CrossFit Games Semifinals WEST | Finale

Sevan Matossian (00:02):

I am going to give you the cliff notes. Uh, I don’t know how everything started, I guess. Uh, people are born. I guess that’s the only reason why people die. But if I had to start a story, there was a man who didn’t own a car. He owned a bicycle. Um, he trained people. He was frequently kicked outta gyms for telling them to eat low carb diets. Um, and for, uh, he had them do deadlifts and was kicked outta gyms for, uh, letting people drop weights on the floor. And this man, um, uh, started, uh, he had a very wealthy client, and his wealthy client would often ask him to come to his house, uh, to train him. And then his wealthy client would leave him downstairs in the gym. And his personal eight hours would never show up. Instead of complaining and being a bitch or fiddling around on his Instagram, he didn’t have back then. This man began to write articles. And those articles became journal articles.


And from those journal articles became subscriptions, became a gym, became people who saw that the, the, the power of this workout methodology, this lifestyle, this ag, uh, curation and aggregation, aggregation, aggregating of, uh, of all of this information, which brings us to where we’re at today. And we are all, we should all be so fucking thankful we found this, because if we hadn’t found this, what we’d be doing to medicate in, in the best of conditions would be jogging. All of us would be fucking joggers and triathletes, and we’re not. We found CrossFit. We found that methodology. We found out how to do things that are not only better for you, but that we can do by ourselves, or that we can go to a local affiliate and do, or we can do anywhere in the world. And we should be incredibly thankful that we found this, every single one of us.


It’s crazy Sometimes I think, what would I be doing? What kind of dumb shit would I be doing if I never found CrossFit? What a fucking powerful fucking, uh, uh, tool and, and, and, and hobby and mechanism that we’ve all stumbled upon. So, congratulations to all of you, because the vast majority of the world still hasn’t fucking found this thing. They haven’t found this group of people who just wants to go out and play with their bodies and be the best version of themselves and hang out with sim similarly minded people. Go ahead, bill. I know you’re thinking something. Please, <laugh>. I was just gonna say, I wouldn’t be a runner. <laugh> fair enough

John Young (02:33):

Here thinking, um, I would be a weightlifter. John wouldn’t be a runner. <laugh>. <laugh>,

Sevan Matossian (02:41):

Uh, okay. Uh, fantastic. I am so glad. Uh, it, it, it played out perfectly. I’m a little sad that, uh, uh, I will say this, that I was, uh, surprised at how sad I was that Danny didn’t make it. I wish she wouldn’t have made it. Uh, as a community, we’ve invested a lot of, uh, uh, energy into her. It would be cool. It’s always fun, uh, taking the whole party along with us. Um, I, I’m shocked. She, she, she didn’t make it, but, um, she, she was saying some things early on in the year that she wanted to do bigger and better things and, and life’s bigger than CrossFit. And when I hear that, I know a lot of people pat those people on the back. I’m kind of disgusted by that. I don’t believe in balance, and I don’t believe in doing anything half-assed. And I think if you wanna be the tip of the spear in playing the CrossFit games, you should, uh, fucking burn it all down. Like, um, like they said, uh, Arnold Schwarzenegger and, and pumping iron when they said, Hey, are you gonna go to your dad’s funeral? He, they, he said, no, I have a Mr. Olympia to win, and he’s already dead. And, and I’m of that mindset. I am. Uh, I am. I like that. But, uh, any thoughts? Anyone on, uh, um, on Miss Beegle not making it?

Brian Spin (03:48):

I think there’s a lot of go, a lot of, uh, second guessing on our trip to Saudi Arabia one week before. Yeah. That’s just a lot of travel. And I mean, one, one place she goes and, and does Saudi Arabia and all the traveling contribute to one less finish, potentially 10

Sevan Matossian (04:04):

More, 10 more pounds on her snatch. And that that’s Hey, when she’s, Hey,

Brian Spin (04:08):

Five pounds, five

Sevan Matossian (04:09):

Pounds and, and hey, five pounds for those of you, for those of who don’t do international travel, I don’t want to hear you pop off because I’ve done a lot of international travel. And what Mr. Spin, I think is saying, I think is extremely relevant thoughts, uh, helping on Ms. Spiegel not making it. She’s kind of a staple. We expect her her to go. Right.

