#993 – We Always Knew | Roberts and Hiller

Sevan Matossian (00:01):

Bam. Hey, you think, hi Gary.

Gary Roberts (00:07):


Sevan Matossian (00:08):

You think it would be inappropriate to, let’s say you die and you go to heaven and you’re standing there with God and he’s like, hi, how are you? And he’s just drinking a LaCroix and you’re like, Hey, I got two questions. Go ahead, Savon. Go ahead. Is that true that Joseph did not ejaculate and marry you? Can you tell me how that happened? How would that be inappropriate? Would that be inappropriate to ask God that?

Andrew Hiller (00:45):

No, I

Gary Roberts (00:45):

Don’t think so. Am I in on this question?

Sevan Matossian (00:48):

Yeah, I just don’t get, I’m looking at the comments. I interviewed this guy who is in direct communication with God. His name is Chris Blood, so do UFOs and God coexist and he sees the angels and shit in his house and all of this stuff and I was like, so if you’re watching porn, is it kind of weird knowing that they’re in your house watching you and he’s like, I don’t watch porn. I go, okay, how about when you and your wife are having sex? He’s like, yeah, and people are acting like those are bad questions to ask or they’re immature. I’m like, dude, you know that your dad dropped a load of goo in your mom and made you Now for some reason it’s taboo to talk about God made me with a dick and you with a vagina and we can’t ask how Jesus did he or did he not? Please tell me.

Gary Roberts (01:40):

Can I say something?

Sevan Matossian (01:42):

Yeah, please. I

Gary Roberts (01:42):

Swear to God this is the truth. I was going to come on here and ask if you believe in God. Completely unrelated. I wanted to make a segue to beget and I can’t believe you’re talking about God. That’s so weird,

Sevan Matossian (01:59):

Man. Maybe. Oh look. Oh, I brought Hiller on, but I don’t have to. Hiller can bring himself on. Sorry Andrew,

Andrew Hiller (02:05):

You want me out?

Sevan Matossian (02:06):

Well see. Does that mean there is a God? Is that a sign from God? I

Gary Roberts (02:11):

Wanted to know if you believed in divine intervention or some, it’s crazy that you started this show off with God because I was going to kind of ask about that because I feel like in a religious experience is happening for me, but this whole, it’s weird. It’s just weird.

Sevan Matossian (02:32):

I just can’t believe You think it would be uncool to be like, if I saw Jesus, I’d be like, Hey dude. What kind of practical jokes did you play when you were a kid when you were 17? I really enjoyed, my friend lived in this dorm and the rooftop was 17 floors and I really enjoyed peeing from the rooftop and seeing how long it took to pee to hit the ground. I just thought that was so cool. Or throwing paper airplanes when I was a little kid and my dad had a friend who lived on the 50th story at Penthouse in New York and would go there and I would take a stack of paper and just throw paper airplanes off. You don’t think Jesus did that stuff

Gary Roberts (03:08):

Maybe in his teen years?

Sevan Matossian (03:10):

Yeah. Do you think Jesus is like, I don’t litter, I don’t waste paper global. That’s why there’s a gap in the Bible. It’s crazy. You’re so open to this omniscient being and yet there’s limits to what you can and can’t talk about. Let me tell you something. If you’re one of those people you have absolutely no idea what God is, you have any limits. If you’re offended, if you’re triggered by any word, then you are completely tarded. It doesn’t work like that.

Gary Roberts (03:45):

Avon, do you wake up in the morning? I can’t catch all your shows because I have

Sevan Matossian (03:49):

Babies stiff,

Gary Roberts (03:50):

But do you wake up in the morning saying, how can I offend some portion of

Sevan Matossian (03:55):

Humanity? No. No, but what I do, you know, I do do to make myself feel manly. I take this part of my palm right here and I kind of push on my penis down and away from me kind of at just like to test the rigidity of it. I don’t disrespect it. I act like it’s, you know what I mean? It’s a piece of rebar. It just sits here like this.

