Dave Castro – Answers ALL 2024 CrossFit Games Questions

Sevan Matossian (00:01):

Bam. We’re live. What I think is going to happen, oh, look at that. So it’s not, I went live, but it didn’t go live on that tv. I wanted to have that TV going. So that

Dave Castro (00:14):

Is Susa managing behind the scenes. So you

Sevan Matossian (00:17):

Could, no, where is Susa? I wanted, oh, there we are. Okay, so I think I can pause this and then scroll. Okay. Look, is that too far away for the chat? Can I make that big? How do I make this chat big?

Dave Castro (00:38):

Are we live? Yeah,

Sevan Matossian (00:39):

We’re live. Hey, do you want to have a signal if I ask a question that you don’t like that you just wave me off?

Dave Castro (00:48):

You ever played blackjack?

Sevan Matossian (00:50):

Is that where you go like this?

Dave Castro (00:52):

Well, yeah, you do this. If you see me do this,

Sevan Matossian (00:58):

Then it

Dave Castro (00:59):

Is, that’s next. That’s like, give me another card, give me another question. Okay.

Sevan Matossian (01:05):

Let me zoom in a little bit so I can’t see your, okay, so if you do that now, it just barely, yeah, you got to be just sly about it

Dave Castro (01:12):

If you, but I could do it here too. What if

Sevan Matossian (01:14):

You, oh yeah, that’s good. What if you start getting fidgety and I just start going through, you have any questions really?

Dave Castro (01:19):

I’ll be clear. I’ll be clear about it.

Sevan Matossian (01:22):

Oh my God, no one thought you were going to come. I can’t even believe it.

Dave Castro (01:25):

What’s frozen up there is that us?

Sevan Matossian (01:27):

I just froze it so it wouldn’t stream. But if you wanted to look at the questions, if you just wanted, see if someone says something. Look at this, look at it. Here’s already a good one. Dave looks thick in the core.

Dave Castro (01:37):

That’s not a good, who said that? Hobart or something? No.

Sevan Matossian (01:39):

Pool boy. Pool boy. He didn’t say thick in the core. He just said, Dave looks thick. Hey, how about me? How do I look? Do I look like I’m all juiced up? You look good. I look like I’m on TRT or anything. You

Dave Castro (01:49):

Better not be, don’t admit it. The setup’s much better. Oh, this is good.

Sevan Matossian (01:55):

Now listen, I am a

Dave Castro (01:58):

So do they see me now?

Sevan Matossian (01:59):

I’m clean. Yeah. Yeah, they totally see you. I’m a clean apple,

Dave Castro (02:02):

But why is that frozen on ours?

Sevan Matossian (02:04):

Oh, do want, I can make that move.

Dave Castro (02:05):

No, I just want to just get a little,

Sevan Matossian (02:07):

The chats, all I wanted you to be able to see is the chat. Got it. And I wish I could make it bigger. I don’t know how to make it bigger. Can you see that far?

Dave Castro (02:14):

Yeah, I could use glut. Oh yeah. Someone said, Dave’s looking thick. I’ve got a sweatshirt on. Yeah, and I’ve been using creatine.

Sevan Matossian (02:22):

I am. No. Have you really?

Dave Castro (02:24):

Yeah, I just started

Sevan Matossian (02:25):

50 years old. And you just for the first

Dave Castro (02:27):

Time you left. I’m not 50 years old.

Sevan Matossian (02:28):

49 and a half. I’m

Dave Castro (02:30):

Not 49. In your

Sevan Matossian (02:31):


Dave Castro (02:31):

And in my forties. And you’ve

Sevan Matossian (02:32):

Never used creatine

Dave Castro (02:33):

Before? No. I used creatin when I was a kid in high school. And then you heard all those things about what was the retained water and what was all the things we used to hear that.

Sevan Matossian (02:42):

Yeah, I just heard retained water.

Dave Castro (02:43):

No. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I mean back then in a negative way. And so I stopped and just haven’t done it since. And then recently just talking to some CrossFitters and friends and they were talking about their creating use and how essentially you

Sevan Matossian (03:00):

Hang out with Thomas DeLauer and he’s like, listen, there’s so many studies that the PubMed says that.

Dave Castro (03:06):

So finally I said, okay, fuck it. I’ll try Creatin. It’s not like the shit you’re thinking about doing or have dabbled in. It’s not the stuff

Sevan Matossian (03:13):

That Listen, I am as a whistle. Hiller

Dave Castro (03:16):

Does. So I decided to give it a go and just started a few weeks ago.

Sevan Matossian (03:20):

How much are you taking? Do you know? Do you know?

