Greg Glassman #21 | Live Call In

Sevan Matossian (00:01):

Bam. We’re live. Amber, what’s up? Of course, you’re first great Glassman’s opinion on Rich Frons view of CF HQ from Born Primitive podcast. I didn’t see that yet, did he? Is that worth watching? What did he say? Omar? What’s up Mrs. Burns? What’s up Ernie Gaza? What’s up? Not taxidermy deer. What’s up, Paulina? Hey, paper Street Coffee. If you missed Monday at Paper Street Coffee, I’m so sorry if you didn’t. Dang, you killed it. You absolutely killed it. Oh, can you send me the IG link? Someone sent me a video of a gym in Columbia where an armed robber comes in with a gun, holds a lady in the middle of her workout. Crazy, crazy, crazy, crazy. They ripped the video. Athena. What’s up girl? Hey, that’s so trippy. Last night, I was just wondering where your next Scaled Nation seminar was going to be. I didn’t know if you were going directly to England or where you guys were going next.


Okay, what’s up dude? For those of you who don’t know, oh, hey, Whitney Davis just finished 72 hour fast. Crazy. Hey, it’s amazing. Did you guys see the video with Dana White talking about the fast? He did. He did a 24 hour fast with some electrolytes and then he did two days of just bone broth. Oh, at Proven Awesome shit. What’s the date on that? Where would I go? Scaled Nation to see it. Congrats. What a great location is it in their new gym? What a beautiful gym. Scaled Nation. Proven, and are there seats still available? Scaled Nation? Here we go. Here we go. Where do I go? We are now a CrossFit preferred provider. I think that means you get continued education. Attend a seminar. Here we go. Where’s the dates? Am I close? I’m not even close. I didn’t click the right button. This beautiful website, son of a look. Miranda. Oh, there’s your mom. That’s not even a mom joke. Go to the event calendar,


Find events and register. There we go. Upcoming events. Oh, March 30th. No, that’s in Missoula. April, January, March, April. Working with large Hamilton. Montana is the next one all the way in March. Oh, I’m screwing this up. Oh, wait, upcoming? Yeah, look at, I don’t see it. Oh, gym Accelerator Summit. Nashville, Tennessee. Is that, no, that’s April. I don’t see proven. Oops. There you go. Anyway, there it is. Doesn’t matter. This is still cool. Missoula looks like it’d be a cool place to do it at a bitter root. CrossFit. March 30th. Bam. You got a nice website. What was I doing, man? You should see me try to work the tv. What a mess. What? A MS Oh, look, Riley, and it’s a picture of Greg’s seed, his bushy seed. It’s time to start wearing the sweatbands again. Dang. It’s golden. Oh no, I can’t see you. I can’t see you. Oh, maybe I sent you the wrong link. I can’t see you. Did I send you the wrong link, Greg? Hold on. Invite copy. Shit. Maybe I sent Greg the wrong link. I was wondering where he was. How about here? How about this one? Too cold for sweat. I’m wearing long Johns underneath my pants. Yeah, I’m wearing long Johns too cold for sweat bands. Maybe Sweatpants Gray, please. I’m wearing blue Vitos Killer’s pants. If you’re ever invited on the podcast the day before you come on, you get a notice. Susan sends you a little text. Hey, did I send you the wrong link?

Greg Glassman (05:13):

I don’t

Sevan Matossian (05:14):

Know. Oh, probably it happens. One guest gets the wrong link.

Greg Glassman (05:20):

Okay, I got in, but you weren’t there.

Sevan Matossian (05:22):

Oh yeah, I’ve been here for, I’ve been here for six minutes. I’m sure I sent you the wrong link. I dunno why I do that sometimes. Hi,

Greg Glassman (05:31):

Good morning. Hey,

Sevan Matossian (05:32):

Dude, I was tripping just now in the shower. We’ve been crazy consistent.

