#963 – Matt Torres & Colton Mertens

Matt Torres (00:00):

<silence> Come on, apple.

Sevan Matossian (00:03):

Oh, my shit’s up. Uh, wow. Wow. Oh, my power must have gone off here. Wow. Okay. Sorry. Got it. Let’s see what’s going on here. I might have to restart my computer. Hold on. What the heck is going on here?

Matt Torres (00:22):

You’re gonna have to reboot.

Sevan Matossian (00:24):

Uh, I don’t know. Let me just, let me just try my, my, um, my something’s wrong with my mic. This whole, uh, road setup. I, I’ve never seen this before. Just turned off. Lemme just turn it on and off. How are you?

Matt Torres (00:35):

Oh, good, man. I was thinking about rebooting,

Sevan Matossian (00:38):

Like you were thinking about what? Say that again.

Matt Torres (00:41):

Rebooting, you know, like, you know, when you reboot your computer, like, all right, let’s start this thing over. Yeah. I have a lot of days as of recently where I’m like, man, I just wanna reboot myself real

Sevan Matossian (00:50):

Quick. Like, take Ayahuasca or something.

Matt Torres (00:54):

<laugh>. Uh, honestly, I, ayahuasca kind of scares me.

Sevan Matossian (00:58):

Yeah, me too. Did you ever used to fuck around with Hallucinogenics?

Matt Torres (01:03):

Yeah, I’ve, I’ve done mushrooms before.

Sevan Matossian (01:09):

It’s kind of, it’s kind of like the reboot, right? Oh, here we go. Oh, yum. Yeah. Here

Matt Torres (01:13):

We go. Oh, we good. Do you sound good in your own ears?

Sevan Matossian (01:16):

Oh, I did for a second. Now it’s gone again. Oh, shoot, shoot, shoot, shoot.

Matt Torres (01:23):

So you’re saying can’t hear

Sevan Matossian (01:24):

Yourself? Lemme leave the studio real quick. Hold on. The show’s all yours. Hold on. Remember, when I leave, the whole world can still see you. Don’t do anything crazy. Pick out a big giant booger or something. Hold

Matt Torres (01:36):

Thanks for a heads up.

Sevan Matossian (01:48):

I apologize for that. I don’t know. What’s, um,

Matt Torres (01:54):

You good?

Sevan Matossian (02:04):

Okay, here we go. Can you hear me again?

Matt Torres (02:07):

Holy smokes. Wow. You sound phenomenal,

Sevan Matossian (02:12):

Matt. We’re basically cousins. I don’t know if he’s talk, she’s talking to you, but, okay. You know her. Jody

Matt Torres (02:17):

Lane. You can’t see the resemblance. Look at us.

Sevan Matossian (02:21):

Oh, yeah, you’re right. No. Uh, hi. Good morning. Thanks for doing this.

Matt Torres (02:27):

Yeah, man, for sure. It’s, it’s a easy morning over here. 10 o’clock.

Sevan Matossian (02:32):

Um, it’s interesting that you say, uh, sometimes some mornings you wake up and you think about a reboot by reboot. How, how deep are you talking about? Like, uh, change your religion, change your life, change your job, change your sex change. Like, how, how, how deep of a reboot? Because when I think of people who wanna do ayahuasca or they want a reboot, it’s, it’s that there’s something that’s nagging you that maybe you want to transcend, right? Like, you wanna be set free from some sort of thought.

Matt Torres (02:56):

Yeah. I can see that. That’s like, that’s like six layers deep. I’m thinking just like mental reboot for the day. You know, it’s like, ah, that, that’s not how I want things to start. Let me, you know, let me just shut everything off real quick and then I’ll turn the day back on.

Sevan Matossian (03:13):

Dude, I say stuff to my wife and my kids daily that I’m wish that I, that sets a tone or a mood that I, that I wish I could have, wish I would not have said that. I wish I could like reboot.

