#990 – Teaching Discernment | Live Call In

Sevan Matossian (00:00):

This show’s all about great timing. Bam. We’re live. Good morning. Too loud. I got a new mic. Can you hear me okay?

Caleb Beaver (00:09):

Yeah, I can hear you good. This is, there is an echo though.

Sevan Matossian (00:13):

Oh, there was an echo yesterday too. Oh shit. You know why, sorry. Sorry. I don’t have my headphones on.

Caleb Beaver (00:21):


Sevan Matossian (00:22):


Caleb Beaver (00:24):

That’s better. I think much better. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, that’s good.

Sevan Matossian (00:26):

Hey, when I play clips, I don’t hear ’em through my headphone. That’s why I always pull off an earpiece and I listen through the speaker, the computer. Do we always get an echo when I do that? You know, like good show. I’ll pull up an Instagram clip and you don’t hear. Okay.

Caleb Beaver (00:41):


Sevan Matossian (00:42):

Yeah, so I went to IB H website or whatever and or picked a podcast microphones and this was the best one or the most expensive one. The sure one

Caleb Beaver (00:56):

Nice. Looks cool.

Sevan Matossian (00:59):

It’s significantly smaller than the road. This is, my guests are going to get this.

Caleb Beaver (01:05):

Oh wow. Yeah, that’s way smaller. I like the new one. That’s

Sevan Matossian (01:10):

Good. Yeah. Thanks. I don’t think I need to put this on it either. It came with this. I don’t need this.

Caleb Beaver (01:17):

Oh, that one’s massive.

Sevan Matossian (01:19):


Caleb Beaver (01:21):

What difference does it make

Sevan Matossian (01:23):

If you’re in a windy situation? You’d use this.

Caleb Beaver (01:26):

Yeah. When you’re doing shows outside and stuff, right?

Sevan Matossian (01:28):

Yeah. If we were like the Mayhem Empire, I saw a comment in YouTube I wanted to address. Oh, someone said, Hey, I think it’s from Tom Gearan.


Yesterday I was talking about doing muscle up and pull-ups and stuff and about my bicep and peptides and Philip Kelly suggested, Hey, you should consider doing some banded pull-ups or stuff like that. I think he meant it and then Tom was like, Hey, why would you do that if you already have, oh, you see it? Why would you do banded pull-ups when you can do strict muscle-ups, if anything, do negative, strict pull-ups. So I used to do a lot of negative stuff just even a few months ago, and that does put a ton of stress on whatever muscle group I’m using. My lats, my bicep, whatever, which I like. That’s why I did them. But I think what Philip Kelly was saying is just to work smaller muscles, just get some really easy bands and then work some. I was just picturing it, working some angles that are kind of out of the traditional path. So maybe just even hang the bands and just pull slowly, basically use it like a lap pull down machine. That’s how I was thinking. Make it easy, slow, do the pull downs out here, out here, out here. Just to work all the fine muscles. Just help build strength in that hole in all those different planes, I guess. I dunno if there’s any truth to it. It just sounds logically like it makes sense.

Caleb Beaver (02:57):

Seems legit. Thank you. Constantly.

Sevan Matossian (02:59):

Thank you Rambler. Hey, and do it. Oh, I like that red. Did you just switch that?

Caleb Beaver (03:05):


Sevan Matossian (03:05):

Oh, well, I like it. A rambler you mean? Yes, of course I did. Rambler. Hey, what’s up dude? Marissa Hanno Osa. Osa Osa is the first H silent in the J

Caleb Beaver (03:23):


Sevan Matossian (03:24):

Osa good. I really prefer profile pictures. It’s entertainment for me, just so you know. Good morning. Beautiful people. Good morning, dusty.

Caleb Beaver (03:38):

That’s a good profile picture.

Sevan Matossian (03:40):

It is. God Rambler’s. Got a lot of comments right here early on. Yo. Grab your coffee. Micah. Foreigner. I could be wrong, but discernment I believe is an old wooden ship used in the Civil War.

Caleb Beaver (03:53):

Isn’t that a line from a movie or something?

