Day 2 Recap – CrossFit Semifinals

Sevan Matossian (00:01):

Yo, bam. We’re live. John Young. Mr. Spin. Good to see y’all. Caleb, uh, Matt Suza, great to see you. Uh, hey, Hey. I am stoked that today ended early. I wanna make one quick comment before, uh, we move forward. Um, I was raised to, uh, uh, in, uh, in, in California, in the Bay Area, um, on the forefront in a lot of ways in the world. And, uh, there’s a subtle hatred in, um, in California, uh, ever flowing on this, in this great state of a, sort of a hatred towards religion in God and sort of in a hatred towards the United States of America. And it’s very subtle, but it’s always there. And it’s constantly there. And as I’ve gotten older and I’ve matured, I’ve realized I’ve been to a more than a hundred countries. I’ve been to all seven continents. And for those of you who do not know the United States of America, you should realize that it is the canary in the coal mine.


If this country falls, if something bad happens here, all of you are fucked. You have to understand that I am telling you that from someone, and we can get in discussion on another podcast, I’ve been everywhere. Do not wish for bad things to happen in this country. There’s a protection here going on for all of you that you are not aware of, that you will become aware of if you come here and visit here. This is an incredible country. It’s a very unique place. The experiment that’s going on here is completely unique of liberty and democracy. And no matter what anyone fucking tells you about this being a bad place or a racist place or whatever, it’s, it’s, um, it is not nearly as bad as where you live. You have to understand, this is the experiment this country is, is the inhabitants of everywhere else on the planet, all trying to make it work here first.


So don’t get confused. And the other thing, those of you who are criticizing Emma’s, uh, uh, uh, love for God and her quoting of scripture, I also come from there. And I’m also not a religious person. And it’s completely insane to hate on religious people, especially the Christians in this, in the United States of America. They keep the moral fiber and values alive. No one else is being taught values and morals except for the religious people in this country, and especially the Christians. And this is coming from someone who is not Christian, but I would fucking much rather have all my neighbors be Christians than anything else. And so and so be careful. Be careful what you wish for. We need a group of people in this country who don’t want babies killed in their mother’s wombs, who want people to stand upright and be strong, to be brave, to be loving, to treat their number, um, uh, neighbors the way they want to be treated.


So be careful, the kind of dumb shit you say hating on people just because you don’t understand what they’re doing or what part of the, uh, the, uh, the teeter tot or a balance of power they’re keeping in place. So just, uh, check yourselves, knuckleheads. It’s not just because some of us don’t understand religion or don’t understand the United States of America does not mean that it’s not vital to the existence of all of humanity. And I love Emma’s comments. Absolutely. Okay. Sorry. I just got me all fired up when I saw the comments and people hating on that shit. It’s like, wow. Yeah, Barry Ulner, uh, more kids, uh, need to act like Carrie. Yeah, I agree. Okay. Uh, fantastic day. Let’s bring up the women’s leaderboard. Incredible, by the way, thank you guys for hanging with me all, um, all weekend so far, John and Spin, and Caleb and Suza, and hopefully we can get Tyler on here. I’m surprised he’s not on here. We’ve been fucking crushing it, and I’m, uh, ecstatic. Uh, it, it’s, it’s almost like what we, it’s, it’s almost like, uh, what have you done for me lately? It’s, I almost feel embarrassed. Like we’ve forgotten. I mean, Emma Carey and Emma Lawson are, are, are, are just doing it, right?

John Young (03:45):

Yeah. Yeah. I’m, I mean, Emma Carey was, uh, right there with Mal, and then she got hurt and Mal took off, and I mean, Emma Lawson showed up last year, and she’s been doing it since. Emma Austin shouldn’t be a surprise to anybody. Um, honestly, Emma Carey shouldn’t either, but I’m really, really happy she’s doing as good as she’s doing.

Sevan Matossian (04:02):

Uh, in that final event, while Trish, in my head, let me ask you guys, what was, uh, what do you think Daniel, Brandon was smiling because, um, she thought she was gonna win, or that was just a mechanism of just like trying to deal with the pain she was having. But at the end there, you know, I’m, I’m guessing we all thought she was going to win because she is the better runner. But you did see, uh, Emma Carey and Emma Lawson putting on the gas pedal sh showing some of that, uh, championship, uh, um, uh, identity in them, correct?

