#964 – Sara Sigmundsdóttir | The Next Chapter

Sevan Matossian (00:00):

Maybe it’s more like, well, bam, we’re live. It’s weird if you, if you only have 1% chance of doing something and then it goes up to 10% chance, that’s like a thousand percent increase, right?

Sara Sigmundsdóttir (00:15):

Yeah. Gets the juices flow a little bit. Yeah. E excited.

Sevan Matossian (00:21):

I don’t interrupt the fuck are you talking about? Hi Lauren, how are you, Ms. Lewis, how are you? Good to see you. Are those your sons you’re standing with? Thank you for coming and joining us at the Savon podcast. Extra slop. Hi. We’re out here. Let’s go. There she is.

Speaker 3 (00:42):

I’m here and I’m on time.

Sevan Matossian (00:44):

Wouldn’t expect anything else.

Speaker 3 (00:46):

No, exactly.

Sevan Matossian (00:48):

Wouldn’t expect anything else. The show. Uh, hi Sarah.

Speaker 3 (00:53):

Can you hear me?

Sevan Matossian (00:54):

I can. Oh,

Speaker 3 (00:56):

Hi Sarah.

Sevan Matossian (00:57):

Um, the, the show’s gotten like, um, I realized how, uh, like I’ve just, the show’s either gotten so big or I don’t give a shit, or I’m so confident that now that when guests, when guests used to not show up, it used to freak me out. But now I’m kind of like, I’m like, I, it’s cool. Like I, there’s other shit I can do, like, you know what I mean? Like, I can juggle or ride a unicycle or like floss my teeth or do some shit.

Speaker 3 (01:22):

I’m completely lost what you’re talking about here.

Sevan Matossian (01:25):

Oh, good. Okay. Even better.

Speaker 3 (01:27):

Unicycle sounds very exciting though.

Sevan Matossian (01:30):

Can you ride a unicycle?

Speaker 3 (01:31):

No, but I think I’m gonna add it to my list. Do you have faith in me?

Sevan Matossian (01:37):


Speaker 3 (01:38):

That’s good. Then I’ll definitely add it to the list.

Sevan Matossian (01:41):

Uh, fly a plane.

Speaker 3 (01:43):

Yeah. Sail a boat.

Sevan Matossian (01:46):


Speaker 3 (01:47):

Yeah, barefoot, of course. Have dreadlocks while I sail a boat.

Sevan Matossian (01:51):

Hmm, hmm.

Speaker 3 (01:52):

And be able to unicycle,

Sevan Matossian (01:55):

You know, I think sort of, you and I have, um, similar fantasies.

Speaker 3 (02:01):

Yeah. <laugh>.

Sevan Matossian (02:03):

Yeah. I see myself living in a place, um, uh, just like shorts. Nothing really. No other clothes. Um, barefoot. I don’t care if there’s sand in the bed. Um, Frisbee and breeding and drinking and, and swimming and eating fish out of the ocean and

Speaker 3 (02:29):

Yeah. When you’ve gone spear fishing, right?

Sevan Matossian (02:32):

I have not, but I mean, I I

Speaker 3 (02:34):

Mean, you’ll do that in the future and that’s the fish you’ll be eating, right? Because that’s my Yeah. You know?

Sevan Matossian (02:38):

Yeah. Yeah. A a friend of mine was on a sailboat. He said the, in the Caribbean, the, he said that the chef jumped off the boat, uh, caught. I think it was a tuna, brought it on board, and within 15 minutes they were eating it. They didn’t even cook it. He just, they just had sushi right there.

Speaker 3 (02:53):

See, that’s the dream. That is definitely a dream. And I, I would say that what you just explained is called Byron Bay in Australia.

Sevan Matossian (03:02):

It’s like that there too.

Speaker 3 (03:03):

Yeah. It’s like everybody’s barefoot. It’s like the hippie style.

Sevan Matossian (03:09):

Um, uh, Seban would cry if he spear, spear a fish.

