement quality, then layering in the intensity and the volume as the season goes on.
Taylor Self (17:45):
Yeah, I think working with positionally challenged athletes is the hardest thing you can do as a coach because it’s to some degree,
JR Howell (17:51):
Especially if you’re like you and you don’t have those limitations and it frustrates you
Taylor Self (17:55):
<laugh> it, it’s just, yeah, it’s challenging because no coach wants to program mobility for their athlete, um, to work a position. Um, and maybe that’s not true. It’s just challenging to, to program. Um, so ideally if you want to make semifinals, you have to move well and that just doesn’t mean getting your hip creases below the knee on a squat but means like a vertical torso in a squat or good shoulder positions. And I really like that you said that doing the movements and expending less energy, cuz that’s extremely important. Um, to extrapolate on that programming for an individual is so different than writing a general track a competitive track. Um, I think if you are within the top 300 and you’re really making a aim to crack for semifinals, you, there is not a general program out there that is going to fit you perfectly. It just does not exist. But there are general programs you can follow that give you a good base of training and that you can layer your weakness work on top of. Um, and I think that is key. I think a program that lays a good foundation, um, touching all modalities and then you having the wherewithal to program your weaknesses is extremely important. Unless you can afford an individual coach that’s actually good at what they do, then, you know, that’s always ideal.
JR Howell (19:18):
Yeah, definitely think some responsibility falls on the athlete, especially if it’s something that they’re not paying for individual design, which is far more expensive. And you should expect to just be an athlete and do what the coach says, not have to process it too much and look for things that are wrong with it. Right. Just you just do it. But I’m using something simple like the V up. Let’s just say that in that quarterfinals workout, whether they ever come back again, the V ups just hammered you. You’re generally pretty good at gh HD situps, you’re generally pretty good at toes to bar, but for some reason all that trunk extension inflection on the rower and then all the trunk flexion on the ghd, you got to the V ups and you just couldn’t do it. Well let’s say you’re, you’re, you’re following a blog program and you, you say to yourself, Hey, my toes bar pretty good. Ghd are pretty good, but I’m not bad at v up. I I’m not good at v up. Well then once a week when one of those other movements come up, substitute it with the trunk flexion movement that you do need more work on.
Taylor Self (20:15):
Yeah. Or tabba a v up three times a week. I mean people overcomplicate weakness work a lot. I, I think, I mean in terms of if you have something you really suck at that’s glaring, like do an emom of it two to three times a week and it doesn’t have to be by itself. Pair it with something you’re good at or, which is always an easy thing to do is to pair it with the machine. Um, and alternating emom or like you said, one minute on buy-in machine the rest of the minute max reps or a certain amount of reps at that movement and then a minute off for however many minutes or alternating minute one machine calories or meters minute two reps at that movement alternate back and forth. You could even do minute one machine minute two, that movement for max reps minute three rest for a certain number of rounds.
(20:58):
Um, but it, it just doesn’t need to be complicated. I think for some people just accumulating volume of good reps at the movement they suck at helps. You know, for me that has helped a lot over the years. I mean I cannot, you know, I can’t count the number of times I’d go into the gym like late at night and just practice movements on an eam. Like I, when I first started for whatever reason, I couldn’t get rhythm with chest debar pull-ups and I would just do like an eam of chest debar pull-ups three times a week. Um, and squat snatch too. Like I would squat snatch all the time and the first time I was actually like, why the fuck are you doing that? I was like, cause I suck at it.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Yeah. So maybe to wrap up this section and we can move on to the next thinking of, and it’s been mentioned in the comments, thinking of seeing some shoulder fatigue be tested over and over and over at this level, if you’re the 200th person in uh, north America east, are you skewing your position practice to get for sh like to be in a good shoulder position? Are you skewing it at that level? Taking a bet on that showing up consistently?
JR Howell (21:56):
Well, I mean the sport is overhead, right? That’s not going away. Yeah. No matter what the combination is. If you’re amazing at mono structural stuff. So if you’re great at high rep double unders, if you’re great at rowing, um, if you’re great at like box jump overs, because I would probably put like those in buri box jump overs. Sorry everyone, I would put that as more of a mono structural element at this stage in the game than the gymnastics element. You don’t need to be spending too much time on the things that you’re already good at. Like that’s a basic thing. And while it is important at like the semifinals level to be able to hit home runs and win events, you’re not there yet. So if you could be spending 20 to 30 minutes of your session working headlong into the things you suck at, you’re gonna get way better than if you continue to do the things that you’re already good at.
Taylor Self (22:46):
Yeah. You have to have awareness. I think the easiest way to do it is to look at the past three years of quarter finals that or the past however many years of open and quarter finals you’ve done, and pick out 10 of the workouts you did the absolute worst on or five or however many. Just look at your worst finishes. Not the ones that are like, okay, that’s moderate. Look at the absolute glaring worst finishes and take the movements and combinations and emom them and work on ’em two to three times a week. Um, and it doesn’t even have to be under intensity. Like start with practice and then as your body adapts to the added volume, then add intensity.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Cool. Any last thoughts there?
JR Howell (23:21):
No, that’s good. Let’s get in. Let’s get into the people that we know are perennial semifinals athletes that are now trying to crack into the games.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
Cool. Let’s start with just go over like what the, what are the differences there between the two categories that we’re talking?