Brian Spin (04:30):

Yeah. I mean, I think, I think, you know, one of the questions was going into this with the so many qualifying spots. You know, if you’re up turning stop at the leaderboard right now, and you’re, you know, you’re doing well, is there a reason to push yourself to win the event? Or is second or third good enough? I, I just feel like she felt comfortable and good and was just enjoying herself out there and was, was happy with where she finished.

Sevan Matossian (04:55):

Uh, I’d like to give a huge, uh, compliment also to, uh, the CrossFit Games team for getting this leader board up so fast. This is kind of unheard of, right?

Brian Spin (05:04):

Uh, I don’t think the standings have been updated, though.

John Young (05:07):

We can, we can make judgment calls on it. Their placings are in there.

Brian Spin (05:11):


Sevan Matossian (05:12):

Oh, okay. So, so we don’t know the overall, overall.

John Young (05:15):

Oh, no, it’s updated. The points are updated, yeah. Okay. Cause they’re in the 400 s

Sevan Matossian (05:19):

Oh, okay. Let’s go over the workout real quick and then, and then we’ll, and then we’ll look at the rankings. Uh, four and five. Um, uh oh, wow. Parran Wow. A first and a 43rd. Uh, Paige Powers is, is Paige Powers the only one. Paige, uh, Danielle, Amanda, Emma Lawson. So these top three on top, uh, Danielle Parran. Ashley and Emma. They’re not going, huh? Caleb, did you wanna say something?

John Young (05:45):

I was just gonna direct you to what was going on, but you got

Sevan Matossian (05:48):

It. Okay. Okay. Um, these, these three on top, Daniel Pran and Ashley and Emma, um, they’re not going to the games.

John Young (05:56):

I mean, Ashley’s got a shot. She’s 12th overall right now. Um, and if she did that well in the snacks, I gotta believe that she’s pretty powerful on the bike. If she can do three sets of, to 20 toes to bar on Broken, you know, she just got a shot that,

Sevan Matossian (06:08):

Is that the blue-haired girl?

Brian Spin (06:10):

No, that’s Amanda Fisher.

Sevan Matossian (06:12):

Okay. And oh, and she’s down there and, uh, where is she? Oh, and she’s currently a knife because

Brian Spin (06:18):

She was purple or blue. There’s another one with Blue that’s Samantha Pugh.

John Young (06:22):

It is funny though, uh, the, uh, top three correlate so poorly in the run.

Sevan Matossian (06:30):

Oh, you mean in terms of They did so good on the strength and then shit to bed at the end.

Brian Spin (06:35):


Sevan Matossian (06:36):

Uh, not surprising though, right?

John Young (06:38):

It’s just funny that they’re all like, it’s three of them at the top. Typically you’d see, you know, like Danielle, Brandon, and or Paige Powers, like, they’re up there too. But typically you’d see somebody that is, you know, well-rounded or gonna go to the games up there at the top too. But it’s, I mean, it’s three people <laugh> that we’re all really bad at running <laugh>. We’re really good at snatching.

Sevan Matossian (07:00):

You know, what’s interesting is you look at the body shapes, the, the physiques of, uh, the athletes b both in the men and the women who are in the first heat versus, uh, you, you know, the, the heat, the heats that go first versus the heats that go to the end. You see that the, the bodies seem, uh, I don’t know, either more dialed in or more adapted to the sport. But even in the big picture, you look at basketball players who played basketball 30 years ago versus their bodies today, right? And these guys are like more jacked. And now you’re, I, I wonder if we’re seeing the whole body physique composition of what makes an elite CrossFitter change. Also, the men and women just see everyone seems just a little bit bigger this year. Do you guys see that?

