CrossFit Semifinal Preview Show Week 3 w/ Hiller, Friend & Young

Sevan Matossian (00:00):

No, I see a man capable of anything. You tell me you have to leave in 90 minutes and I don’t believe you. I just see, wow, this guy can, this, this guy could stay all morning. This guy could last all day. I believe in you.

Andrew Hiller (00:12):

His wife thinks so too.

Sevan Matossian (00:13):

Uh, a few minutes ago I was in the living room. Uh, no. I was actually to be. Well, yeah, I was in the, I was, uh, I had a weird morning this morning. I was in the kitchen, uh, in my underwear with Andrew Hiller drinking coffee. And then later on, uh, we shared a computer, uncomfortably close <laugh>, uh, in our underwear, uh, reading Be Friendly Fitness, getting caught up on the three new articles that are on there, uh, all regarding the European, um, uh, semi-finals that are coming. Uh, exciting. If you are not excited about that, you’re at the right place. We are definitely gonna get you excited about it. It is worth being excited about. And if you, uh, need more excitement, make sure you go over to B b. It’s just a letter B, friendly fitness, no dots or anything, dot com and check out the articles. Is there anything you need? Is there anywhere you do your work, John? Or do you save it all for this podcast?

John Young (01:05):

I save it all for this podcast. You’re a good dude. And

Sevan Matossian (01:07):

Then, um, loyal. Loyal and committed. You’re a one, you’re a mono, you have a monogamous, uh, relationship. I cannot say the same for Andrew and Mr. Friendly

John Young (01:17):

Right there. Uh, barbell spins my sidepiece

Sevan Matossian (01:20):

<laugh>. All right. I knew it. I knew it. Uh, exciting week. Here’s what’s cool about before we say anything else, how are we gonna watch this as Americans? Uh, I, I, I couldn’t tell on this thread we’re on. I said, Hey, what are the hours on this? And B spin said, look at this week’s schedule and add nine hours. Is it really, is it really that simple? Uh, Mr. Friend?

Brian Friend (01:43):

Yeah. All the comp, all the tests take place at the same time, local time. So whatever was starting at 9:00 AM in Orlando also started at 9:00 AM in Pasadena. And we’ll also start at 9:00 AM in Berlin.

Sevan Matossian (01:56):

Really? It’s like that.

Brian Friend (01:58):

I believe so.

Sevan Matossian (01:59):

Okay. So for us, add nine hours to nine. And so that’s 6:00 PM Okay. So I could probably do both. I could probably be at the Broken Science Initiative that the ranch this weekend. And are, what are you guys gonna do? Are you staying up? I’ll start with who I think’s not staying up. Are you staying up throughout the night to watch it, Mr. Hiller?

Andrew Hiller (02:15):

Uh, what do you mean? Are you saying that I will

Sevan Matossian (02:17):

Or will not? I I think you will. I think you will not. I

Andrew Hiller (02:20):

Will not. No. I usually watch this the day I wake

Sevan Matossian (02:23):

Up. Mr. Young, will you stay up throughout the night?

John Young (02:27):

I will do whatever you ask of Meson.

Sevan Matossian (02:29):

God, you’re a good dude. And, uh, and Brian, you will be in Berlin?

Brian Friend (02:34):

Yeah, I’m leaving for the airport in less than four hours.

Sevan Matossian (02:37):

Okay. And I also heard, um, I’m hearing rumblings that Chase is flying to Berlin to do, uh, events one and three. Can you confirm or deny That?

Brian Friend (02:48):

I can confirm.

Sevan Matossian (02:49):

Awesome. And so you’ll be working on that broadcast as well

Brian Friend (02:53):

To some extent, yes. As I, as I have the last two weeks.

Sevan Matossian (02:56):

Awesome. God, you demand. Alright, uh, let’s do this. Uh, should we, should we move to, oh, I have a document here. I have the document, not a document. Sorry, I didn’t mean to, uh, it is, I type in Brian into the search and it brings me to, um, my Google doc. You’ve really schooled me up on Google stuff. Is this Google stuff? I click on the European Asia tab and I look for Asia. Okay. Let’s do, uh, let’s do Asian men first. You guys good with this?

Brian Friend (03:31):


Sevan Matossian (03:31):

I’m always good with Asian men first. I personally think this is the most exciting, uh, Asia’s ever been because I don’t know anyone there. And I think we’re gonna get introduced to characters there. Uh, that will um, will are gonna be around for a long time,

Brian Friend (03:45):

Correct? Well, you do know some of the guys,

Sevan Matossian (03:47):

But, but Right. Okay. But I mean, none have any of these guys ever made it to the games? Yeah. In one of those years that matters.

