CrossFit Games Update Show | Young, Watkins & Self – CF Media TAKE OVER is Complete

Sevan Matossian (00:00):

Pillars pulled up. Oh, Adler. Adler’s got it. Bam. We’re live. Adler’s got a YouTube station.

Tyler Watkins (00:07):

Yeah, I saw that video today.

Sevan Matossian (00:09):

What do you guys think? Hey Taylor. What’s up dude, Taylor from Self-Made training program. John Young from John Young Barbell Tyler Watkins from the Heat One app. Matt Sue’s, executive producer of the Avon podcast. Good to see you. Surprise, surprise, surprise. I’m

Tyler Watkins (00:23):


Sevan Matossian (00:24):

He cleaned the floors in the gym yesterday so he could be here today. Damn.

Taylor Self (00:28):

We don’t know Caleb. We get Matt the og.

Sevan Matossian (00:32):

Hey dude Taylor. Caleb is done with his service. I think he’s going to National Guard so I might have him every morning now.

Taylor Self (00:39):

Wow. You know he is doing my programming. He’s loving it, I think. Is he? I

Sevan Matossian (00:42):

Think he is too. I think and you could tell

Taylor Self (00:46):

John, how much did that tank cost? I don’t know. My dad got it for me. What? That’s sick. Yeah. Alright, I’m going to text my dad. Or jr, same thing. My birthday was not too long ago. We got it from my birthday.

Sevan Matossian (01:06):

Taylor, did you see the video, the second video Now Andrew Hillers come up with a second video bringing up T to me’s, possible steroid use.

Taylor Self (01:17):

I saw, I posted about it but I didn’t watch it. I did like his comparison of Danny to Jennifer Coolidge.

Sevan Matossian (01:24):

Oh shit. Someone said that’s, let me, let’s finish Tia first. Any thoughts about that? About Tia? So I called him, I’m like, dude, what are you doing? And he’s like, dude, I fucking, I’m para, I’m paraphrasing but I have no issues with the juice. Juice up, juice all you want. But I think my understanding was if you’re going to sell programming, at least be honest of what you’re taking, supplements you’re taking with the programming.

Taylor Self (01:54):

I think he’s just riding this train to his death. He’s going to ride it until the wheels fall off. I think he thinks he has some steroids and he is not going to back down from it. Look, he believes what he believes and I don’t think he’s

Tyler Watkins (02:11):


Taylor Self (02:11):

Making content, content just to get views. I think he believes it. I think he believes

Tyler Watkins (02:16):

It too.

Sevan Matossian (02:17):

Oh definitely. I think he believes it too. He’s definitely not being false and it’s not like this is a whim. He’s been sitting on this. I don’t have very much

Taylor Self (02:24):

Information that leads to that though. He just, it’s subjective. It’s like you look like you’re using steroids and that’s fine. I think

Sevan Matossian (02:34):

Except it’s in our family, it’s kind of in our family. Is it or am I being too nostalgic and like, hey up thousand 23. It’s like our community, it’s like is it too much to just subjectively say that from inside our own community?

Tyler Watkins (02:51):

I get what you’re saying. I was watching somebody like a sports analyst for somebody else and they were like, fuck the Mets. And I was like, could you imagine the same thing if somebody was like, fuck training think tank. You know what I mean? It’s like we’re too familial to do that like you’re saying but at the same time like

Taylor Self (03:09):

Nah, fuck ’em.

Sevan Matossian (03:12):

Okay. Yeah. So let me run with what Tyler’s saying. So Tyler’s saying that even if Fraser thinks that fucking, I don’t know, training think tank sucks, he’s not going to say it

Tyler Watkins (03:25):


Sevan Matossian (03:26):

You know what I mean? He’s not going to say it because we’re all swimming in kind of a fish bowl

Tyler Watkins (03:31):

Together. We haven’t made it and so everybody wants to play nice until we make it and then when you’re Alabama and Georgia you’re like, fuck Alabama. Fuck Georgia. There’s so much animosity and it’s like that’s accepted. But in our sport it’s not. For some reason I think it’s, we’re so small

Taylor Self (03:48):

We’re new. It’s the leather helmet stage. I don’t know. I don’t have a problem with him accusing Tia. I have no idea dude. I mean she’s fricking ripped, but I know other women who are ripped who I have such a hard time believing. I don’t believe they’re taking anything, so I don’t believe that the You’re

Sevan Matossian (04:05):

Pretty ripped. You’re pretty ripped. You’re pretty ripped.

Taylor Self (04:09):

Yeah. I’m definitely not taking steroids. For someone to say that to me would be an amazing compliment. But also I

Sevan Matossian (04:16):

People are going to say that as soon as you make it to the games, people are going to say that.

