#979 – We should talk | Live Call In

Sevan Matossian (00:00):

That’s fucking rad. Well, good morning. Bam. We’re live.

Mattew Souza (00:04):

Good morning. You see, we got our guest scheduled up too, Mr. Gerard.

Sevan Matossian (00:10):

No shit. Yeah. When is that?

Mattew Souza (00:13):

It’s Tuesday evening. He’s in Australia, so it has to be an evening show.

Sevan Matossian (00:18):

Shit. Okay, cool. That’s as soon as he could do it. That’s the 15th.

Mattew Souza (00:22):


Sevan Matossian (00:23):

Dude. Awesome.

Mattew Souza (00:27):

On a roll, baby.

Sevan Matossian (00:29):

Yeah. I’m so excited to talk to him. I had a nice correspondence with Karin too. She’s traveling and it’s somewhere far away. Might as well be another planet,

Mattew Souza (00:45):


Sevan Matossian (00:47):

Basically. Dude, we got a crazy lineup for this Friday.

Mattew Souza (00:53):

It’s insane.

Sevan Matossian (00:55):

Hey, you know what I was thinking too? Maybe. I know I keep saying I want to move away from the games, but we should do, I’d love to get Lambay back on and Torres back on and El Hajj back on. Just start just cranking on coaches. I met that dude. Harry Pey, the H W P O dude.

Mattew Souza (01:16):


Sevan Matossian (01:17):

And I’d like to get Cole on

Mattew Souza (01:20):

Cole. Harry’s cool. I wonder if he remembers me. He drove me around when I went and visited Ben.

Sevan Matossian (01:26):

Is he cool? He’s really smiley. Could I ding him for being too nice? Oh, Kiefer the guy. That guy’s a fuck. Did you meet that dude?

Mattew Souza (01:36):

No, I don’t think I did.

Sevan Matossian (01:37):

Justin Kotler’s homeboy. Underdog’s Athletics. That’s a big dude. Oh, you know who else we have to fucking do something with? Who’s the guy I was ripping on over at? Who’s the guy I was ripping on over at Invictus? That’s a cool dude. That was the most embarrassing. I rip on a lot of people. That was what? Bryce? Bryce? Yeah.


Wow. That was, so there’s this guy over at Invictus. He has a podcast and I’ve made fun of him for being an ai. All these people are so nice on their podcast. So this dude, so this fucking giant dude, he’s a big man. I would nominate him as maybe the best, this is kind of crazy to say this, but maybe the best looking man at the CrossFit games too. I mean, he puts Chase Ingram to shame and he’s in the media pits and he stands out like a sore thumb because he’s shiny. He’s a Ferrari amongst fucking Priuses. It’s true. And he kind of has to even lean over to talk to me. Giant over five seven. That’s correct. No, I think this dude’s six three. This is a big dude.

Mattew Souza (02:55):

The big dude. Look at that picture, dude.

Sevan Matossian (02:58):

What is it? Oh, I don’t know, dude. I swear to God, he looks like Ken from Barbie. Probably a bad time to use that example because of the movie, but Anita, Dick and me s You need to take your shirt off for episode 1000. We’re like over a thousand. Yeah, we’re

Mattew Souza (03:24):

At 1075,

Sevan Matossian (03:26):

But I’ll put my dick in you on episode 1000. How about that? Anyway, this dude, Bryce, this dude says something to me at the games. He’s like, hi, Savon, I’m Bryce. I’m like, Hey, nice to meet you. And he’s just all imposing and shit and got a big smile and he’s like, I’m the guy from the Brute Podcaster Invictus podcast. I’m like, oh shit.

Mattew Souza (03:49):

He’s like, I’m not AI

Sevan Matossian (03:50):

Shit. Why can’t you be five two in a little bitch? Why do you have to be a giant? It’s crazy.

Mattew Souza (03:58):

I caught that off film.

Sevan Matossian (04:00):

You did when we met

Mattew Souza (04:01):

That first interaction. Yeah. Oh

Sevan Matossian (04:03):

Yeah. I want to see that. I was probably shitting my pants. You know who else I saw who I liked? I went out of my way to put my hands on is the dude from the Brute podcast, the S Shoemaker guy, Schumacher Schumaker. God, the media people are so cool. And I busted on all of them, and they were all so nice to me. Seon about the Kilo Group. I was at the Two Brain Seminar and they were there and had c e O stickers, a few others, giving them out. I thought you knew. No, I had no idea, but I got some, someone gave me some. That

Mattew Souza (04:46):

Was me.

