BEHIND THE SCENES Episode 1B | The Post Show w/ Adrian Bozman

Sevan Matossian (00:01):

Damn. We live

Adrian Bozman (00:02):


Sevan Matossian (00:03):


Adrian Bozman (00:05):

I was going to ask you something. I’ve got my dogs in the garage and they’re a little restless, so if I’m seeing

Sevan Matossian (00:11):

A little bit distract, lemme see. Hold on a second.

Adrian Bozman (00:14):

I’m trying to

Sevan Matossian (00:15):

Dog friendly environment. Yes. Or dogs over 30 pounds. How much does your dog weigh?

Adrian Bozman (00:22):

Well, I’ve got three, so I’ve got one who’s

Sevan Matossian (00:24):

35 pounds, one who’s limit two dogs per guest. Sorry. Adrian

Adrian Bozman (00:28):

The big dog, he’s 60 plus. I weighed him last night. He was 62 pounds and he’s six months old, so he’s going to be big.

Sevan Matossian (00:36):

Hey, how’d you end up with three dogs? Last time we were friends You only had one dog?

Adrian Bozman (00:41):

Yeah, no, we had two.

Sevan Matossian (00:42):

Oh, you did?

Adrian Bozman (00:43):

Yeah. So this

Sevan Matossian (00:46):

In O Town, you had two dogs?

Adrian Bozman (00:48):

Yeah, so that’s tuxedo. We got him in 2015 at the regionals. Actually, we got him from the shelter in Encinitas when we were at Delmar.

Sevan Matossian (00:57):

Was that the trade off? The wife’s like, Hey, I’ll go with you, but we have to stop at the shelter and get a dog.

Adrian Bozman (01:01):

No, her godmother lives down there and her godmother was looking for a new dog and Kim went with her and that was the huge mistake because all of a sudden it’s like, okay, we’re both getting dogs.

Sevan Matossian (01:13):

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Adrian Bozman (01:16):

Anyway, hold on one second.

Sevan Matossian (01:23):

I had three great Danes and after my last one died, I started going to the shelter once a week, or maybe it was once a month, I can’t remember, but probably once a month. And I did that for 12 months in a row, and Haley would always wait in the car. She wouldn’t go in. And then finally on the 12th months, she went in the car and guess what? She didn’t wait in the car and we went inside. We got a dog.

Adrian Bozman (01:42):

He died.

Sevan Matossian (01:43):

He died a couple months ago.

Adrian Bozman (01:45):

That’s kind how we got the third one too.

Sevan Matossian (01:48):

You just walked in together and you guys couldn’t leave without getting one?

Adrian Bozman (01:51):

No, it was the other way around. My wife was looking at the Instagram page of a foster place in town.

Sevan Matossian (01:58):


Adrian Bozman (01:59):

Shit. And next thing you know, it’s like, oh, look at this guy, and then hey, you should go look at this guy. And then I guess he’s coming home.

Sevan Matossian (02:07):

Influencer, you were influenced by an influencer, a dog influencer.

Adrian Bozman (02:11):


Sevan Matossian (02:14):

Judy, you’re brave Chevy. I’d end up adopting a dog each trip. The thing is, as much as I claim I wear the pants in the family, I do not think I could bring a dog home without. I don’t think I could weather that storm.

Adrian Bozman (02:28):

Wait, do you guys still have that ble?

Sevan Matossian (02:30):

We do, yeah. Paresh died a couple months ago.

Adrian Bozman (02:34):

Oh, I’m sorry, man, I didn’t know that.

Sevan Matossian (02:36):

And we were driving, we were on a road trip from la Oh, not a taxidermy. Dollar 99. Adrian. I enjoyed your very, enjoyed your very not random show with Pat.

Adrian Bozman (02:47):

Thank you.

Sevan Matossian (02:48):

Back to dying.

Adrian Bozman (02:49):

Hey man, I’m sorry about Meshe, but he had to have been doing something right? That dog. What? He’s like 27.