Taylor Self (04:20):

I also don’t have the lowest body fat right now and I’m not trying to, I’m eating a lot.

Sevan Matossian (04:25):

You’ve seen the slow mos where your cameraman’s putting you was putting you in front of Michelle. I know what the fuck’s going on. I I’ve seen the veins bouncing around in there,

Taylor Self (04:34):

But that’s what I’m saying. I mean when you train five hours

Tyler Watkins (04:37):

A day

Taylor Self (04:38):

Or four hours a day

Tyler Watkins (04:39):


Taylor Self (04:39):

And all of it’s at fucking the margin of your capacity and all of it’s super intense. You’re going to look so different. Just so different. I mean different bodybuilders.

Sevan Matossian (04:53):

I want to talk about Hiller specific inappropriate or okay, what Hiller’s doing.

Taylor Self (04:56):

I think it’s fine. I like that there’s a guy who’s fucking saying the things that a lot of people think but don’t have the balls to say. I love Hiller for that. One of the biggest issues I have with our society is a lot of people think a lot of things but they’re scared to say it and fear for fear of, oh this person’s not going to like me or he doesn’t give a fuck and I love

Tyler Watkins (05:14):

It. Not John

Sevan Matossian (05:15):


Taylor Self (05:16):

And he’s also the nicest. This is the other thing, dude. He’s the most loyal, fucking coolest dude. He’s way nicer than I am. I’m pretty much the same in persons. I am here. I can be a dick and Hiller’s probably a thousand times nicer. I

Sevan Matossian (05:31):

Don’t think you’re supposed to agree Tyler. I don’t think he nodded that one,

Taylor Self (05:36):

But Hiller’s way nicer also in person. I mean he’s such a good person. He doesn’t,

Sevan Matossian (05:42):

Do you agree with what he’s saying? You like someone who says what’s on their mind even in times this, are

Tyler Watkins (05:47):

You asking John this?

Sevan Matossian (05:48):

Yeah, John like John, your aunt walks in and your grandma’s like you got fat. You think that’s cool just in front of the whole family.

Taylor Self (05:57):

Maybe My aunt didn’t know she was fat until that time. I agree with Taylor. I don’t think he has a hidden agenda behind what he says either and I think everybody’s entitled to their opinion. I don’t think Tia has taken Roy’s

Taylor Self (06:13):

But he, it’s not hidden. It’s an agenda but it’s not hidden.

Taylor Self (06:16):

Yes. Yeah, yeah, but he’s just like you said,

Sevan Matossian (06:19):

You don’t but you’re saying that and you also think Tia is clean.

Taylor Self (06:23):


Sevan Matossian (06:25):

Tyler, are you

Taylor Self (06:26):

Okay? I have just as much proof that she’s clean that Hiller does proof that she’s dirty. I will say I do think Hiller is usually way, way more informed on most of the topics that he talks about versus

Taylor Self (06:39):

This topic.

Taylor Self (06:41):

Meaning he’s just saying this because he thinks it he doesn’t have test or

Sevan Matossian (06:48):

Hey, I don’t think he would say this unless he was willing to bet a hundred grand on it. I think he’s willing to bet his house on this. He

Taylor Self (06:56):

Might lose his house.

Sevan Matossian (06:58):

Don’t think he would.

Taylor Self (06:59):

I don’t think he would. Don’t think.

Sevan Matossian (07:01):

I don’t would say something like this flippantly. This isn’t like, Hey, I’m willing to bet. I bet you, what’s your name? Taylor from self-made training program shaves his head once every other day. It’s not just like this is huge. This is a pretty gnarly accusation. He would not say this just if he was 50 50.

Taylor Self (07:20):

Yeah, but it’s also a meaningless accusation because what are the implications of it? None.

Taylor Self (07:25):


Taylor Self (07:26):

Oh my god. She might be on Roys.

Sevan Matossian (07:27):

Okay, so it doesn’t tarnish your reputation. I mean I know none of us give Well I sure as fuck don’t care either way. I just like it for the sake of conversation. You might care though, since you’re a competitor, you two on the right, Taylor and John,

Taylor Self (07:41):


Taylor Self (07:41):


Taylor Self (07:42):

Yeah. If it

Taylor Self (07:43):

Doesn’t was on

Taylor Self (07:44):

Steroids, it it doesn’t affect me either, but it would just be really distasteful. I would be disappointed.

Taylor Self (07:50):

Oh, if it’s legit, she popped. She’s on

Taylor Self (07:53):

Steroids. Yeah, I would be super

Taylor Self (07:55):

Disappointed. I don’t would be like, man, Armstrong, I mean

Sevan Matossian (07:58):

Almost wouldn’t

Taylor Self (07:59):

Legitimate. It’s got seven World championship. Different was this year he got seven Tour de France. It’s pretty Is it different though? Is that different? Everybody was on stuff,

Taylor Self (08:09):

Right? Everyone

Taylor Self (08:11):

Is that as far as the icon of the sport? I’m saying the icon of the sport.