Matt Torres (03:27):

Yeah. I find myself, I probably have, you know, maybe two days a month where I’m like, okay, I, and maybe everyone goes through this, but you’re just like, look, everyone’s getting a short, I’m gonna stick from me today. I have no control of this <laugh>, and it’s just how it’s gonna be.

Sevan Matossian (03:41):

<laugh>. Uh, yesterday it was my, um, my, uh, I, I was sleeping. I was, I, it was 4th of July and I was sleeping by a pool on some patio furniture, and one of my, and I had a, a a t-shirt over my face to block the sun. And my kid came and took the t-shirt off my face, and I said to him, Hey, why did you do that? Why’d you wake me up? And right when I said that, I was like, I should not have said that. Yeah. I broke his little, I broke his little heart. Yeah. Are

Matt Torres (04:06):

You saying, are you saying that, that that darkness in your life while your eyes are closed is better than the smile on your kid’s face at that time?

Sevan Matossian (04:14):

Yeah. I guess that is what I’m saying. What a fucking dumbass, what a dumbass

Matt Torres (04:19):

That’s fuck

Sevan Matossian (04:20):


Matt Torres (04:21):

Matt. That’s, that’s a adult. That’s adulthood right there. Your kid won’t get it until he reaches your age.

Sevan Matossian (04:26):

Yeah. But I, but I should have got it. You’ll

Matt Torres (04:28):

Just, you’ll just mess him up psychologically.

Sevan Matossian (04:31):

Right, right. That’s the kind of shit kids will remember forever. Yeah. You know?

Matt Torres (04:37):

Yeah. Forever. Some just like some wild memories that I have, just like some randomness just traveling around the state and just like, you know, I, you know, you know, the way we grow up is like, this is the only, like, this is, this is what my parents, you know, they’re, this is how they’re supposed to raise me. It’s all we know. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And then as we get older, we’re like, subconsciously we are so fucked by our parents, you know, it’s like, I have no control of these choices that I’m making now, and I have to fight tooth and nail sometimes to decide what’s right and what’s wrong based upon the fact of, you know, what my parents thought was correct growing up.

Sevan Matossian (05:15):

Can you gimme an example? Anything pop in your head? So

Matt Torres (05:19):

I guess, yeah, so the best example would be like, like, like dis uh, your parents disciplining you. Right? I know I grew up in an age where, you know, my parents hit me and fine. Right? So I’m curious now, if, if I get mad and I have this outbursts of like, rage, like an instantaneous just like, oh, like that I just, oh, I just want to hit you. Is that based on the fact that my parents were hitting me when I got in trouble, when I was, when I was a kid? Like, that’s what I’m wondering subconsciously is, is this where it’s coming from? Because I don’t, I don’t see myself as like, you know, someone with a lot of rage, right? Mm-hmm. But if I feel that instant, now, granted, I did play football and that rage was in there at times. You know, when you gotta do something, you know, don’t really have a choice, you gotta hit this guy in the head. And so those are just questions that I ask myself without getting too deep into it, is the things that we do now, and perhaps things that we might see ourselves as, like, that’s not really a positive that I want the world to see my friends or, you know, my family or you know, my athletes. But sometimes you can’t control some of these things subconsciously it’s in there. And, you know, so the question always goes back to, is it something that we naturally just pick up, you know, being raised as a kid,

Sevan Matossian (06:44):

Or, or maybe you can control it, but if you’re like, if, if you’re, you know, uh, to go back to sort of your simple, quick an, um, analogy. If you’re at level six and it comes in, if you have level six awareness and the anger comes in at level five, it’ll control you. But if you’re hanging out at level three and the anger comes in at level five, you’ll see it. And then you could be like, I, I’m not, I’m not grabbing that. You know what I mean? Yeah. Depend depending on where you’re Yeah. My wife would always tell me, just see

Matt Torres (07:15):

The ability to see it, I think is, yeah. Like that control to even see it coming is that’s next level right there, man. Like, you know, you can, you can get places like that. It’s, it’s the ones that you can’t see that just sneak up on you. That’s where things start to get a little troublesome.

