#966 – Blade Resisting Arrest | Live Call In

Blade (00:00):

<silence> strict muscle up in years. I’m, I just started my progressions again.

Sevan Matossian (00:04):

Bam. We’re live. I, uh, blade. I want to do, like, I was, uh, Hiller had this, um, uh, thing where, when, when I first met him a couple years ago where he had, he wrote something on the, uh, on the board in his garage that was kind of like a fantasy workout, right? Like workout that he wanted to do but didn’t know he could do. I forget what he called it. And then he eventually did it. And so I wanted to do a workout like that too, like just so Batman that was, say it. Oh, is that what it was called? Batman. Okay. So I was thinking, oh, I should do something like that too. And I thought, oh, mate, what if I could do 10, um, uh, 20 snatches with a hundred pound dumbbell, like right hand, left hand, one muscle up, 10 rounds?

Blade (00:46):


Sevan Matossian (00:46):

You know what I mean? Just like, yeah. I mean, it, it’s just a party trick kind of, but for me, it would be crazy. And so I was working my way up training to do a hundred pound dumbbell snatch, and then I was lowering the 70 slow once, and something happened in the bicep. So it kind of derailed me like six months ago. But I think I might, I’ve been taking those peptides. And then I had a massage from Andrew Hillary, came over to the house and gave me a shirtless massage and shit. <laugh>.

Blade (01:12):

That’ll do it.

Sevan Matossian (01:13):

Everything seems to be back on track.

Blade (01:16):

That’ll do it. <laugh>,

Sevan Matossian (01:18):

Good to see you. How are things,

Blade (01:20):

Man? Well, good to see you too. And man, things are great, bro, to be honest.

Sevan Matossian (01:25):

Uh, you’re safe. Everything’s safe. It’s a good life.

Blade (01:28):

Yes, yes. Things are safe. Everything’s safe. And then like, I, like, you know, already I’m very easily entertained, and so I just find light in the little things. Like, for example, I don’t know if you remember exact, the exact layout, but this used to be a, a heavy bag. Now it’s a folding, one of those folding racks.

Sevan Matossian (01:48):


Blade (01:49):

The heavy bag was taking up a little bit too much space, and then it also allowed room for a skier.

Sevan Matossian (01:55):


Blade (01:56):

Yeah. See, so it’s the little thing. So now, now I’m really, now I can really tear it up in the, in the Blade Academy. That’s what my neighbor named <laugh>. So my neighbor named the gym

Sevan Matossian (02:06):

<laugh>, uh, for, for, for those of you who, um, uh, don’t know, this is the third time, I think a third time Blade’s been on the show. Yeah. Uh, blade is, uh, northern, uh, California. California is a state on the, uh, north American continent on the west side facing the Pacific Ocean. And, uh, blade is a, uh, police officer in that state, in the, in the, in the northern area, um, I guess you could say within a hundred miles of me. And, uh, we met through, we’ve just met through the podcast, right?

Blade (02:39):


Sevan Matossian (02:40):

Yeah. And, and, and you’re a CrossFitter?

Blade (02:43):

I am is, yeah. For, since I started for in 2000, 2009.

Sevan Matossian (02:50):


Blade (02:50):

Wow. That, that, that was mainly CrossFit football. It was just for off season training. But then after my senior season, I didn’t make it to the league. And then 2010, you know, started CrossFitting with, uh, do you know, do you remember Gabe Suby?

Sevan Matossian (03:04):

I do. Yeah, I

Blade (03:05):

Do. He was my first, he was my first coach. Him and Garrett Fisher were like my, and there was a cat named Vince Carter, my first training partners. And, uh, Gabe told me, Gabe and Vince, they ran CrossFit 2 0 9 sport. It, they told me, you could either pay and come in like with regular people, or you could come train with us at 10 and at two for free. And I was like, alright, let’s run it. <laugh>.