Dave Castro (03:22):

Just the scoop. Momentous. I’m using momentous. Sent me a little package. Nice to get that little plug. Yeah. Yeah. Nice plug. Momentous.

Sevan Matossian (03:29):

Okay, so cross that off the list. Dave doesn’t think I look juiced up. And he’s not juiced up. Just creatine. What about the olive oil? I noticed you got it back in stock.

Dave Castro (03:42):

Yeah, I’m excited.

Sevan Matossian (03:43):

Why are you swiping your hand? Do you want me to stop talking about the

Dave Castro (03:45):

Olive oil? No, I didn’t say I didn’t swipe. I didn’t swipe. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Fucking, I can fucking get out of my

Sevan Matossian (03:52):

Way. Oh, look at you. Look.

Dave Castro (03:54):

Why do you think I have a backpack?

Sevan Matossian (03:55):

Look at you.

Dave Castro (03:56):

Here you go.

Sevan Matossian (03:57):

Oh shit. Wow.

Dave Castro (03:59):

That’s what happens. Everyone who buys. So I wrap it in this construction paper, put my stamp on it, and then I write in this case, thanks Savon. And then I put TDC and a little black piece of tape. Open it up. That’s the new 500 milliliter.

Sevan Matossian (04:22):

I’m having some problems with one of my friends and this might be a good gift to give to one. No,

Dave Castro (04:26):

No, no. That’s for you.

Sevan Matossian (04:27):

I know, but I’m struggling with, this is a high value item.

Dave Castro (04:31):

We’ll talk

Sevan Matossian (04:31):

After. Okay. You know her. She’s a games athlete, a hot, hot games athlete. The relationship’s struggling. I need to send her something.

Dave Castro (04:38):

Open it.

Sevan Matossian (04:39):

Okay. This is nice.

Dave Castro (04:41):

But then I have to put bubble wrap around it. So then I have to pad it and then I put it in A-U-S-P-S mail thing and ship it

Sevan Matossian (04:48):

Off. Are you foreigners? USPS is United States Parcel Service. Jesus, you’re out of the shot now. God, damnit be honest. Was child labor used to

Dave Castro (05:00):

Wrap this? No, no. I’m doing it. I shit

Sevan Matossian (05:02):


Dave Castro (05:02):

Not at this stage. I’m doing all of this. And

Sevan Matossian (05:06):

We’re cute little Mexican girls in Watsonville

Dave Castro (05:08):

Who live at Not yet at your house. Not yet. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (05:11):

Why don’t you have your daughters do it? Not

Dave Castro (05:13):

Yet. Let’s see.

Sevan Matossian (05:15):

This is cool. I want to savor it. Oh, if I had a spoon, I would drink a spoonful right now. Just keep

Dave Castro (05:24):

Going on.

Sevan Matossian (05:25):

I can take a swig right

Dave Castro (05:26):

Out. Yeah, just pound it. It’s yours. It’s like a little present.

Sevan Matossian (05:33):

That’s your handwriting.

Dave Castro (05:35):

Yes, I did that.

Sevan Matossian (05:38):

Look at, I opened it upside down. I’m going to save that. That’s going to become some sort of prop, that wrapping paper with your signature

Dave Castro (05:46):

On. Look at the front. Look at the front. Look at look. Look at the can though. Look at the can. No, you touch it. Turn around and look at it. I

Sevan Matossian (05:53):

See it.

Dave Castro (05:55):

That’s one of the defective ones. How

Sevan Matossian (05:57):

Many defective ones are there?

Dave Castro (05:58):

Just a couple. It got dented. So I can’t ship those to anyone. So I figured I’d give one to you. I was

Sevan Matossian (06:06):

Wondering why you would press me open. Can I get botulism from

Dave Castro (06:09):

No, it’s just on the external. It’s just the cans a little dented. This is going to be Dom. I’m about to do no, take a hit, drink it. How do I, okay, good fats, good quality, fat.

Sevan Matossian (06:23):

Oh shit. This is

Dave Castro (06:25):

Stupid. So that’s the thing. Several years ago, all these guys were selling. We had bridges and the good brothers, whatever they called themselves doing coffee. We had Margot doing. She was doing wine. Then we had

Sevan Matossian (06:40):

Rich Dude, this smells great.

Dave Castro (06:41):

Rich was doing fucking

Sevan Matossian (06:43):

Tobacco jerky

Dave Castro (06:45):

And all these guys had their little things.

Sevan Matossian (06:47):

I’m doing toothpaste.

Dave Castro (06:47):

You fucking have toothpaste now. And I was like, okay, nobody’s doing olive oil in our space. I’m like, I’m going to hit it. I’m going to do olive oil. It’s good, huh?