Speaker 3 (03:13):


Sevan Matossian (03:16):

It’s possible. Hey, um, can’t you, Sarah? Um, isn’t there? I don’t, I need to be careful how I word this.

Speaker 3 (03:26):

Oh gosh.

Sevan Matossian (03:29):

I don’t think I can be careful with this

Speaker 3 (03:31):

One. Be nice.

Sevan Matossian (03:32):

It’s very nice. Okay. It’s just gonna be, it’s gonna just be seen as, um, isn’t there someone we will go, okay. I figure it out. Isn’t there someone out there in the world who, part of their courtship to, um, to uh, to uh, to uh, um, uh, live a long, happily life heavily ever after with you? Part of that courtship could be to invite you onto their sailboat, um, to, to experiment with this lifestyle.

Speaker 3 (04:06):

Yeah. Or I create that lifestyle with somebody that has the same interests. That could also be

Sevan Matossian (04:13):

Of, of course. I’m just thinking like, um, uh, yeah. Yeah. That’s why. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. I’m just, I’m just, just, just, yeah. Okay. Okay. Fine. Careful. S I just don’t wanna come across as a, I didn’t mean it in a chauvinistic way, I just didn’t want it to come across as that, even though I don’t think that there’s any way it could not, but, but it’s not chauvinistic,

Speaker 3 (04:35):

It’s just that No, but you’re, you’re describing it like, you know, like Disney movies, they have the princess and the prince always saves the princess.

Sevan Matossian (04:43):

Okay. Okay. Okay. How about this

Speaker 3 (04:45):

Trying to do here? Is that like strong, independent woman who doesn’t need to rely on something else

Sevan Matossian (04:52):

To say, okay. Okay. Okay. But if the But may, maybe that’s your lesson in life to accept that because you’re swimming upstream from it. And you did say in an interview that people wanna be around people who are really, um, living out their lives. And so you are going to be an attractive person to the rest of humanity because you’re really living out your life. You’re pushing into these, I forget exactly how you worded it. You worded it nicely. Um, uh, okay. Sorry. Hold on. Uh, David, uh, Mackel. Sevy. You got this confidence. Okay, here we go. Uh, thank you, David. Um, that you’re gonna attract those kinds of people who have, who have success in other places that might have brought them a sailboat already. Yeah, I dunked that shit.

Speaker 3 (05:34):

Yeah, definitely manifesting it. And like, you know, have you heard about the book and the movie Secret?

Sevan Matossian (05:43):


Speaker 3 (05:43):

Manifesting positivity and then it comes to you.

Sevan Matossian (05:46):

Yeah. I think I read the, the book’s old, right?

Speaker 3 (05:50):

Yeah. It’s very old.

Sevan Matossian (05:52):

I think I read the book in college.

Speaker 3 (05:54):

Yeah. Yeah. It is old then <laugh>, I take it back. I feel guilty.

Sevan Matossian (06:01):

Don’t take it back. Don’t look it. I haven’t shaved all I sh extra shaved to try to avoid the old, the old jokes tonight. I did a little extra shave real quick. You look great. Thank you

Speaker 3 (06:11):

There. Yeah. The secret there. Yes.

Sevan Matossian (06:15):


Speaker 3 (06:16):

Do you believe in that method is the big question.

Sevan Matossian (06:25):

Can I ask you a question before I answer that? I don’t even know if I’ll answer it, but I ask a question. Do you think that people who do have things in their life that they don’t believe that they manifested, that it’s just because they’re not aware of their own thoughts?

Speaker 3 (06:38):

Yeah. A hundred percent.

Sevan Matossian (06:39):

Okay. Um, okay. That’s fair. And then, uh, now I’m gonna ask you a really fucked up question. I’m with you there. Here, what about like the, um, uh, two year old kid who gets cancer?

Speaker 3 (06:51):

That’s exactly why I don’t believe it that much.

