CF Games Update Show – 2024 New Rule Book

John Young (00:00):

Yes, yes,

Sevan Matossian (00:01):

Yes. Bam. We’re live. Hey, spin. I don’t think your mic’s working, brother. The pro mic. The pro mic.

Taylor Self (00:10):

How about now? There we go.

Sevan Matossian (00:12):

Oh’s the spin. I know

John Young (00:14):

We got to get A-S-U-A-S logo for my mic, dude.

Sevan Matossian (00:18):

BJ y in the house. What’s up John?

John Young (00:22):

BJ y You’re muted, bro. I’m pretty sure. I’m WJY, right?

Sevan Matossian (00:28):

WJY. Sorry. Get my, I

John Young (00:30):

Think you’re MJ y right now. My

Sevan Matossian (00:32):

Letters all confused. Welcome everyone to a bizarre turn of events, which has led to a break in CrossFit games, update shows, and then just all of a sudden a reappearance on this Thursday. I don’t know what the rush is, why this couldn’t wait until tomorrow, but that’s all my fault.

John Young (00:58):

I just drove like 90 miles an hour down the street to get here.

Sevan Matossian (01:02):

Thank God, if

John Young (01:03):

You’re going to say that.

Sevan Matossian (01:04):

Thank God. Well, I watched the Be Friendly podcast while sitting on the assault bike just now to plagiarize their shit and try. Holy shit. I don’t even recognize you right now. Taylor, are you okay? You look at, you have Down Syndrome. Come closer to the camera for a second. What’s your face? Smooshed like this,

John Young (01:19):

Dude. What?

Sevan Matossian (01:21):

Your face is all smooshed like this or something? What

John Young (01:23):

Do you mean? I have a hat

Sevan Matossian (01:24):

On. Your lips are too close to your forehead or something. What’s going on?

John Young (01:29):

I guess I caught it, dude, you got it.

Sevan Matossian (01:35):

Fuck you. Anyways, I watched the show in the rule book and unlike these other two dinging Dongs spin was nice enough to send some notes and do actually a little bit of work. Let me blow this up a little bit more. How’s that? That’s great. This is the 2023 and I’m stealing most of this stuff, like I said, from the B Friendly podcast. They had a Patrick Clark on it. I’m scrolling up to the top and Brent Faki. Actually, it was nice to hear Brent’s interpretation of it. They opened up the floor for Brent a lot and it was cool hearing his little tidbits, but there was nothing in here that was like, holy shit, what are they doing?

Taylor Self (02:24):

No, no. It was some changes, but I don’t think there’s anything that’s groundbreaking or

John Young (02:32):

Is there anything about location, declaring location prior to competing? So are these fuckheads in

Sevan Matossian (02:37):

File? Yes. Yes.

Taylor Self (02:39):

Well, it’s the same as last year.

Sevan Matossian (02:41):

Okay. Let me go through some of this based on what I saw on the Be Friendly podcast, and I’ll go through some of this. Then I’ll go through the notes that Spin sent me and then we’ll see. We’ll see what happens. So I’m just going to pull this down. We don’t even need to see this, but there is a link somewhere. This is the PDFI, but I’ll go over some of the stuff, but there’s nothing crazy. It’s all stuff that we’ve talked about already. I think the biggest thing, and we’ll get to it in a second, is the fact that they are going to have a huge amount of submissions potentially, and how are they going to review those submissions that come from Quarterfinals in order to get the right people in the semifinals? That’s going to be, I think that’s still on the table. Okay. This was first released to the public, I believe today. As they said on the Be Friendly podcast. Most of this is a plagiarized from them. This is version six, so we didn’t see versions one through five. The Fergie Show, dollar 99 towards John.

Taylor Self (03:41):

Thank you.

Sevan Matossian (03:45):

There was a note in a 1.04 where the registration fees may vary depending on where you live, and they’re suggesting that that might be different. Is that because in general it’s always been basically $20 for the open, $50 for quarterfinals, 300 for semis, unless you’re a team at 600, is that what we’re talking

Taylor Self (04:04):

About? I believe Africa was 15 last year. They were slightly lower.

