#911 – Live Call In | First Look At Semifinals w/ Brian Friend

Sevan Matossian (00:00):

My kids are asleep. Started at 6:00 PM Bam. We’re live. Good morning, Brian.

Brian Friend (00:04):

Good morning,

Sevan Matossian (00:05):

Guys. Uh, I, I wanna share something, uh, with you guys that can happen to every single one of us, especially people who live in the city. And I want you to listen carefully cuz this, uh, ties in very closely with how you should be behave at your, uh, local affiliate. If you, if you’re walking down the street and you live in a city, let’s say Baltimore, uh, Philadelphia, Chicago, New York, and you saw your fellow man who is in desperate need, uh, 99% of you in my 51 years, I’ve never seen anyone stop to help those people ever. Not once. Holy shit, Caleb.

Caleb Beaver (00:36):

Good morning.

Sevan Matossian (00:37):

You kidding me?

Caleb Beaver (00:39):


Sevan Matossian (00:40):

You’re fucking the man. Did you see Brian’s notes on this?

Caleb Beaver (00:43):

Let me see. I haven’t checked my email yet.

Sevan Matossian (00:45):

Uh, no, he didn’t send them in the email. He sent them in a text.

Brian Friend (00:48):

Yeah, but I sent ’em in a text with only you and Suza, cuz that’s where you sent the text last

Sevan Matossian (00:52):

Night. Okay. Um, Caleb, I am going to, uh, can you, can you send those over to Caleb, Brian, while I go off of my little rant here real quick. You’re the man. I appreciate it. Um, if, if you, so you, you’re walking down the street, you see a guy passed out on the side of the road and, and you don’t do shit, right? You step over him as you roll into your, uh, restaurant to eat. But if you were hiking on some trail out in the middle of nowhere, you were in Hawaii and you came across, you hadn’t seen another human being in 12 hours, and you saw someone ailing on the side of the road, you would stop and help them. You’d be like, what happened? Did they break their ankle or they hurt? You would treat them like they deserve to be treated.


You would treat them like how you would want to be treated. And yet, in my 51 years, I don’t see people doing that. Yesterday I walked by a giant pile of poop sitting in the middle of a pier in one of the richest cities in the country. And no, and I just sat there. I’m like, wow, no one is gonna stop and pick this up so that another one of their fellow men doesn’t step, step in it. Oh, we we’re, we’re, we’re on the boardwalk here. And, uh, there’s a man eating out of trash and no one goes up to talk to him or offer him or see what’s going on. I get it. I’m, I’m not, I’m not judging those people. What I’m telling you is, is if you behave like that, you’re one of those people. That’s who you become. You become, um, you become, you don’t want to be that person.


And so you have an opportunity every time you walk into your CrossFit gym to be a totally different person. And what do I mean by that? And this was all inspired by a series of events. But if you attend a gym and you want that gym to stay open because you like your local affiliate, treat the people in there like they’re fucking angels. Like it’s your honor to be there. Do not neglect strangers. So you’ve been going to a gym for five years and someone new walks in, you walk over to that person, you say hi, you introduce yourself and you say, hi, I’m sev I’ve been coming here for, uh, five years and, uh, I haven’t seen you here before. If there’s anything I can help you with when you’re here, uh, let me know. It’s a great experience. But sometimes it can be a confusing or things can move fast that those you are, you’re obligated to do those things. If you even want to be even considered a a, a civilized human being, an adult, a he a healthy soul. Let me tell you, at the end of the day, God’s not gonna give a fuck when you go to heaven. How many times you fucking accepted Jesus. If you can’t, if you can’t, uh, uh, behave, uh, behave properly,


Practice treating the people around you better. I keep hearing all these crazy stories of people who go to CrossFit gyms and are treated like shit. It’s fucking nuts. It’s absolutely nuts. I I hate leaving my ood loop cuz I see what a, what I live here on this planet with zombies. Just be nice to people. Be be those people in the affiliate that make it, do more. Have a social contract with yourself to be really, really good to the new people who come into your affiliate. You know who you’re helping. You’re helping the owner of that affiliate. Make the job of the owner of your affiliate. Very, very easy. Walk right over. I know it’s uncomfortable. No one wants to talk to a stranger. You just wanna get your workout in. But be nice to those people. Go over, welcome them. Yeah, be friendly. Thank you Patrick. Be friendly. Yeah. Um, so, uh, yeah. It’s, it’s one of the reasons. It’s one, it’s one of the reasons why I don’t want to travel. Every time I travel, I just, it, it’s, it’s the, um, you know, someone explained it to me like this. People go to Los Angeles to get something and I get it, I get it.


