Greg Glassman CrossFit Origins #6 | Live Call In

Mattew Souza (00:00):


Sevan Matossian (00:01):

Bam, we’re live. Bam. Uh, hi. Bam. We’re live. Hey, should I go, should I do a show talking about the behind the scenes?

Mattew Souza (00:10):

Yeah, of course. Definitely.

Sevan Matossian (00:12):

Like, go on Pedro’s podcast or something.

Mattew Souza (00:15):

Sure. Pedro’s not just here.

Sevan Matossian (00:19):

I don’t know. I, I’m uncomfortable talking about it on our own show. Like, I’m like jerk, like I’m jerking myself off. I mean, I am jerking myself off

Mattew Souza (00:29):

<laugh>. Not

Sevan Matossian (00:31):

Like, um, when I was in the shower this morning, I was thinking about some of the stuff over the years that, uh, Jason Kpa told me and that Josh Bridge just told me. And I thought of also about having them on the show. Like, at one point Jason’s like, Hey dude, I just realized at one point that the media is just a part of CrossFit and that there’s no reason to fight it. You gotta lean into it. And I just kind of feel like I, I don’t, I I don’t know. I’m, I mean, I’m, I’m, I, I don’t wanna get all preachy, but there’s people, like, I’ll just use Laura as an example. Like, I don’t want her to, like, in five years from now, you know, she’s got a couple world titles under her name and she’s never got to like, lean into the media part of it. And there is a really fun part there for the, um, there’s a really fun part there if you learn to, uh, accept that. Is this really how you spell Oleum? No. No. Oh. <laugh> Oleum. I like, I like that when the U Ffc fighter do that.

Mattew Souza (01:34):

I You think she won’t embrace you out there? Like once they, I

Sevan Matossian (01:39):

Don’t know what, I don’t know what I, I’m not sure. Um, but, uh,

Mattew Souza (01:44):

I think they’ll,

Sevan Matossian (01:46):

I just, um, I, I, I, and, and, and if she doesn’t, she doesn’t, that’s fine too. You know what I mean? Maybe someone just like, fuck that. I, but even, even Fraser was kind of detested media and look at even he came full circle. It’s just this evolution no matter what, all, like, we know that every Pollywog turns into a frog.

Mattew Souza (02:05):


Sevan Matossian (02:06):

Do you know what I mean? It’s like, that’s why parent, it’s so hard watching a kid who’s 13 to 16 year old go through their shit. ’cause every kid goes through it and like, you’re like, dude, I could just tell you what’s gonna happen so you don’t have to do all this

Mattew Souza (02:17):

Shit. Right.

Sevan Matossian (02:18):

You know what I mean? Yeah.

Mattew Souza (02:19):

But they gotta go through it, you know? Yeah. Yeah. And it’s here. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (02:23):

Hey, good morning, Greg.

Greg Glassman (02:25):

Good morning, sir. Gentlemen,

Mattew Souza (02:27):

Good morning Greg. Morning

Greg Glassman (02:29):

Greg. How are you?

Mattew Souza (02:34):

Fantastic. I’m feeling good and happy to be alive. How are you?

Greg Glassman (02:40):

I’m good, man. I’m good. We’ve got a house full of friends. It’s kind of, kind of cool.

Mattew Souza (02:44):


Sevan Matossian (02:46):

Oh, happy, happy birthday.

Greg Glassman (02:49):

Oh, shit. That didn’t take long.

Mattew Souza (02:51):

Oh, wow. Birthday. You hate

Sevan Matossian (02:55):

It. I don’t blame you. I hate it too.

Greg Glassman (02:57):

You know. Can you do next Saturday? I’m

Sevan Matossian (02:59):

Like, you don’t, you hate the attention. Go ahead. I

Greg Glassman (03:01):

Hit a, I hit a date. I go, Hey dude, happy birthday. He goes, my birthday’s the 20th. I’m like, oh fuck. I thought it was the birthday was ’cause it, uh, his birthday’s between mine and my son. Blake’s my oldest kid.

Sevan Matossian (03:14):


Greg Glassman (03:14):

Was June 20 and 22, so I didn’t know what day it was.

Sevan Matossian (03:20):

So his was two days ago.

