CrossFit Games Update SUPER Show – November 4, 2023 – Pedro, Self and Young

Sevan Matossian (00:00):

Pedro? Yeah. Hey dude. They have a new feature where you can just hit B oh and it stamps it and then when you go back into the videos it shows you bam. We’re live. That’s cool, right? Oh, B for what’s really cool, B for butthole.

Taylor Self (00:15):

B from Buttfuck.

Sevan Matossian (00:17):

Welcome to this show. We already have a yellow warning on the show. Great. We are already jacked the algorithm. No Caleb or Souza behind the scenes. I’m sweating profusely To get your CEO jersey, go to Vate. Get it now. They

@coffeepodsnwods (00:38):

Have crashed stuff as well. Sorry to piss on your, they just launched it today.

Sevan Matossian (00:46):

Moment of silence for Pedro’s death and so now you know who Pedro is from Coffee Pods and Wads. The guy who pulled together Matt Torres, Taylor Self and Marconi. Jake. Wow. Why did you do that? Let’s start with, oh, above him, the bald guy is self-made training program’s very own. Taylor Self. Respect the guy more and more every day. What a fucking stud. I think I’m going to put him on the pantheon of CrossFit’s most important thinkers very soon.

@coffeepodsnwods (01:19):

Why did I not get an intro like that?

Taylor Self (01:23):

What makes you say that about me? Well introduce John. Who is that?

Sevan Matossian (01:27):

Who’s the bottom left? John Young, the seven podcast official CrossFit games analyst, senior analyst and guy I respect dearly for his ability to present his games, ideas, thoughts, his passion all in one. He’s not only a critical thinker, but he also allows in moderation emotion to present his thoughts. And it’s not douche nozzle, Steven Smith, but it’s also not fucking ai. Fucking Michael Halpin. Sorry, Michael.

Taylor Self (02:00):

Wow. It’s a nice blend. You’re not quite Steven a which is, that’s over the

Sevan Matossian (02:03):

Top. Yeah. Yeah.

John Young (02:06):

Thank you Chevon.

Sevan Matossian (02:07):

You’re welcome. And if you want Andy, he’s, he’s the strongest guy in the group. Is that true? Taylor? Is he stronger than you?

Taylor Self (02:13):

No, but I had an epiphany. Taylor, come on, Taylor.

Sevan Matossian (02:15):

Whose totals more? Totals

Taylor Self (02:17):

More. Come on Taylor. What total?

Sevan Matossian (02:19):

Let’s just say bench press, deadlift and back

Taylor Self (02:21):

Squat. What was your other total? What were your numbers on the other total?

John Young (02:24):

The other totals. A clean and a bench press.

Taylor Self (02:26):

You didn’t do quarterfinals that year. You didn’t qualify.

John Young (02:30):

I don’t think so.

Taylor Self (02:31):

For quarterfinals.

John Young (02:32):

That was two years ago.

Taylor Self (02:33):

Stop it. You qualified for quarterfinals, you fool.

John Young (02:39):

I don’t think so. I think I was sick during the open and I was like,

Taylor Self (02:43):

Okay, so there’s your answer. Sev. It doesn’t matter.

John Young (02:46):

Taylor’s. Taylor’s fitter. I’m stronger. I’ll claim stronger.

Taylor Self (02:50):

I had a epiphany today that I take feedback. You know the saying like water off a duck’s back.

Sevan Matossian (02:57):


Taylor Self (02:58):

I’m more like water on a dry cotton ball. Hey,

Sevan Matossian (03:03):

Let’s go do this. Oh,

Taylor Self (03:04):

The internet’s

Sevan Matossian (03:04):

Going to destroy you. You’re going to be at fucking internet recovery camp with now O’Brien in no time. Let’s

Taylor Self (03:11):

Go do this. Taylor, what’s your other total? It’s not what we’re here for. Dude, shut up. We want to play this game.

@coffeepodsnwods (03:17):

Mary said she’d give $5 for everyone that’s wearing their toe spacers.

Taylor Self (03:21):

Oh dude, I don’t have a toe spacer on, but look at my fucking grippers.

Sevan Matossian (03:27):

Oh yeah, those are nice. Those are nice toes. What if I wear my toe spacers up here just in my glasses? The whole show like this?

@coffeepodsnwods (03:32):

Yeah, you need spacer. Do

Taylor Self (03:34):

You ever pull your testicles in between them and space those out?

Sevan Matossian (03:37):

Totally. Oh, totally, totally.

@coffeepodsnwods (03:39):

You have five testicles.

