#954 – Everything You Need To Know About CA Peptides w/ Hiller

Sevan Matossian (00:00):

Five. Excellent. Uh, Sabir, uh, sev pulling out, uh, only out of your mom. Okay. Um, there you

Andrew Hiller (00:08):

Go. Answer your question, Matt

Matt Maldo (00:10):

<laugh> there. It’s,

Sevan Matossian (00:12):

And thank you Sabir for that, uh, ALU. Uh, I appreciate it. I know that was, uh, you just threw that up so I could fucking reverse dunk on that shit. In the senator screen is Matt Malano, did that say right? Maldonado Maldonado Maldonado, yes, sir. That’s not his fault. That’s just that I’m not so good at reading

Andrew Hiller (00:30):

<laugh>. I have BB Pro bodybuilder. Yeah,

Matt Maldo (00:32):

Correct. Yeah, I’ve been pro the last couple years. I won the, uh, USA’s in 2020. So I’ve been competing the last 10 years. And, uh, uh, here I am, man. Still, still at it. So

Andrew Hiller (00:45):

Can you tell Stefan what that means to be an ib? I F B B pro bodybuilder?

Matt Maldo (00:50):

Oh, the I F B B Pro League is the top level of bodybuilding. The Mr. Olympia contest is sanctioned by the I F B B, so all the top, uh, physique athletes are, are in this organization. So

Sevan Matossian (01:03):


Matt Maldo (01:04):

Be confused with other organizations. Um, Arnold Schwarzenegger obviously won the Mr. Olympia seven times. He was an I F B B pro as well. So this is like the cream of the crop for bodybuilding.

Sevan Matossian (01:15):

Hey, congratulations. That’s cool. Thank you,

Matt Maldo (01:17):


Sevan Matossian (01:17):

How does that, so you made it to the, you, you, you put your head down and made it to the top of your sport?

Matt Maldo (01:21):

Yeah, man. And, and it’s obviously, you guys know, it’s like a, a grind and a journey to get there and ups and downs and peaks and valleys, and you get discouraged when you get so close and it’s not happening. But I mean, finally it happened and it, it’s, yeah, it’s a, a goal you’re chasing for so long and to finally get there, it’s like, man, what a feeling. But then you start at the bottom of the totem pole again. So, you know, as an amateur, I was always, uh, in my mind, okay, I’m top guy. Like I can, I’m in the, you know, compared with the best guys. And then you turn pro and it’s like, oh man, back at the, on the bottom. So it’s, it’s another, uh, hill to climb for sure.

Sevan Matossian (01:57):

Well, you, you know, we had, uh, Tyson be on here the other day. He’s the kid who broke the NCAA all time, uh, touchdown passing record, uh, you know, best quarterback. Yeah. You know, ever at his high school, best quarterback ever in division two. Best quarterback ever at his college, goes to the pros and he’s like, yeah, dude. Like no one even talks to you, <laugh>, next level man. He said, you’re in the room with all the other athletes and you’re just the dude in the back taking notes. He said, it’s a true,

Matt Maldo (02:22):

Everyone’s good at that level, man.

Sevan Matossian (02:23):

Yeah. Uh, you, you know what I, I was just thinking about your, um, this is off subject here, but I’m, I’m, one of the things I like to focus on on this show is this, the difference between men and women that we are just totally, completely different. You know, we just don’t have women masturbating in public. It’s not a crime you hear about, but there’s just dudes who do it, like constantly. That’s just something, we’re just different creatures. And another thing is, is like, I bet you the vast majority of your, uh, the vast majority of followers for like Danny Spiegel, I don’t know if you know who that is, but she’s a, um, an athlete in the sport of CrossFit and she has like 1.8 million, uh, Instagram followers or maybe more 2 million. And she posts just shit tons of thirst picks, right? Doesn’t really have anything to do with her performance, but just shows the manifestation of what her body looks like because of all the hard work she puts in and dedication she puts in.


So she’s in all these like, weird poses so that people can look at her body. And so the majority of people who follow her, I’m assuming are men. But that being said, don’t forget, the majority of people probably following Matt, um, maldonado are also probably men. And it’s not just the fact that men are perving over girls. It’s just that men are into bodies. We like to look at shit. Yeah. We love to fucking look at shit. A man walks in the room and you might think the first thing he looks around at is for pussy. No. The first thing he looks around is, is to size up all the other dudes. Then it’s to look at pussy. Right? So there’s a, there’s just this, just understanding you should just have of men, it’s not good or it’s not bad. Yeah. That’s an incredible photo. Holy shit. Oh,

Matt Maldo (03:48):

Thank you, man. Yeah, that was right after I turned pro right there. Uh, yeah. It’s,

Sevan Matossian (03:52):

You play any other sports, Matt?