Mike Halpin (04:25):

She could still, if Olivia turns, turns down her invite, she could still go. She’d be the, uh, wait, yeah. There’s 10 for women. Yeah. Yeah. She would be nice. Yeah. She be the backfill, uh, the nine 10 thing with all the, all this really throwing everybody off myself occluded. Um, but yeah, I think the international travel, I think the other thing she has going on with, with all of that, like it’s, I mean, you hear about, I mean, not everybody’s gonna be Matt Fraser and not touch a steak knife for nine months or whatever he does <laugh>. But like, you just see these athletes that are just going like nonstop towards this goal of making the games. And then you see athletes that are like, yeah, I have quote unquote bigger and better things that I could be doing. Or I’m gonna go and do whatever that happened to be, um, for, for a few days. And right before this, um, I mean, Brian and I have seen it with other athletes. There’s athletes that’ll do a comp like two weeks before, before a semi-final. And you just kind of scratch your head a little bit. Like, how serious are they taking this? It goes, well, for some of ’em it doesn’t go well for others. But yeah.

Brian Spin (05:32):

You guys, you guys remember when, uh, Noah and who, Chandler, Mora, all those guys went to Dubai during the open to do that. Yeah. School course race. Yeah. They all got sick. They all got sick out there. That’s the open. It was fine, but they all got sick, right? I mean, that was a lot of risk to go out there, travel, do all that. I mean, who knows? She could have been sick. I don’t know. Um, there’s just a big risk to take to do that.

Sevan Matossian (06:00):

Grundler, any thoughts? Uh, is, is, and is this a eulogy maybe for Danny? Is that it? She’s, she’s now, she’s now gone.

Bill Grundler (06:07):

Um, it completely gone. I don’t think she is. I mean, she missed going to the games by five pounds on the movement that she’s one of the best in the, out of the entire field at, so I mean,

John Young (06:20):

I think five is a bad snatch for her.

Bill Grundler (06:22):

Right? Right. So I, I think, I think what it comes down to is you are what you put your energies to. You are what you put your intentions to. And if you’re just kind of cruising around, it’s like, oh yeah, I’m good enough that I can kind of be in the mix. And I always getting, cause I’m just kind of good enough. Like we have athletes de depending on the athletes that come up, depending on the program that comes out, if you aren’t, if that’s not the top, if that’s not your top priority, then you’re not gonna be able to perform your top performance. And then you are rolling the dice. And if you, whenever you leave it up to chance like that, um, there’s always a chance that you get a bad role. And, and I think that’s what happened. I mean, the, she said the first day was not what she wanted. The second day is what she needed. And then she just was too far down to, you know, it didn’t, didn’t perform the way she needed to. So bigger and better things. Okay, cool. If that’s, if that’s her, if that’s her number one priority, then cool. Go do your bigger and better things. She got all the,

John Young (07:17):

All the time in the world now. Yeah.

Bill Grundler (07:19):

I mean, yeah, you’re, you’re fine. And you can compete and still be a name and still do stuff and still have Instagram followers. You can do all that. But I mean, I’m, I’m a, I’m a athlete and a sports purist, and if you wanna be the best, then the, the people that deserve to be out there doing the best are the ones that put everything to it. That’s their first priority. Which kind of may be getting back to what you were talking about with Ellen and Justin. I don’t know, <laugh>

Sevan Matossian (07:44):

Relationships, uh, before b b, uh, before you go, uh, uh, cause I’d like to hear from you too, John. Um, and I, I don’t know if I even mentioned his name. The person I was referring to was Greg Glassman. Uh, Anthony Savon. You left some Greg on your lips. <laugh>. Thank you. I appreciate that. Fuck, at least someone’s looking out for me. Okay. And, and I’ll be blowing Colton next. Thank you Anthony. Uh, Jenny, uh, another great weekend of coverage. Thank y’all. Yeah, thank you. I am, uh, acutely, I, I appreciate it a lot. And I’m acutely aware that we fucking absolutely destroyed it and ruled the space. Thank you. Uh, John. Uh, Ms. Uh, Ms. Spiegel, um, uh, thoughts on, uh, I personally think it’s a eulogy. I think she’s gone. I think she’ll try. I think she’s gonna, uh, have a rude awakening that what have you, that this sports world is a what have you done for me late lately? She’s gonna fade into the darkness and then she’ll try to come back and she won’t. But what your thoughts, uh, Mr. Young,