Sevan Matossian (06:57):

Oh yeah, I got to take a shit now. Oh, that’s really good.

Dave Castro (07:00):

Of course it is. That’s the point. Holy shit. And it’s extra virgin olive oil. True extra virgin olive oils. Do you know if you do a blend or a fusion, it’s no longer extra virgin olive oil. You can use extra virgin olive oil for the fusions or the blends, but it’s not once you mix it with anything. I do have a couple coming out. I have a lemon variety and a garlic. But anyways, go

Sevan Matossian (07:21):

Back. I want something spicy. How about jalapeno?

Dave Castro (07:23):

Eventually, not yet

Sevan Matossian (07:24):

A Spanish flavor to it. Mexican.

Dave Castro (07:26):

And so I was like, I’m going to do olive oil. But dude, I said that maybe even a decade ago, and I said that a really long time ago, and it just became this running joke. I’d always talk about, I’m going to launch by olive oil. I’m going to launch olive oil. Then a couple years ago when I was up here, yep, that’s the first batch. That’s when through street parking, I was like, I just need to fucking do this. I contacted a guy, local guy, 30 minutes away from the ranch and actually let me even back up. The original intent was, I’m going to grow the trees on the ranch and I’m going to do top to bottom. Well, once I looked into the trees, it takes anywhere from three to five years to get them to where they’re actually producing fruit that you can use for olive oil.


And I was like, well, that’s going to take too long. So I met up with a guy in Hollister who has a small operation. Hollister is about 30 minutes away from the ranch. And we started talking and then eventually purchased some from him and had it packaged and bottled. And so he does it completely organic. I’m getting the oil from him. He gets it milled 45 minutes away from his place, which is about 45 minutes to an hour away from the ranch. So the chain of custody, as I like to say, is all within an hour.

Sevan Matossian (08:37):

And you’re doing the driving

Dave Castro (08:40):

And I’m picking, I’m not picking it at this point, but I’m making all of that. I’m connecting all the dots and then I’m getting it packaged, purchasing all of that. And then obviously, like I said, at this point, it’s a small operation. I’m shipping everything. It’s just a little side thing for fun. It’s just all it was about, honestly was to execute on the fact that I had that idea. And so once I said I was going to do that, at some point I said, alright, stop talking about it and just do it. And so within the last year and a half I decided, okay, here, just do it. The first batch went really fast, so now I’m on the second batch. And

Sevan Matossian (09:19):

How many in the first batch?

Dave Castro (09:21):

So I purchased a 50 gallon drum.

Sevan Matossian (09:24):

Were you concerned that you were going to be stuck with 50 gallons of Yeah. Olive oil?

Dave Castro (09:28):

Yeah. Now I’ve purchased 200. I’m sorry, a hundred gallons. So I have a hundred gallons now that I’m selling. So this will last me I think for a while.

Sevan Matossian (09:38):

What’s your wife think?

Dave Castro (09:39):

She’s supportive.

Sevan Matossian (09:40):

Does she use it though? I mean, yeah, we use, she’s a cook. Yeah, I mean you have a professional kitchen in your house and so if she says it’s good, yeah,

Dave Castro (09:47):


Sevan Matossian (09:48):

I feel like my tongue’s moving around in my mouth better.

Dave Castro (09:52):

You could use that even fucking for your hands.

Sevan Matossian (09:55):

I just lud my mouth. Alright, cool. Congratulations. Thank you. The site is up.

Dave Castro (10:04):

TTDC. Merck. What’s wrong with your headset? It’s all cracked

Sevan Matossian (10:08):

And it’s just old. Just old.

Dave Castro (10:11):

Come on, get a new one.

Sevan Matossian (10:13):

I have lots of new ones, but it’s just the one I’ve always had and it’s kind of, I don’t

Dave Castro (10:16):

Know. Can they see that? Do people see that on? Does anybody else ever comment on it? KDC mercantile.com.

Sevan Matossian (10:23):

Yeah, I know how the internet works. Thanks. Appreciate it.

Dave Castro (10:27):

But I’m also going to put some other things out there soon. A little side project

Sevan Matossian (10:32):

Like salt and pepper shakers.

Dave Castro (10:33):

No better.

Sevan Matossian (10:34):

I can’t even find the fucking site.