Matt Maldo (03:54):

I played sports growing up. So like, I played football, I wrestled, I did a bunch of stuff, but you know, when I got to the level where, you know, kind of like, uh, the quarterback, you know, you get to the next levels and it gets good. And, uh, I’m only like five eight, so I’m not a big guy. So playing football at that level and you start playing the older big guys, you know, it, things hurt and your body kind of breaks down a bit. So when I got to that point, um, I always trained and I was always into bodybuilding, so it was an easy transition for me to stay competitive in something, um, and still push myself. Um, so that’s kind of how I, I transitioned over to, to bodybuilding. I just, uh, okay, let’s put all my focus into training and, and building my physique and see how far I can take this.

Sevan Matossian (04:35):

Uh, pickle pickleball, oh, sorry, go ahead, Hillary. I just wanted Caleb, can we, Caleb, can I make you small Caleb and, and the four of us. Sorry. Thank you.

Matt Maldo (04:43):


Andrew Hiller (04:44):

Like a wizard. Hi, Caleb.

Sevan Matossian (04:45):

Make you small, small. Um,

Andrew Hiller (04:49):

You in that picture, the black and white one from just

Matt Maldo (04:51):

That. What’s that? I’m sorry?

Andrew Hiller (04:52):

How much do you weigh in that picture?

Matt Maldo (04:54):

I turned pro, I was a middleweight. I was 176 pounds. So at that point I’m probably 10 pounds bigger, 15 pounds, because that was just a few days after the show. Oh, okay. So, and then I could, what’s

Sevan Matossian (05:04):

The most is ever weighed?

Matt Maldo (05:06):

Two 30.

Sevan Matossian (05:10):

Um, how tall did you say you are? Five eight?

Matt Maldo (05:13):

Yeah, about five, eight maybe. Slightly taller, couple <laugh>. Not an inch, but

Sevan Matossian (05:18):

Couple hairs. Yeah. And then, and then in that black and white photo, how much did you say you weighed? You weighed 1, 180 6

Matt Maldo (05:23):

There. That photo shoot was like a Tuesday after I turned pro. I turned pro on a Saturday. Excuse me. So I turned pro at 176 cuz there was a weight cap and oh shit. So I’m probably about 10 pounds bigger. They’re rehydrated a bit and stuff.

Sevan Matossian (05:37):

Wow. One’s 76

Matt Maldo (05:39):

Had the morning of that weigh in for that show. I was 184, so I had to lose eight pounds that from, it was in Arizona, from California to Arizona. Drop eight pounds to make the weight. So

Sevan Matossian (05:51):

How, how is that, is that absolutely horrible or is there kinda like a balance where you’re kind of like, well, this is kind of cool, like you’re motivated by seeing more like, uh, veins and striations?

Matt Maldo (06:01):

Yeah, for sure. But at that point there’s like nothing really left to lose. I mean, you’re already starting to drop water and stuff, so it’s like, okay, how am I gonna make this weight? And, and you, you kind of like a fighter or a wrestler or something. You, you find the way to get that last bit of water off. But, uh, to be honest, you, you don’t feel real. Well, um, you’re, you’re very weak and muscles cramp and stuff, but, uh, you make the weight and you make the adjustments and it’s kind of the part of the sport that no one really talks about. You know, having to go through certain things to, to get to a certain level, um,

Andrew Hiller (06:33):

Certain things.

Matt Maldo (06:34):


Andrew Hiller (06:35):

Wh wh which ones are those? Just like the, the extreme dieting.

Matt Maldo (06:39):

Extreme dieting, you know, uh, the diuretic use, um, to drop the water. Yep. Uh, it’s like a, it’s, you know, when you, uh, um, airtight like a piece of chicken or something and the ceramic

Andrew Hiller (06:52):

Vacuum peel,

Matt Maldo (06:53):

That’s exactly how I like to compare it because you’re, you’re super lean going into the show and then you’re like, man, I look pretty good. Then you, you know, start the diuretics and, and, uh, you wake up, you know, throughout the night and the next morning it’s like, whoa. You start to see everything and it’s, uh, impressive and, and crazy to see, wow, this is myself. Uh, but again, there’s always a kind of a price to pay for it. So do you

Andrew Hiller (07:17):

Take a shot the second before you get on stage

Matt Maldo (07:19):

A shot? No. Some guys do that though. Some guys do that. I’ve never done that. I’ll take a, sometimes I’ll take a Viagra though. Uh, yeah, increases blood flow and, and you know, you get a little better pump and, you know, the veins come out a bit. So it’s kinda one of the tricks there.

