Emily Rolfe & Jay Crouch | 2023 CrossFit Games Prep

Sevan Matossian (00:00):

My, uh, um, bam. We’re live. I got a call from my, um, dentist today at 3 0 7 saying, where are you?

Caleb Beaver (00:12):

<laugh> Shit.

Sevan Matossian (00:14):

Yeah, dude. And I like, I’m really hard on myself for stuff like that, like really hard

Caleb Beaver (00:21):

Missing appointments and stuff.

Sevan Matossian (00:22):

Yeah. I went into my bedroom and shut the door and yelled a little bit just at the walls and shit.

Caleb Beaver (00:27):

Just a little.

Sevan Matossian (00:29):

Yeah. Like, fuck, damnit fuck. Because I’m, I I, I, I think I’m holding all my shit together with everything I’m trying to do and, and, and I Something slipped through the cracks.

Caleb Beaver (00:38):

Yeah. I got you.

Sevan Matossian (00:40):

You know what I mean? It’s like, it’s tough in the, in the big scheme of things. It’s fine. I’m healthy. I don’t have general warts. My kids are strong.

Caleb Beaver (00:48):

No cavities,

Sevan Matossian (00:49):

Everything’s good. No cavities. My teeth feel great, but damn.

Caleb Beaver (00:54):

I went to the dentist yesterday.

Sevan Matossian (00:56):

How was it fun?

Caleb Beaver (00:58):

They just hated me.

Sevan Matossian (00:59):

Oh, why?

Caleb Beaver (01:01):

They just want to get, they want to get, send me to the specialist and all. I’m like, my teeth are fine. Leave me alone.

Sevan Matossian (01:07):

They, they just do that on the base for you.

Caleb Beaver (01:10):


Sevan Matossian (01:12):

What’s up Emily?

Emily Rolfe (01:13):


Sevan Matossian (01:14):

How you doing?

Emily Rolfe (01:15):

I’m good, thank you.

Sevan Matossian (01:17):

Do you, uh, do you go to the dentist before the games? Like you’re like, okay things to do. Oh, wow. What? Those are nice choppers. Holy cow. I would never do that.

Emily Rolfe (01:26):

I’ve paid, I’ve paid some good money for them. <laugh>.

Sevan Matossian (01:29):

Wow. Those are beautiful teeth. Holy cow.

Emily Rolfe (01:32):

Thanks. I, yes, I do go to the dentist, but not right before. I’ve been like a few months ago,

Sevan Matossian (01:39):

I, I, I was, I, so I was like, oh, I should probably go to the dentist and get my teeth cleaned. ’cause I’m gonna be like in people’s face. Like I, I, I ordered a new toothbrush and, and like get the best toothpaste. Like, I prepare like hygienically. ’cause I’m gonna go to the games and be in people’s faces like this.

Emily Rolfe (01:54):

Yeah, you should <laugh>.

Sevan Matossian (01:55):

And I, and I miss my dentist appointment and I’ll like double down on the nose hair clippings. Like, I don’t want anyone to be distracted and be like, oh, someone came and talked to me. You’ve seen that rope hanging out of his nose. But I miss my dentist appointment today and I’m like hating myself.

Emily Rolfe (02:09):

Did you forget or what?

Sevan Matossian (02:11):

Yeah, just, I’m juggling too many balls. Yeah. And, uh, and I, and I feel like it’s crazy disrespectful to the, to the dentist people like crazy disrespectful.

Emily Rolfe (02:23):

I mean,

Sevan Matossian (02:24):

I’m a douche pretty

Emily Rolfe (02:25):

Get constellations all the time.

Sevan Matossian (02:27):

I have negative self-talk. I know, but I, I don’t wanna be that person. I dumb Those people are trying to make a living.

Emily Rolfe (02:35):

It’s true. Yeah. I guess maybe they don’t get paid. I don’t know. My line of work, if patients cancel, I’m like, Woohoo. <laugh>,

Sevan Matossian (02:42):

<laugh>. I mean, you’re a nurse, right?

Emily Rolfe (02:44):

Uh, I’m technically an M R T. So we have like booked patients throughout the day too. But

Sevan Matossian (02:49):

What, what’s m r T?

Emily Rolfe (02:51):

So it’s like, I do, um, like, well, I don’t really do X-rays anymore, but I work in CT mostly. So like CAT scans.

Sevan Matossian (02:58):


Emily Rolfe (02:59):

Say in America?

Sevan Matossian (03:01):

Yeah, that’s the machine you go in and it’s like clack, clack, clack. And they’re like, push the button if you get scared and we’ll let you out.