Greg Glassman (03:22):

Problem. So, here we are. Thank

Sevan Matossian (03:24):

You. Yeah. Here we’re

Mattew Souza (03:25):


Sevan Matossian (03:27):

Um, are you doing it? Do you do anything, do you do anything for your birthday or do you just uh, um, I do you do anything for it?

Greg Glassman (03:37):

You, you, buddy. We’re sitting here on Coeur d’Alene and I got, uh, I got boats and friends over, and so you can imagine what we’re doing. Right,

Sevan Matossian (03:45):

Right. Same thing you did yesterday.

Greg Glassman (03:48):

Yeah. Yeah. Same thing we’ll do every day.

Mattew Souza (03:50):


Greg Glassman (03:51):

And with some <inaudible> for the kids and homeschooling and, you know,

Sevan Matossian (03:57):

Life’s kind of weird. It like

Greg Glassman (03:58):

You drink.

Sevan Matossian (04:00):

Oh, what to say? Let’s, oh, leftist tears. <laugh>. Oh, wow. Wow.

Greg Glassman (04:04):

Leftist tears.

Sevan Matossian (04:05):


Sevan Matossian (04:06):

<laugh> wow

Greg Glassman (04:08):

Them up.

Sevan Matossian (04:09):


Sevan Matossian (04:11):

Hey, it’s, um, uh, it’s kind of funny. Uh, it, it’s like that when you get older, especially when you have kids, people are like, Hey, what do you wanna do special on your birthday? And it’s like, Hey, I’m already doing it. Like, I’m gonna hang out with my kids and homeschool them, and then I’m gonna go out on jet skis with them. It’s like

Mattew Souza (04:26):


Greg Glassman (04:28):

You know, bud, I’m 67 today and my kids wanna make me breakfast in bed. And I’m just seeing this picture on Instagram where I look like I’m in a fucking convalescent home. Right. <laugh>, boom, naked, you know? Right. I go, I tell you what, how about you make me breakfast at, at the fucking table, at the boat or something. <laugh>.

Sevan Matossian (04:52):

Uh, Philip Kelly. Happy birthday, Greg for some birthday tacos.

Greg Glassman (04:58):


Sevan Matossian (04:58):

You. He knows you. Will you do tacos today?

Greg Glassman (05:03):

Uh, yeah. In fact, catered.

Sevan Matossian (05:06):

Oh, serious.

Greg Glassman (05:07):

From our favorite taco truck. Yeah. Honest to god, PLA place makes this great. Que of <inaudible>. So,

Sevan Matossian (05:15):

Uh, will the truck come down your windy road? Uh, all the way around the lake to your side? Oh, Greg’s had a bad connection today, right? Yeah.

Mattew Souza (05:25):

That’s usual for him.

Greg Glassman (05:27):


Sevan Matossian (05:28):

His picture’s clear. He froze for me. Did he freeze for you guys? Yep. Okay. Greg, you’re frozen. Just so you know. We can’t see her here.

Mattew Souza (05:37):

Oh, fixing it.

Sevan Matossian (05:39):

The magic

Greg Glassman (05:41):

Teleported to the Oh.

Sevan Matossian (05:43):

Oh. Thank you. Look at Audrey jet skis. Cause concussion. Come on. Come on, come on.

Sevan Matossian (05:51):


Mattew Souza (05:52):

Sounds like odd gets all squirrely on

Sevan Matossian (05:54):

Hers. Hey, I’ll ask Greg that. He’ll, he’ll know about jet ski safety too.

Greg Glassman (05:59):

One split second. I gotta

Sevan Matossian (06:01):

Grab. Take your time. Take your time. I, I was invited. I was invited. You’ve settled down there. You’ve settled down. I wasn’t invited to his birthday, but I’m always invited to the, the Glassman, um, estate. Yeah, you watch yourself here. I’ll play this for you guys while we wait here. What are you playing? Oh, the, this, um, I’ll play this for you while we wait. Here we go. Enjoy. Enjoy this While we wait for, uh, Greg to get his wire situated.

Speaker 5 (06:32):

Older lady gets on the elevator with me and all of a sudden she clutches her purse. It made me feel some type of way. And then it made the whole situation uncomfortable because I’m pulling, she’s pulling, just let go of the purse. <laugh> a white

Sevan Matossian (07:04):

Misdirection humor. Isn’t it great. Amazing. Oh, there you’re back. Uh, uh, taco truck doesn’t have issues coming down your windy road. It’s just like, it’s all good. It comes around the back there. It’s

Greg Glassman (07:15):

The driveway’s got a switchback in it, but I dunno, it’s, you know what I’m guessing is that it won’t be the actual truck that we’re buying tacos from, but they’ll load all the crap up and, uh, trays with a foil, right? Yeah. Aluminum trays with foil and show up and put it out. That’d be my guess.