Sevan Matossian (03:32):

Uh, and here it’s, if you don’t know who Gabe Suby is, everyone in, uh, everyone who owns a gym in California knows who, uh, Gabe Suby is. He has a 50,000 square foot, probably the largest CrossFit gym in the world by far. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe it’s even bigger than 50,000 square feet. It is massive. It is a beautiful facility with, uh, uh, indoor, uh, outdoor turf, a massive, massive, uh, clientele. And, uh, easily, uh, in his day, uh, top 50 Fitness man walking around on, um, on Planet Earth. Oh, yeah, there’s the gym. Yeah, I think two meter track inside

Blade (04:09):

That gym. Yeah. So that what that is, yeah. So it has like a, I think it’s 60 yards. It has like 60 yard turf surrounded by a 200 meter indoor track. And that’s just like this part. And then this part has basketball. No, not Vince Carter, the basketball player, just, uh, he run, he runs a, a youth sports program called Elevate is, is pretty cool. But, um, and then on this part you have that like, so that bottom right picture, you have like the pull up, a big old pull up rig and open floor, and then in between what you’re looking at and the track is this like big, um, kind of auxiliary area with a basketball hoop and storage. And then further over you have their big ass muscle up rig and specialty area with like bench and chains and another pull up bar and this area to do stuff. It’s, it’s <laugh>. It’s pretty cracking.

Sevan Matossian (05:11):

And, uh, it’s quite the eclectic crowd there. Uh, everyone obviously you see Blade worked out there. Uh, and then, uh, other people like the Diaz brothers and the Diaz Academy mm-hmm. <affirmative>, uh, uh, famous u f c fighters amongst shitloads of other people who take their fitness very seriously. And those who don’t have worked out there, I think I went there for his 10th anniversary with Greg. I think we, uh, we visited and, and mm-hmm. Oh, Gabe Gabe’s a beautiful man with a beautiful wife. Yeah. And a, a very, looks like

Blade (05:45):

That Jason Stamm.

Sevan Matossian (05:46):

Yes. All that <laugh>. Yes. Yes. <laugh>. And they, they run a beautiful community over there. Hey, did you, how far was that commute to go there?

Blade (05:55):

Oh, I, I live on the same street. It’s on something called Eight Mile Road. Now. It’s a long ass road,

Sevan Matossian (06:01):

But its Oh, okay. I didn’t know you were from there. Okay. Okay.

Blade (06:04):

Um, we were at the same party. Didn’t even know.

Sevan Matossian (06:06):

Oh, oh, <laugh>. Okay. Alright.

Blade (06:09):

Yeah, because I, because I met Glassman. He’s cool. I met Glassman. And being that you were at that party Yeah. It wasn’t the same damn party.

Sevan Matossian (06:17):

Yeah, it was the same. It was, was the same party. The place is so huge. You’d be so easy to miss you. <laugh>.

Mattew Souza (06:22):


Sevan Matossian (06:23):

The place is huge. I

Mattew Souza (06:24):

Used to on the left wing the whole time,

Blade (06:26):


Sevan Matossian (06:29):

And, and then, uh, uh, and then, um, what year did you become a refresh me? What year did you become a police officer?

Blade (06:34):

2015. That was when I, that was when I joined the academy. I hit the streets early 2016, like in March.

Sevan Matossian (06:43):

So you’re nine years in

Blade (06:46):

Damn there. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (06:47):

<laugh>. Yeah. Yeah. Coming to, yeah. Okay. That

Blade (06:50):

Just sound weird. Like I almost said, I almost said, nah, <laugh>,

Mattew Souza (06:54):

Take a pause for a minute there. He’s like, oh shit.

Sevan Matossian (06:58):

Hey. Um, uh, blade, um, I, um, uh, I, I had Julie Gentry on the show years ago, uh, CrossFit Games Champion from 2007. Uh, she’s got 20 years in down in I, I don’t know, like Fremont area. Mm. Uh, she was a cop. And then she did swat, and then I think now she got like promoted to like a desk job. But she was telling me it takes three years in a position as a police officer to like really settle in and know the ropes. What do you think about that?