John Young (08:34):

I think, I think she’ll do what she’s been doing for one more year, and then if she doesn’t make it again next year, then then, then that’s probably the beginning of the end as far as her CrossFit career goes. But one year it can be a blip in the system. You know, she missed it by two points. I know you feel bad for her, but I I’m kind of thinking about Kelly Baker. Yeah. If she, if she, so say, say Danny snatched two 10, right? And got, and was, had those points, Kelly Baker fell down on her lane on her sandbag and took like 20 to 30 seconds to pick it up and finish. If she dropped out of the top 10 because of that, that would’ve been just dis destroyed her. I couldn’t imagine. Cause like she made the games, her fitness made it, and then her falling down would be the reason she didn’t make it. I, I mean, this is a great video. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (09:33):

Who grabbed this?

John Young (09:35):

Boom, uh, will, I think will Branstetter.

Sevan Matossian (09:38):

Damn. Hey dude. She’s pretty athletic too. Can we see that again? That that is, uh, somehow, so this is Kelly Baker in the final event. Look at, look at Gza is already partying with Emily Rolfe. Like, yeah. What are you gonna wear? <laugh> Baker’s fighting for her life. Boom. Yeah. Real athlete. She’s a real athlete.

John Young (09:56):

And can you imagine like, uh, you know, trying to make it to the games that all, like for a long time, never, never was good enough. Close a lot, but never good enough to make it. And then this year you were good enough, but that’s why you’re out. That right there, like, I think that would’ve just mentally destroyed anybody. Um, so like, I’m, I’m happier for Kelly than feeling bad for Danny. Danny’s been there.

Sevan Matossian (10:23):

Yeah. Gotcha. And it wa I it was ki it was powerful. When, when Kelly Baker said she’s been trying to get to the, uh, game since 2015 or 16. I just figured she took some time off. But, uh, that

John Young (10:34):

She’d been going team. She

Mike Halpin (10:36):

Was on team last year. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (10:38):

Uh, I don’t even never know how to say this name. Come me, come, come reside, uh, Colton Cole Bailey with incredible comebacks,

Mike Halpin (10:47):

Not <laugh>,

Sevan Matossian (10:49):

Cummins inside Cum inside. Oh,

Mike Halpin (10:51):

You’re getting closer Cum inside.

Sevan Matossian (10:54):

Inside. Uh, yeah. Some great comebacks. I agree. Thank you for the loot. Um, and I hope you’re using contraception, uh, John, uh, or Anthony tpa. John, you make Brian pay you in ones for John. You make, which,

John Young (11:05):

Uh, which Brian are we talking about? I made both bets with both of them.

Sevan Matossian (11:09):

Did Colton win three events? No,

John Young (11:11):

No, no. So, like, I think Colton did, though. I won every single bet of place this weekend except the one with Brian Friend. And he didn’t win that bet either. It’s just a push. I was two places off in a tie break from winning that bet. I said he’d win three events and he, thank God he won, Linda, because then I would’ve had to pay

Mike Halpin (11:32):


John Young (11:34):

Bylaw James Tie Break to Telo. Oh man, that would’ve made me so mad.

Sevan Matossian (11:38):

But, uh, James Towns in facts. Uh, but a lot of these athletes don’t honestly know nor understand what it truly means to be an athlete. The sacrifice to say no. You know, there’s these, as your day rolls upon you, I’ve heard, you know, people say, Hey, every decision you make, decide does that decision get you one step closer to your goal or one step further from your goal? Uh, but you have to be conscious in order to even play that game. And, uh, I think a lot of people maybe aren’t, uh, conscious. Al, although I’m not taking a shot at all the athletes, I’m, I’m truly impressed by everyone who is fucking there. It was amazing. Uh, Luis Lemos. Holy shit. Thank you, brother. You’re always, uh, exceedingly generous. And I, um, I truly appreciate it. Um, who is I gonna ask you? Oh, Colton, uh, let’s go, let’s start here. Uh, we’ll start with John, with you, uh, Colton and Merton’s and Scott Telo. They so Co Col,

John Young (12:29):

Sagers and Scott.