Sevan Matossian (07:35):

What would they, what would they shoot themselves with before they go on the show? What would you give shot?

Matt Maldo (07:39):


Andrew Hiller (07:40):

Like a

Sevan Matossian (07:40):


Andrew Hiller (07:42):

Before on stage. That was my favorite part. Drinking. And I don’t, didn’t really drink very much and I was also incredibly leaning into bodybuilding. And I go, all right, here’s the one shot. And then you just explode. You get super veiny, you take care of yourself.

Matt Maldo (07:56):

Pad dehydrated. You get real veiny. Yeah, for sure. So the little tricks of the, the sport man <laugh>.

Sevan Matossian (08:04):

Dang, these pictures are crazy. Um, there’s something I wanted to start the show with, and, sorry, this is totally off subject. I, I apologize. Uh, Matt, not a problem. Um,

Andrew Hiller (08:12):


Sevan Matossian (08:14):

I, I, I was wa I was watching, there’s a guy who, uh, runs the CrossFit games, his name’s Dave Castro, uh, Matt. So, and, um, he just came back to work at CrossFit. There’s something I wanted to share with you guys. Ba back in the um, day, there were all these little whiny bitches who would complain that Dave released a bunch of shit on his Instagram. And that’s for some reason that that wasn’t, uh, um, professional. Professional. And they’d be like, I don’t wanna follow Dave. I, why should I have to follow Dave to get the information? And you guys, you, you guys are such pussies. I cannot believe the bitches that you are in your total misunderstanding of how the world operates. And then Dave went away and you got no information and the grass wasn’t greener on the other side, and then you got fucking jack shit. Then you got no calms.

Matt Maldo (08:59):


Sevan Matossian (09:00):

Zero. Now listen, and the calms you did get, were just fucking diarrhea. Now listen, Dave’s back, you can go over to his YouTube page. He put up a video yesterday, and I’m telling you, his shit’s gonna blow up. Now. I can’t wait. Now you guys gotta go back and be like, and drink from the tit again. Get back over there and why don’t you, first thing you do is apologize for the shit that you used to whine about.

Matt Maldo (09:24):

You don’t have know what you have till it’s

Sevan Matossian (09:25):

Gone. Assholes. What? Say it again. You don’t know. You don’t what? You,

Andrew Hiller (09:28):

You just make that up. I like that.

Sevan Matossian (09:30):



It, it, it, it’s so, it’s so like that. And then, and then, and then one of you jackass is the worst part about being on YouTube is, is it floods out all the retards. Not that there’s a lot of them, but there’s some, someone in the comments wrote fascinating how savant’s, anti-vax, but has taken bunch of peptides. First of all, I’m the furthest thing from anti-vax just because I don’t wanna take the measles vaccine because fucking no one’s dying from it. But they tell you that they are, or that the polio vaccine has killed more people than it’s fucking saved. That doesn’t make me anti-vax. It just makes me want to use the right medicine at the right time. And I haven’t taken any peptides yet. And then there’s no correlation between the aspects of what, um, uh, vaccines do versus what peptides do. It’s like saying, I can’t believes eats steak when he doesn’t want dick in his mouth. It’s like, what?

Matt Maldo (10:18):

<laugh> like,

Sevan Matossian (10:19):

Dude, work on your fucking simile game as ass

Matt Maldo (10:22):


Matt Maldo (10:24):


Sevan Matossian (10:25):

Punk ass bitch thing

Andrew Hiller (10:26):

Is, they’re gonna miss that right there and they’re not gonna understand. Even if they did hear it, they’d be like, no, it’s a needle. And it’s the same.

Sevan Matossian (10:33):


Andrew Hiller (10:34):

They’re so dumb.

Sevan Matossian (10:35):

Dude. <laugh> injecting my kids with so that they don’t get a venereal disease two hours after they were born is different than me having a bicep issue and wanting to bring Matt Malden auto on to help me figure out what kind of peptides I can take to fix it. <laugh> fucking ding dong. Very different. That’s for sure. Yeah. And, and, and, and, and I’m, I’m, I’m gonna scratch the surface on both of them. Look at Jake Chapman’s, like, what the fuck’s going on? No one knows. No one knows. It’s like, it’s like a Kanye song or, uh, a Lil Wayne. No one knows. I just drank a bunch of coughs syrup up and here I am doing a show.

Matt Maldo (11:07):

He, he apologized to that <laugh>

Sevan Matossian (11:09):

<laugh> look. Yeah, look, the the listeners are apologizing to you. Sorry man.

Matt Maldo (11:14):


Matt Maldo (11:16):

I get myself into here, man.