JR Howell (23:34):
So all the things we’ve talked about leading up to this, they, they don’t have a hole, right? They don’t have a glaring hole because at this stage in the game for quarterfinals, you can have an okay workout or maybe a not great workout, still get in. If you’re one of those people, maybe you are a smaller athlete, maybe you are a really big athlete and you’re always gonna struggle with one type of test and getting two semifinals is harder than getting to semifinals and finishing top 20. There aren’t that many of those people, but there are some for the rest of them, they’re pretty well-rounded. There really isn’t gonna be anything that they get caught off guard by. They adapt well. But it’s more about, hey, when I get to semis and the tests change a little bit and we’re racing and it’s not online in my gym with all my favorite stuff, what do I need to do to maximize my performance from a programming standpoint, you can look at previous years, you can look at this year, which I think is a really good idea. But cur Taylor, I’m, I’m curious like when the programming came out and you thought specifically about Michelle, Emily, those athletes, what was the overarching thought that came to your mind? Was there a, oh man, that’s something I just really didn’t put in or I knew that was gonna be in there and I’m so glad that we did so much of x, y and z
Taylor Self (24:53):
I think for both of them specifically, they both have deficiencies in opposite areas and I programmed a lot of those deficiencies for both of them. Um, there was still worry and like fear of, man, this is gonna be tough. Um, but I at no point when the workouts were announced, so I was like, damn, I didn’t touch that. Or damn I didn’t do enough of that. I, I knew, I knew I had approached their training and programming the right way or the best way to this point. And I think it can be similar to that quarterfinals athlete where if you’re a semi-finals athlete, a you know, you’re training at a much higher volume if you’re expecting to qualify for the games, if you’re expecting to qualify for the games, you need to allocate the time to train four to five and leading into semi-finals maybe even six hours at times.
(25:39):
Um, it’s hard and it’s a lot of work and you also have to be very self-aware of your deficiencies. Um, but at the semifinal level, you also can’t discount how important an event win is. Um, and if you have the capacity to hit home runs, you don’t wanna lose that to go from a 30th to a 25th. That being said, it doesn’t have to be that way. You can make incremental progress in some areas and still retain insane fitness and others. And Emily’s a great example of like this whole year we worked so much on gymnastics and have not run a ton and have not snatched super heavy a ton and she goes and has the best combined score on those two workouts out of all the women fucking smashed it. But it’s just a, that’s another kind of nod to getting better at some things has the transfer of skill to retain fitness and other things. Um, if you’re a semifinals athlete and there are things that are keeping you from the games, you have to, you have to allocate time to those things and a lot of it, um,
JR Howell (26:42):
Because yeah. And it’s funny you say that’s like a good segue. Yeah. Talking about her specifically on the snatch run event, um, not spending a lot of time in it, we brushed on it before. Baz has been a big proponent of trying to encourage athletes to live in that second wave adaptation a little bit more and that people have probably been spending too much time in the third wave where you’re trying so hard to go from a 300 to a three 10 snatch that there is no carryover and trying to pursue that heavy snatch isn’t getting you any better at gymnastic skills. Whereas if you worked on your three minute l at hold, your snatch probably would stay the same or maybe because of midline stability it would even get better. Right. Something like that. So living in that second wave and clearly Emily is a good example of that, the things you’ve been working on have kept her good at the things she was already really good at and maybe even helped Yeah.
(27:30):
Get her better at them. From a strength stand standpoint specifically, cuz I think for a lot of semi-finals athletes who are making it to the games, for some people it’s gonna be the strength event. How is it tested and how can I either manage it, how can I win it? Or hey, I know I’m just kind of middle of the pack. When you saw the way that the strength test was administered, did it, like had you been programming some like, hey I want you to do a snatch ladder where there’s a 30 double under buy-in and you just go on the minute until you fail. Or like, you know, I want you to get on a biker again. I want you to uh, do a one k uh, every four minutes and I want you to do one snatch at 90% and do that for five sets. Like did you train that way of like lifting under fatigue with very, very little time to execute?
Taylor Self (28:20):
Yeah, so for both Michelle and Emily, cuz both of them are incredibly strong and I did not give either, I didn’t give Michelle any lifting that was not under fatigue. Um, from when she started with me in December to semifinals, there wasn’t a single time where she just lifted in a lifting session. Um, and that was because we had a lot of work to do in other areas. Emily had some lifting, um, on its own, but again, the massive bias was towards lifting under fatigue because a I know she’s strongest as fuck and her an increase in incremental, increase in in one RM strength is negligible to her being able to lift under fatigue, which I knew was coming. Um, and also she’s strong and we needed other things to work on. And so if I can work on her engine and her strength at the same time, good two birds, one stone.
(29:07):
Um, that being said, if I had an athlete where strength is deficiency, like they’re going to have to lift alone. Um, so it’s, it’s just different. Uh, they’re gonna have to lift alone cuz if they don’t get their raw strength up, they’re still not gonna be able to compete under fatigue. Um, but there is always a place for lifting under fatigue for sure. And I think it’s notorious to CrossFitters, they always f you know, fuck people pr in the open all the time when they just fucking smash themselves in a workout. Like it’s pretty typical when you get a good engine. Um, and the adrenaline’s racing, it’s just a, just a weird thing about CrossFit where people pr after workouts, um
JR Howell (29:40):
Right. And I think your point is, is one to come back to and really drive home if your snatch is two 50 guys, Taylor’s not saying that you should just be lifting under fatigue for a full year because Yeah, maybe you can still hit 2 45 or two 50 under fatigue. You’re still gonna be finishing bottom 10 or Yeah. At, at a semifinal Men for men, you, you don’t need to be doing that.
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