Ant Haynes & Jamie Simmonds | 2023 CrossFit Games Prep

Sevan Matossian (00:00):

Good life. Yeah, I’m trying. My mornings are crazy. My mornings are crazy. Bam. We’re here. Look at your, look at your tier support.

Ant Haynes (00:08):

Yes. It’s good, isn’t it? I’m just, yeah. So I signed a, I mean, I obviously, I, I, so I signed a, uh, a short term contract at the end of the day, but I’m still waiting on my gear, so I’m just here representing right now.

Sevan Matossian (00:20):

Dude. That is legit. That is legit. <laugh>. Um, am I pronouncing your name right? Ant?

Ant Haynes (00:28):

Yeah. An Hanes? Yeah,

Sevan Matossian (00:30):

An Hanes an

Ant Haynes (00:31):

It it is Anthony, but yeah.

Sevan Matossian (00:33):

Oh, okay. Okay. Look at me. I can’t even figure that stuff out. Um, who shortened it to Ant?

Ant Haynes (00:39):

I did.

Sevan Matossian (00:40):

Oh, okay. Did your friends just start calling you Ant you don’t have to have your shirt on, you’re, you’re, nah,

Ant Haynes (00:46):

That’s done. Okay. We’ll get it back on. We’ll get it back on. Let’s just,

Sevan Matossian (00:49):

Terry, you got your, uh, 42 seconds

Ant Haynes (00:52):

<laugh>. Um, yeah, I dunno, really. Uh, an is just, I, not just a normal abbreviation of the name

Sevan Matossian (00:59):

Anthony. I don’t know. I don’t know any, um, now that, um, I’m trying to think if I know any Anthony’s maybe, um, I think maybe Justin Madeira’s dad’s name is Anthony, but they call him Tony, I

Ant Haynes (01:11):

Think. Yeah. So if, so, so I’m half English, half Chinese. So if I’m in the uk, in England, um, Tony is like a very normal, normal way to abbreviate Anthony. Um, but I dunno, when I’m in, because I’m in Hong Kong, obviously there’s Chinese people everywhere. It’s quite hard to introduce yourself as ant to someone who doesn’t speak English. So I’ll, I’ll actually introduce myself a lot of the time as Anthony or Anthony. I don’t even know which one it is. I’ve got an H in there. So it’s a N T H? Yeah. Yeah. O n Y. But, uh, it’s normally Anthony. And, uh, then the second time I meet them, it’ll be an, and then that’s it.

Sevan Matossian (01:49):

So you will pronounce your, your, your, um, um, your name Anthony or Anthony, like you, you just

Ant Haynes (01:55):

Roll with the, the latter. Yeah. Well, whichever one’s easier. I don’t know.

Sevan Matossian (01:59):


Ant Haynes (01:59):

It. Aunt’s easiest.

Sevan Matossian (02:01):

Um, which, which, uh, parent is, uh, Chinese and which is English.

Ant Haynes (02:07):

My mom’s, uh, my mom’s from Hong Kong and my dad’s from the uk

Sevan Matossian (02:11):

And get me up to speed a little bit. When you say your mom’s, um, Hong Kong, she was, she was born in Hong Kong.

Ant Haynes (02:17):

Yeah. So, um, so obviously Hong Kong is now a part of China. Um, it used to be under British rule up until 1997. Um, but my mom was born and raised in Hong Kong. She’s lived there her entire life. Um, my dad was born in the uk. He went across to Hong Kong, I think like 30, uh, almost probably about 40 years now. He’s been in Hong Kong. Um, and he hasn’t looked back. He obviously had yellow fever, met my mom and that’s it. He stayed over there. So yeah, that’s it. I’ve, I’ve, I was born in Hong Kong. Me and my brother, uh, we have a half sister for my mom’s first marriage. Um, but we’re all three of us born in Hong Kong and brought up in Hong Kong. All three of us went to university in the UK and have since returned back to Hong Kong, um, to live and to start up our business and do life over there.

Sevan Matossian (03:13):

Very thorough. Thank you, by the way. That easy. Hey, what are your, are your siblings older or younger?

Ant Haynes (03:19):

Um, so my, uh, half sister is the oldest. Um, she is in her forties. Uh, my brother is a year and a half older than me. Uh, and then I’m the youngest. I just recently just, um, 34, which I, I won’t say I feel old if I’m talking to you on this podcast. I’m not saying you are old either, but, uh, <laugh>, I, I, I feel old for what I’m about to take on next weekend,

Sevan Matossian (03:45):

Dude. Crazy. It’s so awesome that you came out. It’s, yeah. What a last minute. We’ll get to that, but what a last minute crazy, uh, adventure. And are you an affiliate owner, Anne?