Sevan Matossian (04:47):

Oh, that was you.

Mattew Souza (04:51):

They gave me a ton of stickers.

Sevan Matossian (04:56):

No, I was not filming anyone in the bathroom. Someone, were you the one filming men in the bathroom? No, I don’t think I would do that ever. Even if it was like, someone’s like, follow me in here. I don’t know.

Mattew Souza (05:10):

It was probably a bathroom selfie gone red.

Sevan Matossian (05:13):

Yeah, I don’t think I do that. Hey, I do want, those stickers are cool, and those people are really cool. It’s too bad. It took me a while to figure out who they were. Can you show me our website really quick? I want to see our website. And let me send you today’s show notes. I want to see our website. Oh, no, these notes are getting long too. Oh, did you see, are we putting up the bumpers for Two Brain and at the end of those? Who’s putting those up on YouTube, by the way?

Mattew Souza (05:52):

I’m not sure.

Sevan Matossian (05:53):

Oh, well, it’s really cool. They’re doing it. Whoever’s doing it.

Mattew Souza (05:55):

Yeah. I mean, the bumpers are all over Instagram. I was responsible for those, so we jammed on all of them. There’s website

Sevan Matossian (06:05):

Unedited interviews and conversations with interesting people. Maybe we should change some of the writing. It should say Live every morning.

Mattew Souza (06:12):

Well, we have a lot of headshot of you now and a lot of other stuff, so I think it needs a little update.

Sevan Matossian (06:18):

Okay. And what’s the lady’s name we talked to over there? Kalita?

Mattew Souza (06:21):


Sevan Matossian (06:22):

Have you ever met her?

Mattew Souza (06:23):

I did at the games.

Sevan Matossian (06:25):

Did you say her name out loud, Kalita?

Mattew Souza (06:27):

Nope. And I won’t do it now either.

Sevan Matossian (06:29):

Yeah, someone needs to say her name so I can, no one needs to say her name so I can hear.

Mattew Souza (06:36):

You’re going to ask me next

Sevan Matossian (06:38):


Mattew Souza (06:40):

They got all the interviews meets up on the site.

Sevan Matossian (06:46):

Okay. Oh, no. Shit. Okay. I wish there was a reason for people to go there.

Mattew Souza (06:52):

I know websites are tough these days, unless you’re buying something, huh?

Sevan Matossian (06:57):

What can we sell that people want meth? What can we put over there that people would want to go over there? I just want people to, for some reason, I want more traffic at our nudes. Just start posting a daily nude over there.

Mattew Souza (07:17):

Just hyping. If you go to the website right now, check it out for a big surprise.

Sevan Matossian (07:22):

Oh, hey, one more thing. This is probably silly to promote, but will you go to a YouTube three Plain Brothers Instagram account if you have kids? There’s a time, and now that I got this new camera, I’m inspired to start doing it again, but there’s no way I’m going to, but if you have kids and you want to see what I used to do with my kids, what I still do with my kids almost on a daily basis, how I play with them. I think there’s hundreds of videos over there, at least a hundred. And if you go to, you can scroll through this just crazy library of videos, and it’s just videos of how I used to play with my kids in there. I don’t know when they were 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 years old, and you could just get ideas for stuff that I used to do with them.

Mattew Souza (08:20):

Oh, man. When they had the long hair?

Sevan Matossian (08:22):

Yeah, they had the long hair. And then also over on Sugar Wad, I made a, I don’t even, I think it’s $50 or something, but it’s 50 videos and it’s 50 days of programming. I’m not trying to sell you that. I’m just telling you it’s over there. But you can also just go to that YouTube page and just harvest ideas.


Okay. Greg C, can you share the story of the sombrero? The sombrero was just mostly every year. I’ve worn those at the games, and it’s because Katie. Oh, okay, so that’s the sugar wad site. Yeah, that took a long time to do. I don’t even know why I did that. I can’t remember. I think those people said, Hey, we don’t have any kids programming on here. Will you do that? And I did it, but there’s 50 videos and 50 days of programming and pretty much, I want to say 40 of the 50. You don’t even need equipment.