Sevan Matossian (08:15):

Okay, I got a follow up question and then we’ll move on from Tia. What if it was someone outside of the community would we be like, fuck you.

Taylor Self (08:25):

What do you mean What?

Sevan Matossian (08:27):

Oh, if it wasn’t Hiller, like Hiller’s in. He’s invested whether you like him or not, he’s inside the fence. I mean matters.

Taylor Self (08:34):

If it was Zach Calendar came in and made a

Sevan Matossian (08:37):


Taylor Self (08:38):

He’s already saying all that stuff. He says they’re all on stuff.

Taylor Self (08:41):

Well, he’s fucking dumb.

Sevan Matossian (08:43):


Taylor Self (08:44):

Because he was on stuff.

Taylor Self (08:46):

This only matters because Hiller, Carrie, his weight. That’s why we’re talking about it and that’s why they’re going to be talking about it tonight. Probably.

Tyler Watkins (08:55):

That’s the only reason it matters. Who’s they?

Sevan Matossian (08:56):

Who’s they?

Tyler Watkins (08:58):

Tia and Shane.

Sevan Matossian (09:00):


Tyler Watkins (09:01):

Do you think they still have sex?

Sevan Matossian (09:04):

That’s a great question.

Tyler Watkins (09:05):

It just seems like such a business relationship. I mean they have a kid. I don’t know.

Sevan Matossian (09:09):

Yeah, they do

Tyler Watkins (09:10):

All the content

Taylor Self (09:12):

On them though. He’s like, you’ll rowing stinks. More upright

Tyler Watkins (09:15):

Torso. You’ve been hanging out with Michelle too much. That was the South African accent. Accent.

Sevan Matossian (09:21):

Dude, it was good. I don’t care what accent it was. It

Tyler Watkins (09:23):

Was great.

Sevan Matossian (09:24):

Lucky camera straps. Hi guys. When are we going to get young versus the thumb in Fit Wars and who will win? I’d like to see that too.

Taylor Self (09:33):

If it’s not a max out, Taylor’s going to win. I hate to break everybody’s heart. What if it was a muscle

Tyler Watkins (09:40):

Snatch Max out?

Taylor Self (09:41):

I think I could still greet you. I tried to give you your flowers. You really want to do this. I’ll do two 15 tomorrow. No, no, no, no. Stop. That’s what I thought. If it’s not a max out, Taylor’s going to win.

Sevan Matossian (09:52):

John was extra sloppy. John was insinuating that Tia learned to take Roy’s from Matt on other Brian’s show last week. Don’t play coy bro. Damn

Tyler Watkins (10:02):

Sloppy bee. Just taking notes. What the hell?

Taylor Self (10:04):

All right. He’s putting words in my mouth. I don’t even

Tyler Watkins (10:07):

Remember you saying that.

Taylor Self (10:08):

I said Tia went to the next level when she started training with Matt. She barely won 2017 and then she was a different, it wasn’t close after that.

Tyler Watkins (10:16):

He, you know

Taylor Self (10:16):

What I think about about

Tyler Watkins (10:17):


Taylor Self (10:18):


Tyler Watkins (10:18):

Do you know how

Taylor Self (10:18):


Tyler Watkins (10:19):

Squatting volume there was?

Taylor Self (10:20):

And I really think

Tyler Watkins (10:21):

That played a huge role into how well Kara did possibly was all squatting.

Taylor Self (10:27):

It was squatting every

Tyler Watkins (10:28):

Workout. Yeah, she is, but she’s also really good at everything else. Cara is like if it’s a lot of

Taylor Self (10:34):

Squatting. Squatting, I agree, but it doesn’t matter. I get what you’re saying. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (10:40):

Training. Think Tank came out with a video that I had not seen edited in this style. I really enjoyed it. I really appreciated the fact that they put the shit that I cared about first instead of at the end. Like so many Dbags do, it was called Rogues, rucks and Racing. Did either any of you guys get a chance to see it? It’s way artsy. I haven’t really seen anything in the CrossFit space like this

Tyler Watkins (11:01):

30 minute. It harkens back to barbell shrug type stuff way back in the day, the long form stuff they used to do

Sevan Matossian (11:08):

And they would do editing like that and graphics like that.

Tyler Watkins (11:10):


Sevan Matossian (11:10):

Cool shit. You

Tyler Watkins (11:12):

Taylor, have you ever seen the one where they go to Switzerland, they go to Aeco? No, they chronicle the whole event. It’s really neat. And this is in that style?

