Sevan Matossian (00:02):
Bam, we’re live.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Someone just sent me this morning, woman versus escalator. Come on, let us you. I dunno what the story is though behind me. Chi Giant woman against Escalator. Oh man.
Sevan Matossian (01:08):
What Instagram account is this? Glorious sport, man, she was close. I wonder what the comments, what’s the, what do the comments say? Maybe they’ll educate us on what’s going on here? Oh, there are no comments three days ago. No comments. Shit. How many followers is this? 73,000 followers and no comments. That’s weird. Good morning. Ooh, that’s nice. Wow.
Greg Glassman (01:48):
That works, huh?
Sevan Matossian (01:49):
Yeah. Holy
Greg Glassman (01:51):
Cow. Look at that. Nice screen pull dog, man. Wow.
Sevan Matossian (01:54):
That’s a great connection. What camera is that? That’s just the camera on your computer.
Greg Glassman (01:58):
Yeah, it’s on my slim whatever the fuck. The light one, the air airport.
Sevan Matossian (02:04):
Wow. Yeah. That’s incredible. Look at gorgeous green screen. Yeah, it does look like a green screen. It’s so perfect.
Greg Glassman (02:19):
Chevy, one of your callers last week said that the camera on this, on the air
Sevan Matossian (02:25):
Was better
Greg Glassman (02:25):
Than any kind of external add-on cameras or something to that effect.
Sevan Matossian (02:29):
I mean, it’s crazy. It looks surreal and the lighting’s wild
Greg Glassman (02:37):
And it’s neat because it’s such a makeshift, I mean, I’ve got this I storage box full of books and articles and shit. I drag around and it just plopped the laptop on it to escape the zoo inside. It’s kind of cool.
Sevan Matossian (02:54):
Greg looks like a Mexican drug. Lord.
Greg Glassman (02:57):
Yes.
Sevan Matossian (03:03):
That’s Butterfly Beach behind you.
Greg Glassman (03:05):
No, it’s a moonlight. You can get me whacked. I have to leave in an hour now.
Sevan Matossian (03:16):
Which way is the Biltmore? I’m trying to get my bearings there.
Greg Glassman (03:21):
No, no, no, no, no, no, no. We’re in San Diego.
Sevan Matossian (03:25):
Oh, that’s right. That’s right, that’s right. I was just tripping. I’m like, what? Where? Okay. That’s right. That’s right. God, you just cruised up the coast in a boat a couple months ago. Now you’re cruising down the coast in a car.
Greg Glassman (03:42):
Yeah. Yep.
Sevan Matossian (03:44):
Yeah, that’s
Greg Glassman (03:44):
Off. It’s almost safe to get back to Scottsdale.
Sevan Matossian (03:48):
Oh, the weather?
Greg Glassman (03:49):
Yeah.
Sevan Matossian (03:52):
I don’t know. I don’t know if you can see this. I don’t know what the context of this is, but someone sent me this clip. It’s pretty cool. It’s a lady versus escalator and I don’t know what the context is, but I don’t know if you can see it, but it’s a pretty big escalator and she’s trying to go up it, they call it, what do they call it? Glorious, some account called glorious sports, but she gets so close and she goes on all four and then fails, but I like it just for the piece of humanity. Everyone’s cheering, you know what I mean? Instead of someone yelling at her that she’s doing the wrong thing, here she is, this woman warring versus an escalator. The challenges of man,
Greg Glassman (04:38):
When you come across crazy people, one of the best things you can do is cheerful, make your own protection.
Sevan Matossian (04:45):
Oh, right, right, right.
Greg Glassman (04:48):
Outstanding. That’s outstanding. Approve.
Sevan Matossian (04:52):
Hey, did you ever see that video of, this is off subject, but the video of the Asian lady and the child. I don’t know where it was, and they’re going up the escalator and when they step off the escalator, the escalator opens and the lady throws her kid, she throws her kid over the escalator hole and then she falls to her death and gets ground up in the escalator. It’s an old video. It’s like when the internet first started,
Greg Glassman (05:18):
It was a mall security shot kind of thing.
Sevan Matossian (05:20):
Yeah, that was crazy. Well, we’re getting close. Ire getting close. You think people are doing more and more outrageous. I saw this clip this morning. That’s just absolutely insane. Do you think people are doing more and more outrageous shit as we get closer, like saying more? I’m going to show you this clip more and more outrageous shit, just desperation. Look at this. This is at some Kamala Rally. This is some sitcom actor. Oh, did you see Eminem presented Obama yesterday?
