#955 – Rich Froning, Alex Gazan & Justin Cotler

Sevan Matossian (00:00):

Vehicle.

Rich Froning (00:01):

I’m not a vehicle. Can you hear me?

Sevan Matossian (00:04):

Oh, yeah. Something. I think something might be wrong with the audio. Look at that audio.

Rich Froning (00:08):

No.

Rich Froning (00:08):

Can you hear me? No.

Sevan Matossian (00:09):

Good. Yeah. Damn. You’re lucky, man. Look at you. You got kids all over doing shit.

Rich Froning (00:14):

Kids all over.

Sevan Matossian (00:15):

Oh, uh, something man. Lucky man. Something’s jacked up though, rich.

Rich Froning (00:19):

Okay. What is it?

Sevan Matossian (00:20):

Uh, just the audio. It’s, it’s crinkly.

Rich Froning (00:24):

Crinkly.

Rich Froning (00:25):

All right. Hold on. Let me see. I’ll get a different set of headphones.

Rich Froning (00:27):

Two seconds. Okay.

Sevan Matossian (00:29):

I’ll interview your daughter. Good morning everybody. Good morning, young lady. How are you? David Attaway. Oh, I’m early to the party. Se don’t go easy on Rich or Justin today. Always go easy. Always go easy on rich. Always, always, always, always, always. I am, I am kind of tripping that. Um, I have, uh, Alex and um, Justin on. I’ve never had both of them. Um, I’ve never had, uh, uh, coach and an athlete on at the same time. Uh, Robbie, uh, Myers. Good morning, se and Rich, can you

Rich Froning (01:06):

Hear me? Can you hear me now? Oh.

Sevan Matossian (01:08):

Oh,

Rich Froning (01:08):

That’s nice. Is that better? Nice. And not crinkly anymore.

Sevan Matossian (01:11):

Hey, dude. Are you selling those tank tops yet on your site?

Rich Froning (01:14):

Uh, they’re, yeah. They’re basketball jerseys. We got new ones. These are the 22 versions. The 23 versions are, uh, Dre did a cool job and made them look like, uh, the nineties bulls uniforms. So they’re those colors. But yeah.

Sevan Matossian (01:26):

And, and they’re for sale on the website,

Rich Froning (01:28):

I think. I think I just got the, the notification email. I saw ’em in the back. They’ll be out if they’re not out right now. They’re out soon. They’re pretty cool. You didn’t they’re good. Summer wear.

Sevan Matossian (01:37):

You didn’t sell those ones though, right?

Rich Froning (01:39):

Yeah, last year. These are the 20. Oh, you did two ones. Yeah. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (01:43):

They’re awesome. Do you live in those now?

Rich Froning (01:46):

Individual number on them, these jerseys? Yeah. I live in these jerseys. Summertime.

Sevan Matossian (01:53):

Yeah. That’s awesome.

Rich Froning (01:56):

How you doing?

Sevan Matossian (01:58):

I’m fucking great.

Rich Froning (01:59):

You good?

Sevan Matossian (02:00):

Yeah. I mean, I’m so excited. I want to go to, where would I go? Do I go to, how do I go to the

Rich Froning (02:04):

Store? May mayhem nation.com. I think the store is on there.

Sevan Matossian (02:09):

Um, oh, shoot. Uh, I ended up at May.

Rich Froning (02:11):

I know, I know. They were dropping all the games gear. They may have dropped it to like our mayhem athletes first. Uh, that’s what they’ll do sometimes. Give everybody a chance to buy it before.

Sevan Matossian (02:21):

And, um, when I type in Mayhem Nation, the first Google suggestion is, uh, apparel.

Rich Froning (02:27):

Oh, there you go. So I’m Notre must have Google optimized it over J with programming.

Sevan Matossian (02:34):

There you go. Okay. Bitching.

Rich Froning (02:35):

Those are t-shirts similar to it. And then we’re gonna allow, we’ve got our athletes, uh, any athletes that made to the games can customize some jerseys and people can buy those off them too. So help them make it to the games with some money.

Sevan Matossian (02:48):

Holy shit. This looks like a lot of work. Oh, that’s cool. They get the money.

Rich Froning (02:52):

Yeah. Yep.

Sevan Matossian (02:53):

That’s nice of you.

Rich Froning (02:55):

I never took that picture in that tie dye shirt, by the way. I’m suing Dre for defamation of character.

Sevan Matossian (03:00):

That’s a, oh, that’s a, uh,

Rich Froning (03:02):

Photoshop. Photoshop. Yeah. I’m pretty upset about it actually.

Sevan Matossian (03:05):

<laugh>, uh,

Rich Froning (03:11):

It’s not my style, you know.