Dave Castro (10:36):

Just put it in the actual,

Sevan Matossian (10:39):


Dave Castro (10:41):

I don’t think on Google

Sevan Matossian (10:42):

There, your SEO is like CrossFit’s. SEO. Just horrible. You guys have the same tech team. It’s not nice. Davy. You know, I’ve thought you’ve come, you’ve come to this. Is this the third time you’ve been in here? Yes. You kicked my ass last two times you’ve been in here. I was like, you know what? I’m not letting him kick my ass this

Dave Castro (10:57):

Time. The second time it was so fucking hot.

Sevan Matossian (11:00):

But you were just like, you bullied me in my own office. I was. I’m

Dave Castro (11:03):

Like couple

Sevan Matossian (11:04):

Months ago. I’m not ing that shit. This

Dave Castro (11:05):

Was like, it was last year.

Sevan Matossian (11:08):

Fuck that.

Dave Castro (11:09):


Sevan Matossian (11:10):

I’m big time. You want me to put your Instagram account? Look it. There it is.

Dave Castro (11:13):

Leather belts that I handmade from scratch. So over the past several weeks I took a hide. I have a big hide that actually, I’m pretty sure this came from Bill years ago. He gave me a big black hide from Weaver Leather. They’re one of the premier leather sources.

Sevan Matossian (11:32):

Bill Henneger, the owner of Rogue, just gave you just,

Dave Castro (11:35):

Well, at the time I was doing a lot of leather work and he,

Sevan Matossian (11:37):

He’s like, Hey, here’s a cow, but just the skin,

Dave Castro (11:40):

It’s a hides for you to do leather work. Okay. And I was doing a lot of belts and little stuff like that at the time. I actually made him a sheath for his 30 30 lever action rifle for his ranger in Austin or in Texas that he still uses. So I was doing a lot of projects for friends and stuff. So the other day we had a meeting with some of our leadership team from my training team. And I was like, when I have meetings with people in person, I like to make some sort of gift leather or sewing and to give to the crew. And I was like, I’m going to do some belts. So I took the hide, cut the hide, cut a side of it with a straight edge straight. And then

Sevan Matossian (12:24):

From that, where were you storing the hide?

Dave Castro (12:26):

In my leather sewing room.

Sevan Matossian (12:27):

And was it damaged at all the way you stor? No. Okay. And hi, just basically cows, just one of those carpets you’d see at Greg’s house. That’s cow ground. But all the hair’s taken off.

Dave Castro (12:37):

No. Yeah, exactly. Okay, okay. Okay. And then it’s probably like seven to eight ounces. That’s the size, the width.

Sevan Matossian (12:44):

You stored it in the shed where the spider bit you on the back and you almost died.

Dave Castro (12:47):

But that’s when I first

Sevan Matossian (12:49):

Moved there. I know. I’m just trying to place the

Dave Castro (12:52):

Storage since then. I’ve really cleaned it

Sevan Matossian (12:53):

Up. I know, I know. But you had this weird thing on your back.

Dave Castro (12:56):

And so I made the belt strips. I cut the belt strips, then I trimmed all the edges, then I painted all the edges, then I burnished the belts.

Sevan Matossian (13:04):

What’s burnish mean?

Dave Castro (13:05):

It’s where you basically take the edge of the leather, the unfinished leather, and you have this little machine that spins with wood and you put some substance on it and it just finishes it. It’s a finish. And then cut the template, cut the holes, constructed the balance. And I’m using titanium buckles. So I’m a big fan of titanium things. My other watch is titanium. This one’s made with titanium. I have a Damascus knife that the guys at half blade knives, half face blades made me. So titanium’s something that I really like, a metal that I like. So the belt buckles are titanium. And anyway, so from this whole hide minus the ones I gave away to my team, I have 12 belts. 12 belts that I’m going to put on the site probably in a week or so and sell.

Sevan Matossian (13:59):

They sound expensive.

Dave Castro (14:00):

They’re going to be fucking expensive. I put a lot of fucking time in them.

Sevan Matossian (14:03):

Who’s someone who has one? Do you give ’em to boys and girls?

Dave Castro (14:05):

Yes. So Sarah hopping Megan way, Joe Alexander, our leadership team that came out to San Jose a few weeks ago. EDU training leadership team.

Sevan Matossian (14:21):

They’re just belts that boys and girls can wear. Well

Dave Castro (14:24):

That’s the thing. So they’re an inch and a half and I was worried that the girls wouldn’t wear ’em, but the girls wore them and they loved them and they looked great. The belts

Sevan Matossian (14:32):

Different sizes. Like 32 inch, 36 inch fat boy,

Dave Castro (14:34):

44. Here’s thing. So here’s the thing. So it’s like 55 inches long. And how I’m going to do this is since I’m only selling 12, I’m going to post it and you’re going to select the size and I’m going to fucking cut it and film it just specifically for the size you chose. And then I’m going to email the person like, Hey, here’s me making, Hey Mike, thanks for ordering. Here’s me finishing your belt off. So basically if you order 34, then I’m going to cut it to 34 just for you.