Emily Rolfe (03:06):

That’s M r i, but similar.

Sevan Matossian (03:08):

Oh. Oh, CAT scan. Oh, cat scans around your head.

Emily Rolfe (03:13):

Yeah, it’s like, yeah, it can be around anywhere, but,

Sevan Matossian (03:18):

And, and that’s the, is is that safe? Are are, do are, is that why you’re so strong? You got like radiation, you got ra like the thing, like there you

Emily Rolfe (03:25):

Go. <laugh>.

Sevan Matossian (03:26):

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Emily Rolfe (03:28):

Um, we’re behind like a lead screen, so we’re meant to be safe.

Sevan Matossian (03:34):

I like that. <laugh>, uh, already money coming in. Well, that’s nice. Uh, extra sloppy. I missed you this morning. Better late than ever.

Emily Rolfe (03:44):

Is that your dental technician or

Sevan Matossian (03:46):

No? It should be, uh, they have open MRIs now where you don’t have to be in the tunnel.

Emily Rolfe (03:55):

Oh, I didn’t know that.

Sevan Matossian (03:59):

High tech.

Emily Rolfe (04:00):

It’s good for claustrophobic people.

Sevan Matossian (04:02):

Emily, what was the first year you went to the games?

Emily Rolfe (04:05):


Sevan Matossian (04:09):

So I, I guess that would explain why I’ve never met you for some reason. I thought you were in Carson.

Emily Rolfe (04:15):


Sevan Matossian (04:16):

You were never in Carson.

Emily Rolfe (04:17):

Didn’t CrossFit at that point.

Sevan Matossian (04:18):

Oh, wow. Okay. So I’ve never even, I’ve never even been in the same place as you. I’ve never even had the opportunity to run into or bump into. That was your first games? 2019?

Emily Rolfe (04:29):


Sevan Matossian (04:30):

And then 2020. Um, did you make it to the games?

Emily Rolfe (04:35):

I did. And then when they reorganized or whatever, I was the one few that got cut <laugh>

Sevan Matossian (04:44):

Is, is, is that the year, the pandemic year?

Emily Rolfe (04:46):


Sevan Matossian (04:48):

And do you get to say on your resume that you made it to the games or just those five people get to say that? I

Emily Rolfe (04:54):

Mean, no, I, they cut like, so 40 of us made it and then they went through and before they did the online one, they cut like five or 10 more of us. Okay. I don’t know. I don’t even remember like, what the logistics were, but I guess they couldn’t have too many people. So I don’t think 40 didn’t compete online that year. It was like 20 or 30.

Sevan Matossian (05:14):

Okay. Did you get to say in your resume you made it?

Emily Rolfe (05:17):

I do. Oh

Sevan Matossian (05:18):

Yeah. Okay. Fair. We’ll check that off. Okay. And then, and then 2021.

Emily Rolfe (05:23):

Yeah, I was there.

Sevan Matossian (05:24):


Emily Rolfe (05:24):

I think I was 15th.

Sevan Matossian (05:27):

Did you win an event that year?

Emily Rolfe (05:29):

I did in 2019 and 2021. I won an event both running events.

Sevan Matossian (05:34):

Um, is that the, did you chase down Sam Briggs outside on a straightaway? Yeah. Yeah, I remember that. Okay. I remember that. That’s when you first really popped on my radar. She kind of started babbling like this.

Emily Rolfe (05:45):

Yeah. She,

Sevan Matossian (05:46):

You were way back, right. And then you caught her.

Emily Rolfe (05:48):

I mean, yeah, I was in the Chase group. She was way out in front of everyone. She just shot outta there. <laugh>.

Sevan Matossian (05:54):

Yeah. And then you got her?

Emily Rolfe (05:57):


Sevan Matossian (05:58):

And you won the event. Is that the first event you ever wanted to cross the games?

Emily Rolfe (06:01):

No, I won an event in 2019.

Sevan Matossian (06:04):

What, what did you do in that one? What was that one?

Emily Rolfe (06:06):

That was that ruck run the backpack. And then every lap we load, load our backpacks up and it was just like a pure run.

Sevan Matossian (06:14):

And you have the Go Ruck shirt on.

Emily Rolfe (06:17):

Yeah. There you go.

Sevan Matossian (06:19):

Uh, Sarah Cox, $19. Why? Thank you. I’m going to the, um, games, uh, this year because of the kindness of, uh, CrossFit allowing me to film the behind the scenes. And then, uh, Sarah Cox sponsoring it.

Emily Rolfe (06:31):

Oh, wow.

Sevan Matossian (06:32):

Yeah. That’s kind of cool, right?