It’s a shame. I lost my old Instagram account. It had so much good stuff on it for kids. Oh man. So every year I’ve Warner sombrero there that Katie and Bill have given me, and it says Rogue on it. And one of the first years I ever wore it, it was a lifesaver. I never thought I’d wear one of those, but it was in Carson and it was hot and it was cooking. What’s funny is I wore that, and I remember one time walking by Catherine’s David’s daughter, and she’s like, oh, I need one of those.


And at that particular games, I had my 14 year old nephew with me as my assistant. So he ran and got Catherine David’s daughter won. And then the following year when she saw him, I think I brought him to the games again. She goes, oh, that’s the nice boy that brought me my sombrero. Yeah. So I just wore that. It’s just a sun protection. But then I started rocking my own visor. God, look at that meat hook on Colton. His forearms just like a cylinder. Yeah. How did you find someone two feet shorter than you to take this photo?


So this probably doesn’t, I don’t need to beat a dead horse because it’s kind of sad, but I’ll just put some closure to it. For those of you who didn’t follow the whole Sporty Beth thing, there’s this girl on the internet and she made a video about me, and it’s called The Most Toxic Man in CrossFit. And the irony is, is that the footage she used that she claims I’m toxic about. One of the things is the thing that people on Reddit have attacked me for, and the New York Times attacked me for, and instead of honestly being attacked, I should have been considered a hero. People should have fucking thanked me. And it’s basically in the conversation, I talked to Stacey Tovar about the birth control she’s using. And in that conversation, she reveals that when she got off of the birth control, her performance actually got better.


And that in the conversation with other girls, she realized that the birth control that these girls were on was actually inhibiting their performance, professional athletes getting noticeable changes when they got off of their birth control. And for some reason, that’s the same reason if you called someone who is 500 pounds fat. That’s inappropriate. Telling the truth for some reason is inappropriate. I don’t think so. I don’t even think it’s even slightly inappropriate. I think sharing information, I’ve told this, I haven’t used this metaphor in a while, but if you’re running off the edge of a cliff with your eyes closed and I yell at you, Hey, dumb fuck, stop running and I save your life. And the first thing you turn around and say to me is, don’t call me dumb fuck. Then me and you aren’t totally different planets.


The Dao was saying, you’re staring at my finger while I’m pointing at the moon. You’re completely lost. You’re a snail and I’m an eagle, and I get it. I was a snail once too. You look at the ground, you have the perception and the awareness of just what’s in front of you like this. But I’m not a snail, I’m an eagle, and I see fucking high altitude shit, but I also remember being a snail, so I get it. I don’t hate you. I fully remember being a snail. And so this chicks sporty best makes this video about me. And if you do that to someone like me, make a video like that about me. Or if you start saying my name and I hear you’re saying my name, I’ll just incorporate you into my life story. So you make a video about me that calls me the most toxic man in CrossFit, and I’ll just, same thing.


Hiller did the same thing. He made a video about her. We never talked bad about her. We just kind of incorporated her into our stories. But dude, it’s a pretty bold move to take someone. I don’t care who it is, you could be a peon and make a video like that about Brad Pitt. You should know that now you’ve intertwined your life with theirs. So you make a video like that about me. So I’ve chosen to make her part of the narrative and part of the bits that I do on the show and whatnot, but I’ve never been, per se mean to her. Recently she was going after Taylor Self or something. They were fighting and I mentioned like, Hey, there’s a reality. And in that reality, I have a large nose. And in that reality, you’re obese, you’re fat, and I was just saying, let’s just live in reality for a second.


And I wasn’t even saying it to be mean. It wasn’t like I was like, nah, nah, nah, nah, you have whatever you have giraffe. I wasn’t even doing that. I was just using it to state a point of reality. And she’s proud of the fact that she’s fat and she’s proud of the fact she has mental illness. She champions those aspects and qualities of herself on her Instagram. It’s all over her shit. So anyway, so recently I had heard that she didn’t have a media pass, and so I mentioned it to Dave and he got her a media pass, and now she writes this, which is interesting. She wrote this on her Instagram. Someone sent me this today. It says, there’s been a lot of comments on my post, and it was a bit confusing that Savon supposedly mentioned it to Dave after saying such horrible things to me. Well, once again, it’s a mischaracterization. I’ve never said anything horrible to her, but to say, even if I did say something horrible to her, you made a video calling me the most toxic man in CrossFit when actually I helped women realize that they’re taking drugs that are bad for their performance. I mean, it’s fucking nuts. But anyway, and at that point, if I was a gentleman, the way my mom raised me, I would just tiptoe out of the room because I know I’m dealing with crazy now.