John Young (07:42):

Nah, I don’t, I don’t know. They probably got stats and height and weight. Ryan, do you know those stats offhand of the semifinalists, who maybe

Sevan Matossian (07:49):

Everyone, everyone just looks broader to me a little, and I’m finally, I’m seeing it in the women finally this year, like broader in the shoulders. I

Brian Spin (07:56):

Think that’s just the progression. I don’t think it’s anything that’s just all of a sudden popped up, but I think if you just look at the years, um, yeah, I mean, I think the women definitely have had more room to improve and, and grow in that way over the years compared to the men.

Sevan Matossian (08:12):

Yeah. Okay. Uh, Paige Powers, uh, a fourth and an eighth. Uh, and those are the kind of numbers you wanna see, right? Mm-hmm. <affirmative> from someone who’s going to the, uh, CrossFit games. She gonna be top 10 at the games.

John Young (08:23):

I think she’s got a shot.

Sevan Matossian (08:24):

Yeah. Uh,

Brian Spin (08:25):

Maybe, maybe I don’t, I I still wanna see her do better on the, on the longer running.

John Young (08:30):

It’s within her, um, it’s within a possibility.

Sevan Matossian (08:34):

Uh, Daniel, Brandon, a sixth and a third, uh, what we expect, right?

John Young (08:38):

Yes. She probably did the best out of everybody on these. Um, Emma Lawson seventh and fourth. Uh, she’s right there with her. Those two, I think did the best as far as those two, both of those tests.

Sevan Matossian (08:51):

Uh, and Amanda Barnhardt, uh, did quite well also in eighth and the seventh. Mm-hmm. And, and, uh, is it surprising to see that she did, wouldn’t you think it would be the other way around a seventh and an eighth?

John Young (09:02):

Uh, yeah. Yeah. I mean, she’s always been able to cycle power, uh, either power cleans or power snatches very, very fast. Like noticeably faster than the field. Tola Tola is also like this, like the way they cycle is just faster. Um, if you ever watch her cycle thrusters, she’s really, really fast if she has to sprint. Um, but yeah, I mean, this is all about the run and she got seventh place, like i’s just attribute to what she’s been doing in training.

Sevan Matossian (09:31):

Uh, Emma Carey, uh, 10th and a second, um, I think she, what’s interesting is I think she will, uh, get stronger. She is so young, and what’s incredible is that she did take second on the run. I, I don’t think anyone would’ve expected that, right? I mean, top five, but no one expected second behind. I mean, if Sydnee wasn’t there, she’d have won that. Yeah.

John Young (09:51):

And Sid’s a specialist in this, in that particular event. That’s what she did in college, was ran 800 meters.

Sevan Matossian (10:00):

I, I did, go ahead. I think

Brian Spin (10:02):

Carrie, I think Emma surprised herself at how well she did.

Sevan Matossian (10:06):

She was pushing it at the end. Did you guys see it on the runner? I mean, she was going, she was emptying the tank. Yeah. Uh, she was, she like, you could see her literally physically look like she was breaking down. You know, I, I gotta say it, it is a shame we didn’t, we’re not getting to see, uh, um, uh, mal here it is. It is what, what a bummer. It would be fun to see her go, uh, head-to-head against Emma Carey. I hope we still get to see that someday in the future. Uh, Emma’s Emma’s the real deal, man. Fifth, second 10th. 10th second.

John Young (10:33):

She’s in first place right now.

Sevan Matossian (10:36):

A absolutely nuts. Yeah. Uh, did, did anyone pick her in our group, uh, to win the whole thing? We do. We got people who picked her.

Brian Spin (10:43):

Uh, I think I might have after

John Young (10:46):

To win the whole thing. I don’t, yeah, I don’t

Sevan Matossian (10:49):

Top three for sure. I’m sure she, I’m sure I heard her name tossed around in the top three,

John Young (10:53):

Because at that, at that time, we were all saying Mal

Brian Spin (10:56):

Well after you, after you take Mal out.

John Young (10:58):

Yeah. I think he had ary second. Okay. I think he had ary second. I had Emma lost in second, and I think I had ary third.

Sevan Matossian (11:05):

Uh, you know, what I was thinking also is, um, I, I know she trains over there at Brute, but after that, uh, that, that busting out the scripture, uh, I was like, man, maybe we’re looking at a future mayhem athlete.