Emily Rolfe (06:34):

Yeah. I saw your phone call with Dave this morning.

Sevan Matossian (06:37):

Oh, yeah? Yeah. Brief. Brief. But did he

Emily Rolfe (06:40):

Back to you or <laugh>?

Sevan Matossian (06:42):

<laugh>. He’s gotten back to me since then and told me to, um, uh, he, I better be on my best behavior. He will kick me out Lty split if I fuck around. He’s been, he’s, he’s, he’s drawing some lines in the sand. He’s been, I I can handle it. I’m a, I’m a big boy. There you go. I’m very, it was, it was a short phone call, right?

Emily Rolfe (07:04):

Yeah, it was pretty short.

Sevan Matossian (07:05):

<laugh>. And then, so, so you got those two ends, and then you go to, and then you go 20, um, 22 CrossFit games. And I heard you say on the, um, podcast with Scott Schweitzer, uh, 13 round. 13 up and downs. 13 attempts to finish 75 pull-ups. Yeah. And was that workout number one or workout number two?

Emily Rolfe (07:33):

That was the first workout.

Sevan Matossian (07:34):

First workout of the games. And you showed up there in the best shape of your life.

Emily Rolfe (07:42):

Yeah. Up to that point.

Sevan Matossian (07:44):


Emily Rolfe (07:46):

Um, yeah, that hand, you can see in that photo, it’s pretty, it’s a little bit, uh, not the right pinky color. <laugh>.

Sevan Matossian (07:56):

What, what did your, um, what did your mom, and what did your mom and dad were they, what are they? Uh, what ethnicity are you? What? Your mom and dad? What, what’s their background?

Emily Rolfe (08:06):

<laugh>, they’re white. I don’t know.

Sevan Matossian (08:07):

Are are like, like you don’t know how you ended up in Canada? Like, are they from, like, do you know where they’re from before Canada?

Emily Rolfe (08:12):

I think my dad’s line is German.

Sevan Matossian (08:14):


Emily Rolfe (08:15):


Sevan Matossian (08:17):

And, um, don’t you love it when your friends call you during a podcast? That, that then, you know, they’re not listening. <laugh>, sons of bitches,

Emily Rolfe (08:25):


Sevan Matossian (08:26):

Friends. And um, and, and then did you play sports growing up?

Emily Rolfe (08:31):

Yeah, I was a gymnast for like, my whole life. And then I, I did a year of pole vault.

Sevan Matossian (08:38):

Oh. And

Emily Rolfe (08:38):

Then, yeah, they were just like, oh, you can flip through the air and you have body awareness. You’d be good at this.

Sevan Matossian (08:44):

So I did Caleb, I got Caleb. Oh yeah. Caleb. Yeah. <laugh>. Okay. We’re gonna get back to the, where there’s a lot to unpack here. Okay. There’s a shit load to pack. Here. Pull that back up here a second. Well, okay, we’re gonna get back to, we opened up, we have three pathways of the reason why I was asking about your ethnicity is you have, you have remarkable genetics. I mean, you, you look like, um, a superhero. Oh, you, yeah. You really are amazing looking human being like your proportion perfectly. Um, but I

Emily Rolfe (09:13):

Think, I don’t know, I don’t know if that’s genetics, but whatever. I’ll take it. <laugh>,

Sevan Matossian (09:18):

You think? Oh, you think you, you got it through like the stuff you did from being a triathlete?

Emily Rolfe (09:23):

Yeah, I think triathlete. I’ve never been a triathlete,

Sevan Matossian (09:27):

But, oh, you weren’t a triathlete.

Emily Rolfe (09:29):


Sevan Matossian (09:30):

Oh, okay. Scratch that. I’m not saying that you didn’t earn it. I’m not saying that you didn’t earn. I’m, I’m, I don’t think you, you were born with any talent. I’m saying you earned it all, but proportionately, I mean, there are some weird looking games athletes. Like, like, like, like they’re not proportioned properly. The head’s too big arms are too long. I mean, you’re like, Tia looks like she’s proportion perfectly. Like she came out of like a, like an action figure. And you look the same way. You look like you’re proportioned, you know, perfectly.

Emily Rolfe (09:55):

Oh, thank you. I think my limbs are a lot longer than Tia’s, which isn’t

Sevan Matossian (09:59):


Emily Rolfe (10:00):


Sevan Matossian (10:01):

You’re tall or perfectly proportioned human.

Emily Rolfe (10:04):

Yeah, I’m taller.

Sevan Matossian (10:05):

How tall are you?

Emily Rolfe (10:06):

Five seven.