It seems that this is the ulterior motive. So now she thinks that because I told Dave to get her a media pastor, I mentioned I didn’t tell Dave to, I don’t tell Dave anything. I mentioned it to him. I had an ulterior motive, and so I was thinking, I wonder if I did have an ulterior motive, but I don’t. It was just kind of an off the cuff. You know what I actually thought? I remember my train of thought. I thought, holy fuck, I had this conversation with you. Holy fuck. She came from Europe and she doesn’t have a media pass. That sucks. It

Mattew Souza (15:33):

Was literally verbatim what you said.

Sevan Matossian (15:35):

Yeah, yeah. Or maybe even you said it. But either way, that was the conversation, and then I just quickly text Dave and moved on with my day or whispered it to him or something, and then she says, I didn’t see him there to thank him, but I have been very grateful on all my videos, which you definitely haven’t watched. Oh, has she been thanking me? Oh, no. Thanking Dave.

Mattew Souza (16:01):


Sevan Matossian (16:01):

Dave. It was Dave who messaged me, and he did mention Seon mentioned I didn’t have one. Interesting. I’ve got an influx of these columns. Was was it only given to me for this purpose? No. So now she’s paranoid because she made a video called The Most Toxic Man in CrossFit, right? I mean, that’s pretty obvious.

Mattew Souza (16:21):

Yeah. But

Sevan Matossian (16:21):

The funniest and rightfully so. I’d be paranoid. I was paranoid that Bryce was going to fucking be like, I’m nodding an AI and.my I. Oh, you think ai? Yeah. You think an AI could punch you in the face from, I get it. I totally get her paranoia afraid to see all these motherfuckers that I talk shit about. I get it. I’m with you with S Sporty bet. That’s where I’m paranoid too about people. I talk shit about seeing in

Mattew Souza (16:44):

Person. It’s absolutely insane that she says this was his ulterior motive to give the pass. So then people commented, if she had just said, wow, I actually can’t believe this s asked Dave that I should have, or if I could have a pass, none of the comments would exist. And in fact, it would’ve actually, the comments would’ve existed, but it would’ve been the other way around,

Sevan Matossian (17:03):

Right? Oh, this is really cool. You guys are coming together and squashing your beef.

Mattew Souza (17:08):

Yeah. It’s like she took her shit on the floor and then you were like, Hey, don’t step in that shit. And then she did, and she’s like, did you have an ulterior motive?

Sevan Matossian (17:14):


Mattew Souza (17:14):

You tell me that now all these comments are saying, I stepped in it. It’s like, what? You took it. You did it yourself.

Sevan Matossian (17:22):

Anyway. There’s no ulterior motive. I’m glad. I think you had fun there, miss Beth. I hope you didn’t need a lot of Valium, and next year we’ll get another shot. Geez, Louise Chevy. When do you start filming commercials for all those sponsors? What commercials? What’s he talking about? Paper Street Coffee. Oh, paper Street Coffee until August 13th. Thank you. Jesus Louise. If you use the code word, I don’t know what the code word is. Seven. No, it’s not

Mattew Souza (17:54):

Too easy. Games 23,

Sevan Matossian (17:56):

Is it? I

Mattew Souza (17:57):

Dunno. You go

Sevan Matossian (17:57):

To Paper Street Coffee, use games 23, you can get a discount on subscriptions. So what’s cool about that is then that’s a discount you get every single month that you get to use. Now, I don’t eat cottage cheese, but I would eat cottage cheese if I bought some, I would eat it. I like cottage cheese,

Mattew Souza (18:17):

Free shipping, this

Sevan Matossian (18:19):

Mind, and I’m not repulsed in even the slightest by cottage cheese on people’s bodies either. Not even the tiniest bit. It doesn’t do. I don’t find it unattractive at all. So there, how about me?