John Young (11:17):

Mm. I don’t know about that.

Sevan Matossian (11:20):

You think she’s happy there at Brute?

John Young (11:22):

I, I do. I think, uh, for her to get hurt the way she did, and then take a year off in rehab, how she rehab and then come back and, you know, like, let’s say she wins this or gets second, and let’s just say she gets top 10 at the games. That’s, that creates a very close bond between coach and athlete. I can’t see somebody just jumping ship.

Sevan Matossian (11:43):

And, you know, it’s funny you say that. I suspect that Matt Torres is, uh, extremely hands-on and, uh, dials stuff, uh, up and down for his athletes and gives her the attention, especially like you were just saying, you brought up a really good point. The fact that she was injured and that she was probably, uh, the way Danielle, Brandon made it sound there is that they cater to each athlete. So

Brian Spin (12:03):

Yeah, he does, he does individualized programming for all of ’em. They’re, they’re only doing the same workout maybe once a week.

Sevan Matossian (12:10):

Um, okay. Uh, scroll down just a little bit more.

Brian Spin (12:15):

Oh, by the way, I did have Emma Carey winning the whole thing, but, uh, I did have Brooke Wells in second, so I get one outta twos. Not bad.

Sevan Matossian (12:23):

Yeah, no, not bad at all. Good job. Uh, keep going. Uh, what, what are we organized by for? Okay, let’s organize by the, oh, Feasta Coffee. Let’s take a quick look at her. A 20th and 23rd. Uh, go ahead, Caleb.

Caleb Beaver (12:33):

It’s organized by the first part of

John Young (12:35):

That event. Okay. The Max snatch.

Caleb Beaver (12:37):

The Max Snatch. And then the next column over the very last column is the time on the 800.

Sevan Matossian (12:44):

Okay. Oh, perfect. Okay. Thank you. Uh, FEFI, uh, ooh. So with the 20th and 23rd, she’s, uh, seventh. Overall, she’s got one more

John Young (12:53):

Day. Yeah. She had a bit of a, a good gap, good little leeway to, to have these performances here. And I think she’s happy with this. She didn’t bomb. Um, I mean, 20th at, uh, 56 places. Like, I think she’ll take that on a snatch all day. And then the, and the gymnastics event tomorrow. She should absolutely destroy. I almost think like B’S good to go. I don’t think she, I think she’s gonna make it. No problem.

Sevan Matossian (13:19):

Awesome. Good to hear that. That’ll be fun. I wonder if she can become more of a crowd favorite. I, I think the people will really embrace her as they get to know her. What about, what about Shelby Neil 17th?

Brian Spin (13:31):

Uh, rope climbs are tomorrow. I think

John Young (13:33):

She’s, yeah. Tomorrow will be the, the event. I don’t think she’s done. It’s four rope climbs. Brian. Geez. Chill. Ow. I, I, uh,

Sevan Matossian (13:42):

I five two

John Young (13:44):

Tomorrow will be the event to tell if she’s going to make it. If she, if she gets 30th place in that event, then she’s not gonna make it. If she gets 20th and then sells her soul and gets third on the last event, then she can make it.

Sevan Matossian (13:58):

What was this workout that she got 42nd on? That was Linda.

Brian Spin (14:02):


Sevan Matossian (14:02):

Oh man.

John Young (14:05):

So she probably had a Brooke Wells light meltdown.

Sevan Matossian (14:08):

Alright. Uh, let’s keep going down. Go down the list here. We may not even need to look at the next, uh, group. Okay. Uh, Brooke Wells, a 26th and a 12th Overall, 21st. Uh, still, still within striking, or no?

Brian Spin (14:25):

I don’t think so.

John Young (14:27):

How many points is she behind Shelby Neal? Because I just said she had a shot. <laugh>

Brian Spin (14:31):

So well, hers, Sidney is in 11th right now with 280 points.

John Young (14:36):

Can we go by leaderboard like the, uh, total leaderboard if we’re gonna,

Sevan Matossian (14:39):

Sure. Let’s do it. Wait, before you do that, scroll down all the way to the bottom. I wanna see who did the worst in this event. Who had, who had the

Brian Spin (14:52):


Sevan Matossian (14:52):

Two. Wanna see if I, if I can, uh, snatch more than them? No. All right. Fuck you.