Sevan Matossian (07:33):

My wife would tell me that it’s not, it’s not the hitting the kids that’s bad. It’s not the getting angry that’s bad. It’s the fact that you’re teaching your kids that the coping mechanism during a situation is to lose control. That’s what mm-hmm. <affirmative> what? I mean, people just go straight to the fact like, yeah, you shouldn’t fucking hit your kids. Right? Okay, cool. Yeah. Don’t fucking backhand your kid as hard as you can. But she’s saying like, you don’t wanna show you. And, and I, all the coolest people I’ve ever known in my whole life are the people who are in control of mm-hmm. <affirmative> of, of themselves, right? Yeah. They’re cool motherfuckers. Right?

Matt Torres (08:06):

Yeah. It’s funny that you say that, like trying to figure it out on your own. So someone brought this up to my attention, it may have been my sister. She said, A lot of people use, uh, fitness as their therapy and their outlet, and it’s like, you have to be able to figure your shit out on your own without having to go do something, uh, you know, outside of your body to make, to heal the things that’s happening inside of your body, right? So they’re almost using fitness as their crutch, even though it could, you know, give you all these great things, you know, um, healthy this and physical bad and, and whatnot. But at the end of the day, you can’t use fitness to forget about or to help you get through, uh, without really being able to say, you know, I figure this shit out on my own.


Like, I gotta look myself in the mirror and figure out these problems and figure out the, the solutions to these things. Um, and it reminded me like when you said that just now about, you know, handling your, how, how you’d want your kids to handle it. That’s what it reminded me of. And, you know, we live in this world fitness right? All around us. Uh, you and I, uh, were, you know, we see it all the time. And I mean, even take it a step further, as a gym owner, I used to think people came into my gym because they wanted to be fit for whatever reason. Like, you fill in the blank why they came in for fitness. And what I started noticing is that people were actually escaping things like alcoholics, uh, you know, trauma, uh, you know, um, something in the relationship.


It’s, and they were using fitness to step away from that, to help them forget those things. Uh, and I really didn’t start noticing, and I’m not saying everyone was doing that, but there, there was a lot of people that were doing it, um, where it’s like, okay, that’s a good thing, but at what point is it something where it’s like, we still gotta fix that problem that is breaking us, as opposed to like putting that bandaid on it. You know? It’s like, my wife leaves me, you know, I’m 30 pounds overweight. I look super skinny now, or I lost all this weight. Is she coming back to me or not? Right? Like, or is there something that you gotta work out by yourself prior to losing or getting he or fit or whatnot? Even though that’s an amazing, tremendous feat.

Sevan Matossian (10:28):

I I, I was always, uh, for me, uh, uh, you’re describing me perfectly. I, I, I fully medicate with fitness. Um, and, and I used to medicate, like with nicotine, or I, you know, I, I find things that, and you know, there’s people who medicate with like, music, right? Um mm-hmm. <affirmative>. But yeah, for me, fitness is a, is a fix all. Um, I, I want to think clearly. I go out, I, I feel bad about something. I ate, I go out, um, I am, I’m tired. I don’t go sleep, Matt. I go out <laugh>. Yeah. You know what I mean? For me, like, it’s, it’s, it’s like, it’s like a, I didn’t see the movie, but there was this movie, my Big Fat Greek wedding, and someone told me in the movie, they used Windex to fix everything. Yeah. And it used to be like that for me, for cigarettes, it becomes just like a coping mechanism. You’re upset, you smoke a cigarette, you’re, you’re tired, you smoke a cigarette. Yeah. Nicotine great like that too. You’re hungry and you don’t wanna eat dietary aid, smoke, cigarette. And it was fucking, man, this is, I found the wonder drop. Yeah.

Matt Torres (11:25):

You know,

Sevan Matossian (11:26):

And fitness is that for sure, for sure.

Matt Torres (11:29):

Yeah. It’s funny you said that medication.

Sevan Matossian (11:32):


Matt Torres (11:33):

Uh, what, what did, what did you say the Greek people used? The cleaner Spanish people used Vapor rub.