Greg Glassman (05:38):

Yeah, good

Sevan Matossian (05:39):


Greg Glassman (05:40):

I was thinking of that too. Coming out of the shower. I don’t know why, but

Sevan Matossian (05:43):

Sailboats islands, hotel rooms with some great connections, different houses, different rooms,

Greg Glassman (05:54):

Back in the sunshine with cool weather, which is just wonderful.

Sevan Matossian (05:59):

Is that your office or is that the classroom?

Greg Glassman (06:03):

It’s my office.

Sevan Matossian (06:03):

Office. Okay. Good to see you.

Greg Glassman (06:07):

Good to see you, man.

Sevan Matossian (06:09):

I saw you every day for four days and then I basically, I haven’t talked to you talked. I’ve said hi to you on the phone for two seconds, but I haven’t talked to you in a week.

Greg Glassman (06:20):

Yeah, it’s hard with all the kids around.

Sevan Matossian (06:22):

I was trying to remember. Well, and your transition, right? Your reentry, checking your underwear drawer, making sure the pool doesn’t have a dead possum in it. Shit like that. Right? When you show up to the house again,

Greg Glassman (06:37):

I tell you what, we were all kind of hit with the jet lag coming back on this last trip

Sevan Matossian (06:45):

I had called you,

Greg Glassman (06:47):

Go ahead. We were 12 hours away time-wise, clockwise and so on the re-entry, you settled on something in between, which means you going to bed at 6:00 PM and waking up at midnight raring to go. Just exactly wrong.

Sevan Matossian (07:06):

People are standing to turn up your mic. How’s that? I turned up his mic. Tell me if that’s better.

Greg Glassman (07:10):

Is that better?

Sevan Matossian (07:12):

Let me know, guys. Hey, did you ever crack the code on jet lag? Are you like, Hey, so this is how you do it. You eat a peanut butter and jelly sandwich, you follow the sun and you make sure you try to get back on schedule? Or is it like, fuck you, because the way I eventually did it is I just ignored it and I would just get up and go to bed whenever I felt like it and eventually it would just settle in.

Greg Glassman (07:35):

Yeah, we would keep a pretty gnarly pace, right? Hit the ground running. I mean, there wasn’t a lot of downtime and that made a difference in staying awake on the flight. I mean, I’ve traveled internationally with you where we’re the only people including the stewardesses that haven’t fallen asleep,


So I think that helped, but I’ve never gone somewhere and stayed for weeks at a time, so I think you were just kind of running on one big adrenaline rush of the trip starts here, ends here, here’s what we’re going to do, and it becomes mission-driven and you don’t notice probably coming back home, but recreational travel that has you on the other side of the world for a month at a time. It’s a trip coming back. For instance, the return from Zurich with the family, we took off in the afternoon and it never got dark and we landed the following day at afternoon calendar wise clockwise, right? So it was 13 hours of flying in the afternoon and the were, of course, everyone up at 1:00 AM ready for what next,

Sevan Matossian (09:04):

And you nailed it. Mission-driven. You go on a trip, you get somewhere. You only have a week on the ground in Italy. You’re not going to fuck around. If the sun’s out, you’re going to be out. You come home and you don’t got a fucking job and you don’t have any toddlers, which you do. You just take your sweet time getting back into the groove of things. But if you have kids, you come back, you got a three-year-old and a five-year-old, I guess you don’t really get to, you don’t

Greg Glassman (09:30):

Get, dude, we took ’em with us,

Sevan Matossian (09:32):

But even when you come back, when you get back on the time schedule, you don’t get to fool around. Whatever. If they’re up, you’re up.

Greg Glassman (09:40):

Yeah. It’s amazing. You’re taking a three-year-old to see the oldest extinct Catholic church that sits on the grounds of a Roman emperor. Right. And your three-year-old’s like, fuck this, just unabashedly. It’s cool.

Sevan Matossian (10:06):

Give me some crayons. I’ll fix this thing.

Greg Glassman (10:09):

No, they don’t. Don’t care at all.