Brian Friend (03:55):

Both of the, well, both of the guys that I have picked mm-hmm. <affirmative> as you see, there are tour seminar off and Aunt Haynes are games athletes. Aunt Haynes made the games in 2019. So you might be referring to those as one of the years that don’t matter. Uh, he did, you know, re No, no, the athletes have any control about how the test goes and he actually got cut in the twenties along with guys like Brent owk. So he did decently well.

Sevan Matossian (04:21):

So he was in good company.

Brian Friend (04:23):

Well, we never, I mean, the thing is we got, we only got to see him do a few workouts, so we don’t know exactly how good he necessarily was, but he did better than at least a hundred other guys. And Arthur Sum enough was at the games last year. I, I think he was dealing with a hamstring injury throughout the entirety of the games. So we didn’t necessarily see him at his best either. He’s coached by Nick Fowler and I think he’s the favorite to win this semi-final.

Sevan Matossian (04:48):

On a scale of one to 69, how irritated is Brian already with Chevon? Wow. If God damn, you’re good. I I I thought he was just playing hard to get, um, uh, John, um, Nick d won’t be a factor in the games. Uh, true. That that’s not true, right? Because even if they don’t play well and the total standings, they’re still a factor, right? One of these guys gets a top five finish and it, it fucks with the points for everyone else, right? No. Oh, all right. Uh, Brian, will these guys be a factor?

Brian Friend (05:20):

No. The answer it to, to your specific question is yes, if he finishes top five in a workout, then that will likely be a factor because, you know, if workout

John Young (05:29):

Is he finishing top five in?

Brian Friend (05:32):

Well, our, I think that arc tour similarly to Kelan Henry last year is a guy that we just didn’t get to see do nearly what he can do. I think he’s fairly strong, decent runner. I think he’s gonna ha I mean look in the semi-finals, it’s not a perfect comparison across all of these tests, but I think he’ll have some competitive scores on tests one, four and seven, uh, relative to the world. Um, how good they’ll be will remain to be seen. But I think a, he’s a big powerful guy and that there are certain, certain tests that could come out that he could have a top 10 finishing at the games, despite the fact that he’s almost guaranteed to have a bottom 10 finish. Overall.

Sevan Matossian (06:08):

Do, do any of these guys, um, have a 300 pound snatch?

Brian Friend (06:14):

I don’t think so. Um,

Sevan Matossian (06:18):

Will we see a 300 pound snatch in Asia from anyone?

John Young (06:23):

I mean, maybe, probably not.

Andrew Hiller (06:26):

Will they

John Young (06:26):

Be It’s it’s not impossible

Andrew Hiller (06:28):

Though. Hundred pound snatch.

Sevan Matossian (06:30):

Well, not required, but, but that was kind of, right. That’s kind of the, um,

John Young (06:34):

That’s a great point, Heather.

Sevan Matossian (06:37):

By by required meaning to win it, will they have to Oh, meaning even if they can show up? Oh, well it’s definitely gonna show up in the semifinals, right? I mean, we know event, uh

Andrew Hiller (06:46):

Oh, that’s what you’re asking. Okay.

Sevan Matossian (06:47):

Right, right. But, but I thought basically what you were saying is, is does someone need a 300 pound snatch in Asia to win it? Obviously North America, west and east, you definitely need a 300 pound snatch to win.

Brian Friend (06:56):

He’s probably the best. Beth,

Sevan Matossian (06:59):

Who is

Brian Friend (07:00):

Some enough.

Sevan Matossian (07:01):


Brian Friend (07:03):

He’s one of the biggest guys in the field. He has a ba a weightlifting, uh, background. And I know there’s, it’s just, there’s a lot of, a lot of men in this field that we’re not, uh, we don’t know too much about. And the ones that we do, they, cuz they kind of come up year after year there, I don’t think any of them can challenge for 300 pounds on the snatch.

Sevan Matossian (07:24):

Look, look at, um, uh, number six and seven. They almost have, I mean, they’re the same last name. Kim. Look at their first names, you know, can you pronounce those? Brian <laugh>?

Brian Friend (07:36):

If anyone in South Korea is, is listening, that’s, that would be like you saying, wow, look at the guys you have ranked third and fourth. They have the same last name and it’s Chandler Smith and Ben Smith

Sevan Matossian (07:45):

<laugh>. Right, right. Suck ball.