Sevan Matossian (03:12):

Uh, uh, coffee pods and wads. A fair question. We’ll start with, uh, something very difficult. Uh, can Rich Comp compile his store so I can buy from mayhem, frowny farms and Buffalo Brew in one shipment?

Rich Froning (03:23):

That would be easy, right? Yeah. We’ve, we’ve talked about trying to figure out a way to do all that. Um, yeah, it’s, you would think since they’re all technically, I mean, Buffalo Brews owned by me completely, but then me and Matt, um, and our wives own Froning Farms. And so that’s, that’s the one, I guess, catchy one. But, um,

Sevan Matossian (03:44):

We, we couldn’t even figure out, when I worked at CrossFit, we couldn’t even figure out how when people register for the open, they could also buy a shirt. <laugh>

Rich Froning (03:51):

It blow my mind. Right? The internet’s a crazy thing. Maybe if we plugged it into chat G P T, they’d tell us how.

Sevan Matossian (03:56):

Yeah, it’s crazy. You fuck with chat g p t

Rich Froning (03:59):

Man. It’s crazy, isn’t it? I tell you,

Sevan Matossian (04:01):

I I, I don’t mess with, I don’t mess with it, but people send me stuff from it and I’m just like, wow.

Rich Froning (04:06):

I, uh, I had this weird dream. It’s, you know, I’m in those presidential biographies and, uh, I had a dream that I had to write a, uh, a paper. I had a dream. So for some reason I was still in college. I had to write a paper. Um, and it was, and I remember it vividly cuz when I woke up, I was like, I’m gonna try it, write a paper. It was a seven paragraph essay on, uh, James Madison’s opinions on federal government. And it had to have two sources, like two bibliographies. And so I typed, I just typed that into the prompt. Two seconds later, spits out a seven paragraph essay with a bibliography and all that. And I was just like, holy cow. I don’t know why I thought of that wa in my dream, but

Sevan Matossian (04:49):

I did. How did you even know how to do that? Do you have a computer or you did that on your phone?

Rich Froning (04:53):

Uh, I went to the office when I was at the office. Ben likes to mess around with chat. G p t. He, uh, I’m pretty sure if chat b chat g p t ever becomes self-aware, um, the first person that’s gonna kill is Ben Davidson. Uh, cuz he was just sitting there trying to annoy it basically. And you could, you could tell it. It did not like, you know what Ben was trying to ask it just pestering it. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (05:16):

It, it, it’s crazy. Uh, it’s crazy biased. It’s crazy. Yeah,

Rich Froning (05:21):

It is. There’s, it’s funny that they, you know, they’ve, I’ve seen other ones that are like, there’s, um, more liberal leaning, um, AI systems and then there’s more conservative leaning AI systems, and I’m like, isn’t the point of it for it to figure it out itself? But, you know, right.

Sevan Matossian (05:37):

Is what it’s, and and that’s what kind of shows that it’s not artificial intelligence.

Rich Froning (05:40):

Exactly. There’s something, it’s being, it’s being told something.

Sevan Matossian (05:44):

Yeah. Like it has, like it has a favorite color.

Rich Froning (05:47):

Yeah. Yeah. So maybe it developed a favorite color, you

Sevan Matossian (05:51):

Know? Yeah. Yeah.

Rich Froning (05:53):

I don’t know. I’m, I’ve watched Terminator too many times. I don’t, I don’t like ai. It scares me. Somebody said, and I don’t know how true this is, that there’s multiple, um, podcasts where people have, you know, done say a hundred podcasts and then now that they’ve said so many different words, they can actually cut up and AI a whole podcast or whatever without even having to do a new podcast.

Sevan Matossian (06:22):

Yeah. There’s an, there’s entire, there is AI Joe Rogan.

Rich Froning (06:26):

That’s insane.

Sevan Matossian (06:27):

Yeah. It’s

Rich Froning (06:27):

Crazy to me. It’s scary to me.

Sevan Matossian (06:29):

Podcast. Yeah. Hey, there’s a girl. There’s a girl who was, who made like a million dollars in a month. She ha she was, uh, you know, she was like some only fans girl that turned herself into an ai and each person could be like, so she could have like,

Rich Froning (06:42):

She could be whoever who, for whoever

Sevan Matossian (06:44):

She could have like a thousand boyfriends on. Uh, this is a

Rich Froning (06:46):

Terrifying world we live in. This is not a good, this is not good. This is not good.

Sevan Matossian (06:51):

What’s crazy though, is all you have to do is put this down and it goes away.

Rich Froning (06:54):

It goes away. It’s gone. Yeah. It’s

Sevan Matossian (06:56):

Gone. It’s

Rich Froning (06:56):

Gone. It’s gone. You can live in real life. You can look outside. There’s trees blowing in the wind, you know, it’s pretty cool.