Sevan Matossian (10:12):

I’ll draw right on this thing, this artifact yesterday I called you, I was in the middle of your Cindy because I was trying to remember Salum Ma Ruthie’s name, and it’s weird. He was such a great cool guy. Also a thief, but just a great cool guy, but also a thief, but a great guy but a thief. You know what I mean? You think that those two, do you agree with that assessment of him? Can you be a thief and a great guy? I think you can,

Greg Glassman (10:46):


Sevan Matossian (10:48):

Especially in the context of where he lived in his situation. What

Greg Glassman (10:52):

Jeff Kane would always, invariably with assurance, you’d hear him say That’s what it is to be human right. It was always the line for dichotomies and expectation of behavior. Yeah. We knew a great guy that turned out to be a murderer.

Sevan Matossian (11:16):

Do I know him?

Greg Glassman (11:18):

Yeah. The dude that killed his wife.

Sevan Matossian (11:25):

Was he in the military?

Greg Glassman (11:26):

Floyd’s buddy? We were there when he

Sevan Matossian (11:32):

Killed. Oh, that’s right. Oh, that’s right.

Greg Glassman (11:34):

Ray Keels profiled his ass in at lunch. He was showing us FaceTiming with a friend at San Quentin.

Sevan Matossian (11:45):

Did he kill his wife or he killed himself or both?

Greg Glassman (11:48):

Yeah, both.

Sevan Matossian (11:49):

Both. Not George Floyd, not Pink Floyd, Floyd Mayweather.

Greg Glassman (11:58):

Yeah. Remember that? Remember hanging with that guy and Miranda did too.

Sevan Matossian (12:07):

Greg walked into, we walked into the bar and at the Four Seasons in Beverly Hill and you befriended George Floyd’s best friend from elementary school who ran George Floyd’s the money team business. Right. That’s the guy, right? Big giant dude.

Greg Glassman (12:23):

Yeah. Yeah. He was like in childhood. He was Floyd’s bodyguard.

Sevan Matossian (12:33):

God, I forgot all about that guy. And then you got him hooked up training at a CrossFit gym in Los Angeles and his personal trainer was Miranda Alrez. Miranda Roy at the time.

Greg Glassman (12:44):

This is all true, and he had everyone rapping, but most of all laughing with an upbeat personality,

Sevan Matossian (12:54):

And then what happened? He called George Floyd. He called Floyd Mayweather was, do you remember he shot his, I remember you had a great theory that basically he found out Floyd was fucking his.

Greg Glassman (13:08):


Sevan Matossian (13:10):


Greg Glassman (13:12):


Sevan Matossian (13:14):

Floyd Mayweather. Was that your wife telling you to keep it down?

Greg Glassman (13:17):

No, saying Mayweather. Mayweather.

Sevan Matossian (13:20):

Oh, she’s yelling from the other room.

Greg Glassman (13:23):


Sevan Matossian (13:28):

Oh my goodness. Do you remember going to that gym?

Greg Glassman (13:32):

You’re the one telling the story and getting all the details wrong.

Sevan Matossian (13:36):

That’s normal.

Greg Glassman (13:39):

Okay. Anyone? My theory of my ass, I’m not standing by that. It was a horrible tragedy that made no sense. It was nothing I could ever make sense of. Look, he called the guy up and the murder suicide went down anyways, and Homely takes himself to the Lakers game to deal with it, right?

Sevan Matossian (14:08):

Floyd does.

Greg Glassman (14:11):


Sevan Matossian (14:15):

Seeing if I can pull up the, get the guy’s name

Greg Glassman (14:23):

Anyways. Was he a great guy? I thought so, but what does that mean? He was delightfully entertaining.

Sevan Matossian (14:37):

Oh, Earl Hayes, that was the guy’s name. I just pull up this article where 50 cent also had a similar theory, 50 cent accused Floyd Mayweather of Oh, I got all my Floyd’s mixed up accused Mayweather of causing his friend suicide. Damn.

Greg Glassman (15:07):

The whole thing was just super sad to a guy that, again, the subject was can you be a great guy? I mean, what is it that it’s to be human?

