Dave Castro Live in Studio

Dave Castro (00:00):

Step on your screen. I

Sevan Matossian (00:01):

Just had that live. Is that all right? To put live? Yeah. You said I don’t bring Bam. We’re live. You said I don’t bring the heat, so I’m coming at you hard. Put your shit right on the spot. We’re probably going to start very quickly with Joe. I’m going to ambush Dave. Dave’s not ready. Standby. Who’s that? Oh, look, we have an issue. Do you see what’s going on? Oh, there we go.

Dave Castro (00:19):

It’s lag.

Sevan Matossian (00:21):

Yeah, we’ll figure it out guys. What’s up? First time in the studio, second time. First time. First time with this studio. Dave was in here. Hey, could you lower your phone, Dave? Checking off.

Dave Castro (00:33):

Checking off from Instagram.

Sevan Matossian (00:34):

The first time with Dave was in here. It was a completely separate studio. It was just two of us in a room together with a small computer, and now we got a whole fat studio set up. This is

Dave Castro (00:46):


Sevan Matossian (00:47):

You like it?

Dave Castro (00:47):

So check it out. Rookie move. You see those little things that they have? The little circle. You need one of those. The little black screen?

Sevan Matossian (00:54):

Yeah, yeah,

Dave Castro (00:55):

Yeah. You don’t have those. Everyone who’s serious has those. Okay. And also it’s really fucking hot in here. You’ve done a really good job improving on the recommendations I gave you last time or making the improvements. It’s a much better layout. No, not that. I’ll try that, but not that you know what I’m talking about. Oh, that’s cool. But I mean the little black circle disc that

Sevan Matossian (01:25):

Oh, oh, the right, right. Okay. Okay.

Dave Castro (01:29):

Upgrade. Upgrade.

Sevan Matossian (01:31):

And that’s just for kind of to make it look like

Dave Castro (01:35):

Visual. What I’m, yeah. It makes you look a little more professional. Like, okay, know

Sevan Matossian (01:38):

What I’m doing?

Dave Castro (01:39):

Yeah, exactly.

Sevan Matossian (01:40):

You like the intimacy of this?

Dave Castro (01:41):

I do. I like that. I can see this time, last time you had a computer screen blocking you and we were in the same room, but yet I still felt like we weren’t in the same room.

Sevan Matossian (01:49):

And what about the height that that couch sinks low? And I swear to you, if you don’t like that couch, I’ll replace it. If you’re okay with it, I’m keeping it.

Dave Castro (01:57):

No, I like it because I like to sink low and just chill, so I like

Sevan Matossian (02:00):

It. Yeah.

Dave Castro (02:01):

This is my jam. I don’t know about the pattern of the couch. You get this at the local

Sevan Matossian (02:07):

Thrift store. Hey. Hey. My mom gave that to me.

Dave Castro (02:10):

Okay. I’m not going to get bedbugs and shit.

Sevan Matossian (02:13):

Maybe. Maybe I want to start with some gifts for you. First. We have from indicate knew you were coming into the house and so they’ve made you this. Oh, that’s nice. Yeah, it is nice. Right? That’s

Dave Castro (02:24):

Super cool.

Sevan Matossian (02:24):


Dave Castro (02:27):

Thanks a lot. Indicate that’s clean.

Sevan Matossian (02:29):

Yeah. And you’ll use that, right?

Dave Castro (02:30):

We should do a CoLab CoLab. There you go. There you go. Yeah. Yeah. I’ll use it. Of course.

Sevan Matossian (02:37):

Hey wa,

Dave Castro (02:37):

There’s a delay.

Sevan Matossian (02:39):

Yeah, there is a delay. We’re working on a few things. I didn’t even think about this. A WA zombie makes these playing cards, the newest

Dave Castro (02:46):

Ones. And these all your sponsors Vindicated WA Zombie. You’re just doing this?

Sevan Matossian (02:50):

No, these guys don’t pay me at all. Okay. Well, this guy just paid me 4 99. This is Christine Cole brander. It’s WA Zombie’s newest card.

Dave Castro (03:00):

So he sent me a bunch of boxes of this stuff.

Sevan Matossian (03:02):

Okay, why not? Would you do a Dave Castro card?