Ant Haynes (03:55):

Yes. Yes. Uh, myself and my brother, uh, own an affiliate called CrossFit, C s t L. Um, our actual, just, our gym name is called Coastal. Um, so we abbreviated it to C S T L and we’ve been an affiliate for over 10 years, I believe.

Sevan Matossian (04:11):

Uh, cs, uh, C S T L, uh, CrossFit, um, C

Ant Haynes (04:14):

S T L? Yeah,

Sevan Matossian (04:15):

T Okay. Ts, uh, tl. What’s that stand for?

Ant Haynes (04:19):

Sorry? It’s C S T L

Sevan Matossian (04:20):

C S T L. What’s that stand for?

Ant Haynes (04:22):

Yeah, it’s just, uh, just, um, a shortened version of Coastal.

Sevan Matossian (04:25):

Oh, okay. So you said that. Sorry, sorry. Yeah. Bear with me here.

Ant Haynes (04:31):

All good. It’s early in the

Sevan Matossian (04:32):

Morning. I, I, well, I also learned that, um, yesterday I had oldest Uix on. Yeah. And like, um, the, the literacy rate in, in Latvia where he’s from is 99%, it’s like one of the highest in the world, in the country. I’m from the United States, it’s 79% <laugh>. And I actually feel it, I feel like when I have people on from over the pond or far away places like Hong Kong or Latvia, I’m like, yep, you’re smarter. You, you <laugh> feel sharper.

Ant Haynes (05:00):


Sevan Matossian (05:01):

I, I only use 17 letters in the Alphabet <laugh>. Um, and uh, so you wanna cross? Can I, you’re, I don’t wanna be rude. Um, my mom taught me to be, uh, polite. So I wanna say, is your rent crazy expensive? It’s, ’cause when I think of Hong Kong, I think of like, this would be the size of someone’s apartment, and you have to, you go in there and you just stand <laugh>

Ant Haynes (05:24):

You, you’re not, you’re not far the

Sevan Matossian (05:26):

Truth. And it’s $5,000 a month.

Ant Haynes (05:29):

Oh man. Like, uh, property over there is, it’s like, it’s insane. So, you know, obviously, so I’ve spent some time, uh, in Atlanta with the guys at Train Think Tank. I’m pretty close with those guys. Um, our company and, uh, the guys, max, Hajj, Travis Mayer, Carl Ruth, those guys out there at Train think Temp. We’ve got a pretty good relationship just ’cause, uh, my brother used to be coached by Carl Ruth, who’s one of the coaches out there. And, uh, so I talked to people like Travis Mayer, max Hajj, about rent in the gym space. So let me tell you in US dollars, how much we pay for a roof over our head in our gym.

Sevan Matossian (06:08):

Is your gym on the ground or is it in the air?

Ant Haynes (06:11):

Uh, it’s on the ground floor. Yeah, it’s on the ground floor.

Sevan Matossian (06:15):

And is there a lot of foot traffic where you’re at?

Ant Haynes (06:17):

Nope. It’s not in like this. Not, no, not in the middle of the city or anything. Um, it’s actually, it’s actually down like almost an industrial style, uh, area Okay. Of, of the place that we’re in. But I, I believe we pay, so we pay a quarter of a million Hong Kong dollars a month.

Sevan Matossian (06:36):

A month?

Ant Haynes (06:38):

A month? Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (06:40):

A quarter million is 250,000.

Ant Haynes (06:42):

Yeah. So that’s, that’s about 30, 31,000 US dollars a month.

Sevan Matossian (06:47):

Oh my God.

Ant Haynes (06:49):

That’s before we’ve paid a member of staff that’s, uh, before we’ve paid an electricity or water bill. Yeah. It’s, uh, I mean it’s relative. It it’s definitely relative.

Sevan Matossian (06:59):

I hear ya. I hear ya. Yeah, I hear ya. But it’s still, it, it’s still, uh, and what’s the membership at your gym?

Ant Haynes (07:06):

So I also, so it is funny, a couple years ago, I think just before Covid, um, some CrossFit magazine, I think it’s called like Box Rocks or something like that. They did a, um, a survey of the most expensive gym memberships in the world for CrossFit gym memberships in the world for like an unlimited membership.

Sevan Matossian (07:23):

I wanna guess how much it is before you tell me. Keep going.