Sevan Matossian (15:01):

Oh, that’s cool. Yeah, for an extra $50, you’ll turn the remainder part of the belt into a key chain.

Dave Castro (15:07):

Well that’s, no, it’s not actually. So this is,

Sevan Matossian (15:12):


Dave Castro (15:12):

Shit. So with a lot of the scrap, I will make these and I won’t chart. Lemme see that. And I’ll put the, you’ve got stuff like this

Sevan Matossian (15:18):

Before. Lemme see. Lemme see.

Dave Castro (15:19):

And I’ve made something like this for

Sevan Matossian (15:21):

You before. Not this nice.

Dave Castro (15:23):

And so I’m going to do that with a lot of the scrap anyways.

Sevan Matossian (15:27):

Hey, why not? And I’ll

Dave Castro (15:29):

Charge way less for those. The belts are going to be almost $200. But I’ve also, it’s a hand fucking crafted leather belt for me that’s taken several weeks of every night or every other night, spending 30 minutes to an hour and a half in my leather room working on this project.

Sevan Matossian (15:46):

The best thing you ever made was the,

Dave Castro (15:48):

See look. These are great for the gym. What’s the AirPod holder on your, yeah,

Sevan Matossian (15:51):

That’s nice.

Dave Castro (15:52):

Yeah, the

Sevan Matossian (15:53):

AirPod holder. Is that a gor? Baggy rocking?

Dave Castro (15:55):

No, this one’s actually Yeti. So Yeti. Oh,

Sevan Matossian (15:57):

You’re interrupt. No, no, no. Yeti’s. Another call. Hi.

Speaker 3 (16:02):

Hey Dave. I appreciate the intensity you put in those belts. I want one. I need you put aside

Sevan Matossian (16:08):

Please. Jethro, owner of CrossFit Achieve Nation.

Dave Castro (16:12):

Oh nice. Jetro, good to hear from you.

Sevan Matossian (16:13):

New affiliate. New affiliate.

Speaker 3 (16:16):

Thanks. Just like watches, belts. I need a really, really nice belt. I want you to put one aside from me, please.

Dave Castro (16:22):

Yeah, you’re going to dig this one. It’s got a fucking, see I should have brought one. What was I thinking? It’s got a super cool titanium

Sevan Matossian (16:27):

Belt buckle. You can come on the show again and pedal your belt.

Speaker 3 (16:32):

Black and brown or black or brown.

Dave Castro (16:34):

So that’s what I’m doing. I’m going to have limited runs this run. This first hide is all black, so the belt’s going to be black. The buckle is, hold on one

Sevan Matossian (16:45):

Second. Look it. People are into this, the video. Geez.

Dave Castro (16:48):

What video?

Sevan Matossian (16:49):

Look at Saber. Saber makes a guess. These belts will be worth more than $200 by almost 200. Dave means 199. Nine. I didn’t even hear you say did you

Dave Castro (17:01):

Number I’ve had, yeah, I said they’re going to be close to 200. I’ve had internal pressure. That 200 might be too much. I don’t think so. So,

Sevan Matossian (17:12):

Oh, those are nice. Wow. You got to back it up just a little. Yeah. Okay. Alright. Those are the ones that were given to the lads on your team. Wow.

Dave Castro (17:20):

See that? And look it. Hold on.

Sevan Matossian (17:21):

EBay. Hate to break up. You’re riveting convo. But what does Dave think about Don’s talk to Defund. The games. Jesus. Look Christ. Yeah. That’s nice. Wow. Wow. The TDC logo. Yeah, yeah,

Dave Castro (17:32):


Sevan Matossian (17:33):

Is on the buckle. And that’s a titanium

Dave Castro (17:35):

Buckle titanium.

Sevan Matossian (17:36):

Does that mean you can walk through metal detector with that? You have to take that off.

Dave Castro (17:39):

Yeah, I wear mine through the metal detector. All good. Here’s a picture of the ladies from the meeting wearing them.

Sevan Matossian (17:48):

Wow, okay. It didn’t turn ’em into dudes. That’s nice.

Dave Castro (17:53):

Alright, look at,

Sevan Matossian (17:56):

Oh, horrible question, Jeremy. You’re a douche. Okay, next question. Don was on Kettlebells and Cocktails. He didn’t say he was going to defund the games, but he did say that there would be significant cuts. I don’t even know if he used the word cuts. Have you seen it? I have not. Okay. He said I wrote it down. Lemme see if I have it.