Sevan Matossian (12:31):

Well, I, no, I just mean Colton Mes and Tello, they’re not the same athlete, right? Where did,

John Young (12:35):


Sevan Matossian (12:36):

After we saw Telo compete, the text messages blew up and it was like we were all, I, I swear to God I was fucking about to cry because I, everyone was predicting and what I, what I was also predicting like, oh shit, Merton’s is gonna shit the bed on this because Telo shit the bed on, not shit the bed on it. But j what did he shit the bed on it? What did he take Telo? I’m looking on that workout.

John Young (12:59):

Not good.

Sevan Matossian (13:00):

Uh, let me

John Young (13:01):

See. Did he scroll over? He took 46. 46.

Sevan Matossian (13:04):

Okay. So he did shit the bed on it. Holy shit. Okay. Yeah. So we were terrified because we knew that Colton to be in control of his own destiny had to finish in the top 12 so young. They’re not the same guy.

John Young (13:16):

No. I mean, people just think they’re the same guy. Cause that’s the only other guy that, that, that is the same height. And I, he’s an inch shorter. So like every anatomical deficiency Colton has, Scott has worse and he’s about 10 pounds lighter than Colton. Um, he’s struggled with the bag and he is gonna struggle with the bike way more than Colton’s going to just because Colton’s bigger. He’s a, he’s the smaller version of the smallest thing we’ve ever seen. Like, you know what I mean? Like, it’s not, they’re not the same. Like, like there’s a,

Sevan Matossian (13:48):

So Colton ain’t got shit on Telo. Telo is the record holder

John Young (13:52):

As far as being the shortest person. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (13:55):

Uh, thought Bill, they’re not the same person. Did you, I mean, were you in the same camp that I was like, oh fuck, Colton’s not going. Look what happened to Telo?

Bill Grundler (14:03):

Well, I, I think the, the fact that he, he, we knew where he, we knew where both those guys would struggle. Um, we then we saw, which

Sevan Matossian (14:11):

Was what? The bike The bike. We knew that

Bill Grundler (14:12):

The bike would be tough compared to the field, compared to the field of, of the athletes that, that if he wanted to stay at that line. Um, and then the way that Scott really struggled with that bag, like he wasn’t even, I mean, he was holding on the outside of the bag, <laugh>, he didn’t have his hands around him at all. Oh. Meaning

Sevan Matossian (14:26):

His arms were too short. He couldn’t get around <laugh>. Well,

John Young (14:28):

You, you think Colton’s lifting hay bells every day, right. That bag’s gonna be fine for him. Right? He does it every day. Right.

Bill Grundler (14:34):

So, I mean, so that, so that definitely plays to his favor. So yeah. Were there some similarities, uh, anatomically Sure. But, um, I mean we’ve seen, we’ve seen Colton do some pretty amazing things and you know, that that event six, he did really well in and he needed that, that cushion. And so I, I mean, I was impressed that he did. I I didn’t think he was gonna do terrible. I didn’t think he was gonna do as bad as, as Scott did, but I was impressed that he was right behind. Yeah. Madeiros. I was like, where the fuck did that come from?

John Young (15:09):

And I need to apologize to Kowski because this is obviously a short man’s workout since Merton’s beat him on this <laugh>. It’s not a, a big man’s workout. <laugh>

Bill Grundler (15:21):

Did, did they wanna get a picture of those two guys doing the congratulatory hug at the end?

Sevan Matossian (15:25):

What happened to Kowski? He, I thought he was neck. And what happened? He imploded somewhere. Blew up?

John Young (15:30):

Yeah. Just like event six when Ner was trying to keep up with, uh, Maderas, Vikki was trying to keep up with Vener and he just couldn’t do it round where

Sevan Matossian (15:39):

You blow up on the bike Route two,

Mike Halpin (15:41):

They were close.

John Young (15:43):

Just blew

Mike Halpin (15:43):

Up. Yeah. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (15:45):

Where was Bike

Brian Spin (15:48):

Toast bar? The toaster bar.

