Dan Thiessen | Radix Gym | Affiliate Series & Live Call

Dan Thiessen (00:01):

Okay. Can you not hear me at all?

Sevan Matossian (00:04):

Barely, barely, barely, barely. You’re muffled. Good, good. Muffled. Well, Dan, the affiliate owner. My, there we go. Wait a second. Nope. Bad Again. While Dan works the audio, I got more details on the Paper Street coffee deal. Check this out. Buy one seven ounce bag of tea and get two more for free. Only on Black Friday. So it’s three bags of tea for the price of one. That’s only going to be for one day. It looks like that’s a crazy deal. We should try to put ’em out of business. Four different teas. Four different gourmet teas. Hey Caleb. What’s up dude? Oh, I’ll send you the notes. Caleb. Caleb, what’s that called When someone is late, but it’s just by a little bit. It’s

Caleb Beaver (01:09):

Fashionably late.

Sevan Matossian (01:10):

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I like it. You’re fashionably late. Is

Dan Thiessen (01:21):

This better? Si?

Sevan Matossian (01:23):

Yeah, I can hear you now. It’s horrible. Sounds like you’re in a tin. Can, but it’s better than it was before. Something was wrong before. Maybe there was ear wax in the mic or something. You the Caleb Dan pronounce your last name for me.

Dan Thiessen (01:55):


Sevan Matossian (01:58):

The gym is called what is it?

Dan Thiessen (02:05):


Sevan Matossian (02:05):

No way. No way, Danny. No way buddy. No way. Take your time. I can’t hear him at all. Could you hear him, Caleb? That was bad, right? It

Caleb Beaver (02:18):

Was pretty bad. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (02:20):

Talk to you tomorrow. Now you’re frozen. Now you turned into That is crazy.

Caleb Beaver (02:36):

Oh, that’s you.

Sevan Matossian (02:42):

Hey, can you hear me at all?

Dan Thiessen (02:44):

At all?

Caleb Beaver (02:46):

I can hear you reverberate. Oh, now it’s me. It’s

Sevan Matossian (02:55):

Here. How about now? Better.

Caleb Beaver (02:57):

It’s good. I think it was echoing off of his laptop or whatever computer he is using.

Sevan Matossian (03:02):

That was nuts.

Caleb Beaver (03:11):


Sevan Matossian (03:15):

I had some buttons. I just moved them around. I think Dan’s frozen again or he is pissed. Or both? Dan’s like, what the fuck is happening? Autobots

Speaker 4 (03:31):

Roll. My goodness.

Sevan Matossian (03:43):

Wow. I wish I could tell you what was going on.

Caleb Beaver (03:54):

My Might be on a really old computer or something,

Sevan Matossian (03:57):

Or pc.

Caleb Beaver (03:58):


Sevan Matossian (03:58):

I can’t hear him at all. Oh, he’s muted.

Caleb Beaver (04:00):

Oh yeah, I muted him because it was just reverberating.

Sevan Matossian (04:04):

Oh. So when he comes on, we turn into Autobots,

Caleb Beaver (04:07):

Right? Because it’s just echoing off of his computer. Dan’s

Sevan Matossian (04:11):

Really in, you think Dan’s really an ai?

Caleb Beaver (04:14):

You know what? Probably

Sevan Matossian (04:16):

Dan, do you have a phone? Maybe you could use a phone. Do you have an iPhone?

Caleb Beaver (04:21):


Sevan Matossian (04:21):

Okay. Yeah. Maybe log out of your computer suite. Look, it looks like you got a new one. Me and him have similar taste in case. Did you see that? That’s That’s a good,

Caleb Beaver (04:29):

You’ll have to use Safari, Dan

Sevan Matossian (04:31):

Safari or Chrome.

Caleb Beaver (04:33):

I don’t think Chrome will pull up a stream on there. Every time I’ve used it, it’s told me to go to Safari.

Sevan Matossian (04:38):

Oh, interesting. And on computers, it’s Chrome,

Caleb Beaver (04:41):

Right? Makes no sense.

Sevan Matossian (04:44):

You sound fine even when he’s unmuted. No, we sound like Autobots. What are you talking about?

Caleb Beaver (04:51):


Sevan Matossian (04:53):

Dude. Last night’s show was wild. That was a great show.

Caleb Beaver (04:57):

It was all over the place. It was cool though.