Speaker 3 (18:19):

Se I’m going to go listen. Bye Dave. Okay, bye

Sevan Matossian (18:21):

Bye. Thank you for calling. Yeah,

Dave Castro (18:22):

Thanks for calling.

Speaker 3 (18:24):

Hold me about please, Dave.

Sevan Matossian (18:25):

I want

Dave Castro (18:25):

One. Yeah, hit me up. Hit me up on email. David crossfit.com.

Sevan Matossian (18:28):

Oh, okay. So sorry,

Dave Castro (18:29):

I didn’t want to hear. Don’t even read it. I just want to say this though. A

Sevan Matossian (18:31):

Meaningful amount of money. That’s all he said. A meaningful amount of money. They’ll be taken out of the games I think and put elsewhere. And put elsewhere to help affiliates as if the games don’t help affiliates mean words. You have to make some presuppositions there. I didn’t like it. Whatever.

Dave Castro (18:46):

So let’s say spending, I’m going to make this number up. $5 on games content. Can

Sevan Matossian (18:52):

You say 10? So it’s like a I like 10 or a hundred. It’s easier

Dave Castro (18:55):

For me. Let’s say we’re spending $5 on games content and we’re spending $1 on affiliate content and we’re spending another single dollar on EDU content over the course of the year. And then we’re going to take some of that five and maybe reduce it to two or three, let’s say three, and then make the others also two or three. I’m all about that and very supportive of that. And I think we should have a better balance of the type of messaging and content that we’re putting out there because

Sevan Matossian (19:31):

I don’t think it looks out of balance now. I don’t think it looks out of balance.

Dave Castro (19:35):

I’m not saying it’s out of balance now, I’m just saying hypothetical. In the past it has been very out of balance. Like

Sevan Matossian (19:40):

How far back 2017 or 18 when you were around. Yeah, that’s what I

Dave Castro (19:43):

Mean. Greg course corrected it by doing what he did.

Sevan Matossian (19:48):

Listen, even after, I don’t think anything’s out of balance now from the What’s forward facing

Dave Castro (19:55):

Good. That’s good.

Sevan Matossian (19:56):

I’m not inundated with content from CrossFit. I’d like to be

Dave Castro (20:00):

No, I’m not saying that. I’m saying CrossFit games specific content only.

Sevan Matossian (20:06):

Okay, we’re not done. Call her. Hi. Hello. Call her. Hello. Hello. Hey,

Dave Castro (20:13):

Who’s Larry Wills and what’s his latest video? Oh

Sevan Matossian (20:15):

Please, please do not ever address Tom Landry. Do not. I never address Tom Landry. Damn it. Tom, you won. He left that note there about Larry Wheels a thousand shows in a row. Who’s Larry Wheels? I don’t have no fucking idea. Google him. Okay, fine. Call her. Go ahead. Look with Dave here. You got what you wanted Tom? Andrew, call her. Go ahead. Why Google Tom? Oh

Speaker 3 (20:36):

Man. I

Speaker 4 (20:37):

Love CrossFit. CrossFit is like, I love the game. I’ve played it. I’ve got 220 hours in it. I love CrossFit. CrossFit all around is just really fun for me. I’m a six foot three white guy outside of Ohio and man, I just play the CrossFit games all the time. I love it.

Dave Castro (20:59):

I love CrossFit. Thank you. Thank you for this

Sevan Matossian (21:02):

What, 220 hours. Go ahead, go ahead. Crack the joke. I know there’s a punchline. Go ahead.

Speaker 4 (21:08):

No, no, there’s no joke. I’m honestly a really big fan of the CrossFit games. I have my connect set up and everything. I just got the new 2024 and everything. I love the game. Or the 2023. I had the 2023. I’m thinking about

Dave Castro (21:25):

When you say, I want to ask what you mean. What do you mean? Watching the games and stuff?

Speaker 4 (21:31):

No, I play the game.

Dave Castro (21:32):

Play. What’s the game

Speaker 4 (21:33):

You play? Play. I’m an active player.

Dave Castro (21:34):


Speaker 4 (21:36):

Yeah, it’s like some CrossFit game on the Connect. I’m insane at it. I think I could go pro.

Dave Castro (21:42):

Tell me about it. I don’t know this game you speak of.

Speaker 4 (21:46):

So there’s this, I don’t know what the game’s called. It’s an old Xbox 360 game, but I crunch it out. You got the Situps, you got pushups and everything. It had this game version for the PS three. I had that too. I have a PS three camera and everything.