Sevan Matossian (07:33):

Is it a good day there today, Sonny? Good, good. Lake Day.

Greg Glassman (07:37):

A little warm. It’s in the high nineties and I don’t need that, but

Sevan Matossian (07:41):


Greg Glassman (07:42):

Spoiled. I’m, yeah, if it gets any hotter, we’re gonna come to Santa Cruz.

Sevan Matossian (07:46):

Oh my goodness. Hey, um, Greg, I, I was thinking about this this morning. When did you know that? Um, so, so basically I’ll, I’ll, I’ll bring it up to speed. So basically you, you were at one gym. What gym was the gym that you got kicked out of before you opened your own location? Um, at a research circle or whatever that was called.

Greg Glassman (08:12):

It was, uh, it was called Spa Fitness Center. Now I think it has a different name in Capitola, just south of the tracks there on 41st. And

Sevan Matossian (08:22):

Then, and then you,

Greg Glassman (08:23):

A couple that ran it. Were pioneers in the industry. I mean, I have, I have, I have a lot of respect for it. We went through a rough patch there where they tried to sink my submarine, but, um, uh, Harry Jenkins went to Santa Cruz High and he built a commercial gym in the second floor of a, a Barney rented from someone and had a cave in an epic cave in that made headlines with multiple injuries. And it was kind of a serious deal. And then that was, he was 17 when he did that. And so when I’m at his gym, he’s, what, 75 or some damn thing. And, and, uh, and uh, uh, Anna Jenkins was one of Jackal Lane’s girls, you know, the girls in the tights. He had a couple of those and a couple of German shepherds, white German shepherds. She, she was of that era.


And we clicked and then we didn’t, but that was, that was the, the last stop for me when Harry called me in one day and he had a graph he had made of his, uh, training program, revenue from the training program. And what had happened was that they were taking a third of my, uh, of my get, and I was charging 75 bucks an hour. So I was hitting 50 and they were charging, uh, for the other trainers were charging 40. And Anna had told us that no one will ever pay that much for training. And I told her I thought it was a value. If you look at what you’re selling for 40, I think my 75 is a discount. And, uh,

Sevan Matossian (09:52):

Ouch. They didn’t like that <laugh>. No, they,

Greg Glassman (09:54):

They thought it was funny. And we’re they, you know, they liked it until he came up with his graph and showed me that Almond Morales and I were sinking their ship and, uh, taking some of their best clients. You know, the, we were getting five day a week people that had been five day a week for five years with other trainers paying 40, and now they’re paying 75. And, uh, that, that created some tension. But he says, you know, you gotta go. He even had a tear in his eye. I mean, I understood. And he says, I’m, I’ll put you up somewhere. I’ve seen how you work. You don’t use a lot of gear and you don’t need a lot of room. And we could get something in Los Gatos. I’ll help you out. I’ll set you up.

Sevan Matossian (10:32):

Oh, shit. He tried to send you over the hill out of town. Yeah,

Greg Glassman (10:35):

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I, I love the idea that I’ve been thinking along those lines, but I was thinking like across the street, <laugh>. And so I had to beg for two more weeks, just, you know, let me take, say goodbye to everyone. And when I went over it was Claudio Franza who, the Juujitsu guy who says, come over my gym.

Sevan Matossian (10:55):

Was he a client?

Greg Glassman (10:56):

Uh, yep, yep. Yeah, I’d already been working with Garth and bj and even at Spa Fitness Center, I was bringing in some people and they weren’t enjoying that so much.

Sevan Matossian (11:08):

The owners of that place didn’t like you bringing BJ Penn in there that Yeah.

Greg Glassman (11:12):

Not in particular, but my, this m m a kind of clientele.

Sevan Matossian (11:17):

Mm-hmm. <affirmative>.

Greg Glassman (11:18):

And it’s interesting ’cause as a demographic, they’re mild mannered kind of cool guys. You know, it’s a, they don’t have nearly the machismo and bravado of, say, tennis players for what reason No one can explain.