Sevan Matossian (04:12):

Are there any affiliates still in

Taylor Self (04:14):

Africa? No, dude, they’re all gone.

Sevan Matossian (04:15):

No. Okay. Okay, so it doesn’t matter. No affiliates in Africa, duplicate accounts will not be allowed. Andrew Hiller, by the way, let me stop here and say this to you. If you want to see something really well done, a 9.7 out of 10, go over to coffee pods and wads and watch Pedro White’s interview of Don Fall today. Wow. Congratulations Pedro. You fucking killed it. Also, I want to make sure that you guys know that spin. What will you be doing at Waap Palooza this year? What will Barbell Spin be offering? What are the offerings that you’re offering around Waap Palooza?

Taylor Self (04:59):

I have no idea.

Sevan Matossian (05:00):

Idea. Okay, fantastic. I’m glad you

Taylor Self (05:02):

Came prepared. I go there and I wing it and then,

Sevan Matossian (05:05):

Okay, so you are going there.

Taylor Self (05:07):

That’s the plan, dude. You should come on our fuck when, nevermind, I’ll wait. Are you going to ask me that same question,

Sevan Matossian (05:12):

Bro? Yeah, give me a sec. Jesus cry money. DSB down syndrome, boy.

Taylor Self (05:20):

Oh my God.

Sevan Matossian (05:22):

So listen, you want to follow the barbell spin? You want to make sure you follow their Instagram account. All kidding aside, last year it had not only the best content, the fastest content up to date, up to speed, most detail, highest picture. It’s where all of us are going to be going and grabbing shit. Truly Spin is a one man, a wrecking crew helping plan to share,

Taylor Self (05:44):


Sevan Matossian (05:45):

What? I

Taylor Self (05:46):

Feel like I’m a part of the spin team

Sevan Matossian (05:48):

Too. Okay, hold on, hold on, hold on. One man

Taylor Self (05:51):

Wrecking crew.

Sevan Matossian (05:52):

Are you taking John Young with you?

Taylor Self (05:56):

No, but

John Young (05:56):

I’ve been on every spin show for the last six months. Hey, are you going to Waap Palooza?

Sevan Matossian (06:02):

Listen, listen. You are not going to Waap Palooza and Spin goes there and he’s like an octopus. He has one hand on his camera, one hand on his phone, one hand with a pencil and paper. I mean he’s That’s fair. You’ll be probably on my show just jerking off. Just critiquing and judging and badmouthing athletes. Okay? Yeah, you’re right. You’re right. Okay, stand down John Halpin plan to share side by side with all of you soon. That calls out every difference. Thank you. By the way, Halpin was in a tremendous asset and I have him in my notes here. He was a tremendous asset watching the Be Friendly Show today. He made several comments and I grabbed the comments and I’ll be giving him credit where credit is due. Also this year, self-made training program will be there on behalf of, I believe he’ll be doing some work with Coffee Pods and Wads, but more importantly, he gives a fuck about that. Him and JR Howell will be doing a live podcast every day on the Avon podcast station, which I hope to be on also from my little desk here and probably John Young will join them so they will be there with a live studio audience. You guys can fire questions, talk shit, blah, blah, blah, all that. Anything you’d like to add to that? It’s

John Young (07:04):

Going to be like college game day, dude, I’m going to be fucking Kirk Street. Oh, that’s fine. JR is going to be Reese Davis. John Young’s going to be fucking that old stupid fucking idiot who puts the thing on his head. Avon’s going to be like Fucking Stephen A. Smith, dude. It’s going to be a fucking blast. I feel like out of all of us, I look the most like Kirk Kbt Street. No, dude. It’s not about av. It’s about the take dude, and you are the lead Corso hot take guy. Dude, I’m the most accurate guy. Whatcha talking? No, dude. And lastly, you didn’t mention this. Yeah, I’m going to be running classes at an affiliate there in the morning, 7:15 AM at Noah Olson’s dad’s gym. We’re going to be doing an SMTP class hour class. You come, you get a free

Sevan Matossian (07:43):

Month. I don’t think that’s true.

John Young (07:45):

Fuck you. What do you mean?