Matt Maldo (11:18):

Yeah. Welcome to the show.

Sevan Matossian (11:20):

Um, I did, uh, Andrew Hiller, congratulations on that video you put up. That was a really cool video, which, and I have my, um, all of them,

Matt Maldo (11:28):

All of them.

Sevan Matossian (11:29):

I have, uh, I got, I got my needles and I have my alcohol swabs. Oh

Matt Maldo (11:33):


Sevan Matossian (11:33):

It’s going down. So, so and so not, not today because I How long does it take, Matt? Um, Andrew says something in his video where you have to take, you have the special bottle of water.

Matt Maldo (11:45):

Yeah, it’s bacteria, static water. So when people reconstitute peptides, it’s important to use that, not just the regular water. Uh, people use sodium chloride sometimes too, but, um, I think bacteria, static water is the, the one to use. There’s a benzoyl alcohol to preserve the peptide in there. So, um, if you, you do use peptides or people use growth hormone, you always want to mix it with a bacterial static water.

Sevan Matossian (12:10):

Okay. And then Andrew shows in that video, let me see if I can find it, uh, here real quick. Um, that you, um, that also says

Andrew Hiller (12:18):

That it helps yours.

Sevan Matossian (12:18):

You turn the, you turn the, you take that special, what did you call it? Something static water. What’d you call it?

Matt Maldo (12:24):

Bacterial static water. Back water, yeah.

Sevan Matossian (12:26):

Bacterial static water. Right. And you slowly drip it in there with where the BP 1 57 is.

Matt Maldo (12:34):

What I like to do is I’ll, I’ll, I’ll

Sevan Matossian (12:36):

Shoot Now what’s reconstitute mean? You’re bringing it back to life. You’re turning the powder into something that’s

Matt Maldo (12:39):

Injectable, the peptide or whatever. It’s just a, a powder. And then you have water. So you’ll draw the water, then you’ll put it into the, the bottle of the, um, powder. But what I like to do is I like to kind of shoot it towards the side of the bottle and let it kind of just drip into the peptide. You don’t want to shake it or to, you know, to mix it together cuz you could damage the, the, um, peptides. So you just kinda let it, uh, slowly get into the, um, powder. It’ll mix on it’s own. It might be a tad cloudy or a tad, you know, um, you know, might see a little bit of powder, but it’ll, it’ll settle together. Um, and that’s the way to do it. And then once you, after mixed, uh, you want to keep it in your refrigerator too,

Sevan Matossian (13:21):

You don’t wanna, okay. And, and, and, and Andrew talks about how you shouldn’t fire it in there. Yeah. You should let it drips slowly. Is that really true? I was like,

Matt Maldo (13:29):

Dribble into it. Is that true? For sure. Yeah. Cause they’re

Sevan Matossian (13:32):

Its sensitive.

Matt Maldo (13:33):

Very sensitive. They’re very sensitive. Correct. So yeah, you wanna be very careful with the reconstitution of it,

Andrew Hiller (13:38):

With what you said. What I said we’re one of the same, the the the, you do not want to hit it real hard with the water.

Matt Maldo (13:44):

Yeah. No way. Andrew’s a hundred percent correct.

Andrew Hiller (13:47):

You might as well not use the peptide at that point.

Sevan Matossian (13:50):

And he says you shouldn’t shake it either, as Andrew’s saying all this. So basically he, he takes the, this bo this, this, this jar, little tiny jar full of powder and all, and then he, you slowly let this special water, um, drip in there and then you roll it. That’s how you let it mix. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And then you take out your little portion and you inject it, and then you put what’s left over in the fridge. Correct. And, but what made me um, nervous about that is because it’s so sensitive, how do I know that the powder in there isn’t already damaged?

Matt Maldo (14:20):

Well, if you shook it, it’s damaged. But if it’s, if you’re just moving it and you didn’t drop it or anything, uh, got

Andrew Hiller (14:28):

The, the, the bottles you’ve got savon. Yeah. The powder kind be stuck to the bottom of the jar, right?

Sevan Matossian (14:33):

Yes. I noticed that the powder’s all adhered to the sides.

Andrew Hiller (14:36):

They, they shoot a bunch of air in there so it’s compressed to the bottom. So as it’s being shipped and transported and whatnot, it’s not flying around everywhere in the bottle. Okay. It’s also great for you to know whether or not it’s black market crap because if you get your bottle and the powder’s shifting around, and Matt, you can tell me if I’m way off base. No, you’re absolutely right. If, if you look at the bottle and it’s not packed to the bottom, you know that it probably wasn’t produced the right way.

Sevan Matossian (14:59):

Hey, I listened to five peptide videos with doctors and shit last night and I st I never heard that bit of information. We’re already ahead of the curves.