Sevan Matossian (10:08):

Um, uh, I don’t know shit about pole vaulting. But Why are you pole vaulting so close to a brick wall?

Emily Rolfe (10:15):

You, I, this is just the photo.

Sevan Matossian (10:17):

Okay. It’s not

Emily Rolfe (10:18):

<laugh>. It’s not,

Sevan Matossian (10:18):

It’s not close. No, it’s like a zoom. It compressed the depth of field. You’re not like pole vaulting into it.

Emily Rolfe (10:23):


Sevan Matossian (10:24):

Okay. What a, what a strange crop of a pole. Vaulting vi uh, picture.

Emily Rolfe (10:33):

We can’t, I don’t even remember posting this. So that was, man, 2015. Okay. Well, <laugh>,

Sevan Matossian (10:42):

We can’t even tell if you’re like, you might be standing right there. I could be.

Emily Rolfe (10:48):

Yeah. You know what? The mat was probably right below, so I probably cropped it to be, it looked like high,

Sevan Matossian (10:53):


Emily Rolfe (10:54):


Sevan Matossian (10:56):

Uh, um, Annie Thor’s daughter and Danielle. Brandon and, um, Emily Rolf pole. Vaulters.

Emily Rolfe (11:03):

Yeah. Danielle was really good. She was like collegiate level, but I just did club.

Sevan Matossian (11:09):

But, uh, anybody else in, in the, in the pole vaulting group? You know,

Emily Rolfe (11:14):

I, I didn’t know Annie. I knew Danielle, but I didn’t know of Annie.

Sevan Matossian (11:18):

And, um, how, how do you, how, how old are you here?

Emily Rolfe (11:26):

20, 15, 7

Sevan Matossian (11:29):

Years ago. Is that the math? Eight, eight years ago. I have a calculator if you wanna What you were how old?

Emily Rolfe (11:38):


Sevan Matossian (11:39):

You’re po You started pole vaulting at 26?

Emily Rolfe (11:42):

Yeah, well probably 25. Oh, that’s not right. I,

Sevan Matossian (11:46):

How old are you now? Let me do your math. Let me do the math. How old are you now? I’m

Emily Rolfe (11:49):

24. I’m old. I retired from gymnastics when I was like two. I was super old. And then I think I just found like boys and university and parties for a bit. Yeah. Yeah. And, and I did pole vault for a year and then I moved away for school. So that’s kind of stopped doing that and started CrossFit.

Sevan Matossian (12:14):

But man, that was a lot. Boys university pole vaulting.

Emily Rolfe (12:20):

Yeah. ’cause I was in a sport where I was like, you’re very much in a bubble your whole life and you’re just training all the time. Gymnastics, you train five hours a day. Ah.

Sevan Matossian (12:30):


Emily Rolfe (12:31):

It was kind of like, Ooh. Life

Sevan Matossian (12:33):

<laugh>. How old were you when you started gymnastics?

Emily Rolfe (12:36):

Oh, I learned to walk in the gym. I

Sevan Matossian (12:38):

Was, oh, no shit. Yeah. So you had Olympic aspirations?

Emily Rolfe (12:42):

Yeah. For gymnastics. Yeah. I wasn’t good enough though. I was good. I was national, but not, not good enough to be there. <laugh>.

Sevan Matossian (12:52):

Yeah. How long, how long did you do it? Tell me what happens at the end of a career of someone, of, uh, of someone who’s put that much time in? How many years were you doing it? And tell me how that ends.

Emily Rolfe (13:01):

Yeah. Well I went till I was 22, so I was probably competitive from like the age of 10 on. Um, and then I kind of did all the sports and then my parents were like, they wanted to keep me in everything as long as possible. And I was like, all I wanna do is gymnastics. And then, so I just gradually started doing more and more gymnastics and then I had to drop soccer and volleyball and everything. Um, yeah.

Sevan Matossian (13:26):

And, and do you remember the first time you were in the weight room?

Emily Rolfe (13:30):

Yeah. <laugh>. I was young because my dad coaches weightlifting. Hmm. So I know funny that it should be better, but <laugh> um, so we did it kind of as cross training, um, for track for sure. And then a little bit gymnastics too. And I did like competitions growing up ’cause my brother was doing it. So they, they’d drag me along so I’d compete too. So I learned how to snatch and clean and jerk really young. But I couldn’t care less. Like I had nothing to do with it.

Sevan Matossian (14:00):

Hey, um, remember how earlier in, uh, hours ago in the interview when I said I referred you as a triathlete? Triathlete? Triathlonist. Triathlete.