Sevan Matossian (07:47):

I don’t think you’re running that seven 15 slot. I heard it got taken by someone else, like some DEI stuff.

John Young (07:54):

Yeah, some DEI person booted me on a Saturday, but I still have a Friday and Sunday locked.

Sevan Matossian (08:00):

Okay, Friday and Sunday you want to work out with the best coach trainer programmer in the business, Noah Olson’s dad’s gym

John Young (08:10):

In some form or fashion. We might change location. I don’t know, but we’re going to be training people there. What gym is that? Taylor Wynwood CrossFit. Wynwood. I’m trying to fricking, Hey, we’ll see. Something else might happen.

Sevan Matossian (08:22):

Tyler Watkins correcting Mr. John Young. John, you were part of the spin, not the barbell spin. Dinkle dong. Dinkle dong. That’s the

John Young (08:32):

First time I’ve ever been caught that. That’s when you put a Dingle Perry on a dick.

Sevan Matossian (08:36):

Okay, so back to the rule book. Duplicate accounts not allowed exemptions must be applied for every year, and I think that’s 1.09. I think that should just say tell us your sob story. I don’t think that they should have to go into any detail on what exemptions are and aren’t allowed, but I guess that’s not professional. But let me bring this up to you. I’ll start with you, John. It says in there, you must have a three-year residency, and Brent said, that seems like a long time, and then he let it slide. He didn’t belabor the point, but I think that deserves a little attention. I think three years is too long. I think if wherever you did the games last year, that’s good. Or wherever you lived last year during the games should be good enough. So if you lived in the United States, but you had to compete for Iceland last year, you didn’t live there in time then it’s good enough

John Young (09:25):

One year. Yeah, I think if you have a one year residency, that’s long enough, but I mean I also, I would be fine with it either way. It doesn’t in three years,

Sevan Matossian (09:36):

How long is a career for an athlete

John Young (09:38):

For CrossFit?

Sevan Matossian (09:39):


John Young (09:42):

If you’re young then 10 years. Most people maybe five.

Sevan Matossian (09:46):

So you’re like, Brent, you don’t care. Take it or leave it, whatever.

John Young (09:49):

That’s how I feel about

Sevan Matossian (09:50):

It. Yeah. Okay. Taylor, do you have a problem with three years? I think three years is utterly ridiculous,

John Young (09:54):

But my camera cut out and my mic cut out. Three years for what?

Sevan Matossian (09:57):

Three years residency? I think that one year is more than enough. If you’ve lived somewhere one year, you should be able to compete in those regions. That’s it. One year.

John Young (10:07):

Yeah. I mean that’s typically for getting a license in a state, right? One year or even sooner than that. Or proof of residency for most housing or taxing or something is one year or school, sorry, I

Sevan Matossian (10:22):

Just mean what’s fair to the athletes? You moved somewhere. Okay, so let’s say, let’s say, go ahead, spin.

Taylor Self (10:28):

I’m going to zero years. What? Fuck. Okay. It’s where you live.

Sevan Matossian (10:33):

As of when though, then just set a day arbitrary.

Taylor Self (10:36):

Start the start of the open.

Sevan Matossian (10:37):

But February 29th, wherever you live,

John Young (10:39):

You have to do all the workouts in the open and quarterfinals in that residency too. But

John Young (10:43):

Define live is that you have a house, you have residency,

Taylor Self (10:46):

You have to do the workouts in that location.

John Young (10:49):

Okay, so that’s it. You just have to do the workouts in that location.

Sevan Matossian (10:53):

So let’s say you got a friend who’s a baller who got a jet and they just fly you over to that spot. You’re good with that? Sure. Hey, I’m good with that too.

John Young (11:00):

And honestly I’m fine with that too, but they say the three year residency, I’m like, okay. If they said a one year residency, I would say, okay, if they said there’s

Sevan Matossian (11:11):

Free, free, you don’t think three years is not cool. We’re supposed to be accommodating the athletes. This is the one time where I’m like, yeah, they don’t get paid, Jack. We just accommodate them. Just make, it’s already so hard going to the game. Why not just do what Spin says? Wherever you do the workouts, that’s where you get to compete. You know what they’re afraid of? They’re afraid of people piling into the Africa region, right?