Sevan Matossian (11:33):

And, and then, so then you go over to, um, Claudio Franco’s, and, and that’s gotta be tough, right? I mean, you’re, you’re just a Yeah,

Greg Glassman (11:40):

It’s, it’s franza and, uh, no, it wasn’t tough. It was delightful from the very beginning and every, all but one client came with me and, uh, she was my handful train wreck client. And so, like, you’re right. You know, you who wants to work out on Juujitsu match? I mean, I put a medal through the wall at Claudio’s right there at the Dojo. You know,

Sevan Matossian (12:06):

You, you took me there. The space there was tiny. I can’t even believe you ran a gym there. Yeah,

Greg Glassman (12:12):


Sevan Matossian (12:14):

And then,

Greg Glassman (12:15):

And we, I moved with him when he moved again. And then there was a period of about a year where I got tangled up with Barry Sears. He was dragging me around talking to people in gyms.

Sevan Matossian (12:27):

How did you meet Barry?

Greg Glassman (12:28):

Um, it was, uh, people that knew, uh, Pablo Morales knew me, knew Barry and said, I should hear this, what this, uh, what this guy, uh, writing meal plans for swimmers for Olympic swimmers is doing. And it was prior to the Zone book coming out. And they, he said that they said that he could, uh, put on first principles of 40, 30, 30, uh, diet, 40%, uh, carbohydrate, 30% protein, 30% fat, and, uh, tied, uh, uh, thermodynamically tied energy wise to, uh, uh, what, three quarters of a gram of protein per pound of, uh, lean body mass, I think it was. And I had in tweaking Gold’s Gym Nutrition analysis program, uh, found someone to override the software. And I had, uh, taken their 75% carbohydrate diet, 80% carbohydrate diet, and hammered it down to 50%. Um, the people at Golds knew I was doing it, uh, told me that, uh, they would deny any kind of responsibility or knowledge if it ever was found out. I mean, it was weird. It was like I was selling crack in the gym to <laugh> <inaudible>. And, uh,

Sevan Matossian (13:53):

That’s the part that I don’t think people get how serious it is. Gold’s had a protocol of 75% carbohydrates. You run into Barry Sears, you lower the carbohydrate intake on some of this computer software. That was like, you were a bad, I already,

Greg Glassman (14:10):

I already had, uh, someone took, it was Vicki Sims, I believe, at, uh, Gold’s Gym and Venice that told me to go get a copy of a Atkins book. And I did. And I’m like, wow, if this is, if this guy’s not full of shit, we should be able to reduce someone’s carbohydrate load and see a physiological difference of some significance. I’ll start with myself three days of, of no carbs. And I’m like seeing trails. I mean, it’s like the weirdest experience I’ve had. I’ve had my reality altered and I have no interest in any more chicken, bacon, butter, or anything else. Now my calories have plummeted in 72 hours that day. You can eat, you’re like, you’re bored with food. That’s all you got. It’s protein and fat

Sevan Matossian (15:02):

And, and, um, that, that’s, that, that was like really outlaw shit back then. Like

Greg Glassman (15:09):

The things that man was called, what he endured, the, the heaped on him, the, uh, from the community of cardiologists, they, they back, they backtracked at the end, at the end. He was, he was profoundly and importantly ahead of his time, a hero

Sevan Matossian (15:32):

Barry Sears,

Greg Glassman (15:33):

Like a Florence of deaths in your hospital. You know, how about we clean this place

Sevan Matossian (15:42):

And, um, you’re so, you’re, you’re hanging with him and, uh, and going around the, are you going around the country with him?

Greg Glassman (15:50):

Yeah, we went everywhere.

Sevan Matossian (15:52):

And you do that for a year? Um, is it just the two of you?

Greg Glassman (15:56):

No, there were other people. Some kind of cool, cool folks I met, uh, met some, some good people in fact, and the Eids, uh, Michael and Mary Dan Eids, who to this day are even closer friends than Barry and I ever were. Um, there was, there was considerable interaction with them between all of them before I met any of them had spoken with Bob Atkins. I mean, the people that knew the truth about carbohydrate and it’s toxicity, um, all knew each other maybe in the sense of new, of each other’s work, but in many cases had been talking. But it was a small community. It was a minority. It did disproportionately well in, uh, in, uh, book sales. And my father’s truth rearing its head through the, through the, uh, through industry. But I can take the

Sevan Matossian (16:59):

Books on the shelf,

Greg Glassman (17:00):

High carbon fat, the Covert Bailey approach and the Atkins approach. And the sales were a hundred to one in the direction of the car restriction, even though it was a minority position, charted,

Sevan Matossian (17:20):

God, we’re only getting like half this, Greg. ’cause your connection’s still so fucked up. Yeah, that was some good shit too. That, that is interesting. How would you explain that? The, the book sale thing, if it’s the minority position, why are the book so high on it?