Blade (07:29):

Yeah, that sounds about right. Like, I’ve heard three, three to five is like that ballpark. Because you know, when, when you start the first, what, first six months to a year, you’re just chasing your tail. Like, like shit’s happening. Then you’re processing it, then you’re fucking up on your report, and then it, then it starts to go, okay, shit’s happening and I’m processing it. But then you’re still fucking up on your report, <laugh>. And then when things finally come together, then some shit happens that you ain’t never seen before. And then you don’t know what the fuck to do. <laugh> then, then you learn how to deal with that kind of situation, and then you learn how to delegate because you have to un Yeah, there’s a lot of undoing from when you were on training. When you’re on training, it’s, they need you to learn how to do this.


And so you, it’s a lot of people just, okay, what you gonna do Ru? But then after that, after you get the ropes a little bit, then you, then teamwork is a little bit more encouraged. They don’t let you drown. You know, they, like, their goal is to keep you from getting sued or keep you from getting killed. As long as they don’t break one of those thresholds, it’s like, all right, time to learn. Kinda like when your kid’s doing something that you knows them, but it’s just gonna kind of hurt ’em a little bit. You’re like, Hey, they, they might have to learn this one on their own.

Sevan Matossian (08:48):

Um, being a cop reminds me of, uh, being a doctor, a lawyer, or a, uh, CrossFit gym owner. People are always like, Hey, a two day course isn’t, Hey, good morning, SU Sorry, good morning, Matt <laugh>.

Blade (09:01):

Did you just <inaudible>?

Sevan Matossian (09:03):

Yeah, I just saw you. Uh, people say, people say, Hey, it’s not enough training. It’s not enough training. The point is, with being a cop or a doctor and a lawyer or a, um, a gym, uh, a CrossFit gym instructor, you just have to have experience. No one’s graduating from law school even after four years. They have no fucking idea what they’re doing. No one’s leaving the academy knowing what they’re doing. No one’s, no one’s finishing med school knowing what they’re doing. It’s like, Hey, dude, you, we, it’s, it’s part of the, um, it’s part of the, uh, it’s just the way life works. People need experience. People need on the job training.

Blade (09:40):


Sevan Matossian (09:41):

Another one of my friends, and I guess you’re lucky here, by the way, you were raised another one of my friends who’s a cop, is like, Hey, dude, it’s so weird being a cop is really just about talking to people. Oh. And I go, really? And he goes, yeah, dude, it’s all personal skills. And he goes, and he goes, I think that’s one of the biggest problems we have. I said, why? He goes, because we have the least naturally qualified people in the history of mankind at talking to people. And, and it does seem like that. I see a lot of young sheriff in my area, I’m in Santa Cruz, who almost seem adverse to talking to people.

Blade (10:13):

It’s, it’s a lot, a lot of talking to people like you, you want to be prepared to protect yourself and do things like that. But there’s a lot of times where just a, a good mouthpiece, you know, good talking skills, just whether you need to be smooth, whether you need to be stern, finding the difference, reading the room kind of could fix a lot of things. You know what I mean?

Sevan Matossian (10:40):

Oh yeah. Yeah. Fir first, first contact is huge.

Blade (10:46):


Sevan Matossian (10:47):

First. I mean, first contact is I, I’ve seen, I used to go to school at uc, Santa Barbara, and I would see some cops the second they entered an area, it would escalate, the kids would get agitated, and then there were other cops who entered the area and they could disarm people. Yeah. It, it was, it was, it was amazing. It was an amazing, um, skill. I I, I don’t mean to, uh, um, I don’t mean to put this on women, but what I would notice with women cops is they would be a little more standoffish or try to use like a man voice or like try to like, and that while trying to overcompensate for maybe being a woman, they would always like set the kids off then like they, the, the people would see it as kind of like a challenge. I just remember these cute cop, because there were, those were beat cops in, in Isla Vista. I went to school, everyone was on feet on foot, and they would walk around and it was a really densely populated area. And it’s like, and then the old man cop, he was just chill


<laugh> like, Hey, what are you kids doing? And it would just, you know what I mean? Like he had learned

Blade (11:42):


Sevan Matossian (11:43):

You know what I mean? And they just saw grandpa.