Sevan Matossian (03:56):

I’m going to say something really stupid. There were ships in the Civil War

Caleb Beaver (04:03):

Technically, I guess. I don’t know

Sevan Matossian (04:05):

Why. Fergie show. Good morning, Mrs. Slop. Heidi. Heidi, Heidi, Heidi. I was playing back, Heidi. If I did have any regrets about the games, which I don’t, but if I did, it would be not hanging with you. That would be at the top, but I was also playing back when we met and I got to see you in the stands. That was really cool. Dick Butter. Hey guys. Jeffrey Birchfield. Good morning. Isn’t that weird? I just know you guys from the internet. I saw you guys, a lot of you at the games and then now I’m walking around in my yard with pruning chairs being like, man, that would’ve been cool to hang with. Heidi Moore, you’re living rent free in my head. But I like it. I’ve always liked people living in my head. Rent free. Jay Ruffner. Seon. Have you pulled out the USADA testing pool much like Hill pulled out? No. No, but I’m glad you’re saying that. No. Ow Fuck. I hurt my arm.

Caleb Beaver (05:14):

No way.

Sevan Matossian (05:15):

Yeah, that hurt. I didn’t like that. I did leg lifts yesterday. If I’m looking swollen. I did leg lifts yesterday and I did curls and I did strict shoulder press.

Caleb Beaver (05:26):

What do you mean by leg lifts?

Sevan Matossian (05:28):

I lay on my back and I hold a D ball over my head and I lift my legs up so that they’re perpendicular to the ground and then I lower my heels till they almost touch the ground and then I go back up and I do 12 or 13 on the minute for 10 minutes until my pupa sore in that spot between your belly button and your cock cock. And I should do those more. I should do those. And I do toes to and knees to elbows, but I do crazy small reps like sets of three and six on the minute for 10 minutes I watch TV while I’m doing it. I prep, I’m prepping. God, I watched so many fucking podcasts yesterday. What’d you watch tv. I watch all the U F C stuff for tonight’s fight. I watched Pedro’s shit, which was really good. Who else did I watch yesterday? There was someone I don’t traditionally watch. Who did I watch yesterday? There was someone not talking elite fitness, not Scott Schweitzer,

Caleb Beaver (06:39):

A redheaded musician. I

Sevan Matossian (06:42):

Watched him, but I didn’t see him on a podcast. Has he done a podcast yet?

Caleb Beaver (06:46):


Sevan Matossian (06:46):

Don’t know. Oh, I invited him on this one.

Caleb Beaver (06:49):

That’d be wild.

Sevan Matossian (06:51):

Shit. Who? Anyway, so when I do that, that’s when I try to do some bodybuilding shit, right? Strict pull up, strict muscle ups, leg lifts, curls. When I mean curls, I tell myself I’m doing cleans, but I’m really doing curls.

Caleb Beaver (07:07):

You watched John Campbell.

Sevan Matossian (07:10):

Oh, I did. How did you know that

Caleb Beaver (07:13):

We have the same YouTube account?

Sevan Matossian (07:14):

Oh no. Shit. I watched. Oh, so yesterday. So another thing is I’ve been staying up till 1230, which is way too late. I get up at six and I watched a bunch of Campbell yesterday and I watched the interview with Vivek Ramas Swami and

Caleb Beaver (07:32):

Tucker Carlson

Sevan Matossian (07:33):

Carlson. Holy shit. It was good. Let me, I didn’t send you the notes, did I?

Caleb Beaver (07:38):


Sevan Matossian (07:39):

Here we go. Sorry. I’m the most ill prepared ever for a show today.

Caleb Beaver (07:47):

It’s all good.

Sevan Matossian (07:50):

Hey, I’m a huge proponent of jumping, even though I could do pull-ups for my jam, I’m a huge proponent of jumping pull-ups too. I probably don’t do enough, but I think that there’s huge value in those for everyone. You

Caleb Beaver (08:00):

Like those?

Sevan Matossian (08:01):

I just think as long as you don’t fucking hit your head on the bar on the way up. I think metabolically, they’re fucking gnarly.

Caleb Beaver (08:06):

My dad says the same thing about them. He does ’em for jumping pullups. Yeah, he does ’em pretty regularly. And he said he likes them a lot.