Greg Glassman (05:55):
Yeah.
Sevan Matossian (06:00):
Look at this. This is some guy from some show, some TV show, and he’s just losing his shit up there on stage.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
Bradley Whitford from the, we put on white performance.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
What’s up? 65,000 rape victims. He was laughing. He was laughing. OG is at the reptilian brainstem of white Christian nationalism. Holy shit.
Sevan Matossian (06:42):
Women hating is at the reptilian brainstem of people who love country and God. Wow. I think people actually believe that shit. They not only believe that shit, but they believe that
Greg Glassman (07:18):
You don’t have to believe it. You have to be able to perform it.
Sevan Matossian (07:25):
What do you mean
Greg Glassman (07:27):
What? Well, it’s an act, but not in the traditional sense that we use that more in the sense of affectation, and he’s an actor and he’s playing the part that he thinks when people are that way, they’re really cool and so he’s going to be cool about, and it never really leaves the reptilian brain and gets to a place where there’s any kind of fucking deep evaluation of facts. This position is one that is taken because you like the way you look, saying, being, doing inciting. It’s thinking of Howard Stern the other day. He knows exactly who he wants to like him. He’s just not sure how to reach them. He’s exploring the differentiation that frankly he would like to have more Hollywood and less truck drivers.
Sevan Matossian (08:35):
And it’s interesting you say that. He has always, he’s always thought of himself as an outsider and kind of been desperate to be an indoor dog. He’s one of those people that thinks the grass is greener on the other side. He was with the cool kids and
Greg Glassman (08:52):
When Jerry Seinfeld told him he wasn’t a comedian, he says, you’re funny, but you’re not comedian. And it was one of the longest, most uncomfortable, I truly, I felt bad for Howard, but mostly because, wow. Jerry had a good point. Jerry’s one of the smartest guests Howard’s ever had on. I had no idea how fucking smart he was and
Sevan Matossian (09:15):
Tie that back. That shattered his image. He wanted to be accepted as one of the cool kid big Hollywood comedian types.
Greg Glassman (09:22):
And the schlock jock thing is like, that was always a criticism. It’s not what he was looking for. He wanted numbers and he’d do anything. He’d do anything for the numbers, and then once he had the numbers, he wasn’t really happy with the people that were there, not that he, it’s kind of like some of the people screaming for Trump.
Sevan Matossian (09:55):
I want to tie it to this. When I first started this podcast, there were people who wanted to come on the podcast. It was the biggest thing in the space, but they also wanted to be in bed with hq. They wanted to work at HQ and they wanted to work on the games team at hq, and I tried to, without being explicit, I tried to subtly explain to ’em, Hey, you already are with the cool kids inside the fence. Being an indoor dog is not cool. It’s not cool. And they couldn’t come to terms with it, and they tried to straddle both sides and they ended up burning both bridges, the HQ and the people that I roll with. But there’s this confusion. Howard was with the cool kids, but he thinks, but he’s so bad, wants to be accepted by who he thinks is the cool kids for his own image. But when he gets there, if he ever gets there or if he is already there, he is going to realize they’re not cool kids at all. There’s nothing there. There’s only a restriction of freedom inside. It kind of reminds me of the plantation too. It kind of reminds me of the Democrats who be, you think you want to be with the cool kids and taken care of by the government, but you’re actually free away from it outside of it.
(11:01):
I wonder what happens. This is a little bit of a pivot, but I wonder what happens if Trump gets elected and he only does media. That’s not like pool kid media. If we even see, I mean, we’ve already seen a massive paradigm shift. Do you know he’s going on Rogan on Friday? Trump?
Greg Glassman (11:17):
No, but that doesn’t surprise me.
Sevan Matossian (11:20):
I mean, Rogan’s been very, I’m paraphrasing, but over the years, he was a Bernie Sanders supporter, and then he got red pilled and he started flipping, and then basically he was saying, I got the impression he didn’t want to support Trump because he thought it would not support Trump. He didn’t want to have Trump on because people would construe it as support. It remind me one time I had a flat earth on, and a friend of ours who you and I both know very wealthy friends, said, why would you give someone like that a voice? And I was like, wow, I never thought of it. I mean, I don’t think of it like that. I just think of it as exploration and just to hear people. You know what I mean? But those are the same kind of people who never make eye contact with a homeless person on the street too. You know what I mean? You know who I had on yesterday? I had Jay Bachar on yesterday.
Greg Glassman (12:11):
How was that?
Sevan Matossian (12:12):
It was fucking amazing. He was so good.