Taylor Self (11:33):

For one spot.

Sevan Matossian (11:34):

For one. Oh,

Taylor Self (11:36):


John Young (11:36):

Fucking think anybody’s moving to Africa for CrossFit.

Sevan Matossian (11:39):


Taylor Self (11:40):

It happened, what was it, 2016? The guy from Invictus went out there to Asia. A couple of guys did and it didn’t pay off. Good luck. Go out there and then see if you can do it. But I don’t think it was broken then. I don’t know why they implemented this residency piece of it. And again, we brought it up last year. It’s different for the United States based on where you live in the United States, but every other region is based off of your residency or your citizenship. So just because I was born in the United States or Canada, it depends on where I live. Not where I was born, but everywhere else. It’s where I was born.

Sevan Matossian (12:25):

Bj y Wayne in, you brought us here. We’re not going back. Fair enough. Alright,

John Young (12:31):

Boy. Jay, baby.

Sevan Matossian (12:33):

We’re walking a tight rope. Financial hardships. Halpin points out on the podcast. Financial hardships have been removed as an excuse. Fucking brilliant, right? Who’s to judge what financial hardships are? That’s some DEI. Shit photos. And then Hopin went on to say something along the lines like photos, video, cell phone, media will not be considered as proof of residency. I didn’t really understand what that meant. We don’t even have to focus on that, but does anyone know what that means? That’s a 1.09.

John Young (13:05):

Probably some dumb fuck athletes. We’re working out at Mayhem one time. We’re like, Hey, send him a video of us fucking training here. Dude, we live here. That’s what that sounds like to me. That’s the kind of stuff these ding-dongs do.

Sevan Matossian (13:17):

Well, why wouldn’t you be able to use where you were working out if it’s timestamped on video

John Young (13:26):

As proof of residency because you’re just working out there proof

Sevan Matossian (13:30):

Of where you live. But if you have content from you working out somewhere every single day, then that’s proof that you’ve been there every single day.

Taylor Self (13:38):

Is that the Bailey Rail rule?

John Young (13:40):

God, dude, it just is. So like find something concrete to use. Show us a fucking lease agreement there.

Sevan Matossian (13:48):

Here it says, proof of sustained residency in a single country outside of the athlete’s country of citizenship begins February 1st. Okay? Proof of residency may include but is not limited to lease agreements, utility bills, government issued identification.

John Young (14:04):

Pool boy thinks wherever you masturbate the most should be considered residency. Is

Sevan Matossian (14:07):

That what he says? Yeah. Alright,

John Young (14:11):

So the school bathroom.

Sevan Matossian (14:14):

Oh my God. Oh my goodness. Oh my goodness. Okay, here we go. 1.30. This was some weird wording. You’re encouraged for the quarterfinals. You’re encouraged to use a registered judge

John Young (14:31):

Encouraged. You’re

Sevan Matossian (14:32):

Encouraged or required. No Encouraged. Yeah.

John Young (14:35):

And that’s because there’s like 5,000 more quarterfinals athletes.

John Young (14:41):

Dude, what are they going to do for that?

Sevan Matossian (14:43):

I just don’t like this wording. Why? This doesn’t seem like rule book wording to me. There’s going to be one other incident where I found something like this. Either any athlete who wishes to qualify for quarterfinals is encouraged to use a registered judge that is a judge who passed the 2024 online judges course. Why not just require that?

John Young (15:02):

Oh, this is to qualify for quarterfinals, not quarterfinals during the open.

Sevan Matossian (15:09):

Oh yeah. And then so why don’t they word it like that anyway? For any athlete wishes, any athlete who does the open, why don’t they just say that?

John Young (15:17):

Because they’re trying to take the top 25%. They don’t give a fuck about the top 10%. Now they’re trying to get your fucking mom into quarterfinal, sev on, and they don’t really give a fuck.

Sevan Matossian (15:27):


John Young (15:28):

Don’t really give a fuck if she has a certified judge.

Sevan Matossian (15:30):

Okay. You get what I’m saying? Yes. JR Howell, Mr. Self. I thought we were going to work on that brain mouth filter thing.