Emily Rolfe (14:11):

Triathlete. Tri

Sevan Matossian (14:13):

Triathlete. Thank you. Um, so can you, can you save me or throw me a line? Why did I think that you, you, you ran track for many years. Why do I think that Were you, were you, you were a biathlete, you ran marathons, you were a swimmer something? No, just your math. Just to, I’m just totally off. Okay. I think

Emily Rolfe (14:29):

You think I’d be good at the triathlon?

Sevan Matossian (14:31):

Okay. I projected it onto you. Yeah. Why are you so good at running?

Emily Rolfe (14:35):

I don’t know. I think that’s just a, I’ve always had that, I’ve always, I won those like cross country races, you know, you do. In elementary, I had like a winning streak from grade four to grade eight. And it was the worst. ’cause by the time I was like in grade seven, it was like the most stressful thing. ’cause I had to win ’cause it was like this. I won every single one. So haven’t run a cross country race since then. Till next week.

Sevan Matossian (14:59):

<laugh> um, 20 years of gymnastics. And then, um, you started CrossFitting?

Emily Rolfe (15:05):


Sevan Matossian (15:07):

And, and, and how did you find CrossFit?

Emily Rolfe (15:10):

Uh, loved it because it felt like I was doing gymnastics again.

Sevan Matossian (15:14):

And how, how did you find it? Did, did you just walk by a gym or someone dragged you in or?

Emily Rolfe (15:19):

Uh, I went to a competition because my boyfriend at the time, um, was like, he had one of those booths at the competition. Um, boyfriend, now husband. It’s

Sevan Matossian (15:29):

The same name. Oh, same guy. You got him. You. That’s the dude.

Emily Rolfe (15:33):

And then yeah, we were watching Kyle and Kyle. Yeah. Yeah. There you go. Good job.

Sevan Matossian (15:37):

Yeah. Got something right. Wrong sport. I don’t know your history, but I know your boyfriend husband’s name. Okay.

Emily Rolfe (15:43):

Um, yeah, we were just watching and I don’t even know if he said you’d be good. Someone was like, you’d be good. And I was like, nah, I’m not doing that. And then a couple weeks later, what do you know, <laugh>,

Sevan Matossian (15:53):

Um, how does your, uh, body composition change from being a gymnast to a, uh, CrossFitter?

Emily Rolfe (16:02):

I would say I’m probably, I mean, I was pretty lean as a gymnast, but I was pretty skinny and tiny. ’cause you just kind of want to be light. Um, so I gained about, I would say, almost 20 pounds of muscle since then. I was skinny if, yeah, I don’t know what you’re gonna, I mean, that was last year. That was my last year. So I was like, bit, bit bulkier there. But, um, yeah, if you go back, I was pretty skinny.

Sevan Matossian (16:32):

Uh, and did you gain the first 10 pounds really quickly?

Emily Rolfe (16:36):


Sevan Matossian (16:37):


Emily Rolfe (16:38):

I feel like it, it’s always been hard for me to gain muscle mass. I’ve been on like a million strength programs and <laugh> finally I’m trying gained some muscle.

Sevan Matossian (16:49):

I’m trying to think. So, and how, and so how many years total have you been doing CrossFit?

Emily Rolfe (16:53):

Mm, 2015 on.

Sevan Matossian (16:55):

Oh wow. Okay. So, so you are putting into the muscle on slow. Yeah.

Emily Rolfe (17:00):

Like eight years.

Sevan Matossian (17:01):

Yeah. That it’s basically you’re putting on two pounds a year. Two, two to three pounds a year.

Emily Rolfe (17:07):

Yeah. I mean, I guess on average.

Sevan Matossian (17:08):

Yeah. Crazy. Yeah. Um, we had, uh, Abigail, um, dome on here. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And she was, uh, aspiring model. And she said the first, the first month she did CrossFit. She put on 10 pounds. Like, she was just like, oh. Her body was just like, oh, thank you.

Emily Rolfe (17:25):

Dang. Yeah. Because she was eating so much more. Or just

Sevan Matossian (17:27):

Probably, yeah, probably. She was eating so much more. Right. Okay. Her body was just like, yeah. Oh, she was, she was pretty skinny. You could like see it. Like she had little knobs of shoulders and shit.

Emily Rolfe (17:37):

I think my first bit of CrossFit, I was still like gymnast mentality. Like, I can’t eat too much. I don’t wanna like, eat sugars and fats and I can’t gain weight. And so I think probably it was a little bit very slow at the beginning ’cause I was scared of getting bigger <laugh>.