Sevan Matossian (08:13):

Oh, they’re crazy. They’re crazy. Just if you do a fucking set of 25 and run 200 meters, 10 rounds, you will not, might give yourself fucking rhabdo. Even if you can do 20 strict pull-ups,

Caleb Beaver (08:26):

It’s a different stimulus.

Sevan Matossian (08:27):

Yeah, totally. Well said. Rent money for your head. Well, thank you. Rent money for your head

Caleb Beaver (08:34):

Rent. Money for her to live in your head

Sevan Matossian (08:36):

Rent. Yeah, but I just like the word

Caleb Beaver (08:38):


Sevan Matossian (08:40):

Head. Isn’t that a great word?

Caleb Beaver (08:44):

Yeah, it’s a good word.

Sevan Matossian (08:44):

Got yourself some head sevan. I need your thoughts.

Caleb Beaver (08:49):

Oh, awesome.

Sevan Matossian (08:51):

I have an issue. A issue. I my dad. That’s the dude by the way. When someone says my dad, that’s the dude that busted a nut in your mom, his semen mixed with something inside your mom that made you, that’s what father denotes. That denotes connotes. Denotes. Denotes. Thank you. My dad has been told he has high cholesterol and has been given statins. Oh, Nelly. No, no, no, no, no. He’s healthy, mobile active. 65 year old. He doesn’t need them. Yeah. Okay. That’s the second person who’s asked that. When Greg comes on, we’ll all bug him about statins. There is like statins are a big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big.


Even my mom knows that I, she’ll give you brain fog, dude. The side effects of statins are crazy. I’ll tell you this. Basically there’s tons of books. There’s tons of books like the Cholesterol Myth, the Statin Myth, there’s tons of books on it, but they did some crazy shit in those studies. Those are some of the most corrupt studies. You can’t even believe it. You cannot even believe it. But then on top of that, medicine and science has completely fucking, well, broken science has completely bastardized what cholesterol is. They don’t even know what cholesterol is. They completely misrepresent it.


The great cholesterol myth. There you go. There’s one. You got to get ’em that. Yeah. Hey, there is no’s no one I’ll give you, I’ll a stat. It’s been a while since I’ve said this. Bear with me. There’s a study where they look at high cholesterol in women and women who are over 65 who have high cholesterol, live healthier, longer lives than women who have low cholesterol in the over 65 category. And the reason why is cholesterol is a correlate. It is not a cause. Cholesterol is a correlate, meaning God, I need more sleep to share this with you.


It’s a correlate to someone being unhealthy. It’s not proof of it, but cholesterol is good. You got to read the book. When Greg comes on, we’ll pick his brain. You don’t want my brain for it. I’m going to confuse you, but there’s shit tons of evidence on it. Maybe I’ll even brush up on it and give you guys a bunch this week. There’s no one who’s seriously looked at the cholesterol studies, who thinks that they’re real. By the way, that’s just more evidence for you too, that your doctor’s just been programmed by pharma. It’s just being told what to say.

Caleb Beaver (12:11):

There’s no critical thinking on their end. None. Whenever I talk to some of my doctor friends, you just try to, I don’t know, invite reason into the conversation and it gets shut down. It’s like, well, that’s not what the algorithm says. That’s not what this says. It’s like you’re not even allowing another thought in your head. That’s it. No,

Sevan Matossian (12:36):

Not at all.

Caleb Beaver (12:37):


Sevan Matossian (12:40):

When Greg’s coming on on Tuesday, give me 39 cents so your comment pops up and I’ll make sure to ask him. I’ll make sure to ask him. Justin H Cutting grass listening to Seb on Good Saturday. Oh, that’s cool. Someone asked it had a question in here that I have. No, where is it? Oh, who’s coming on for the, when is this mythical thousandth episode?

Caleb Beaver (13:13):

I think we’re 10 shows away.

Sevan Matossian (13:16):

Oh my goodness.

Caleb Beaver (13:18):


Sevan Matossian (13:20):

Jay Ruffner, sugar algae. I was a hundred percent on the algae train and then when I saw them face off, I was like, wow, sugar is big and algae looks skinny. It’s going to be He did skinny. It’s going to be crazy.