Sevan Matossian (15:17):


Greg Glassman (15:20):

He just didn’t seem half cocked in any way, shape or form,

Sevan Matossian (15:26):

Although he was so nice. Sometimes when people are so nice, I think that maybe it’s like to hide something. Yeah. Crazy that this guy’s gone. I was looking at this picture of him. It’s weird. I wonder how people remembered stuff before pictures because soon as I see his face, all these memories come racing back. Yeah. Anyway, go ahead.

Greg Glassman (16:02):

He came right over to the table and we hung out with him a few times. In fact, he followed us into Kiehl’s where he, man, we got to see firsthand some bad treatment of someone because of their skin color.

Sevan Matossian (16:17):

That’s right. That was crazy, right? What did they say to him? Was that a Japanese lady who did it too? It was like a Japanese lady. Right? I

Greg Glassman (16:25):

Dunno. I dunno.

Sevan Matossian (16:26):

Those Asians are crazy racists. Not white people tell that story. That’s a crazy story. I forgot about that.

Greg Glassman (16:37):

You’re doing a fine job.

Sevan Matossian (16:40):

I was outside when that happened. Yeah, I forgot about that. He handled it good though, right?

Greg Glassman (16:48):

Yeah. Yeah. It was sad. I thought I was embarrassed. Hey. It was pretty much the end of my relationship with those people.

Sevan Matossian (17:01):

I remember that. I think you walked out, you didn’t even buy your shit there. I think you had a whole counter full of shit and they treated him like shit and you’re like, fuck you, and you left. I was outside dying when I heard the story.

Greg Glassman (17:20):

The only thing we saw that was interesting is that he’s FaceTiming guys at San Quentin who aren’t supposed to have phones right from inside the joint. That was kind of a trip

Sevan Matossian (17:32):

And did you talk to them? I forgot about that.

Greg Glassman (17:35):

We were sitting there at the Ivy, we’re just trashing brands of all sorts here today. We went the Ivy and he was showing us, we’re like, whoa, dude. Hey, hi. Say hi to Marvin. He’s doing 20, remember that

Sevan Matossian (17:52):

And he’s got a phone. Yeah. Now that you tell me all these things are fucking popping back into my head. Did you like the Ivy?

Greg Glassman (18:01):

Yeah. Yeah,

Sevan Matossian (18:02):

Me too. What a cool,

Greg Glassman (18:05):

Easy walk from the hotel.

Sevan Matossian (18:09):

What a fucking cool place. And right down from the Starbucks where we saw the knife and gun incident,

Greg Glassman (18:16):

That’s a true story too.

Sevan Matossian (18:19):

I bet you if we went down there today, we wouldn’t recognize that area. I bet you it’s all fucked up and boarded up and all that shit. I bet you it’s got problems. I bet you it’s dangerous. Were you and I talking about what’s going on in Oakland with their sporting teams?

Greg Glassman (18:39):

Yeah. Yeah. I think I shared with you something I had read that a legacy of an incredible sporting achievement.

Sevan Matossian (18:51):

Oakland loses third major sports team in five years is a sign Las Vegas deal. This is nuts. So they lost the Warriors, the Raiders, and the A’s,

Greg Glassman (19:04):

And it was 65 year win streak basically in one or several sports.

Sevan Matossian (19:13):

Dude, there’s nothing positive going on in that city. If you look online too, if I typed in Oakland right now in news, it’s crazy. It’s a violent fucked up place. It’s like third world. Do you remember when you used to think about going to South America as a kid and you’re like, fuck, I don’t know if I’m up for that. I feel like that’s what’s happened to some of those cities that we have. Do you feel that way? It’s gotten like that.

Greg Glassman (19:33):

You mean like LA and San Francisco?