Dave Castro (03:05):


Sevan Matossian (03:05):

Why not?

Dave Castro (03:06):


Sevan Matossian (03:06):

How about a ranch card? A location card? The ranch and a Madison card. And a Carson card. And a Dickies card.

Dave Castro (03:14):

I would entertain that.

Sevan Matossian (03:15):

You’re not supposed to touch the card. That’s not the way it’s supposed.

Dave Castro (03:22):

This isn’t like a Jose Conseco rookie card. You know what I mean? It’s the

Sevan Matossian (03:26):

Way it’s supposed to go down. My goodness. There you go. Thank you. Christine. Coleen, Brandner, leaves and gentlemen on the new card. And then also I’d like to plug the olive oil.

Dave Castro (03:41):

Thank you.

Sevan Matossian (03:41):

Yeah, Haley used olive oil. The bottle’s so small that she used all the oil in one meal.

Dave Castro (03:49):


Sevan Matossian (03:49):


Dave Castro (03:50):

Well she cooked with it.

Sevan Matossian (03:52):

Or maybe two meals.

Dave Castro (03:54):

It’s that one’s a 300 milliliter, I think.

Sevan Matossian (03:56):

And then I had her clean it off and fill it up with water

Dave Castro (04:00):

And then recap it.

Sevan Matossian (04:01):

Yeah, kind of

Dave Castro (04:02):

Smart. Smart. Very cool. Thank you.

Sevan Matossian (04:05):

Hey, you don’t follow anyone on your Instagram, right?

Dave Castro (04:08):

On my big one? No.

Sevan Matossian (04:09):

Okay. I want to make it argument for you to follow someone for the next 21 days.

Dave Castro (04:15):

Who’s that?

Sevan Matossian (04:15):

His name is Joe Neils. He’s the owner of CrossFit Kenosha. And he has started a program that’s called 30 30. I’d sent you one of his videos.

Dave Castro (04:25):

Oh, you did? Yes.

Sevan Matossian (04:25):

And basically what he’s doing is he’s taking Don’s word of wanting to increase the cult to 30 million to an additional 30 million or get it to 30 million. And how he’s doing that is he’s taking, every day, he’s making the effort to go out and recruit people. And I think if you follow his Instagram account as some sort of support, it just would show tremendous support for the affiliates.

Dave Castro (04:59):

I think the effort, the thing he’s doing, I watched the video. You sent the first video

Sevan Matossian (05:03):


Dave Castro (05:04):

I watched the first half of it. How he’s going in and talking to people, telling him about CrossFit, getting them to basically sign up for a free intro on the spot. It’s pretty cool. It’s pretty aggressive. It’s pretty unique. Meaning that style where super cool. And I like what he’s doing is definitely not for everyone, right?

Sevan Matossian (05:23):

No, no,

Dave Castro (05:24):

No. I know. And I know you’re not suggesting that, nor is he. But when I saw that, I was like, that’s really cool. Good for him. I could never do something like that. Let’s try to sell in that way. Try to sell CrossFit to

Sevan Matossian (05:39):

Share his passion. He’s an apostle.

Dave Castro (05:42):

Yeah. He is spreading the word in a very powerful way that might prove to be very effective for him, and maybe he will influence others like him to give it a shot and they might have some success too.

Sevan Matossian (05:56):

And what about this idea of really getting behind him and him being the one person you follow for the remainder of his 30 day project to really be like, yo, I really like this, or do you think that so many. Do you think that even if he wanted to, that people would be like, how come he didn’t follow me? That’s not fair. He’s playing favorites and the reason, the argument to that is I think this transcends CrossFit Kenosha. I think this is on behalf of all the affiliates, on behalf of the community, he’s growing. He’s growing. People who will come into gyms.

Dave Castro (06:26):

I don’t know if my account makes that much.

Sevan Matossian (06:29):

Oh, it does.

Dave Castro (06:30):

That has that much power.

Sevan Matossian (06:31):

It’s symbolic. Nothing else. It’s symbolic.