Ant Haynes (07:26):

And, uh, the out of the top five, uh, four of them were gyms from Hong Kong.

Sevan Matossian (07:32):

I’m gonna guess that your membership is, it’s $500 US dollars a month.

Ant Haynes (07:38):

Let’s have a look. It’s just, just just under, yeah. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (07:42):

Just under there. I mean, how can it not be?

Ant Haynes (07:45):

Yeah, it’s, yeah, dude, I mean it’s, it’s, it’s hard. Like, you know, we, you know, we, we love doing what we do and we’re super grateful that we get to do it. But you know, just to see your spreadsheet be in the green at the end of the month is like, it’s a rarity. Sometimes <laugh>, most of the time actually,

Sevan Matossian (08:03):

Dude, the stress to have that nut, like, you just see, like, you pay it and then like, you’re like, ah. And then it just, the next morning you wake up and it’s coming over, roll around again. <laugh>. Exactly. 29 days away from like

Ant Haynes (08:17):

Coming. I know. Shit, dude. Tell me. It’s, uh, it’s, it’s, I mean, look, it wasn’t easy for anyone during Covid. Like Right. That shit sucked. Um, uh, our part of the world, Hong Kong was in a pretty much a lockdown for three years. Wow. Like, you know, the mask mandate only just went, uh, how long ago did the mask mandate go down? Actually, last year. Yeah, last year. Like in the beginning of beginning of this year, the mask mandate went. So like, you know, it’s still very normal and most people in Hong Kong are still wearing masks.

Sevan Matossian (08:48):

Um, we, most people. Most people,

Ant Haynes (08:51):

Yeah. Yeah. A lot of people are still wearing masks. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (08:54):


Ant Haynes (08:55):

It’s a very much a, um, it’s almost like a, the fear is being put into people for that.

Sevan Matossian (09:02):

Hey, I used to travel a lot, like, and I used to go all over the world. I went to all the continents, and this is 20 years ago, but when I would travel, I would see Asian people, I don’t know of what descent, I don’t know if they were Chinese or Japanese or Korean or what they were, but it, it was, if I ever saw anyone wearing a mask on a plane, and I would see it periodically, it was always Asian people. It was some, somehow, and I never knew what it was for.

Ant Haynes (09:29):

Neither do I,

Sevan Matossian (09:30):

But it somehow, but it was somehow and, uh, um, I don’t know, part of the culture. It, it’s, um, you know what I mean? I should have figured that out before. Now. Everyone’s wearing them before it became trendy. Yeah.

Ant Haynes (09:41):

Yeah. <laugh>, uh, yeah, I mean, masks were definitely quite trendy at some point in, in Hong Kong. Um, but yeah, I dunno why. Yeah, I agree. You know, there’s a lot of, uh, thinking back now before Covid, there’s definitely times that you see, um, Asian people wearing masks. Um, and dunno, I guess they just feel safer with it. <laugh>, I can’t think of a reason.

Sevan Matossian (10:02):

We had weird stuff here in the States. Um, uh, ant you could go to some states and you would not see one person wearing a mask during the peak of it. And then other states you wouldn’t see one person not wearing a mask. And if you took yours off, people would yell at you. But it was in the same country. It was so, it was such a man, it was such a weird time. Yeah.

Ant Haynes (10:21):

Strange. I mean, we couldn’t even, we couldn’t, we could barely leave our, uh, we could barely leave Hong Kong, like the, there were basically no flights going in and outta Hong Kong. And if there was a flight coming back in, you’d have to quarantine for three weeks, sit in a hotel for three weeks, which is like hugely expensive to do that. Yeah. Anyway, because no hotels will even participating in, you know, putting out someone who would potentially have covid into their hotel, and then who the fuck wants to sit in the hotel room for three weeks? There’s nothing to do. It’s lonely, it’s boring, it’s not good for your mental health, all your physical health. So everyone just ended up staying put in Hong Kong or a lot of people just, you know, so in terms of our, you know, when you think about how hard Covid was for the gym, it, we lost a third of our membership.