Sevan Matossian (11:22):

Yeah, it’s a trip. Like shots like this? Yeah, shots like this where he’s talking in front of Max Elhaj is talking in front of some scene that’s like, yeah, it’s a trip.

Taylor Self (11:33):

Who’s that? Who’s that guy? Stop his forearms.

Sevan Matossian (11:35):

I can’t tell if this feels like it’s 1970s or if it’s 2024. It’s like weird. It’s a trip. A great video. Absolutely loved it. The music trippy. It gave me kind that drive, that movie Drive with Ryan Dawon gave that drive effect movie. Yeah, it was trippy. I just watched that. There’s a girl in, there’s a girl in there that they introduced that I, Ashley. Ashley? Yeah. Yeah. Who the fuck is that? Yeah. What a trip.

Taylor Self (12:08):


Taylor Self (12:09):

I’m trying to get her involved with Heat one

Taylor Self (12:11):

Because of her personality.

Taylor Self (12:13):

I love how magnetic she is

Sevan Matossian (12:17):

In the video. They’re

Taylor Self (12:18):

Like, is she liberal?

Taylor Self (12:20):

Huh? Is she,

Sevan Matossian (12:21):

I don’t know. I don’t think so. This chick looks like she got No, I don’t think this chick’s woke.

Taylor Self (12:26):

Ask me

Sevan Matossian (12:28):

This chick.

Taylor Self (12:28):

Right? I That’s a better question.

Sevan Matossian (12:29):

Yeah, this chick chick right here.

Taylor Self (12:30):

I asked if she was liberal and you said she’s not woke.

Sevan Matossian (12:33):

I don’t think she’s woke. Dude, this chick’s hard. She’s hard. She’s gangster and she’s free and it’s crazy because she called, at first I was kind of like, what the fuck? She called Travis? Big bird. Big bird. Just ripping on my boy Travis Mayer. And then so they chose her to go against him in a workout, I guess to prepare him for whatever he is doing. He’s going to Rogue I guess. And she smoked him in the workout.

Taylor Self (12:59):

Ashley Wni.

Sevan Matossian (13:00):


Taylor Self (13:01):

He’s not going to do well at Rogue

Taylor Self (13:04):

It. She’s very good at snatch and handstand

Taylor Self (13:07):

Pushups. I’m kidding. Travis is a beast.

Sevan Matossian (13:10):

Hey. And she was on the demo team too, which I had forgotten, but God, I hope she makes it to the games. She’s a beast.

Taylor Self (13:18):

Have you heard Tyler’s prediction with Travis?

Taylor Self (13:22):

What’s your prediction?

Taylor Self (13:24):

He thinks Travis Mayer is going to be top five

Taylor Self (13:27):

At the CrossFit games this year. Oh, that’s a wrong, I don’t know, dude, that’s addiction. That’s a tough take. Just say it. What? It’s That’s a hot take’s. It’s not a hot take. It’s

Taylor Self (13:39):

Freaking on. It’s a mentally disabled take.

Taylor Self (13:43):

That’s like putting Colorado. That’s like, that’s putting Colorado in the top five of the college football playoff

Sevan Matossian (13:50):

Rankings. Hey, there is this hype around Travis right now. There’s this hype that he’s rested, that he’s the best he’s ever been, that he’s in a great mindset that he wasn’t there.

Taylor Self (13:59):

That hype around him in 2018 missed

Sevan Matossian (14:01):


Taylor Self (14:02):

Games in 2018. He missed the games comes back in 2019 with all the hype and thank you. This isn’t the first time he’s missed the games. So why? And the hype was the same then.

Sevan Matossian (14:14):

He didn’t really miss the games this year.

Taylor Self (14:16):

I don’t think Travis would fucking win. Crucible.

Taylor Self (14:20):

Wow, you’re so wrong. You’re so wrong.

Taylor Self (14:22):

It’s ridiculous. Wow. I don’t think he would beat Colton in those workouts and I don’t think he would.

Taylor Self (14:25):

I agree. You’re crazy. You’re out of your mind. All

Taylor Self (14:29):

Of the Chris are good. You got to look at the workouts,

Taylor Self (14:32):


Taylor Self (14:34):

No way. Do

Sevan Matossian (14:35):

What? Hey. Hey, I’m speaking of which before you get in a fight with Tyler here, were you on suicide watch last week? Because Helpin made it two shows in a row.

Taylor Self (14:41):

Yeah, dude, I was asking

Sevan Matossian (14:43):

The boys, I was like, is Taylor being serious or not? What the fuck’s going on? I can’t tell if he’s joking or not.

Taylor Self (14:49):

I was half joking, half pissed.