John Young (15:38):

Nah, dude. We’re not working on shit. That all goes out the window when I get on with Stevon. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (15:43):

Yeah. That’s the only one. That’s only when he’s off the air when he’s around his mom that he works on that filter. Okay, that makes a little more sense. I’m glad you explained that to me. Okay, so any athlete who wishes to qualify. So basically, if you don’t think you’re going to qualify for the quarterfinals, use any Tom Dicker Harry as your judge. I’m just going to use myself.

John Young (16:01):


Sevan Matossian (16:02):


John Young (16:03):

Yeah. I mean, I’m probably just going to take a video and not have a judge and then that’s it.

Sevan Matossian (16:08):

I’m entering the open this year. Not only am I entering the open this year, but the affiliates that have the most open entries will get to participate in the Savon podcast.

John Young (16:17):

You think you’ll make the age group quarterfinals?

Sevan Matossian (16:20):

Fuck no. I’ll make, I won’t make anything. I will probably won’t make it to the second workout. I’ll be like, my back hurts my back or my back. I hurt my back. I’m old. I can’t do it. 1.31 prize money for the open. Oh, this is always fun to talk about. Look at this. I like this. Thousand dollars for first place. Is that the most it’s ever been?

John Young (16:47):

Same as last year.

Sevan Matossian (16:48):

Oh, darn it. Darn it. Darn it. Darn it.

John Young (16:52):

Did it go down to fifth place last year though? Yeah, seems Yeah, it did. Okay. Yep.

John Young (16:57):

Have they announced a sponsor for the games yet?

John Young (17:00):


John Young (17:01):


John Young (17:03):

That’s why the rule book took so long to come out.

Sevan Matossian (17:06):

Cost of registration. What do you mean? What’s the connection there?

John Young (17:09):

They’re away to put the, they didn’t have a sponsor yet.

Sevan Matossian (17:12):

Oh. Meaning they weren’t even sure if they were going to do the games

John Young (17:16):


Sevan Matossian (17:19):

Oh my goodness. Hey, Allegra. R Hey. Hey. She her. Listen. Listen. I want to be nice to my preps

John Young (17:27):

Of intensity.

Sevan Matossian (17:28):

I want to be nice to you, but listen, I saw you in the chat during my premier of my workout and you were criticizing my depth on my ring dips. I challenge you with a 200 pound weight tied around your waist. You can’t get my depth.

John Young (17:40):

Stop, dude. He’s on SMTP. He’d fuck you up

Sevan Matossian (17:42):

Allegra R. That’s not a he.

John Young (17:44):

It’s a he dude. It’s a she.

Sevan Matossian (17:46):

It’s a she.

John Young (17:46):

What is it? No, dude. It’s a

Sevan Matossian (17:48):

He. No,

John Young (17:51):

It’s a

Sevan Matossian (17:53):

You would know

John Young (17:54):

They are fluid.

John Young (17:56):

Shut the fuck up, dude. Allegro, whatever they are. Dude,

Sevan Matossian (18:00):

I’m she. That’s what God would say. I am. She.

John Young (18:07):

Dude, I bet she can fucking dumbbell snatch more than you can.

Sevan Matossian (18:09):

I bet she can do. Speaking of which he or she and they tomorrow morning special guest, Garrett Glinton will be on the show. Before

Taylor Self (18:24):

I thought you’re getting to the transgender policy at the end of this time.

John Young (18:27):

Yeah, I thought that’s where you were headed. Dude.

John Young (18:30):

Is it opening the door for me?

Sevan Matossian (18:32):

No, bro. This is my chance,

Taylor Self (18:34):

Dude. Let’s get to

Sevan Matossian (18:35):

It. But I’m pumped because Garrett’s great. Hey,

John Young (18:37):

Taylor can go both ways. You only have to change your name.

Sevan Matossian (18:40):

I’ve been excited to have her back on a second. I and Brandon Waddell will be on, so it’s going to be a fun show tomorrow. Who’s Brandon? Listener? Listener to the show? Come on buddy. Come on. Gap between quarterfinals and semis is smaller than it’s ever been. Is that true? Falkowski was looking at that on the Be Friendly being like, Ooh, that’s going to be really tight. Are we guaranteed to see a bunch of videos from Hiller talking about just the fucking disaster? That is the review process. John Young?