Sevan Matossian (17:56):

And, um, when you, when you, uh, leave gymnastics, are you, um, is, is, is is kind, is is CrossFit kind of like a a, a rebound? Was it like a rebound boyfriend? Like it was emotionally hard and you’re just like, all right, fuck you, I’ll go off with these guys.

Emily Rolfe (18:15):

<laugh> kind of, because you have, you have a bit of a void. ’cause like, as I say, you’re spending so much time doing that sport and then you’re kind of like, now what? Now what do I do?

Sevan Matossian (18:26):

And, and part of CrossFit’s super easy for you, right? I mean like, I mean the entry is very easy for you.

Emily Rolfe (18:33):

Yeah. I mean, I caught on really quick. I got my first muscle up really quick. Like things that take people a long time was easy. The easy, like the handstand walking, like stuff like that I’ve been doing since I’ve been five. That stuff’s easy, but

Sevan Matossian (18:50):

Double unders, handstand walk, rope climb, muscle up, bar muscle up. You’re just,

Emily Rolfe (18:55):

Yeah. You know, the skills were easy to learn, but I wouldn’t say I’m was like CrossFit efficient. Like the way we climb ropes and gymnastics is not how you do it in CrossFit. And so I had to kinda learn how to be a lot more efficient. Yeah. That was when they first learned muscle lift.

Sevan Matossian (19:13):

Yeah. You’re ski, you look skinny there. I mean, you look, I mean, for a traditional woman you look pretty buffed there, but compared to like where you are with your 40 peers who are going to Madison, you look, you look definitely thinner there.

Emily Rolfe (19:25):

Yeah. I mean I remember that photo and I thought I looked super hench. I was like, man, I look huge.

Sevan Matossian (19:31):

What was the word you used? Super What?

Emily Rolfe (19:33):


Sevan Matossian (19:34):


Emily Rolfe (19:35):


Sevan Matossian (19:36):

Caleb. Look it

Emily Rolfe (19:37):


Sevan Matossian (19:38):

Yes. Hench. Hench. Is that a Canadian word?

Emily Rolfe (19:42):

I guess not <laugh>. I guess if you, although you’re American, I feel like it’s an English word.

Sevan Matossian (19:47):

Hench. I dunno. We, uh, English Canadian hench. Yeah. I mean, I mean, yeah, I mean for like any, anyone should be proud if there is buff as that. But I mean, I could see what you, I mean that’s a, um, 20 years of gymnastics and yeah, you’re gonna have some like crazy muscles like that. But now you, now you look like a, like you could do anything. You look like a full blown CrossFitter strong fit in having well-developed muscles. Oh wow. Hench.

Emily Rolfe (20:12):

There you go. New word.

Sevan Matossian (20:14):

God. It sounds so derogatory. <laugh>. There’s nothing funnier than seeing a really hench guy walking a tiny dog. <laugh>. Fair enough.

Emily Rolfe (20:27):

Kyle must have taught me that word. I blame him.

Sevan Matossian (20:29):

He’s English.

Emily Rolfe (20:30):

Yeah. <laugh>.

Sevan Matossian (20:33):

So, so you pick it up and, and it’s, and it’s nice, right? Because you’re good at it. You’re growing quickly at it. It’s filling the void, you’re sweating. Um,

Emily Rolfe (20:40):

Yeah, it was great. I went in these local comps. I was winning them all. Like it was, it was good.

Sevan Matossian (20:46):

Good. Emily. Tons of accolades. Yeah. I love that. Yeah. Fill a void. And then, and then when did, when did you have your like, um, start having your, uh, pathology of wanting to be the best in the world? When did you the disease set in?

Emily Rolfe (21:01):

I think after the first open, because then I learned, oh, you could do the open and then you could make regionals. So I was kind of like, oh, I wanna make regionals. And then that was like my first roadblock. I didn’t make regionals till 2017 and then didn’t make regionals again the next year in 2018. And then I made the games the next year and then it was all Okay.

Sevan Matossian (21:24):

So you’ve been with Kyle A. Long time?

Emily Rolfe (21:28):

Yeah. He only started coaching me in 2017.

Sevan Matossian (21:32):

Oh, he he’s your coach. He is your coach, yeah. And your boyfriend. So you’re doing CrossFit and he’s your boyfriend. And then finally did he just accidentally become your coach? ’cause he is just always there watching you. And he is like, Hey, do this. Go deeper, do that. And then next thing you know, he’s your coach

Emily Rolfe (21:49):

<laugh>. Um, he had a background in personal training and um, he’s coached kind of his whole life. That’s not his day job. He has a different job. But, um, yeah, it was kind of like I wasn’t improving where I was. And um, I think we kind of, he said, do one of my programs and then see if you improve and if you don’t like leave it. And I really improved. Like I’ve always been lacking in strength and I got a lot stronger. So I was like, okay, I trust you. And then he just, yeah, just went from there.