Brian Friend (07:51):

I’m not sure the first part sung Kim and Sung Jung Kim is what I would

Sevan Matossian (07:56):

Say Sung young. Sung Young Kim. I hope sung.

John Young (07:58):

It’s more, I think it’s more sung Young. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (08:01):

I like Sung Young. Anyone from the physical 100 competing in Asia? Oh, <laugh>.

Andrew Hiller (08:06):

I pulled this up and I wanted to know if Brian had any insight on that. Cause I just watched that show

Sevan Matossian (08:10):

First. Tell us what that show is. Hillary. What’s that show?

Andrew Hiller (08:13):

It was on Netflix. A whole bunch of people were watching it. And from what I understand, a CrossFitter actually won it. Yeah. And I looked into him a little bit and he has never done the Open, which

John Young (08:22):

Was, he’s not, he’s not very, he’s not crazy fit.

Andrew Hiller (08:26):

Well I think he owns an affiliate and I remember everybody name. It’s like Naung CrossFit in Asia and I was wondering if Brian had any.

Sevan Matossian (08:32):

I heard the show’s good. Is it good? Uh oh.

Andrew Hiller (08:35):

Alright. Alright.

John Young (08:37):

It’s very drawn out.

Brian Friend (08:39):


Andrew Hiller (08:40):

Not? Yes, yes. It’s like Big Brother combined with the Bachelor, combined with some, uh, the One Speed one Titan Games.

Sevan Matossian (08:49):

Uh, Brian, anyone from that show? Uh, here at Semi-Finals?

Brian Friend (08:53):

Not that I know of.

Sevan Matossian (08:54):

Hey, I bet you, I bet you this show is good for CrossFit.

Brian Friend (08:58):


Sevan Matossian (08:58):

CrossFit Asia. No. You don’t think it helps promote CrossFit in Asia? Well, it’s

Andrew Hiller (09:02):

Interesting that they actually mentioned CrossFit. Cause I remember on the Titan games, Matt Chan and Spiegel never mentioned Fitness CrossFit when they’re on the tv.

John Young (09:11):

Oh, what’d they say? They say a fitness influencer. Is that what they called

Andrew Hiller (09:13):

Them? Un Unti games? Yeah.

John Young (09:15):

Yeah. Matt, chances a firefighter. And, uh, Danny Spiegel’s a fitness influencer. That’s

Andrew Hiller (09:21):


Sevan Matossian (09:22):

Uh, Nathan Reese, uh, Hillary Hasson fixed the screen since the Castro episode. There’s a presupposition there that Castro thinks that, that, that Hillary wants to look at me through this screen. It’s only Dave who wants to see my whole body. Hillary’s fine with just looking at my eyes. I can see his eyes. Yeah. There you go. Don’t Brian, don’t get carried away.

John Young (09:39):

Do you know, do you know about Martiza’s snatch? Because I know he is cleaned 3 83 and I mean, if you’re cleaning that much, your snatch is likely to be high. Um, unless you know what I mean? Like, that’s, that’s an acceptable amount of strength to conceivably see a 300 pound snatch.

Brian Friend (09:56):

Yeah, I mean he’s, he’s one of the stronger guys. There are sometimes athletes that have a really good clean and don’t have a great snatch, but I, you know,

John Young (10:04):

Right. I don’t know if he’s that guy.

Brian Friend (10:06):

Yeah. 300 pounds, I don’t know. But I would still expect a, like nothing worse than a top five from him on that test. I just not, I’m just not sure what, what you need to be top five in Asia on that.

Sevan Matossian (10:17):

Uh, Brian’s irritation, uh, level of some of the numbers have come in 69 out of 69, 40 out of 69, 65 outta 69. Holy shit. A 90. Let’s see if, uh, we can bring those numbers. Uh, south, um, uh, uh, John Young’s, uh, Travis b oh, this isn’t gonna help with the irritation level <laugh> is, is this a fact Trav? Uh, John Young’s picks have been better than Brian’s. I, what I saw is that Brian’s were slightly better from the data that I saw. Well,

Brian Friend (10:45):

I think that it depends. So it’s like at this level of the, how

John Young (10:49):

Do we do it, the wet, do you know,

Brian Friend (10:52):

At this level of the season, it’s like, are you saying that the, for that I got, I did better than John because I had more people who qualified or that John did better than me because he had people closer to their actual finishing position. So there’s two different metrics that you could use to evaluate that.

John Young (11:09):

Um, who picked, uh, who picked the winner correctly?