John Young (19:15):


Sevan Matossian (19:16):

If I gave you $50 to bet disaster,

John Young (19:18):

I feel like he’s going to have a good amount of content on it. Yes.

Taylor Self (19:23):

So one thing that there is new is that, but

John Young (19:27):

I don’t know if he ever would’ve, I’m sorry, Brian, go ahead. I don’t know if there’s a way for that not to happen. I feel like there’s always going to be, the review process is always going to be messed up or not go down far enough or they’re not going to check enough videos. They never have. It’s never been like, man, they did a really good job on the video review process. I don’t think there’s ever been a year where there wasn’t people that snuck through

Sevan Matossian (19:51):

By snuck through, you mean down at the bubble? There were some issues not through deceit, but just through the inability to check the amount that need to be checked to get the bubble athletes perfectly correct. Is that what you mean?

John Young (20:04):

So there’s a volume of scores that will have an effect on the bubble athletes that they can’t look at just because there are so many. Right? That might have an effect on their placing.

Taylor Self (20:14):

Go to section 2.08.

Sevan Matossian (20:18):

2.08120 there. It’s real quick before spin goes. The reason why this is all in bold is because it’s all new, correct?

Taylor Self (20:32):

No, they bold certain things. It’s not because it’s new. No. Okay. But this is new. So as you see there, top 60 men and women and 40 teams from each region are required to submit a video of all their workouts. Previously it was that you had to be ready to submit a video for each of the workouts.

Sevan Matossian (20:55):

Yeah. What’s the difference there? Look at the age group. That’s exactly what I was looking at earlier. It says in the age group it says each age division must be prepared. Why not just make everyone upload ’em? It’s free. Just send it to YouTube. Why do they have must be prepared?

Taylor Self (21:11):

Why? That’s what they used last year. I don’t know. It makes zero sense to me and I don’t know how you’re required to submit at the time you, because you don’t know if you’re top 60 when you submit your score. It makes no sense. Just everybody submit it. If you want to qualify, you have to submit your score

Sevan Matossian (21:32):

Video. You mean submit your video with your score?

Taylor Self (21:36):

Yeah. If you want to qualify, that’s what you have to do. And I’d go a step further and say just you have to make it public, but

Sevan Matossian (21:43):

Can you guys think of any reason why someone would make a video and not submit it? You can make it private and just send CrossFit the link so you don’t have to worry about hill or as pounding you. I’m with

John Young (21:53):

Brian. I think you should be required to make it public.

John Young (21:56):


John Young (21:57):

Oh, public. What are you hiding? If you are good enough, if you are going to the semifinals, these are the fittest people in the world. Now, the semifinals, you might not be the games, but you’re the fittest people in the world and you should be up for scrutiny in everything you do because

John Young (22:15):

It should. I think the problem is this. If you’re uploading in a score submission window and everyone’s video is required to be public, then everyone’s waiting for the last possible moment to submit. Right? Everyone submits at the same time. That score window, is that going to have an issue overloading the servers? Are these thousands of people submitting their videos at one time? I don’t know. Fuck all about that.

Sevan Matossian (22:35):

No. No. Because I think they live on YouTube and YouTube can handle whatever they can handle it on.

John Young (22:42):

Would the CrossFit site be able to handle that? Many people trying to submit their scores on the site at one time?

Taylor Self (22:51):

I mean, on quarterfinals.

Sevan Matossian (22:52):

Wait, wait a second. Brian Quarters.

Taylor Self (22:54):

Brian. It’s a hidden leaderboard, right? On the quarterfinals.

John Young (22:57):

It’s a hidden,

Sevan Matossian (22:57):

But Brian, they have that same problem now. What’s Taylor? I don’t understand what Taylor’s saying. What’s the difference whether they submit the score or the video?

John Young (23:03):

He’s saying the CrossFit can’t handle them submitting their YouTube video to the CrossFit site. Like their score?