Matt Maldo (15:07):

A great, you’re absolutely right, can talk about that. So Hiller’s right on it, man.

Andrew Hiller (15:11):

You get it shot up and you’re looking at it like that, it’s probably all fucked up. Don’t take it.

Matt Maldo (15:15):

Yeah. You’re seeing a lot of stuff come from like China or cheap stuff and uh, it’s, it’s not good stuff. So people who are interested in using peptides, be sure you know where you’re getting ’em from.

Sevan Matossian (15:27):

Uh, Judy Reed, this, uh, sounds like a show I watched on Netflix on how to use crack. Thank you <laugh>. Um, because the, and it is like that it, that’s a, that’s a, uh, interesting Hiller cuz I was wondering about that too. The, the two little jars I have of BP 1 57, it is all stuck to the side and it doesn’t move. So that’s a good sign. That means it’s good sign. They’ve, they’ve, it’s uh, the, you’re saying the pressure in that jar has made it so that it can’t bounce around in transit?

Andrew Hiller (15:54):


Sevan Matossian (15:55):

Oh, sweet dude. Well, this show’s over there we’re already better than the other shows. <laugh>

Andrew Hiller (16:01):

Solved it in 16

Sevan Matossian (16:02):

Minutes. Okay. And, and, and so this is the part I’m really tripping on, on what are peptides. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, I watch these three shows and I still don’t really understand what they are or five shows, whatever I watched last night. But they have, they they seem to work. People are really into them and they have something that’s called regenerative properties.

Matt Maldo (16:24):

Correct. So basically peptides are just, uh, chains of amino acids linked together to do certain things naturally in our body. We have like 7,000 naturally occurring peptides. Obviously what we’re injecting is synthesized in the lab. It’s not natural. Um, but when we, you know, use it on ourselves through subcutaneous injection or intramuscular injection, you’re basically just signaling these natural peptides to do certain things or enhance the body’s ability to do things. So you’re speaking, uh, BPC 1 57, that’s a healing peptide. It, you know, it can help, uh, regenerate ligaments, joints, muscles, uh, wounds. Um, it’s actually

Sevan Matossian (17:05):

That guy Andrew Huberman said he shot it into his fucking back. He said every time you stood up, he had back pain. He said he did two doses of BPC 1 57 in his back and his back’s better. I was like, holy shit. It’s

Matt Maldo (17:16):

Incredible. That’s, that was my intro to peptides was the first one I ever used was BP 51 57. I was working with these chemists who kind of, you know, showed me peptides about five, six years ago. And I was always having shoulder pain from training or something. They’re like, try this out. And so I was in the lab with them and they, they, uh, you know, mixed the BP 1 57 and put it right in my shoulder joint. And I swear within 15 minutes I could lift my arm again. Uh, I mean, that’s not a,

Sevan Matossian (17:41):

You weren’t nervous that they were gonna inject you something that you were gonna test positive for in your, uh,

Matt Maldo (17:45):

You never, that’s the risk you take. But

Sevan Matossian (17:47):

Heller, that was a great joke, asshole.

Andrew Hiller (17:50):

I grin, don’t worry,

Matt Maldo (17:51):

I’m a man. I’ve stuck some, some things in me that are normal. So

Andrew Hiller (17:58):

As have

Matt Maldo (17:58):

We That’s fine. The needle’s this big. Let’s do it.

Andrew Hiller (18:01):

She said too,

Sevan Matossian (18:05):

Honey, I have a tiny penis. It’s really not sex coming. It’s not that

Andrew Hiller (18:08):


Matt Maldo (18:08):

Yeah, it works.

Sevan Matossian (18:09):

Your husband will never know. Hey,

Andrew Hiller (18:11):

Did you check out the comment section on that video Zevon? Because in relation to what Matt just said and, and what he, you also heard on Huberman, the comment section on that video is just littered with people talking the praises of, uh, BPC 1 57 experience with it’s kind of nuts. There’s one up top, there’s the next one, the first two. It’s a lifesaver.

Sevan Matossian (18:31):

Let me read that one right there. Matt. Craig, that guy wears a tie, uh, bp and I know for a lot of people that matters. A BPC 1 57 is a lifesaver. I had a torn, uh, labral hip flexor that kept collapsing on me. Oh my god. Uh, I couldn’t train for 11 months and tried everything, including surgery, which only helped for two weeks before it collapsed again. I tried BPC 1 57 and after four doses gave me enough stability to actually start my rehab, then Pilates, then eventually training again 10 years later. And it’s still stable and trained consistently. Please go to ca peptides.com and get your BPC 1 57. Now code word seven. I added that last part. People, he’s not, that guy’s not selling it. <laugh>

Matt Maldo (19:09):

By the way, we’re speaking of reconstituting ca peptides will provide the water to the correct bacteria. Static water.