Sevan Matossian (06:54):

<laugh>. Oh, and you tricked me. I thought you fully believed it. Okay. Okay, here we go.

Speaker 3 (07:02):

There are thoughts there that I totally agree with, but then they go too far in some areas, and then there’s some explanations that don’t really make sense. Like you say a two year old that gets cancer, it’s just insane and negative, and that’s way out of your control. And he can’t think his way out of cancer, like they’re saying in the book. And that gives people hope that have cancer. That, yeah, like, that’s what I like about the book, is that it brings out the positivity of the things that are negative. And you can look at it pos positively and that can help you. But then the facts that they’re bringing are, so, I don’t, I don’t know how to say it in a nice way, but like, they’re, they’re, they are in facts. They’re more just like stories. And they need more proof to be able to say that. If you think positively when you have cancer, you can heal it. So what about the people that have not survived cancer, but were positive, like those kind of things. So that’s why I don’t completely

Sevan Matossian (08:03):

Believe Oh, that too. I didn’t even see you going that way. Yeah, yeah. Right.

Speaker 3 (08:07):

So it’s that. But,

Sevan Matossian (08:08):

But, but, or they weren’t aware of what they were thinking. They were really thinking negative.

Speaker 3 (08:14):

Yeah, exactly. That could also be, but it’s, uh, it’s, it’s mixed. I, I wouldn’t say that I don’t believe it, and I wouldn’t say that I believe it completely, but I’ll definitely put positivity out in that world and, and try to achieve it.

Sevan Matossian (08:29):

Um, and then there’s also, there’s like just these outside factors like age, for instance. Um, I, I’m not gonna win my dreams of winning Wimbledon are, it’s not. They can’t, you never

Speaker 3 (08:45):


Sevan Matossian (08:46):

Oh shit.

Speaker 3 (08:47):

You never know. You’re

Sevan Matossian (08:48):

Gonna agree with me. I thought you were gonna agree with me.

Speaker 3 (08:51):

You never know what can happen to Juan.

Sevan Matossian (08:53):

Does everyone under, if everyone on the planet under 55 except me died, then maybe I could win Wimbledon. I’m 51. I’d be just beating up on old people.

Speaker 3 (09:02):


Sevan Matossian (09:04):

Uh, hey Sarah, lucky camera straps from Australia. Australia. I have six sailboats in Byron Bay. Um, I would, you can, uh, live on one anytime you want. Wow, that was fast.

Speaker 3 (09:16):

Yeah. I already manifested it.

Sevan Matossian (09:20):

Uh, I love listening to you on the podcast. I think Avon secreted this. Oh, 1499. Wow. Yeah. I secreted Sarah coming on here. I secreted the 1499. Yeah. Um, uh, Jay Hartle, uh, she’s fucking you up today. Sevy. I know. She, it’s, she’s like a basketball player. She keeps like,

Speaker 3 (09:40):

No, no, no.

Sevan Matossian (09:41):

I, she’s got all these faints. I can’t catch her.

Speaker 3 (09:43):

Yeah. Just preparing here of, uh, of the, the questions that’ll get later on.

Sevan Matossian (09:49):

Stay sharp. Stay sharp,

Speaker 3 (09:51):

Mentally prepared. You know,

Sevan Matossian (09:53):

Let’s, uh, let’s start with something in the, in the, uh, physical realm. When I, when I saw the shuttle runs, I thought, I always think that they’re just stupid. I thought that they were just a lazy use of like, just laziness. And it was to get people to run, but you didn’t have a lot of space. And then recently I started playing tennis with my boys and we play a game called short court. And it’s, we play on only half the court and there’s a lot of quick explosive movements. And granted, I am 51, but when I do that, I cannot believe how fast my hamstrings light up. Yeah. I cannot believe it. Every time I shift directions, like if I shift directions, like more than five or six times before one of us scores a point, I’m like, oh shit. Like I have to con be so conscious to like, get my bo ’cause my body starts wanting to refuse to, to do it.