Gary Roberts (04:20):

I think if you’re a boy, you’ve been there, done

Sevan Matossian (04:23):

That. Yeah. I just do it just to make myself feel massive. Just like sometimes I just grab my dick with two hands just because, you know what I mean? Just like Yeah. Yeah. I usually grab it at the same time just like, Hey, yeah, it’s too, don’t disrespect me. No, not like that. That is no, or like this. You mean like this? A crab. Oh, welcome everyone. Rambler. Hi, how are you Trish? Hello, Philip Kelly. See you tomorrow. Probably two hands in your mouth. Thank you. Trish Stevon has had a spicy mark. Not yet. I am not yet, but close. Where are we? There was someone, oh, Barry Cocker. My dick is a rebar. I got agitated. I was reading YouTube comments, so whenever I read YouTube comments, I seem drunk. You were just doing it. Yeah, I was reading the Chris Bloods. Our alien show is huge. Every day it puts on 50 more views and now it’s up to 16,000 views or something from four months ago. But the people are disgusted. How dare you ask this godly man about porn who you think it would be inappropriate if I asked the Pope if he masturbates. I think it’s a totally fair question.


Why? I think the answer would be you think that there’s anything wrong with that, even tiny bit.

Gary Roberts (05:49):

I think you would have to, if you’ve sworn off women, you have to take care of it. I mean there’s no way,

Sevan Matossian (06:00):

Let me say this, so Hillary made a comment to Hunter McIntyre or something on Instagram or something. He said something like, there was a picture from 2011 of Hunter and Hillary made a joke that said something like, I saw it said, are you juiced or something? Natty or not? And it looked like Hunter McIntyre. I got to get Hunter on and ask him. Hunter got offended. It’s like, dude, dude, you are the most outspoken person about steroids when you’re the most outspoken person about steroids, you should be able to handle any steroid talk at all, accusations, anything. You should understand them because you’ve accused so many people of being on them. And it’s the same thing with really, you don’t think a godly man should be able to handle any fucking question? Yeah. Hey, look, there it is omnipotent. Thank you, Jeffrey. The academic has spoken, omnipotent, having unlimited power able to do anything and field any questions?

Andrew Hiller (06:55):

That’s the pope.

Sevan Matossian (06:58):


Andrew Hiller (06:59):

I don’t think that describes him.

Gary Roberts (07:01):

Is your audience Sistas? That’s what you call him.

Sevan Matossian (07:05):

I blocked that out. I don’t want to go into my head. Strike that comment from the record.

Gary Roberts (07:11):

No, I just saw it down there. A sistas.

Sevan Matossian (07:15):

Yeah, careful. Don’t say it three times.

Gary Roberts (07:18):


Sevan Matossian (07:19):

Oh shit. Now you did it.

Gary Roberts (07:21):

I mean it’s kind of catchy. Is that

Sevan Matossian (07:26):

That is the flock? Yes.

Gary Roberts (07:29):

Yeah. Nice. Can I be a part of it?

Sevan Matossian (07:32):

I don’t think so. I’ve heard it’s pretty hard. It’s not hard. Hiller,

Andrew Hiller (07:37):


Sevan Matossian (07:37):

Thought you

Andrew Hiller (07:38):

Classify as one. Every other thing you can classify

Sevan Matossian (07:40):

As. No, I think there’s some sort of hazing process. I’ve heard that it’s a definitely yes, we are here.

Gary Roberts (07:48):

I cannot be a seven on ECI because I missed your Tyson bet broadcast and I’m so angry. I can’t believe I missed it. Live like Jesus.

Sevan Matossian (07:58):

Are you still on T R t?

Gary Roberts (08:02):

You really want to talk about that?

Sevan Matossian (08:03):

Well, you should see Hiller’s body if you would’ve done t r t for as long as Hiller’s only been doing it. Have you been doing it six months? Hiller, it’s

Gary Roberts (08:11):

California hormone a year. Is California hormone

Andrew Hiller (08:14):

Still a sponsor? Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (08:16):


Andrew Hiller (08:19):

What happened? What’s going on? You don’t want to talk about it?

Gary Roberts (08:22):

No. I’ve been off since December and really the biggest recall back was a huge sex drive. I almost broke up my marriage. Yeah,

Andrew Hiller (08:35):

Yeah. Mine’s over here bedridden because of my sex drive.

Sevan Matossian (08:39):

You fucked her into oblivion.

Gary Roberts (08:42):

I mean it really caused, I was thinking, I was like, damn, I feel like a teenager again. So if you need, long story short, it’s all excuses. I had suffered some injuries coinciding the fact that my two babies were, they got to the age, I took them to the gym and they were just fighting over everything. Coaches look at me like, dude, you can’t bring those babies to the gym until they’re, I mean, they’re killing us. Then I go to the doctor Savon. This happened right after I called you right after I called you. I go to the doctor to do a 50 year checkup and they’re like, oh, you have high blood pressure. I was like, what? How in the world could I have high blood pressure? And so I had just told you I was going to start the t r t and then the doctor was like, I really would like to figure out what’s going on with your blood pressure before we go to that next level. And then the summer is a hundred degrees outside. My babies drama with the wife I mentioned. I might go back on t r t. She says I’m going to text seven. I hate that guy.