Sevan Matossian (11:38):

Oh yeah. Yeah. My dad was huge. <laugh> arm Armenian, my dad put vapor on Yeah. Everything. Yeah.

Matt Torres (11:44):

Oh, for everything? Yeah, for

Sevan Matossian (11:45):

Everything, man. Yes.

Matt Torres (11:46):

Yes. That’s so true.

Sevan Matossian (11:48):

Great. Is that what you are? Are you a hundred percent Spanish?

Matt Torres (11:51):

Yeah. Span, yeah. Majority. Yeah. CU Cuban, Puerto Rican. Um, you know, there’s a little Honduras and there it is. Wild man. It’s like my, my father’s side. They’re, you know, orange, orange hair, freckles, green, blue eyes. It’s

Sevan Matossian (12:06):

Wild. Like Canelo, like kind of Canelo, like, uh, like the boxer? Yeah.

Matt Torres (12:10):

Yes, yes. That is Uhhuh, that’s legitimately my dad’s sister. Okay. But pal pale skin freckles, like, man, it’s wild. Like cur always curly ass hair too, man. Um, you know, it’s, yeah. Not to get, have to get it crazy on it, but, you know, I can see, I can see Armenian from you though.

Sevan Matossian (12:30):

Yeah. I’m all, I’m, I’m, I’m all, uh, mom and dad. Yeah. This guy, this, this is a cool looking dude, right? Canelo

Matt Torres (12:36):

Yeah. Mexican too, right?

Sevan Matossian (12:39):

Yeah. What a trippy looking Mexican

Matt Torres (12:41):

<laugh>. I know. It’s kind of, yeah, that, yeah. That’s wild. That is wild.

Sevan Matossian (12:47):

Your sister has red hair. Well, like,

Matt Torres (12:49):

Let No, no. My dad’s sister. My, so

Sevan Matossian (12:52):

Oh, your dad’s sister. Sorry.

Matt Torres (12:54):

Yeah. Right. Um, no, my sister’s like, we kind of look alike. We’re 14 months apart, so we look more alike.

Sevan Matossian (13:02):

Say mom and dad.

Matt Torres (13:04):


Sevan Matossian (13:05):

14 months apart.

Matt Torres (13:08):

Yeah. They weren’t playing.

Sevan Matossian (13:09):

No. Do you have, uh, just one?

Matt Torres (13:12):

No, I have, so I’m the youngest. I have, I have an older brother. My brother, my brother is blonde hair light skinned. Looks more like my father, if you would.

Sevan Matossian (13:22):

There’s these, there’s these two dudes who do a, a podcast on my YouTube station, um, uh, Jr. Howell and Taylor. Oh, yeah,

Matt Torres (13:30):

Yeah. Yep.

Sevan Matossian (13:31):

And JR owns CrossFit Crash and, um mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And then, uh, he does the Crash Crucible that competition. And then Taylor has the s m T training. He’s, he’s over at, um, Charlotte, and they just started doing the show on my channel on Wednesdays. And, and I’m, I’m really excited and flattered, right? Like, part of me, like, I had this thought in my head like, these fucking idiots, they should do it on their own channel, <laugh>. But like, I’m like, oh, no. Yeah, come over here. Yeah. This is great. Yeah. Pretty smart. But today, someone in the comments this morning wrote, these two should start their own channel. And I wrote back to ’em on the YouTube comments, uh, your mom should start an only fans.

Matt Torres (14:08):

Yeah, I agree.

Sevan Matossian (14:11):

Do you feel that way? If someone tried to poach one of your clients? The Alpha’s? Like, I wonder if Tous feels that way. If like someone comes over and talks to one of his clients, like, yo, get the fuck away, <laugh>.

Matt Torres (14:19):

That’s, that’s, that’s the, that’s the main reason why I asked, uh, my asies to move down. I was watching, um, like a re a re like a rerun of the 2021 games. It was like I was with Emma, uh, and we just finished that day. We came back and I was just like watching the rerun of it. And so I forget who it was. I think it was one of the guys on talking Elite fitness. He was like, Shay no is watching Emma Carey finish this workout, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Uh, I’m curious if,

Sevan Matossian (14:53):

Say that again. You broke up. Oh, shit. You broke up. Oh, that was a good point.