Dave Castro (06:33):

It’s definitely symbolic. But to your point that you made a second ago, where does that end? Where does this stop every month? Am I having a different cause or a different thing I have to follow to show support? When I start saying no, I can’t say, Hey, I’ve never done this. I could say that now. Then I could say, then people would be like, well, you selected him but you didn’t select me. And it’s a snowball that’ll just start

Sevan Matossian (06:56):


Dave Castro (06:57):

In mass as it goes down the hill.

Sevan Matossian (06:58):

I don’t think you should let the haters influence you. I’m

Dave Castro (07:00):

Not letting the haters influence me. I’m letting the conversations I’ll have to have in several months with other people when I say, Hey, I don’t really want to do that again. I don’t want to do that right now, or I don’t want to do that with you. I did that. Then I have to explain myself. Did them. What if Don asked

Sevan Matossian (07:16):

With what if it wasn’t just some chump down the street with a podcast in his

Dave Castro (07:20):


Sevan Matossian (07:21):

What if Don asked you?

Dave Castro (07:22):

I’d say the same thing.

Sevan Matossian (07:23):


Dave Castro (07:24):

Say the same argument that like, Hey, it’s just I don’t want to have to say no to people down the road because I said yes to one occasion now, but it is cool. I would like to help amplify him. I’d like to repost his stuff in his story. I’d like to share with my reach, my limited reach that I have. I’d like to share what he’s doing

Sevan Matossian (07:44):

So he could tag you. Yeah.

Dave Castro (07:46):

Yeah. Anyone can always tag

Sevan Matossian (07:48):


Dave Castro (07:48):


Sevan Matossian (07:48):

Okay. Tag away. Bug you

Dave Castro (07:50):

Tag me, tag me. The thing about that account, and I’m not proud of this, but I mean I was just looking at it right now. I was posting from in here and I was looking at a bunch of stuff from people, dat tags and dms, and they’re all from weeks. I hardly check it, so I miss what people are hitting me with, so I’m not on that one on a daily basis. I should. I get on it more often, but I’m on my hunting one a lot. I’m on my hunting one on a daily basis, but that one I don’t go too often.

Sevan Matossian (08:21):

It’s chaos kind of.

Dave Castro (08:23):

It’s noise. It’s loud, it’s a lot. It’s just busy. There’s so much going on. I never check the comments on that one ever at all. I hardly look at the feed. If anything I’m looking at in the dms, what I’ve been tagged in or who’s reached out to me. And then for the most part, I mean I guess I posted a few days ago. I posted the I clip from my week in review, but for the most part, I have a majority. Probably 90% of the recent posts have been done by Christine from the gates. What

Sevan Matossian (08:53):

About maybe a mention in your week in review, review? I’ll retract to that. Maybe a mention in your week review

Dave Castro (08:58):

For sure. Hold on. I’m want to do something. I want to show you something.

Sevan Matossian (09:00):

You’re going to make a note.

Dave Castro (09:02):

The app ever?

Sevan Matossian (09:04):


Dave Castro (09:05):

On your iPhone. There’s this little tasks in the iPhone

Sevan Matossian (09:09):

That’s native to the iPhone.

Dave Castro (09:11):


Sevan Matossian (09:11):

Never seen that before.

Dave Castro (09:12):

It’s great. And so I have my tasks. I have week in review, I have SAC items, I have post items, I have lecture, I have a bunch of different categories. I have books, words, stages, ammo stuff. So anyways, I have a week in review stage or a week review column, and anytime I have a thing, I want to talk about my weekend review, I put it on there. So I’ll write it on this and that way I can be sure to talk about it in my weekend. Review Kenosha Affiliate Kenosha.

Sevan Matossian (09:44):

Yeah, Joe Neals.

Dave Castro (09:46):

I’m fucking sweating.

Sevan Matossian (09:48):

Me too fucking hot in here. Hey. Hey. Today’s probably the hottest day ever at my house in the last two years, by the way too.

Dave Castro (09:54):


Sevan Matossian (09:54):

Like 87 degrees or 97 degrees or whatever it’s look at. There’s just, do you want a towel? I can summons Haley to bring us towel.

Dave Castro (10:05):

No, I’m good.

Sevan Matossian (10:06):

A rag or something?

Dave Castro (10:07):

No, I’m good.

Sevan Matossian (10:07):

It’s good. It’s like a sauna.

Dave Castro (10:09):

It is like a sauna.