A lot of drama. Anyways,

Sevan Matossian (10:03):

I like it. It’s good for the show. Thank you for sharing.

Gary Roberts (10:07):

I’ve been to the gym very sporadically. They’re not happy with me over there. Anyways, good news is my knee. I can finally go. Are they

Sevan Matossian (10:21):

Not happy with you because you were on T R T. Can you blame that on t r t too? Were you bending bars and shit or no? No,

Gary Roberts (10:27):

No, no.

Andrew Hiller (10:28):

What are they mad about?

Gary Roberts (10:30):

Just like you just get in the side. My coach, Travis Mead, he is one of those guys that does not accept any excuses. He doesn’t care what is happening. If you

Andrew Hiller (10:45):

Guy did all those hero workouts,

Gary Roberts (10:46):

Yeah, if my leg is torn off and blood was spewing out and I’d be going to the hospital, he really would say, why aren’t you hitting the gym first? It’s good. It’s good, but I don’t know the days I wanted. I haven’t been to the gym in two weeks. And I went and then I went two days in a row and then the next two days were heat waves and I was like, I can’t go into that gym and 110 degrees. It’s crazy.

Sevan Matossian (11:23):

Gary, one second. I apologize. Hiller is Rambler. Are you from 1986? Petroleum jelly? No one uses petroleum jelly for anything anymore. Alexis Kowalski. My farmer’s tan is peeling. Should I use petroleum jelly? Go ahead, Hiller.

Andrew Hiller (11:41):

Hey, petroleum jelly on a peeling farmer’s tan. Yes or no? What would you use? Aloe. He says aloe.

Sevan Matossian (11:50):

Use that petroleum jelly on your anus. What kind of moisturizer?

Gary Roberts (11:56):


Andrew Hiller (11:57):

Vanity cream moisturizer.

Sevan Matossian (11:59):

Ask her what you should use petroleum jelly for.

Andrew Hiller (12:01):

What should you use petroleum jelly for? Nothing.

Sevan Matossian (12:04):

Thank you.

Gary Roberts (12:06):

And the comments they’re saying, my excuses are excuse. Yes, it’s true. It’s

Sevan Matossian (12:11):

Been like I don’t agree with those people. I don’t think you’re being a pussy. I don’t agree with those people.

Gary Roberts (12:15):

Six weeks ago they prescribed some blood pressure medication. I haven’t taken one pill. It is mind boggling that I have. So here’s the thing, I haven’t got footage. I asked her can I record this? And I even said to my doctor, and I love her to death, but I even said, well, if I lock up my nutrition and get back consistently at the gym, will that have a positive impact? And she said basically, no, if you have high blood pressure, you’re going to have to take medication regardless. And I was like,

Sevan Matossian (12:53):


Andrew Hiller (12:54):

You got her saying that on camera and she agreed to it?

Gary Roberts (12:57):

I think so. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Awesome. She straight upset, said It won’t make a difference. And I was like, it can’t be true.

Sevan Matossian (13:07):


Gary Roberts (13:07):

Can’t be true.

Sevan Matossian (13:09):

Hey, it’s a whole variety of things too. You should check your blood pressure again too. People’s blood pressure varies a ton, dude, a ton. I was sitting in the waiting room for 30 minutes and I stood up and I went right and within 15 seconds they had the blood pressure thing on me testing my blood pressure and then they took it and I can’t remember what they said it was good. And I said, Hey, can you take it again? And it was significantly lower. They’re like, oh wow. I’m like, dude, I was just sitting for 30 minutes. You had me stand up, come in here and then sit me down again. I felt my whole shit change.

Andrew Hiller (13:43):

Do you remember what it was, Gary? Your blood pressure?

Gary Roberts (13:46):

Yeah, I put it in texts. Where’s my

Sevan Matossian (13:50):


Gary Roberts (13:51):

Coat syndrome? Someone in the text said, did you ever take Hunter up on his invite to Manc camp? No, I haven’t been able to travel these babies. Man, that’s hard work with a one and a half year old and a three-year-old. They are just crazy right now. One, okay, Seon, can I talk about Tyson bet?

Sevan Matossian (14:17):

Yeah, of course.