Sevan Matossian (02:56):

Yeah, it seemed like it. Oh, we were driving up from la. He was in hands. We knew. I can’t believe he lasted as long as he did and 30 minutes into a seven hour drive, he died in her arms.

Adrian Bozman (03:06):

Oh man. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (03:07):

That was a weird seven hour drive. Sorry about that. I wanted toss him off on the side of the road. The kids were having nothing to do. Oh my

Speaker 3 (03:12):


Sevan Matossian (03:13):

Nothing. I’m like, soon as we’re a hundred percent sure he is dead. Four hours into the trip, I’m like, let’s put him outside. They’re like, no,

Adrian Bozman (03:21):

I’m going to pull over and take a pee. We’re going to drop the

Sevan Matossian (03:23):

Dog here. Yeah. You ever buried a dog Adrian?

Adrian Bozman (03:30):

No. We put our other dog down and we did it in home. That was 2021. No, you

Sevan Matossian (03:41):

Get around and hold the dog and cry and someone injects it with poison

Adrian Bozman (03:44):

Kind of. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (03:45):

Yeah. I’ve done that a couple times,

Adrian Bozman (03:47):

But we didn’t bury it. They took it and I think cremated her.

Sevan Matossian (03:53):

Well, this one we got home and we just had a dead, it had gone through all the stages of death. It was in rigor mortis. So I jump out, the last thing I want to do is fucking dig a hole. I’ve been in the car for seven hours. I pretty much didn’t. I barely cried the whole drive. I was mostly laughing and cracking jokes. Then I started digging the hole and I started crying so hard that I was sobbing and I couldn’t snot. I was like, damn, Bailey snot coming out my nose, my eyes swelled shut. I was like, what the fuck is going on here? Kids are screaming, this can’t be real. I’m like, dude, you’re seven. Shut up. You know what I mean? Then I put him in

Adrian Bozman (04:28):

The hole. What exactly is real when you’re seven? Yeah,

Sevan Matossian (04:31):

I dug this deep. He’s a 14 pound dog and I dig this deeps hole, but because he’s in rig of mortis and he has to go in like this, it’s not deep enough, his paws still going to stick out. I’m like, fuck. So I have to fold his rig of mortis shit down and then I filled it in with dirt and I put a stepping stone on ’em on top of the dirt. So one of the other dogs wouldn’t dig ’em out.

Adrian Bozman (04:56):


Sevan Matossian (04:57):

What was that?

Adrian Bozman (04:59):

Well, sorry to hear about that, man. That’s too bad. But like I said, I mean I feel like Paresh was around.

Sevan Matossian (05:07):


Adrian Bozman (05:07):

Was a good life. As long as I’ve known you and I met you in when? 2006, something like that.

Sevan Matossian (05:13):

Yeah, yeah. We’ve always had it. Yep. And that dog slept in the bed every night. So my wife still has phantom dog experiences. You know that. You know what I’m talking? She thinks the dog’s in bed. I’m like, no, he’s dead. I did the behind the scenes for the first time in, I think it’s since 2017. Yeah, so I didn’t do it in 18, 19, 20, 21, 22. So I didn’t do it for five

Adrian Bozman (05:42):

Years, 2020. The whole competition was behind the scenes.

Speaker 3 (05:45):


Sevan Matossian (05:51):

God, someone sent me a clip of what behind the scenes where Matt Chan was there and I asked, and he had just hurt himself and almost died. I think it was after his bike accident. And I asked him, Hey, so are you healthy enough to bone? I’m like, what was I thinking? Asking that question.

Adrian Bozman (06:10):

I’m totally not like you at all. That’s what I was going to say. You wait you’re way past that. See how much he’s grown.

Sevan Matossian (06:18):

I felt so uncomfortable. What was I thinking?

Adrian Bozman (06:20):

A wiser, more mature behind the scenes. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (06:24):

It made me think that what people got this, I didn’t ask anyone if they boned this year, makes me think that maybe people aren’t going to get what they want.

Adrian Bozman (06:32):

You don’t remember episode seven?