Sevan Matossian (05:03):

Cave Astro says on, these are not the droids you’re looking for.

Caleb Beaver (05:08):

These are not the droids you’re looking for.

Sevan Matossian (05:11):

Alright, we’ll leave a spot open. We’ll leave a spot open. Nope, we already took his spot. There was a clip I wanted to play last night. Shit. I might as well play it now from Greg’s show. Oh no. It was on the Zachary. Was it the Zachary Cadets show? Oh yeah. I was going to show you this last night because Zachary’s into movement videos. So I was going to play this. Look at this. You’re

Speaker 5 (05:44):

Going to sit in the backseat in the middle legs wide open. You are going to sit with your legs together on your partner’s lap, and then you’re going to take your elbows over the insides of the front seat to kind of pull your weight up and then you can come up and down. What’s great about this position is you can also grab the headrest, lean back and do some grinding. Or you can even lean back over one shoulder of your partner and grind like this. Your partner’s going to sit in the backseat, in the middle legs wide open. You are going to sit with your legs together on your partner’s

Sevan Matossian (06:22):

Lap. It’s crazy.

Speaker 5 (06:23):

And then you’re going to take your elbows.

Sevan Matossian (06:24):

It’s a crazy

Speaker 5 (06:25):

Over insides of the

Sevan Matossian (06:26):

What if the CrossFit games had movement standards like this, an explanation

Speaker 5 (06:31):

Need to kind of

Caleb Beaver (06:33):

Probably be way less confusing.

Sevan Matossian (06:36):

Got it. Austin Hartman, this woman needs Christ.

Caleb Beaver (06:39):

No, you need her.

Sevan Matossian (06:41):

Yeah. What do you mean? That would be, or maybe Jesus needs her. I’m going to burn in hell for that one. Hey, what’s up Dan?

Dan Thiessen (06:50):

Is this better? Savon.

Sevan Matossian (06:51):

Oh, money.

Caleb Beaver (06:53):


Dan Thiessen (06:54):

Geez. Good thing. I have a wife who understands how to work this kind of stuff.

Sevan Matossian (07:00):

Were you on a computer? What do you think? Yeah,

Dan Thiessen (07:02):

No, I have a brand new MacBook Pro, so I was ready to throw it through the window, but I think we got it figured out. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (07:09):

Too expensive to throw through the

Dan Thiessen (07:11):

Window. No, definitely too expensive. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (07:12):

Are you still on the computer now?

Dan Thiessen (07:14):

Yeah, I’m on the computer now. I just switched. It must’ve been the headphones I had in.

Sevan Matossian (07:18):

Okay, gotcha.

Dan Thiessen (07:20):

Everything’s good.

Sevan Matossian (07:21):

Okay, cool. Thank you. Hey, you own CrossFit Radio

Dan Thiessen (07:32):

Rad Gym, but it’s CrossFit. Rad,

Sevan Matossian (07:34):

Rad, rad. Yeah. Okay. I just see the X and I’m like, don’t even dare to try to say CrossFit

Dan Thiessen (07:41):


Sevan Matossian (07:42):

And that’s in Canada?

Dan Thiessen (07:44):

That’s in Canada, yeah, about 30 minutes outside of downtown Toronto, the GTA.

Sevan Matossian (07:50):

And you’ve had the affiliate for 10 years?

Dan Thiessen (07:54):

We’re eight years now. Eight year affiliate owners. My wife and I.

Sevan Matossian (07:59):

Did you guys start it from scratch or did you buy it from someone?

Dan Thiessen (08:03):

No, we started from scratch. My wife is actually like OG CrossFit, so she did her L one in California in 2008 with Dave Castro Bosman. So she is

Sevan Matossian (08:17):

Dude. Yeah, I bet you I was there at that one if it was in California in oh eight.

Dan Thiessen (08:22):

Yeah. Do

Sevan Matossian (08:23):

You remember whose gym she did it at?

Dan Thiessen (08:26):

R. What gym was that? You did your L one one World

Sevan Matossian (08:32):

Dude. I was hundred percent there

Speaker 5 (08:36):

Still T-shirt.

Sevan Matossian (08:38):

That was the one. Where did she hear when Dave said, Hey, this is the 95 pound bar for men and this is the 65 pound bar for women and pussies. He’s where he said that shit. That’s where he would say that shit. I’ve heard him in.