They just basically took their whole families and went back to wherever they’re from. You know, we, we have a lot of, uh, the main bulk of our membership is definitely, um, expatriate, so foreigner based. Um, but the local market’s grown as well. But you know, a lot, a lot of those people just said, and us enough, we can’t, can’t deal with this anymore. Kids aren’t going to school. Um, they’re not learning, they’re not playing sports. No one’s taking care of their health. No one gives a shit over here. So they, they all went back to UK, America, Canada, Australia, wherever they’re from originally. And, uh, yeah, pretty sad. You know, a lot of, a lot of friends of mine have left. A lot of our clients, uh, have left as well. So,

Sevan Matossian (11:45):

<crosstalk>, was there a big population decline in Hong Kong during, after that? Like, is there, is there like a metric on it? Like Hong Kong lost 10% of its people or,

Ant Haynes (11:53):

Yeah, I think Lee, what was the metric that Hong Kong lost? Like 10% of foreigners. Was it during Covid? Oh yeah. At least. At least. Yeah. There was like 10% of expats left Hong Kong. It was pretty insane. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (12:08):

Wow. Chris, you know, we had, we had, um, movement populations like that too. Like, um, schools, um, we have, uh, like 50 million, 51 million kids who are attending the public school system before. And then after, um, I don’t, I don’t even know what to call it, but, um, after that fiasco, um, uh, only like 49 million returned. Yeah. And so like 2 million kids just decided to be homeschooled inclu schools in my area. Lots of schools closed down because they, they just didn’t have enough kids. Yeah. Which, which kind of is a, is a, is a benefit, I guess. It’s not a benefit to lose people. 10% of your population, especially if it’s the, um, is the minority, is are the expats the minority in Hong Kong?

Ant Haynes (12:49):


Sevan Matossian (12:50):

Yeah. You don’t wanna lose that because that, that creates a lot of, um, uh, um, trade, right? Yeah. You want, you want foreigners because that, that brings money back and forth, right? Yeah.

Ant Haynes (13:01):

Yeah. They’re generally in like a, some sort of job, which requires their expertise.

Sevan Matossian (13:06):

Hey, how come, um, uh, e e every country, every Asian country I’ve been to, uh, Japan, um, Thailand, um, I’ve been to China a handful of times. Um, half dozen more. Um, it, I would, you know, you get there and you jet lag. So you get up at some crackpot hour and you start walking the streets at 4:00 AM Right. Looking for something that’s open. And the, the, the Asian people are always, every one of these countries in the morning, there’s a group of people who’s out on the street corners, like at 6:00 AM doing some sort of movement, or you walk by a park and it’s packed. Yeah,

Ant Haynes (13:40):


Sevan Matossian (13:40):

With people doing movements. I, and it’s crazy, right? This, this, these group of people, and it’s, and it crossed all boundaries of all the different Asian descents. And yet it doesn’t seem CrossFit takes off in those countries, which you would think, I mean, you never see what, what I saw in China, in the United States. I never walked by a park in the United States at 6:00 AM and there’s 400 elderly people doing Tai Chi or whatever they’re doing. I’m making that up. I don’t know what they’re doing, but it looks like that.

Ant Haynes (14:06):

Oh yeah. It’s a, it’s t a lot of it’s Tai Chi or like a Woohoo, where they have like, um, it looks like they have like swords or they have like the fans, the fan open in front of them. Yeah. Um, yeah, I, I, I mean it’s, it’s awesome. Like, it’s really cool that like the, uh, it’s

Sevan Matossian (14:19):

So cool

Ant Haynes (14:20):

Population do that. And like, there’s actually, like, like you said, it kind of spans across all, uh, all races, ages, and sizes of people, which is awesome. Um, but yeah, I, I think the reason why CrossFit, especially in a country like Hong Kong, um, maybe not so much. I think like Korea, it’s really taken off. Like there’s CrossFit huge, okay. Consumer like Korea, right? Um, but somewhere like Hong Kong, like things that are physically challenging, it doesn’t really resonate with Hong Kong local people very much. Things that like, uh, can hurt you bruise the body, like, you know, a sport like American football, rugby, football, soccer, whatever you wanna call it. You know, that sort of stuff where you’re not necessarily protected by the, the rules of the game. And the referee, like, it’s, it, it’s popular, but they never excel. Like Hong Kong’s never been good at those sports really, um, within, within the local population.


Uh, they much prefer games like a badminton, a table tennis, a basketball where like contact isn’t really, um, a massive point in the sport. So something like CrossFit where, you know, you’re potentially ripping hands, you’ve got barbells slamming onto you, shit hurts when you’re doing it. It doesn’t really fly. Um, also Hong Kong, um, in terms of the way that the Hong Kong people are brought up, everything is academic based. Um, you know, even even the way that my, so my, my half sister, she’s fully Cantonese, so the way that she was brought up was in a local schooling. It’s like, don’t worry about your sports, don’t worry about that stuff. Just like, nail your grades, nail school, get through that and then do what you want afterwards. Uh, so as you’re brought up, like there’s nothing like you guys got here in the States, like even driving around Madison the other day, seeing the university campus of all the creative facilities that these universities got out here, it’s just like, I think it’s, I think it’s sick.