Greg Glassman (12:15):
He’s great.
Sevan Matossian (12:16):
Yeah, he was so good. The comments all, I got all sorts of text messages. Please have more of Greg’s friends on Greg’s friends are the best guests.
Greg Glassman (12:30):
He’s got a story for the ages.
Sevan Matossian (12:34):
Yeah, totally.
Greg Glassman (12:38):
He’s published on the effects of loneliness in Elderlys. No, we didn’t. And his mom got isolated from him from Covid and passed away. I think that’s his story. I think I have that right.
Sevan Matossian (12:53):
Jay’s mom.
Greg Glassman (12:54):
Yeah. They weren’t able to see her.
Sevan Matossian (12:59):
Or are you thinking of the guy whose dad died?
Greg Glassman (13:03):
I know some of those too,
Sevan Matossian (13:05):
Including who’s the friend of yours, who’s the Indian guy, but he’s from the UK and he was pro-vaccine until it killed his dad.
Greg Glassman (13:18):
Oh, Asim,
Sevan Matossian (13:20):
Asim Ara. Yeah,
(13:22):
I, man, you know what I presented to Jay. If what happened to Jay would’ve happened to him 50 years ago, his life would’ve been over. But basically because of the internet and the way how fast news cycles go and how fast we’re processing information, he went from Hero to zero to back to Hero again, and I asked him, I said, Hey, there’s rumblings that you’re going to be head of the CDC. Would you take the position? And he basically said, Hey, I’ve been preparing and studying on things I’d like to do if I do become head of the CDC. He also said he wants to come to the party in January. I said, oh, I’m sure you’ll get an invite to the inaugural BSI seminar.
Greg Glassman (14:14):
Yeah, he’s an amazing person.
Sevan Matossian (14:18):
He said that the events at your house are his favorite things to do. Yeah, he was great. He’s so sober. He said he started weightlifting too.
Greg Glassman (14:28):
Oh, is that something? It might be a bad influence.
Sevan Matossian (14:32):
You brought up Howard Stern. I’m going to show you this clip. This is going to be no surprise to you. This is from 2008
Speaker 4 (14:40):
Flying to change your mind. It’s absolutely fine. But he did in 2008, vow never to support Democrats anymore because the FCC is communists. I
Speaker 5 (14:50):
Voted and I voted Democrat. I have vowed I will never vote for a Democrat again. I don’t give a fuck. I don’t care if God becomes a Democrat. I said, I backed Hillary Clinton. I backed Al Gore. I backed John Kerry. The fact that these Democrats on the FCC are communists if for communism,
Speaker 4 (15:09):
So what he’s saying there, he wouldn’t have voted for God as a Democrat. Kamala Harris is above God in his book,
Sevan Matossian (15:19):
And he hated it because they were infringing on his free speech. Right. FCC was riding them and now here we are. He never had values. He never had values. It was all about him. You know what I mean?
Greg Glassman (15:40):
He was a classic clown kind of guy that wanted to be popular, and he became very popular. And then, this is my take. I’m somewhat a participant. Then he decided that he wanted to be loved by a different demographic. The Bronx cheers, and the guys from Long Island and there’s, he wanted something more West Coast, more Hollywood and the nature of the people he interviewed changed, and who and the seriousness with which he took it and it required a new outlook on life. And this is just him surfing popularity and pursuing a demographic. He knows who he wants to think he’s really cool badly. He wishes he were invited to everything that Kim gets invited to and Beyonce gets invited to. He wants to be on that list.
Sevan Matossian (16:55):
Kim Kardashian.
Greg Glassman (16:56):
Yeah, and you’re not going to be on that list. There’s no one coming to those events that has a grownup worldview. Those aren’t serious people. Yeah. It’s probably not fair of Kim to some extent, but it’s certainly true of Howard. He’s, his whole life wanted to be a clown. Guess what he is now? He’s a 70-year-old fucking clown.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
It.
Greg Glassman (17:34):
I was just reading what a wreck Pacino’s life is.
Sevan Matossian (17:38):
Why? What happened to him
Greg Glassman (17:39):
Just broke.
Sevan Matossian (17:42):
Financially broke.
Greg Glassman (17:43):
Yeah.
Sevan Matossian (17:44):
No shit.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Yeah.
Sevan Matossian (17:51):
What happened to his money? Did the article say
Greg Glassman (17:55):
He had an accountant? I think that he claims ripped him off.
Sevan Matossian (17:59):
Holy shit.
Greg Glassman (18:01):
And lots of friends around.