John Young (14:56):

No, <laugh>.

Sevan Matossian (14:57):

Uh, oh, wait, wait. One more. Oh, no. Damn it. Okay. Well, good job, Madeline. Five, three. I’m taller than you. How’s that <laugh>? Alright, uh, go ahead and stack these up by, uh, ranking. Um, and, uh, and let’s see, uh, where we, let’s go down to 11th place. I think that’s where Sydney is. We wanted to take a peek at Sydney. Sydney is, uh, got a 34th and a first. Ooh. That first really helped her. And how many do they take? They take 11.

Brian Spin (15:31):

Yeah. For the women.

Sevan Matossian (15:33):

Oh my goodness. And how, uh, Paige Menes two points above her. And who’s, who’s, who’s below her, uh, Ash Ashley, uh, wane. Wow. Oh my goodness. And, uh, Napoleon. Wow. And, you know, Prevo is gonna come hard. My goodness. Keep going. Tomorrow’s gonna be nuts.

John Young (15:50):

Geez. Look how much people are up. Oh my gosh. The two look at all range is ridiculous.

Sevan Matossian (15:55):

The, which range?

John Young (15:57):

Um, 2, 2 22, 2 20 to two 30. There’s a lot of people. Yeah, I’m gonna say, so 23rd, 11 through 23rd. I think anything can happen, like, as far as that 11th spot, like there are people would have to bomb that are at the top of this list. But weirder things have happened before. Um, it’s like, uh, Sydney, Ashley, Paige, SHA Menza, you know, one of those three really, really bombs in the next two events. And, and anybody up through 23rd just has the greatest day then, um, they can get in. That’s what it would have to take.

Sevan Matossian (16:40):

Uh, I, I, I can’t be Mr Bun anymore. I, I tied it down low so you guys couldn’t see it. So stop with the bun comments. That, that one, that one shook me. No more bun comments. I’m hiding my bun. Well, at least till tomorrow. Uh, okay. Uh, Jessica Schwartz, uh, 28 out. Let’s keep going. Let’s see. Any, any, any big dogs? Completely out of the game.

Brian Spin (17:05):

Not on the women’s side.

Sevan Matossian (17:08):

All right. All

Brian Spin (17:12):

Right. No, I, I, I think, I mean, John, yes. I think there’s a chance that if you are down there in the 220 point range, you have a chance, but I think it’s gonna require two top six or seven spot, uh, finishes to, to get a shot at it. And, and you’ll need each of those people above you to, to have some a, a bad event. So, uh, just doing well on your own is not gonna, not gonna be enough.

Sevan Matossian (17:40):

Any girls pulling

John Young (17:40):

In. No, I agree. But I don’t put that at up for the realm of possibility.

Sevan Matossian (17:44):

A a any ladies pull out? No, not yet. Okay. Good. Uh, over on the, uh, men’s side, uh, Saxon Pank, uh, pulled out sounds like, uh, it was for medical reasons. Um, it sounds like, uh, Justin Berg did send out an explanation to the media about what the rules are regarding, um, explaining what happened to Toron. But I, he didn’t talk about specifically, I just looked at it briefly. Uh, did you take a look at that Suza or, or Caleb? Oh, you did look at it. Caleb. Caleb. It didn’t, it doesn’t talk about it specifically about Corona. It just says basically that if athletes are injured, um, and that they’re, they’re concerned the injury could get worse. They, they could, uh, make the call to pull the athlete out, correct?

Caleb Beaver (18:31):

Yeah, it listed the two of them athletes who had been removed, but it didn’t discuss like why, really? It was just like if they didn’t make an effort.

Sevan Matossian (18:40):

But according to Karen’s post, they pulled him out because he didn’t, not because he was injured and they were concerned that he would injure himself more, but they pulled him out cuz he didn’t try hard enough on the previous workout.

