Conor Murphy:
Last podcast we did was just you and I. Oh,
Sevan Matossian:
All right. Cool. Uh, bam. We’re live Guys. Good morning.
Conor Murphy:
Good morning.
Sevan Matossian:
Uh, we were supposed to have Sarah Sigmund’s daughter on. We had a last minute, uh, change. No worries. Uh, she will be on next week and um, I was excited to do a live calling show this morning. I love them. And, um, I had, uh, Connor on before, within, within the last year. You’ve been on the show, right, Connor?
Conor Murphy:
A couple months ago. Yes, sir.
Sevan Matossian:
And you have your own podcast?
Conor Murphy:
I do.
Sevan Matossian:
And uh, it’s funny cuz yesterday someone was, uh, sent me a link to your Instagram, was like, dude, you need to be doing stuff like this. I’m like, I’m absolutely gonna start stealing his shit. And it was a, uh, post you made with your daughter.
Conor Murphy:
Oh yeah. You know, it’s funny enough on the topic we’re going down, but Yeah, people love that. People are like, yeah, put more of her on there. And I’m like, I think we have some good content outside of her. And they’re like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We don’t give a shit. Just her.
Sevan Matossian:
Awesome. Yeah, one of the guys, oh, a friend of mine’s like, dude, steal, steal, plagiarize. Um, I, um, so a few days ago, or a Yeah, here it is. Yeah. Let’s, let’s see. Here
Conor Murphy:
We go. One of your friends. Who is it? Hailey. We’re going with Hailey. And where are we going? To the water party. We’re gonna stay at a hotel. Mm-hmm. Are you excited today? No, not today. <laugh>, tomorrow we have some errands we have to run today, right? Yeah. We gotta get some stuff done. Oh. It’s the only person
Sevan Matossian:
Who can
Conor Murphy:
Make eating cake. What happened? Podcast I got is on the microphone. You got a little bit of chips on the microphone. Yeah, but it’s, it is okay. Hey, you don’t have to apologize to me. You gotta apologize to Hurley. I, sorry. That’s, that’s Hurley And sorry, in one word or anyone else that, I’m sorry. Uh,
Sevan Matossian:
Uh Yes, that is Apropo.
Conor Murphy:
Uh,
Sevan Matossian:
A couple days ago, ma O’Brien, um, said she’s pulling out a semi-finals. A lot of people hit me up. They’re like, Hey, let’s do a show. Let’s do a show. It’s gonna get a shitload of views. Let’s do a show. Let’s talk about what, uh, and I ki I had no interest and actually doing it. Um, I was f i I did think it was interesting, all the, um, different speculations. Uh, the speculations I heard was one is that, uh, she was, uh, from, from a lesbian friend of mine that she was a lesbian and she was having trouble coming outta closet. I heard from other people that she, uh, um, she was, uh, people who do steroids to go to the games, do periodic checks, and if they don’t feel like they’re gonna pass the drug test that’s coming up at the event, they’re going to, they pull out. I heard, uh, from other people that it was, uh, mental health issues that she was just cracking. I heard from, uh, someone else that it was just to, um, get attention. It’s like what Chris Rock says. It’s, there’s this thing where it’s cool to play. Um, the victim, I was just hearing, uh, I heard, uh, someone wrote in the comments yesterday, you dumb fuck, she’s injured <laugh>. So I heard, you know what I mean? Is there any that I didn’t, uh, um, hit Connor? Have you heard any these? Uh,
Conor Murphy:
That’s more than I’ve heard, so, okay.
Sevan Matossian:
Yeah. And then, but I never gave it any thought. And I was just like, just watching it and kind of, my only thought was, is like, Hey, it’s a 18 year old, uh, kid. And I was trying to think of really the definition for mental health is for me is the volume of the voices in your head. Th that’s the definitive quality of mental health. So if your TV doesn’t work, if I say my TV’s broken, maybe it doesn’t turn on, or maybe there’s a line through the screen, or sometimes you get that weird TV where the volume just keeps going up and down, or there can be, you know what I’m mean? Or, or, or the pictures coming in and out. But with human beings, uh, I think mental health, for the most part, if you want to try to objectify it, it’s a, um, it’s the volume’s too loud or, or the cadence of thought between the cadence of the thought and the volume’s too loud in the head. Do you have any thoughts on that, Connor?