Sevan Matossian (03:43):

Hey, I wrap this around. I put my penis in here all the time. Mary doesn’t even know I’ve actually been reselling these on my website. Sev cock rings. Oh gosh. Okay. I have no, so we missed a show because of the

@coffeepodsnwods (04:01):


Sevan Matossian (04:02):

Rogue, rogue. God, it’s so nice here today in California. I can’t believe that. Hot it’s,

@coffeepodsnwods (04:06):

It’s so funny because about five minutes ago I was like, it’s fucking freezing in here. It’s so cold.

Sevan Matossian (04:11):

I was just texting with Greg’s on his way to Africa and I was just texting with them and he’s like, how nice is it there? I’m like, dude, beyond nice. Beyond nice. So we missed a week. So I want to go back and go through my old notes and then we’ll get up to speed. So let me go. Oh look it. There he is. There he is. Lucky camera straps. Taylor takes feedback like water on a feral cat.

Taylor Self (04:35):

That’s better.

Sevan Matossian (04:36):

That’s better. Fuck you dude. Okay, bear with me here. These are old notes. Lemme get through these really quick. I didn’t get to go through these. I prepared for the show last week and then we didn’t get to them because


Get Rogue, rogue. This feels like such a throwback Tater tot. It’s not official until you post a picture with your fittest on earth medal. Right? I think the second one is even more rewarding than the first. So it looks like maybe this guy didn’t get his medal until just now. This guy was a guest on the show. I’d like to have this guy back on soon actually. He was a cool dude and I also noticed this. He runs an adaptive class at his gym and I asked him if there were any other dwarves there and there was just one, but now I think, where did I see? Oh, maybe it was in his story. Oh no, look at this. Look at this is now there’s two,

Taylor Self (05:31):

There’s three.

Sevan Matossian (05:32):

The dwarves are taking over. I repeat. The dwarves are taking over.

@coffeepodsnwods (05:36):

I can’t tell you all they got seven of them.

Sevan Matossian (05:38):

Oh shit. Wow.

Taylor Self (05:43):

They need a day girl. White girl there

Sevan Matossian (05:46):

As well. They need a black guy and a girl.

Taylor Self (05:49):

They get seven of them.

Sevan Matossian (05:51):

Hey, look at the guy’s name. Is Elijah a or seven? Anyway, congratulations. Does anyone know what that is on that Dog’s Nose? Do you guys know what that is? That’s called a

Taylor Self (06:04):


Sevan Matossian (06:05):

No. A gentle leader. A gentle leader. It looks aggressive but it’s not. It’s a very gentle. Anyway, congratulations on finally getting your medal. I did hear that the games athletes have not been paid their prize money yet. Has anyone else? That

@coffeepodsnwods (06:20):

Is insane. Someone told it was a covid. Someone said that to me.

Taylor Self (06:24):

Pretty typical.

@coffeepodsnwods (06:25):

It is. I mean, it’s typically shit like how can I take them this long?

Taylor Self (06:29):

I’ve heard, I’ve heard that it’s, I’ve heard pretty standard to take them this long,

@coffeepodsnwods (06:34):

But the

Sevan Matossian (06:34):

Last, how did I not ask Jason or Pat Vellner that they’re

Taylor Self (06:39):

Scared that if they speak out against it, they won’t ever see it?

Sevan Matossian (06:42):

Well, I should have asked them. Pat’s not Jason and Pat aren’t scared.

@coffeepodsnwods (06:45):

Well then Colton didn’t tell me as crash that he hasn’t been paid.

Taylor Self (06:49):

It took Water Palooza like seven months to pay me water.

@coffeepodsnwods (06:52):

Palooza is the worst

Sevan Matossian (06:53):

One out of everybody.

Taylor Self (06:54):

I texted Matt O’Keefe every single day until I got my money. I’m not

@coffeepodsnwods (06:59):

Kidding. I’m at HP owners, bro, leave me alone.

Sevan Matossian (07:04):

Should I call Colton?

Taylor Self (07:05):

You should call fucking Dave and ask him what the fuck their problem is.

Sevan Matossian (07:10):

Oh God. Just call Dave and be like, Hey, why haven’t you paid your athletes? Lemme call Colton first and be like, Hey dude, have you guys been paid? Let’s see.

@coffeepodsnwods (07:20):

Call Laura and ask her.

Sevan Matossian (07:22):

Can you guys hear that?

@coffeepodsnwods (07:23):


Sevan Matossian (07:27):

Don’t listen to that. I heard you can figure out what Colton’s number is by just hearing me punch in.

@coffeepodsnwods (07:33):

Geez, I just heard my own past with that noise.

Sevan Matossian (07:37):

This isn’t what your phone sounds like in Game of Throne. Colton. Hey, this is Stevon

Speaker 5 (07:44):

Stevon the hell.

Sevan Matossian (07:46):

We’re live on the air and we have a question for you.

Speaker 5 (07:50):


Sevan Matossian (07:51):

Has prize money been paid to games athletes yet?