Speaker 3 (10:34):

Do it. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (10:35):

Uh, to what do you feel that, what are your, what are Sarah Sigmund’s daughters sigmund’s dos daughters thoughts on shuttle runs?

Speaker 3 (10:46):

No shuttle. I have mixed thoughts there. I mean, uh, the open test that was what, one mile in total or something in shuttles. I don’t quite support that, but I support what you’re experiencing of like the shuttles as a, as a power test and a sprint test. So definitely support that. But doing 50 shuttles, it is just like, what is that testing? And it’s becomes more of your back because you’re bending down to touch the floor versus it, it’s actually testing your running.

Sevan Matossian (11:20):

I didn’t, uh, I didn’t like that part. No, the touch, the touch the floor part. I think I mentioned that on a couple shows.

Speaker 3 (11:27):

It doesn’t make a lot of sense if you’re testing, running and change the direction. Why would you have to touch, I understand that there’s like some standard, if you’re doing a very fast sprint and everybody has to go over this line and do a burpee or something like that, like something that is the right for everybody but 50 reps in that, it just makes not a lot of sense. And I remember I did the last year’s qualifier that was, uh, 10 to one shuttle sprints, and I remember the clean and jerk were the only things that matter. So you were just literally walking the shuttles so you could have energy and clean and jerk. So like, what is that testing with clean and jerks? Why isn’t there just rowing if you’re testing conditioning or something? So it’s, I have mixed opinions about it, but it depends on what you’re trying to fatigue, what movement is with it that you’re trying to use the shuttle sprints to fatigue the other movement.

Sevan Matossian (12:23):

Are you, do you train shuttle runs?

Speaker 3 (12:25):

I definitely do. ’cause I am horrendous in them.

Sevan Matossian (12:28):

At what part? At the changing the directions.

Speaker 3 (12:31):

Just everything. Like these legs. They weren’t born to run, I tell you that

Sevan Matossian (12:35):

<laugh> a great book. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (12:39):


Sevan Matossian (12:40):

Did you read that book? Speaking Barefoot? Haven’t read.

Speaker 3 (12:42):

What’d you say?

Sevan Matossian (12:43):

You haven’t read it, you said I haven’t read it yet.

Speaker 3 (12:45):

It’s on my list though.

Sevan Matossian (12:46):

Yeah, you’ll love it. I, I did the, um, audiobook.

Speaker 3 (12:49):

Yeah, I’ll definitely do the audiobook too.

Sevan Matossian (12:52):

Yeah, it’s cool fan. It’s a fantastic story. Uh, BJ Penn, 1989 Avon starstruck. Always your stars struck or, I’m stars struck. I’m always starstruck. Yeah. Oh, Sarah’s starstruck. You’re telling me Avon. She’s starstruck. I understand.

Speaker 3 (13:03):

Yeah. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (13:05):

Are you, are you in the city of San Francisco?

Speaker 3 (13:08):

I am. Or I, it’s called San Marino. I’m 30 minutes from San Francisco,

Sevan Matossian (13:17):

San Mateo.

Speaker 3 (13:18):

Oh, that, yeah. San Mateo. No. Uh, yeah. Maybe it is that, it’s like 30 minutes from Santa Cruz.

Sevan Matossian (13:25):

You’re south of San Francisco and you’re north of Santa Cruz? Uh, yes. San I don’t know, Santa Marino. Hold on.

Speaker 3 (13:33):

No, it’s like a new, maybe <laugh>.

Sevan Matossian (13:36):

Wait, new Town? Uh, is it Marin? Marin,

Speaker 3 (13:41):

Santa Marin, uh, Monte Erno.

Sevan Matossian (13:47):

Is that the name of the hotel?

Speaker 3 (13:48):

No, that’s the place.

Sevan Matossian (13:50):

How do I not know that place?

Speaker 3 (13:52):

Yeah, I, I know it’s more than you now.