Blade (11:45):

Oh, there’s def there’s definitely a lot of things you learn when it comes to, you know, talking with finesse. Yeah. Or having to be, having to be a hard ass, you know. And some, some people, like, when it comes to, like, when you said overcompensating, what, what do they call that? They call that, uh, little man syndrome. No, I guess it could be little person syndrome.

Sevan Matossian (12:06):

Hey, careful, careful, careful, careful.

Blade (12:07):

Add all, like, I guess it could be, uh, little person syndrome. I, I’m not even sure what the term is these days. You gotta keep

Sevan Matossian (12:13):

Up Short man’s complex. I think. Short,

Blade (12:15):

Short man, complex

Sevan Matossian (12:15):

King. He’s not ever talked about that again. Short, short king. Short king.

Mattew Souza (12:20):

What guys? No offensively

Blade (12:22):

Short kings and queens. Well, what, what, whatever it may be though, like, I think we talked about this a couple times ago, but this, it goes into overcorrecting, you know, like rather than <laugh>, rather than over overcorrecting, just maybe bump it up a little bit. But every, everything’s dynamic because talking to people is very important. No matter what you do. If you, if you’re a teacher, you need to learn how to relate to your students. Uh, it dyna it’s dynamic every year, every class, whatever mood they’re in, whatever’s going on at home. But it’s just unfortunate because when you’re out on the streets, the stakes are a little higher and, uh, a little more dynamic and more dangerous, you know.

Sevan Matossian (13:05):

Um, Caleb High. I just saw you back there too. What’s up dude? <laugh> Damn

Caleb Beaver (13:12):

<laugh>. You got any notes?

Sevan Matossian (13:15):

Hey, no, I don’t have any notes. Hey, blade, who should, um, who should become a cop?

Mattew Souza (13:21):

Oh, good question.

Blade (13:22):

Ooh, it be like the type of personality?

Sevan Matossian (13:27):

Yeah, the like, like,

Blade (13:30):


Sevan Matossian (13:31):

Let, let’s, let’s say the meaning in life, let’s say the meaning in life is to give yourself purpose. Right? Right. Let’s say like, you wake up in the morning and, and you, and you just, you, you wanna have, you wanna have purpose. ’cause that kind of makes it so is Glassman told me one time, if you have purpose, you can’t, you don’t get sick. Right? And, um, yeah. Purpose and, and, and gives you, you’re excited to wake up in the morning. What kind of person can find purpose in being a police officer,

Blade (13:56):

Right? And so, um, well, in today’s climate, it could be one of those be the change you wanna see in the world type people, you know? Because that’s something like

Sevan Matossian (14:11):

Almost a religious man or a spiritual man. A man of high values.

Blade (14:16):

Person of high values. That’s a great one. ’cause in integrity’s, pretty much all you got, like, if, if you get caught lying on a police report or something, or even just lying around the department, that could be, that could be curtains for you. Because then, man, I’ll tell you what, lawyers, boy, them, them boys will light your ass up in court. <laugh>.