Sevan Matossian (22:20):

Wow. What a trip. So, um, Carolyn Lambay and, and Jeffrey Adler. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> Caleb That was close. <laugh>, uh, Tia Tomi and Shane Orr.

Emily Rolfe (22:38):

Yeah. Trying to think of who else.

Sevan Matossian (22:40):

Uh, Emily Rolfe and Kyle Rofe.

Emily Rolfe (22:45):

Yeah. <laugh>. I took his name.

Sevan Matossian (22:47):

Kyle Rol. It’s crazy.

Emily Rolfe (22:51):

People can, I mean, if you can make it work, like Yeah, we have a lot of, we call ’em domestics. <laugh>. But if you

Sevan Matossian (22:58):

Can like, oh, I like that domestics. Yeah.

Emily Rolfe (23:00):

Yeah. No assault. But <laugh>, if, if you can make it work, it’s the best because that person knows you inside and out and they know everything you’re doing. They know how you’re sleeping, you’re eating. Like it’s, it’s the best. But yeah, you, a lot of people can’t do

Sevan Matossian (23:15):

That. And, and it’s a lot of accountability because you’re living with your Oh no, no. Uh, no. Um, no. I don’t think that Danielle, Brandon and Matt Torres. I think that’s premature. Nice try though. Pool. Boy, I appreciate the god you guys are dickheads in the crowd. Um, that’s a lot of accountability. ’cause you’re living with the yard duty.

Emily Rolfe (23:35):


Sevan Matossian (23:37):

Emily is is that you by the refrigerator? You know it’s 3:00 AM

Emily Rolfe (23:42):

<laugh>. Yeah. Right. He’s the other way. He’s you should, uh, I I wake up at 3:00 AM like starving sometimes just during games training. Just ’cause I’m training so much. And

Sevan Matossian (23:52):

He’s like, is that really true?

Emily Rolfe (23:53):

He’ll like, put a protein shake by my bed or like put a snack by my bed.

Sevan Matossian (23:58):

Yeah, you look really lean. Are do you have trouble? Um, are you one of those people who can just eat as much as you want? You look lean as shit. Always.

Emily Rolfe (24:05):

Yeah. And I’m eating a crap load. I, I always say like, I feel like a 16 year old boy

Sevan Matossian (24:12):

Just eating, eating, eating.

Emily Rolfe (24:14):

Yeah. <laugh> everything. I just

Sevan Matossian (24:18):

One, one. Um, uh, there’s something so inappropriate to say there. Does Kyle think I’ll say it anyway? Does Kyle think you feel like a 16 year old boy? Anyway, nevermind. <laugh>, um,

Speaker 4 (24:29):


Sevan Matossian (24:29):

What, what did he say?

Emily Rolfe (24:31):

Yeah, what’d you say?

Speaker 4 (24:32):

Like, like a dog heat.

Emily Rolfe (24:34):

He said like a dog in heat. I think he was talking to the eating wife, not the hormones.

Sevan Matossian (24:43):

Um, what, what was that way? Uh, pull that picture back up again. Kayla. What’s that? On the back wall back there? What did, what are, what is that?

Emily Rolfe (24:50):

Those are boxing gloves. Oh,

Sevan Matossian (24:52):


Emily Rolfe (24:53):

Top of our gym is like a boxing, whatever you call it. Domestic Moay hai. I don’t know what kickboxing,

Sevan Matossian (25:03):

Um, what was Kyle selling when you met him and does he still sell it?

Speaker 4 (25:07):


Emily Rolfe (25:08):

Yeah. What were you selling?

Speaker 4 (25:10):

I was doing by a signature, wasn’t I?

Emily Rolfe (25:13):

Oh yeah, he was doing like the calipers, um, like body fat dexa kind of measurements.

Sevan Matossian (25:20):

Oh, oh, okay. He was really like, you pay him and you’d measure you.

Emily Rolfe (25:24):

Yeah. Something like that.

Sevan Matossian (25:25):

Like, he’d be like, Hey, you’re fat. Hey, you’re skinny. Okay. Oh, there’s this, oh, is that his, is that his business? Is that, I can’t, is that UCAN stuff? They were in pouches for a while. I think Ben Bergeron and I would see hi all of his athletes eating it. Is it that stuff

Emily Rolfe (25:39):

Too? Yeah. So that’s not his business, but Oh, I guess that’s so long ago. I don’t, I guess he was like doing something for them at that. I think that was at like a local competition

Sevan Matossian (25:50):

Another lifetime ago.