Matt Torres (14:57):


Sevan Matossian (14:59):

So Shane Moore came over and talked to your girl and you had to light him up?

Matt Torres (15:02):

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Shane, Shane was just watching it. And who knows what he was watching? He was just watching people work out. Right, right. He

Sevan Matossian (15:10):

There, I lost your video. I lost your video. Uh,

Matt Torres (15:13):

Matt. Oh, you did? Yeah. All right. Hold up.

Sevan Matossian (15:17):

If you have to log out and log back in, you can. What a great story. I think I vaguely, I think I vaguely remember this. No, you’re black still. Un Unless that’s the way you wanna look. I didn’t mean to, uh, to

Matt Torres (15:28):

Judge. No, it ain’t that. It ain’t that hot around here. Hold on. Alright. Alright. Alright. Uh, leave open <inaudible>,

Sevan Matossian (15:36):

Uh, Ryan. Uh, yeah. You can’t be scared to lose an athlete if there’s someone out there better for them, so be it. Yeah, I hear you. I hear you. Don’t ruin the conversation. We’re on a roll. Don’t, don’t bring like some adult shit in here, Ryan. Something like adult shit. No, fuck that. Fight to the death. Keep your shit. Uh, Bernie Ganon. Uh, okay, here we go. Mr. Torres is back. Sorry. We

Matt Torres (15:56):

Good? All right. Okay. Quick fix.

Sevan Matossian (15:58):

Okay. So I, I remember that too. Shane was watching Emma. I do remember that too.

Matt Torres (16:02):

Yeah. And then one of the commentators was like, oh, this could be the next, you know, girl that Shane brings over to proven, and, you know, I don’t know. I just,

Sevan Matossian (16:13):

I don’t <crosstalk>. No, your mom, that’s when you like, no. Your mom’s gonna be the next girl I bring over to prove <laugh>.

Matt Torres (16:18):

Exactly. All right, so check in. So this is what I was thinking. When you’re talk, when you’re talking about, um, uh, the two guys on your, uh, you know, using the podcast, that’s like e s p N man. It’s like E S P N is the platform, and you have, uh, you know, skip, skip Bayless and whatever. Shannon Sharp is on your platform if they go do their own thing now, yes, I could see them doing fairly well, but you put them together years ago, they come and go. It’s like whatever, they could be replaced. Right? I wouldn’t recommend those two guys do any of it, let alone, uh, listen to the lady that was saying, you should go do your own thing.

Sevan Matossian (17:00):



I, you, you know what I think happens, it’s been a conversation that, um, I’ve been having a lot lately, is also people, I, I think people forget where their synergy and like, they think that, that, that, um, or they have people chirping in their ears that maybe that they shouldn’t be having, you know, chirping in their ears. You know what I mean? Yeah. It would like, it would be like one of your, God, I don’t know how to, I, I don’t wanna give a, like a, a direct example, um, and hurt anyone’s feelings, but go

Matt Torres (17:34):

Ahead, do it.

Sevan Matossian (17:35):

No, I can’t. I can’t. It’s, it’s, it’s too,

Matt Torres (17:37):

You can do it. You can do

Sevan Matossian (17:38):

It’s <laugh>. You can do it. It would do more damage than good. I what

Matt Torres (17:46):

If you just said it really quick and a lot of people didn’t even catch it.

Sevan Matossian (17:49):

Right? Well, I’ll just use, I know Taylor and Jr have thick skins and thick skins, and I can just, uh, uh, beat up on them. But it would be like if someone told them, Hey, you, it just like, if someone told them, Hey, you should go do your own channel and missing the point that this channel’s been going every morning at 7:00 AM for two years, and they have no perspective on that. And then JR and Taylor hear that, and they’re like, yeah, we are better than Stevon. And, and they very well could be mm-hmm. <affirmative>, but, but still, like, they’ll fall off the treadmill that gets them, uh, uh, a five-year head start. And it’s just that, it’s just, um, I guess it’s almost because people forget why they started doing something. You know, like you first start try, you start, let’s say you first start wanting to be a, a coach for one reason to help people. And then it becomes, uh, that you wanna win the CrossFit games and then you’ve kind of lost your way.