Conor Murphy:
Um, I do, and it’s, and it’s more so from, uh, one of my good friends, Chris Irwin, who does a lot of stuff with, with mental health and with mental health issues and how to kind of, you know, not just go to therapy, but how can you work on this stuff yourself? Like what, what, what are the, some of these things and, and how he describes it. Uh, the, there’s this, there’s this constant flow of thoughts that are going through your head and you have, you have no control over it. You have, you have zero control over the thought process. And he’s like, oh, here’s a test. Try to think about one topic for 30 seconds straight. You can only think about that one thing, and random things are gonna come into your head. But it’s a matter of what you’re listening to and what you’re choosing to decide is your truth or not.
Mm-hmm. I have, I have negative self-talk all the time. Mm-hmm. And when I feel my mental health isn’t, isn’t as good as I want it to be, it is when I’m listening to those thoughts, right? I think, Hey, hey, this is what’s going on. You suck. You’re not good enough for this. You’re not qualified for this. There’s that imposter syndrome. But I mean, those thoughts are just in and out and they’re always gonna come through. So I think that when, when mental health becomes an issue is when you are starting to, to listen, believe, and then harvest those own thoughts for yourself and to a point where it gets outta control. You can no longer physically control or, or, or choose any other option, but to listen to those thoughts and to believe those thoughts
Sevan Matossian:
And, and, and they start to cause like a physical manifestation in you. Like a, a constant fight or flight, like a drain on the whole fucking system.
Conor Murphy:
Like an, an actual, actual physical ailments, inability to see dizziness, sickness at all of these different things.
Sevan Matossian:
And, uh, so this morning, um, out of the blue, and you and I don’t text very often, less than less than once every three months just to check in or say hi, or Hey, I saw something you posted, or, you know, good job or whatever, but very, very infrequent, uh, contact. And you ba you sent me a text saying, Hey, uh, what do you think? What do you think’s up with Mal? And up until that point, I actually had never given her thought. And at the same time that I typed in her phone, you typed social media and we sent them and they crossed paths and it just, it just hit me like when you, a it was, it was 6 0 5, I was still in my underwear walking around my house drinking a cup of espresso, you know what I mean? It’s dark outside and it, I I was like, yeah, that’s it.
I I have, I have no doubt it’s not steroids. It’s not, it’s not she’s injured. It’s that she looked at her phone too much. Her, her, she, she, she, she, she got, she got, uh, I’m, she got hijacked. I’m, I’m not, I’m willing to bet 10,000 bucks on it. I I’m, I’m not even speculating you. You could speculate if you’re a gentler, kinder man to me, but a hundred percent she was all she had to do to fix herself in my opinion, was put this, put her phone down for a week and go camping and she’d be fine. That, that, I, I honestly do believe that.
Conor Murphy:
I, I think because I don’t know Mel,
Sevan Matossian:
I don’t know her either. I don’t know her either.
Conor Murphy:
And, and, but what I can do is, is see patterns. And when you see things like, you know, initially in the CrossFit world, when Haley, again, young person who has been, you know, bred through CrossFit competition success around Rich, um, but also, you know, she liked her like the TikTok dances and the other stuff like the, kinda like the fun-loving, caring young girl, the stuff that tho those girls go through. Yeah. And it got to the point where competition was too much. The the need. And, and almost like this, like your purpose is to suc succeed. And if you don’t succeed, you are letting people down. And those are thoughts that other people are putting in your head and also thoughts that you are putting in your head. Those are are thoughts that are gonna happen to people that are at the top. And it even goes further back when you talk about, um, unbelievable female athletes like Simone Biles. And now we’re taking these, you know, 16 to, let’s call it 19 year old girls, young women. And you are giving them every bit of attention from any person. Any dip shit around the world can chime in and say, you fucking suck. Or
Sevan Matossian:
You’re, you’re fat, you’re ugly, you have a pimple,
Conor Murphy:
Even worse rooting for you this year. Can’t wait to see you succeed. Can’t wait to see you crush it. She’s a shoe-in to win the games. And you don’t think about that as worse until you start to look at what, what that builds. And, and as you’re starting to train there, there’s no life outside of the training. Now everything that you do is very specific on winning. And it is on am I doing absolutely everything in my power, not just to win, but to not let everyone else down. Because you have this now belief that everyone is relying on you to do this thing. And there’s nothing, there’s no, you know, these are 16 to 19 year old young girls. They don’t know who they are. They don’t have enough principle to stand up. They don’t have, you know, a solid foundation to stand on is, this is who I am, nothing else is going to affect it.