Sevan Matossian (07:04):

Trees. What are those trees? Uh, manning, Spiegel. Ask Chad. G p t the advantages of being a white male than work your way across the gender ethnicity spectrum. Very different responses. I know. I, I’ve done that. And, and like, what drugs you should take and which you shouldn’t. It’s, it’s basically owned by far. It’s, it’s owned by the

Rich Froning (07:19):

Yeah, I was about to say. I think it’s owned by the

Sevan Matossian (07:21):

Woke left.

Rich Froning (07:22):

I guarantee people Yeah, you could sponsor it, you know, from the backend. I’m g now that, now that I think about that, man, people are so smart. Why am I so dumb? I’m such a sheep.

Sevan Matossian (07:33):

Uh, Trevor Gentry. Uh, good morning gentlemen. AI is the beginning of the end.

Rich Froning (07:38):

It is, it is. I’m telling you.

Sevan Matossian (07:40):

Not for me.

Rich Froning (07:41):

Not for me. Until it gets a hold of those nuclear launch codes, then we’re gone.

Sevan Matossian (07:46):

Oh, there was a movie like that. Do you remember that movie? Um,

Rich Froning (07:48):

There’s several movies like that. Terminator one through eight.

Sevan Matossian (07:53):

What was the one that, um, I watched

Rich Froning (07:55):

IRobot, Terminator iRobot, um,

Sevan Matossian (07:58):

What else? No war Ga. Wasn’t there one called War Games with like, um, not Matthew McConaughey, but the guy from, um,

Rich Froning (08:03):

Indiana Jones. Harrison Ford, wasn’t it? No. That’s Spy Games. No shit. I guarantee it.

Sevan Matossian (08:11):

What’s the movie with the kid who, um, uh, he’s old now, but, um, he, he, he, he cut class and he went to a baseball game and he took his death. Ferris Bueller. Ferris Bueller. That guy was in a movie, I think called War Games. Huh? When I was a kid.

Rich Froning (08:24):

Got it. He was also adult Simba in Lion King. Matthew Brodock? No, Matthew Brodick.

Sevan Matossian (08:29):

Oh, yeah, yeah. Is that his name? War Games 1983. All right. Young man finds a back door onto military general com, uh, central computer in which reality is confused with gameplay, possibly starting World War ii.

Rich Froning (08:40):

There it is. You know that man, it’s almost like Hollywood predicted that. Or maybe, maybe they’re behind it all. Maybe we’re in the Truman Show.

Sevan Matossian (08:51):

Oh man.

Rich Froning (08:51):

Ever ever think that when you were like the Truman Show? Did you ever watch that?

Sevan Matossian (08:54):

Not did, did I ever think that? Do I ever still think that?

Rich Froning (08:57):

Still think that You’re like looking in the mirror. You’re like, wait a minute. Yep. I may actually be living that. Actually, we’re being a hundred percent honest.

Sevan Matossian (09:06):

Scott’s

Rich Froning (09:07):

Just peeking around here with a camera.

Sevan Matossian (09:09):

What did I, uh, the show is not off to the,

Rich Froning (09:12):

We derailed it. We derailed it.

Sevan Matossian (09:14):

Sorry, I’m already lost control of the show.

Rich Froning (09:16):

That’s

Sevan Matossian (09:16):

Good. I’m gonna, this this is the, I’m gonna, first I’m gonna, uh, talk about why I invited you on the show. What inspired me to like, grow some balls and invite you. Okay. Um, this

Rich Froning (09:27):

Uhoh this,

Sevan Matossian (09:28):

Oh, you probably can’t see this cuz you’re on your phone.

Rich Froning (09:30):

Secret Service. Yeah. No, I can see it.

Sevan Matossian (09:32):

Oh, you can’t. Oh. So can you gimme the juicy details of how this happened? This is this you in front of Air Force one

Rich Froning (09:38):

That’s, uh, mock Air Force one. It is a training, um, tool. Yeah. We, uh, I’ve got a friend that’s Secret Service. I’m not sure if I’m allowed to. I I, I don’t know if I’m allowed to say his name or not, but the whole secret thing and not secret thing throws me off. Yeah. Um, but we went to the Secret Service Training Center. Oh man. It was, that was, it was awesome. We got to watch ’em, uh, that first picture. We were at one of their shoot houses, um, watched some of their recruits for, uh, counter assault team, uh, breached some doors, clear some rooms. It’s kind of like, um, SWAT for Secret Service. And, um, it was awesome. It was cool. We got to do that. Then we got to go. That was just kind of a, a prop that they used or used to use for Air Force. Did

Sevan Matossian (10:21):

You go in there? Did you go

Rich Froning (10:22):

In? No, it’s old and rickety and kinda like infested with wasp. They said there’s that and then there’s a, a a, a Marine one replica there too that they can practice. You know, basically they just pull up and, you know, what, where they’re supposed to stand and how they’re supposed to protect, uh, when they go to Air Force One. Um, we got to see kind of their, um, museum of all the guns that they’ve either confiscated over the years and do whatever. Um, that was all at the Secret Service Training Center. Got to see the cars, like the, uh, motorcade cars

Sevan Matossian (10:54):

And Yeah. Tell me about, tell me about the cars. Is that car are, do they still use the same limo that all the presidents have used?