Matt Torres (18:40):

Yeah. That happens a lot, man. It’s like, sometimes you need those things to kind of set you back on the course that you started on, or you just simply just transcend to something different and you’re like, you know what? I’m moving on. No different than this. Right? I got into, uh, I opened up my first CrossFit gym in 2013. Uh, I had this grand plan. I wanted to open up, you know, five CrossFit gyms, purchase buildings. I just want five CrossFit gyms. And then as of like, I don’t know, maybe a year and a half ago, I was like, you know what? I really want to see this other type of business. Like, I get, like, I’ve done this, like I’ve done, you know, the, the group fitness, like coaching thing. Like, I’m like, I’m so content with what I’ve accomplished in that realm. I want to go somewhere else. You know? And I’m, you know, in a, in a way maybe it’s, maybe it’s kind of the same thing. Like some people might stay true and be like, this is what I’m gonna do for the rest of my life. And then one, you know, circumstance happens or another, or a few or string together and next thing you know, they just wanna do something a little different.

Sevan Matossian (19:44):

Or what if, what if the fact that you want to do something different is you, you, you lost the, the piece that you lost your way. Right? I, I think of it kind of as like, whatever your purpose is is your gas station, so you need to stay close to it. It’s kind of like what’s fueling you. But if you wander away from it, like if it was to help people and you and you, then you go just do games athletes, or let’s say it was to do games, athletes, and then you decide, no, I wanna start helping other people. And then all of a sudden you’re not getting fulfilled. Then you wander kind of away from the gas station. You’re gonna run, you’re gonna, you’re gonna run outta gas.

Matt Torres (20:18):

Is it rider or it’s wrong? Maybe the, maybe the purpose in your life is to run outta gas at that time.

Sevan Matossian (20:23):

Yeah, that’s true. Are you sure you didn’t do ayahuasca this morning?

Matt Torres (20:27):

<laugh>? Nah, nah. I just, I had, I had this feeling like, I don’t know, sometimes a, uh, I’m just, I don’t know, like this constant kind of, uh, micro dose, I guess is the best way of saying it. You know, if, if I sleep well, if I’m feeling pretty good, good enough caffeine in, I usually usually able to think clearly.

Sevan Matossian (20:51):

How old are you?

Matt Torres (20:53):

Uh, 35.

Sevan Matossian (20:54):

Oh yeah. That’s a nice age. Uh, barbell Shrugged did this the wrong way. Savon be Warren. W uh, that was a pod that, that podcast, that, that’s the guys who stood up around the, they stood up, they took their microphones places and stood up, right? Is that who those guys are? Is that the guy who’s with training Think Tank now who does, who’s behind their computer and you never see his face?

Matt Torres (21:19):

I feel like, I feel like you know more than I do, and you’re asking me questions that are above my pay grade.

Sevan Matossian (21:23):

Okay, fine.

Matt Torres (21:23):

You know, like, I’m not, I’m not on the C-level suite and you’re asking me those types of questions right now. You know,

Sevan Matossian (21:28):

I was, um, when, when I did, uh, CrossFit Media, I didn’t look at any of the media in the other, in the, in the in. Now, the space that I’m in, I didn’t pay any attention to any of it. Mm-hmm.

Matt Torres (21:37):

<affirmative>, that’s hard. It’s like, it allows you to focus on what you need to be focusing in on, you know?

Sevan Matossian (21:44):

Um, there’s this, there’s this scab that I kind of want to pick. Um, it might not even be, it might not even be there, but, um, I’m thinking about, um, Jason Hopper and Catchin going to the games and they’re being only one Matt. And I think that like, you’re in that, you’re in that other situation too, right? It’s Matt Torres and I don’t know what’s going on there. Maybe, maybe they don’t like you and everyone really wants the, the, what, what’s the other dude at your place?