Whether I win or I lose, this is who I am. This is my character, this is my person. And it, I mean, you’re in an, an, an adolescent stage where you are trying to figure that out. And I relate it back to, you know, some of the celebrities that I’ve worked with, and I think Kevin Hart actually had a really good quote. And it was like, the worst thing, the worst drug in the world is fame. And if you don’t know who you are when you find it or when you achieve it, there’s no fucking way you’re gonna figure out who it, who you are during that time. How do you know who your real friends are? How do you know who are, who are people that are with you for what reason? People wanna offer you contracts for what reason? Because they care about you.
Or they wanna make money off of you. And so now you have this whole world that social media is highlighting and exposing of, of, of people coming at you with everything. Oh, we support you so much, we want to give you this to do this. And it’s like, well, what if they don’t win? Now you’re letting those brands down. Now you’re letting this down. There’s, there’s just so much on, I highlighted on these, well, you say like 18 year old women, she was 17 right? When she first competed as an individual at the games. Yeah,
Sevan Matossian:
I she was a, um, she was a kids champ too. I think she, she just slaughtered. She was in the kids’ division. She was amazing too. So she was already tasting that early on.
Conor Murphy:
Right. And, and but wasn’t she actually 17 when she was confusing?
Sevan Matossian:
I, I think you’re, I I think you’re right. I think you’re right.
Conor Murphy:
It’s insanity at 17 years old,
Sevan Matossian:
A leap that men can’t make, by the way, physically. I, I think she made a leap that no man has ever made.
Conor Murphy:
No, I mean, I, I remember back in the days of like Nick Palladino, who, um, who was just mopped the floor in the teens champ and was, was pretty dang close to go from that teens in order to, to move on an individual, um, Angela DeCheco as well. And you had these studs that, that couldn’t make that jam ch at 17. It’s insane. But what comes with that, it’s not just the hard work. It’s not like, oh, she’s working so hard. She’s mentally drained. It is that now there’s a spotlight from every angle, from your family, from your friends, from people who want to be your friends, from sponsors, from people talking shit. And you, you live on this phone, you’re posting your workouts afterwards. Was my time good enough? Was any of this? And it’s like, I mean, I, I can’t, I, I empathize with her because I couldn’t imagine what it would feel like to be not 18 years old and to have that platform
Sevan Matossian:
And, uh, and to be, and to be looking at your phone as much as probably these people look at their phone. I can’t imagine. I, I can’t. So I know old people by old, I’m 51, but I mean, I know people older than me, dozens of them who the news has destroyed them. They don’t even do social media. And I watched for the last 30 years, the news has destroyed them. I hear come out of their mouth all the time. I’m so worried about this. I’m so worried about that. I’m so worried about this. And all they would have to do is turn their worrying. Hasn’t changed anything. Right? It hasn’t affected the world at all. Just like someone saying to Mao, um, uh, like I’ve said on this show a million times, you’re gonna be the most dominant athlete in the history of the world. All she has to do is fucking turn me off. It does. It shouldn’t affect her what I say at all. But, but it probably does. But it probably does. If she consumes it, they
Conor Murphy:
Don’t have the foundation to be able to block that off. That’s all they know. I mean, I’d always relate this to think about like Justin Bieber,
Uhhuh <affirmative>, you know, everyone was like, oh, what a, what a fucking idiot. What a loser buys a chrome Lamborghini. And I’m like, if you gave me an infinite amount of money at 15 years old, what the fuck do you think I would do with it? I would be so much worse. And then you have to point that finger too, at whoever’s saying this stuff. And I was a part of that. And you’re like, what do you expect to happen? What do you expect to happen when you bring someone off the streets as the most dominant heavyweight boxer in the world? Mike Tyson, who has known nothing but homelessness. His mother involved in prostitution somewhere on, on the, on the spectrum growing up as bullied. And then you give him everything he wants.