Dan Thiessen (08:55):

So he’s asking if Dave said this is the 95 pound bar for men and this is the 65 pound bar for the pussies

Sevan Matossian (09:03):

Women. I’ve heard him say that at One World back in the day in 2008. I’m sure I was at your level one. I’m sure I was

Dan Thiessen’s Wife (09:11):


Sevan Matossian (09:11):

Filming or something.

Dan Thiessen’s Wife (09:14):

They filmed all those Dave Castro videos for his talk. The ones that made it onto the cross of a journal were filmed there at that. It was like the first one without Glassman. It was like the first one and we were like, no, we’re too late. We missed Glassman.

Sevan Matossian (09:28):

Hey, do you remember him saying that They lined up all the night? Oh darn. It was so crazy. And I remember I was just this crazy TiVo from Berkeley. I was like, this is totally unacceptable. Can’t talk to people like this. Wow.

Dan Thiessen’s Wife (09:44):

So much impressive. It was unacceptable back then, but I mean

Sevan Matossian (09:49):


Dan Thiessen’s Wife (09:49):

Where the fun was.

Sevan Matossian (09:50):

Crazy. Alright, thank you. Great. Great to talk to you. Wow. What’s her name? Dan.

Dan Thiessen (09:56):

That’s Rachel.

Sevan Matossian (09:57):

Rachel. Oh, she’s fun. You did good. Good job.

Dan Thiessen (09:59):

Oh dude, I killed it. So we met at a CrossFit gym that she was managing in 2012, and I had stopped. I had just retired from kickboxing, so I was getting ready to fight in a style of kickboxing called Low Kick for the National Championships. And during that fight camp, I got concussed really bad for about, I think at that point, the fifth time in my life. And so I was in a bad place for months after that. I couldn’t function. I couldn’t work out for the first time since I was 15 years old and I didn’t know what to do with myself. And one of my buddies, he sent me a link and he’s like, listen, these dudes compete in working out. You just got to work out. Nobody’s going to punch you in the face. So that was my first time googling, okay, what is CrossFit? Where is one of these gyms around me? And so I found my local box and I emailed the owner and the owner at the time there. He was a big powerlifter dude, big strong guy. And I’m like, oh yeah, this dude is going to show me how to get strong. I’ve been kickboxing forever. So I was always cutting weight and never

Sevan Matossian (11:17):

Jesse Ward. Was it Jesse Ward by any chance?

Dan Thiessen (11:20):

No. No. Yeah, so I was super excited for the, I had spent five months pretty much not being able to do too much and getting my head right again and officially retiring from kickboxing after spending a good decade doing that kind of stuff. And so I emailed him, I told him who I was, I was excited. He convinced me that I needed to do 10 PTs. I said, okay, I’m in. So I bought 10 PTs. I showed up to the gym ready for this big strong dude to show me what’s up. And this little girl comes up to me and she’s like, hi, I’m Rachel and I’m going to teach you how to CrossFit. I almost laughed in her face, but I was like, this little girl is like, she has no idea what I’ve been through in the last 10 years, what I’m capable of, and she’s going to show me. And dude, an hour later I was begging to get punched in the face again. She tore me a whole new world. It was unbelievable. And

Sevan Matossian (12:23):

You ended up dating and marrying and having kids with your personal trainer.

Dan Thiessen (12:27):


Sevan Matossian (12:28):

That’s a little boy’s dream. Good job. Yeah,

Dan Thiessen (12:30):

Yeah. So yeah, we opened up the affiliate eight years ago. I actually proposed to her on the grand opening and then it was everything we wanted to do together and love together. And now we have three boys who are growing up in the gym and kind of CrossFit became this thing that brought everything in my life into where it should be and end up, which is pretty cool.

Sevan Matossian (12:56):

Are your boys doing martial arts?

Dan Thiessen (12:58):

Yeah, so my six year old, that’s him. They’re doing some thrusters. He does BJJ. One of my best friends, Marc owns the local jujitsu gym. And so he goes to BJ J at least a couple times a week. He does gymnastics and those My

Sevan Matossian (13:20):

Is a Brazilian immigrant to the great country of Canada. Yeah.

Dan Thiessen (13:23):

Yep. From real. Yeah, he’s awesome. So I do jujitsu there as well. Sometimes I don’t do it as much anymore, but he goes all the time. My twins will go once they’re old enough to go. I think it’s the perfect way for them to be introduced to that whole world,

Sevan Matossian (13:43):

Dude. A hundred percent. Hey, so tell me the age of your kids.