Sevan Matossian (14:36):

Well, not even for that reason. How will you live with yourself? You don’t want to be in a job. Like, I tell my kids, I was playing tennis with my kid the other day, and I, I hit a ball and it went in and he called it out and I walked up to the net and he goes, I go, Hey, dude, that looked like that was in. And he goes, Hey, it’s my call. And I go, I know it’s your call, but I’m afraid that if you’re not telling the truth that the rest of the game that’s gonna be fucking in your mind, he’s six. Right? I’m like, that’s gonna be in your fucking mind, and you’re gonna have to be guarding that lie. Instead of like, tr trying to beat me. He’s like, it was in, I said, you’re smart. Yeah. You don’t wanna have to guard. You don’t have to go to work every day or finish the game protecting a lie. Right? You don’t wanna be in it. I tell ’em all the time. I said, if you anywhere you lie, then when you’re in Jiujitsu and you’re in a fight with another kid, instead of being able to give, beat that kid up, you’re gonna be like, protecting a lie. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> don’t waste any energy protecting lies. It’s stupid.

Blade (15:26):

And that shit, it gets hard. Like if you lie, then you have to, you know, put, put a little dirt over that and then uhhuh, you gotta put more dirt over that pile, then sweep that under the fridge, and then <laugh>, then you get, then you caught up, then, then you stuck. Especially somebody, did they do that in the academy? Uh, about Oh

Sevan Matossian (15:47):

Yeah. Like, like on a deep level. I mean, I, I’m sure they say, Hey, you can’t lie. Or, but on a deep, does anyone go on a deeper level with it? Like, gentlemen, you have to have integrity. Gentlemen, this will set you free, gentlemen, this will leak over into the rest of your life. Gentlemen, here’s some practices to work on your integrity. I just, is it, is it deeper than just a rule? You know what I mean? Because these are things people don’t tell you. People like, don’t lie, it’s wrong. It’s like, no, there’s some real practical reasons to fucking not lying.

Blade (16:14):

Right. I haven’t gotten talked to about the how it could eat you from the inside. Yeah. Or like on a spiritual level Yeah. Or anything like that. But there was a, some brass talk to me about it just before I even went into the academy. Just on how, you know, the snowball effect of it on, on how it could just eat you alive and lead to another thing. Or just think about it like not, or whether lions stealing, they’re very close to each other. You know, we deal with a lot of drugs. We deal with a lot of money. And so, oh fuck man, a hundred dollars ain’t bad. This man, this dope dealer, this dope dealer got how much, how much cash? Well, this, this, this money, this money won’t be missed. It’s just gonna go here anyway. Booked into evidence held here, or man, he’s gonna post bail and have somebody get this money back from ’em. Anyway. A hundred dollars won’t hurt. A thousand dollars won’t hurt. Whatever it may be until it does that. That’s kind of my rebuttal answer is until it does or until it do. Until you don’t. And that kind of keeps me, keeps me in the loop. Keeps me in the game.

Sevan Matossian (17:20):

Um, ma Matt did, uh, I’ve, I’ve Matt Burns, uh, would Seon make a good cop? We know he likes to call him. Isn’t Matt Burns the one whose wife we’re supposed? We’re we’re going to, uh, promote her products. Smart move Matt. That way. Keep fucking with me. <laugh>. Keep fucking with me. No, no, I’m just joking. Hey, Matt, I do wanna get in contact with your wife. We got, um, by the way, and I’m very excited about, um, uh, we’ll, we’ll help promote her stuff, by the way. Um, no problem. You’re, you’re a great listener. Speaking of the cops, I do call the cops a lot. I called the cops last week. I walked into the bathroom at the skate park in, uh, Aptos, uh, California. And there was a crack pipe in there, and I could have easily just picked the crap pipe up and threw, threw it, threw it away. But I called the cops because I wanted the cops to know that that shit’s going on there.

Blade (18:07):


Sevan Matossian (18:08):

Right, right. And, and the guy came and he was cool shit. And we talked, um, right or wrong, you think like, these guys in the comments just want to call me a pussy all the time. <laugh> the cops. And you know what, there was a, there was a time in my life where I hated cops and I, and I had it like that was one of my vows is to never call the cops, handle everything on my own. But I’m not like that anymore. I see a cop, I walk up and I’m like, Hey, thank you for, I have three boys, and it’s you guys wandering the streets. Make me feel safe. Um, did I do the right thing? I saw a crack pipe in the bathroom and call the cops.