Brian Friend (11:12):

In, in Oceania we had the exact same results. We both, we both had five outta six. They were the same out of fifth six. And we both missed the third woman. Um, the one woman that got in, John had ranked one spot higher than me. He had her fifth, I had her sixth. So it was pretty much a wash over there. And uh, and in North America. West, yeah. John had Pat Vener winning it, which I think would definitely should, uh, give him some credit for that. It’s, uh, I I didn’t see anyone else picking anyone else besides Justin to win. Did you John?

John Young (11:44):

No, no,

Brian Friend (11:46):

No. We, and then he had Justin second. Obviously we both had a little bit of a miss on him. We both had um, Brent and Sam right behind that. So they both slid up one spot. But that’s basically Wash. He both had Nick Matthew, he was a little bit worse. I had Cole Gre Shaver, uh, sixth he finished fourth Col, John Adam 13th, which was an embarrassing pick to begin with. And he was punished for that. Uh, he had Chandler Smith right about where he finished. I had Chandler on the outside, which is mostly cuz I wasn’t sure about his wrist. Obviously he was completely fine. I had then was the last man out. So John would take that one. He had Colton Merkins in, I had Colton Merkins two spots out, so he would get that one. I had Mitch Stevenson in. He didn’t make it, but he was threatening.

Sevan Matossian (12:24):

He was threatening. That was an impressive pick on after day

Brian Friend (12:27):

One. He looked really, really good.

Sevan Matossian (12:29):

Yeah, he looked great.

Brian Friend (12:30):

And then we both missed on Tu Magda and John missed on Leonard Olof Franco. Leonardo Franco was not healthy coming into this competition and didn’t even finish the competition. And the fact that John had Cole Sager were missing the cut, but only by one spot. He was the last man in. So he thought it would be a tight race for him. So I’d say we did similarly just with, you know, depending on the person. Uh, there were a couple, I’d say we missed both, missed on a couple and for the most part they were understandable. I’d say the only, the only re like I would say, I’d say the biggest miss was probably Grease Saber for John.

Sevan Matossian (13:02):

Yeah. I’d pay a thousand bucks to see the text messages between Brian and Vener after the, uh, semifinals.

Brian Friend (13:08):

We just, uh,

Sevan Matossian (13:08):

Had a drink and Brian wrote him 90 minutes. You wrote him a love letter. Oh, it was a 90 minute phone call. God, you

Brian Friend (13:13):

Just, oh no in person actually had a

Sevan Matossian (13:15):

Nice, someone should have recorded that <laugh>

Brian Friend (13:17):

And Brent was there too. It was great.

Sevan Matossian (13:19):

Brian dropped to one knee and and said, I apologize. Mr. Vener, who do you

Brian Friend (13:23):

Think was more impressive that, uh, Kowski or Val there? I think Kowski, I mean I, but the reason I say Falkowski is, is not his overall finish, but the, what he was able to do in specific tests, like the way did he managed test two, honestly test two, five and six. I mean, I think we’re uh, really, really well executed and you know, not that we’re unused to seeing him do that, but you know, when we were talking about Colton me’s last week, it wasn’t that I didn’t think Colton could excel at three tests. It’s just this field is really good. And the, and the execution that Brent had on those tests, um, yielded better finishes than I thought might be possible just because of the level of the field. So I would say the test in general looked like it lined up better for Venner skillset. And I, you know, the, um, I was less surprised that he won than that Brett got second.

Sevan Matossian (14:17):

Alright, let’s do this then. Fuck it. Uh, we’ve been derailed. I I, what’s interesting is people say that, uh, men and women aren’t treated equally the same in the sport. And I don’t know if that’s true or not, but they’re definitely not treated the same on the show. Cuz this would never come off so easy off my tongue about a woman. Uh, do you think Maderas was too heavy at the semi-finals? That is. There is so much chatter about that. Yes.

Brian Friend (14:43):

What did he say? He said he’s, he’s 10 competing 10 pounds heavier than,

Sevan Matossian (14:46):

That’s hearsay. I, someone told me he said that. I didn’t actually hear him say that, but if he was, let’s, let’s, let’s, let’s make the assumption he did. He was 10 pounds heavier than he was competing at the games. Do you think that’s what we saw with him? Because dude, if you haven’t seen the, if you have never, if you’re introduced new to the sport this year and the semi-finals was the big competition, that first big competition you saw, um, I mean don’t, don’t get me wrong, that’s, uh, event six. Let me ask you one more question to throw in there too. On top of that, do you think that his event six win was the most impressive win of the weekend for any athlete winning?

Brian Friend (15:20):


Sevan Matossian (15:22):

Maybe. It’s pretty impressive, right? I mean

Brian Friend (15:24):

At at the, at specifically at North America West.