Sevan Matossian (10:11):


Dave Castro (10:12):

My shirt off in a minute.

Sevan Matossian (10:12):

That’s nice. You had done some other podcasts with Jocko and Mike Ritalin, and you had made some comment on those podcasts that you don’t get the hard hitting questions. You’re

Dave Castro (10:26):

Glad. I don’t think it’s Ritalin,

Sevan Matossian (10:28):

Whatever. I’m just telling you that you’re missing the point

Dave Castro (10:32):

Of what I’m saying. His name is Mike Lin. I went to Buds with him in 98 and Pat Sherwood. We were, all three of us were in the same buds. Class Buds is the SEAL training. It’s the six month course you go to when you want to become a seal. And we were all in class two 15.

Sevan Matossian (10:48):

I’m sweating so much. I feel like I’m talking to you underwater. Maybe that 90 inch TV being on doesn’t help.

Dave Castro (10:57):

Generally speaking, I think you know this, but I’m going to say it anyways. I don’t like doing podcasts and if I am going to do them, that’s kind of the reason I do the weekend review. Instead of doing my own podcast, I have just a really short overview that I can talk for 10 minutes, 20 minutes, and then just be done. I don’t have to make it this big hour thing, hour and a half engagement. I know this is your life and you do this every day, so it’s obviously different. We’re in different realms or different periods where, and you’re really good at this, and I’m not so point being, I don’t like doing them. So if I am going to do them, I’m going to do them live when possible and with people that I am really interested in helping or supporting or I think that they can help. In the Jocko case, that’s a unique opportunity because it’s Jocko and he’s so big Inland’s case. We were old teammates and wanted to help him out and go on his show and shoot the shit. I just did recently do a Zoom one with a shooting guy named Tyler Hughes. He’s a shooting coach. That one was really fun. Very little CrossFit talk. That’s not true. We talked about CrossFit. We talked about the fitness of it, but we didn’t talk about CrossFit. You talked to me about CrossFit. He talked to me about CrossFit

Sevan Matossian (12:18):

And for people who don’t know, I dunno when it was, and I think this is accurate, but Dave basically said, Hey, I’m not doing any more streaming podcast with you. And he’s basically tried to put his foot down from that from day one. That’s why the very first podcast I did with him, he came to my house and then the second one, I went out to the ranch and he’s basically said that in fairness, it’s 51% of the reason why there’s this killer studio today.

Dave Castro (12:45):

I don’t need him. I don’t feel like, I feel like there’s some people who just never say no. You see some of these guys on everything and always out there, you’re different. This is your living. But I mean, I don’t want to just feel like I always have to be relevant or to get my word out or to advance anything forward that I always have to be out there on podcasts because I don’t think I have to be. And so I don’t want to be in that position either.

Sevan Matossian (13:11):

Right. Wad zombie. Did he get all the stains out of the couch? There never any stains in that couch. It was in my mom’s law firm. Fergie shows Dave going to sell CrossFit cemetery plots at the ranch. If so, I’m in. Wow.

Dave Castro (13:26):

Ooh, that’s nuts.

Sevan Matossian (13:29):


Dave Castro (13:30):

Cross done. Email me pc@crossfitranchplots.com.

Sevan Matossian (13:37):

Have it slash lucky cameras, straps from Australia always. Thank you for your support. Love the in-person studios. Hey Dave, if you would like a custom T D C leather rifle sling, I would love to make one for you.

Dave Castro (13:57):

Where is that? I was looking at some other comments. Say that one again. I wasn’t paying

Sevan Matossian (14:00):

Attention. He wants to make a leather rifle sling for you.

Dave Castro (14:04):

Oh yeah. I’d love it. Hit me up.

Sevan Matossian (14:06):

Yeah, hit ’em up. Do you know what that is? A rifle

Dave Castro (14:10):

Ling? Yeah, a sling. It’s a leather rifle sling.

Sevan Matossian (14:12):

You use it. Do you use slings?

Dave Castro (14:13):

Yeah. Yeah, for my hunting guns.

Sevan Matossian (14:16):

Okay. Thank you for the money and interrupting the show. I love that. Thank you Jeremy World. Question for Dave. Why’d you go live on IG with a porn star today?