Sevan Matossian (13:54):


Speaker 3 (13:55):

I’m literally

Sevan Matossian (13:56):

Go, go down to San Jose. Caleb, I think she’s, um,

Speaker 3 (13:59):

I’m 10 minutes from, uh, Los Gatos. So I’ve been training at Jason Khali while I’m here, which is an amazing gym, by the way. It’s been, uh, you find it?

Sevan Matossian (14:13):

I think the is are you staying with a friend?

Speaker 3 (14:17):

No, I’m staying in an Airbnb.

Sevan Matossian (14:20):

Uh, and and how come you’re there?

Speaker 3 (14:23):

Uh, so I am, uh, seeing this guy that’s helping me with, uh, movement, like a movement specialist. So I’m seeing him for about 10 days before the season starts to try, try to get the body sorted. Um, so there wasn’t a lot of availability because the 4th of July, so I had to be pretty far away. So I’m about 30 minutes from, from, uh, Santa Cruz.

Sevan Matossian (14:48):

He, he’s in Santa Cruz?

Speaker 3 (14:49):

Yeah. I

Sevan Matossian (14:52):

How long have you been here?

Speaker 3 (14:54):

4th of July.

Sevan Matossian (14:56):

Wow. Yes. So you’re driving over the 17?

Speaker 3 (15:01):


Sevan Matossian (15:02):

Holy cow.

Speaker 3 (15:03):

It’s amazing. I haven’t seen these many trees like in so long.

Sevan Matossian (15:10):

Yeah. Where there I’m Oh, how’d you find that you went to NC Fitz? Um, yeah,

Speaker 3 (15:16):

I just, I just Google mapped <laugh> across the gym that, that’s close by. And I, that came up and I was like, oh, I might as well go there. I didn’t know. I was like close to the gym. And then, uh, I went to the gym and, and Jason actually messaged me afterwards <laugh>, to welcome me to his. It’s so nice.

Sevan Matossian (15:34):

Yeah. That’s crazy. I, I, uh, I don’t know if it’s my place to do that, but his house is vacant. I actually thought about it. Sorry. I, man, Jay Hartle says invite her over to Greg’s. Yeah. He has a huge house here that’s just empty in Santa Cruz. I probably shouldn’t say that. No. It’s full of people.

Speaker 3 (15:52):

Of people. Yeah. Full of

Sevan Matossian (15:53):

People. Um, uh, what do you, what do you mean you’re here just before the season starts? What season are you talking about?

Speaker 3 (16:00):

Um, CrossFit season.

Sevan Matossian (16:01):

Okay. Tell me, I didn’t know CrossFit had a season.

Speaker 3 (16:03):

<laugh>. Well, you try to have a season here. You, uh, you have a CrossFit game, so you pretty much go from there, right? So the open, the quarters and everything, but, um, well, you can pretty much choose your season out compared to all the good competitions that are on the way also.

Sevan Matossian (16:23):

So for you, the season starts in 10 days?

Speaker 3 (16:26):

Uh, no, my season. Yeah. I would say my season would start around August and that’s, or it’s off season starts now. Like I’ve been taking time off since semis. So before the on season starts or like the, the first week of real training, um, I would say like, it’s probably gonna be around mid, like beginning of August, mid-July.

Sevan Matossian (16:54):

And, and then, and then what are you training for?

Speaker 3 (16:58):

That is the big question. I have so many, many, or like many competitions in mind, so I’m trying to choose, pick and choose here. I’m waiting for, uh, dates for, uh, the qualify for R Invitationals. I really wanna compete there, but, uh, I think they’re in mid-August. So if I just started training again in August, and there are only five that come through, I, I’m not that optimistic about it. The shape I’m in now is, uh, uh, not, uh, not that great. I’ll tell you that. Um, and if not, like, there are some other competitions on the way, like some in Europe and, and I might actually go to Australia this year and train with Caitlyn in off season, so go there in October. So I might do down under, but probably as a team, not, so there’s, there’s a lot, lot of options, but I think it all, like what matters mostly for me now is just getting my body ready for some real training and not have any nickels or anything when I start training. So taking a good off season,

Sevan Matossian (18:10):

Uh, wrist, ribs, knee,

Speaker 3 (18:12):

Uh, <laugh>, well now it’s, uh, after semis, its elbow. I tore, uh, a tendon in my elbow in event six. So I’m on week five now, uh, in recovery. So it, it was a grade two tear, so I didn’t have to have surgery. Very happy with that.