Brian Spin (18:50):

And they, they kind alluded that to the very end. I mean, they did say that to make a fair competition where all the athletes are performing the same test on the same conditions and experience in the same accumulated effect. Athletes who are injured and cannot form one test will be allowed to advance in the competition, may not be allowed to be advanced in the competition.

Sevan Matossian (19:10):

So Yeah, may, may not.

Brian Spin (19:12):

May not. Yeah. So basically you’re saying that, well, he didn’t, he didn’t work hard enough. He didn’t, you know, have as much fatigue by trying to do all the muscle ups that we’re gonna stop you guys.

John Young (19:22):

So then Sidney wells needs to be eliminated from the competition because she couldn’t do the ring muscle up and she should just try harder.

Sevan Matossian (19:32):

I <laugh>, I I does, does anyone think that it was right to pull Corona out? I I mean, I don’t, I I could see pulling him out if like, Hey, he’s gonna hurt himself, but just based on the fact that he didn’t try. Does anyone think that that’s, um, a valid reason to pull him out?

Brian Spin (19:45):

I think it’s terrible. And, and Corby Fox all had the same thing. He also posted, um, sim almost identical, uh, to, to Alex. Um, he, he thought he was gonna go out. He was told he could go back out. And then minutes before he’s up onto the floor. He got, he got pulled, so happened to two athletes

Sevan Matossian (20:03):

And, and so sorry. And what was wrong with him?

Brian Spin (20:06):

He had the same issue. He, he, I think he hurt himself on the ring complex. And that’s where, uh, shoulder,

Sevan Matossian (20:12):


Brian Spin (20:12):

Shoulder? Yeah, I think so. Yeah. The medical was, was talking to him and he asked, can I continue to go on the future? And they said yes. And, uh, yeah.

Sevan Matossian (20:23):

Um, uh, Josh, uh, can we put Caleb on the big picture and John Young in the small window? No, no, no.

Caleb Beaver (20:30):

You don’t have see this face in the big picture?

Sevan Matossian (20:32):

No. But, uh, thank you for, uh, trying, man, John, people just love you. I know, man. They, they absolutely love you. It’s, I

John Young (20:39):

Prefer the Goonies comment to that one.

Sevan Matossian (20:42):

<laugh>. Oh, Jesus. Ouch, Caleb. Oh my goodness. Yikes. Uh, b buttery bubbles. Uh, everyone in CrossFit is too nice. They should have, should have asked Matt about Mal. Well, I’m guessing when he came on there, there was, that was, uh, um, that was, uh, that was talked about. I’m, I’m assuming Matt, they said to Matt, Hey, we are not gonna ask you about Mal. I, I’m what? I have to guess, uh, Barry Macer, uh, John is not gay. I don’t think anyone was asking, but that’s really nice of you to, uh, um,

John Young (21:17):

Appreciate that Barry.

Sevan Matossian (21:18):

God, people love you, John. Uh, okay. Uh, Dick butter agrees, uh, which is just always weird that, um, uh, when you agree with the dick, I guaranteed Matt said no mal questions. Yeah, I, I agree. Uh, Joel, uh, Farlow ran in lifters and hit a 300 pound snatch. My goodness. Look at, you look like Jason Kbo before he did CrossFit. Um, let’s, uh, let’s pull up the men’s. Um, thank you for the money, Joel. Let’s pull up the men’s, uh, leaderboard. Uh, so we said Saxon is out. Uh, we, uh, the foxhole guy, uh, is out. Um, and, uh, really, really quick, one quick thing. Sorry, before we go to the men, anyone surprised that, uh, Lawson hit 180 5?

John Young (22:04):

1 95.

Sevan Matossian (22:05):

1 95? Anyone surprised she hit 1 95?

John Young (22:09):

Or did she, did she miss 1 95 or did she hit 1 95? I know she tried it.

Brian Spin (22:14):

I can’t remember. But either way. I mean, I think

John Young (22:16):

No, he’s freaking

Brian Spin (22:17):

Bodes well for her. It bodes well for her going into the games. The strength that she, she needs

Sevan Matossian (22:23):

1 95. She got it. It took six with 1 95.