Gary Roberts (14:19):

Yeah. Let me know

Sevan Matossian (14:20):

You want to play, you want to talk a little bit and then we’ll play a little clip and then talk a little bit more and then we’ll play another little clip.


Lemme set the stage real quick. Tyson Bett was on the show a couple days ago. He is the fourth string quarterback for the Chicago Bears, but he’s also the NCAA’s all time touchdown pass record holder of any football player who ever existed. But they still didn’t think he was going to make it to the pros because he’s a division two quarterback. But his dad has always believed in him and Tyson has always believed in himself. And Gary Roberts has known Tyson since before he was born when he was just a sperm in Travis’s sack and that Gary Roberts is a filmmaker, videographer, documentarian, and arm wrestling expert, of which Travis was one of the greatest who ever to arm wrestle ever be in the game. And so Gary has a ton of footage of Travis, of his family throughout the years. And today Gary called me or a couple days ago and was like, holy shit dude, this is crazy. What’s happening to Tyson Gross or what Tyson’s done for himself would be the more appropriate verbiage. Wordage

Gary Roberts (15:28):

My blood pressure one time, 1 57 over one 13 and 1 47 over 94. 1 66 over 1 10, 1 66 over 1 25, 1 59 over 99. Do you

Sevan Matossian (15:44):

Have any 60 nines? Do you have any 60 nines? No. They have a four string. No they don’t. That’s my point. They don’t have a four string. Hey

Andrew Hiller (15:51):

Gary, were you on T r T at that time?

Gary Roberts (15:54):

No. Any of those? No. Sometimes

Andrew Hiller (15:57):

They’ll tell you to donate blood.

Gary Roberts (15:59):

Yeah. Yeah. I did donate blood when I was on t r t. They said, they said I was close to a high blood pressure, but they didn’t say hi until I went two months. I’d been off for two months when they told me that it was something I need to do. Can I do a shout out to Athena Perez? She was in your comments

Sevan Matossian (16:21):


Gary Roberts (16:22):

Weirdly, I have a missed call from her yesterday and I haven’t fallen back. So Athena, if you were trying to call me, hit me again. I’m sorry I missed you always

Sevan Matossian (16:35):

Love to see, she wants to get your leftover t r T that you didn’t use.

Gary Roberts (16:39):

So Seon, I feel like this Tyson thing, it’s like I’m having a religious experience.

Sevan Matossian (16:49):

Tell me, tell me.

Gary Roberts (16:52):

So going through the footage knowing,

Sevan Matossian (16:54):

Oh shit, did you take the vaccine, Gary?

Gary Roberts (16:58):

If I wanted to stay married, I did.

Sevan Matossian (17:01):

Oh shit. That’s why you have high blood pressure. You got to clot somewhere. I’m just making that up. I’m making that up. Don’t listen to me. I’m making that up. Are you backpedaling? I didn’t know you. So

Gary Roberts (17:17):

Yo Athena pre yo I Yeah, you go along to get along. I took the

Sevan Matossian (17:26):

Just I understand.

Gary Roberts (17:29):

So Sevan, you, Travis, and myself, just this historical triangle of us knowing each other and being involved, intertwined in each other’s lives and it’s really weird. You know the clip that you were going to play?

Sevan Matossian (17:48):


Gary Roberts (17:48):

The that I was using the Sony PD one 50. You are the reason I have that camera because the Dave, I told you

Sevan Matossian (18:00):

To buy it or I gave it to you.

Gary Roberts (18:01):

No, no. When you went to visit Dave Devoto for your early days of investigating polling John, he saw what camera you had and it just happened to coincide with the timing that I met Dave Devoto and he literally bought that camera for me so I could start at that time. Arm wrestling tv.

Sevan Matossian (18:22):


Gary Roberts (18:23):

Pre arm tv.

Sevan Matossian (18:24):

Wow. That was the first real documentarian camera that any company had ever made. The Sony PD one 50 or the VX 1000. Yeah. This is a great camera. So

Gary Roberts (18:33):

You meeting Travis, Travis meeting me and me meeting you all happens within the same window.

Sevan Matossian (18:42):

Yeah, yeah.