Blade (18:37):

Yeah. I’d say, I’d say you did the right thing.

Sevan Matossian (18:39):

Oh shit. You’re just saying that ’cause you’re on my show. I don’t, I’m believe you <laugh>.

Mattew Souza (18:43):

He’s like, fuck, I gotta deal with this when you shut up. Throw it away, man.

Blade (18:46):

<laugh>. So

Sevan Matossian (18:50):

Don’t you guys wanna know? Don’t you have to like, don’t you wanna know that there was a crack pipe in like, in your area so that like, you could be like, okay, and then you like mark it somewhere. The 18th crack pipe found in this bathroom this week or some shit. <laugh>.

Blade (19:01):

Yeah. So, so your, your reason, your reason for calling is what kind of saved you because like you’ve, you’ve dealt with and seen a lot of things.

Sevan Matossian (19:11):

<crosstalk>, tons of my friends used to have crack pipes. I used to smoke weed out of a crack pipe. I never smoked crack outta it, but I used to smoke weed outta it.

Blade (19:17):

Hold on My damn motion sensor draw little bit <laugh>. Lemme, I should, I should, let me grab a little here.

Sevan Matossian (19:25):

It’s fine.

Blade (19:26):

Yeah. I’m gonna grab this and just do this every once in a while. <laugh>,

Sevan Matossian (19:30):

Do you have kids Blake?

Blade (19:30):

My daughters grab my daughter’s little wad toy.

Sevan Matossian (19:32):

Oh shit. You do have kids. Okay.

Blade (19:34):

I got got three, three of them.

Sevan Matossian (19:37):


Blade (19:38):

Yeah. But all, but anyway, so initially I was like, like depending on who it is,

Sevan Matossian (19:45):

Uh, hold on one second. Look, I wanna look at how, uh, Kenzie, no, Sevan would not make a good cop with peace and love. It’s a no dog all,

Blade (19:52):

Hey, hey. So interesting. Let me, let me attack that. Never seen

Sevan Matossian (19:55):

Her before. Okay. Go.

Blade (19:56):

You would be, I think you’d be surprisingly with what? Just with your life experience, you’d be surprisingly relatable. Now there’s more than just that, that goes into being a cop. But I think you’d manage better than a lot of people think off top. But then when it came to the things you have to do, <laugh>, I don’t, I’m not sure how you, I’m not sure how you deal. You seem

Mattew Souza (20:22):

A good volunteer cop. Like a good junior cop.

Blade (20:25):

<laugh>. Yes. <laugh>. Like one of them.

Sevan Matossian (20:29):

Oh, I’m gonna get you back for that blade. I got something for you Blade. I always come armed to these shows. I got something for you. So, so wait a second. Let’s go back to that. Did I not, did I not, should I not have called about the crack pipe? Should I just picked it up and thrown it away myself?

Blade (20:44):

No, it, it, it’s not, but it, it’s actually, it’s actually a good idea to call because if if it, if you didn’t document it, it didn’t happen. Yeah. Yeah. Now my, my the fact that somebody could have responded that, that’s cool because it’s worse when you call and then you expect us to be there in 12 seconds, not knowing what else is going on in the, in the city. Yeah. Or what may be going on. Period.

Sevan Matossian (21:07):

I didn’t even expect them to show up. And they did show up like within minutes, but I didn’t even expect them to show up.

Blade (21:12):

And so, so just for the fact that you, the reason you called is cool because you know, you want documented and who knows five years down the road, like, look, if we pull up these, how, how many drug related calls do we have at a skate park? Is this skate park’s supposed to be this? And no, we’re not talking your innocent weeded type stuff. We’re talking, look, we have 76 fentanyl, fentanyl related incidences. 22 of those we’re overdoses and we have eight year old kids coming here. You know, things

Sevan Matossian (21:44):

Like that. Well, I could have saved some kid’s life is what you’re saying.