Speaker 5 (07:57):

We got paid for semifinals a couple weeks ago, but haven’t heard anything for the games prize money yet.

Sevan Matossian (08:02):

And is this normal from your previous games experiences?

Speaker 5 (08:09):

No. It seems to be a little bit later. I think last year we got an email to fill out paperwork like mid-October, so we haven’t even gotten that yet. And then after that it’s usually a month from there.

Sevan Matossian (08:25):

Are you frustrated or is this just the life of a professional athlete? It’s okay. What’s a couple months, whatever? Or is it like, come on, dude, this is fucking three months ago. Let’s do this.

Speaker 5 (08:37):

It’s not too far outside the typical timeline yet, but it’d be nice to get paid by now. But it does make you wonder if maybe there’s something going on with drug testing that’s causing the delay because it’s a little bit later than the last year.

Sevan Matossian (08:51):

Ooh, wow. Colton stirs the pot. I think about and one more question. Have you been paid for Crash Crucible yet?

Speaker 5 (08:58):

Yeah, we got paid for even left.

Sevan Matossian (09:00):

Oh shit. Really? JR gives you the money right there.

@coffeepodsnwods (09:04):

Ask him who he thinks is causing the drug issues.

Sevan Matossian (09:07):

Who do you thinks Pedro wants to know if you have any thoughts on who might be causing the drug issues? All of them.

Taylor Self (09:17):

All of them.

Sevan Matossian (09:18):

All of fair enough. Alright, love you buddy. Can’t wait to have you back on. Hey, your clip, your trip to Pedro’s house. The Pedro podcast was amazing. Congratulations. Some great stuff there man.

Speaker 5 (09:27):

Thanks V. Talk

Sevan Matossian (09:29):

To you soon. Alright, bye. As they say in the hood, he’s a legend.

Taylor Self (09:35):

Hey, what do you think about running with the dumbbells? Fuck you don’t even

Sevan Matossian (09:41):

Laugh. Running with the dumbbell.

Taylor Self (09:43):


@coffeepodsnwods (09:45):

Just one

Taylor Self (09:46):


@coffeepodsnwods (09:48):

It’d be like a sandbag.

Sevan Matossian (09:50):

I don’t know. I don’t have, don’t an opinion on it. I honestly do think you have to be careful though if you’re going to do shit like that in an affiliate, especially with one heavy dumbbell. We did a story one times for the CrossFit journal, Mariah Morney. What’s heavy? I dunno. I think this dude was carrying like a 50. Is there a 53 pound kettlebell? Yeah,

Taylor Self (10:08):


Sevan Matossian (10:09):

I can find it dumbbell. I can find it in the journal. But basically the guy turned a corner and something happened from the way to the dumbbell and it fucking threw his back out and fucking paralyzed the dude and he didn’t

Taylor Self (10:20):

Want, oh my God, dude, cancel the fucking show, dude. Go off the air. That’s exactly what he wanted to hear. What the fuck, dude?

Sevan Matossian (10:29):

You think I’m just a worried sissy dad like, come on, quit being a pussy. It’s one in

Taylor Self (10:32):

Billion. It’s more functional than moving an object from A to B. How

@coffeepodsnwods (10:36):

Heavy is the dumbbell and how far is

Taylor Self (10:37):

You? It’s a 50 pound dumbbell.

Sevan Matossian (10:39):

Yeah, I think for you and Jason to run with it, it’s

Taylor Self (10:42):

For an elite athlete.

Sevan Matossian (10:43):

Yeah, I think it’s fine.

@coffeepodsnwods (10:45):

How far is the, A couple half miles

Taylor Self (10:47):

At a time. It’s two half mile runs

@coffeepodsnwods (10:49):

And you can carry it wherever in your hand or

Taylor Self (10:51):

On your Yeah, you can fucking squeeze that thing between your butt. Kakowski told the athletes to roll up a towel and tape it under your shirt, but what he didn’t know is we’re actually providing, we have a special piece of equipment we’re actually providing for athletes and other pussies like him these.

Sevan Matossian (11:12):

Wow. You are not providing

Taylor Self (11:15):

That? No, I’m not providing that to.

Sevan Matossian (11:18):

So Charlotte Classic, you’re running with 50 pound dumbbell. Is that leaked out? Is that first time you’ve announced that?

Taylor Self (11:22):

No, I’ve announced it, but there’s a Reddit thread

@coffeepodsnwods (11:25):

Is a Reddit threat about it and Wakowski was commenting.

Taylor Self (11:28):

Wakowski called it stupid and it hurt my feelings.

Sevan Matossian (11:30):

Oh really? Did he wakowski iss on Reddit?

Taylor Self (11:33):

I know that’s odd, huh?

@coffeepodsnwods (11:35):

And the fact that he’s

Sevan Matossian (11:37):

Actively, Hey dude, there’s no way Wakowski is on Reddit.