Rich Froning (11:01):

No, no, no. But they have, they have multiple of the different generations. I think they’re on like generation five or six. And basically at this point, it’s a Mack truck with a Cadillac over, you know, like skin over it. It was, it was cool. And, uh, then we got to drive with some of the guys that, you know, drive the president around or just, or, uh, driving cars around the president. And so that was a ton of fun. Got to go to one of their simulation. They have, um, like a 300 degree video simulation with, um, um, Glocks that have CO2 in them so you can feel like what a gun actually feels like. But you’re shooting against a screen and they put you in all kind of different scenarios and like test, you know, your reactions. And so they can do that with recruits and like just teach ’em different situations and scenarios and they’re controlling kind of behind you. Like it’s real, it’s real video of, but they can control what the people like, which scenario comes at you. Um,

Sevan Matossian (11:57):

So it’s not with goggles on, you look to your

Rich Froning (11:59):

Right. No, no. It’s panels, it’s panels of, of video screen. And you have these, um, the Glocks and you’re, you’re supposed to, you know, interact with the people, you know, the scenarios already been filmed. So it’s not like they’re reacting technically in real time. Um, but they have the person that’s behind the controls has already like, told it which scenario you’re gonna see. And so it was, it was cool. Um,

Sevan Matossian (12:23):

And you got to do that. You had the gun, you stood in there and they’re like,

Rich Froning (12:27):

Exactly, Hey. They’re like, Hey, talk him down. You know, like, and if he, if he advances at you too fast, you know, what decision are you gonna make? And so it was, it, uh, you know, in no way shape.

Sevan Matossian (12:37):

What was your scenario? What was your scenario? Were you in there by yourself?

Rich Froning (12:40):

Uh, no. Usually you were with somebody else. Um, one of our scenarios was, uh,

Sevan Matossian (12:45):

Was it Hillary? Hillary was in there with you.

Rich Froning (12:47):

Hillary wouldn’t do it. Uh, me and Matt were in there, and then Matt and his wife were in there. There was one that, you know, there’s like eight doors and people were just coming outta different doors and you were supposed to like, you know, analyze the threat if they were a threat or if they were a, you know, I guess to see if you were gonna just shoot somebody that just walked right out. Um, that was kinda the first one to warm us up. And then we did one, um, where you had a drunk driver and you’re supposedly in the cop car. They pull over and as you pull over, um, they get out of the car and then their spouse comes out of the house and she’s got a baseball bat. And she’s yelling and he’s yelling and he ends up shooting. And, uh, it was, it was not funny, but kind of funny.

(13:25):

Um, Matt’s talking to the, um, the guy that was, was the, the driver. And, um, the girlfriend, her wife comes out with a baseball bat and the guy goes to pull a gun on Matt, Matt shoots, and Kelly, his wife’s in there with him, and she just reactionary, shoots the girl with the baseball bat. Like no threat whatsoever. It was just like complete just reaction. And so it was, uh, we were giving her crap about that. But I mean, it’s, it’s in that moment, it’s real for you. And so it’s, it’s crazy to kind of just see how people react to that.

Sevan Matossian (13:55):

I have a pretty, um, strong, um, I always think this, if, like, if a cop’s got a gun, right? Yep. And you pull anything on him, do

Rich Froning (14:05):

Not,

Sevan Matossian (14:06):

Just don’t. If you do any threat, I I, I know people are gonna hate this, but I think you should get shot. And here’s why. Because if she hits the cop with the bat by any chance, or throws the bat in it hits him, then she can go over and take his gun, gun hit the gun. Yep. And now she’s a threat to everyone else. So agree. So I think that like, once you physically show force show Yeah. Show force. Yeah. I, I’m just kinda like done with you. I’m like, it

Rich Froning (14:28):

Was, I mean, yeah, it was eyeopening because you’re already high strung and you’re just in a simulator. Right. You know, if it’s real life, it’s even worse. Um, so I mean, it was, it was definitely eyeopening. I knew being a cop is hard, already hard enough. But that, that made it even more, you’re like, oh, okay. Yeah, this is real. And so we did that the one day that night we walked around, a bunch of the monuments went and saw, you know, Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln, Korean War Memorial, Vietnam, uh, Memorial, FDR Memorial, all those kind of at night, which was really cool. And then the next day, uh, we went to the

Sevan Matossian (15:02):

Fdr. Let’s not forget about him. Uh, Japanese internment camps, uh, gathered up the, uh, the, uh, oh, Japanese people took their property. And, and let’s not also forget that FDR was, uh, kind enough to, uh, turn away, uh, Jews who were fleeing Europe, uh, from, uh, the Nazis and told them that they couldn’t come through Ellis Island.