Mattew Souza (18:33):

Brilliant Tools. Coffee,

Sevan Matossian (18:35):

David Weeded? No, I can’t read that, but no, sorry. There was something else in here I thought that I should. Oh, California peptides ca peptides.com. Two days ago, I accidentally put too much in the syringe. I shot half in my back and half in my bicep yesterday I just did a B PC 1 5 0 BPC 1 5 0, no, BPC 3 57. That’s a nice cup. And I did the TB 500 in my bicep. Now two days since I’ve been back, I’ve done that.


Birth control is a carcinogen. Oh yeah. So you guys, if you go here, I don’t know if you still get the free water or not, but for a couple days you got free shipping and the free water. You need to reconstitute the peptides because when you get the peptides, they’re in powder form. And by the way, when you put the water in there, you have to do it very, very, very gently. According to Andrew Hiller. Go watch Andrew Hiller’s video on how to reconstitute that shit. I did 20 rope climbs yesterday. I did 10 cows on the assault bike. I did 10 front squats with a 40 pound D ball and two 16 foot rope climbs.

Mattew Souza (19:51):


Sevan Matossian (19:52):

10 rounds. Yeah. Cool. Bicep feels totally fine.

Mattew Souza (19:58):

I feel so slow and out of shape after the games

Sevan Matossian (20:01):

Dildo, sev s’s nose has its own gravitational pool. I mean, why? What the fuck? It’s fucking seven 20 in the morning. Why? There’s no need. It’s not even like an afternoon show.

Mattew Souza (20:17):

You know what? Help this. If I told the story about the time I saved a woman’s life at the airport, did you? No. Dan’s just trolling me. I love that guy.

Sevan Matossian (20:33):

Oh, Mike, sit down. I can’t read this either. Jesus crying. You look like an action figure.

Mattew Souza (20:40):

I thank you for that sweatshirt again, dude. I wear it. I will wear it all the time when it’s winter. Love me a

Sevan Matossian (20:46):

Good rogue. There’s a comment in one of the, because there’s more and more commenters now because we did the games and we did those shows, and we got a lot of people who watched, right? A lot of those people who, oh, shit, that dog did scratch me good yesterday there. There’s a lot of people watching who haven’t watched the show before, and one person said, Hey, basically I’m paraphrasing what they said, but they said basically Avon’s a right wing propagandist. They didn’t use the word right wing or propagandist, but they’re like, he never shows the 20 people with guns with Trump hats on in front of the capitol building protesting. He was basically saying, I don’t show both sides to the story.


And I thought, I kind of wanted to tell you guys why I don’t show both sides to the story. And there’s another guy who’s just always in my dms. He’s just constantly sends me videos of priests who rape kids basically. You know what I mean? It’s in the news, the drumbeat of like, Hey, today a church in Italy, a priest got caught molesting a kid here today in Compton, a priest got caught. And he’s like, Hey, why don’t you ever push that? Why don’t you ever show that? And there’s a response to all of that that’s very, very clear, and it’s kind of the grass is greener on the other side of the hill phenomenon. Or be careful what you wish for. No one in their right mind is a proponent or supporter of pedophilia or condones it in any way or thinks it’s okay, but there’s levels to it there. There’s you being groomed by your high school teacher versus an entire party with ideological values that’s trying to normalize and legalize pedophilia. It’s completely two different things going on. The church is by no means trying to normalize this behavior. They’re not trying to bring it out into the open and be like, let’s legalize this shit. Let’s accept these people. Oh, shut it. I am not the Alex Jones of CrossFit. I shut it.


Why don’t you show the negative stuff police do? Well, because relative to the negative stuff that the police do, the attack on police has had, there’s no comparison and the significance and the detriment that it’s had on society, what police have done to society versus the attack on police not accepting them as human beings and trying to work with the best that we have. The perfect example, as soon as the George Floyd shit happened and the defund the police shit happened, fucking black on black murders increased 34% nationwide with the intention of it to help those people. It’s fucking insane. I’m not doing that game. It has nothing to do with right or left. It’s always just simple math or logic. I don’t care at this point right now relative to this, I don’t want to go to the greener side of the hill where we just accept everyone in love, everyone, and then all of a sudden kids are getting molested legally, no thank you.