Sevan Matossian (15:50):

Okay. He was

Brian Spin (15:51):

Slower on the, on the bike to bar. He was really slow on the toaster bar.

Bill Grundler (15:54):


Mike Halpin (15:55):

You could see it hurting him on the second round too, right towards the end. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (15:59):

Uh, su tell and the CEO shirt, can I get a Fuck ya for Colton? Fuck ya. You totally can. What a what a what a great, uh, uh, character to rally around, uh, Aaron Shabel. Great coverage gentleman. And Sev can’t wait for next week’s coverage already. Oh, you’re scaring me. <laugh>. I gotta get the broken science thing next week. I don’t know if I could do another week of this. Uh, Jeff Giardino. Justin looked like he was up late watching Torian

John Young (16:27):

<laugh> on a mid six <laugh>.

Sevan Matossian (16:29):


John Young (16:29):

Uh, that’s funny.

Sevan Matossian (16:31):

Uh, se uh, aren’t you happy it was a chubby versus crying chubby versus crying chubby. Oh, a boner versus like, I got a boner instead of crying that Colton didn’t make it. Oh my God. I would’ve been truly bummed about covering the games if, uh, Colton didn’t make it. It it’s, uh, this is great. And I guess his, so he’s sick also.

John Young (16:50):

That’s what he said. Uh, he said he wasn’t feeling well on day one.

Sevan Matossian (16:54):

Um, uh, before we switch to the women, uh, I want to, uh, talk about the, what, what’s gonna happen with Pat Vellner now? Uh, are we gonna start, uh, I know we’re gonna hear Brian start talking about how Pat Vener always beats Bikowski and Comp and it’s another win for Pat Vener and Pat Vener. This is gonna affect the worldwide rankings that Brian does and all this stuff. Is the chatter really gonna start up that Pat is a serious threat this year?

John Young (17:19):

Yep. I

Bill Grundler (17:21):

I don’t, I honestly don’t think it’s that much different than any other time. Pat always does. Well at the semi or like the semis and the regionals and the, he always does.

John Young (17:31):

This is the first time he is beat Justin in a competition.

Bill Grundler (17:34):

Well head to head. That’s true. Head to head. If you look at the road,

John Young (17:37):

You look at the, and, and dominated. Dominated,

Bill Grundler (17:39):

Yeah. True. But I’d still, I mean, he

Mike Halpin (17:42):

Almost beat Justin by a hundred points. Yeah. Yeah. You could say that.

Bill Grundler (17:45):

I I he did.

Sevan Matossian (17:47):


Bill Grundler (17:47):

Did. I think it’s competition. I think it’s one competition.

John Young (17:50):

Wow. I agree. Bill, bill 100%. I agree, but I’m just saying, putting them on the same talking point of can you win the games? You see what I’m saying? Okay.

Sevan Matossian (18:00):

Patrick Vener has 612 points. Justin Mades says 519. I’m, yeah, that’s, I don’t think anyone would’ve predicted that.

John Young (18:10):

Predicted what?

Sevan Matossian (18:11):

That that be a hundred pence ahead of Justin at the end of, uh, the semis?

Bill Grundler (18:15):

No, I, I don’t think so.

Mike Halpin (18:18):

And almost 200 points within the cut line.

Sevan Matossian (18:20):

Yeah. Hey dude, look at this. We usu the, the, the word going into the street with Justin Madras. Now granted, there’s 60 people in the field, but we’re going in, uh, the, the, the, the talking point on Maderas was, is that he never falls out of the top 10, right? Well,

John Young (18:34):

This was an uncharacteristic weekend.

Sevan Matossian (18:35):

Sixth, 10th, 12th, 13th, 21st and the fifth.

John Young (18:40):


Mike Halpin (18:40):


John Young (18:42):

Can you go down the, can you, can we see what, how many points, uh, ninth had? So he was closer to missing the cut than Vener.

Sevan Matossian (18:53):

How did, how did Colton beat Nick, Matthew and Falkowski on this workout? What a fucking trip.

Bill Grundler (19:00):


John Young (19:01):

That’s, that’s what I’m saying. Colton does things that I just mind boggling you.

Brian Spin (19:05):

I wish we could have seen his last 20 toes to bar because he was trailing the whole time and he flew through that. They finally showed up carrying the sandbag and you’re like, where did he come from?