@coffeepodsnwods (11:41):

It is him. Yeah, I bet he set up an account for an asked me anything on Reddit and then he just kept it just a lurk and see what topics have

Sevan Matossian (11:49):

Come up and forth. When I think of anyone who goes on Reddit, I think of him as the same kind of people who use glory holes and don’t care if it’s a guy or chicks sucking their dick. I swear to God. I think of Reddit as just, I just think it’s the most vile place on planet earth.

@coffeepodsnwods (12:06):

It’s fair. It’s pretty tame. I was never on it before and I joined it because they kept talking about it. I

Taylor Self (12:11):

Wanted what Reddit thread are you want?

Sevan Matossian (12:14):

Anytime anyone sends me there fucking, it’s fucking gross.

@coffeepodsnwods (12:18):

I but the only one, I

John Young (12:19):

Reddit’s a place. You get what you’re looking

@coffeepodsnwods (12:21):

For. The only one I’m on. It’s a

Sevan Matossian (12:23):

CrossFit one. Yeah. The only one I’ve been on is a CrossFit one too. It’s fucking me. It’s

@coffeepodsnwods (12:27):


Sevan Matossian (12:28):

It’s Coward Central. I personally would, I never go there. I don’t go there. Or Facebook. If anyone sends me a link to either of those, I don’t go to either of those Facebook for different reasons. I just don’t want that shit populating in my phone.

John Young (12:41):

I read a couple of sports Reddits, like the Mizzou football Reddit page and it just, it’s just

@coffeepodsnwods (12:47):

Sports. Oh, Mizzou.

Sevan Matossian (12:48):

It is. It’s clean. It’s not like I, but fuck that guy’s Mom and blah blah, blah. It’s,

@coffeepodsnwods (12:54):

It doesn’t like that either.

Sevan Matossian (12:55):

The CrossFit you Reddit pages. Oh yes, they are

@coffeepodsnwods (13:00):

Tier lifters. Just say, is beta alanine bad for you? Do you ever see the suggestion? Ones that come up, pages that you don’t follow and they’re like adverts in between? One of them just came up there.

John Young (13:09):

His suggested stuff is not good stuff.

@coffeepodsnwods (13:13):

I don’t

Sevan Matossian (13:13):

Even this one R CrossFit is pure garbage. Yeah, that thing.

@coffeepodsnwods (13:18):

Yeah. That’s the one I’m on.

Taylor Self (13:19):

Well, let’s go back to my feelings. Do we think that, first off, is he allowed to comment and call that stupid when he takes smelling salts before a CrossFit workout?

@coffeepodsnwods (13:30):

Ows? I’d say I don’t think he wants, he has aged like a fine wine.

Taylor Self (13:34):

Has he?

@coffeepodsnwods (13:35):

Yeah. Has.

Taylor Self (13:37):

I think he’s aged like

Sevan Matossian (13:37):

A big, he said running with the 50 pound dumbbell. Stupid.

Taylor Self (13:40):


Sevan Matossian (13:41):

He said that Is everybody

John Young (13:42):

Entitled to their opinion?

Taylor Self (13:43):

He said, said verbatim. Let me read it.

@coffeepodsnwods (13:46):

You’re not going to be able to see it.

Sevan Matossian (13:47):

I still don’t believe it’s him though. I think

Taylor Self (13:49):

He’s No, it’s a hundred percent him. A hundred

Sevan Matossian (13:50):

Percent. Dude, there’s no way someone of his persona or perceived sophistication goes on Reddit. This is how you

Taylor Self (13:57):

Know it’s truly him. It’s because the username is Brent Fki, PFAA, whatever. So he’s even got his doctorate in

@coffeepodsnwods (14:06):

Crime. His name is Brent Ow. AMA, which is ask me anything, which solidifies my point that he’d send it up himself for and ask me anything. Oh

Taylor Self (14:15):

My God. Didn’t he say he would never do GHS after he quits competing?

Sevan Matossian (14:20):

I also think that people who do ask me anything for the most part are douche bags of the highest

Taylor Self (14:27):

Level. This gives

@coffeepodsnwods (14:29):

Do it by a sponsor. I say

Sevan Matossian (14:32):

At least that’s a little bit better if you’re paid to do it by sponsor. But these people who post on their, I’m on a plane, I’m about to board a plane, ask me questions and I’ll answer them for you. I just think

Taylor Self (14:45):

He did that.

Sevan Matossian (14:46):

I just want to vomit. God, you’re douche Pedro. Damn. You’re douche. What? Three people asked you a question. Who the fuck wants to know anything about you?

@coffeepodsnwods (14:56):

Your mom?

Sevan Matossian (14:59):

It was like 12 from my mom.