Sevan Matossian (15:27):

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Specifically there. Yeah, it was an impressive victory, right?

Brian Friend (15:31):

For just the win. Um,

John Young (15:33):

Probably just, probably just the win. I don’t know. I’m performances

Brian Friend (15:38):

Like, I’m pretty impressed with, with Pat and Brent going sub too. Test five like that, you know, we saw people flirt with it last week when you’re talking about an 800 meter run. I mean the snatches are the snatches like a couple seconds is a big deal. And we see a lot of people that one second will cost them five spots. They’re both, and Pat was 2 56. I have to throw that into the mix.

John Young (15:57):

I don’t think that was as dominant as Justin’s event six though.

Brian Friend (16:01):

Maybe not, but this like, but uh, he’s asking as impressive and I know that from like competitive swimming and running in my background that like a couple seconds is, is lot, lot more than a couple seconds in in some it’s a of these disciplines a lot. So just for the sake of conversation, obviously, what

John Young (16:15):

About Mertons and Linda?

Brian Friend (16:18):

Ah, man, dude, if, if he was feeling, uh, a hundred percent that day, it could’ve been even sub 11, which would’ve been incredible. Yeah, he said he

John Young (16:24):

Give everybody by a minute.

Brian Friend (16:26):

The other and the, but the other thing is we were like, I was kind of expecting that he, you know, he had told us like, watch out, I’m gonna do something that no one else can do on this test. And so while it is obviously on the leaderboard, it shows up and you’re like, yeah, that’s a, that’s a huge outlier. In fact to be fun to do kind of a study compared to some of the other big outliers we’ve seen. Cuz the time domain’s a little different. Like Victor Hoffer and <inaudible> test one who’s like a five minutes to six minutes Fraser’s friendly Fran three minutes to four minutes. So this is 11 to 12 minutes. So it’s like, it’s not quite as impressive on a percentage to some of those other ones that are beating the field by a minute. But yeah, the, the reality is we have seen this past week some phenomenal performances across the board and Justin in test six is definitely one of ’em.

Sevan Matossian (17:10):

Damn, you’re right. Pat and Brent sent it in test five. Dude, they beat fucking, he beat third place by fucking 10 seconds.

John Young (17:18):

Yeah, that’s a lot. That’s, that’s

Sevan Matossian (17:20):

Holy shit.

Brian Friend (17:21):

And it’s, and like that is true, but if you go to the North America, um, east, then there’s, there were guys that were close, like Adrd was three minutes even Roman was 3 0 2, a couple guys were 3 0 5. So besides them, the, this is the women’s, but besides Brett and Pat, the men’s field in the west just wasn’t great at that test. So it inflates it a little bit. I’m, but Colton’s core is just as good or actually better against the east than it is the West. And um, I think Madera’s score is just as good or, or, or even better as well because I think Chandler also got the best of Sam Cornay

Sevan Matossian (18:00):

Damn down Pepper 3 0 7.

Andrew Hiller (18:03):

Do you guys

Sevan Matossian (18:04):

Fuck he’s the real deal. Can

Andrew Hiller (18:06):

You confirm what I think I heard about Bosman saying four and five are the best correlates to finishing higher on the leaderboard? I thought I’d heard that thrown around. Oh

John Young (18:14):

Yeah. Um,

Brian Friend (18:16):

Go ahead. Well we had, we had, we get a chance to talk to him with the broadcast prior to the competition and he highlighted two things. He’s like, look at day one, day one you have a long grueling test that you have to be big enough to move this implement on the sled. And I, and obviously get, you know, enough power on the machines to stay relevant. And then in test two, while there is a weightlifting component, ultimately, you know, the, the body weight specialist or the gymnastics specialist should excel. If you see an athlete that’s doing well on both of those on day one, take notice and secondarily we’re gonna see people that snatch heavy and then bomb the run and we’re gonna see people that snatch light and kill the run. But if you see someone who does both well take notice. So those are the two areas of this particular test that he is looking for that

Sevan Matossian (18:59):

You subscribe to that Brian, uh, that logic that thinking.