Sevan Matossian (14:51):

There were a lot of

Taylor Self (14:52):

Things I was doing because I thought they were funny, but I was also being an asshole. I was butt hurt dude.

Sevan Matossian (14:58):

Yeah, so it was like you broke up with your girlfriend. Two weeks later she hooks up with your friend and you’re pissed even though you dumped her.

Taylor Self (15:04):


Sevan Matossian (15:05):

Okay, I feel I understand. I understand. I’ve been there. I’ve in there. I

Taylor Self (15:12):

Was being a bitch. He

Taylor Self (15:12):

Was two techs from getting kicked out of the thread. Shit. He kicked, kicked

Taylor Self (15:16):

Himself out from going to, that was the funniest part. No, the funniest part was me leaving the text and then saying what? I just thought I would get some attention. I’m trying to get some attention.

Sevan Matossian (15:27):

Hike Malvin and they were both a great episodes. Oh, throwing salt in the wound

Taylor Self (15:35):

Fucker, whatever it was. Mike looks that actor.

Taylor Self (15:40):

Mic Levin.

Sevan Matossian (15:41):

Oh, I thought that actually was a picture of Mike from when he was young. No, shit, that’s not him. I thought that was someone who dug that off the internet.

Taylor Self (15:50):

Lov. Holy shit.

Sevan Matossian (15:52):

For those of you who don’t know, I don’t want to tell you too much because it’s a private thread, but we’re on this private dead and there’s 15 of us and I hold the thread in such high esteem and there’s been some squabbles on there. Fucking sophomore girls and shit.

Taylor Self (16:07):

Middle school drama.

Sevan Matossian (16:08):

Yeah, yeah, exactly. Just fighting, just bickering like hey, a food fight broke out and someone threw an orange when everyone else was just throwing something like green beans and someone got hit in the head with an orange and pissed. So Halpin was gone and then we tried to bring Halpin back and Halpin is basically like, fuck you, I ain’t coming back. And so we kept trying to have him back and then he won’t come back. There he is in the chat. There he is off by a letter. Mike Halpin. So that’s where we’re at in our high school. In our high school drama. I think there’s only, there’s 14 of us left, right. Hey, Mike, if it makes you feel any better, Taylor tried to leave. We had to bring Taylor back forced.

Taylor Self (16:52):

Dude, I was taking a page out of his playbook, bro. It was great. Even though you bite me back on the show.

Sevan Matossian (16:57):

Okay, John Young, I’m going to ask you this first. Don’t let it change your answer, boys, before I get up to you guys. Travis Mayer, when they released the rogue workouts, he hands all the paperwork to Max Elhaj and the team training think Tank team and he says you’re responsible for it. Make sure that the measurements are right, the clocks in the right place, cameras are set up. My job is just to do the fucking workout. Thoughts on that?

Taylor Self (17:27):

If that’s how that conversation went, then I’m cool with it. It lies with them.

Sevan Matossian (17:33):

Yeah. It seems like both parties are cool with it.

Taylor Self (17:36):

Yeah, so if it’s off, he could be mad, but he put his trust in them. Everybody’s at fault. If he gets a penalty,

Sevan Matossian (17:47):

Could you do that? Could you go, could you belong to a group and just be like, okay, you’re in charge of that and delegate that because if something’s fucked up, it doesn’t matter who you delegate it to or what the trust is, you’ll be the victim.

Taylor Self (17:59):

It would be

Taylor Self (18:00):

Hard for me to delegate anything.

Taylor Self (18:04):

I’m sure Travis

Taylor Self (18:05):

Did his own work too. Anything, anything Completely. I would double check what they did or I would watch the measurements. It’s not hard to watch the measurements. You have to have it in the video anyway.

Sevan Matossian (18:16):

You know what

Taylor Self (18:16):

I mean?

Sevan Matossian (18:17):

Right. But you’re not seeing the small print where it says there must be a banana in the shot.

Taylor Self (18:22):

How do you mean?

Sevan Matossian (18:23):

Just saying Zach

Taylor Self (18:24):

Gray in his chin hair.

Sevan Matossian (18:26):

Of course. Dude, that dude’s old as Dirt. Taylor, are you cool with That would be cool. Are you cool with Michelle saying, Hey, you’re set that up. I’ll be over there in 20 minutes, be ready. No,

Taylor Self (18:37):

I don’t Fuck. Fuck no, I don’t set other. No, definitely not cool with that. Could you imagine? Could you imagine what Andy would say to me if I was like, you set all this up, I’ll see you in 20.