I think it looks awesome. Like you go to Hong Kong, you don’t see any of that shit. You take one basketball court and that’s about it. Um, so yeah. It’s, it’s just not, uh, sport and hard work in like, the physical side of things isn’t really kind of drilled into you in, in Hong Kong. And I, you know, I can’t really speak for the rest of Asia. ’cause obviously I grew up in Hong Kong, but that’s how I see it. Um, having said that though, since Covid, again, there’s definitely been a shift to towards people investing more in health and fitness. Oh, cool, cool. Yeah, absolutely. And the local people as well. Um, which is definitely cool. Yeah. So

Sevan Matossian (16:48):

They see, they understand the value of it. Absolutely. Yeah. To, to, and to, to build the immune system. Be, you know, be strong. Hey, are there, I live in one of the fittest towns in the United States. Yeah. And yet, and yet, if I go to, um, the burrito store here in town, one mile away from one of the most beautiful oceans in the world, there will be, at lunchtime, there’ll be 65 people there. And I’ll look around and I’ll realize that there’s not one person who’s not obese. And by obese I mean 40 pound, someone will be 40 pounds overweight and they’ll be the skinniest person there. Yeah. And I’ll just be like, wow. Like I, I can’t, I’m, I’m used to it. Or I’ll go into Home Depot and I’ll be like, wow, let’s play a game and see if we can just find one person who’s not obese. Like, I don’t even think people realize what obese is anymore because we’ve reca. We’ve recalibrated.

Ant Haynes (17:42):

Absolutely. Um,

Sevan Matossian (17:43):

I, I know I’m about to fly to Madison. I’m gonna get on the airplane. I’m not even gonna believe what I see.

Ant Haynes (17:48):

It’s it, I mean, me, like,

Sevan Matossian (17:49):

Do you have that in Hong Kong? Are there any obese? No.

Ant Haynes (17:51):

No. I mean, is that mean there is there, of course there is. Right? You do see them, but it’s, it, it is very much an anomaly to see someone, you know, when I see the, I’m, I’m just saying this ’cause I’m in America right now, but when I like step off the plane and I see people at the airport, I’m like, holy shit. Like

Sevan Matossian (18:10):

It’s different. Right.

Ant Haynes (18:10):

Is not normal to be like that. That, yeah. You know, of course you get people who are overweight and whatnot in Hong Kong and you know, that that’s, I guess a part of life, but like the size that I’ve seen people over here is, it blows my mind.

Sevan Matossian (18:24):

Okay. That’s,

Ant Haynes (18:25):

And you, and it’s not unnormal to see it. Right? That’s

Sevan Matossian (18:28):

The thing. Right. Um, when I was a, I I, when the first time I went to, I went to Texas like 30 years ago, I did, I had a job chasing tornadoes. And I remember, not in any negative way with no judgment, I just remembered that there were a lot of places that were all you can eat. And I would go in there and I had never see, I had never coming from California, and I was a well traveled person through California, but I had never seen, like if I saw someone who’s 300 pounds back then, it was like, wow. And then, but I went to Texas and they were everywhere. And then now in California, it’s like that, but not like that in Hong Kong. It’s still an anomaly.

Ant Haynes (19:01):

Yeah. I mean, Hong Kong people are generally quite small, quite petite people anyway. Yeah. Um, so to get that size would be like a real eye opener. If you got that size in Hong Kong,

Sevan Matossian (19:11):

You would stick out like a sore thumb.

Ant Haynes (19:13):

Big time. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (19:14):

Yeah. So, so it’s so interesting. And yet academics are the primary thing for kids.

Ant Haynes (19:20):

Yeah, absolutely. Still are now. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (19:23):

Uh, behind the scenes fund watch since 2013. It got me hooked back then. Thank you.

Ant Haynes (19:28):

Oh, yeah. Behind the scenes. What are you doing with that? Are you gonna, are you

Sevan Matossian (19:32):

Back? Dude, I’m so pumped. I’m so pumped. I’m so excited. Yeah. I’m so excited. Excited to, I’m

Ant Haynes (19:38):

Excited to see it.