Sevan Matossian (19:35):

Yeah, and Portland. Well, not Portland so much, but excuse me. What a mess. As President Dave Caval told the Las Vegas review journal on Wednesday that the team had turned its attention to Las Vegas after the friction persisted in a roughly 15 year attempt to build a new baseball stadium along Oakland’s waterfront. The Vegas stadium will be $1.5 billion, 30,000 seat, ballpark retractable roof. And here we go. I wonder why they don’t use the stadium that the other teams are already in. The Raiders left for a $1.9 billion stadium, a brand new stadium in Las Vegas, and the Warriors left for a 1.4 billion stadium in San Francisco. Holy shit. So I guess that’s the deal. You build a team, a stadium, and they leave. You build in some new shit. I wonder what happens to all the old shit, the old stadium and all the old venues

Greg Glassman (20:47):

Chevy. There’s some kind of inconsistency with a nice place to live and a nice place to have a hundred thousand fucking assholes come hang out and get drunk.

Sevan Matossian (21:02):

Well, these days they’re wealthy assholes though, right? I mean, they’re people like tickets aren’t cheap. Right.

Greg Glassman (21:09):

Still imagine the nightmare of living near a stadium.

Sevan Matossian (21:13):

Right? Okay, I see what you’re saying. Yeah. Every weekend there’s traffic. 52 weekends a year.

Greg Glassman (21:19):

Unless you can figure out some kind of park in my yard scam

Sevan Matossian (21:23):

And drunk drivers and noise and Oh, you mean where you

Greg Glassman (21:27):

Charge congestion?

Sevan Matossian (21:29):

You mean where you charge people to park on your front yard for a hundred bucks on your lawn? Yeah. Yeah. That’s kind of cool. Yeah.

Greg Glassman (21:36):

You can see the houses that have been kept afloat by that as you get near the event, but it’s no place to live.

Sevan Matossian (21:48):

Alison, NYC. Good morning, Alison. All the best cities are a mess.

Greg Glassman (21:53):


Sevan Matossian (21:55):

I was just talking with a buddy of ours, Greg, and I was asking him if he thinks San Francisco will ever turn around and he was pointing out to me that remember when it used to all just be sequestered in the Tenderloin and now it’s just everywhere. San Francisco’s turned into a complete and utter shit hole. What a trip. You think it turns around in the next 10 years

Greg Glassman (22:21):

We have to, Trump gets back in.

Sevan Matossian (22:24):

Yeah. You think he wins?

Greg Glassman (22:26):

Dude, I got no crystal ball for this shit. We’ve gone through it in the middle of things that I would’ve thought were 50, 60 years away, 10 years ago.

Sevan Matossian (22:43):

Would you go as far as to say this is a collapse of civilization, or do you think it’s just maybe just a

Greg Glassman (22:49):

That’s, if that’s your thesis, I would be a better listener than an arguer.

Sevan Matossian (22:59):

Isn’t it just a drug, isn’t it? Are we just seeing a drug situation with alcohol and weeded and cocaine? People can still function, but somehow some drug is, some drugs would become popular. That’s making people walk bent over and isn’t that all that this is, or 80% of what we’re seeing happen to our cities. Those people need to be just all swept up and thrown in jail until they sober up and then let out and just competing until they get off or die.

Greg Glassman (23:27):

It seems that there’s concomitant processes of making people stupider and then getting ’em to find exceptions to what are standard principles of decency or morality and they go hand in hand

Sevan Matossian (23:43):

Like the allowing of all the crime and this behavior on the streets openly with kids walking by as they go to school is the moral failing of the society. And then there’s the drug problem that’s giving people to be stupid and have the moral failing. Is that what you mean?

Greg Glassman (24:02):

The things that you’re asked to believe that end up serving you this pile of shit for a city? I mean, let’s go to the sanctuary city. How about why don’t to top off being a sanctuary city, why doesn’t New York declare itself a fentanyl zone? Meaning you can get fentanyl free there or they won’t prosecute crimes regarding fentanyl, another social experiment. What was the end state? Look how fucking obvious the outcome. There’s an irony and that is, is that the open border, a mantra that is the sanctuary city was presumed to have effect only in Texas and in Arizona, right? Not New York City. So it was hypocritical, insincere, lefty bullshit to begin with. The problem with sanctuary city is they turned into one and it took crushing destructive effect.