Sevan Matossian:
And I think he’s sodomized as a kid
Conor Murphy:
With no, I, I mean, likely Yeah. With no guidance. And in fact, the guidance that he was receiving was from people that had their own benefit involved with it. Which I can’t speak firsthand on what’s going on with Mal, but there’s people that are in her corner and there’s people that are benefiting from it. I’m not saying that’s the only reason why, but it’s like, what else do you expect people do to, I mean, and that’s to say, Hey, I gotta work on myself is the most courageous thing to do, rather than just go off the rails.
Sevan Matossian:
Um, Christine, uh, young, she’s not alone. There are a lot of athletes, um, that are dealing with this. I don’t think it’s just athletes. I think that there’s kids, I think there’s kids and adults all around us that are crumbling because they allow that device to, uh, to, to validate them. And
Conor Murphy:
Hundred
Sevan Matossian:
And, uh, he hehe. What do you think about this though? I, I wanna go back to what you said about, uh, who your true friends are. I’ve reached a point in my life that I wanna be used. And I, I know LA is a different scene, but I wanna be used. I get my value from people who are using me and this thing that like, Hey, no one should use you. I mean, don’t you have a friend who’s like really good at Frisbee? And so that’s what your relationship’s built around. And you have another friend that’s really good at like, um, getting up early in the morning and you know that, so you walk with that person in the morning cuz they haven’t, it, maybe there’s also on the other side of just like, I I, and I know people who sabotage all their relationships and all their close friendships because they put, because they expect so much from their real friends. Do you know what I mean? Do you, do you see what I’m like that I I I think she’s, oh, like I I think she’s surrounded by amazing people who are really focused. Matt O’Keefe, Matt Fraser, Sammy Katherine, um, uh, Amanda Barnhardt, um, uh, Jason Hopper. But I also don’t blame those people. Like everyone’s on a singular mission. And if you’re not on that mission, then then get the fuck. I I don’t hold that against any of them. If they say get the fuck off the treadmill, right? They’re not there to hold her hand.
Um, um, uh, psychologically are they, are they
Conor Murphy:
I don’t think so. But I think the difference between you and her is the foundation,
Sevan Matossian:
Right?
Conor Murphy:
You could have, you could have everyone want to use you for your, I mean, I see it too in the, in the nightlife world and working, uh, an artist comes into town and then I get a friend message me outta nowhere. What’s up man? Not much. What are you up to? Oh, I was thinking about going to x, y, z show tonight. Oh, were you, is it because you know that I trained this person <laugh> trained. Yeah.
Sevan Matossian:
Yeah.
Conor Murphy:
I would rather have people just straight up be like, Hey, long time no talk. Can you get me into
Sevan Matossian:
Yes, yes,
Conor Murphy:
Yes, yes. And it’s like either yes or no. And I will leave that there. But also I’ve had to go through the trials and tribulations of who the fuck am I? And when you and when you seem so solid because she is unbelievably disciplined. Yeah. And she has an unbelievable support staff of people that are there pushing her. It’s like, it’s almost like this facade of this solid foundation
Sevan Matossian:
When she Yeah. I never would’ve assumed she’d cracked, dude. I mean from just, I mean, like I said, I don’t know her, I don’t talk to her. I don’t follow on social media. But the little I see, she seems solid as a rock.
Conor Murphy:
Same. And, and again, this is speculation. I’m not as bold to be like, this is a hundred percent what’s going on from what I’m saying. But in the same sense it’s, it’s repeating itself and there’s one common denominator. And you’re absolutely right when answering that question. It’s not just athletes. In fact, it may even potentially be worse. It’s popularity in high school and in middle school times a bajillion times. Everyone in the world that has this platform, you have a friend that post a video of her dancing, cool TikTok awesome. A hundred thousand likes. Oh my gosh, you’re so cool. This is so amazing. It is no different than the person next to them doing the same thing and getting four likes. And you’re gonna tell me that’s not gonna play a role on someone’s worth if they don’t know who they are. Fucking, that’s, that’s the worst thing you could possibly do.