Emily Rolfe (25:52):

Yeah. Really was <laugh>.

Sevan Matossian (25:57):

There was so, so, so then you, you get aspirations to make it to the games and e every year since then, has the, I don’t know how to say this. Has the effort to get there meant more and more narrowing and narrowing the scope of your life. Like, um, do, do you know what I mean? Like Yeah. Fewer vacations, tighter diet, um, uh, more sleep. Like just, you’re just, everything is just bringing it down to like, Hey, that’s not helping me Go to the games Bo by then you, you see you. No mom, no more Mother’s Day for you. <laugh>. You know what? I just like,

Emily Rolfe (26:38):

You know what, in a way, because everyone just keeps getting better and better every year. Yeah. So it feels like you gotta put more, like you dedicate more of your life into it. But every year that I’ve made it, it’s been kind of different and special in their own way. So I don’t know. Can’t really compare.

Sevan Matossian (26:56):

And, and, and, and you show up there and basically the only thing I can think of is it’s like a fucking indie car racer. You show up there and your car breaks, you, you, your car crash. You have your, you crashed your car on the first lap.

Emily Rolfe (27:13):

Yeah. I mean, talking about my arm.

Sevan Matossian (27:15):

Yeah. You just, you just first turn 200 miles an hour. You just went straight into the wall.

Emily Rolfe (27:21):

Yeah. But I mean, pretty much.

Sevan Matossian (27:23):

And, and, and then, and then how do you, how, how do you deal with that? Like what? Because God damn, I can’t imagine how much work. It’s from 2015 to 2000. Oh. ’cause I went back and listened to a bunch of your podcasts and you were revved, you were, you were pretty, uh, you were pretty cock Sure. Going into, uh, last year. Yeah. You seen, you were pretty like, I’m, I’m I’m coming. Like this is, and uh, sure. Yeah. Say it again.

Emily Rolfe (27:53):

It should have been a good games for me.

Sevan Matossian (27:55):

Yeah. Yeah. Um, and, and I do think that probably because of that accident you had and people not getting to see you on display, but maybe for other reasons too, you are probably one of the most underrated athletes. Like, you’re one of those people that’s like, I think people are are don’t, they just don’t see, they don’t see you. You know what I mean? You’re just, you’re kind of in that mix. But I think you’re definitely crazy underrated. Um, but how do you cope with that? Do you just have, just, do you just go into a whole cave and cry for four days or?

Emily Rolfe (28:25):

Oh, how do I cope with being underrated?

Sevan Matossian (28:27):

No, sorry, not that. How do you cope with the fact of um, no, that’s just idiots talking like myself. But I mean, how do you cope with you? You don’t, you have put a fi eight years into preparing for this competition and then you don’t get to do it.

Emily Rolfe (28:41):

You know what? I didn’t look at it like that. Like yeah, it sucked, but

Sevan Matossian (28:45):

I was probably, oh, okay. Next question then. <laugh>.

Emily Rolfe (28:47):

No, I was kinda like, we get our Olympics every year, so I have to wait another year. Yeah, that sucks. I wasted, well, felt like I wasted the whole year. But like, can you imagine if our Olympics was actually the real Olympics, like every four years? Like that’s, that’s detrimental. Like by that time it’ll be 37. Like who knows what, you know. But we’re so lucky that you only have to wait a year. Like that’s short in sports terms. That’s pretty short.

Sevan Matossian (29:15):

Did someone say that to you? Were you like just cr like a gelatinous sack of shit crying on the floor and they’re like, oh, don’t worry next year. And you’re like, oh, okay.

Emily Rolfe (29:23):

No, I kind of came to that realization myself.

Sevan Matossian (29:26):

You did? Well, good on you.

Emily Rolfe (29:27):

On the Olympics.

Sevan Matossian (29:28):

Good on you. Wow. Yeah.

Emily Rolfe (29:31):

Geez. I mean, they had to pull me off. I wasn’t gonna quit. Um, and I felt like they kind of like gave me the choice and I was like, well, the next event should be fine. It’s just shuttle runs and, you know, jerks. I don’t really need to grip the bar that hard. And then they were like, but like you have no pulse. Like <laugh>, you cannot continue on.

Sevan Matossian (29:52):

And when they, when you say they, you have no pulse, you had no pulse. You had one in your neck, just not in your arm.

Emily Rolfe (29:56):

Yeah. So no radio pulse or ulner.

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