Dave Castro (14:30):

Who said that?

Sevan Matossian (14:31):

Jeremy Eat World. What’s he talking about?

Dave Castro (14:33):

Oh, I went live with Gabrielle Lyons this morning. She the

Sevan Matossian (14:38):

Nutrition lady, the health lady?

Dave Castro (14:39):

Yes, the nutrition lady in health lady.

Sevan Matossian (14:41):


Dave Castro (14:42):

And a good friend of ours who used to work for CrossFit, Karin Thompson. She mentioned, Hey, would you like to go on IG live with Gabrielle Lyons? And I said, sure. And I don’t know her. I don’t know Gabrielle, but decided to do that and went on this morning with her and we just shot the shit and talked about CrossFit and talked about fitness and talked about health and she has a new book coming up. So we talked about her book. Hold on, let see what the book was called.

Sevan Matossian (15:10):

This is Her Here.

Dave Castro (15:12):

Yep, that’s her. And so

Sevan Matossian (15:16):

That’s weird. I apologize. Jeremy must have had

Dave Castro (15:20):

You don’t ever apologize. The book, I think is called Forever Strong. Oh yeah, yeah. It is Forever Strong, A new science-based strategy for Aging. Well by Dr. Gabrielle Lyon.

Sevan Matossian (15:31):

Oh, alright.

Dave Castro (15:33):

It was a fun interview. Fun time.

Sevan Matossian (15:35):

I’m surprised you did that.

Dave Castro (15:37):

Did it for a friend.

Sevan Matossian (15:38):

How long were you on?

Dave Castro (15:40):

20. 25 minutes.

Sevan Matossian (15:41):


Dave Castro (15:42):

It was quick.

Sevan Matossian (15:43):


Dave Castro (15:44):

I had trouble logging on. I didn’t know how to do it.

Sevan Matossian (15:47):

I hope that so far it has been difficult for you. I noticed how much you’re sweating and I didn’t appreciate you saying it was easy to be interviewed by me. So I hope that this series of questions has been difficult for you.

Dave Castro (15:59):

They have been.

Sevan Matossian (15:59):

Okay, good. Okay. Onto more important things. I was talking on the show the other day, and I’m sure I’ve talked about this subject with you before years ago.

Dave Castro (16:16):

Oh, you are making money. Look at all those sponsors on the bottom of your screen. I’ve never watched your podcast. So

Sevan Matossian (16:20):

Those are friends.

Dave Castro (16:21):

Those aren’t friends. You’re not If they’re friends, where is this?

Sevan Matossian (16:25):

Those are

Dave Castro (16:27):

If you’re friends, where is

Sevan Matossian (16:28):

That hat Doesn’t give me money.

Dave Castro (16:30):

Yeah, those do give you

Sevan Matossian (16:31):

Money. Those are my friends that share their money with me. We’re closer friends.

Dave Castro (16:35):

Wolverine? What’s that?

Sevan Matossian (16:37):

This dude?

Dave Castro (16:38):

Oh, the The toe spacers. They hook you up.

Sevan Matossian (16:41):

Toe spacers.

Dave Castro (16:42):

You do ’em. You want

Sevan Matossian (16:43):

To put, yeah, I do want to put these on during the show.

Dave Castro (16:45):

If you put ’em on for me. California Hormones, paper, street, cafe,

Sevan Matossian (16:52):


Dave Castro (16:52):

Fit. Who’s birth fit?

Sevan Matossian (16:53):

Lindsay Lance Cantu’s. Oh,

Dave Castro (16:56):

No way.

Sevan Matossian (16:56):

Wife. Yeah.

Dave Castro (16:57):


Sevan Matossian (16:58):

Very cool. She’s about to come on the podcast, share her birth experience. I was trying to think. There’s this idea out there that I don’t want to pick on the P F A A, but there’s this idea about there how we’re going to grow CrossFit. Specifically the athletes want to grow the games, they want to make more money. Don talks about there being more opportunity and I was just thinking, and I’m like, wouldn’t the games and the opportunities for games athletes grow at the same speed as the rest of the community? If the affiliates went away, the games would go away. It would be like Florida Grid League. It would just turn into just nothing, I’m guessing. And people have these ideas, break the games off and I’m like, no, this thing is not existing without the 10,000 or 15,000 affiliates. Their energy into it. From the open to the closing ceremony one, I’m wondering if you agree with me and two, are there any athletes that exemplify this, that are like doing.com or training in an affiliate or doing The Zone are,