Brian Friend (19:05):

Yeah, for sure. I mean there are a lot, you know, it’s, it’s way more common to see an athlete do great on either test one or two than to see ’em do great on both test one and two and

John Young (19:12):

Same thing. No, I think he’s asking do you think four and five, whoever does good on four and five, that’s the most correlate to is going to do good at the games? I don’t think so. No,

Andrew Hiller (19:22):

No, no. I at it amongst this field, this test in particular,

Sevan Matossian (19:27):

I think you guys are saying the same thing, right? The series

Andrew Hiller (19:28):

Of workouts, the person who does the best on four or five on average will have the highest level of

John Young (19:34):

Fitness. No, I mean be and Falkowski both did the best in four and five. That’s what

Andrew Hiller (19:37):

I’m asking. Gonna tie it back to what we’re talking about with Maderas, who I know three 20 and Sam,

Brian Friend (19:44):

Sam Quant had two top tons on that also. And um, the interesting thing is that on the women’s side, there were only two that had top 10 finishes on both. One of ’em was Abi Abigail dot who obviously had an exceptional weekend, probably basically put her name on the map and it was because of those two tests. And then you had Emily White who also made a, a great showing for herself but ended up missing the games. So, uh, on the men’s side it was, it looks like it was almost a direct roll. Those are the three guys with top 10 finishes on both. And there were three guys on the podium. Uh, the women’s side wasn’t as obvious.

John Young (20:16):

Is that just because there’s an inordinate amount of heavy snatchers in the women’s field?

Sevan Matossian (20:23):

Dude. Oh nevermind, sorry.

Brian Friend (20:24):

Maybe Luis Oscar. Oh no, he was the seventh on both as well. And he and he ended up missing the games. So

Andrew Hiller (20:30):

He was close though.

Sevan Matossian (20:32):

Very close. Gza shut the bed on a workout for Oh, but you know what? Actually that’s not, but that’s, uh, that was a tactical error. Strategic error.

John Young (20:41):

But Catherine did well in both.

Sevan Matossian (20:42):


John Young (20:43):

Did well in both.

Sevan Matossian (20:44):

Alex does have a 180 5 snatch i in, in the bag

John Young (20:49):

Even. That wouldn’t have been a great score though.

Andrew Hiller (20:52):

I just liked last year. I think Pan straight up said the workout, they had the chipper and I believe it was the Mac with the overhead squats and the GD setups was pretty correlative to the overall finish. I was trying to tie those together to these two tests.

John Young (21:06):

So Spin Spin’s done an article on this and then workout seven correlated better than everything else.

Brian Friend (21:12):

He did it after test one. Has he up or week one? Has he updated it after week two? Did a

John Young (21:16):

Little. I I’m sure we’ll find out on Wednesday.

Brian Friend (21:18):

I did a little study myself of the top 10 finishers in test seven, uh, north America east, seven of those finishers and on the male and female side made the games. Uh, and then in the west, six of the top 10 finishers in test seven made the games. So it’s, you know, 65% of the athletes that finished the top top 10 on test seven have been making the games outta North America.

Sevan Matossian (21:44):

Hey, that Abigail Donut might be a superstar. She might, she’s cool if she cracks the top five. Hold on people, she’s gonna, she’s gonna tear shit up cracks

Brian Friend (21:58):

The top five of what?

Sevan Matossian (21:59):

Of the games, you know, ever. If she ever gets up there, she’s gonna be a superstar. I know she has a long haul, long

Brian Friend (22:04):

Way to go. But look, you look at her finishes, it’s not that bad. Nothing worse than a 26th than a in a field out of out of 60 is pretty good. Uh, and she has a, you know, a couple good, good performances on the four and five turnaround. Um, but you know, it’s, uh, yeah, I think that it’s, she’s gonna get a, a great opportunity this summer to, to learn more. She’s 25. It’s not like too young to get started and yeah, she continues to improve the way she did from last year to this year. She could have a nice, nice little run.

Sevan Matossian (22:35):

Listen, if you’re a fucking young filmmaker and you know Abigail and you’re anywhere within fucking a hundred miles of her, that’s your, that’s your fucking pony to ride into stardom. Start filming with her fucking boy. What

Andrew Hiller (22:46):

Is young and where does she live?

Sevan Matossian (22:48):

<laugh>, right? It doesn’t matter how old you are. Just like, if you have nothing going on in your life and you can dedicate yourself to uh, a project, make that girl your project. I mean, there’s other, there’s other, she’s in

Brian Friend (22:58):

Texas, John, so get on it.

Sevan Matossian (23:00):

Other, uh, other athletes out there. But if you’re camera, that iPhone, it’s hard. It’s gonna be hard to fuck up, uh, taking pictures and videos of her, of her. And if she can talk, I mean, she’s gonna be cool. We’re

John Young (23:10):

Out in Texas.

Brian Friend (23:13):

Lone star CrossFit

John Young (23:15):

Is that in Austin?