Greg Glassman (17:39):

I I read covert Bailey’s book and, and, and eat nothing but pasta. And I don’t come back with exciting things to tell my friends.

Sevan Matossian (17:50):

Mm. <laugh>

Greg Glassman (17:52):

I do, I do what Atkins says and do, God, my, I can’t even believe it, but guess what? My psoriasis went away. That’s not even in the book. Right? That was when the e pair with me. They love that People would go, Hey, I didn’t even mention it to you. And and Mike would go, what? The spot on your elbow? It’s gone. Huh? You noticed? Yeah, I did, but I didn’t want to tell you that your psoriasis would go away if you reduced your carbohydrate intake.

Sevan Matossian (18:19):

God crazy. A and the whole who’s running the gym back in Santa Cruz at that time is Alman Morales, uh, holding up? No, no,

Greg Glassman (18:27):

No, no. I, I’m, I’m kind of in between. I, uh, you know, from, well, yeah. Um, you know, Lauren’s in there, almond’s there, and we had other help kind of quickly. Eva was coming around.

Sevan Matossian (18:50):

Eva, uh, uh, what was her last name? Tor todo. She, that’s the, that was the Olympian.

Greg Glassman (18:56):


Sevan Matossian (18:59):

And then, and then, and then he, and then he boots you too. I

Greg Glassman (19:02):

Made, I made regular and quick coaches of clients. So when we were doing seminars, traveling around the world, um, and we got to that point quickly, and I still was running a gym commercially. Uh, I had people that had been in the, you know, 5:00 AM 6:00 AM class for five years. Five days a week. More than capable of unlocking the doors and telling everyone what to do more than capable. Tara Googly glioma comes to mind. I mean, the first time she trained anyone, it was 15 people. And it was like, she’d been doing it for five years. She’d been watching for five years, is what it was. It was a quick study. It was easy. Hey, to open your eyes, look around, care and say something. It’s not that hard.

Sevan Matossian (19:48):

Look around care and say something.

Greg Glassman (19:52):

Yeah. I remember we, when we dissected years ago and talking about training people, this difference between Perspicuity and Perspicacity, and, uh, I don’t want to belabor that or even stretch my head and try and remember what was so delightful about that. But we found early that there were people that you could ask what the salient features. And I actually discovered this at one of our own training seminars with one of one of my own staff. And, uh, I asked him, so what are the, you know, what, what’s the, what’s the essence of, of a cling? And you gimme four or five points. And I’m watching his client and the client’s not meeting that req that criteria and he’s not seeing it. And it was, it was an, it was an interesting thing, an interesting divide to get to the point where you’re, you see readily the thing that you can test for. You know, it’s, it’s the difference between, um, uh, me showing you a leaf and you say Sweet gum and driving down the road at 40 miles an hour pointing out the sweet gums. It’s a real world example from last week here. By the way,

Sevan Matossian (21:10):

<laugh>, uh, perspicuity is when you, uh, something is easy to understand in pers capacity, is the ability to observe it and understand it. Is that the, was that the distinction?

Greg Glassman (21:24):

Yeah, I think that’s the sense in which we were looking at it and it’s, and it’s,

Sevan Matossian (21:27):

Yeah, perspicacity is your insight into something when you see it or experience it. Perspicuity is, is is about the object itself that you’re looking at. How easy is it to understand it?

Greg Glassman (21:39):


Sevan Matossian (21:42):

And, and then you got kicked out of, uh, you got kicked out of Claudio’s joint.

Greg Glassman (21:48):

Uh, yep. Yep. He says that, uh, <laugh>. Yep. And the problem was he says that people come by to see the juujitsu and they see us out on the sidewalk and they drive off. Hmm. That they think they’re gonna have to do that crazy shit just for those <laugh>.