Sevan Matossian (18:34):

Uh, can you show me where it’s at, Sarah?

Speaker 3 (18:36):

My elbow?

Sevan Matossian (18:38):

Yeah, your elbow. Sure.

Speaker 3 (18:40):

I don’t know if you can see it on here, but there’s a gap here.

Sevan Matossian (18:43):

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I totally see that. Yes, I totally see that.

Speaker 3 (18:47):

That’s where it tore. But we’re getting there. So I’m gonna be smart with this and let that heal completely before I can decide what I’m gonna or where I’m gonna compete at. But I definitely wanna do one team and one individual competition.

Sevan Matossian (19:05):

Um, there is a, um, a video of you. It’s a pretty, uh, poignant video. You posted it on your Instagram account right here? Yeah. Uh, it says, I have no words. Some things don’t have an explanation.

Speaker 3 (19:17):


Sevan Matossian (19:18):

And that was workout six. But, uh, if in training you finished it in sub 12 minutes, which would’ve put you in fourth place. Yeah. Instead you, you got, uh, capped and you finished in 56th place. Yeah. It was very interesting because you did not seem to have any trouble climbing up the rope, but coming down the rope,

Speaker 3 (19:37):

I didn’t have any strength on my left coming down. Uh, so I just slipped always when I had to grab with my ride on the way down.

Sevan Matossian (19:46):

And, and there’s footage of you putting your knee on your arm, like trying to rub your arm out.

Speaker 3 (19:51):

Yeah. I was just trying to do something to <laugh> to, to try to get this rope. Like, I didn’t know what I could do on that floor. I was hoping that adrenaline would take me through it, or it was just a very, very heartbreaking experience, to be honest. And it is probably every athlete’s fear that this can happen. And, and that happened and I’m still alive, so I’m happy with that. But it was like, I felt something pop on the way down in the second attempt. Uh, so I wasn’t sure what happened completely. Like it wasn’t that painful <laugh>, but there’s also so much adrenaline going on. So yeah, I didn’t have an explanation of what happened, and I was, before going into that event, these were my two events. I, I haven’t said to, to snore and my friends. So just like Sundays are always my days, and especially with these two workouts, I can’t wait to do them.


And I was in 12th place and I was like, I’m in a good, because I was mostly the, I, I was stressed about the snatches because, uh, impact into squatting has been one of the most challenging parts after a c l tear. So I was very nervous of like doing a Wonder Max snatch after a run, which went very good. So happy with that. But I thought that would be, or like I thought I already had the ticket almost there, and you can, like, that just taught me, you can never be sure of what will happen ever.

Sevan Matossian (21:28):

Um, this, in, in the writeup you write, there’s no explanation.

Speaker 3 (21:32):


Sevan Matossian (21:33):

But there is an explanation, and

Speaker 3 (21:35):

Now there’s an explanation. I did an m r i when I came home just to get it cleared. Like it could have just been a small <laugh>, like a minor, like a, a muscle tear or something, like, very minimal, but it’s the, the muscle junction or whatever it’s called, it’s, it’s completely gone off the tendon. So that’s why I didn’t have any strength.

Sevan Matossian (21:57):

Holy shit.

Speaker 3 (21:58):

Yeah. So, so it’s, it’s good to have an explanation now, but I also <laugh>, I don’t wanna be the one that has excuses of why things go wrong. Like, this just wasn’t supposed to happen this year that I could make it to the games, and my body makes sure of that. So I need to make sure that my body’s ready next year for something like that to never, ever happen again.