Sevan Matossian (06:34):


Adrian Bozman (06:36):

On. Have a little faith in your audience, man. If that’s the only thing bringing ’em in, then

Sevan Matossian (06:44):

There’s a line in there that’s pretty damn funny. And I say to you, how long have you been at the games? Wait.

Adrian Bozman (06:50):

Oh, okay. Yeah, I saw watched. Well, first of all, let me back up a little bit. I watched the two videos that you sent me. They’re great. I got to say, I really appreciate how you got so many people at the outset talking about the level one. I think that’s so cool and really cool of you to do so. That’s great, man. And I also wanted to ask you, is like dude signing up for the open? Does that time

Sevan Matossian (07:21):

I will be doing them illegally.

Adrian Bozman (07:24):

Oh, you’re not going to pay the 20

Sevan Matossian (07:25):

Bucks? No, I’m going to pay the 20 bucks, but I probably would not fit under the drug policy. I will be, I just ordered a year supply of ca peptides.

Adrian Bozman (07:36):

Got it. I

Sevan Matossian (07:37):

Will be on peptides. And as of 2022, you saw that. So no one should fucking think about comparing their numbers to me.

Adrian Bozman (07:44):

We’re going to be on be like a hawk dude.

Sevan Matossian (07:46):

Totally unfair to

Adrian Bozman (07:48):

You. I’m going to get Curtis to send a drug testing squad to your house right now.

Sevan Matossian (07:53):

Oh my God. I would be so fucking flattered if that happened. I would pay for that. Could I pay for that? They should be like, if you want be drug tested.

Adrian Bozman (08:05):

No, but for real, don’t duck the question. Is it

Sevan Matossian (08:07):

How many I’m doing?

Adrian Bozman (08:09):

I know you’re doing it. How many times have you signed up? And I guess I could look it up, but how many times have you been on the leaderboard?

Sevan Matossian (08:16):

I can’t ever once, twice. I don’t even know. I don’t even know. I don’t even know.

Adrian Bozman (08:24):

I got a fricking dog fight happening right behind me.

Sevan Matossian (08:27):

I like it. I

Adrian Bozman (08:28):

Like it. Okay, well that’s cool.

Sevan Matossian (08:32):

I think I probably sent out a hundred by the way. Text messages to people said, Hey, will you tell me about the level one? Tell me if you think it’s good or not. Tell me if people should take it or not. And I’d say 80 people responded,

Adrian Bozman (08:44):

Man, that’s awesome.

Sevan Matossian (08:45):

And every show will be a little bit different. And the reason why I did that, it’s okay. You can’t test for peptides. Oh shit. Alright, there you go.

Adrian Bozman (08:54):

I think the road cast is making a weird noise too.

Sevan Matossian (08:56):

Oh, mine. Okay, here. Yeah.

Adrian Bozman (09:00):

Sorry. I’m almost certain my, no, no, I thought it was, but you muted yourself and I still heard it and I

Sevan Matossian (09:04):

Was like, okay. Hey, the dogs don’t even matter at all. Adrian, this is such an, oh, I like it Even it could even be I saw some teeth. Nice. We’re going to get, yeah, they’re

Adrian Bozman (09:14):

Savages. They’re just death match right now.

Sevan Matossian (09:17):

SPCA is going to come to Adrian’s house. He lives in Tennessee. Dog fighting is okay. People

Adrian Bozman (09:24):

Bring back Mike Dick.

Sevan Matossian (09:25):

Yeah. Cock fighting and dog fighting are still legal.

Adrian Bozman (09:29):

We’re in one of them free states. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (09:31):

No, I don’t know.

Adrian Bozman (09:35):

Oh boy.