Sevan Matossian:
And a hundred percent outta your control,
Conor Murphy:
Out of your control through
Sevan Matossian:
And yet, and yet affecting you and yet affecting you. You let it and yet you let it affect you. Yeah. I think she got, I think she got hammered by, I think she got, um, I think she uh, are you familiar with this term? The boogieman? I think she saw the boogieman. I think she’s got, I think she scared the shit out of herself. I think she saw so much stuff on social media that she, she lost touch with, uh, uh, uh, anything substantive. I think it’s as easy as putting this thing down, dude, I think you can just walk away from this for, for a week and, and, and you heal up. You think it’s that easy?
Conor Murphy:
I don’t know. I don’t know because I haven’t, I haven’t been in that scenario. I was never, I was never good enough at anything where people were, where I was getting that amount of attention. Sure. I have like a, you know, a, a small following on Instagram, a decent following on Instagram because of, of things that I’ve done. But it wasn’t because I was the best at something. It wasn’t because it was assumed and posted about and talked about me being a shoe in winning. And then you have a bad training day and you look on your phone and you see someone else, the people you’re competing against that, that are doing all these great things. I remember when I was my last year competing on a team, I had to unfollow my friends. Anyone else. I had to unfollow rich. I had to unfollow everyone else that was training and doing that stuff. Cause I’d look at them and then feel inadequate. I would look at the things they were doing and I would feel inadequate. Wow. Wow. And, and I, and I promise you when I did that, it took off so much pressure cuz I just wasn’t seeing it. Right? I didn’t need to see Tola power clean and jerking 405 pounds. Didn’t need to see it.
Sevan Matossian:
Right.
Conor Murphy:
And then at the CrossFit games, same thing. Spencer Hendell was like, Hey, we’re not the strongest team, but just focus on our bar. Don’t look around at everyone else who’s cleaning. And especially on team, right? Cause you can have those just unbelievably strong athletes. Don’t look around at what other people’s openers are. Let’s just all hit our lifts. We all hit our lifts. It was our highest finish at the CrossFit games that year when we just put our proverbial phone down and said, let’s just, let’s, let’s hit these weights.
Sevan Matossian:
I I had, I had a friend, uh, who is a very, very, very, uh, tough man. He’s had a very, uh, a, a life of a lot of, uh, personal struggle that he’s put himself through. And I heard him say in the same day, man, she’s such a bitch. She should just fucking sack it up. Um, these kids are so soft these days. And then later on I heard him complain about something that someone said about him on social media. And it’s funny, I didn’t think of it till just now when I’m staring at you. And, um, yesterday, uh, Andrew Hiller, I, I don’t know if he said this on the air, but I think Andrew, uh, would be okay with me sharing it. He was saying that he’s a fucking rock. Like he goes over to Reddit and finds a thread that’s just bashing him and reads it. But he did say every once in a while, something will get under his skin and he’ll just feel his fucking blood boil. And, and, and the and, and, uh, and these are people who are trained or fancy themselves to be, um, impervious, right? Stoic. Yeah. Yeah. Or, or, or, you know, the, the, some, these are men who’ve had people shoot, shoot at them a hundred times in their life and try to kill them. And yet something that someone says on social media fucking rattles ’em.
Conor Murphy:
And here’s what I, here’s what I, it’s crazy. Here’s what I truly believe the issue is.
Sevan Matossian:
Yeah.
Conor Murphy:
It’s not, it’s not things that are just blasphemy. It’s not things that are outta left field. Someone could comment on my post and be like, Connor, you suck. Great. Whatever. See you later. However, there are these constant things going through my head, this negative self-talk about things that I may or may not believe to be true that are going through there. And when someone strikes that chord or someone says something, or I see someone doing something that is an insecurity of mine, that’s where it gets in there.
Sevan Matossian:
Oh wow.