Sevan Matossian (18:06):
You sent me an article that sent me down a rabbit hole of a Picasso painting that sold last year for 139 million. Did you see that? It was one of the links in the, you sent me an article talking about sort of the disruption in the health insurance industry and in there they were talking about some other financial things that had happened in a Picasso painting sold for 139 million last year, which is wild. Yeah. Hey, in those articles, the irony is that the insurance company, the people who are taking the biggest hit from this sort of restructure of the insurance company, the inability to pay for everyone’s Medicare and Medicaid, they were saying that 500 or 600,000 seniors in Vermont have been kicked off their medical plans. And the irony is those are all liberals I saw yesterday that Vermont’s the most liberal state in the union.
Greg Glassman (19:05):
Isn’t that interesting?
Sevan Matossian (19:06):
Yeah. I didn’t realize it until recently. We’ve been looking at a lot of voting poll maps. That whole northeast is crazy liberal. All those states from Maine down to New York, they all vote blue. What’s Greg’s take on the concept two strength rg. Oh, have you seen that?
Speaker 2 (19:32):
No.
Sevan Matossian (19:34):
I don’t know if you want to see it. Concept two
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Berg.
Sevan Matossian (19:43):
Yeah. Let me see if I can find this thing. Here it is. It’s basically a push pull. It’s some sort of push pull machine. Did I lose you? Oh, I think you froze. I think Greg froze. Are you back?
Greg Glassman (20:11):
I look good to me.
Sevan Matossian (20:12):
Okay, good. Maybe it was my internet. Here we go. Can you see this machine?
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Yeah.
Sevan Matossian (20:23):
It’s some sort of resistance machine that you can do resistance from 90 pounds to a hundred or 1500 pounds. I guess it was five years in the making.
Greg Glassman (20:42):
Well, whatever that means. The things I’m doing now, were 68 years in the making.
Sevan Matossian (20:54):
Right? Last minute. Oh, Barry Cocker. It’s a geriatric machine. I know that’s, that’s kind of how I saw it too. Jeff Baker. They just need Suzanne Summers or Chuck Norris training on it.
Greg Glassman (21:13):
I was just thinking it looks like some improvement. You know something. Let me tell a quick story here,
Sevan Matossian (21:22):
Please.
Greg Glassman (21:23):
More than an aside. This is my answer to that. Lady asked me at an event once, and it was a bunch of exercise science types, and I realized later there was probably just someone’s grandma that they brought, but she wanted to know what I thought of the health writer. Do you know that thing?
Sevan Matossian (21:44):
The buff guy?
Greg Glassman (21:46):
No. He sat on this thing and pull it up, the health riot.
Sevan Matossian (21:50):
Okay.
Greg Glassman (21:52):
It was all the rage.
Sevan Matossian (21:56):
Oh shit. It’s like a seesaw.
Greg Glassman (22:00):
Yeah. Kind of deal. But those were everywhere, like the Nordic track and just one of those waves, right?
Sevan Matossian (22:09):
Yeah. I ended up on TV and they said it sold out. Lemme see.
Greg Glassman (22:15):
You can still buy ’em.
Sevan Matossian (22:17):
Oh yeah. Oh, here’s one on Amazon.
Greg Glassman (22:22):
Oh shit.
Sevan Matossian (22:23):
It looks like something a kid would ride. You sit on it and you pull that thing.
Greg Glassman (22:28):
Yeah, and the seed goes up and down. You’re the one. So at 929 fucking dollars. And it’s the original.
Sevan Matossian (22:37):
Yeah, that one’s
Greg Glassman (22:38):
You. So I told the lady I thought it was dumb, and she just kind of went on. I told you, go into one of these CrossFit chip, we got you here. And she came up afterwards. She had tears in rising, and she said she lost 75 pounds on it. I go, whoa, whoa, whoa. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Let me just start with this. I’m an asshole. And that’s the best thing ever. I’ve just seen so many of those with clothes hanging on. Right?
Speaker 5 (23:05):
Yeah.
Greg Glassman (23:07):
But she lost 75 pounds doing that shit, watching her soaps. God bless her. It’s pretty much off the couch.
Speaker 5 (23:17):
Yeah. Yeah.
Greg Glassman (23:18):
So I made a commitment to myself then that every exercise is better than none and I’m not going to, especially the Drer gaggers of friends. And I think the concept two rowers a great thing, and I get the need and the desire to be into other skews, and I never saw them around the weights either. So maybe that’s their entree to resistance train
Sevan Matossian (23:47):
And I don’t know anyone who’s used one yet. Oh, shiz calls this. It’s called the Poon hammer, not the health writer, the writer. That should be my nickname.