Caleb Beaver (13:38):

I’m not sure the al’s, what do they call it? Posturing really does anything for me. I know I said before that I didn’t really like Sugar Sean, but I was going to go with algae. But after that face off, I think I like sugar Sean A. Little better.

Sevan Matossian (14:08):

You do like sugar better. Oh nice. I think so. Yeah. The other shot, they’re going to show you an angle from the other side and you’re going to see that algae is not bigger than him.

Caleb Beaver (14:22):

He’s definitely shorter,

Sevan Matossian (14:24):

But even his legs and his chest and his arms, I thought algae would be huge compared to him all buff and shit. But when you saw it from the other side, I was like, oh shit, he’s not.

Caleb Beaver (14:35):

Let’s see.

Sevan Matossian (14:37):

So I put in women over 65 with high cholesterol live longer, and what popped up in Google is in the current study, higher L D L cholesterol levels and relatively healthy older women actually were associated with longer survival until we have compelling evidence that cholesterol lowering drugs improve clinical outcomes in such patients, we should emphasize healthy lifestyle and resist pharmacological intervention. Yeah, it’s a correlate and it’s not a cause. It’s crazy. The higher the subjects L D L cholesterol, the longer they live and the less heart disease they seem to experience. And there’s so many crazy side effects from statins. What canarians teach us, despite the current emphasis on achieving lower cholesterol levels, the fact is that cholesterol is not associated with longer lifespan. That’s not true. Let me click on this guy’s page and see who he’s associated with. Oh, sorry. Low cholesterol is not associated with longer lifespan. Okay, so I do agree with this guy. Despite the current emphasis on achieving low cholesterol levels, the fact is that low cholesterol is not associated with longer lifespan. Yeah, dude,


There are these things that we know and yet that we just throw them out the window. So I’m going to talk to you about polio for instance. Polio cannot live out here with us Soon as it’s exposed to oxygen. The polio virus has some crazy name. It’s dead, it’s toast. The same thing with tetanus. I can’t get tetanus and throw it at you and you get it. The nail has to go into you and it has to transmit that way in an environment where there’s no oxygen. As soon as it hits oxygen toast done. I shouldn’t say it’s dead, it was never alive, but for some reason it becomes, it can’t do whatever the bad shit is out in oxygen.


And yet people were thinking that that shit polio was being transmitted through the air, through touching people, all that shit for just forever. And once again, if you just barely scratch the surface, you’ll see that it has to go inside. It has to be inside of you and it has to leak out your gut. And how does shit leak out of your gut when you’re unhealthy, when you have leaky gut and so many fucking Americans have that. But you have to think, you have to be able to think a little bit. You have to be like, well, if you can’t travel through the air, I can’t get it that way, then how the fuck did I get it? Just some logic and maybe there’s some loopholes and there’s some workarounds. I’m not saying that I’m necessarily right, but just think people have to think they have to ask questions. I formally request a 10 minute guest slot for the 1000th episodes since I have a team engraved mouse pad. Alright,

Caleb Beaver (17:58):

These are nice mouse pads.

Sevan Matossian (18:00):

Where is mine?

Caleb Beaver (18:02):

I started using mine since SU gave it to me.

Sevan Matossian (18:05):

Look at what I have. I was cleaned out my garage and I found more bags of weeded. I’ll send you a bag of weed since you’re even my kids know, they’re like, it smells like weed in here. They’re like, what’s that for? Just to smell. It’s for smelling.

Caleb Beaver (18:29):

It’s incense. Incense.

Sevan Matossian (18:30):

Tell me when that episode is, Heidi, and I’ll send you a link. You can come on. We’ll hang out. It’d be a pleasure to have you on. Oh no. Mrs. Burns from Sabbath Essentials. Shit. I’m on breakfast break and someone in here is open mouth chewer and drink slipper.

Caleb Beaver (18:53):

Love it.