Sevan Matossian (19:39):

To put the camera and, and ant Haynes, uh, face. Are you, uh, uh, Allegra Shaker fund for your wolverine intra, I’m not, I’m not a good enough athlete to have a shaker. I still use a spoon

Ant Haynes (19:51):

<laugh> instead, not shaken.

Sevan Matossian (19:55):

Uh, Harley, uh, Jew writer. Oh, I like that Harley Jew rider. Uh, a Jewish man on a Harley. I’m an Armenian man on a Harley with three Jewish kids. I jumped on to finally catch a live one 11 in these athlete interviews behind the scenes. Fun. You’re gonna kill it. Thanks, dude. I appreciate it. Let’s see if there’s anyone else who, uh, needs, needs a hug. Holy cow. Dude, you are popular. I cannot believe how many comments there already. A Deja Nintendo. I was in China and the gatherings of old people just dancing at the end of the day. I know. It’s nuts. Right? It’s community and health incarnate. Great part of the culture.

Ant Haynes (20:33):

Yeah. I I love Deja Nintendo’s, uh, profile. That’s good.

Sevan Matossian (20:37):

That’s crazy, right? <laugh>. <laugh>. Hey, did you bring a computer with you?

Ant Haynes (20:41):

I did, yeah.

Sevan Matossian (20:42):

You did a laptop?

Ant Haynes (20:43):

Yes, sir.

Sevan Matossian (20:44):

Yeah. Good on you. An apple or you’re a a PC guy or a

Ant Haynes (20:47):

It’s a, it’s an apple.

Sevan Matossian (20:49):

Oh, nice. And, uh, does Hong Kong have a sweet Apple store?

Ant Haynes (20:52):

It has multiple sweet Apple stores. Yeah. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (20:56):

God, not

Ant Haynes (20:56):

China. You like China? Not, not, not, not like China where they’re fake out there.

Sevan Matossian (20:59):

You’ve ac have you ever seen a fake Apple store?

Ant Haynes (21:02):

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Loads. There’s, there’s plenty in China.

Sevan Matossian (21:05):

God, that, that would be so part of me thinks that, imagine how ambitious that is. I’m gonna, I’m gonna knock that off.

Ant Haynes (21:13):

I know, right? But I mean, no one knows. No one knows any different, like if the China people out there, the mainline Chinese people, you wouldn’t know any different. It’s literally, it’s like the same. Everyone’s walking around their blue or red shirts and it’s got the lower apple tag on it, and the products are all in there. It looks <laugh>. It looks exactly the same. <laugh>. Dude,

Sevan Matossian (21:31):

That’s awesome. And it’s, it, it’s not le it’s it’s legal or it’s not legal.

Ant Haynes (21:36):

I mean, it, it’s illegal, but to start with, no one knew the difference. Right,

Sevan Matossian (21:40):

Right. So it

Ant Haynes (21:40):

Just ran like a regular business.

Sevan Matossian (21:42):

Even Tim Cook walked in there. He is like heading a great store. I didn’t know we had this location.

Ant Haynes (21:46):


Sevan Matossian (21:48):

Uh, oh, let see this, uh, uh, SEMA Globes. Uh, thanks Sevan. I is, thanks. Sevan is actually right. 11th, lowest in California, and 65th in the nation. Oh, my city. Yeah. It’s crazy fit dude. And yet, and yet it’s not. I mean, this is the, this is the home of CrossFit. There’s a gazillion CrossFit gyms here.

Ant Haynes (22:10):

Oh yeah.

Sevan Matossian (22:11):

There’s so many. Yeah. Um, uh, ant tell and, um, you, uh, I I I I guess you, you look like Superman, don’t you? <laugh>

Ant Haynes (22:23):

The camera on the apple

Sevan Matossian (22:25):

There. Wasn’t there, uh, was there a superman in in that was, um, half Asian and half, uh, half white that played? I dunno,

Ant Haynes (22:32):

Superman Clark. Clark Kent sometimes looks a bit Eurasian like me. So I’ll take that. If, if that’s the case.

Sevan Matossian (22:37):

That’s what you’re called. You’re Asian.

Ant Haynes (22:39):

Yeah. We’re a special breed <laugh>.

Sevan Matossian (22:41):

You’re Asian.

Ant Haynes (22:42):

<laugh> <laugh>. You never heard that term before? I

Sevan Matossian (22:46):

Have, but I’ve never thought of it. I would spell it with a y y o u r. Wait, y o u r e.