Sevan Matossian (09:37):

So many people have responded that every single one of those is going to be different. And the reason why I did that one, I’ve always believed in that and that’s been my big push. But also I want to provide, I wanted to do something that was true to what I believed in, but I wanted to provide more than what I said I was going to provide. And I said I was going to provide the content that’s going to be the most viewed best content of 2023 anywhere in the CrossFit space. I really do believe that. But then on top of that, I’m like, okay, I’m not only that, I’m going to fucking use that to promote the open in the level one so that people at HQ will be like, oh, we made a good decision. I always want people to think, oh, we got more from him than he got from us. And I get in a fucking, I’m telling you, this thing is murdering dude right now. That’s

Adrian Bozman (10:19):


Sevan Matossian (10:20):

And so I want to make sure that CrossFit feels like, oh shit, this is so I wanted to put on a little bit of a media clinic and I feel like I’m doing it. I’m high as a kite.

Adrian Bozman (10:30):

Yeah. Very cool, man. Well, I think both those things are awesome. So Hey man, props. If people still say that. Yeah, they

Sevan Matossian (10:37):


Adrian Bozman (10:37):

Do. Getting back to your question or a comment about the line in there about me giving Dave just a little dig. Yeah, that’s a real fun. It’s a real fun thing to point out to Dave. He loves it every time I bring it up that we are now tied as far as how many games we’ve worked. And what’s even more fun to bring up with him is that I’ve got the streak. He’s got a bit of a gap now. Yeah,

Sevan Matossian (11:01):

Yeah. Hey, it would’ve been,

Adrian Bozman (11:04):

I got a streak. He’s starting over. He’s on year one. If you start to count over again,

Sevan Matossian (11:10):

What’s the guy’s name? I think CJ has a 17, and I don’t know if Nicole Carroll has 17.

Adrian Bozman (11:17):

CJ Martin. Yeah. Yeah, I believe that for sure.

Sevan Matossian (11:20):

And I don’t know if Nicole Carroll has 17, but then for sure you would be a 16 consecutive, it would be you and just a handful of people like you were saying maybe. Who’d you say in there, Jenny or

Adrian Bozman (11:30):

Yeah, Johnny Mack for sure. Jenny or for sure there’s a group of us. We took a picture at the end. I can go back and look, but yeah, it’s a small number at this point.

Sevan Matossian (11:41):

Yeah, that’s crazy. What was that like for you? It’s kind of cool historically, and I think because now I’m going back looking at some old behind the scenes footage that I keep seeing pop up on Instagram or little clips on YouTube and I’m like, wow, I’m even more happy than I’ve ever been that I made these behind the scenes. Such a cool historical kind of yearbook record. But what was it like for you to Huge, huge heyday with Dave 2018. Then every year then there was some difference. I don’t want to say it’s bad, but 19 was different, 20 was different, 21 was different, 22 was different. And now back to 23 is kind of dipping back to 2018. Tell me why you are enjoying, put a good spin on it for me, even if you have to lie to like, wow, this is really exciting. I look forward to waking up every morning. I have no fucking idea.

Adrian Bozman (12:41):

I’m not going to lie to you at least, at least not consciously, you know what I mean?

Sevan Matossian (12:46):

Part of me was like, fuck, Adrian. Must be like on one hand you’re like, fuck, we were just getting settled in. It was me and Berg, but then another party must be like, oh, cool, my buddy’s back Dave. It’s like at the lunchroom and we start food fights together. So this is kind of cool that he’s back too.

Adrian Bozman (13:00):

Yeah, the hardest thing about it was the timing. I mean, dude, Dave and I’ve worked together forever. I consider, hey, sorry, I consider Dave a friend. We’ve always worked well together. We can clash heads well, we can agree. Well, we can run the full gamut. You know what I mean? That’s nothing new. Honestly, the hardest thing about this year with Dave coming back was the timing because it happened, so I think it was five weeks before the games. So trying to bring him up to speed on everything that we had planned and then also receiving his input and then trying to adjust based on that input where we could and where it made sense. That was a challenge just because there was no time. But as far as Dave’s back in the mix, dude, I mean, yes, of course I am excited about that and was excited about that.