Brian Friend (23:16):


Sevan Matossian (23:16):

Think every, every young filmmaker should be doing that. Find one of these athletes, men, women and, and, and hit your fucking wagon to it and, and, and just do everything you can for free for them.

Brian Friend (23:26):

There’s always a risk though, because

Sevan Matossian (23:28):

You tell me, talk to me.

Brian Friend (23:30):

Um, I think that, uh, like Freya Moose Berger is a good example. Okay. Made the games last year. Right. You know, girl too talented, you know, and you, you might have been saying the same thing about her last year, right?

Sevan Matossian (23:42):

Right. For sure.

Brian Friend (23:43):

But for, you know, and for, and then this year she didn’t do great in the off season. She didn’t do great here. And you know, and, and there’s always, it’s always like a 50 50, once you make risk, get through to the games, 50% of them just like ride that momentum and continue to make it year after year after year and get better and better. And 50% of them never make it back.

Sevan Matossian (24:01):

Is it really that high?

Brian Friend (24:03):

It’s, it’s, I mean I haven’t done it for this past year, but I’ve looked at this in the, you know, cuz this, because the semi-finals not over yet, but I often look to see of the rookies in 2021, how many make it in 2022, et cetera. Yeah. Or make it back and yeah, it’s, you know, it’s usually pretty close to 50%.

Sevan Matossian (24:21):

Uh, I still take the risk. Don’t just do it. Uh, uh, Thomas Hopper, John Young’s list was made by Chad g p t. He doesn’t know anything of those athletes. God, we’re so far off course. It’s okay. Uh, sev on, after listening to your podcast, do you think Sydnee Wells will be at, uh, be that one athlete that wins the sprint workouts? She has a track background that, uh, thanks Chase. I had, I, I don’t, I, when I watch her run, I see, uh, um, like a claymation running kind of, um, like, but so what did she do in track? Please tell me. She was like shot put or something. Yeah.

John Young (24:50):

800 meter.

Sevan Matossian (24:51):


Brian Friend (24:52):

Shit. I think 400, 800

Sevan Matossian (24:54):

No shit

Andrew Hiller (24:55):

Shot putter.

Sevan Matossian (24:56):

Dude. Dude, she does, well I’ll tell you this, she looks much better on the runner than I’d ever seen her run before. But she looks so stiff when she runs. She looks so tight. Go talk to me.

Brian Friend (25:06):

Yeah. Her time would still be top 20 amongst the men in all of North America.

Sevan Matossian (25:10):

In in what

Brian Friend (25:12):

On test five.

Sevan Matossian (25:13):

God damn. Would you guys think she looks like she runs? Well,

John Young (25:16):

I don’t know. She looks like Brooke Wells, but faster,

Brian Friend (25:20):

Their sister. I think Brooke would’ve been about, uh, 10 seconds faster.

Sevan Matossian (25:24):

I don’t know. I, when I think of like, si here, I think of like Sidney Wells, uh, Annie Thor’s daughter. I’m trying to think of who else runs like that. Like, almost like that they’re co concrete. No, co kakowski does not. Makowski runs like fucking, um, like Woody from fucking, uh, toy Story. Toy story <laugh>

Brian Friend (25:40):

Different, the different raw material

Andrew Hiller (25:42):


Sevan Matossian (25:43):

But, but, but they just, but that’s awesome. Thanks for, uh, sand Briggs. Chase. No, not like Sam Bri. Well, when Sam Briggs gets tired, she starts doing the fucking Pat Barber and Chris Spieler, like her fucking head becomes detached from her fucking head. Oh, I’m too old to do

Brian Friend (25:56):

That. Hey, don’t you know Emma Carey was only two seconds behind her on that run.

Sevan Matossian (26:00):

Behind who? Wells

Brian Friend (26:01):

Behind Sydnee Wells.

Sevan Matossian (26:02):

Oh. And dude, what was crazy though? Emma Carey, you saw

Brian Friend (26:06):

Emma Carey’s coming. John already has her top five worldwide.

Sevan Matossian (26:09):

Uh, the last 15 seconds of that run, did you see Emma Carey’s form breakdown in the run and she gave zero fucks? It’s,

Brian Friend (26:15):

That’s if you were doing that, that’s right. That should happen.

Sevan Matossian (26:18):

Yeah, it was fucking nuts. She balls. Balls to the uh, well, okay, John, did

Andrew Hiller (26:23):

You do that workout by chance? Brian? I know you did.

John Young (26:27):

Which one?

Andrew Hiller (26:28):

The, the, the snatch and the run snatches in the run?