John Young (22:26):

Yeah. Like, she doesn’t look strong, but she’s really strong. Emma Austin is, is the next thing. I’m <laugh>. I won’t be shocked if she gets second at the games this year.

Sevan Matossian (22:41):

Hey, listen to who she’s with here, guys. Uh, Danielle Brandon, 1 95. Emma Lawson, 1 95, Amanda Barnhardt, 1 95, uh, Jessica and Andros 1 95. What about this? How much of that is the, is the playing field leveled because of the heart rate?

John Young (22:59):

Meaning I I’m just a max. Snatch me.

Sevan Matossian (23:01):

Yeah. Yeah. Meaning, um, if it wasn’t, if, if they didn’t have the run, would Amanda Barnhardt put on 15 more pounds and Emma Lawson would not have?

John Young (23:09):

I don’t, I don’t think so. Just because I did this event and, um, they’re fitter than I am and it didn’t affect me. So just, just from personal experience, I don’t think that affected it at all.

Brian Spin (23:21):

No. I think if, I think if you gave ’em six minutes and just said you have six minutes to do it, the

John Young (23:27):

Same people would

Brian Spin (23:28):

Attempt want it would’ve been the same. Maybe a few extra pounds. But if any other one wreck Max, you’re gonna get three attempts. You know, depending on how they do it, you’re gonna see about the same,

Sevan Matossian (23:38):

Uh, uh, Lawson has been slipped on somehow. Uh, Michael Marlow. I don’t think that’s true, but I feel your sentiment. It’s just, it’s hard to remember that she wore the leaders jersey at the games last year, right?

Brian Spin (23:49):

Yeah. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>.

Sevan Matossian (23:50):

And maybe she was even in first place up until like the seventh event or something crazy like that. Am I, am I off my rocker?

Brian Spin (23:59):

I think she was. It was

John Young (24:00):

Pretty, pretty, yeah. Cause she had the jump rope mish, and that took her longer than usual to get the leader jersey. Wait till, uh, this next morning’s event she’s going to crush, uh, the next event. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>.

Sevan Matossian (24:14):

Okay. We’ll get to that soon. Uh, back to the Boys, um, a little preview of what’s gonna happen in the show, John’s opinion coming up in the next 15 minutes. Uh, Jeffrey Adler, a a 10th and a four, a first kind of a little bit of a surprise, right? That Adler took first.

John Young (24:33):


Sevan Matossian (24:34):

He’s, he really, he’s the strong guy. He’s not the runner, is he?

John Young (24:37):

Yeah, you should have, I mean, did you watch him at Rogue?

Sevan Matossian (24:40):

I, I don’t remember. Refresh

John Young (24:42):

Me, I, he beat Ricky Ard in the trail run on with a rock. Okay. Um, I, I used to think like running was a weakness for Jeff, and he has cleared it up really, really nicely. Um, he’s a, a very good runner. I wouldn’t put him in like the top tier runners like Ricky and Lazar, but he’s right behind them. He’s a very good runner.

Sevan Matossian (25:05):

And then, uh, Jason Hopper, uh, a first and a a 12th 305 pounds. Uh, are you guys surprised that 305 was enough to take?

John Young (25:18):

Um, that’s about where I thought it was going to be.

Brian Spin (25:21):


Sevan Matossian (25:23):

He said, I think he said it was his pr. Matt said it was his pr, but Jason made that look truly effortless, right? Yeah, I’m, I mean, I’m not even with not even a little bit of exaggeration or hyperbole, it looked like he had done that 20 times before.

John Young (25:35):

No, he needs to max it out properly if he’s never, if that was his pr like take his time and just see what he can do.

Sevan Matossian (25:43):

Yeah. Yes. Uh, straight freakish. Um, and, uh, Dolan Pepper, uh, a seventh and a ninth, uh, sort of, you know, I mean, is this the best? Has Dolan Pepper ever been finished? Uh, an event this big in third place?

John Young (25:59):

Um, I don’t think so. Waap Polooza was his best, his best event. What did he finish in Waap Puso last year?

Brian Spin (26:09):

Uh, I don’t know how he, where he, I don’t know where he finished, honestly.