It’s always nice to have that. As far as the last five years, dude, I mean I don’t think anybody, no matter how close you are to this kind of internal landscape or if you’re just somebody who’s a fan or an observer, I mean, dude, it’s no secret the last five years have been a roller coaster to say the least, I think for everybody. And so to me, I think it really just comes down to, I still believe in the thing. And yeah, the entity that has the name CrossFit on it has gone through a lot of changes, but I think the thing itself is still pretty true to what it has been. There’s some window dressing around it and there’s some loud voices that want to tell you how different it is, but at the end of the day, I’m like specifically

Sevan Matossian (14:38):

You’re talking about CrossFit in as a whole or the games or the methodology when you say, yeah,

Adrian Bozman (14:43):

All three of those things. All three. Well, no, I would say the methodology I think is still the same as it’s always been. It’s more visible now, and so there’s people that kind of take it in some directions that you’re like, okay, cool. I guess maybe you’re missing the central ideas here a little bit, but fine. That’s what happens when things become more mainstream. That’s just part of the deal, the game. And there’s a

Sevan Matossian (15:04):

Group of us that are getting older. I got to throw this in there as much as people make fun of it, and it’s a joke, but Intensity’s not my friend anymore. I have be to be very

Adrian Bozman (15:14):


Sevan Matossian (15:15):

Because I can push so hard that I hurt myself every workout. When I was younger, I couldn’t do that. I could push as hard as I wanted and the machine would break and then it would get back up. Now it breaks. And so there’s an evolution in some of us. There’s an evolution in it, just a positive evolution because just many of us who started in our twenties or thirties are now 50 and 60.

Adrian Bozman (15:38):

Oh, I completely agree. And I think on a personal level, man, I mean I think I’ve got two genuinely hard efforts annually at this point. You know what I mean? Where you’re like, I really uncorked it and I really went for it. It’s like I got two of those and the rest of the time it’s like you just have to let it find you. You don’t have to go looking for it at Burn’s. Got it.

Sevan Matossian (16:02):

Intensity. Yeah, relative, but relative used to mean also be different then than it is now. I like what Slinky’s saying a hundred percent. Someone, I still love CrossFit, but my body doesn’t love to do it the way I used to do it in oh nine. Yeah, for sure. But I still want to be a CrossFitter and I still want to get included. I don’t want Andrew Hiller telling me because I didn’t do it for time that I’m out. But I also understand his sentiment.

Adrian Bozman (16:26):

I’m ignorant to his point of view.

Sevan Matossian (16:29):

He just said the three things kind of similar to some things that David said like, Hey, CrossFit, you have to make yourself vulnerable. There has to be a clock. And there was one other component, and it’s like, yes, sometimes I don’t do it with the clock, but I understand your sentiment that it needs a clock. But I’m scared.

Adrian Bozman (16:44):

Yeah, cool. I dunno, I find a lot of conversations around this to be, it’s like most philosophy discussion, it’s just kind of masturbatory at best. I mean, what’s that? I

Sevan Matossian (16:55):

Ched up a little, I chugged up a little

Adrian Bozman (16:58):

For police. They’re going to come to my garage. I mean until they’re knocking on my garage door and tell me, Hey, we’re going to take that cart away. I’m not too worried about it.

Sevan Matossian (17:07):

I mean this with a hundred percent sincerity, this is with zero excuse. If you have me do some movements and I can’t do them, let’s say some dance movements and I’m failing at them. Let’s say you’re like, Hey, I’m going to teach you how to moonwalk and I’m failing. That means I’m learning. If I’m not failing, I’m not learning. I remember hearing Serena Williams go off on this. You have to be failing in practice. Those five years that you did that the last five years have to be great for you because there were so many challenges that you overcame that you had to have only have gotten better. I’m not even trying to fluff it, but it had to have been great. Looking back, you’re like, fuck yeah, we did the one with Covid. Fuck yeah, we did the one without Dave. Fuck yeah, we did the one with a transition of CEOs. It’s like, we did it. We do it.