Sevan Matossian (22:06):

Um, is, is, is that where you met? Um, uh, my kids, uh, went to Garth Taylor Juujitsu, and he had this story about how he couldn’t win the, he would go down to Brazil and he couldn’t win the World championship. And then he met you and he started doing CrossFit and he went down there and won, uh, three World Championships. The first, I think the worst first white guy to do that, uh, in Brazil in the heavyweight category. Did did you meet him at Claudio’s or before then

Greg Glassman (22:31):

Or after that? No, I, it, it was the jujitsu people were coming over that were working with Claudio in that little place on Soquel, the first Claudio’s first spot.

Sevan Matossian (22:39):

Uhhuh <affirmative>.

Greg Glassman (22:41):

And so I watched Claudio’s, uh, business grow from a tiny little place to a pretty good sized gym, pretty good sized Dojo. And Garth was known to me at Spa Fitness Center at the time, and he was another one of those characters like Mike Weaver, Weaver, like Eva t um, you know, like we would, we’d have guys running hard on a treadmill, turned off throwing sweat all over the windows and everybody

Sevan Matossian (23:12):


Greg Glassman (23:15):

And I’m like, he’s getting ready for the, for, you know, for

Sevan Matossian (23:18):

The So you were doing the Air Runner before there was the Air Runner? Oh

Greg Glassman (23:21):

Yeah. We were, we were, we were using the treadmills, like plows forever.

Sevan Matossian (23:26):

<laugh>. Wow.

Greg Glassman (23:29):


Sevan Matossian (23:35):

And, and, and so he said the

Greg Glassman (23:36):

Internet. Yeah, I thought I did.

Sevan Matossian (23:38):

You’d normally do. It’s probably just the, uh, a, a bald eagle or something sat on the line, <laugh>

Greg Glassman (23:47):

Be, Hey,

Sevan Matossian (23:48):

How, how many bald eagles have you seen since been up there? Hey, we have, we have a baby bald

Greg Glassman (23:51):

Eagle here.

Sevan Matossian (23:53):

You have what? We have

Greg Glassman (23:54):

A baby bald eagle here. And he’s just showed up. He’s been walking around on in the trees. He is everywhere.

Sevan Matossian (24:00):

Oh, you sent me a picture of him. You sent me a picture of when he’s standing in the road looking at you. Yeah,

Greg Glassman (24:06):

Yeah. And here’s how it works. He wakes up one morning and mom and dad are gone. There’s no learning to fly, there’s no help. There’s no, just like they disappear on his ass. <laugh>. And the neighbor said he’ll live there in that nest as his whole life. He’ll never go anywhere.

Sevan Matossian (24:25):

Oh, they leaving the house.

Greg Glassman (24:27):

Yeah. They just left him the house. It’s his nest. Bye. He has no idea. He waits and waits. He squawked for three days, then he fell out of the nest, then he walked around for a day, then he did some flying.

Sevan Matossian (24:38):

Yeah, he looks formidable already.

Greg Glassman (24:41):

It did. It gives you a look. That makes you back up.

Sevan Matossian (24:45):

Yeah. Um, uh, so he kicks you. Um, so, so he basically says you’re driving customers away,

Greg Glassman (24:56):

Dr. And, you know, I can’t,

Sevan Matossian (24:58):

Was there truth to that?

Greg Glassman (24:59):

It sure could have been because look, I’m running like, I mean, one of the first fight gone bad things we show, if you look at the people in, in the, in the fight gone bad. I’ve got crazy Bob Cook, I’ve got, uh, BJ Penn. Um, every, everyone in the in the pictures is well known nationally or internationally in the fight scene. And them competing out in a parking lot would slow down traffic on, on Portolo. Right. And I can imagine the kind of client I’m looking for in Jiu-Jitsu, and it was the very person they know, they had trouble attracting, which was executives got. Right. A guy that doesn’t want to get strong armed, you know, for his, for his backpack, but has a job. And, uh, it’s all possible. It’s all, it’s all likely.

Sevan Matossian (25:53):

Um, when, when you, when you left there, when he asked you to leave, is there drama?

Greg Glassman (25:59):

None. Like

Sevan Matossian (26:00):


Greg Glassman (26:01):

What am I gonna do? He’s like 175 pound world champion. Jiu-jitsu. His ass

Sevan Matossian (26:06):

<laugh>. No, definitely not that. What

Greg Glassman (26:07):

Am I left with? You’re Goodbye. Sorry. I love you. He’s crying. Just like Harry. Same thing. Tears and everything.