Sevan Matossian (23:09):

No, it doesn’t matter. But the score is the score. If they’re waiting till the last minute, they’re waiting till the last minute. Regardless, the video’s not going to impact the CrossFit site.

John Young (23:17):

Alright. Okay. So Nick’s that, but they’re still waiting until the last minute to submit their video because as soon as they submit it, it doesn’t matter if the leaderboards blind, their video’s public. It’s on YouTube so anyone can YouTube. That’s

John Young (23:28):


John Young (23:29):

Fucking bill. Fucking Leahy quarterfinal workout for see his score. I have 30 minutes to go. I’m going to beat it now. So I don’t know how

John Young (23:37):

You avoid. I think that’s up for

Sevan Matossian (23:37):

Grabs though, man. They can do that Anyway.

John Young (23:39):

I think you up for grabs. Grabs.

Sevan Matossian (23:40):

Yep. I agree. I agree. I appreciate you bringing it up Taylor as a point. But it’s like then that’s the name of the game. Go

John Young (23:46):

All out on your video. No, you just make it unlisted and you have to submit your video.

Sevan Matossian (23:50):

Why? Listen, Pedro’s asking Don fall all sorts of crazy questions about the fucking state of affairs at hq and he’s transparent about it. Why not fucking make the athletes submit their I mean shit. This is just a game. Submit your fucking video so we can all see it. The

John Young (24:06):

Problem with online competition is these Fuckheads will repeat a workout six times and that’s not how competition should be.

Sevan Matossian (24:14):

But listen, Taylor, they have to submit their score anyway and we can all see their score. Are you saying that none of the scores should go live until the last minute?

John Young (24:21):

I’m saying, Hey dude, I’m saying the blind leader board is great. No, I’m saying the

Sevan Matossian (24:24):

Blind. That’s part of the game. Then part of the game is you better do your best score and you better figure out how to do it. It’s like you just better figure it out.

John Young (24:33):

But this is the thing. If Brent goes and does a workout once, three hours before the submission window or four hours, or maybe it’s the morning of and I have 12 hours, I can beat his score in four fucking attempts.

Sevan Matossian (24:44):


John Young (24:45):

So it just doesn’t

Taylor Self (24:46):

Yeah, but you can make it unlisted, but have the link to it on the website. That’s what I said. Game

John Young (24:51):

Site and John and seven are arguing.

Taylor Self (24:54):

That’s still public though. I mean it’s just not publicly listed. But you see

John Young (24:58):

It can go find my video unless they have the link and only CrossFit would have the link.

Taylor Self (25:01):

No, I’m saying it’s visible. When you look at the games leaderboard, there’s a little link to your video when you submit it

Sevan Matossian (25:10):

Online. People can still steer your score regardless. Let’s say they don’t require any videos, they

John Young (25:14):

Find it, but if you went on the leaderboard, you could click your click it and

Sevan Matossian (25:18):

See. Let’s say it was just the honor system and there were no videos. People can still see your score. I don’t understand why the video plays a role in this at all.

John Young (25:25):

I think the way they have it, the blind leaderboard and the video has to be public is fine. Everyone can submit and then as soon as the submission window closes, the leaderboard becomes public and all the videos are public. And now you can go in and scrutinize. That’s

Taylor Self (25:38):


John Young (25:38):

Right? That’s fine.

Sevan Matossian (25:40):

Okay. Alright, alright, alright. Alright. Meet you halfway. Okay, so you’re saying hide everything until the last minute and then once it goes live and it’s closed, everything opens up, the videos, everything. Yeah. Hey, but how about this? And that’s

John Young (25:54):

Before the scores are adjusted.

Sevan Matossian (25:56):

But how about this? How about let, what if someone puts up, then you are also taking away the opportunity for someone to be scrutinized by Hiller and then redo it.

John Young (26:05):

Not necessarily Hiller’s going to scrutinize it when

John Young (26:07):

Everything’s done. It’s going to scrutinize ’em anyway and I don’t think they should able

Sevan Matossian (26:10):

To redo. I’m saying, but then they can’t redo it. What I’m saying is good.

John Young (26:13):

You have one opportunity to do the right thing and if you fuck it up, you’re getting ass pounded and your season’s over.