Sevan Matossian (18:54):

Yeah. Kenneth Deap, leaky gut and autism have some interesting correlations. It’s man, that gut. That’s why I was tripping. I was feeling bad for Danielle Brandan when she said she was on a shitload of antibiotics. That shit’s not good for your gut. That shit will fuck with your performance for

Caleb Beaver (19:10):

Sure. C diff.

Sevan Matossian (19:11):

I did harvest those. I did harvest that weeded. I mean, how do

Caleb Beaver (19:16):

You harvest it

Sevan Matossian (19:17):

Five years ago? Just go back to scissors. Yeah, scissors and then cut off. And then it’s got tons of big leaves sticking out everywhere and you kind of are trying to get those away too. It’s a sticky mess.

Caleb Beaver (19:31):


Sevan Matossian (19:32):

Is a sticky mess. I think I sent you the notes.

Caleb Beaver (19:36):

I have them.

Sevan Matossian (19:37):

Hey guys. The bet shit is getting really interesting now. So Travis Tyson Bet the young guy’s been on the show a bunch last week. He played, he had a great week in the N F L and then this week it sounds like he’s going to play for at least a quarter. And then I think the last week they’re talking about playing him a whole half.

Caleb Beaver (20:00):

A whole half.

Sevan Matossian (20:01):

A whole half. Is that half halftime? Half the game Chicago Bears preseason. Are you ready to see more Tyson beget? Wow. This is crazy. The article’s not as nice as the title. The title makes it seem like they love him, but this guy, Jacob Infante says, as sad as it makes me, the sicko part of me is excited to see more Tyson Bet when the Bears play this week.

Caleb Beaver (20:35):

That’s pretty dope. Yeah. I’m excited for him.

Sevan Matossian (20:40):

Sunday show is going to be awesome. Whatever happened to the seven podcast newsletter? The guy who does it quit. I told him I would pay him. I stopped paying him and he stopped making them. Seriously. It was just like that

Caleb Beaver (20:59):


Sevan Matossian (21:01):

Yeah. Not everyone is independently wealthy like Caleb can just keep working for free.


Number one. This is in my feed every single day now. And the reason why it hits so hard with me is this is right. I used to go to this gas station regularly. I went to this gas station at least once a month. I know this whole area intimately. And this is by the Oakland airport. And you see there’s a guy squatted down behind that van right there. So people are stopping at this gas station to get gas and they’re being robbed just right in front of them. Thieves target tourists and empty out their trunks full of luggage while they were distracted pumping gas. This shit, there is a version of this every day now on my Instagram, I’ve become obsessed with this kind of just this insane stealing that’s just going on everywhere. Look at that shit. He pops the trunk crazy, right?

Caleb Beaver (22:18):

Yeah. It’s insane. They’re so fast too. Also, they have a nice ass car.

Sevan Matossian (22:23):

Yeah, you paid someone. Yeah. Don’t let that get out. Don’t let that pay increase for Caleb. Of course. Caleb, pay increase for you.

Caleb Beaver (22:37):

Ah, thanks.

Sevan Matossian (22:38):

Appreciate it. Doubling Caleb’s pay tomorrow. That’s a good idea. I dunno why I didn’t think about that, David. Thank you. Got to say strapped in Oakland. The thing is, I don’t know what you can do to stop those people.

Caleb Beaver (22:55):

You just have to know your surroundings honestly. You have to be aware of everything around you. You can’t,

Sevan Matossian (23:02):

I mean everything. Literally you’re pumping gas and someone could come jack your shit. Yeah,

Caleb Beaver (23:09):

Right. Just so quick.

Sevan Matossian (23:15):

Oh no. Jody Lynn. My purse was stolen out of my car while I was pumping gas. I never noticed. Insane.

Caleb Beaver (23:23):

Holy shit. That’s quick.