Greg Glassman (24:04):
Hey, my new gym where I have resources and interest to create the nicest gym ever created. There’s just not a role for machine,
Sevan Matossian (24:24):
Any machine at all. Is there any machine you like? I’m trying to think. Do you like a cable row machine or a lap pull down machine?
Greg Glassman (24:31):
Or if I, no, but if that’s all you got or you can’t boycott your junior high school PE program, I don’t know what to tell you. It’s far from fucking ideal.
Sevan Matossian (24:50):
What about
Greg Glassman (24:51):
In the old days at the middle school, there was a weight room that had a universal machine in it and outside we had ropes and pull-up bars, and there wasn’t an adequate understanding as to what could be done with the ropes and the pull-up bars. I’ll have enough rings in the new gym to be able to run the perimeter of it from ring to ring to ring
Sevan Matossian (25:23):
Like Tarzan.
Greg Glassman (25:24):
Yeah.
Sevan Matossian (25:30):
Rogue has some universal looking machines now that are like squat racks, but also they look like they have everything on them. They have all the stuff you could do for CrossFit, but then they have all the pooley too. I just have always enjoyed pulleys. I haven’t used one in forever, but I always liked sitting on the ground and doing that row movement, that row exercise and the stack goes up and down and I always like pulling the lat down. I always thought that those were fun. I liked that thing with the two ropes that hang down and you did the tricep extension. Yeah.
Greg Glassman (26:11):
Yeah. Bring it all back. Go right back to where we started. Today’s back in buys, then tomorrow’s cardio, and then the following day I’m going to do chest shoulder tries
Sevan Matossian (26:23):
Or I don’t know, just
Greg Glassman (26:24):
Then there’s leg day. That’s the day where you actually use your legs.
Sevan Matossian (26:35):
You could work them into some sort of workout. You could work them into some sort of
Greg Glassman (26:39):
Course you can.
Sevan Matossian (26:40):
Yeah.
Greg Glassman (26:41):
And the health writer has its place in the better than nothing. Lineup the problem with that. Pick any one of those things you mentioned. It’s like ask yourself what could you be doing instead? And the whole list of things like, yeah, fuck. I think you’re right.
Sevan Matossian (27:04):
Right?
Greg Glassman (27:05):
But then again, if you want to compare it to nothing, it’s fucking great.
Sevan Matossian (27:09):
Right? What about it’s
Greg Glassman (27:13):
Probably closer to ideal than it is nothing. But the gap between that and that and what can be done is enormous. Here’s what fucked me up, my buddy Joe deadlift squat bench, that’s all you need. He’d go through any machine, put the pin in the bottom and you could one leg or one arm
Speaker 5 (27:33):
The whole,
Greg Glassman (27:33):
And then, so I’m, I’m like, yeah, dude, what the fuck your fucking monster? So I put 2 25 on a bar and he could strip curl it, and then it hit me in a blinding flash. None of what he does even involves arm flexion. That bicep is from the fucking static pole of the deadlift. The bicep plays an integral role in your arm from not coming apart at 700, 750 pound debts. Interesting, right?
Sevan Matossian (28:09):
Yeah. Very.
Greg Glassman (28:10):
Some of our strongest contractions are stabilizing contractions where you don’t
Sevan Matossian (28:14):
Get
Greg Glassman (28:16):
The shortening. You might when you’re moving a lever, big lever, particularly around the midsection in the core, back and front, the most important work the muscles of the back and stomach do is it’s just cinching down the spine. So there’s no movement preserve the S. If you can’t do that, you can’t explode the way you need to. In that last explosive part of the clean
Sevan Matossian (28:45):
Cody baker, I feel like there’s more bicep tears happening in deadlift than in curling.
Greg Glassman (28:53):
I understand. Why try to curl 700 pounds and see what happens. You can do the negative.
Sevan Matossian (29:03):
Hey, what about rose bent over Rose? Are you okay with those? You know where you put your knee on the Yeah.
Greg Glassman (29:09):
If I had to bring anything into play, if I had to move outside of what I considered the ideal retina of exercises, if I were to do something, and I did this I think in 2019, but one arm rose, and I’m talking about the bench one where the one arm’s supporting and you turn so that there’s a significant turn to the torso and then pull straight up and look and roll back as far as you can. So it’s got that windup of a punch or trying to pull someone back onto a rock ledge.
Sevan Matossian (29:58):
Yeah.
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