Sevan Matossian (22:23):

Um, uh, Jeremy says, uh, so easy to cheer for this lady, all heart <laugh>. Um, how, how did you break your ribs?

Speaker 3 (22:34):

Oof. The first rib I broke from over training. Uh,

Sevan Matossian (22:39):

What year was that?

Speaker 3 (22:40):


Sevan Matossian (22:42):

Okay. I think I knew about that. Okay. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (22:45):

And the second rib I broke was because of a belt that I used at the games. Uh, so I broke my second rib in the warmup before the one rmm, uh, workup across the total.

Sevan Matossian (23:00):

And what, what year was that?

Speaker 3 (23:02):

2018. So I broke the rip in the warmup, uh, and I thought like, okay, I, I felt the crack and I knew that it was broken. I was like, if I don’t release the belt, I’ll be able to finish this event. And then we had the marathon rowing in the evening, and then we had the day off on Thursday, and I just thought, okay, if I can push through this today, then I can make a decision on what’s about to happen. I can’t make anything worse by having a broken rib. Like it’s, it’s not, it’s just painful. And if you’re a crossroad review, you can handle pain. So, uh, so I went, went through that. Um, and then I couldn’t finish the competition on Saturday. I did everything until the last event then. So that was also, that was the most heartbreaking moment before <laugh> event six on semi felons this year

Sevan Matossian (23:55):

Before, before semi-finals this year was what?

Speaker 3 (23:58):

That moment of just having to disqualify from the cross the games because Oh,

Sevan Matossian (24:03):

Oh, okay. Yeah. Besides that. Right. Right. Yeah. And then, and then when you went into event seven, did you know, uh, this year at semifinals, did you know something was wrong with your elbow or you still didn’t know?

Speaker 3 (24:11):

No, I, I knew, but I wanted You suspected.

Sevan Matossian (24:14):


Speaker 3 (24:14):

Yeah. Yeah. I knew I like that gap was right away, or like, I saw that gap in the difference in, in the forearms, but I like it’s one more event and you have off season after that event, you might as well finish.

Sevan Matossian (24:31):

Hey, does that thing attach to this bone here?

Speaker 3 (24:33):

Yeah, it attaches to the, it’s here.

Sevan Matossian (24:37):

That, that little knob? Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (24:41):

It’s uh, it’s actually like all the way in here. Oh, it’s a muscle is called terrace something. I can’t remember quite what it’s called. <laugh>.

Sevan Matossian (24:50):

Okay. I can feel that thing too. It’s like a wire.

Speaker 3 (24:53):

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It’s the muscle close to the wire. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (24:57):

Why do you say your elbow, why don’t you say your bicep?

Speaker 3 (25:00):

Okay. It’s, uh, it’s more lower here. Okay. Like what I feel is the forearm, let’s say that. Okay,

Sevan Matossian (25:06):


Speaker 3 (25:07):

It’s, yeah,

Sevan Matossian (25:08):

I asked because I hurt my bicep, uh, lowering a dumbbell, a snatch. Yeah. Yeah. And, um, and everyone keeps saying, it’s your elbow. And I’m like, no, it’s my bicep. It’s my bicep, but it’s right here. But everyone keeps saying it’s my elbow. And, and, and I’m like, Hmm, I wonder why she says it’s your elbow, but is your, was your pain here?

Speaker 3 (25:26):

Uh, so pronator terrace is what, what I tore

Sevan Matossian (25:31):

God, it’s a fucking mess in that. Oh yeah. Okay. So they all kind of attach there. Yeah. Hey, uh, Caleb, is that arrow pointing to the inside of the arm?

Speaker 3 (25:41):


Sevan Matossian (25:42):

Oh, okay. Yeah. Fuck. I know exactly where that is. All those suckers attached to that thing.

Speaker 3 (25:47):


Sevan Matossian (25:48):

Oh, so but this one, the one that you hurt comes over the top. Yeah. And you got three other ones underneath it.