Matt Torres (22:16):

Oh, Dom.

Sevan Matossian (22:17):

Dom. Yeah.

Matt Torres (22:18):

Is that what you’re saying? Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (22:19):

Yeah. But how do, how are you, how So when I spoke to, uh, Matt O’Keefe yesterday, he said, Matt’s gonna do Crin and Marconi Iss gonna do, um, hopper. And I’m thinking, Ooh, that can’t be good. Uh, uh, yeah,

Matt Torres (22:36):

It’s actually,

Sevan Matossian (22:37):

Is it like that at your place? You have so many, let just tell people really quick. dLAN Pepper, Emma, Carey v Gofi, uh, Danielle, Brandon, James Sprague. Did, is Nate Ackerman going like as a masters or a kid or something? Is he, does he go as something? I’m sorry, Nate. He’s, but I love you. At least you got mentioned in the show.

Matt Torres (22:56):

Yeah, he’s in that gray area. He’s to be really, really good. Nate’s gonna be really good. Um, so,

Sevan Matossian (23:00):

Honestly, did I miss anyone before we go? I don’t, did I miss anyone? No,

Matt Torres (23:03):

That, yeah. Does. Okay. That was actually, that was really good.

Sevan Matossian (23:06):

Um, like these aren’t, these are all big names. These are like, even people who have names that even if they take, I don’t even if one of those people were to take 30th, there’s gonna be eyeballs. I mean, you know what I mean? And piece of coffee’s got her own little like, kind of cultish following.

Matt Torres (23:19):

Yeah, for sure. Um, so last year we te we somewhat tested this thing out. It was me and Don back there with Danielle and dLAN, right? It was, it was actually really, it was a really good flow. ’cause one would be in the athlete warmup area, the other one be like in the corrals, like underneath the arena type deal. And then we would just text and like one person would walk with the other, and then we kind of switch off. So I would typically with them before they went out onto the floor. And Dom would be with the whomever. It was Danielle or Don, didn’t matter who was going first or second. Uh, and then we would just kind of like switch off, boom, switch off. In some instances. Uh, they would walk back by themselves and me and Dom would be back there with them.


Now what we have going on this year, we actually practice over at semi-final. So we have, uh, three coaches that we absolutely need in the back, right? So there’s two guys, and then there’s gonna be the three girls. It’s me, Dom, and Daniel Conn. You’ll, I refer to ’em as dc Uh, DC is another brew coach that used to live down here in Naples. He lives out in Switzerland now. Um, it’s, it’s a really good, uh, balance of personalities where, you know, they see me as coach, they see Dom in DC as like coach friend as well. Now. I mean, we all have, you know, friend, uh, friendly relationships. Yes. But it’s a lot easier to like, tell your bro, like, open up in this type of way. And then you look at your coach and you’re like zeroed in and focus, and it’s just like you’re ready to go kill someone. So it’s, it’s a nice little break for them. Uh, and Dom in DC uh, they have their own way of doing things that is refreshing as well. So it’s super helpful.

Sevan Matossian (25:05):

Um, did I understand that correctly that, um, uh, Dom is, uh, bringing you back to earth and you’re take them to the launchpad?

Matt Torres (25:13):

Pretty much, man. Pretty much. Yeah. I’m like, I’m there just lying like line the, the, the like putting the fuel on the rockets, I guess, at the bat. And then are you

Sevan Matossian (25:21):

Serious? Are are, are you, are you a pretty serious person? Like are pe are your, are your, uh, are your clients watching right now being like, whoa, that’s the most effort? Matt talk, he’s really on fire this morning. No, no. Oh, no,

Matt Torres (25:33):

No. You know, it’s like, uh, when, you know, when I go to the gym and I’m coaching them, I, I’m more serious than I am joking. Uh, I have, I have a tendency to joke a little too much at times, so I have to, I really do have to reel it in. Um, but I would say the moment that we step out of the gym and we’re doing anything, but it’s usually just like they’re trying to figure out if I’m joking or if I’m being serious.