Dave Castro (22:03):

I’m an amazing player player man. I haven’t gamed in a long time

Speaker 4 (22:06):


Dave Castro (22:08):


Sevan Matossian (22:09):

Larry Wheels pivoted Larry Wheel. Larry Wheels pivoted to arm wrestling I think.

Dave Castro (22:13):

Oh yeah. Didn’t Oh

Speaker 4 (22:14):

Larry Wheels. Oh actually I love Larry Wheels. I follow him on everything. Where are you? I love Larry

Sevan Matossian (22:20):

Wheels. You follow him on Xbox?

Speaker 4 (22:23):

I wish I followed them on Xbox. Imagine them kind of party chat with Larry Wheels.

Sevan Matossian (22:28):

Alright brother. Thank you. Peace. Love you Larry. Wheels. Yeah, I’ve seen this guy pivoted. So this guy’s whole story was all, he was juiced to the gills and then he got off the juice. I think he’s like in Dubai or Abu Dhabi or something and Wow. What’s this? Geez.

Dave Castro (22:45):

Can people see what you’re looking at?

Sevan Matossian (22:46):

I do. Yeah.

Dave Castro (22:48):

I don’t see what we see.

Sevan Matossian (22:50):

Oh no you don’t See, I only

Dave Castro (22:52):

See the

Sevan Matossian (22:52):

Comments. Oh, can you see it

Dave Castro (22:54):

Over here? I can see that. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (22:55):

Yeah, geez. Anyway, that’s who Larry wheels is. I’m surprised he doesn’t have any arm wrestling stuff. What’s it? 91-year-old bodybuilder. Jim Arrington. We have matching torn biceps. His is the world’s oldest. Wow. The world’s oldest torn bicep. This truly is a fitness

Dave Castro (23:18):

Dude. Jacked.

Sevan Matossian (23:19):

Yeah, he got off the juice.

Dave Castro (23:22):

He’s still jacked.

Sevan Matossian (23:24):

Excuse me. Wow. What is going on you guys? I have an interview to conduct. You can’t just be just all calling in and shit. Caller I howdy. Hey,

Dave Castro (23:34):

Do you screen these or do you know who? No,

Sevan Matossian (23:36):

No. This is Russell Berger with just called up show’s. Crazy. How’s it going? Yeah, go ahead. Good. Great. Are you asking me or Dave?

Dave Castro (23:45):

What? It’s good. It’s going good. We’re having fun. Who’s this?

Speaker 5 (23:49):

This is Matthew Hawks out of Kansas.

Dave Castro (23:51):

Oh, very cool. Is it cold out there?

Speaker 5 (23:54):

It is actually not. Is this in California? I’m be,

Dave Castro (23:57):


Speaker 5 (23:59):


Dave Castro (24:00):

What do you got? Entertain us. Say something. What do you got?

Speaker 5 (24:04):

Okay, listen, listen, listen, listen. This is game changing.

Dave Castro (24:08):

I’m listening.

Speaker 5 (24:10):

You’re going to look out into the street after this podcast is done and you’re going to be like, wow, Matthew Hawks from Kansas just changed my world view.

Dave Castro (24:22):

Go. I’m listening. And

Speaker 5 (24:23):

Here it is.

Sevan Matossian (24:24):

I can’t believe Dave hasn’t gotten up and left yet. You better hurry the fuck up.

Dave Castro (24:31):

This is why you should probably screen these guys.

Sevan Matossian (24:33):

That guy was a seal. Who the fuck’s going to screen it?

Dave Castro (24:35):

Fucking su.

Sevan Matossian (24:37):

I know. Have Avi screen it. Have your

Dave Castro (24:38):

Staff screen them.

Sevan Matossian (24:39):

No, I like it. This is everyone should call in and do their performance thing. How You

Dave Castro (24:45):

Got to steer them along quicker though. You got to get them to get to the point. That’s what I was trying to do. Because you weren’t

Sevan Matossian (24:49):

How are open signups?

Dave Castro (24:51):

They’re good. They’re doing really well. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (24:55):

When Chase had Adrian on the podcast, he said that out the gate it was the best ever better than 2018. Yep. And those things usually trend.

Dave Castro (25:08):


Sevan Matossian (25:08):

Could we see a year?

Dave Castro (25:11):

I don’t think we’ll

Sevan Matossian (25:12):

Hit. Just wait till the behind the scenes becomes live. Wait till the behind.

Dave Castro (25:16):

When does episode one go live to the public?

Sevan Matossian (25:19):

Not for a few days, five days or six days. Call or high.

Dave Castro (25:22):

So episode one goes live in five days.