Blade (21:47):

Yeah, yeah. Down the road possibly. You never know what, where these ripples lead to. Mm-hmm.

Sevan Matossian (21:53):

Okay. Lemme tell you about these other co Okay, so that was, that was two weeks ago. Lemme tell you last week when I, when I called the cops, little different, little different. Well, I’m destroying my reputation here. Uh, Matt Burns, uh, I’m right here, there with you. Sebi. I had a disdain for cops while in college, uh, when I was arrested many times. Yeah. I was arrested a shitload of times. I was held fucking a hundred times in my life. I was, had to sit on a curb somewhere. Um, uh, so I was at this other skate park in Santa Cruz, different skate park. And I got there early in the morning. Uh, not that early, nine 30. Uh, it’s a tough skate park, but if you go in the morning, there’s no, none of the tough guys are there. So I take my kids there in the morning and I fucking pull up and there’s a dude fucking cleaning needles in the fucking drinking fountain.

Blade (22:37):


Sevan Matossian (22:38):

Lord. And I gotta fucking walk by ’em with my kids, right? Oh. So, so I don’t call the cops, but five minutes later I see there’s a canal road that runs alongside the, uh, the, the, the skate park. Mike Fox Skate park. And there’s, uh, three patrol cars on the, on the canal trail coming by slowly. And the guys are looking for something. So I run over there against the chain link fence. I go, Hey dudes. They’re like, Hey, what’s up man? I said, Hey, I just saw, uh, a dude cleaning, uh, needles in the drinking fountain over here. And then they came down and around and of course I had a picture of him. ’cause I snapped a picture of the dude and I showed ’em to him, and they said, yeah, no problem. We’ll keep our eyes open for him. Thank you. What about that was that? Okay, listen, people, you assholes don’t judge me. I’m making myself vulnerable. Vulnerable

Blade (23:22):


Sevan Matossian (23:24):

What do you think about that one?

Blade (23:26):

But yeah. Oh, especially since you’re just like, oh yeah. Hey, just, just a heads up. You know,

Sevan Matossian (23:33):

Just a heads up. Like, Hey, what’s up? And I just thanked them for what they do. Just a heads up. Yeah.

Blade (23:37):

Yeah. Not the end of the world. The, the part that sucks is like,

Sevan Matossian (23:42):

About these guys judging me for fucking ha being friends with the cops. <laugh>, that part sucks. <laugh>

Blade (23:46):

Sucks. <laugh>. I know. They’re,

Sevan Matossian (23:51):

I’m even feeling a little bit of from you Blade, you’re like, he’s a snitch <laugh>

Mattew Souza (23:56):

That just, you’re just projecting someone. It’s all good.

Sevan Matossian (23:59):

We love. Okay. All right. Thank you Caesar. All right. I see ca I see Caleb even there kind of pushing us away from the chair. What? I didn’t know I was with a snitch. Do your,

Blade (24:07):


Mattew Souza (24:08):

Community leader.

Blade (24:10):

So my <laugh> community

Sevan Matossian (24:12):

Leader, I like that. I need a shirt. Travis <laugh>.

Blade (24:15):

It, it, it’s just, so when you, when you we’re out there, we, we, we do and see so many things that the normal person shouldn’t see. And so some of it we forget is like a, a big deal to people. Now, to you, it’s not the biggest deal. You’re just trying to love, no, you’re trying to keep things safe, but you forget that, oh man, Susie’s never seen a crack bite before. She, like this, this might have jarred her whole world. <laugh>. She, oh my god. <laugh>. You know, you know what I mean? It’s, uh, sometimes it, it’s, it’s easy to forget that. And quite frankly, unfortunately, uh, a needle in and of itself, not a crime, right? Uh, a a a glass pipe in and of itself, not a crime. Now it’s the, it’s the stacking of these things, of these coincidences. Like, oh, you just have to have a glass pipe with that substance in it, with bird marks, uh, things with this certain smell. Things like that, that make it a crime. And so a lot of the times people will be, oh, hey, just so you know, there’s a, there’s a guy sitting behind there with his sleeping bag. It’s like, okay. And then they expect you just lights on <laugh>.