Gary Roberts (18:45):

It’s really weird. And here’s what I’ve been telling everyone just to set the stage, Travis bein very braggadocio. He’s the best at everything. And because he’s the best at everything you learn sometimes you tune him out. I’ve known him now 20 years, I’ve known you 20 years. You’ve known Travis 20 years when he tells you if you think I’m the best at everything, wait till you see my children. My children are going to be even better than me. And I mean, you take what Travis says with a grain of salt sometimes because obviously you can’t be the best at everything. So when he used to tell us my children are beasts, it’s like, okay. And every couple of years, like this video you showed, he told me he broke Peewee Peewee league, better record than Peyton Manning. Dan Marino. It’s like

Sevan Matossian (19:48):

Tom Brady.

Gary Roberts (19:49):

He was hyping his children up at seven years old. And you think,

Sevan Matossian (19:54):

Okay, hold that thought. Hold that thought. Gary, Caleb, will you play like 60 to 90 seconds of this? Let’s check this out. Here we go. How long ago was this, Gary? 10 years ago.

Gary Roberts (20:06):

Well, he was seven, he’s 20 something now. Oh,

Sevan Matossian (20:09):

So 15 years ago. Okay, 15 years ago. Tyson, I think this is at a Golds Gym in West Virginia. Here we go.

Speaker 6 (20:20):

8,010 for two years. Two years. And we just repeat this a couple hundred times once a week. So he usually goes to about 220 sets of 10. He’s the best seven year old in North America. If you got a seven year old, I’m willing to go to eight year old. If you have an eight year old that can beat this guy right here, bring him to Charlestown, he’ll take you on promise. Touchdown passes this year in the history of the league, I’ve coached for four years in the history of the league, there’ve been one touchdown thrown and he threw it last year as a six year old with very limited action this year as a seven year old peewee star along with two amazing, along with two amazing receivers and a good tight end. We threw 16 touchdown passes in the peewee football. It’ll never be broke. It’s better than Dan Marinos and Peyton Mannings and Tom Brady’s record times a hundred because you can’t throw in the league. We just got very lucky with the depth of the league. Okay,

Sevan Matossian (21:22):

So at seven years old, at six years old, he threw his first touchdown pass. At seven years old he threw 16. Travis is already like, he’s better than Dan Marino or Tom Brady or man,

Gary Roberts (21:36):

I mean, it’s crazy dude. And the thing is, I went back when Tyson was in high school and he is like, yeah, he’s starting quarterback, he’s awesome, still killing it. I didn’t invest too much energy into thinking this was real. And then a couple,

Sevan Matossian (21:54):

When he told me Gary, when he told me that Tyson was the best high school football quarterback in the country, high school quarterback in the country, I looked it up on the internet and he was right. He was the best high school quarterback in the United States, but it was like a tie between 200 guys, you know what I mean? They had a list of the top 200 best quarterbacks and it was basically just there’s so many fucking high schools that you really couldn’t say who was the best. It was just a smattering of dudes at the top.

Gary Roberts (22:24):

So I have a story I asked Travis today because Casey wasn’t answering the phone,

Sevan Matossian (22:31):

Meaning you called his wife first and then called him. Yeah. Is

Gary Roberts (22:33):

That what you Yeah, because I have a personal story and I really, I just want to share it because you are the guy again, I was talking about the triangle of our three of our relationships.

Sevan Matossian (22:46):

Do you call Travis’s wife often?

Gary Roberts (22:48):

No, I had never, today was the first time just because I kind of wanted permission to talk about this story.


So I would say you probably beat me out with phone calls to Travis through the arm wrestling years. You probably talked to Travis for hours about arm wrestling. I would like to think I was number two on the list of guys who spent hours talking about how to dream up, blown up arm wrestling. And then of course we know you went off into the CrossFit world and what did you do? You opened up and brought Travis in, then you opened up and you brought me on board with CrossFit. I know similarly that we thought, oh, we didn’t hit it big with CrossFit arm wrestling, but CrossFit is going to blow up, which of course we knew it did blow up, but personally employee wise, Travis and I both thought we were on the board too. Anyways, Travis got let go from CrossFit, right? Well, it wasn’t very long after I went to an arm wrestling tournament on the east coast and when I go to an arm wrestling tournament on the east coast, who do I call?


Travis bein. He always opens up a door, go hang out with his family, break bread and all that. Well, it was after the tournament and I think Casey and I, we went to a gas station and I was just like, Hey, how are you? And she broke down crying and she was like, Gary, I wish I could. I’m paraphrasing, it’s been many years, but she’s like, I wish I could describe to you what it’s like to be a wife of an arm wrestler of almost always thinking you’ve hit it. Like, oh, this one’s going to work, this plan’s going to work out, this plan’s going to work out. And then always someone pulls the rug out. You were almost there. And then we spoke about CrossFit, how we thought CrossFit was, we always thought it was arm wrestling, but then we’re like, oh, it is going to bring glory.