Taylor Self (26:18):

Or make it public and send it to ’em.

Sevan Matossian (26:21):

Let me throw this. Taylor who caress, if they beat the score by doing multiple attempts, they’ll be unveiled in the next round. Yeah. Who cares? You’re just talking about for the money.

John Young (26:30):

No, that’s just how you get fucking women at semifinals who can’t do a fucking ring complex. It’s stupid, dude. Get these fucking slap dicks out of here and get the right people to the next stage.

Sevan Matossian (26:41):

Alright, anything else? You’re right.

John Young (26:45):

Can I say one last thing please? He’s right. In relation to finding the fittest on earth, it will sort itself out. We don’t really care about who’s making it to semifinals from 20 to 40 for the most part. But there are special cases, a handful of cases where you could probably take an athlete on the margins. Like a Colton or a Kowski who has troubles in a particular Quarterfinal workout or at semifinals has trouble in a particular semifinal workout. But they get, say they place 38th in quarterfinals in their region and they just barely get into semifinals and they go and win their semifinal because the programming’s different. And we also now have to program for fucking the top 25%. Your grandma, who’s fucking 82 and all the other age group adapt athletes have to do the same fucking workouts. What is

Sevan Matossian (27:27):

It? 54? 54? Basically everyone does the same program between the age of ages of 17 and 54.

John Young (27:33):


Sevan Matossian (27:33):

It’s bad. I can’t wait to see that. Oh, you guys are going to have a field day. Okay. But we do agree on this that everyone should have to put their videos up.

John Young (27:41):


Sevan Matossian (27:42):

Yeah. That’s unanimous old people too. Or there’s something we just don’t understand. Okay. Semi-finals registration is $300. Quarterfinals is $50.

John Young (27:56):

Semi-final registration is a hundred bucks.

Sevan Matossian (27:58):

300. Oh

John Young (27:59):


Sevan Matossian (28:01):

Semifinals. There’ll be seven different semifinals, right? Does that sound right? Seven different regions outside entities will be running those events, but the programming will be done by CrossFit HQ across the board. That’ll all be the same.

John Young (28:20):

How do you feel about that as an event organizer

Sevan Matossian (28:24):

That CrossFit does the programming for

John Young (28:26):

Semifinals is, I like taking somebody else’s dick. You don’t like that

John Young (28:29):

For semi-finals? Yeah. No, that’s how it, I like it like that. I like everybody doing the same

John Young (28:35):

Workout. No, I love that. But I’m saying if you’re an event organizer has to foot your own bill and you don’t get a say in shit, how much do we know how much they’re paying? Renegade Games, for example, in Africa, they don’t pay for their entire

John Young (28:48):

Don’t event organizer. Somebody else will.

Sevan Matossian (28:53):

Dan Guerrero Taylor gets me fired up. It’s free advertising. Taylor’s on a roll, is

John Young (28:58):

It? They don’t fucking advertise shit, John.

John Young (29:00):

No. For your place, for your

John Young (29:03):

Who’s advertising it? CrossFit. Come on bro.

John Young (29:09):

Yeah, I don’t know.

John Young (29:11):

I get what you’re

John Young (29:11):

Saying. You don’t have to be an event organizer because somebody will.

John Young (29:15):

I get it.

Taylor Self (29:16):

I just don’t know how it makes sense financially. Just stepping back and saying if CrossFit can’t make it work financially for semi-finals, how does an outside group come in and make it work?

Sevan Matossian (29:28):

That’s a really good point.

Taylor Self (29:30):

If I’m Wilson or Loud Live Mac or Loud Live, why am I signing up for this

Sevan Matossian (29:39):

Or, well, it’s kind of like the media. We got outside media running the show. We got the Illuminati running the show.

Taylor Self (29:45):

Yeah, but if you told all of us that you’re going to lose money doing this, good luck.

John Young (29:50):

I’m going to take on Sporty Beth Bender, Overin Knee, and Spanker until she fucking cries. Don’t you talk shit about me like that in the comments.

Sevan Matossian (29:57):

Taylor’s getting sued. He doesn’t know shit about fuck.

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