@coffeepodsnwods (15:01):

When you getting here? Still up. I

Taylor Self (15:04):

Left the key.

Sevan Matossian (15:05):

When is the behind the scenes? Good question. I don’t know. When

@coffeepodsnwods (15:11):

The athletes get their money, that’s when the behind the

Sevan Matossian (15:13):

Scenes. Yeah. Thank you. I’ve seen two of them. They’re absolutely amazing.

Taylor Self (15:21):

I’ve never done an AMA Alex,

Sevan Matossian (15:26):

Mary Monsour, Danielle. Brandon does this twice a week. I know. Trust me. I know.

Taylor Self (15:31):

What do you ask her?

Sevan Matossian (15:32):

Who me? Yeah. I don’t ever respond to those. Nothing I ask would be appropriate.

@coffeepodsnwods (15:41):

Someone asked me the other day on mine if I was annoyed that you said that you didn’t like the programming show.

Sevan Matossian (15:48):

Oh yeah.

Taylor Self (15:49):

You said you didn’t like our show. What the fuck,

Sevan Matossian (15:51):

Dude? I couldn’t made halfway through it. I’m like, Hey, at least I watched it. I’ve never even watched Shut up and scribble.

Taylor Self (15:57):

Wow. Which is, well, I’ve watched like three of your shows. They’ve all had me on it. Well you asked, didn’t you ask Pedro why he did the show

Sevan Matossian (16:09):

And we didn’t. Let’s get to that in a second. Hold on. Lemme make that. Okay, so we already talked, this is about Rory was on the Lone Ranger podcast. We talked about that. Did we talk about

@coffeepodsnwods (16:20):

That? Rory was on another podcast yesterday.

Sevan Matossian (16:22):

He was the Lone Ranger podcast. He was almost weird. I think we already fucking ground. We did about that. Okay, so that’s that. Okay, so then there’s this, I want to show you guys these

@coffeepodsnwods (16:36):

Clips. That’s the entirety of the notes. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (16:38):

Oh, I dunno if I showed this to you guys already. You guys beat me up for Shannon. Okay, here, let show you this. This is jump roping. This is the fastest. I think this is the fastest jump roper in the world,

Taylor Self (16:51):

Buddy Lee.

Sevan Matossian (16:52):

And I’ve never seen anyone use this technique. Oh,

@coffeepodsnwods (16:56):

It’s some Asian kid.

Taylor Self (16:58):

Oh, that was racist.

Sevan Matossian (17:00):

I’ve never seen anyone use this technique in the games. And so why is that? You ready? Here we go.

Taylor Self (17:10):

Dude. That’s because all these guys are the gang suck at jump roping, bro. If they knew what they were doing, they’d look like that.

Sevan Matossian (17:19):

How come

@coffeepodsnwods (17:20):


Taylor Self (17:21):

It looks like he could, how do

@coffeepodsnwods (17:22):

You count?

Sevan Matossian (17:23):

I heard you count four at a time in count four. Hey, so how easy would it be to fucking pick this technique up and just fucking destroy every one at double unders?

John Young (17:52):

Well, those are single unders.

Sevan Matossian (17:53):

Yeah, but you can just work that a little bit. I

@coffeepodsnwods (17:56):

Don’t need double under do them that fast. No one’s going to

John Young (17:58):

Doubt it. That’s fair. Nobody would doubt you. I think that Annie girl, do you know the double under Annie Girl?

Taylor Self (18:07):

Hey, let’s go into your messages.

Sevan Matossian (18:09):

Do you know

John Young (18:11):

She had 10 minutes straight, 10 minutes straight. Worse than red of double lenders, a thousand double lenders in a row.

Sevan Matossian (18:21):

I do kind of want to show you how many did she do?

@coffeepodsnwods (18:23):

What’s the word record for doubles

John Young (18:24):

A thousand. I mean, I think she has it a

Taylor Self (18:27):

Thousand unbroken.

John Young (18:28):

She does a thousand unbroken once a year. Every year. She just goes 10 minutes straight without stopping.

Taylor Self (18:33):

Oh, I can do that.

John Young (18:34):

Travis Mayer took lessons from her a long time ago. She’s called double under Annie. If you look her up on YouTube, there is nobody better at double unders than this girl

@coffeepodsnwods (18:43):

Taylor, if you did a thousand double unders unbroken tomorrow, you wouldn’t be able to walk for three weeks.

Sevan Matossian (18:49):

Is it all one word? Double under Annie? I guess it has

John Young (18:52):

To be. I don’t think it’s one. I don’t know

Sevan Matossian (18:56):

Her name. I can’t find her double under. Andy. I

Taylor Self (18:58):

Might pee myself yourself when you’re doing

Sevan Matossian (19:00):

Double under. Double under Annie. I see. Bend over Annie. I don’t see double under. Annie, are you

John Young (19:03):

On Reddit again?