Rich Froning (15:22):

But he started the New Deal.

Sevan Matossian (15:24):

Well, what’s that? The, the <laugh>? Yeah. Yeah. I, I I am not, oh, this. Wow. Matt Susa in the house. Thank you, Matt. I, I’m, I’ve been re Oh, you, uh, we lost your audio. Rich. We lost Rich’s audio. We lost your audio. I can’t hear Rich. Can you hear Rich? No. Good. I can’t hear you. Rich. I can’t hear you. Son of a bitch. He’s gonna make me calm. Eye contact. Eye contact. Rich. Look at me. Look at <laugh>. He’s figuring it out. I can’t hear you. I can’t hear you. Let me call him. Jesus. Louise. What a show. I wonder how many people have Rich in their favorites. Rich is the kind of person who doesn’t answer his phone. Even if you have his phone number.

Rich Froning (16:17):

How’s that? There we go. Oh,

Sevan Matossian (16:18):

Better, better, better. Okay. Why did that? What’s the new deal? So you went to, you said something about the New Deal. He did the New Deal.

Rich Froning (16:23):

No, he did the New Deal. Uh, no, I said after that we went to the Capitol building the next day. And that was awesome. Just where I’m at in history and, and learning, uh, and reading all those books. It was cool to see like, um, the, we got to go in the house, the where the house meets, where it originally met, where the Senate met, where it then turned into the Supreme Court from

Sevan Matossian (16:46):

Oh my goodness. Holy shit. Rich. Oh, that’s bad. Meet Rich. Something happened again. Take,

Rich Froning (17:01):

I dunno what’s going on. Can you hear me still?

Sevan Matossian (17:03):

Yeah. No, we’re good now. We’re good.

Rich Froning (17:06):

I dunno why the headphones keep doing that. So, um, Hey

Sevan Matossian (17:09):

Rich, is this the Capitol building you’re on right now?

Rich Froning (17:11):

Yeah, we’re on top of the rotunda there at the Capitol building. It’s crazy. Yeah, I mean, those, uh, Fredericko and um, Josh were awesome and they took us around and, uh, man, it was, it was a fun time. We, uh, we were up on top and they were all, they were there on, uh, January 6th and he’s got some pictures. It was crazy. One of the guys is a sniper, and uh, it was, it was a cool, like I said, they, I don’t know if you guys heard me with my mic or my headphones, but they built the Capitol building. Yeah. And then outgrew it instead of knocking it down, they just built on the outside of it. So it’s like these kind of weird, like, rooms are kind complex. It’s, it was cool. It was, uh, that was a cool spot just to see all that stuff in the history of it. And then they have a kind of a marker where they, um, I don’t know if it’s more ceremonial or what, but they think, uh, George Washington laid the cornerstone for the Capitol building. So,

Sevan Matossian (18:06):

And look at that’s, you’re on the roof right there.

Rich Froning (18:08):

We’re on the roof. And then later on the rotunda up there, Hillary was like, oh, uh, what are those doors up there? He’s like, I don’t know, let’s go see if we can get up there. Sure enough, we got up there. It was awesome.

Sevan Matossian (18:18):

You went in that dome?

Rich Froning (18:20):

Yes. Yeah, it was, that was really cool.

Sevan Matossian (18:26):

Um, what’s the security like up there for you? They pat you down pretty good. They, they put their hand up, Hillary’s dress or anything? Like anything? They

Rich Froning (18:32):

Didn’t, they didn’t do that? No, I think we were pretty, pretty well cleared. You definitely had to, um, coming in. They, they made sure everything was on the up and up. But um, after that we were with, like I said, we were being escorted by Capitol Police and they were,

Sevan Matossian (18:45):

Uh, they didn’t bring out a special girl to fill those girls up to make sure they’re not packing, like one for the dudes and one for the girls.

Rich Froning (18:51):

No, I guess they trusted him.

Sevan Matossian (18:54):

Wow.

Rich Froning (18:55):

I don’t know why.

Sevan Matossian (18:56):

Talk about lack security now. We know how Jan six happened.