Dan Thiessen (13:48):

So my oldest is turning six, and then my twins are turning two in January.

Sevan Matossian (13:55):

So you’re kind of doing what I’m doing. Mine are two years apart, years are four years apart, but I got the oldest in two.

Dan Thiessen (14:01):

Yeah, yeah, exactly. We follow the Instagram. My wife sends me stuff from your boys all the time that they’re doing crazy.

Sevan Matossian (14:12):


Dan Thiessen (14:13):

Yeah, thanks dude. It’s amazing. I love those kids more than anything, man. It’s the greatest blessing on life.

Sevan Matossian (14:22):

I am sure you’ve heard this a thousand times, so I’ll just pile on. Dude. It’s only going to get better.

Dan Thiessen (14:29):

I can’t wait. I can’t wait.

Sevan Matossian (14:30):

It sounds unbelievable. I mean, you’re going to love every second of it, but last night I was going to bed and I was looking at ’em and I’m like, this is nuts. I mean, I just partied so hard with the three of them yesterday. It’s crazy.

Dan Thiessen (14:41):

That’s amazing.

Sevan Matossian (14:44):

It’s cool.

Dan Thiessen (14:45):

I can’t wait for the juujitsu tournaments and I’m excited for when the twins get old enough, they all beat each other up. It’s just going to be an absolute bloodbath.

Sevan Matossian (14:56):

My kids have been doing tennis for three years and it was only until basically the last couple of weeks that they can all play together now. Right. The nine year old, they can actually rally with the nine year old, well the nine year old and a six year old. That’s almost seven. They can all rally. So I can just sit in a lawn chair at the tennis court and they can just play. You know what I mean? King of the court. Dope.

Dan Thiessen (15:17):

That’s the best.

Sevan Matossian (15:18):

Yeah, you’re going to have a great time. So you opened a gym and why do you guys open a gym?

Dan Thiessen (15:25):

Well, that was all I knew. That was all she knew. So it’s all both of us ever wanted to do on our separate paths. Actually before I started going to the CrossFit gym, I was going to open up my own strength and conditioning facility. At that point I’d been training all the fighters at the gym I was at as their strength and conditioning coach. So that’s what I wanted to do. And then once you get bit with the CrossFit bug, it’s over. So it just changed my whole trajectory of what I saw I could do with people just like how I trained my fighters for fights. Even still to this day, I train a lot of boxers and I’ll use something like the ghost that Dave Castro wrote for Guerrero, who is a former WBC world champion boxer. I’ll use that workout like exact workout and I’ll give my pro boxers that workout to do as part of their camp.


And we have times on that workout and we know as they get closer to a fight, they’re going to be in shape if they can hit a certain amount of reps on that workout. So yeah, this is the ghost here. And we do this and I switch out the rowing for Echo bike calories as well sometimes just to, I like this motion, especially for boxers, but it’s a cool video they have. You can find it on YouTube of Guerrero doing the workout at the beginning of camp with Castro. I think they’re at the ranch and then they do it again in the middle and end of camp and just how much better and how much fitter he got through that camp for a world championship fight. And he was going 12 rounds. So six rounds is, I’d say an average pro boxer will fight six rounds more towards the beginning of their career, and then the closer they get, obviously to those championship and world titles, they’ll fight eight, 10 and then 12 rounds. So I, I just had a pro boxer who I trained John Michael Bianco, who’s just won the Canadian super middleweight belt about a month ago, and he’ll do eight to 12 rounds of that workout and it is gnarly. It will knock you right out. So I don’t know. I found CrossFit, she was already, obviously she quit university to run that gym. She was going to Univers, not the

Sevan Matossian (17:53):

One you owned, university of the one she worked at.