Adrian Bozman (17:56):

Yeah. I lose sight of that if I’m honest, because it’s just always like, all right, well, what’s the next thing? And your head’s down kind of working towards that. And I don’t know that that’s necessarily positive. It’s positive that yeah, we’re always okay, we’re looking forward. But on a personal level, yeah, I think it would be good for me mentally to give myself the win. I’m pretty self-critical and I’m pretty not one to be proud of things and it would probably be in my best interest to acknowledge that a little bit more. So I do appreciate you saying that and I can look back on it intellectually and say, yeah, we did overcome a lot, but

Sevan Matossian (18:34):

Dude, there were three people basically running the games. You, Dave, Justin Berg, my opinion, you don’t have to agree with Tony

Adrian Bozman (18:43):

Back in the day,

Sevan Matossian (18:45):

But I mean rolling out of let’s say 2018. Okay,

Adrian Bozman (18:49):


Sevan Matossian (18:50):

Yeah. And those were the three, and I’m not discredited. I think

Adrian Bozman (18:53):

Jay Mac needs a shout in there too. He’s truly unsung. I mean, there’s so many unsung heroes behind the scenes, but he’s definitely one I think that needs a,

Sevan Matossian (19:03):

And I apologize, I’m sure that there’s people I’m leaving, but just from my perspective, those were the faces of it. And then Dave gets fired and then it’s you and Justin Berg and then Justin Berg takes some hits and he goes down and it’s like, holy fuck, whether you wanted to or not. The outside world was like, Hey, this shit’s riding. Riding on the BI

Adrian Bozman (19:29):

Guess so.

Sevan Matossian (19:30):

And you got thrust into it,

Adrian Bozman (19:32):

Man, let me tell you something, not

Sevan Matossian (19:33):

Thrust. You were already there, but then you were exposed, the foreskin was pulled back and there was Adrian.

Adrian Bozman (19:38):

Yeah. A couple of things that you kind make my thinking head towards. You’re talking about how it’s got to be a growth five years just due to the challenge associated with it. Maybe that’s true, but I do remember in 2020, actually, I remember having a lot of conversations with you when everything was kind of getting wild. But one of the things that I did during that time, specifically when everything was going crazy, was I sat down and started just thinking about what I tried to actually reflect on my involvement and what I’ve done via CrossFit over the years. And that was the first time that I’d really done that. And then I tried to take that and think about it. Okay, how can I summarize that? What I came to the conclusion of that I think has helped a lot in the last couple years was that I have had a hand in this subculture in a lot of ways.


I’m not going to toot my own horn and say that I was so pivotal that it wouldn’t have happened without me or whatever. But yeah, I’ve been at the center of a lot of really cool stuff. And so regardless of what that looks like in the future, okay, if I get fired tomorrow or if I get promoted tomorrow or whatever, people love me on the internet or hate me on the internet, regardless of any of that, I have to believe that there’s a place within this subculture for me to do the things that I’m going to do. And so that I think is something that I try to come back to when shit’s getting hairy or just weird or I’m not quite sure what the navigation is, I’m like, well, at the end of the day, maybe it doesn’t matter because I’m pretty confident that I’ve had an impact and regardless of what happens next, there will be a place for me within this culture. Do you know what I mean?

Sevan Matossian (21:21):

It’s funny you say that. I do know what you mean. I just spent three years chipping out a little spot for myself. I climbed up on a perch and chipped off a little piece of a cliff for myself that I can now sleep on. I got a good spot. So excited.

Adrian Bozman (21:39):

The nest seems to be more and more padded every time, which is good.

Sevan Matossian (21:42):

Dude, it’s plush. I have cold and hot drinks now. Both.

Adrian Bozman (21:50):

Yeah, it’s got snacks and shit. Yeah,

Sevan Matossian (21:52):

I got snacks on my perch. It’s like when your kid builds a fort out of blankets and next thing you know he wants you to build one in a tree somewhere that has electricity. You’re like, easy kid. Go back to the living room with your blanket and your pillows

Adrian Bozman (22:05):

One step at a time.