Bill Grundler (19:16):

Yeah, there was one wide shot when I think when Justin was, uh, moving the bag. And, uh, or maybe he was, uh, just finishing up his toes to Bar and um, Martin got on there. Martin’s got on there on the bar. That was the only time I saw that last round though. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>,

Sevan Matossian (19:32):

Uh, pat, uh, come, come inside me. Come inside you.

Bill Grundler (19:36):

Obviously it’s worth the money to get you to say it like this every single

Sevan Matossian (19:39):

Time. Come inside me. Thank you. Uh,

John Young (19:42):

There’s not an another m

Sevan Matossian (19:44):

I know. That’s why it’s like, it’s Cummins eye. Cummins. Yeah.

Mike Halpin (19:49):

Yeah. It’s an old English name. Yeah, I’m sure.

Bill Grundler (19:52):


Sevan Matossian (19:54):

Uh, Cummins Eye. Uh, uh, why is he using your picture, John, uh, for his, uh, profile picture? You, what’s going on? Uh, pat bent the champ over this weekend through a seven event in person comp. My goodness. That’s significant. That that’s apostrophe Yes. Significant. That is significant. Uh, uh, uh, Mr. Spin is it, did he, did he bent, bent, bent the champ over?

Brian Spin (20:20):

I mean this, this competition. Yes. Um, again, something changed though between day one and two and then three. Like Justin was a different athlete today than he was watching his

Sevan Matossian (20:32):

Hair looked like he used conditioner last night. His hair was different

John Young (20:35):

Today. The workouts were better for him too.

Brian Spin (20:38):

Yeah, I mean, so I, I’m not that worried about it. 15 events. He’s gonna be consistent throughout. I think. Um, I, I, I think maybe just these workouts just didn’t line up for him. He maybe strategized incorrectly and, uh, burned early.

John Young (20:55):

You know what’s crazy if you go back and watch the snatch event, cuz he missed 2 75 like three times. Yeah. And then he hit it and then he hit 2 85 right after that. Like at the, at the buzzer. That 2 85 snatch was so clutch for him. If he didn’t hit that, he’d be, he’d be right around for Merton’s and Sagar <laugh>, which is it. Which is insane. But if he didn’t hit that, I mean, he’d he’d be ahead I think still, but like, it’d be 10, 15 points.

Sevan Matossian (21:26):

Uh, so I just got this text from, uh, an athlete at six four, uh, saying I was in the bathroom, uh, when Colton Merton walked in <laugh>. And I asked myself, he choose the kid’s urinal, <laugh> <laugh>. Cool.

John Young (21:49):


Sevan Matossian (21:50):

Co did not disappoint and went straight for the Lowrider. Yeah. What the fuck do you expect? I have to use the kids’ urinals in some of ’em too. What do you expect? That’s hilarious. That’s good. Spies everywhere. Colton, you can’t even pee without someone judging you. <laugh> uh, Cole Sager making his, uh, 10th, um, games. Um, I know this isn’t fighting where like, you feel bad when a guy’s gone past his prime, you know, and he is just in there getting his ass beat. But does is any part of you like, okay, like, like you just squeaked it in,

John Young (22:25):

Like you feeling indifferent about it?

Sevan Matossian (22:27):

No. Like, it’s almost like sad, like sad that he made it. Yeah. I don’t know. <laugh>, I just, just like, you know, in sports, like when a guy goes longer than he is supposed to? No. Okay. Alright. No. Was that feeling? No, it’s exciting. It’s happy. It’s like good job. It’s a hard task. You’re still doing it. Yeah. Like, okay. I mean, do you feel

John Young (22:46):

That way about Travis Mayer?

Sevan Matossian (22:49):

Uh, no, but, but I, no. Um, not yet, but that day could come

John Young (22:54):

Or Pkg. I I put them in same category.

Sevan Matossian (22:56):

Yeah. Well it, it depends. It depends. If they just barely make it is Travis just barely making it? I mean, Travis did did some impressive shit at the games last year. I, I Col Cole didn’t do anything impressive. Well, I guess the final event was impressive. Okay. Yeah.

Mike Halpin (23:13):

Last two event.