Taylor Self (19:05):

I agree with Mason. I think the world record for double unders has got to be way more than a thousand

John Young (19:09):

Hundred percent. It might be. She’s the best double under person that I’ve ever seen. When you look up people who are really good at double

Sevan Matossian (19:17):

Unders, there’s a Instagram account called Double Under Wonder. Anyway, Hey, that could be what sets the training camps apart. I missed it. What did someone say?

@coffeepodsnwods (19:32):

Say it

Taylor Self (19:33):

Was a visual. People who aren’t good at double unders.

@coffeepodsnwods (19:37):

John said that’s what it comes up when you look up. People are good at double unders. I was like, who searches that?

John Young (19:42):

Yeah, she came up. Yeah.

Taylor Self (19:44):

Oh my God.

Sevan Matossian (19:46):


John Young (19:47):

That’s how I learned to lift. I was like, people who are good at snatch and it came up China up. That’s how you learned how to snatch.

Sevan Matossian (19:56):

So why not? In all seriousness, Taylor, why don’t we see athletes doing ’em like that? If that’s the faster way to do it?

Taylor Self (20:02):

Double unders.

Sevan Matossian (20:03):


Taylor Self (20:04):

I don’t think that’s a fast. It might be a faster way to do double unders, but when you’re all hunched over like that, there’s no efficient way to breathe. So as soon as you have to mix something else with it.

Sevan Matossian (20:12):

So you’re saying that those people who set the world record don’t actually have the fastest times? You’re saying you know better than them?

Taylor Self (20:18):

No. They probably have the fastest times at double unders, I would imagine. But mix it with something else.

Sevan Matossian (20:24):

Alright. I think you should look into it.

Taylor Self (20:27):

I’m sure Kowski has.

Sevan Matossian (20:29):

It could be What sets self-made training apart from proven? Okay. Danny Spiegel went to a pickleball court I heard and was wearing a top that was too small. This

@coffeepodsnwods (20:42):

Is so funny. All these stories are two weeks ago. It’s so obvious that we missed a show

Sevan Matossian (20:47):

And a man said he felt uncomfortable and so it was inappropriate. And you reported her the facility asked her to change or leave. And what I heard was then she left but then posted a bunch of angry stories pointed back at the facility.

Taylor Self (21:02):

They didn’t like my boobs. Oh my God.

Sevan Matossian (21:05):

And then I heard that she pulled the story down and I was thinking, Hey, she probably pulled the story down because unlike Hiller who had his Instagram account taken away and it’s no big deal. He just starts another one. I think she would be devastated if she lost her Instagram account. Right. So if someone reported her for bullying and she went down from her 1.8 million just got taken from her, do you think she’d be devastated? I think she’d be fucking reeling. That’s

@coffeepodsnwods (21:27):

Livelihood. Yeah.

Taylor Self (21:28):

She’d lose all her money,

Sevan Matossian (21:30):

Get fired from, and I don’t think she’d ever go up over 200 again. What do you think? A two

Taylor Self (21:35):

40? I don’t think she’d get past. Oh, she’d a hundred percent. Get past it. Dude, she doesn’t have a CrossFit following. She

Sevan Matossian (21:40):

Don’t think she’d make it past two 40. I don’t think she makes it as two 40.

Taylor Self (21:44):

She would go back to a million in a week. The algorithm, all she does is post a picture of her ass. Yeah. And every

Sevan Matossian (21:51):

Dude is, but I don’t think so.

@coffeepodsnwods (21:52):

I agree with Taylor on

Taylor Self (21:53):

This. It’s like

Sevan Matossian (21:54):

Pedro. Pedro.

@coffeepodsnwods (21:56):

Yeah. She rock it up.

Sevan Matossian (21:58):

God, I wish I knew how to do a poll. Do you know how to do poles?

@coffeepodsnwods (22:02):


Taylor Self (22:02):

Just take a butt shot and you’ll get a million followers.

Sevan Matossian (22:05):

Oh, okay. I’ll do that tonight. Just

Taylor Self (22:07):

Do that.

Sevan Matossian (22:07):


Taylor Self (22:09):

Same thing. John. You want more followers?

@coffeepodsnwods (22:11):

What do I need to

Taylor Self (22:12):

Do? Put them panties on, boy and bend over. Take a picture. Take a selfie.

@coffeepodsnwods (22:17):

Molly met this show taking a turn. Double under Molly, Molly Met. That’s her name. Okay. You ever heard of her?

Sevan Matossian (22:24):

I have heard of her.

Taylor Self (22:24):

She’s got what? Zombie said she’d get 500,000 per cheek.

Sevan Matossian (22:31):

God, he’s funny.

@coffeepodsnwods (22:33):

Very holy.