Taylor Self (18:52):

You’re fucking tired like that. So say you’re at

Taylor Self (18:54):

Crash, feel like you’re fucking,

Taylor Self (18:55):

Say you’re at crash and you and Hopper are talking about the workouts, and then you’re like, Jr, can you rig it up? And then we’ll he would

Taylor Self (19:02):

Say, fuck no

Taylor Self (19:04):

And no, but he’s like, yeah, I got you.

Taylor Self (19:07):

No he wouldn’t though. JR would never say

Sevan Matossian (19:10):

Saying, okay, let’s say you’re training Tank and Al Hajj in the gang. Yeah.

Taylor Self (19:15):

Would I trust them? Is that what you’re asking? Would

Taylor Self (19:17):

You trust Jr to set it up, right?

Sevan Matossian (19:19):

Even if you trust them, would you be able to do it? Would you be able to just go over there and start working out?

Taylor Self (19:23):

I would prefer to set everything up on my own so that I know everything is accounted for.

Sevan Matossian (19:28):

Well, let’s not forget how complicated the rogue instructions were and he probably just didn’t want to worry about that. It’s like, God,

Taylor Self (19:35):

Will you guys just read through this so I don’t screw it up? I didn’t think he got penalty.

Taylor Self (19:39):

He didn’t, but I worry

Sevan Matossian (19:40):

He had a team working

Tyler Watkins (19:41):


Taylor Self (19:42):

Vic Don’s. Why

Taylor Self (19:42):

Working, working for them and they get penalized every single freaking qualifier. So

Taylor Self (19:48):

I’ve had two penalties in a qualifier and one was in one quarterfinals year where I didn’t deadlift the dumbbells up into a full Hank position before initiating Hank cleans. That’s the extent of my penalty because I don’t know, I like attention to detail. I like doing it myself. I feel better that way. And then if somebody else fucked it up and I got a penalty, could you imagine how I would act, dude?

Sevan Matossian (20:16):

Hey, well, did you see what JR Howell wrote? Mr. Howell wrote? You wouldn’t have to tell me because I’d already have that shit taped off.

Taylor Self (20:25):

Well, look, he would have it set up, but he’s not setting our workout area up. He’s not like, okay. And that’s kind of also not true because one time when me and Jason did one of the quarterfinals workouts, we put a whole bunch of other stuff out that he didn’t have out for other people because that’s how he wanted it. There was a lunge workout and we rolled out the 30 foot doer mat because it’s like doing lunges on a trampoline and they didn’t say you couldn’t do that.

Sevan Matossian (20:53):

So you handled your business.

Taylor Self (20:54):


Sevan Matossian (20:55):

They did say, I couldn’t tell. I thought it was a joke, but they did say something like they showed a screenshot of a max looking at a pile of papers and they said the rules for Rogue were 15 pages long.

Taylor Self (21:05):

That’s crazy. It was insane.

Taylor Self (21:09):

15 pages for a very, very simple, what was the workout that we looked over, Tyler? It was the simplest one. That was

Taylor Self (21:15):

The handstand. It was handstand snatch workout. Oh wow.

Taylor Self (21:19):

Just snatching and handstand pushups. That was it. And

Taylor Self (21:21):

It was that was it

Taylor Self (21:22):

15 pages?

Sevan Matossian (21:23):


Taylor Self (21:24):

That’s pretty low.

Sevan Matossian (21:25):

Here’s a report, Audrey. I’m here to tell you I’m buying gasoline for 3 0 9 a gallon right now. Gas down the street from my house. Six 40.

Taylor Self (21:31):


Sevan Matossian (21:32):


Taylor Self (21:33):

It’s like 3 29 where I am.

Taylor Self (21:35):

It’s 2 99 some places for me. Whoa. Texas baby. Wow.

Taylor Self (21:40):

Yeah. You guys got all those oil fields? Yeah,

Sevan Matossian (21:43):

We have shit loads of oil fields around here

Taylor Self (21:45):

In California.

Sevan Matossian (21:46):

Fuck yeah, we have fucking, that’s

Taylor Self (21:48):

Baby oil. Dude. You guys have a baby oil coming

Sevan Matossian (21:54):

Out of ground? Okay. Su is bringing it up. Look at it’s four, five. Oh my god. Six. How many workouts is it? Seven.

Taylor Self (22:01):

It’s one workout. One

Sevan Matossian (22:03):


Taylor Self (22:03):

Yeah, this is one.

Sevan Matossian (22:04):

Oh, oh my God. Are you kidding me? That’s for real. Susa 10 pages.

Taylor Self (22:10):

Wow, that’s

Sevan Matossian (22:11):

Workout one.

Speaker 5 (22:13):

Geez Lord.