Sevan Matossian (22:08):

Adrian, there was a point that I remember, I don’t remember the exact year, but I’m going to say it was 2017 and I had heard it many times, but where I would hear Greg say Dave or two, a bunch of people, I do not want the games making money. I’m going to be so angry if I ever hear that the games is making money, I do not want it to be a moneymaking operation. And then at some point I think I

Adrian Bozman (22:31):

Wasn’t aware of that

Sevan Matossian (22:32):

And some point I

Adrian Bozman (22:33):

Knew that it wasn’t expected to be, but to be explicit that

Sevan Matossian (22:36):

Way. Yeah, it was very clear not to turn into a moneymaking operation. And then at some point when the new CEO came in, the guy between Greg and Dave came in, it just flipped overnight, just all literally on one second it was like, don’t make money. And then the next second it was like, Hey, this thing better make money. And now, now it is. Don’s very candid on these podcasts he goes into about the importance of it being a fiscally responsible event. But when I was at the event, I didn’t see anything different When I was at the 2023 games, it seemed like energized as I never left SU’s like, holy fuck, I can’t believe how good I feel. It was like we were. That’s great. It was like those people go to Sedona to sit under a rock to feel like that. We went to the CrossFit game.

Adrian Bozman (23:25):

You can definitely feel

Sevan Matossian (23:26):

The energy. We were, you’re cleansed, you get a spiritual enema. I can’t really explain it. And you leave there just kind of, yeah, all your faith is back.

Adrian Bozman (23:39):

I mean that’s a huge compliment and I’m so glad that that’s the case. I sort of feel that way mostly. I just feel exhausted at the end of that week. But I understand what you’re saying and I guess that’s kind of the point I was trying to make earlier is that financials aside. And I think a lot of those, the business side of things, a lot of it goes unseen either way because there’s tons of operational costs that are crazy that people just, if they don’t have experience with big events, they’re just not going to be privy to it and they’re just not going to recognize how expensive certain things are. And then on the other side, it’s like sometimes I think we’ve been caught in the trap where we’ve done things a certain way for a while and then the expectation is we keep doing it that way.


And then you step away from that thing, whatever it happens to be, and maybe it saves you X amount of money and nobody really noticed anyway, and you’re like, oh, okay, well maybe that would’ve been a smarter business move six years ago. You know what I mean? So I think there’s a lot more evaluation on that and I get it. I think Don’s very fair when it comes to that sort of thing about like, yeah, dude, it can’t be like this big anchor that’s just pulling tons of funds and all of that. Yeah, it’s got to make money. It’s got to be responsible. Sure. I think that makes sense.

Sevan Matossian (24:57):

And it’s not bugging you. You guys aren’t like, well, fuck you. We were Brading got to do whatever the fuck we wanted. Now it’s not,

Adrian Bozman (25:03):

Well, I never got to be in that position where I got to do whatever I wanted. So it’s business. It was

Sevan Matossian (25:08):

Great. Alright, well it was great. Okay. Sorry I brought that up. It’s all

Adrian Bozman (25:12):

Good. I mean I got a lot of latitude, but it was never quite on that level.

Sevan Matossian (25:16):

Alright. Projecting. I was projecting, I was spoiled. Little baby Boz, will we ever see a three? We were talking adult shit. Now you got to bring this kitty shit in here. Boz

Adrian Bozman (25:29):

That time, man. All questions about the open all the time.

Sevan Matossian (25:33):

Boz, will we ever see something, a three rep max, a bench press and the CrossFit games open for

Adrian Bozman (25:41):

The big lift? I would say never say never, but for the open, that’s unlikely.

Sevan Matossian (25:46):

Not when you’re alive probably.

Adrian Bozman (25:49):

Well, I mean I maybe, Hey man, I threw bench in the quarterfinals a couple times, but

Sevan Matossian (25:59):

Can you tell me how was it used in the quarterfinals? Refresh me?

Adrian Bozman (26:04):

We did the other total one year, which is the overhead squat, clean and bench press. So it was a one rep max, so that was cool. And then we did it, I can’t remember if it was last year, there was a rope climb, bench press shuttle run famously called the most boring workout by Mr. Rich.

Sevan Matossian (26:25):


Adrian Bozman (26:25):

Yeah, that’s right.