Dave Castro (18:05):

Oh, I got a great one. I got a great one. So first of all, agree with

Sevan Matossian (18:08):

That. People say it doesn’t exist. I

Dave Castro (18:09):

Mostly agree with you on everything you’re saying there about listen, the games aren’t going to grow independent of everything else. Growing at are points where things were growing and really good across seminars and across affiliates. The games are growing too, and to use that silly analogy, a rising tide raises all ships. Same sort of concept here. We need a really strong affiliate community. We need a really strong trainer community, community of participants, community of those engaging for the games to grow and be successful. Growing that in isolation. I think it’s possible, but to a smaller degree, the bigger we grow the base, the more all of that’s going to grow. I want share this

Sevan Matossian (18:52):

Question. Perfect. Yeah, that’s what I think the roots of the tree grow.

Dave Castro (18:54):

The roots. The roots, and honestly, they’re the most important roots. They’re the most important part of the tree. This root system that we’re talking about being the affiliates and the trainers and the coaches and what they’re doing in these 13,000 gyms. There’s 13,000 gyms around the world that are every day changing the life of a single individual, and that’s fucking powerful. You know what I mean? Like this guy here and the clients he works with Susa, he has the opportunity every day to take an individual and give them a healthier life, a happier life, maybe even a longer life. I don’t want to say for sure a longer life. I think all these studies that are based on longevity in life, I mean, we could go down a rabbit hole on how that’s just bullshit anyways. How many new clients do you get a week on average? Yeah, probably like a client a week, two clients a week. If it’s a good month, yeah. That’s amazing. Listen to that one person. If I could change the life of one person a week that comes into my gym if I was running a gym like him, that’s some pretty powerful and profound stuff, and that’s happening across 13,000 gyms around the world. So there that opportunity and turning every one of those single individuals into an ambassador for the methodology and ambassador for the lifestyle and getting their family members in.


That’s why the games exist. That’s why the games matter, and that is what will propel the games to the next level. If you just focus on the games and lose track of the community and the affiliates and that aspect of changing an individual’s life, were misguided. And what I mean by that is some of these athletes these days are, there was a phase, I’ve talked about this probably on this podcast, but I’ve talked about this in other places where early on these athletes, froning like Kpa, even Thor’s daughter, she’s still like this, but she’s kind of an outlier Now in that D regard of what I’m going to say, were all affiliate owners. They were all trainers. A lot of even those names I just mentioned there were all on seminar staff. They were really involved in the community and then maybe the post froning era into the Frazier era and into the current era.


A lot of them didn’t even come from affiliates. Majority of ’em are not trainers. Very few of them own affiliates or are trainers at affiliates and very few of them train in a box. So it’s a different thing. It’s becoming a different thing at the highest level and now that’s at the highest level. I also, it’s interesting, we look at that a lot and we talk about that a lot. Games and the highest level, but the foundation for this, and you said this, but you’re not saying it this way. The foundation for all of this and the existence of it and what’s allowed it to grow is fundamentally this community event that happens in March. So in March we have a really large online event called the Open where several hundred thousand people from the CrossFit community come together and compete of that 1.1% of them advance on to the games, obviously more advanced to the semifinals and or quarterfinals and then a very few advance to semifinals. I think we almost collectively focus too much on the smallest amount and the elite rather than continually looking at what the foundation of that is. Second point, what that all makes me think about, I got this text today.

Sevan Matossian (22:37):

I don’t think that that part’s true, by the way. I disagree with you.

Dave Castro (22:40):

On which part?

Sevan Matossian (22:40):

I don’t think we focus too much on the elite.

Dave Castro (22:42):

Oh dude, all your fucking show is talking about, dude, you do shows on a regular basis just interviewing elite athletes.

Sevan Matossian (22:50):

But I do shows with affiliates. I do do all sorts of shows.

Dave Castro (22:54):

What do you think about how much coverage do you give related to competition? Not to the elite.