Sevan Matossian (25:19):


Greg Glassman (25:19):

Hi. Is that because of me?

Sevan Matossian (25:20):

No, no, no. Caller.

Speaker 4 (25:24):

Hey, good morning guys. Hey Greg. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. We’re New York. In New York, as Sebi has pointed out, mayor Adams has declared New York a sanctuary city and let

Sevan Matossian (25:37):

Everyone in. Can you hold on one second? I just want, for people who don’t know, I just want to be very clear, a sanctuary city. This is from Wikipedia, sanctuary City, a municipality that limits or denies its cooperation with the national government in enforcing immigration laws. It’s fucking insane. Okay, go on.

Speaker 4 (25:53):

So he declared New York a sanctuary city along with Governor Kathy Holle. So we let everyone in and now Mayor Adams is declaring a state of emergency because it’s President Biden’s fault for not securing the borders. It’s okay for those people to come into New Mexico and Texas, but not into New York, not in my house. We also have a problem with Fentanyl. Fentanyl. Now they a New York state initiative of giving out two things, Naloxone, which is a remedy for an overdose of fentanyl and fentanyl testing strips to make sure you have a low amount of fentanyl in your drugs. Now we have our tree lighting tonight. There’s going to be a huge pro-Palestinian protest. No one goes into New York City anymore. They’re losing money by the billions to the point where they are now canceling the next five police academies and having the police department be lowered to the status that we haven’t seen in 40 years. It’s just the demise of New York City and I see it. I live here and this is just awful.

Sevan Matossian (27:07):

Hey, what was the drug that they’re providing people for fentanyl, overdose that you’re saying?

Speaker 4 (27:11):

Naloxone. Naloxone. All the cars here. All the cars here in New York or radio cars or police cars have it and it has saved thousands of lives from drug overdoses.

Sevan Matossian (27:24):

I don’t know if that’s a good thing. I wonder how many lives it’s cost. NYPD to halt academy classes, a Mid-City hiring freeze that God, that can’t be good.

Speaker 4 (27:40):

You have to understand, the New York City Police Department has a very high turnover rate. So they have a lot of academy classes going in at least two per year with at least seven, 800 recruits. Now you get rid of the next five academy classes. The attrition rate is tremendous. You can have a lot less cops on the street, and I know this firsthand, the PBA president of the New York City Police Department, I went to high school with him, played basketball with him. He is to say the least scared of what’s going to happen to New York with the attrition of the police officer.

Sevan Matossian (28:18):

And you’re a police officer also?

Speaker 4 (28:20):


Sevan Matossian (28:22):

NYPD cops leave force and alarming rate over 2,500 turned in badges so far in 2023. Do any of your buddies turn in badges? Do you know people firsthand? I

Speaker 4 (28:30):

Know my buddy who I met in CrossFit, he was on the job for 11 years at Top Pay in a great unit. So what they have in the police department and the NYP, it called all outs. Anyone who’s in a special unit goes to the streets in the summertime just to flood the streets because of the high crime rate over the summertime. So come fall, three falls ago, they didn’t send everyone back to their units, they kept them in the streets. So he was at Top Pay, probably making $120,000 up to $150,000. He took the job that I work at and went back down as a first year cop to $32,000. Why? It’s not for the money, it’s because of the conditions. It’s crazy.

Sevan Matossian (29:21):

Hey, listen to what Bernie Gannon is saying here in NYC. You can get drug needles free from vending machines in sketchy neighborhoods. Is that true or is he joking?

Speaker 4 (29:31):

I don’t go into the city anymore. I used to go a lot more. I’m a one hour train ride away and I would just go there, hang out. It was such a good night life. No one goes. No one goes. I’m a huge Knicks fan. I’m a huge Knicks fan. I don’t even go watch the games anymore. Stayed home.

Greg Glassman (29:56):

What class of people serving, who is this serving.

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