Sevan Matossian (26:00):

Okay. Because I think, well, I think of you as a very stoic person. Yeah.

Matt Torres (26:06):

Oh, dude. And, and the in

Sevan Matossian (26:07):

The <crosstalk>, like could be interpreted as guarded even.

Matt Torres (26:10):

Um, I, yeah, I can see that. Uh, focused focus is really like where it’s at.

Sevan Matossian (26:15):

Okay. Focused,

Matt Torres (26:16):

Right? Yeah. I, I, uh, when I played sports, especially in college, is when it really happened. Um, everything in my day was planned out to the tee. And even though for me as an athlete at that time, I was like, man, this is like, I feel like I’m always like constrained at these times. Things just run so much smoother. So when we’re, when like just a normal, uh, competition day, there’s time blocks where they gotta be, where they gotta be at these times. So I know exactly where people are and where they need to be, and I’m not stressing out over anything else besides putting a focus on whatever time block that I need to put on. And then we move on to the next. So, you know, when I’m out in a competition, it’s like that, you know, the moment the competition ends, like I take my like, mask off, you know, and I’m just like, finally I can just be me, you know, just like, relax, you know? I don’t have to stress anymore. Um, but yeah, I agree with you. You know, I can, I can see that, you know, serious, stoic, you know, focused whatever, you know, whatever fits it during, um, during competition. But that’s how it needs to be. And I even think, like James, you know how James is, he’s at his best when he’s like that, you know, it is just like, he’s not kidding around. He is not joking around as much, you know? And I’ve known these guys now for, wow,

Sevan Matossian (27:40):

That’s a po that’s a pretty strong message you’re sending right there.

Matt Torres (27:43):

Yeah. I, I’ve known these guys for a, you know, a long time now I can sense their weakness and how they handle weakness, how they handle anxiety, how they handle, um, lack, like if they’re lacking confidence, what comes out of them or what is being shown by them. And so my goal is to sense it and try to like, um, like put that fire out as quickly as I can, um, in whatever form it’s coming out of. So if we continue to use James, uh, James when he’s in the back and he’s like, you know, talking just a little too much, he’s not really focused. Uh, I can sense that there’s just like, he’s trying to take his mind away from the task at hand, or he’s so comfortable because he’s x amount of points in that he’s just, he’s lacking the focus and he is like, uh, comfortable.


Like, you know, I can let my shoulders relax. So it’s like, we gotta sense whichever one it is and be like, yo, like, if it’s the one where he’s, uh, too comfortable, it’s like, Hey, look, just let’s just focus on the step ahead. We have not accomplished anything. There’s still three more workouts left, you know, or if it’s the other way, it’s, you know, what can we control right now, James? Like, don’t worry about what this person’s doing. Don’t worry about the, that person’s doing. Like, this is your rep scheme. This is your pace here. This is how we’re gonna do this. It’s like, any questions, right? So it’s, it’s, everyone has their own little thing. Um, but I mean, that’s go off on a tangent. It’s, that’s just how it’s during competition. That,

Sevan Matossian (29:09):

That, um, uh, no tangent, uh, that, um, what you just described was something that Noah played with. I re remember one year at the games, I came up to him, he was, I mean, he’s one of the, he is a camera guy. When I used to film behind the scenes, he was like, one of the greatest people you could be around. He was awesome. He gave so much ham bridges, you know, there’s this group of people. And one year he was standoffish and I go, Hey, what’s up dude? And he goes, Hey, uh, I’m just, I’m trying something different this year, not to be so happy. Go lucky, lighthearted. Mm-hmm. And then after a couple days, he’s like, this isn’t working. I’m shitting the bed. I’m going back to who I am. <laugh> like, does any James seems like I, I hear you. I’m just pushing back a little bit. He seems like the, uh, and I believe you as his coach, but he’s, he’s a social creature. He mm-hmm. <affirmative>, I mean, uh, he.

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