John Young (26:31):

I did, no, I did event four. I didn’t do event five, so

Andrew Hiller (26:34):

No, uh, Brian, did your legs feel like concrete as you ran? And did you do it on an AirRunner?

Brian Friend (26:38):

I did it on an AirRunner. Um,

John Young (26:41):

I don’t have an AirRunner.

Brian Friend (26:42):

I mean, I was around, I was around four minutes on that. I was, I was just kind of pacing it to be able to have a good, good finish and I, I think I could have pushed it

Andrew Hiller (26:49):

Harder. So you weren’t laying down?

Brian Friend (26:52):


Andrew Hiller (26:53):


Sevan Matossian (26:54):

Uh, Greg Glassman, uh, fuck man. Taking some low blows at Mr. Friend here. Uh, Brian had Danny getting fourth at the West. He can’t be trusted. Uh, what happened? I think that’s a little harsh. Uh, Greg, we’ll talk, I

Brian Friend (27:06):

Mean the thing is at breakfast we’ll talk about, the thing is Mr. Greg is, I think it would be fair to say Danny, you know, Brian had Danny fourth, John had Danny Fifth. Neither one of ’em can be trusted. That would be a more fair comment. Hey,

Sevan Matossian (27:17):

What happened to Danny is,

Brian Friend (27:19):

Uh, basically she just didn’t snatch heavy enough. It’s not

Sevan Matossian (27:21):

That the, it’s not that the field was too good, right? Something happened to her if you had to bet. No, she

Brian Friend (27:25):

Snatches five pounds more. She makes the games then we’re not having this conversation. Okay. And she should have snatched

Andrew Hiller (27:29):

That. She missed that lift too. She

Sevan Matossian (27:31):

Excited. Really? We wouldn’t be, if she snatched five pounds more, we wouldn’t be like, hey, um, she still didn’t do too well. Something’s wrong.

Andrew Hiller (27:37):

She had two 15.

Brian Friend (27:38):

No, then we would be saying that she took a risk by going into Saudi Arabia and it and it paid off cuz she had got whatever she wanted out of that trip and she was able to qualify for the games and we’ll probably see a better version of her at the games. But now it looks like, you know, she, I don’t know if she would say that she would do it all over again, you know, and make that trip and miss the games. But if you look at the entire weekend, there’s, you know, there’s some stuff that stands out 44th and 35th on the gymnastics test. Or sorry, 44th and um, 35th on test two and five. So, you know that that running wasn’t great there. And the, and I mean, I don’t think anyone was expecting a great finish for her on the test number two, but 44th is not good. Like,

Andrew Hiller (28:18):

I thought she was gonna massacre the event finale with a to bar like destroy the event record. But she,

John Young (28:25):

She should have had a lot of events where she should have done better. Like, I thought she was gonna do way better than Linda than she did. Um, uh,

Brian Friend (28:31):

She, she was third.

Andrew Hiller (28:33):

She real, she did well on it. But the, the last one is right, Olivia

John Young (28:37):

Beat her though. Like if you think

Brian Friend (28:39):

Olivia, Olivia

Andrew Hiller (28:41):

Has a monster. I’m just saying that’s her jam, dude,

John Young (28:43):

There’s multiple spots where she could have made up three points is all I’m saying.

Andrew Hiller (28:47):

And that’s just the big one though. I think

Brian Friend (28:49):

Linda’s not, she was 23 seconds behind Kaan or

John Young (28:54):

What, what was she in, what was she in event? One

Brian Friend (28:56):


Andrew Hiller (28:57):

Terribly event one. The, the the run and the sled bowl.

John Young (29:03):


Brian Friend (29:03):

I think if you’re just looking for three points that it’s, you don’t need to go any further than the No, this

John Young (29:07):

100%. I’m just saying there’s other spots too.

Brian Friend (29:11):

Yeah, I would agree with you that I think, you know, I I think 13th on test seven was surprising. And as we talked about, if that’s a top 10 finish, then she’s in the games and people who finished top 10 and that have been making the games more often than not, um, who knows? I mean, I, it’s a, it’s a big trip to go to Saudi Arabia and back when I went, when I go to Dubai, I am not in very good, uh, physical space for like usually a week after getting back from there. So to go out there and, and try to compete after that is definitely not advisable if you’re trying to get, have your best performance and she still almost made it. Um,

Sevan Matossian (29:45):

Here’s a really weird question. Uh, how early is Brian arriving to the airport from someone named Anita? Dick and me? Brian, you probably shouldn’t, um, <laugh> unless, well maybe you do want to just tell them when you’re getting to the airport cause that person needs service.

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