Sevan Matossian (23:28):

Savon Topanga Mall. Epic stealing. Yeah. That’s down in la, right? Epic. I know it’s,


I don’t know what’s happened here in California. The purge is on. Oh, someone did send me this though. I didn’t ask ’em if I could read it, but I’m going to read it to you anyway. It says it’s number 27. I should erase one. It’s number 27. And I posted this on my Instagram and someone said, Hey, I’m telling you a lot of what you’re showing and sharing on your podcast sounds like South Africa. I don’t think you’re that bad yet. But it’s the same here. People who are previously disadvantaged and therefore can do whatever they want now. Yeah. This is the whole George. This is all George Floyd shit. This is all George Floyd shit. So this is a guy. Oh, this is awesome. This is a guy three nights in a row, push thieves away off, I dunno. Out of his apartment complex. Look at this. This is crazy. Here’s some thieves trying to throw a motorcycle in the back of a U-Haul. And this guy runs out there. You can play the audio on these too.

Speaker 3 (24:40):

Audio on the surveillance cameras. Let’s listen in.

Sevan Matossian (24:44):

They grabbed the motorcycle.

Speaker 4 (24:51):


Speaker 3 (24:54):

It’s actually them trying to steal a catalytic converter. Listen.

Speaker 4 (24:58):

Yeah. What?

Sevan Matossian (25:10):

Damn another motorcycle.

Speaker 4 (25:25):

Get the fuck out. Come on. Whatcha the fuck?

Sevan Matossian (25:33):

Oh, you can hear the thieves girlfriend crying. Can you hear her?

Caleb Beaver (25:36):

Yeah. Unless that’s just the dude. That’s fucking crazy. Dude. Also, imagine after that point, you know how to handle every single person that comes into your house. Also, I think, I don’t know if he was doing this, but I felt like his garage door was open on purpose. Oh, he just kept it. Unless, yeah, unless they figured out a way to open it. Which I know there’s ways you can open garage doors, but he’s going to fuck some people up.

Sevan Matossian (26:13):

Wow. January. Oh, sleek. He said that Biden bringing back masks to healthcare settings and airports and planes. Please tell me you’re joking. I will not do that.

Caleb Beaver (26:29):

So glad I’m getting out of healthcare.

Sevan Matossian (26:34):

Sunny K. Oh, I’m going to Seattle for my L two. Yeah, that’s dumb dude. As bad as Oakland. Worse. Yikes.

Speaker 5 (26:47):

Good luck.

Sevan Matossian (26:50):

At least you’ll be fit. You’ll get fitter. This is kind of a tough one to bring up, but here we go. Anyway, I’ve always felt like there was a strong connection between the word gender and religious people and God, gender’s, imagination, and I think God’s imagination, and I think they kind of live in the same place in the brain for a lot of people. I think a lot of people who believe in God and are religious are just making that shit up in their head in, I think in the Bible it says God made a man in his image. But in reality what I’m observing is that manmade God in his image. It’s the exact opposite of that. And I’ve talked about it not in a while, but a year ago that was kind of one of the themes that I was sharing with you guys is like, yeah, there’s this delusion that people can’t tell the difference between their thoughts and reality. And I can touch a penis and I can touch a vagina. And for me, that substantiates through my own discernment that those things are real. And yet gender is just this imaginary thoughts that I attach to it.


That’s okay. Until you can’t distinguish the two. And I’ve always thought that God was like that for a lot of people. And then about six months ago on the show, it was proposed to me, and it kind of solidified that there’s people who don’t know that they say they don’t believe in God, but they actually do believe in God. And they believe that c n n is their God. Meaning let’s say you have these four quadrants in your brain. I’m just making that up you. And one of them is you need a God. It’s like just how we are. Just like you have a mouth and you need to put foot food in it. There are things as human beings that we have to have in our life in order to operate food, air. But there’s also some thoughts. And those thoughts are what’s giving us some sort of direction.


And so if some people choose God and they fill it in that compartment, but other people, unbeknownst to them, they’ve chosen the news, they’ve chosen the fucking news, and they don’t know it, and they worship the same way that religious people let religion and the Bible and those types and scripture run that part of their life, which I’m okay with perfectly okay with. Other people have chosen the news, Don Lemon. It’s fucking crazy. And they don’t even know it. But yesterday when I was listening to Vivek Gramma Swami, he said this and I thought, wow, this is fucking amazing. And this is in reference to the black community, LGBTQ plus z Y, the Republicans, the Democrats, any of these groups, these communities, these bullshit communities. He said, Colts don’t have an obligation to logic. I’m paraphrasing.

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