Sevan Matossian (25:40):

Hey. And for all I know, that guy was just a fucking type two diabetic.

Blade (25:44):

Right? Right. And so, and so sometimes it’s like, all right, well cool. Thank you for letting us know. And then we gotta keep it moving from there. ’cause especially in the current state we’re in, um, let me think about how you, you just have to tread carefully on a situation. ’cause a lot of times if things happen, even if you, even if you’re doing your best just to keep people safe and something just gets thrown, a a a, something gets thrown in your lap, a soup sandwich gets thrown in your lap, then you might be holding a l more than just, oh, I got put on paid leave, or I got put on days on the beach. You know, that’s unpaid leave. You know, it might be a situation where you’re getting, where your family’s situation, your ability to put food on the table, your ability to not be in jail are affected.


You know, like things, things are changing. It’s, um, witch hunt might be aggressive. So I’m not saying it, it is like kind of a witch hunt. ’cause sometimes, you know, these wrongs need to be righted on a serious level. But to say that a target, it doesn’t feel like a target’s on our backs a little bit bigger than ever before. I think I’m speaking for myself that, that seems accurate. Oh, I forgot my little disclaimer. There’s everything I say this podcast is I do not represent all police officers all everywhere, all swat or anything like that.

Sevan Matossian (27:15):

You just represent yourself,

Blade (27:17):


Sevan Matossian (27:19):

Uh, um, uh, there’s a shortage of police officers, right?

Blade (27:23):

Yeah. So it used to be like, when, when I got in, it was, it was hard to see who was hiring. It was hard to find places hiring. It was like, God dang. Or then you would put in places and you would go to test, and then you’d be in a full on cafeteria with a bunch of seats, you know, almost elbow to elbow taking tests. Now, I haven’t been in any of any of those, but it, it is been a long streak of people hiring people, um, or people moving things like that. People are laterally out depending on the city. Now I’m, I’m fortunate enough to work in a city where our community appreciates us and, and we kind of reflect each other. Well, now, just like every city, there’s some Ls, you know, we hold some Ls, things like that. But I work in a place where the community, the officer engagement is pretty, pretty solid. But there’s, there’s other places where it’s not like that. And like I said, now if you, if you mess up, it could be not just you getting in trouble, getting, getting slapped, uh, on the wrist at work. It could be some serious stuff. And so when you weigh that risk and reward and it doesn’t quite line up, then people are like, fuck, they shut. I’m out. <laugh>.

Sevan Matossian (28:41):

Yeah. Well, the thing is, the thing is, is you’re putting your, you, you, you want society to have your back because you’re putting so much at risk. So you put in life and death situations and you’d like a, I would, like, I’m not, I shouldn’t speak for you. I would like society to give cops way more room and, and patience and, um, compassion since they, since they’re putting themselves in so many high pressure situations, day in and day out from the second they wake up from the second they put their fucking gun on their, on their hip. Just like you said. Um, uh, uh, you know, Susie, Joe might see a crack pipe and she’s never seen one before. That’s like 90% of people. But I, 95% of the population, you could pull out your revolver and touch them with the butt of it, and they would faint. That’s how scared they are of guns. And yet they want, they, we need you to strap that thing fucking to you and be responsible for it while you walk around on the streets. It’s crazy.

Blade (29:38):

It’s a, it’s a, it’s a slippery slope because I almost feel like there is necessary for there to be a respectful level of fear. Not just like a bull, not a bully level of fear, like from an intimidation standpoint, but just like, Hey, this person’s locked in, this person’s squared away. Um,

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