Dan Thiessen (17:57):

Yeah, the one that we met at, she always wanted to be a teacher, but she was going to the University of Toronto, the Mississauga campus for I think it was geology. Geography. Geography, sorry, physical. And she just hated it and loved being in the affiliate and she just became the general manager pretty much there and ran that place and quit school and that’s all she wanted to do. That’s all I wanted to do. I had been in the gym in combat sports since I was 16 years old, so I didn’t really know much else. My dad always told me that I should follow somewhere where I have a passion and I really love what I’m doing. And he was an immigrant who kind of worked to make sure that we could be provided for and he never had that from where, so my dad was born in Chihuahua, Mexico now. Wow. Yeah, he’s not Mexican, but he was born in a German Mennonite colony in Mexico. They’re farmers. I think there’s some YouTube documentaries on that as well where they used the German Mennonites to bring drugs across the border. They were in horse and buggies and it was an easy way to get the drugs across the border. I don’t think they can do that anymore. Yeah, my dad,

Sevan Matossian (19:18):

Yeah, they can bring anything across. The border is open, guys to come back and forth, do what you want. The majority of Mennonites are farmers and produce various agricultural products. So your dad’s a German that ended up in basically some sort of cult that thought it would be best to farm in Mexico because of what they could grow there. They’re basically, your dad comes from your grandparents were homesteaders, but in Mexico.

Dan Thiessen (19:47):

And so when they got here, they lived in a farming community outside of GTA, probably a couple hours. And they

Sevan Matossian (20:01):

Jumped the good country. They went from Mexico to Canada. They just jumped to good country. They just

Dan Thiessen (20:05):

Came right on through. So he grew up on the farm just working. And honestly, he had a horrible upbringing. My grandfather was a drunk and a drug addict and beat the snot out of him and he was abused on a whole bunch of different levels. So it’s interesting because you think of Mennonites as they believe in God and they have these set of rules and then he got the crap beat out of him. My grandfather was not a good person. And then a pastor from the local church found him one day on the side of the road just kind of bawling his eyes out because all his German Mennonite families are huge. So he was the third youngest out of 13 children. So all the older ones had left, they weren’t taking it anymore. And it was him, his younger brother and sister that were left. And he didn’t know what to do with himself because the other thing about being a German Mennonite in those communities is that the farmers and the people who grew up there didn’t like them at all. So when he would go to school, he’d get the crap beat out of him and they hated him. He was a Mennonite. And then when he would go home, his dad would beat the crap out of

Sevan Matossian (21:25):

Him. The local Mexican kids,

Dan Thiessen (21:26):

Is that No, no. The local Ontario, the local Canadians

Sevan Matossian (21:31):


Dan Thiessen (21:31):

They moved here.

Sevan Matossian (21:32):

Okay, okay.

Dan Thiessen (21:33):

Yeah. So when they moved here, he just got the crap kicked out of him everywhere he went. So a local pastor had picked him up and kind of taken care of him in the church. And then that’s where my dad went from being a Mennonite to a Christian and just kind of changed his whole trajectory of life. And he started his own business, started a trucking business that he still owns 30 years later. He’s done really well for himself and the hardest working man I know. And I think we’ll ever know. He’s 63 years old, still goes to work every single day, still works the same business. He’s been running for the last 30 something years. You

Sevan Matossian (22:17):

Must be still proud of him.

Dan Thiessen (22:19):

He’s the greatest. He’s my hero. Beyond anything I could ever tell you. Sivan,

Sevan Matossian (22:26):

How cool to have a great dad like that, that pulled his shit together for his family. And he did for you?

Dan Thiessen (22:31):

Yeah, a hundred percent. And he worked like a dog for,

Sevan Matossian (22:35):

Hey dude, how do you switch? Switch religions? I was telling my mom this the other day, I was like, why I’m not religious. She goes, why? Because I have no calling. I’m doing my calling. I have a calling, but I’m doing my calling at the fidelity and the clarity that I get it. I’m not having dreams where Jesus is wake up and go to church. You know what I mean? With my awareness, I’m not seeing the Buddha calling me or Islam calling me or Christianity calling me. I’m open to it, but I don’t, I wonder what calling your dad. And so I just don’t want to fake it. You know what I mean? I don’t want to be fake it. I want to be like, I want to get called or not called. Yeah.

Dan Thiessen (23:23):

I think when you’re in a situation where he’s in, they’re telling you that they believe in one thing, there’s a God and there’s all these rules that you have to follow and then you watch your own father, as soon as things got hard turned to something completely different than the gods you claimed was there. So if you really believed in that God and the times hard, why did he turn to something else rather than that God. So I think he saw that and how fake it can be that that is like a cult of where they have all these rules but they don’t actually believe in them because this man who would go get drunk and do drugs every night and then come home and beat the crap out of his own kids. So I think he was just searching for why am I this person who has to take all this abuse all the time?