Sevan Matossian (23:14):

Fair enough. Fair enough. I didn’t know I was col fan club

Mike Halpin (23:19):

Kind, kind of getting where you’re going. Would you like to see him limp into the, to the games and then finish 20 to 30?

Sevan Matossian (23:26):

Is that where it was? I mean, it was, your

John Young (23:28):

Mentality is go to the games and not do anything.

Mike Halpin (23:31):

Yeah. Or I mean, you wanna see, you wanna see people retire on top? Is that what you mean? Saval?

Sevan Matossian (23:36):

No, I don’t know what I’m, I’m just, I’m just proposing it. Uh, did did he though, meaning, uh, did he limp, limp in? Maybe not. You’re right. Maybe he came in with a bang since he won that uh, last event.

Bill Grundler (23:47):

Look how many times he’s done exactly what he just did. Yeah, that’s true. Right? Like, this is not like a, he barely made it. He’s passed his prime. He’s done it like what, three times, four times like that.

Sevan Matossian (23:57):

Right. He did it when he is young. He’s doing it when he is old. This is how he rolls. He’s

Bill Grundler (24:00):

Still making it into the games. Yeah.

John Young (24:02):

I would say he’s in his prime. His, he just didn’t, his prime wasn’t like as high as other people. Like, cuz he’s still getting 10th through 20th in the games. That’s what he is always done. I know he got sixth one year, but you know, 10th through 20th is what he is always done.

Sevan Matossian (24:19):

Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, uh, Nick Matthews the real deal. Now, now, now he’s, he’s bonafide, right? This is what is this? Is this gonna be a second? Games

Bill Grundler (24:26):


John Young (24:26):

Yep. Yeah. Crazy. This is his first one he like made easily too. Like I’m going to the games. It wasn’t like a hard, uh,

Sevan Matossian (24:36):

Last year someone popped and he squeezed in or something. Yeah.

John Young (24:38):

Uhhuh. <affirmative>.

Sevan Matossian (24:39):

Yeah. Good job. Congratulations, Nick. Good job. Uh, Chandler Smith. Uh,

Mike Halpin (24:44):

Good to see you.

Sevan Matossian (24:45):

Kind of unpredictable, right? But there he is. Sixth place. That’s a good finish.

Mike Halpin (24:50):

I don’t know if you say unpredictable. He had a bunch of like issues last year at Granite Games that just sank him. So

Sevan Matossian (24:57):

He lost a finger one year,

Mike Halpin (24:59):

Huh? Oh, tank falls on it or whatever happened to it. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (25:03):

<laugh>. Uh, whens the last time? When’s the last time he went to the games?

John Young (25:07):

Chand? Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (25:08):

Was he there last

Mike Halpin (25:09):

Year? 21, 2 years ago.

John Young (25:10):

2 21?

Mike Halpin (25:11):


Sevan Matossian (25:12):

Okay. Good on him. And that’s proof that you cannot make it. I And and how old is he? Uh, 30. 30. All right. That’s an inspiration for, uh, Danny. Uh, Maderas. We talked about Maderas 24 5 19. We, I’ll ask you this Bill, what’s Maderas? Um, is he, is he gonna have fun tonight or is he, is he beaten up on himself a little bit?

Bill Grundler (25:32):

Uh, yeah, I think he’s pissed. I don’t think he would be happy with that. A a competitor likes to do well, and I mean, he’s, he’s gonna say what he needs to say in front of the camera or whatever, but I, I am, I’m positive that he’s gonna be back, go back and be like, okay. I I did not fucking like that. That is not gonna happen again. Whatever I was weak on, those are not, I’m two months. I’m smashing those things out.

Sevan Matossian (25:58):

And uh, and um, do you think he, do you think he’s gonna be able to pinpoint the reason, like, oh shit, I had the runs last week, or I was doing too much strength training coming up to this? Or do you think he’s gonna be able to pinpoint it and if you as an athlete, would you wanna be able to pinpoint it?

Bill Grundler (26:11):

Fuck yeah.

Sevan Matossian (26:12):

Yeah, I think you would too.

Mike Halpin (26:14):

I don’t know that he was up in the middle of the night, but I would say not having his training partner and having his coach in a pulled in a few different directions has to play a role.