Rich Froning (18:59):

Yep. Yeah, it was crazy. He’s got some pretty crazy pictures. He said, like I said, he was up there as a sniper and he said it just kinda, you know, it got, that’s

Sevan Matossian (19:08):

Another, that’s another thing I have strong feelings about. Like if you, if you approach the Capitol building. I, I kind of, yeah. And, and like our civil, our civil servants are in there. I kind of like,

Rich Froning (19:18):

Yeah, you, you take that risk if you start breaking things, you know, that’s you, you’re not supposed to. And that was the executive building next to the White House. We did a West Wing tour and then got to go in the BP’s office and, um, hang out a little bit and see all that stuff. So executive building’s insane too. It’s, it’s well built. Um, super solid, uh, structure, kind of old tool. So

Sevan Matossian (19:40):

Rich, this is all the same day?

Rich Froning (19:43):

Uh, that was the next day.

Sevan Matossian (19:45):

Okay. So you didn’t have like a change of clothes with you and you changed your clothes to, are you, did you meet with the senator or congressman?

Rich Froning (19:51):

No, no. Like I said, I’ve got a really good friend that’s a secret service and I’ve met a bunch of Secret Service, um, officers throughout the years and they’ve come to the barn and trained. And so, uh, it was really cool, like I said, to get to go up there. It was just me, Matt, and Kelly and kind of more laid back. It wasn’t a, a real work trip. It was, we were just tourists, you know. So it was, it was cool.

Sevan Matossian (20:12):

Hillary took this picture.

Rich Froning (20:14):

Uh, I bet Hillary probably took that picture.

Sevan Matossian (20:17):

Uh, she’s a good photographer. She take all these,

Rich Froning (20:20):

Uh, Hilary’s an incredible photographer. She just doesn’t never do it. Yeah, yeah. She probably took all those, if they’re on hers then she probably took them. I definitely am not the photographer in the group.

Sevan Matossian (20:31):

Um, uh, did you ask to go do this? Is this part of your, are are you, is this part of your whole prepping to run for office here in a few years? Reading, reading, uh, the Federalist Papers, reading biographies, going to visit the Capitol?

Rich Froning (20:45):

No. No, absolutely not. I, uh, like I said, I’ve got this good friend, he’s from here. He’s about to retire in a couple years and he’s been begging us to come up there. And then Matt and Kelly just talked about going on a trip and I’m like, Hey, I’ve got these connections. Let’s see, see if this actually works. And sure enough, man, we got the full tour. Um, got to do that. And then on the last day, like I said, we went to the White House, the executive building, and then we, man, we went to the American History Museum. That was really cool. Um, got to see the, the flag that was flown, um, that the Star Spangled Banner was written for. And um, it was just, it was cool.

Sevan Matossian (21:19):

You went, you went to the White House too, huh?

Rich Froning (21:22):

Yeah. Yeah, we went to the West Wing. We saw Uncle Joe there. He was walking through the Rose Garden.

Sevan Matossian (21:26):

No shit.

Rich Froning (21:27):

Yeah. Yeah. We were probably not supposed to be where we were cuz everybody started kind of moving. And like I said, my buddy, um, he was like, we’ll just stand right here, you know, just stand right here. Something might happen. And sure enough you just see him kind of meander through the Rose Garden

Sevan Matossian (21:44):

Solo.

Rich Froning (21:45):

Uh, yeah. By himself. I mean, there were agents kind of at different areas while he was moving. So I think they said, uh, Dr. Jill was at the pool.

Sevan Matossian (21:55):

There’s a pool at the White House.

Rich Froning (21:56):

Yeah. I didn’t know that either. Yeah, there’s a pool at the White House. Apparently there’s a bowling alley downstairs. Um,

Sevan Matossian (22:02):

The White House pool. Oh shit. Yeah,

Rich Froning (22:05):

There was a, uh, where the press, where the press meets, there used to be a, like a recovery or a rehab pool there where your boy FDR would do his, uh, rehab stuff. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (22:18):

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I forgot about his little mishap.

Rich Froning (22:23):

Yeah, the, the South lawn is pretty nice. I mean it’s obviously that’s where they do all their events and stuff. Um, we just missed, uh, did you see where they had the, the, the trans influencer topless on the White House lawn? You’re just like,

Sevan Matossian (22:37):

Yeah, we featured that on this show.

Rich Froning (22:39):

Come on.

Sevan Matossian (22:41):

That’s what happens on this show when you’re not here.

Rich Froning (22:43):

When I’m not here.

Sevan Matossian (22:44):

Yeah. We feature things like that.

Rich Froning (22:46):

Feature things like that.

Sevan Matossian (22:48):

Uh, Josh Lehrman, uh, rich is on, so you know the deal. Yeah. Rains money. Thank you. Yeah, thanks

Rich Froning (22:54):

Josh.

Sevan Matossian (22:55):

God, you’re a good dude. Uh, this dude has a farm about 130 miles south of me.

Rich Froning (23:01):

Oh really? What kind?

Sevan Matossian (23:01):

Yeah, like, like, uh, cherries and um Oh, cool. And fruits and stuff. And he invited my family and I to come down there and watch the, the harvest. I need to actually go down there and do that. I wonder if I missed that window.