Sevan Matossian (22:34):

Mike McCaskey. She’s right. I don’t think so. I dont think so.

@coffeepodsnwods (22:38):

Dude. Like a dumb ass poll. Put why in the comments if you agreed that she’d rock it or follow. And we’ll take the first 20 votes as a

Sevan Matossian (22:46):

Strong, I don’t know how to make a poll. I don’t know how to make a poll. No,

@coffeepodsnwods (22:48):

Just get say it in the comments. Why if they think she would and n if they think she wouldn’t, and then just count the first 20 comments.

Taylor Self (22:54):

How many followers would I get if I posted my tuck shot?

Sevan Matossian (22:56):

Hey, think you get

@coffeepodsnwods (22:58):


Sevan Matossian (22:59):

Is Frazier wearing Rads in here?

@coffeepodsnwods (23:02):


Sevan Matossian (23:03):

Is he sponsored by Rad?

@coffeepodsnwods (23:05):


Sevan Matossian (23:08):

Explain. Someone explained to me, isn’t he a Nike athlete

@coffeepodsnwods (23:11):


Taylor Self (23:12):

No, his contract is up, man. He’s,

Sevan Matossian (23:15):

It’s a great photo of him.

Taylor Self (23:17):

Where is that?

@coffeepodsnwods (23:19):

I don’t know. That’s at the Running Man thing. Five K. I think only one person. No, nobody’s agreed with you yet, Savannah. Everyone’s saying yes.

Sevan Matossian (23:33):

Yeah, but they don’t know shit.

@coffeepodsnwods (23:36):

You ran the pole.

Sevan Matossian (23:40):

All right, so Fraser wears Rads.

@coffeepodsnwods (23:44):

They’re a good shoe.

Sevan Matossian (23:45):

You think so?

@coffeepodsnwods (23:46):

I think so. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (23:47):

You have ’em?

@coffeepodsnwods (23:48):

Yeah, I have the Running Runners and the gym, the Rad ones and the OR ones. I like them both. Did the only shoe I’ve ever worn that I could wear traveling airport, whatever, and not have a yearning to take them off. Not be like, oh fuck, get these off when I get home.

Sevan Matossian (24:09):

Did you have skinny feet? Could you wear the Metcon?

@coffeepodsnwods (24:13):

I could, but I didn’t. Like it was very sloppy or I dunno. I just didn’t like, just didn’t like it.

Sevan Matossian (24:19):

Yeah. I can’t wear Metcon.

@coffeepodsnwods (24:20):

The older

Sevan Matossian (24:21):

Nano Metcon. I can’t even get my foot into Met Con’s. So Skinny.

@coffeepodsnwods (24:25):


Taylor Self (24:25):

Peter, how many pairs

John Young (24:26):

Of shoes do you guys have?

Sevan Matossian (24:29):


Taylor Self (24:30):

Probably have like 15.

Sevan Matossian (24:31):


John Young (24:33):

That you consistently wear?

Sevan Matossian (24:35):


Taylor Self (24:35):

1, 3, 2.

John Young (24:39):


Taylor Self (24:40):

Hey Peter, have you ever heard of Naked Martin?

@coffeepodsnwods (24:43):

Don’t. Yeah, I’ve fucking heard. Tyner sends me him the whole time. Don’t show this.

Taylor Self (24:49):

Don’t look it up.

Sevan Matossian (24:51):

Is it games related? I’m not. I’m not.

Taylor Self (24:53):

I’m not. No. It’s full on not games related. And it’s actually Naked Wiener, so if you’re in the comments, don’t look that up.

@coffeepodsnwods (25:00):

I want to try the strike movements.

Taylor Self (25:02):

Dude, so do I. Brian has a pair, wears ’em to the gym all the time. I really got to get a pair of those.

@coffeepodsnwods (25:08):

Yeah, I want to try them.

Sevan Matossian (25:09):

I want to show you a, this is old also, and this is the last old thing I’m going to show you, and then we’ll go to new stuff. Okay. You ready? This is from Brook Wells Instagram account. It says, why did you leave? Proven. Okay. A lot of these, so here’s your brief answer. Oh, this is like an ask me anything. Why do people do these? You think this is good for

Taylor Self (25:36):

She wasn’t getting individualized programming.

Sevan Matossian (25:39):

Don’t ruin it. Don’t ruin it. Jesus. Sorry.

@coffeepodsnwods (25:44):

Roll caster is ticking Sivan.

Sevan Matossian (25:46):

Oh, thank you. Okay. A lot of these, so here’s your brief answer. I need individualized programming at this level, and I wasn’t getting that anymore. Also, a very large group of training partners is not for me and had become that I prefer one to two daily training partners. Max Taylor, go ahead. You’re astonished. You’re like, whoa, you weren’t getting individualized programming that you’re shocked at that.