Sevan Matossian (26:24):

All right. Yeah.

Bill Grundler (26:25):

Yeah, totally.

Mike Halpin (26:27):

His training partner also being his girlfriend. So emotional support, right? Anything like that. What

John Young (26:31):

Would he even improve on though? Like if you look at his rankings, um, like Linda, you’re kind of gonna be whatever your bench press is gonna be, right? I mean, what you gonna bench more? He’s been doing that already. Snatch 2 85. That’s his, that’s his max. Um, I’m not like, he can get a little stronger, but that’s not gonna randomly go to 300 and then the 800 meter run, you’re just gonna sprint eight hundreds. Like the stuff that he did bad in. It’s not like fitness,

Bill Grundler (26:57):

Fitness, no. You’re, you’re wonder at max is your one red max. Like, I, I mean I, I get that part. I I get that part. I think with Linda, it, it’s not a matter of like, are you gonna work on bench press? I think it’s a matter of, okay, how are you going to pace something like this? It’s high volume, high rep in a, in a, in a position that you aren’t very good in. If pressing is your weakness.

John Young (27:16):

He’s gonna work on pacing though, because I think that’s the one thing he doesn’t need to work on.

Sevan Matossian (27:20):


Bill Grundler (27:20):

Why did he blow up on that? You the one that was like, he blew up on it. He blew up on it. Well, how do you stop from blowing up on it though? The only way you stop from blowing up is you have to pace earlier, more correctly, or understand it, or get more, a slight bit more Brent Vikki like, or to try that again and be like, all right, well how do I fix that? How do I fix that thing that happened? That was a lot of points.

John Young (27:42):

No, you’re absolutely, you’re absolutely right. Do

Sevan Matossian (27:44):

You think he looked heavier? Someone said he looked heavier. I thought he looked leaner. I thought he looked thinner.

John Young (27:49):

I think he looked, I thought he looked the same as he always does.

Sevan Matossian (27:51):

I thought looks the same. Okay. Alright.

John Young (27:52):

But if you’re Adam, if you’re Adam, like what’s the approach other than like, what is the approach other, like, besides what they’ve already been doing?

Brian Spin (28:02):

I think he has attacked things more like he did today. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, I mean, he was conf attack more. Yeah. I, I I think, I think he held be a couple times he was very strong finishing, uh, on Friday. Uh, could have, I think he needs to be a little bit more aggressive at times.

Sevan Matossian (28:21):

Uh, Parker, uh, top two in last year’s games. Do not podium for semi-finals. Who’s he talking about? Roman

Bill Grundler (28:29):

Enrollment. And Justin,

Sevan Matossian (28:31):

Uh, does this say more about the programming or the athletes? Well, great fucking question. I wish I’d asked that. Uh, Mr. Spin.

Bill Grundler (28:39):


Sevan Matossian (28:39):

Could be ahead.

Bill Grundler (28:40):

Go ahead. I was gonna say, don’t, that could be indicative of the programming too. I mean, if you look across, if you look across the board, and I, I think like what Adam would do, like what I would do if I was the coach is I, I would look at all of the events that we’ve seen, open quarters, semis, and then a possibility. What are the things that we’re seeing? Where are you failing in those, not just in the semi, but a across the board on all of those things and be like, okay now. Cause you have to, you have to find the trend. And I like, I, as much as everyone thought that they knew what Dave’s trend was, he’s like, okay, we got the new Aian trend in there. Can you already see a trend? I see a trend

Sevan Matossian (29:19):

In in the work, in the programming, you’re saying?

Bill Grundler (29:21):

Yeah, absolutely.

Sevan Matossian (29:24):

How would you describe that?

Bill Grundler (29:25):

I think that there would be more of a, uh, he’s pushing the gymnastic or the skilled element to it. I mean, there’s, there’ll be the classic, you know, the heavy stuff or whatever. But I think generally speaking, I mean, pirouettes and the, you know, wall handstand pushups and they’re, they’re the, the seated, I mean all of those things were, the things that we’re seeing now are items that we saw versions of at the games, crossovers, whatever. We didn’t see that evolution in. Adrian has said out loud on Chase’s podcast and on another thing we’ve seen where.

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