Sevan Matossian (25:24):

I had, I think so you haven’t even approved episode 10 yet.

Speaker 6 (25:29):

Maybe a different event. What about a legit power lifting meet? Three lifts, squat, bench deadlift.

Dave Castro (25:41):

God, that just makes me think of the 2007 games where we had the CrossFit total and the guys running it, but not

Speaker 6 (25:49):


Dave Castro (25:49):

CrossFit total power. I know. Just let finish my story. I know, I’m just saying. Let me finish my story. When you said a legit powerlifting event, they wanted to run this like a legit weightlifting, powerlifting event with all the judges. And we had this insane schedule for Saturday or for whatever day it was to finish. We were basically going to start at eight and go to nine at night to get 60 or 50, 50 to 60 athletes through this crazy official application. And it was ridiculous. And hold on, lemme say this, but lemme say it was ridiculous. So what we did was we said, Hey, only the top 20 guys are going to go through the legit lifting and everyone else is going to go outside and they’re just going to do it CrossFit style. And they’re going to lift, they’re going to back squat and they’re going to deadlift and they’re going to press and they’re going to have one judge and no platforms. And this is oh seven. So this was the first games and the outside vibe and everything that went on there was super fucking cool. And the inside vibe, it was super competitive and it was just too much.

Sevan Matossian (26:55):

Hey, that was the fallout of you and Mark Rippetoe.

Dave Castro (26:58):

You said it.

Sevan Matossian (26:59):

2000, 2007 CrossFit Games begin. That was for you to

Dave Castro (27:04):


Sevan Matossian (27:04):

Not me, Dave and Mark Peto are fucking thick as thieves. One event. One, and that’s it. That was it. A friendship got destroyed over one event. One fucking

Dave Castro (27:16):

Event. And so when you say have a fucking power lifting competition, I go back to that period and I think of that

Sevan Matossian (27:23):

And do you know why it was destroyed? Because Mark ow. Dave doesn’t want anyone saying more than three sentences to him. Dave wants Dave, how’s the Bible reading coming? I mean, all you need to do is just have God be like, Hey, I made this shit in seven days. You’re like, good job buddy. And that would be good for

Dave Castro (27:42):

You. Dude. I just finished Book of Judge. I guess that’s what you say. And now I’m on the book of Ruth.

Sevan Matossian (27:53):

So what are the chances of this event actually going down? How close is CrossFit to doing an event where it’s just three big hit lifts will go broad.

Speaker 6 (28:00):


Dave Castro (28:01):

Feel like very low it very low. Very low. Very low, bro. Sorry. Especially with me back in,

Sevan Matossian (28:08):

Hey, lemme tell you how it could be done. Lemme tell you how it could be done. If you really want to see it, find a sponsor who will put half a million dollars behind it. Bring the sponsor to Dave. Dave will be like, alright, we’ll do it.

Speaker 6 (28:19):


Sevan Matossian (28:23):

$500,000. Get the IT

Dave Castro (28:25):

Guys. Do they test? Aren’t they all juiced up? I know people say that about our guys. No,

Speaker 6 (28:28):


Dave Castro (28:30):

Power lifting’s all juiced up. They’re all weightlifting. Powerlifting. Let me guess you’re a powerlifter.

Speaker 6 (28:38):

I used to do powerlifting and now I do CrossFit. Unaffiliated CrossFit gyms.

Dave Castro (28:45):

Very cool. Good on you. Hey, I want to ask this. I want to ask you to do this. Ready? Can you hear me? I’m ready. Okay. In your gym, really take care of people and help your affiliate owner and help your other trainers and really coach and make sure people are moving correctly because you have a vast experience with these movements. So you also, even if you’re not a trainer, take it on you to help make your fellow classmates and your trainers and your affiliate owner better at the lifts. So spread your education, spread your knowledge from your past experience as a power lifter onto them in a productive and respectful way. Can you do that?

Speaker 6 (29:27):

Of course. Yeah, of course. Yeah.

Dave Castro (29:29):

Awesome. Thank you. Alright, thanks scholar.

Sevan Matossian (29:32):

Hey, where are you calling from? Where are you calling from?

Speaker 6 (29:35):

Angleton, Texas. Shout out Backyard Gym.

Sevan Matossian (29:38):

Good voice.

Dave Castro (29:39):

Alright. Hey, so oh, if he’s at a backyard gym, everything I just said is irrelevant. All hail. Greg Abbott, you’re doing a good thing with it. All right, love you buddy. Bye. So what are people seeing? Because I don’t see what anybody’s seeing. Are they seeing me in this camera? See, just show me once. I don’t even know what’s going on. This is what people are seeing.

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