Rich Froning (23:12):

That would be cool. Uh, cherries. I don’t trying to, we used to have some cherry trees. I’m trying to remember what time of year it was. About this

Sevan Matossian (23:17):

Time of year. It’s now, it’s now I have cherry trees. They’re full. They’re full.

Rich Froning (23:21):

Yeah. About, about this time you’re supposed to start getting rid of or harvesting.

Sevan Matossian (23:25):

Um, uh, Eric, uh, with a poignant question. Was Joe lost? Was he, did he appear to be lost when you saw him?

Rich Froning (23:32):

No comment. It was not, it was not what you would expect the leader of the pre country to, to be moving like it was. Oh man. It was pretty eyeopening. I, yeah.

Sevan Matossian (23:42):

Ha. Have you seen, have you seen these videos, rich of um, uh, Robert Kennedy doing pushups? Robert F. Kennedy? No. I’ll juice to the Guild. Have you heard about it?

Rich Froning (23:51):

No. I need to, need to watch it. No,

Sevan Matossian (23:52):

I haven’t seen, dude, have you seen these Susa? He is definitely on the sauce.

Rich Froning (23:56):

Oh, Susa in the background. Hey.

Sevan Matossian (23:58):

Yeah. Susana’s back here.

Rich Froning (23:59):

Look at you got him in the, you got him hidden, right?

Sevan Matossian (24:02):

I’m on Time out questions for me? Uh, uh, um, yeah, there’s, uh, someone posted something I saw this morning on Instagram. He has his shirt off. He’s, dude, he is Juice to the gills.

Rich Froning (24:14):

T R

Sevan Matossian (24:15):

T’s fine T rt Testosterone placement. He’s medicated. Oh, okay. And, uh, yeah, I think you’d be proud. It’s pretty, and the comments are all positive. It’s got the, the, the thing I saw, it’s like 9,000 comments and it’s like, Hey, this is the first time I’m gonna vote Democrats and

Rich Froning (24:29):

Shit like that. That’s awesome. They said, they said he, uh, I think he requested Secret Service protection already, which it, it kind of, it’s weird. Like I was asking basically how they determine all that stuff and it’s almost case by case. And uh, I think he wanted it because of his family’s past. Um, obviously rightfully so, I guess. Um,

Sevan Matossian (24:51):

But his dad, his daddy got popped right? His dad was the attorney General. Yeah, dad and

Rich Froning (24:55):

His dad and his uncle,

Sevan Matossian (24:56):

Right? Yeah. And his uncle was, his uncle was the president.

Rich Froning (24:59):

Yeah. So I mean,

Sevan Matossian (25:01):

Yeah. Isn’t it kinda weird? He wants the guys who killed his family to protect him now. So they say,

Rich Froning (25:08):

So they say, so they say, did you, have you ever read uh, no. Killing, killing Kennedy? No, by Bill already.

Sevan Matossian (25:16):

Good. That

Rich Froning (25:16):

Pretty good book. I mean, those books are the ones that kind of set me on this presidential biography thing that I’m on.

Sevan Matossian (25:23):

Hey, um, where do you, are you an Audible guy? Are you getting, are you listening On, um, on Apple.

Rich Froning (25:29):

On Apple. So I Yeah, me too. Everybody’s like, you should have got Audible. You should got, and I’m like, I, yeah, I should have. You’re right. But now the fact that I’ve got all these books on Apple, I’m like, I’m just gonna kind of stick on Apple, you know?

Sevan Matossian (25:40):

Yeah. I’m Apple too. I don’t do Audible. I’m Apple too. Yeah,

Rich Froning (25:43):

Yeah, yeah. Where I’ve been doing all this biking, I’m, uh, I just kind of put the headphones in and, and crank for an hour or two depending on the day. And I’ve, I’ve burned through, like I said, I’m, I’m to James Monroe right now.

Sevan Matossian (25:56):

Oh, in 1.25 speed or regular speed or

Rich Froning (25:58):

1.5.

Sevan Matossian (25:59):

1.5. Wow.

Rich Froning (26:02):

Yeah, I just, I, I’ve noticed I’ve retain it better and I’m, you know, I’m just, instead of like, I I, one time I was like, lemme go back to one and just see what, what it sounds like. And I thought I was gonna lose my mind. It literally sounds like slow motion.

Sevan Matossian (26:18):

Wow. Yeah. Uh, good question. Audrey. Rich, do you have a garden?

Rich Froning (26:23):

Uh, we don’t have a garden. We are, I got too many, like one a couple years we’ve talked about having a garden and we tried it and my chore as a child was to weed, um, you know, the flower beds or the garden when we had gardens. And I absolutely disdain doing that. And so that’s the one thing that prevents me from doing a garden fair. The one thing I don’t

Sevan Matossian (26:44):

Wanna, yeah, the weeds suck.