Sevan Matossian (25:09):

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Gary Roberts (25:11):

Anyways, to make a long story short, when

Sevan Matossian (25:13):

Too late, too late,

Gary Roberts (25:14):

I went back, I went back, I think it was the beginning of Tyson’s junior year and I caught a game and hung out with the family and Travis is like, dude, he’s right there. I’m like, fuck, you got to be kidding me. Serious. I always think about what does it take to achieve Back when Rich Froning and then Matt Frazier was doing what they were doing, I was asked, what does it take to reach a level of that success and then maintain when all this Tyson stuff, I’m like, what did it take from the time you were a kid to always be the best or always be number one and make it to the next level? So now here he is. I’m watching the preseason first touchdown. All I can think about is Casey, it makes me want to cry. I did tear up, in fact when I was watching the presser, but thinking about the first, we thought it was arm wrestling and then CrossFit. Now here your son has quietly just been the best quarterback, peewee, whatever the

Sevan Matossian (26:28):

Next dude and dude, it could have, what’s crazy is it could have been over. What do


You mean it could still be over? Meaning he achieved so much in college and yet that game still could have been his last game ever. Why? Because he’s division two and because he still to, he had to go to the combine and he had to do the senior bowl. And I have one question. There’s still, how much more does this fucking kid have to prove if he’s the best ever? How come division in division two, division two in the first place, if he was the best in high school, I’m going to paraphrase, but because he wanted to be close to home and because the college was free and he wasn’t getting the offers that were, I think maybe he did get some offers for some big schools, but it was like to sit on the bench and shit and so he made the decision. Family’s really important to ’em.

Gary Roberts (27:21):

Yeah, I don’t remember the details. I just know at home start, you’re good package not as awesome and no guarantees to start and it’s like, yeah, I see.

Sevan Matossian (27:31):

Lemme say a couple more things too Hiller about this, and I don’t know a lot about football, but usually if you do get an amazing player like that, even with regardless of what division they’re in and people don’t believe that they’re that good, there’s usually some sort of physical characteristics that are short. They’re too small in stature. They don’t weigh enough, they’re too slow. Their hands too small. They can only see out of one eye. They got something, they’re fucking Jews and they can’t play football on Sundays or whatever fucking religion that is. There’s usually something that’s like, don’t ruin my story. I never considered that. There’s something, there was this movie Gallipoli where this guy, a Jew couldn’t fight war on one of the days. It was kind of cool. That sounds awesome. I actually think it’s Saturday though. But anyway, there’s usually something of these elite guys, there’s a reason they can’t, and this one, there was no reason on paper he can’t. It’s just this thing that says division two, but there’s no actual reason. You look at him and you see the way he plays and you see his numbers and his size and his ability to read the field and all of these attributes that makes he’s got them all. And so every week we’re still watching this fucking thing unfold in slow motion and it’s not going to be a train wreck, it’s going to be like an ascension. We’re going to see the, Gary says it’s like, wow.

Gary Roberts (28:47):


Sevan Matossian (28:47):

He’s, thank

Gary Roberts (28:47):

You. I’m not sure if this is a conspiracy theory, but is there

Sevan Matossian (28:51):

Something you think he’s an alien? You think he’s an alien?

Gary Roberts (28:54):

No. Do the scouts, lizard people, are the scouts in the schools paid by the N F L to keep the feeder system with the elite schools? I almost feel like they don’t want that window to open. Like, oh, once we start opening the window, then we have to deal with thousands of more schools and

Sevan Matossian (29:13):

I don’t know, I think they just want the best dudes. I’ll tell you what, the coach, I think it was the offensive, I think it the offensive coordinator. Thank you, Caleb, who was the coach for the senior bowl. Did Caleb actually say that or was that my brain? Inside my brain, my inside voice sounds like Caleb. Caleb, did you actually talk? I heard it too. I said that, oh, he thought maybe my thoughts sound like Caleb and the head coach of the Senior Bowl where he played was the offensive coordinator for the Chicago Bears. And he gets, he’s like, oh my God, we’re going to get this guy. We’re not even going to have to use a draft pick. I’m going to fuck all the other teams. You know how excited he is and it’s paying off. He probably told there were probably 10 guys there at Chicago. We’re like, are you crazy? He’s D two and now he’s.

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