Ant Haynes (22:54):

You’re Asian. Hey you’re, yeah. Um,

Sevan Matossian (22:58):

Uh, there was a, there was a Clark Kent, it was the TV one. Um, yes, I

Ant Haynes (23:02):

Know which one you’re talking about.

Sevan Matossian (23:03):

Yeah. Yeah. You man, dude, you are a special looking human being. You are really, um, is that, are there a lot of people who look like you, that are, that are mixed, that are Eurasian?

Ant Haynes (23:13):

Yeah, there’s quite a lot. I mean, like when I grew up at school, there was quite a few eurasians at school. Um, it’s not, uh, uncommon to see that. Um,

Sevan Matossian (23:21):

But do they look like you? I mean, you look like, um, Asia Barto and Josh Bridges had a kid. I mean, you are something, you are something else. I’ll

Ant Haynes (23:28):

Take, I’ll, I’ll take it.

Sevan Matossian (23:30):

Yeah. I mean it’s, it’s amazing.

Ant Haynes (23:32):

Uh, yeah, I dunno. I think, um,

Sevan Matossian (23:37):

Like are there a lot of buff dudes who look like you with their hair? Like kinda like the samurai hair pulled back and, and they have the features of, of, of Eurasian. Like, like do you look around, you’re like, oh yeah, that dude kind, or No, that’s not how they, they don’t all turn out like you.

Ant Haynes (23:52):

No. So you can, you recognize Eurasian pretty quickly, but Eurasians go one of two ways. Uh, generally speaking, you get I guess one, two, uh, look, look more like me, uh, without like a, maybe a darker, slightly darker skin or, you know, the ability to get a suntan.

Sevan Matossian (24:09):

Yeah. Um,

Ant Haynes (24:10):

Um, and then you see the other forms of the Eurasian who are like, oh, jet black hair. Like jet black features and super white pale skin.

Sevan Matossian (24:18):

Like they, because ’cause Chinese people tan, but the, they don’t like those Britts don’t tan don’t. So good.

Ant Haynes (24:24):

Well, yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah. You get the, the pasty skin from the, from the European

Sevan Matossian (24:28):

Side. Oh yeah, that would suck.

Ant Haynes (24:30):

Yeah. Yes. You didn’t luck out in the drawer. If that’s the case.

Sevan Matossian (24:33):

<laugh>, uh, Michael Banyan, great job savvy. Thank you, dude. Good luck, Anne.

Ant Haynes (24:38):

Thank you Michael.

Sevan Matossian (24:39):

And does it rain a lot in, um, Hong Kong?

Ant Haynes (24:42):

Uh, it’s a tropical country. Um, so yeah, it’s pretty much on the, um, it’s on the equator, so you get a lot of typhoons, which is the equivalent of the hurricane over here, um,

Sevan Matossian (24:53):

That hit the city.

Ant Haynes (24:55):

Oh, all the time. Yeah. So actually, uh, a couple days before I flew out, there’s a Typhoon eight. So it goes, um, typhoon one, typhoon three, typhoon eight, typhoon 10 is like the category system, ranking system. Um, T eight is, you probably get like one a year or one every one to two every year. Um, so one of them just hit, um, a few days before myself and Lee flew out to the us. Um, there’s currently one in Hong Kong right now, which is just a T one. So it’s like pretty weak. It just means like the wind speed is down and it’s quite far off offshore right now. Um, but yeah, I mean it’s, it’s, we, we haven’t come through every year

Sevan Matossian (25:35):

A T eight. Uh, you can’t even, don’t even use an umbrella just, we’ll just rip your umbrella just to Yeah, yeah. Just turn it inside out.

Ant Haynes (25:41):

Absolutely. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (25:42):

So, so if you go out, you just get wet.

Ant Haynes (25:44):

Yeah, big time. And like, so t t eight and T 10, like, uh, you go home work’s canceled, you don’t go to work. Ferry’s closed down, transport closes down. Um, I think I’ve only, I must’ve only lived through maybe three T tens. Three or four T tens.

Sevan Matossian (25:59):

Does someone die in t tens always. Like there’s someone goes outside and get Yeah, always. Yeah. A couple people get swept away.