And then I think when he met that pastor and he saw the flip side of somebody who didn’t know him at all but had a love to give him that he had never received from anybody else and that love was coming from some other place, why would this man just love him for no reason and there was nothing asked for in return. There was nothing. It was just given to him where everything in his life was taken away from him constantly. And then on top of that, he had to go to school for a certain amount of hours and then work on the farm for the rest of the time to make sure that my dad’s family didn’t get kicked off that farm that they were renting. They had to work the land to stay, that to work, the land to eat. So his whole life is based around all this hate and all these physical things that he had to do all the time.


And then somebody showed him love and compassion out of nothing for no reason. And I think that’s where when that somebody shows you that and their purpose is from something up above that they believe that there is a God and there’s a God of compassion and he, he’s there to be there for you when you have nobody else. And he put this man in that position to do that for him. I think once those two worlds, you go from that to this, it can change you forever. He could have been the most bitter change human being. Right? And you want to know something even crazier. He didn’t leave. He wouldn’t leave the farm. So he believed that he should stay. He should make sure that his little brother and little sister were taken care of. He believed that he should do that, that he should continue to work to make sure that they didn’t get kicked out and end up homeless on the streets and he forgave his dad.


So the grandfather I know that I grew up with is not the same man that he got abused by. So my grandfather actually ended up, my dad led my grandfather to the Lord, to Jesus after that whole thing, after everything he had done. And my grandfather who was an alcoholic, he repented. He became completely sober. He never drank another day in his life. Then the grandfather that I knew was a loving man who loved us. He would build these little wooden toys in his shed for us. We would go there until the day he died. He was a loving man. I never knew any of that stuff until I got older and my dad and my dad told me, and it was even interesting at his funeral, you could still see that some of his older brothers, when they talked about him, had resentment, had anger towards him and everything that had happened. And my dad was just at peace. My dad put that to peace long time ago and he decided that he’s going to stick around and do something that I guess 99% of people couldn’t or wouldn’t do. And he attributes that to his faith and what he believes in.

Sevan Matossian (27:26):

What a great story. Holy shit. He lived a full life, full circle.

Dan Thiessen (27:33):

And dad is

Sevan Matossian (27:34):

Living a full life,

Dan Thiessen (27:35):

Living a full life. We didn’t grow up normal in our family. Our whole dynamic is so different as a four or five year old. I remember this man who lived with us, his name was Ted, and my dad went downtown Toronto and he was feeding the homeless during a Christmas kind of time. And he found this man who just had this crazy cough and had nowhere to go and he picked the man up, put him in his van and brought him home. And that guy lived with us until the day he died of lung cancer,

Sevan Matossian (28:09):

Live normal

Dan Thiessen (28:09):


Sevan Matossian (28:10):

How long did he live with? You

Dan Thiessen (28:12):


Sevan Matossian (28:17):

Holy shit. Your dad sounds weirder than me. I ran a home camp in my backyard. It was wild.

Dan Thiessen (28:24):

Yeah, so he doesn’t live. He

Sevan Matossian (28:26):

Brought a dude home who was sick and just let him live in your joint with his kids for a couple years and then he died in Canada.

Dan Thiessen (28:35):

Yeah. I still remember going to that funeral as a kid because Ted became a live-in grandfather for us. He’s a Polish man. He spoke English well enough to take care of us. But yeah, he just was part of the family. My mom, she loved him just like you would an older uncle or something along those lines.

Sevan Matossian (29:00):

Dude, I’ve never, I swear to you, in 51 years of me being alive besides me and now your dad, those are the only people I’ve known who’ve taken in homeless people. I mean, there was a movie called Beverly Hills Bum or something. There was a movie where they took in a homework. God,

Dan Thiessen (29:17):

Okay, yeah.

Sevan Matossian (29:18):

Crazy that your dad did that. Wild. I wonder, wow, I’d like to meet your dad someday. See if, yeah. Are you sure he not Armenian?

Dan Thiessen (29:27):

He’s No, he is Mexican Mennonite.

Sevan Matossian (29:30):

Oh yeah. Down in Beverly Hills.

Dan Thiessen (29:32):

There we go.

Sevan Matossian (29:35):

Wow. What a great story. Yeah, you did not have a normal upbringing. There’s this guy, I’ve told this story before, Dan, but there’s this guy that it’s too long to tell now, but how I met him was just wild. The circumstances I met him and then I didn’t see him for, it was in Santa Barbara and then I didn’t see him for 10 years.

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