Sevan Matossian (23:00):

I am just guessing

Dave Castro (23:02):


Sevan Matossian (23:04):

Oh, you mean competitors who aren’t elite competitors

Dave Castro (23:06):

Or, yeah, just like, okay, so let’s say all your competition space focus is on the elite because it’s what moves the needle for engagement. It’s the most entertaining piece, right?

Sevan Matossian (23:17):

Yeah. It’s what I’m interested in too. Am interested in.

Dave Castro (23:20):


Sevan Matossian (23:20):


Dave Castro (23:21):

But my point there is as it’s so interesting, we all kind of lose focus on the back half or the base half the beginning, the community aspect, the large amount that is the base of the pyramid for that going forward. What I mean by that, less on you just using you as you are focusing on the elite, but more on there is a missed opportunity that we need to correct and or fix and or address that gives a little more focus to the community throughout the season.

Sevan Matossian (23:59):

Give me, because I’m just making sure

Dave Castro (24:01):

I don’t have the answer, but I will say

Sevan Matossian (24:02):


Dave Castro (24:03):

More engagement opportunities for the community. Maybe it’s more in-person stuff, more virtual. We’ve done more virtual stuff in the past that hasn’t really resonated, but experimenting with touch points for not the 1% after March. So we’re engaging with the best in the world. I’m sorry, the whole community in March and April, and then when do we engage with them on a competition level again?

Sevan Matossian (24:29):

Okay. Okay.

Dave Castro (24:30):

Not again.

Sevan Matossian (24:33):

I can

Dave Castro (24:34):


Sevan Matossian (24:34):

Michael Jordan dunk a thousand times and I only want to watch the kid dunk next door one time.

Dave Castro (24:39):

But where Michael Jordan, where you’re watching Michael Jordan dunk,

Sevan Matossian (24:42):


Dave Castro (24:43):

Still several hundred thousand kids in parks shooting and playing basketball that Nike’s selling shoes to that they’re selling jerseys to that they’re working with that are playing high school basketball

Sevan Matossian (24:55):


Dave Castro (24:56):

My point is, there’s some ability to engage with our competition and our efforts that are at every level and not just the elite level.

Sevan Matossian (25:10):

Okay. Then I’ll give you the solution to that, that I think

Dave Castro (25:12):


Sevan Matossian (25:12):

I’m suggesting is the athletes need to be the ones who are engaging that part of the community. If they want to do their part, they need to be engaging that part of the community. They need to be doing stuff at local affiliates. They need to be pumping up,

Dave Castro (25:24):

Telling, we’re both sweating like a lot.

Sevan Matossian (25:26):


Dave Castro (25:26):

Not sweating. Yes you are.

Sevan Matossian (25:27):

No, no, it’s raining.

Dave Castro (25:29):

Oh, Nicole Christensen. So CrossFit Roots. You know Nicole,

Sevan Matossian (25:32):


Dave Castro (25:32):

Sent me this text today.

Sevan Matossian (25:33):

Are you allowed to share this?

Dave Castro (25:34):

I asked her. I’m like, Hey, could I share this text? I’m going on Cone’s podcast.

Sevan Matossian (25:37):


Dave Castro (25:37):

Cool. She said, sure. Excuse me.

Sevan Matossian (25:42):

You always do ask before you share a text.

Dave Castro (25:44):

Yeah, don’t you?

Sevan Matossian (25:44):

Yeah, I try to.

Dave Castro (25:45):

No you don’t.

Sevan Matossian (25:46):

Yeah, I do.

Dave Castro (25:47):

Name this CrossFit games. Athlete one does The Zone doesn’t over consume carbs. Does three X Fat two takes group classes. Four. This was her impression after being at this location and seeing him in action, immersed in his affiliate with members like he’s any other guy who’s just paying his dues. Four does 85% of main site workouts.

Sevan Matossian (26:19):

What percentage?

Dave Castro (26:21):

85% skips the pure strength days as he has a separate strength program. Five does three on one off. No, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, rest Thursday, Friday or hold on rest. Thursday, Friday, Saturday, rest Sunday. That’s what I do. I do the three on, one off, two on. She’s kind of taken a little jab at that. Maybe not a jab, but she’s pointing that out. But anyways, who’s that athlete?