Andrew Hiller (19:14):

Donald did. I messed that up. Okay.

Sevan Matossian (19:16):

Wait, say that again. I didn’t follow that part, Matt.

Matt Maldo (19:19):

I said speaking of reconstituting the peptides, uh, ca peptides provides the the bacteria static water so you don’t have to go searching for it.

Sevan Matossian (19:27):

Oh, right. So you get the, you get the water and the, and the pep and the um, stuff. The only thing you don’t get, you don’t get the needles.

Matt Maldo (19:32):


Sevan Matossian (19:35):

Um, what about a prolapsed anus? I’m asking for a friend if my, if my anus is hanging out of my butt. Can some DP 1 57, uh, Andrew, do you have any prolapse, anus, <laugh>. Hey, I

Andrew Hiller (19:45):

Mean, I heard you can shoot it into your dick <laugh>. I dunno why the anus wouldn’t be any different, but I would <crosstalk> those two things don’t, not recommended. I

Sevan Matossian (19:54):

Don’t, I don’t even understand what that guy had a labral whatever. But, um, do do

Andrew Hiller (19:59):

Has wrong with her.

Sevan Matossian (20:00):

Does literally you inject that in there. They, they can check a, do an MRI or an x-ray, then you inject that in there and then a month later it, it actually looks heal. Get actual, like some bag

Matt Maldo (20:10):

In with the injection. Uh, it’ll work a lot quicker, but it, it’ll also, if you just get it in close or in the system, it’ll, it’ll find it. But um, it, if you can actually hit the exact tendon, it’ll work that much better. I know it’s hard sometimes people have wrist injuries and how you gonna put a little needle in your wrists and stuff. But, uh, if you can find it.

Sevan Matossian (20:30):

If I live with Hiller, if if Hiller lived close to me, I’d have him injecting me with all sorts of shit.

Matt Maldo (20:35):

<laugh>. It’d be the, the science experiment.

Sevan Matossian (20:38):

Hey, totally off subject here. Could, could I inject my dog with that?

Matt Maldo (20:44):

Yeah. So actually when I was working with these lab guys, we had a, a dog with cancer and they used thy alpha with him and to help with his, uh, uh, you know, treatments and stuff. And it seemed to help for sure.

Andrew Hiller (20:56):

The dog. Seven years old. It’s great.

Matt Maldo (20:58):

Yeah. Yes. The oldest living dog ever. <laugh>.

Sevan Matossian (21:02):

I took bpc, Melissa Odier, just normal hot chick listens to the show. I took BBC 1 57. Tb. What’s that? Tb. Tb.

Matt Maldo (21:12):

Another healing peptide.

Sevan Matossian (21:14):

Is it slightly different than BPC 1 57? Slightly different,

Matt Maldo (21:17):

But, but again, it’s uh, it’s a, it’s, it’s very similar. So actually the combination of the two, which the peptides has the combo of the two. Yeah, that’s my favorite one.

Sevan Matossian (21:27):

Wow. Okay. I took a BPC 1 57 TB 500, save my lower back. Uh, relieve my gut issues.

Matt Maldo (21:36):


Sevan Matossian (21:36):

But did not work on my cerv cervicals. What cervicals is that something up here?

Matt Maldo (21:41):

That’s clavicles. Cervicals.

Andrew Hiller (21:43):

Those are

Sevan Matossian (21:43):

Clavicles. Oh, what are cervicals? Are those your testicles but girl’s version? What are cervical?

Andrew Hiller (21:49):

I would’ve to guess it’s cervical fine. Like maybe she had something wrong with her neck, but that’s Oh guessing.

Sevan Matossian (21:56):

Wow. Hey. And if it doesn’t work, it, it could also be you missed the spot. Right? This stuff is really, um, I dunno if the right word is sensitive, but it it’s relevant where you inject it. Right?

Matt Maldo (22:10):

Pretty relevant. Uh, I don’t, it’ll work better for sure. If you find the spot. I’m not gonna say it’s not gonna work. If you have a, um, shoulder joint issue and you put it in the del like you’ll still get the, the benefit of it. And like Melissa’s saying, a BPC is, uh, also great for, for your gut health.

Sevan Matossian (22:27):

Why, why is that?