Conor Murphy:
Wow. Something that I’m constantly telling myself. Um, you know, you’re, you’re not qualified to do this. Even though, even though I had, even though I was able to prove myself in the military, you know, I wanted to retire. I wanted to be a seal and retire as a seal. And if someone can creep in under that and try to talk about what happened to me, oh, that will. And it like, and, and I see that. And, and it’s not like the anatomy ob it’s not like my g p s, you know, telling me to go one way. I go the wrong way and I get mad at the car. That’s a different, it, it gets to me. It’s because this negative self-talk is what I’m already telling myself. And it’s already in my head. It’s already under my skin. So if I don’t have the ability to just brush that by my own thoughts Yeah. If someone strikes that court, that is going to devastate me
Sevan Matossian:
O on on the other end. Um, what do you think about Um, I think it’s, I think like maybe negative stuff you see on social media is, um, fentanyl and positive stuff you see on social media is heroin. Meaning, what do you think about all these people like rushing to, to say nice things to mal? Like they think that they’re being benevolent, but to me, part of me thinks, oh shit, are they just, are they just giving her more drugs that’s like, did they suspect, oh, she’s addicted to fentanyl. Everyone pile her now with uh, pile her up. Yeah. Like stuff like this. Now, uh, scroll down and look at this list of people and, and I apologize. I’m not, I’m not taking a dig at the people who are, uh, who are trying to console her, but that’s fair. They’re just giving her more look at all this medicine. But it’s just another, it’s just, it’s just, it’s still in the addiction family. Right? It’s still in like, Hey, you’re letting, it’s not the fact that this thing is influencing you, good or bad. It’s the fact that you can’t stop this thing from influencing you.
Conor Murphy:
That’s, that’s exactly, I was messaging you this morning and I I wanted that, that kind of discourse is these are I think even more so a part of the problem. It might not be the negative self-talk, it could be the, the pressure of the world that you’re putting on an 18 year old woman of, of you are the next one, yours is this crush the open announcement crush this workout. And again, I can’t say for certain, I don’t know Mel, I don’t know anyone of those guys, you know, more than, more than their first and last name. However, you’re, you know, I, I, I trained a guy’s name is, uh, is Tate Martel. And if you wa, if anyone ever watched QB one or anyone knew anything about Bishop Gorman, you know who Tate Martel is. And Tate Martel was recruited as a 13 year old before he even went to high school as a signed recruit from University of Washington. They were sending him 10,000 pieces of mail to his front porch. You walk in there and you have just mail covering your front porch and you have this unbelievably talented, unbelievably hardworking athlete that I got a chance to work with from, from a very young age and more, I’m talking about like dedicated training his whole life going to this. But here’s another 16 year old, his entire career. Never lost the game for Bishop Gorman, sophomore, junior, senior year through one interception his senior year with like a hundred passing touchdowns.
Sevan Matossian:
Crazy, crazy.
Conor Murphy:
But his entire life from that point on was everyone telling him how incredible he is and how he was gonna be the next, he was the only five star recruit that was under six foot. It was, and everything was so positive. And I don’t know if he had those positive influences in his life that that was able to keep him humble when adversity started to come to him. And I still love this kid to death. I still stay in touch with him, but there was so much that was there, but anything, all that was there, there was no okay. Be like, Hey Tate, you suck. And he is like, yeah, I just rushed for more than like any, and I’m literally setting records for anyone and everyone. That’s not what’s gonna bring them down. However, that positive social media, the guy having 275,000 followers is a 14 year old. What do you expect to happen?
Sevan Matossian:
Right, right, right. Hey, dude, I’ve seen people go from 1000 to 12,000 Instagram followers and it fucking changed who they are. I
Conor Murphy:
Don’t doubt that. I, I I
Sevan Matossian:
Can see you. I’m like, how the fuck did that change you? Uh, uh, Shannon Maderas, uh, the Champ’s mom, I’m very thankful Justin is not into social media. He had same pressure. He’s young. He is young. He feels it. He had, uh, same talk, uh, when Matt retired, uh, he wanted to compete against him. It’s tough on these athletes. Crazy. I I, yes. But they can just turn it off. You don’t have to do it. You can just turn it off. Right.