Taylor Self (26:12):

Yeah. Are you kidding me?

Sevan Matossian (26:14):

Massive. Tell shocked why she’s, she’s too good to be doing at her level. Fine tuning the machine. It needs to be specific for her. She’s reached such a high level that it needs to be someone who’s working with her strengths and weaknesses.

Taylor Self (26:27):

For the most part. Yeah, for the most part. If her goal to win the game,

John Young (26:30):

It’s not for the camp to not give her individualized training.

Taylor Self (26:33):

Right. It’s best for the camp. It’s not best for her if her goal is to, I’m saying,

John Young (26:36):

Gets nuts, but the camp does not doing that.

Taylor Self (26:40):

I think it makes it easier for them if all their athletes are doing the same workouts.

John Young (26:43):

She’s the second best girl they have. I feel like everybody should be divvied up in their own thing.

Taylor Self (26:50):

Well, they clearly fucked up, up,

John Young (26:52):

But you agree with that. Your elite athletes shouldn’t be doing the same things.

Taylor Self (26:59):

They should all be doing things individualized to their weaknesses, individualized to their deficiencies, individualized to their strengths, individualized to their nicks and booboos. Because at that level you carry those around and you have to work around them and you ask any training camp. That’s a hard part about training partners. It’s like, oh, this person’s feeling weird here. I feel fine there. And trying to come together and do something that both of you’re going to benefit from is challenging. I think that’s fucking crazy that she was not getting individualized programming.

Sevan Matossian (27:34):

Do you think when she says that she knows she’s taking shots and she’s opening up a can of worms, does she know like, Hey,

John Young (27:41):

I mean, it’s the honest truth of why she left.

Taylor Self (27:44):

I agree.

@coffeepodsnwods (27:44):

I think does it heap on pressure then for this year because now she will be so then’s like if she doesn’t have a better season this season, do you know what I mean? It’s like adding more pressure to her, as I would’ve just said. Nothing to be honest

John Young (27:54):

With you. I mean, I don’t believe people care about her near as much as they used to.

Sevan Matossian (27:58):

What’s the best? What do you think is the best? Just quickly, just off the top of your head, what is the best place if training camp out there? Taylor?

Taylor Self (28:06):

The best training camp.

Sevan Matossian (28:07):

Yeah. If you had to go to one, which one would you go to?

Taylor Self (28:10):

I wouldn’t go to

Sevan Matossian (28:11):

One. John, which one would you go to?

John Young (28:13):

Brute Strength.

Sevan Matossian (28:14):

Yep. Me too. Me too. I’d go straight to Torre. Pedro, where would you go?

Taylor Self (28:18):

The camp. You’d go to

Sevan Matossian (28:19):

Torres? Yep. Yep.

Taylor Self (28:20):

The camp where everyone just left?

Sevan Matossian (28:22):

Yep. Yep. All right. Yep. Let’s see how they do next year.

Taylor Self (28:26):


Sevan Matossian (28:27):

Let’s see how they’d do next year.

John Young (28:28):

People did fine this year.

Sevan Matossian (28:30):

Let’s see how all those athletes do next year. Dude, I’m telling you, depends on what you want not for. I would send Jason Hopper over to Mayhem.

Taylor Self (28:41):

Listen, mayhem has a culture where those athletes are, this could be completely not true, but it strikes me that athletes like Samuel Ye, Luke Parker, have enough of a head on their shoulders to know when they need to be working on one particular thing over another, and they make the adjustments that they need to make.

John Young (28:59):

They don’t wait to get told what to do,

Taylor Self (29:02):

Right? Yeah. You only do this look, and at the same time, if you’re at that level and you don’t have a brain to think for yourself, good fucking luck winning ever.

Sevan Matossian (29:14):

How about when Jr? How about when Hopper said today on the podcast, did JR sent him workouts all the time? Did that get your little fucking antenna up? Anyone that got my fucking antenna up?

Taylor Self (29:25):

What do you mean?

Sevan Matossian (29:27):

I don’t know. It just made me a little, just made me, I needed to maybe read into it a little bit or something.

@coffeepodsnwods (29:37):

I think JR just cares about him. Wants him to do well.

Taylor Self (29:40):

He word JR. Sends workouts to me all the time.

Sevan Matossian (29:43):

Yeah, but you’re not with the training camp. You’re not with the fucking best training camp in the world. HWPO.

Taylor Self (29:47):

Is it the best training camp

Sevan Matossian (29:49):

In the world? No. I just told you Matt Torres is.

Taylor Self (29:51):

That’s not either. None of them are the best. Well, we

Sevan Matossian (29:53):

Out vote. Listen, listen. I’m going to acquiesce and say that Danny Spiegel might get a million Instagram followers again if she.

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