Taylor Self (22:14):

So yeah, I would want to hand it off to a team. I would read through it myself to a certain degree, but I would expect them to not let anything pass. You know what I mean? So

Sevan Matossian (22:24):

If you’re illiterate, you’re

Taylor Self (22:25):

Fucked. I would read the basic layout and then probably set that up myself. And then if there was any weird, this is

Taylor Self (22:32):

Trying to get your voter registration in the fricking early 19th century, bro.

Taylor Self (22:40):

That’s what he’s saying. Would you give this? That’s ridiculous. If you had a team at your disposal that would say, Hey, we’ll do everything for you. Don’t worry about it. Just focus on the workout. Would you be okay with it?

Taylor Self (22:50):

No, because I’m literate, so I would be fine reading all that and I would still take it up by myself to do it.

Sevan Matossian (22:57):

Buttery bros went to go visit Alex Gaza and Will Morad at something called the Hawaii Trail Run, which I had no idea was still a thing. I had no idea. It’s

Taylor Self (23:06):

A big thing

Sevan Matossian (23:07):

Is it? Is it still big?

Taylor Self (23:09):

Yeah. Well all the big names go. It’s big on Instagram.

Sevan Matossian (23:13):

That’s crazy. I didn’t

Taylor Self (23:14):

Hear about it.

Sevan Matossian (23:16):

Oh, that’s good. I don’t hear shit about it. I didn’t even know it was still a thing. I had no idea.

Taylor Self (23:21):

Yeah, you have to follow the athletes, but that’s how you would know. You wouldn’t know any other way.

Sevan Matossian (23:26):

I guess I do follow all these people I guess, but I just don’t scroll. I’m a DMM guy.

Taylor Self (23:32):

Have the buttery Bross Donna Ariel Lowen video.

Sevan Matossian (23:37):

No, I heard she took a shot at him. Well yeah, I heard she took a shot. I heard she did in the interview that she did with Coffee Pods and Wads. She implicitly, I haven’t seen it yet, said it was great to work with Rogue. I guess Rogue sent out a team torn Emmy Award-winning filmmaker sent Torn Simpson and another guy out there to do a highlight piece on her because she’s going to be competing at Rogue. And I guess in that piece, or when she was telling Pedro from Coffee Pods and Wads in the interview, they were really professionals and they didn’t do anything silly and I think Pedro and others thought that that was a shot at the buttery Bross like, hey Dipshit. But maybe it was just for saying, Hey Dipshits, come visit me and do your silly thing.

Tyler Watkins (24:24):

Do you think you

Taylor Self (24:25):

Know her pretty well? They’re silly people. Their videos are like that.

Sevan Matossian (24:30):

They’re not silly people. Well, Martian’s a little silly, but they’re not silly people, but they’re videos are just got little Peewee Playhouse to ’em. Yeah.

Taylor Self (24:36):

Yes, yes.

Sevan Matossian (24:37):


Taylor Self (24:38):

I can’t watch ’em. I feel like they’re going to give an epileptic stroke or something like weird.

Sevan Matossian (24:41):

They’ve chilled out. They’ve chilled out quite a bit.

Taylor Self (24:44):

I haven’t watched

Sevan Matossian (24:47):


Taylor Self (24:47):

Long time.

Sevan Matossian (24:49):

I’m never watching their content and being like, I wish this was over. Never

Tyler Watkins (24:53):


Sevan Matossian (24:54):

Yeah, me personally, early

Taylor Self (24:55):

On I did. You would come on and be like, and I’m like, ah. After about three of them, I just got to be honest.

Sevan Matossian (25:04):

You thought you were, I

Taylor Self (25:05):

Watched some recently. You

Sevan Matossian (25:06):

Thought you were doing Breakfast club?

Taylor Self (25:08):

Yeah, or I can only watch the Meat Pancake so much.

Tyler Watkins (25:12):

The last thing I watched of theirs was the game stuff and I thought it was so interesting and I think you can tell when he took over versus the other guys, like the w blah blah stuff went away and it was just him with athletes.

Sevan Matossian (25:27):

Oh, when you mean when they got a different editor? They got that girl?

Tyler Watkins (25:30):

I think so. Did you see there was a very distinct difference?

Taylor Self (25:35):

Did you see Alex Gaza get drug tested after she posted a video of her bench press in nineties, 90 pound dumbbells?

Sevan Matossian (25:43):

I heard her say that. And then I went over to Adler’s station and the first thing he said in his station was, Hey, I got drug tested. So I think that there was a round of drug testing that just occurred, by the way, two things. Oh, before we go there, let finish up with the buttery bross. And then I, we got to go watch Adler’s video. His accent’s gone. He’s not French anymore.

Taylor Self (26:02):

He’s Russian. Does he still

Tyler Watkins (26:03):

Look like a serial killer with his eyes?

Taylor Self (26:07):

Developed a Russian accent.