I’m not going over there. I’d rather stay over here with some closet fucking priest molesting kids and us trying to chase ’em down. But it’d still be illegal. I’m okay with the cops making 365 million stops a year and 12 unarmed black men getting killed, who resisted arrest for the sake of not an extra 7,500 black men killing each other because cops are afraid to go into their neighborhoods. Sorry, just simple fucking math and logic for me. I’m not worried about fucking the orange haired guy saying that he’d rather have a Jew as his accountant than a black man, and then people calling him racist for that while the fucking border’s open and fentanyl’s pointing across the border. I’m choosing my logical fights. Wow. This is an interesting comment. Sean Sullivan stevon. It is the naturally progression of perversion. It’s fucking gross. Avon. Did you see the F b I killed the guy in Utah yesterday? Let me guess. He was voted against Hillary Clinton. No. What happened? I didn’t see that. Brandon Graham, Russians are chemically castrating pedophiles while America’s chemically castrating children. Yeah. I’m just choosing my side, but I’m not justifying it. I’m not like, wow, this is really great. What the Catholic church is doing. Diddling kids

Mattew Souza (26:02):

See the stats

Sevan Matossian (26:04):

Number of people shot to death by police in the United States from 2017 to 2023. Yeah. Oh, that’s awesome. Yeah, look at that. Well,

Mattew Souza (26:10):

It’s not. Look at that. Well, the white people still get shot more by police making a big push

Sevan Matossian (26:18):

Though. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well, they should get shot more. Well, without looking at anything else but just proportions. They should get shot more. But relative to the crimes they commit, maybe they shouldn’t get shot more. But either way, what’s so crazy is it’s 500 less, but those 500 people probably need to get shot. It’s not my place to say I’m not God, but look at all the fucking crime we have now. I mean, dude, there’s whole cities that are lost. San Francisco’s toast. Hey, we’re going to go to the city and do some filming. Me and Suzy, it’s going to be great. We’re going to go there. I can’t wait.

Mattew Souza (26:54):

I’m excited. Unknown.

Sevan Matossian (27:05):

Mad Marv, he was 75 over 300 pounds, could barely walk, and they shot him. No explanation about how or why. Oh, I think I did see that story. Wait a second. Is he white or black? That’s the only thing that matters. He’s definitely white Ru. You guys would’ve told me already. Ken O’Connor. I prefer the blend. But after talking to Dalton Rosta, maybe you shouldn’t do the blend. I’m not sure. I’m not sure. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. He was threatening the president. That’s right. He threatened. He threatened. Threatened. He threatened Joe. Threatened.

Sevan Matossian (27:48):


Sevan Matossian (27:49):

Anyway, that’s my thing. I don’t want to seem like I’m just for one side, but it’s just because there’s some issues that I just have no tolerance for. I can’t do the can’t any hurting kid shit. You know what I mean? I can’t do any of it. It’s like a hard no. How come when I am erasing these things as we do them and yet they’re still in my list? You figured

Mattew Souza (28:20):

The kid thing would just be like a comment around,

Sevan Matossian (28:24):

We would just be a what?

Mattew Souza (28:26):

A common ground. Everybody would be on the side defending the children.

Sevan Matossian (28:30):


Mattew Souza (28:31):

Maybe that’s where it would be the common ground starting point. Maybe we could work away from there, but instead it’s like, no,

Sevan Matossian (28:41):

There are these things that we just accepted growing up as kids that now I just can’t even accept either. It’s like now that I have kids that our parents just accepted, which is basically by law, if you have kids, you have to send them to school. They have to go to school. There’s all these things that they have to do. They have to get the injection. I don’t know how we ended up going down that path of so many. You have to do these things.


I miss something who’s trying to legalize pedophilia? There’s tons and tons and tons of examples, but I’ll give you two and what I’m going to say could be wrong, but the spirit of what I’m saying is right, and you just got to look into a little bit more. Well, one of the things is they’re trying to change the name from pedophilia to minor attracted persons. That should be a huge red flag. They’re trying to make it so that you cannot, so they have laws in places, and I want to say it was in Wisconsin, is Madison Madison’s capital, Wisconsin? I want to say it was in Wisconsin recently. They just passed a law where you can’t discriminate against someone in the workplace because they’re a pedophile. So right now they have a law in Madison, Wisconsin where you can.

The above transcript is generated using AI technology and therefore may contain errors.

Check out our other posts.