Ant Haynes (26:05):

Yeah. And like generally speaking, these typhoons, they’ll generally, um, develop and like get real powerful around the Philippines and then it comes and hits Hong Kong afterwards. But Hong Kong’s like, it’s a built up city. Like it doesn’t re, although it’s on like the coast, on the peninsula, it doesn’t really get affected. Whereas like you can imagine it hitting, you know, somewhere like the Philippines where there’s like tin roofs and stuff like that. Like it just decimate those countries and it’s crazy like the effect that it has on those places. Uh, Hong Kong, we’re very lucky that it’s, um, definitely a bit more built up. The, uh, infrastructure’s a bit more solid. Um, so, you know, it’s just a pretty windy, rainy week for most of it. Um, trees and stuff get blown down. Some trees get uprooted, but generally speaking, you know, touch wood, uh, we don’t see too many casualties in Hong Kong, but you know, across Asia they can be absolutely devastating.

Sevan Matossian (26:58):

That’s a great line. Touch wood. Uh, a, a sloppy schlop. Weather’s looking pretty nice for next week. Oh good. Hey, hey. Did you see any smoke in the air? There was some concern a couple weeks ago ’cause Oh yeah, you did see smoke in the air in Madison. So

Ant Haynes (27:13):

Yeah, when we landed here, so we landed early Monday morning, like 1:00 AM in the morning. So on Monday when we got up it was real hazy, like, uh, couldn’t see. There was no blue in the sky. Couldn’t really see. We went for like a bike ride around Lake Manna. Could barely see the other side of it. It was like quite bad. Uh,

Sevan Matossian (27:33):

Last, oh, I saw your vlog by the way. Yeah. And it was white over the entire lake by the way. Your vlog is cool. Good job, dude. Thank

Ant Haynes (27:39):

You. I don’t, I don’t really know what I’m doing to be honest. I just thought I’d put some stuff up if I

Sevan Matossian (27:43):

Could. Oh, it’s great. Thank you. And I’m glad you won the bike ride against Lee. You really put yourself on the line there.

Ant Haynes (27:49):

Fucking crushed it.

Sevan Matossian (27:50):

You did crush. I like it how she’s like wanting a head start. You’re like, no

Ant Haynes (27:54):

<laugh>. Yeah. No. Fuck that. You don’t lose

Sevan Matossian (27:57):

<laugh>. Hey, she looks pretty damn fit, dude.

Ant Haynes (28:00):

It’s crazy. I always say the same thing like you, um,

Sevan Matossian (28:04):

What a specimen

Ant Haynes (28:05):

55 category and she stands out there on the floor versus the other nine ladies. And this is taking nothing away from the other nine ladies who are out there as well, but like Right. She’s looks like fucking gladiator out there.

Sevan Matossian (28:16):

She does look like a gladiator. What is she, what, what is she, she’s not your Asian?

Ant Haynes (28:20):

Uh, she is not, no, she’s uh, she’s English. She’s fully English, but she’s been based out in Hong Kong for a good while now. How many years in Hong Kong? 16. 16 years in Hong Kong.

Sevan Matossian (28:30):


Ant Haynes (28:31):

Yeah. So she’s represented in the UK there.

Sevan Matossian (28:33):

I guess a lot of people do that. They come there and they just don’t leave.

Ant Haynes (28:36):

Yeah, a lot of people do. Like my, my dad being one of them. Um, but a lot of people also do the other side of it, which, um, you know, Hong Kong’s a super transient city. Especially if you are in the, you know, the main reason that westerns will come over to Hong Kong is generally for finance, some sort of financial job. Uh, and they’ll generally move between like New York, London, Hong Kong, Tokyo, and they’ll just keep kind of doing that loop. So it’ll be like anywhere between one to 10 years, move one to 10 years, move one to 10 years move and they just keep moving around like that. So it can be quite sad, you know, you build up, uh, relationships with people and uh, you, you develop some good connections and then it kind of just, it’s, it’s normal. You almost expect it to happen, which is, it sucks sometimes, but yeah. It’s just part of life in Hong Kong.

Sevan Matossian (29:22):

Uh, Jake Chapman ant looks like a vampire from Buffy. I could see. Yeah, he got like a tan. He’s a tan vampire. He would need to really whiten up. I’m

Ant Haynes (29:30):

There you go. I haven’t heard that for a while.

Sevan Matossian (29:32):

You did used to get that?

Ant Haynes (29:34):

Yeah, we used that. Sarah. Michelle Gil, I

Sevan Matossian (29:35):

Remember. Oh yeah, that, oh yeah, that show. Wow. Oh, you are, you are old 34. My goodness. <laugh>. Um, and what happened? How, how did, how did you end up here? What a typical story. Yeah. They didn’t let the Iranian guy in. Yeah, so, uh, racist. Racist. I didn’t say poor Iranian guy. That guy’s close to I, he might even be Armenian. I feel horrible for him. Yeah, he um,

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