Sevan Matossian (26:15):

Is Brian always re about that? As Brian always reminds me, there’s can only be so many guys at the top. I’ll be like, wait, how can Emma Lawson not be top five at the games or something? And he’ll be like, well dude, there can only be so many at the top. And it’s like, here we go. And they’ve done it. Jason Hopper down Pepper have pushed out, basically, uh, Roman Koff and, uh, I, I guess Roman, they pushed Roman down. Roman’s now sitting and forth. Who would’ve thought, you think Roman’s gonna make it and the, uh, get pushed down even further? You think he’s gonna, uh, you think he’s gonna finish ahead of Dolan and Jason after tomorrow?

John Young (26:48):

I think he’ll be ahead of Dolan. I don’t think he’ll catch Jason. Ja, Jason has looked the most impressive in this whole entire competition as far as just what I expected of people and what they’re doing.

Brian Spin (27:00):

Yeah. Ja, I’m really impressed by

John Young (27:02):

Jason. I’m excited to watch him at the games. Uh, like what he’s, I mean he’s what, how many is, how much is he behind Adler?

Sevan Matossian (27:12):

Uh, 4 49 and 4 34, like 15 points maybe.

John Young (27:16):

So, I mean, the next event will tell me a lot about Jason because that’s what, uh, he struggles the most with. Um, same with Roman. I mean, I think Roman’s gonna be fine in that event, but, uh, same with Dolan. The next event is the event. Both of those guys, you wouldn’t think they would finish at the top on those events. So it’ll be fun to see how they compare on that one.

Sevan Matossian (27:41):

Here’s what’s interesting. Tell me if I’m, if you guys agree with this psychology behind this. Uh, uh, if, if Dolan finishes third, I think he goes into the games thinking, shit, I can win the CrossFit games. Sam, well, he needs to beat Roman Sam. Well, if he, if Sam well beats Roman here, he thinks, then he goes into the games thinking, I can win the games. If Roman doesn’t, if Roman ends up taking fifth here, he still thinks he can win the games, right? For Roman it would just be, oh, it was a hiccup. It wasn’t enough events. He’ll have some sort of story. But for Sam, well, and, and, and Dolan and Jason, this is, uh, this is huge, right? Jeffrey Adler already knows, right?

Brian Spin (28:19):

Yeah. I mean, I think this, the way it’s shaping up is, I mean, this is gonna be a large percentage of the top five six at the games throw in Maderas and Pat. I think that’s maybe

John Young (28:34):


Brian Spin (28:36):

No, no, no.

John Young (28:38):

Oh, he, Brian hates Brent Bikowski.

Brian Spin (28:40):

Yeah. Jesus. I don’t hate Brent. I just don’t think he’s got top five six at the games.

Sevan Matossian (28:45):

He’s retired. He’s retired in two greener pastures, uh, Mr. Young and, uh, and, and what’s Mil will mo add if will mo add, uh, finishes here? He’s gonna have delusions of grandeur. He also is gonna think he can make the podium at the games.

Brian Spin (29:00):

He was close in 2019 until he pulled his hammy.

Sevan Matossian (29:03):

My goodness. The

John Young (29:04):


Sevan Matossian (29:05):

Dude, he’s gonna th go

Brian Spin (29:07):

Ahead. He was, he was, I mean, he was like third or fourth in, into the zigzag sprint and then pulled his hammy and

John Young (29:13):

Six events. He was third or fourth, the, the 15 events after that. He is not going to be No, I know you love Will Moad, but

Brian Spin (29:22):

I, I mean

John Young (29:23):

Will will Moad. I, man, he does so good at this part of the competition and then in the games, he just always lets you down. If

Brian Spin (29:32):

He can be healthy, he, he will surprise people.

Sevan Matossian (29:37):

Uh, glee unpopular opinion. But Justin isn’t great for the sport. He has done an amazing job of limiting weaknesses, but nothing stands out and it’s hard to watch a weekend of him feel like he’s the best Jesus crime last for me, do pepper’s The opposite of what the d e i council wanted. I, I agree. Um, uh, Savon, uh, time to have Hopper on the podcast. Uh, Cole s uh, don’t tell me what to do.

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