Sevan Matossian (26:14):

You have to go buddy

Greg Glassman (26:16):

<laugh>. Yep.

Sevan Matossian (26:19):

And then this is the next place you move into Is that BJ Penn? Who is that?

Greg Glassman (26:24):

That is

Sevan Matossian (26:24):

Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Wow. He’s got hair.

Greg Glassman (26:29):

He was such a joy to work with, to eat lunch with. I mean, it is hard to describe anything other than what sounds like a friend, but he, he is a friend, but, uh, everyone finds him enjoyable.

Sevan Matossian (26:45):

Um, so, um, at this are when I, how about you? Are you scared? I mean, you’re, you’re a trainer. It’s gotta be tough making ends meet. Um, Santa Cruz isn’t cheap to live in. Each time there’s these transitions. Are you panic on a personal level? Are you scared?

Greg Glassman (27:01):

Not really.

Sevan Matossian (27:03):

No. Because

Greg Glassman (27:03):

Remember I was charging, I was charging 75 bucks an hour and giving away a third of it. Now I’m charging 75 at Claudio’s. And I don’t, I don’t think I was paying him anything or it was insignificant.

Sevan Matossian (27:17):

Uh, Eaton, Eaton Beaver says, good morning, Greg.

Greg Glassman (27:20):

Good morning, sir.

Sevan Matossian (27:23):

Morning sir. Um, uh, rb, BJ Penn has faced the who’s who of M m A. Yeah, that’s for sure.

Greg Glassman (27:31):

Yeah. He’s a hall of famer, I would think.

Sevan Matossian (27:34):

I think he was the first two time champ. I think he, yeah, he’s for sure a hall of famer.

Greg Glassman (27:39):

You guard for time, time se Have you ever had Garth on?

Sevan Matossian (27:43):

I had him on the CrossFit podcast when I was working for you, but not, I don’t think I’ve had him on this show.

Greg Glassman (27:48):

Garth needs to tell the story of the dude that attacked BJ Penn twice in one night

Sevan Matossian (27:55):

At, at a bar or something

Greg Glassman (27:57):

Out drinking on a Pacific Avenue in Santa Cruz. They got in a shoving match on the stairwells, and, and the boys, Garth included, saved this kid’s life. And then an hour later he came Buffalo charging from a hundred yards away and everyone just watched. And it was like some U f C street shit. It was crazy, was the story. I wasn’t there. So that’s not my story to tell. But the, the beauty of the story is that there was follow up with the guy like years later and he was really excited to know that that was BJ Penn that had done that to him. ’cause he thought guy,

Sevan Matossian (28:32):


Greg Glassman (28:35):

<laugh>. Yeah. He got, he got stomped, he got the ground impound. I mean, it was like, you need a big John McCarthy there or something. <laugh>.

Sevan Matossian (28:45):

Hey, that’s the difference between boys and girls. Boys are kind of proud. If you get your ass beat on the street and you find out it’s some famous fighter,

Greg Glassman (28:53):

You’d sure rather like, I get it. I didn’t, I didn’t need that. Explained to me.

Sevan Matossian (28:57):

Right. I get it too.

Greg Glassman (29:00):

And it add adds also an element of stupidity to what you did.

Sevan Matossian (29:05):

Right? Well, you never had a chance. You never had a chance.

Greg Glassman (29:11):

You don’t know who’s out there. And, you know, this is part of the advantages of being a good person.

Sevan Matossian (29:16):

Hey, Santa Cruz is a dangerous place to, Santa Cruz is a dangerous place to pick a fight.

Greg Glassman (29:23):

It’s thick with, uh, black belts and Brazilian jiu-jitsu. Hey, there was a period in the lineup at, uh, at uh, uh, at steamers, at the lighthouse.

Sevan Matossian (29:33):


Greg Glassman (29:34):

Where, uh, once a week some surfer would get rendered unconscious and drug ashore and beached, whoever did it, would go back out and catch waves again.

Sevan Matossian (29:45):

Uh, for those of you who don’t know, uh, Greg, when Greg refers to steamers, I’ll show you what he’s talking about. Uh, this is the, um, one of the big surf spots here in Santa Cruz.

Caleb Beaver (29:56):


Sevan Matossian (29:58):

Yeah, Greg, when I, I.

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