Matt Maldo (22:28):

I think, I think it enhances the microbiomes in the gut and, uh, we just, I briefly mentioned Thim and Alpha, which is like, uh, TB is thi and beta thim and alphas ta, uh, that really, uh, enhances the microbiome in the gut and, and helps with immune function. Um,

Sevan Matossian (22:48):

So yeah. Caleb, will you throw some of that in the card? I wanna, I wanna ask Matt something. I wanna see what happens. You’re telling me look at, look at all the people popping up in the comments saying this shit works. Yawn. Oh, for sure, for sure. I took BPC 1 57 to heal an MCL tear. It’s

Matt Maldo (23:04):

Incredible trying.

Sevan Matossian (23:05):

So you’re telling me that someone could go here, buy this, it gets to their house in, in in a week or whatever. Where do they get the needles from? Oh yeah. You can use my name as a code.

Matt Maldo (23:17):

There you go.

Andrew Hiller (23:18):

Oh yeah. Or free shipping

Sevan Matossian (23:21):

By the way. I don’t get a portion of that sale. Anyone. I mean, uh, Sarah takes really good, uh, care of me. California peptides takes good care of me, but I don’t get a portion of that. Like,

Matt Maldo (23:31):

She’s just likes to show, I think people to really, you know, do your research and, and read the studies and read the uh, uh, the comments and what people are saying and how much it’s helped them. It’s, it’s pretty remarkable what these things can do.

Sevan Matossian (23:43):

A and and then where do I get the needles from? And, and, and the to to, to re cuz it’s a different needle to reconstitute. Yeah,

Matt Maldo (23:51):

It’s an insulin needle. Uh, and an insulin needle. They’re over the counter. They’re not illegal to to buy. You can get ’em from any pharmacy. They might limit the amount you can get. Um, but you can get ’em on online. Uh, Amazon I think even can them,

Sevan Matossian (24:04):

Can I just go into San Francisco and just walk around and pick them up off the ground? They’re everywhere. Absolutely

Matt Maldo (24:10):

<laugh>. You

Andrew Hiller (24:11):

Just gotta wipe it off like their shirts.

Sevan Matossian (24:13):

Can I go into any major city, Matt, in the United States that’s run by Democrats and uh, and just pick up my own needles. Sure,

Matt Maldo (24:19):

You can find some man.

Sevan Matossian (24:21):

That’s why I vote Democrat. That’s why I vote Democrat

Matt Maldo (24:25):


Sevan Matossian (24:27):

Holy shit. Wow. Okay. Yeah, for sure. Amazon. Amazon. Make sure

Matt Maldo (24:32):

That you’re using an insulin needle. Yeah. This is like perfect. What you just pulled up a 30 gauge, uh, one milliliter needle. Don’t use the big long ones or anything less than 27. That thing’s gonna be like a dart man. So use the, the tho the thin small needles for sure. Because a lot of these injections are just under the skin. So,

Sevan Matossian (24:52):

But that’s not the needle though. They, they keep using the word reconstitute cuz they’re smarty pants. So I’m gonna change the word too. That’s not the needle you use to mix it with the water. You have to use a different needle. Or can you also use that needle if you’re in a patch? Patch?

Matt Maldo (25:04):

Yeah. The, the water. It’s just water. It’s not like oil or things. So it’ll go in the syringe pretty well. Um, but you’ll wanna find one that’s probably a hundred units cuz you’ll want to reconstitute with the milliliter of water.

Andrew Hiller (25:14):

Yeah. In my video I cover that. Like you could throw in through these needles. It just takes longer. The thing about the thicker needle is that there’s usually more liquid that you can hold in the

Matt Maldo (25:25):

You’re holding it

Andrew Hiller (25:26):

And it ma yeah, it makes it easier to grab all that water and throw it into the bottle of BPC or whatever you’re using

Sevan Matossian (25:33):

Now. This is illegal. Um, uh, um, uh, if Rich Ronney were in the games this year, which he’s not and, and he were to take this, he he and got tested, this would be illegal that he would pop for this.

Matt Maldo (25:45):

Yes. Yeah, I think Wada and, and uh, USDA have banned certain peptides

Andrew Hiller (25:49):

2022. Not

Matt Maldo (25:50):

Because their performance enhancing, just because of the, their structure. I think,

Andrew Hiller (25:55):

Hey Matt, what’s if life on this stuff?

Sevan Matossian (25:59):

Say that again Hillary, I cut you off. Say that again.

Andrew Hiller (26:01):

What is the half-life on this stuff?

Matt Maldo (26:03):

Uh, very short half-lifes, which is kind of a good thing. Cause uh, somewhere like four hours.

Andrew Hiller (26:09):

So that means that if they drug test you about five days out, you’re good.

Matt Maldo (26:13):

Oh, so we’re we’re talking about getting around the system a bit. <laugh>. Yeah, for sure.