Rich Froning (26:45):

I’ve heard that. Like if you do those raised gardens and stuff like that, it’s better, but I also just, my kids would somehow ruin it. You know, like we’d do all the work and then I’d walk out and he’d tries is like a rabbit anyway, so he eats vegetables left and right. So somehow we wouldn’t even be able to, you know, he’d gnaw on the leaves before they even became vegetables.

Sevan Matossian (27:04):

Hey, when he came out, um, he was eating a cucumber. And that’s the go-to snack with those Persian cucumbers. That’s like the go-to snack for my kids. Persian cucumbers.

Rich Froning (27:12):

He loves some cucumber. Any real vegetable pit. I mean, pickles are, we have this conversation. It is a vegetable, but no, it’s a fruit. Cucumbers are fruit.

Sevan Matossian (27:21):

Really? Do you know that? Yeah. No, they have seed because seeds. Okay, okay. I’ll, I’ll I’ll take that. That’s

Rich Froning (27:27):

Vegetable. It’s still vegetable.

Sevan Matossian (27:28):

Yeah.

Rich Froning (27:28):

Yeah. Um, but yeah, man, those kids will just, they’ll eat anything. And so they love some vegetables. But our neighbor has an, um, lives at the end of the driveway and uh, they work at, um, Laura works at Mayhem with us. They have kind of a raised garden and then they have some chickens and stuff. So the kids go over there. They have kids. So they’re the same age

Sevan Matossian (27:46):

As our kids. You don’t have chickens. You don’t have chickens.

Rich Froning (27:49):

I told Hilary, no more species of animals around here until we get everything kind of under control, you know? It’s been crazy. We’ve got,

Sevan Matossian (27:57):

I I’m assuming your family eats a shit load of eggs. You, I’m assuming you guys go through a dozen eggs a day.

Rich Froning (28:02):

We go through a lot of eggs and a lot of chicken. I mean, we eat a lot of chicken too, so, um,

Sevan Matossian (28:07):

What about the liver? King says that aunt, you shouldn’t eat chickens or pussies, so you shouldn’t eat chickens. You should stick to like the bigger animal.

Rich Froning (28:12):

That was, uh, I thought it was Jim Harbaugh, right?

Sevan Matossian (28:15):

I don’t know, but I’ve heard the liver king say that too. Chickens are

Rich Froning (28:18):

Puss. Ok. Jim Harbaugh, I think Jim Harbaugh told his recruits or something that he, they shouldn’t eat chicken cuz they’re a skittish animal and he doesn’t want his players to be skittish.

Sevan Matossian (28:28):

Awesome. Yeah. Wasn’t Jim Harbaugh, he was a quarterback like in the seventies, right?

Rich Froning (28:33):

Uh, I think he was like eighties or nineties. He is a football coach now for the, uh, Michigan Wolverines.

Sevan Matossian (28:38):

I would’ve guessed. He’s dead. <laugh>. Hey, you, you know, I tried. I I, last week I had scheduled you and Tyson be to be on. I

Rich Froning (28:46):

Know, I heard about it after they were like, Hey, you were supposed to be on this morning. I said, yeah, I know. We had little sickness, everything go through the house couldn’t make it. And they were like, they had Tyson on there. And I was like, well, so funny

Sevan Matossian (28:56):

Story. I was kind of like trying to do the dating game, right? I know. Have like your shows like cross.

Rich Froning (29:00):

One of my, uh, the people that we went up there to hang out with that are Secret Service Travis, they used to go to Travis’s gym.

Sevan Matossian (29:07):

Oh shit. Shit.

Rich Froning (29:08):

And, uh, they know Tyson and they were raving about how just a good kid he is, you know, like, um, solid. I mean, and that was, you know, off the record, they were like, he’s awesome. And so I hated that. I missed that. So we’ll do it again. If you give my number anytime, if you’ve ever, if he is ever passing through or something wants to hang out, let me know.

Sevan Matossian (29:25):

Cool. Absolutely. Thank you, rich. Yeah. Okay. Uh, onto more serious, uh, topics, period. Enough for enough foreplay. It are, are you down to 180? Are you biking 50 miles a day and you’re, and you’re, are you, are you getting weak?

Rich Froning (29:38):

I’m not 180. I am getting weak. I’m like 180.

Sevan Matossian (29:40):

I heard you say 180. I heard you say 180 2 on your podcast. And I’m, so I just rounded down. I’ve been telling, spreading rumor, saying You’re 180. Oh, I rich. He didn’t like that. He didn’t like that <laugh>. He didn’t like that. I was right. He didn’t like that. He’s like, fuck you, fuck you. And see what happened. He’s outta here.

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