Sevan Matossian (26:29):

Hey, if you can be number one in something, number one,

Adrian Bozman (26:33):

Whatever. It’s just funny, those types of internet soundbites. And then I feel like there’s been one or two in online comp that we’ve done bench recently. Maybe for one of the master’s stages. I can’t remember off the cuff.

Sevan Matossian (26:51):

You still get sore when you do bench

Adrian Bozman (26:53):

Me? Yeah. I mean right now, man, I get sore when I do pretty much everything. All I’ve been doing lately is juujitsu. I have not been very disciplined on the CrossFit front. How

Sevan Matossian (27:03):

Much have you been doing? More than twice a week?

Adrian Bozman (27:06):

Yeah. I try to go Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, and then if I can, there’s an open mat on Saturday, but I haven’t been very good about making that lately.

Sevan Matossian (27:14):

How long have you been consistent with that? You got six months under your belt? Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday.

Adrian Bozman (27:20):

Jujitsu? Yeah. You mean when did I start? Or

Sevan Matossian (27:24):

How long? No, just this consistency. Three days a week. How long have you been doing that consistently?

Adrian Bozman (27:28):

Oh, before the games, I was doing really well, so the beginning of this year I was running that schedule pretty consistently. I fell off in the summer months and then I picked it up again. Probably trying to look at the calendar, probably around September. Since then, I’ve been pretty good about that.

Sevan Matossian (27:44):

Damn. You see any body composition change from that?

Adrian Bozman (27:47):


Sevan Matossian (27:48):


Adrian Bozman (27:50):

I see a lot of my other aspects of fitness declining. Oh, interesting. Because I don’t do as much CrossFit. That’s something I’m trying to be better about this year is to get back on a little bit more of a routine with CrossFit, so to speak.

Sevan Matossian (28:08):

Magnus, Holson bs agreed to join to talk about the behind the scenes not being interrogated. Oh, oh,

Adrian Bozman (28:15):

Oh. I don’t mind. I don’t He knew, dude, come on for Seon. This is pretty Damn.

Mattew Souza (28:22):

Yeah, I was surprised. I saw the gee behind you in the practice dummy back there and I was like, man, he must be either that’s been sitting there collecting dust or he’s been active.

Adrian Bozman (28:30):


Sevan Matossian (28:31):

J Howell. I think this is regarding the bench. Mr. Bosman, good morning. From JR Howell. Still never been at the games. Boman. Good morning, Jr. Oh, that’s a

Adrian Bozman (28:39):

Great point.

Sevan Matossian (28:41):

Excellent. JR is not aggressive or a dick, but I’m going to read this. He’s a dick, Adrian, but it’s never been at the games. Dude. Twice at regionals, semis, Linda Variations, but never at the games, bro.

Adrian Bozman (28:53):

Yeah, the 2018, Linda was still one of my favorite regionals. That was the year that we really saw dude.

Sevan Matossian (28:59):

The last Linda was awesome

Adrian Bozman (29:01):

Too, dude. I, that dude. Yeah, it was pretty cool. That was awesome. That heat of 20 where you got to see so many people I thought was

Sevan Matossian (29:06):

Cool. The coverage murdered, dude, that was one they brought in just the podcast cams and they had Conway and Chase and Khalifa doing it. It was fucking nuts, dude. Khalifa was losing his mind. It was so good.

Adrian Bozman (29:23):

He’s a very enthusiastic guy. It’s good. It’s always good to have him on mic

Sevan Matossian (29:26):

For that. And Colton made that workout look like it’s never, I didn’t even know Clinda could look like that

Adrian Bozman (29:31):

Dude. Yeah,

Sevan Matossian (29:32):

Sandwich. That was fucking nuts. They redefined the workouts in their, almost like they go from, that’s a strength workout, but not for Colton. It’s a Metcon. I mean, it’s fucking nuts.

Adrian Bozman (29:46):

Yeah. The 2018 year that we did that, I think that was Kreb’s real breakout year. He crushed the regionals that year, but then he couldn’t make it to the United States. But I think that was the first.

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