Andrew Hiller (26:17):

Well, I mean,

Sevan Matossian (26:18):

Duh. Science. It’s science. Matt. It’s science. It’s science. It’s all science.

Andrew Hiller (26:21):

They can’t Is that the same for all of them or do they

Sevan Matossian (26:23):

Have very Listen, I ejaculated in in my boyfriend’s mouth and I’m concerned he is gonna test positive. He’s a game man. Listen, I,

Matt Maldo (26:29):

I’m concerned. I’m sure think you’re safe using it a week or two weeks before your test. I don’t want to tell you that because what if for some reason you, it’s lingering, but it’s a

Andrew Hiller (26:39):

Loaded question because over here, uh, what do you got there? Caleb is at the half, 30 minutes.

Matt Maldo (26:45):

Yeah, some are are tiny. Yeah, some are super short. But the good thing about that is if you have a side effect from, from one of ’em for whatever reason, which is very, very rare, uh, it’ll go away very quickly. It’s not gonna stay in in the system. The thing about peptides, they’re very tissue specific. Or if we took like a, a medicine or a hormone or something, it has kind of like a systemic uh, uh, uh, you know, you’ll feel it systemically. Uh, peptides are very isolated and and tissue specific and they’re alsos very small molecule. So like the cognitive function peptides past the blood, blood-brain barrier very easily. Um, so you get, you know, the cognitive ones work extremely well for A D H D or, uh, we’ve used them successfully with, uh, early, uh, dementia and, and Alzheimer’s. So,

Sevan Matossian (27:35):

Oh, these are all the people who’ve tested positive at the CrossFit games. CrossFitters, yeah.

Andrew Hiller (27:40):

Yes. It’s not, I don’t think it’s got all of them, but it’s got most

Sevan Matossian (27:43):

Of them. Oh, there’s my boy Nicholas Elle. What’s that dude?

Matt Maldo (27:46):

What do they say? What they’re testing for?

Andrew Hiller (27:48):

They they do, that’s why I brought it up. Cause I’m gonna tell you, there’s not one peptide on this list. No. Lot of gw. Lots of gw, lots of, there’s manone, there’s var, there’s uh, ol there’s all that stuff. Good stuff there. Norine. Where are the peptide? Why are there no peptides?

Sevan Matossian (28:10):

Uh, poor Alexa. Hiller going on Mel malt. Milana. No, don’t go on that. Hiller do you’re not. Go on that. I do not approve of that.

Andrew Hiller (28:17):

You don’t approve?

Sevan Matossian (28:18):

No. Is that the

Andrew Hiller (28:19):

One that’ll that’ll tan you up,

Sevan Matossian (28:21):

Correct? No, it’s, it’s it’s cultural appropriation. You’re still the, the, you’re not no dreadlocks and no, uh, melatonin.

Andrew Hiller (28:28):

You were talking about, uh, Sammy SOA bleaching his skin yesterday. It’s like

Sevan Matossian (28:31):

Completely inappropriate.

Andrew Hiller (28:34):

Same but different.

Sevan Matossian (28:36):

Um, so, so in, in, in all in all. So going back, I wanna go back to this half-life thing. Uh, basically what you’re half-life is a is the short way of saying how long is it in your system that it can be tested for? Correct. And what you’re saying is these passed through your, your system pretty damn fast.

Matt Maldo (28:54):

How’s, how’s the testing done for CrossFit games?

Sevan Matossian (28:56):

You’re, they give you 24 hours notice. I think you have to always tell them where they are and then they give you 24 hours notice. I’d be

Matt Maldo (29:02):

Interested to see if they’re actually testing for peptides. To be honest,

Andrew Hiller (29:06):

Also interesting.

Matt Maldo (29:07):

Cause if you remember the Balco scandal, if you guys remember that from years ago with Yeah. They, they couldn’t test for these designer steroids because there was no test for them and they weren’t looking for it. That’s why they were able to get, get away with it for so long. So

Sevan Matossian (29:22):

Shit totally off subject. We’ll come back to that in a

Matt Maldo (29:25):

Yeah, they had a little whistle, sorry to get off topic, but they had a no go whistleblower who, you know, gave a sample of it to these lab and they were able to create the test for it and that’s how they started catching them.

Sevan Matossian (29:35):

Hmm. What about this, I wanna come back to the testing thing in a second, but what about this, what about autism? Is there, is there, uh, that’s a fucking great question. Is there a lot of research question on peptides and autism? I

Matt Maldo (29:47):

Knows cure, I, there’s a lot with, with, um, Alzheimer’s and, and dementia and, and, uh, traumatic brain entries? To be honest, I would have to look into it or talk to some guys about autism. I do not know that.

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