Speaker 3 (25:54):

Yeah. I don’t know why they didn’t work with me and the road climbs, you know?

Sevan Matossian (25:59):

Yeah. I, and it, it makes sense. It makes sense that, um, uh, it would happen on the way down. Right? Yeah. Because that’s where the,

Speaker 3 (26:08):

That was, I just didn’t, like, I just slipped down and then I was trying to grab with my right, but like, nothing, nothing worked.

Sevan Matossian (26:18):

Um, any other, um, what, what were the, what were there, was this your easy year for you? Besides that, was it a fun year? Was it a No,

Speaker 3 (26:26):

I would definitely say like, like the, the competition was just very interesting. Let’s say that the judges were very, very like, uh, strict and like taking it to a different level of sometimes being a little bit unfair to some athletes. Um, and I don’t know if it was because we were the last weekend then like, like some standards just changed from weekend one, which is very unfair. Like you could see people in pistols balancing by putting one leg behind themselves and then all of a sudden that’s a no rep. So <laugh>, if your other leg goes a little bit behind or to the side, it’s a no rep. But you’re not, like, you’re not used

Sevan Matossian (27:12):

To, you’re not putting your foot down.

Speaker 3 (27:14):

No. Right. So, well, the first weekend, like that’s ma, that makes a huge difference. If you get 10 nops in a pistol, you can do way less burpees. So I would say like those things were very, very, uh, annoying, but there’s just some things you can’t control. And I mean, they’re just trying to put the standard higher of, of it being equal for all, all athletes, but some judges just become extra strict and just are not fair in some areas.

Sevan Matossian (27:46):

And, um, uh, this, uh, hold this guy put on his decoder ring. Uh, Sarah says the judges were strict. I translated it to the judges sucked. <laugh>.

Speaker 3 (27:56):

I wouldn’t say like the judges are there as volunteers and they’re trying, like they’re doing their job to, for us to be able to compete. So like, that’s so respectful and everything, but it’s just very heartbreaking when you put your whole year into one event and then it’s a judge’s call of some things that put you down 10 places or something. Like I remember in the Muscle Up workout, like I had to stop in every moment for about one to two seconds to show control. Well, you see other athletes barely, barely extending. So it’s like you were the unlucky one with that judge. So it’s like the judges need to be on the same page of how strict they are. So it’s equal for all athletes.

Sevan Matossian (28:44):


Speaker 3 (28:45):

Yeah. It needs to be consistent.

Sevan Matossian (28:47):

Are you seeing this thing that they’re talking about, um, uh, in regards to the grips?

Speaker 3 (28:52):


Sevan Matossian (28:53):

<laugh>, have you watched any of that today that’s gone down on social media?

Speaker 3 (28:56):

I haven’t watched anything. I just saw this yesterday and today I actually put grips on and put sweatpants here so they became shorter. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> and the grips go to here, but as soon as they jump to the pool bar, they go above

Sevan Matossian (29:10):

Or like, what do you think about, why don’t they just get rid of grips altogether so they don’t have to worry about it? Yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:15):

I, I don’t understand this

Sevan Matossian (29:16):

A all would you be okay with that if they just got rid of grips?

Speaker 3 (29:19):

I mean, you would just have to deal with it,

Sevan Matossian (29:22):

Right? The guy from the grip company, uh, has even spoke out about it. Yeah. From victory grips

Speaker 3 (29:28):

From Victory, yeah. But it’s, this is why, what benefits are you getting for the grips being a little bit longer than your fingers? I don’t understand. I understand.

Sevan Matossian (29:38):

I don’t understand. I don’t, I don’t think anyone

Speaker 3 (29:40):

Understands it. No. Like, I understand when people rap, uh, like, but I don’t understand. Yeah, exactly. <laugh>. Yeah. I don’t understand what’s going on there at all. Like these new rules and these, yeah, I just, it’s.

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