Sevan Matossian (26:10):

The biggest thing I noticed in the video with the buttery bros is Mars chest was shaved. I texted him last night, I’m like, dude, you shaved. Shaved your chest. He responded with, thanks for watching our content. Wilmore has done rogue twice before. This’ll be Gaza’s inaugural run at it. I think she could be top three.

Tyler Watkins (26:32):

Who? Gaza?

Sevan Matossian (26:33):

Yeah. I think she can be. I think she can be. There’s

Tyler Watkins (26:36):

An outside possibility. She was

Taylor Self (26:38):

Top five

Tyler Watkins (26:38):

At James t is there now,

Taylor Self (26:43):

But Tia wasn’t there. I think if there’s a bench press workout and a legless rope climb workout, then she can be top three. If those are two different workouts and those two movements are the crux of the workout, then she could be top three. If not, I don’t think she can.

Sevan Matossian (27:03):

Alright. I think she’s going to maybe. I’m hoping. I’m hoping she’s going to kill it. Like I said, her and Adler were drug tested. Could we go over and watch a little bit of this Adler video?

Taylor Self (27:16):

Dude, I got to get a camera like yours. You are crystal clear, bro. I can see every fricking strand of beard hair. He’s

Taylor Self (27:23):

Got that circle light that he puts.

Taylor Self (27:26):

No, no, no. It’s not the light dude. It’s like a fucking,

Sevan Matossian (27:29):

I don’t have the circle light anymore. I got rid of it. I got some even better lights.

Taylor Self (27:32):

Let’s hear this non Pedro’s

Tyler Watkins (27:33):


Sevan Matossian (27:34):

And I got expensive ass cameras everywhere. Did you see the new cameras? I got Susa. Now we’re, holy shit. We got so many cameras now. Okay, maybe scroll a little more towards a little more. A little more. Yeah, go ahead and take the risk of playing more than seven seconds. Adler’s cool. He ain’t going to report us. Okay, let’s go watch this.

Taylor Self (27:53):

That sweet transition where the power goes up and up and up, but it has that time to get down a little bit and you’re pushing so hard, but the machine just slows down on you. So that’s where we were going.

Sevan Matossian (28:08):

Okay, pause. You hear it? It’s going away.

Taylor Self (28:10):

No, he still sounds a little French native. He still sounds you see with pushing and pushing and pushing and then he just slow down.

Taylor Self (28:17):

I mean he wasn’t that French fucked. He was still his own way. Yeah.

Taylor Self (28:21):


Sevan Matossian (28:21):

Dude. He used to speak in broken English. This isn’t the same guy that said Jaz.

Taylor Self (28:25):

Ja. No, I think that was a mannerism that he wasn’t like, he didn’t know how to say jacuzzi. I think he was just fucking

Sevan Matossian (28:36):

Okay. Give me a little more. Give me a little more. We might need a poll. This is bullshit. I’m not getting the support I want play a little more. Sus his accent. He didn’t learn

Taylor Self (28:44):

English in four months and now all of a sudden he doesn’t have a French accent. He’s 28. Dude,

Sevan Matossian (28:50):

Come on. Play a little more. Come. I might get the support I want. Play a little more.

Taylor Self (28:54):

He learned Russian in three days. Found it.

Sevan Matossian (28:59):

Look, he takes Wolverine. That’s awesome. Me too.

Taylor Self (29:02):

My favorite. My favorite.

Taylor Self (29:04):

My favorite.

Taylor Self (29:07):

He didn’t learn Russian in three days.

Sevan Matossian (29:08):

God Taylor, you do voice good.

Taylor Self (29:10):

He learned how to say two words. That’s like me saying,

Sevan Matossian (29:13):

Oh, he learned the complete

Taylor Self (29:14):

Language. He learned the whole

Sevan Matossian (29:16):

Thing. Thank you, Susie. Yeah, let’s try a different spot. Here we go

Taylor Self (29:19):

On the ski. Recover on the ski. Push it hard on the bench. Use

Tyler Watkins (29:23):

The weight you can do in broken.

Taylor Self (29:26):

Very nice. No French there. Okay, now it’s time to go home.

Taylor Self (29:28):

Okay. There’s no Shan.

Taylor Self (29:32):

What? You know what? I had a thought. Listen,

Taylor Self (29:34):

This dude is from Canada.

Taylor Self (29:36):

His shit talk reminded me of, he’s so bad at talking shit. And I had an epiphany the other day when I was in middle school and a Hispanic kid taught me how to say pto. I would run around and be like, ha, you’re a pto. That’s what he did to Roman. That’s

Taylor Self (29:54):

What he did.

Taylor Self (29:56):

Come on.

Taylor Self (29:58):

What? Oh my. Yeah.

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