Sevan Matossian (26:53):

Can I ask, do I know them?

Dave Castro (26:56):

I think so.

Sevan Matossian (26:57):

Are they an individual?

Dave Castro (26:59):


Sevan Matossian (26:59):

Individual athlete.

Dave Castro (27:00):


Sevan Matossian (27:00):

Like in the top 40 in the world, they go to the

Dave Castro (27:03):

Game. Look at, are these all the responses?

Sevan Matossian (27:05):

Oh, Adler, Ben Smith. Oh, maybe Ben Smith. Not Adler.

Dave Castro (27:11):

Ben Smith was my first choice. I said that to her and she said, no,

Sevan Matossian (27:15):

That’s a good guess. Why are they saying Adler? It’s definitely not Ad Adler. Steven Plyler. They them. God, this is a great show. Fuck. I don’t know dude.

Dave Castro (27:28):

It’s fucking Adler.

Sevan Matossian (27:30):

It is Adler.

Dave Castro (27:30):

It’s Adler. She went out there for a course. The

Sevan Matossian (27:34):

Fucking Champ.

Dave Castro (27:35):

The champ. Let’s re-say this again. So does the Zone.

Sevan Matossian (27:39):

What the fuck

Dave Castro (27:39):

Does it? And you did a podcast with him, right? And you didn’t learn any of this.

Sevan Matossian (27:43):


Dave Castro (27:44):

I contend that’s because you talk too much and you don’t listen. You don’t actually

Sevan Matossian (27:49):

Give, oh my God,

Dave Castro (27:50):

Your guests time to speak.

Sevan Matossian (27:53):

That’s not true. That’s not true. That’s not true.

Dave Castro (27:57):

Does the Zone, let’s

Sevan Matossian (27:57):

Go through this. How dare you talk. How dare you talk to me like that. The number one podcast in the space. Do you give any new feedback? That’s the same

Dave Castro (28:03):

Feedback, self-proclaimed number one podcast

Sevan Matossian (28:05):

In the same, that’s the feedback. That’s the same feedback you give every show.

Dave Castro (28:08):

One does. The Zone doesn’t over consume carbs, does three times fat. Here’s what’s really cool about that. All you young up in covers everyone who’s an aspiring athlete or an aspiring games competitor. I don’t think you have to be influenced by this significantly high carb consumption environment that is being really promoted right now amongst those athletes. So does the Zone, doesn’t over-consume carbs, does three times fat. So standard zone is 30, 40, 30, 30% protein, 30% fat, 40% carbohydrate, which is a moderate, it’s a lower than traditionally prescribed carbohydrate protocol. Even though it’s of the three macronutrients. It’s still the largest quantity, but it’s still lower than most Western diets. But he’s also doing it at three x fat. So he’s consuming a significantly higher fat diet, moderate protein, and pretty much relative to what everyone else is doing. Lower carb takes group classes. That’s cool. And does 85% of main site workouts.

Sevan Matossian (29:12):

We should call the show doing a podcast in Sauna.

Dave Castro (29:15):


Sevan Matossian (29:18):

Hey, do you like that? You

Dave Castro (29:20):

Kind of fucked this up. You didn’t test this dude,

Sevan Matossian (29:24):

It is hot today. That’s all it is. It’s just hot. It’s not like this. And it’s not like this every, I’ve been here every day. It’s not like this in the

Dave Castro (29:31):

Morning. It’s these little panels.

Sevan Matossian (29:33):

Those panels are definitely make it warmer.

Dave Castro (29:35):


Sevan Matossian (29:35):

Hey, and look it, I even have a heater in here in case it gets cold

Dave Castro (29:39):


Dave Castro (29:40):

Times today.

Sevan Matossian (29:40):

What do you think I should do to help it cool down? Just get an oscillating fan in here.

Dave Castro (29:44):

I mean, we just need to push through.

Sevan Matossian (29:46):

No, no, no. I don’t mean for us. No, no. We’re in it.

Dave Castro (29:49):

Yeah, we’re in it. How

Sevan Matossian (29:49):

Do you think I feel? I’m drinking a hot coffee. How hot is it? Tell people, what temperature do you think it is in here right now? 80, a hundred. I got you. Which woman have Hailey bring you another sparkling.

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