Conor Murphy:
Or you can have a structure. You have someone like Justin who is a God-fearing man. And you can, you have something that that brings him back to. And I don’t, I don’t wanna, I don’t wanna get into like religion. Like, you should believe this, you should do this stuff. But when you have a foundation that you can take that positive and negative stuff out, it’s not gonna blow up your head. If they tell you you’re the best, you may be the fittest person on earth two times fittest, you’re gonna be a legacy when you have that stuff to pull back, family, friends, morals, God, anything that has that built foundation, you’re gonna be able to withstand it. So whether he, and that’s probably one of the reasons why he’s not so obsessed with social media is that he doesn’t need it. It’s not feeding him.
Sevan Matossian:
Oh. Oh, wow. Wow. Um, you know, I had, I had Sarah on the show like three months ago, uh, Sarah Sigmund’s daughter, and she was explaining to me the two different kinds of self-esteem. And the way I understood it is you have one that’s kind of like the superficial one. Not that it’s bad, but it’s in your, your ability physically. Right. Which, and then you have another one as your, your, your trueness to your values. And it started really making me look around at the, at the environment and it, I started really like tripping on mayhem and, and because they’re a value-driven like organization,
Conor Murphy:
Unbelievably valued.
Sevan Matossian:
Yeah. And it’s, and its nuts.
Conor Murphy:
It’s more than one
Sevan Matossian:
Thing. What? Say it again.
Conor Murphy:
With more than one thing.
Sevan Matossian:
Oh, he explained. What do you mean?
Conor Murphy:
I mean, rich has always been open about his faith, right? But he’s also prioritized his family, right? I mean, his wife, his kids, his dad, right. His hometown, his pride in doing, you know, doing what he loves and even if it’s going against the grain, and I’ve seen a couple slips from Rich, I’ve seen people get under his skin about certain Right, right. Not enough to like, you know, destroy him. And, and I’m certainly not sitting from a pedestal of saying no one’s affected me, and I’m not even nearly close to that level. However, we do kind of similarly look alike. He’s just a lot fitter and more accomplished than all
Sevan Matossian:
<laugh>,
Conor Murphy:
You
Sevan Matossian:
Guys, I never realized that you guys could be brothers.
Conor Murphy:
I could be like this, like the, you know, the, the, the half brother he never wanted. Um, I can, I can have those values then.
Sevan Matossian:
He’s crazy value driven. And so that’s something that no one can take from you.
Conor Murphy:
No one, no matter
Sevan Matossian:
And no, and no one can. And and what can they even talk about it, right? Like if someone like those are yours to be true to or not to be true to
Conor Murphy:
The, the only thing that I’ve seen get Rich upset is like in 20, maybe 16, um, at Waap Polooza, one of the other guys who was competing like mentioned that he was balding and he got so upset at it. He did. It was, it was flares. I, you, you’ll have to remind me about who was saying something but had like, done well in Waza and Rich’s response was something like, Hey, congratulations on finishing something here. And it was like, if you’d like, I can give you one of my first place medals from regionals. I’ve got it upstairs in a drawer somewhere.
Sevan Matossian:
Was it like face-to-face? The guy they were in? Oh,
Conor Murphy:
It was, it was social media, but it, like, back and I wanna say like, they’ve reposted it just because it was just so good and someone had like come at rich in that completely innocent way being like, we’re similar. Like, you know, we do this and we’re both balding. And he just, maybe that’s not like a, maybe that’s just, you know, a a a friendly jab back, but you’re not gonna get rich insecure about his religion, whether you talk about God being great or God not existing. He is so value driven and core with his family and everything. It’s like, it, it’s solid.
Sevan Matossian:
Um, you think, can you give me like what you think just a, a pure speculation of, of how you think it unraveled for her? Like if it, if it was social media, I know, I know you’re saying that it’s, it’s a, it’s a possibility and I’m saying it’s a hundred percent that, can you gimme an example of what that looks like for, from, for, for Mal? Yeah. So yeah,
Conor Murphy:
From a purely ignorant standpoint, and I just wanna come off by saying it could be right, it could be wrong, but from seeing it multiple times, it could
Sevan Matossian:
Be steroids.
Conor Murphy:
And at level, I, no, I would, I would be willing to bet a with.
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