But if you lived in a small town, like if you like the town I live in, like SoCal, uh, you have a social contract with that place. You’re raising kids there and you want the place to be better. And so there’s, you know, there’s things that you should be doing. And, and one, I’ll give you a, an easy, super easy example of this is if you see kids who are trying to cross the street, you, you absolutely stop. You have to just be like, those were probably my, you have to imagine them as your kids. You want to try to make money for your affiliate owner. You want, you wanna welcome people, okay? Because remember that affiliate can go away. And I have, I have a lot of friends who live in pl towns where there’s one affiliate and there’s not another one within a hundred miles. So if that affiliate sucks or if those people in there suck, then, then there’s shit outta luck. Oh man, it’s the worst. You could go to LA to see me someone. It’s the worst, absolute worst. Uh, three, three workouts released. Amazing. Caleb, why are you here?

Caleb Beaver (05:53):

I got a random day off.

Sevan Matossian (05:55):


Caleb Beaver (05:56):

I worked all weekend, so That is awesome. You get a good day off in the middle of the week.

Sevan Matossian (05:59):

Holy cow. Well good to see you. Thanks for coming. Likewise. Do you wanna say hi to Brian or you don’t have to,

Caleb Beaver (06:05):


Brian Friend (06:06):

Good morning.

Sevan Matossian (06:07):

Uh, but, but it’s good if you say hi to him cuz we want Brian to feel welcome here. We don’t want it. Like, I don’t want him to text me after his to Caleb. Doesn’t make me feel welcome. I’m not coming on the show anymore. Right. Uh, the, the guy Alaska, uh, homestead, the closest affiliate is about, uh, 12 days drive from me. Oh, Brian. Um, so, so it’s coming, it’s happening again. We’re going to take the, uh, we’re gonna take the, some of the fittest human beings in the world, 300 of the fittest, uh, human beings in the world. We’re gonna give them a test and then, um, they’re gonna be invited to the CrossFit games, 300 men and 300 women

Brian Friend (06:47):

That they will have a chance to qualify for the CrossFit games. That’s right.

Sevan Matossian (06:51):

Uh, three of the, I know I’m in that thread with you and, and people are trying to get the vernacular right. Three of the tests.

Brian Friend (07:00):

Yep. They’ve, that’s the terminology that they’re going with. And I don’t care what they call them, I just want it to be consistent.

Sevan Matossian (07:09):

Fair. Me too. So, so three of the tests, um, of the, um, for, there’s an individual group who’s going and, um, three of the tests have been released. And we don’t know if it’s three of six, three of seven, three of five, three of eight, but we just know three have been released.

Brian Friend (07:24):

I would say there’s no chance that there are less than six. Um, I would be shocked if they’re having a three day competition and there’s only one event on any one of those days. Um, so I think at a minimum we’ll get two, two and two. I’m hopeful that we’ll get two, three and two and I would be surprised if there are any more than that unless there are multiple 50 point scored events like they had at the age group, semi-final.

Sevan Matossian (07:52):

And, uh, and why do you, um, why, why do you want more than six?

Brian Friend (07:57):

In 2021, the first year of the semi-finals, there were, uh, about half of the semi-finals at that time had six and half, had seven scored events. And on the back end of that I did a study, especially at the Granite Games for the men, where we just removed any one of the seven tests and the games qualifiers changed every time. Um, now you could, you know,

Sevan Matossian (08:22):

Anyone at the top change?

Brian Friend (08:25):

Uh, well the article is behind the paywall. Okay. We can’t read it, but I probably have it somewhere on my Google Drive if I really wanted to find it. The, the backend work.

Sevan Matossian (08:34):

It it’s okay. It’s okay. I’ll, that, that question will come up again, I’m sure.

Brian Friend (08:37):

Yeah. Maybe I’ll, I’ll find it for a future. But, uh, anyway, I’m just, I I think that, um, in a live competition with the caliber equality of athlete that we have here, Anth and three days of test, um, there’s plenty of, obviously there’s plenty of things that can be tested in this sport. Uh, we know that they’re gonna have to take a test that at the minimum is gonna be 12 events at the games, likely 14 to 15, testing half of that in the semi-final scene with seven. And if we have 14 at the games seems more than, uh, acceptable and appropriate to me. I think that it, it allows for specifically to test for things that you need to have at the games that you don’t see on the field of play. How do you recover between events when there’s a really short time to recover? Do you decide to have a back-to-back event or have an event where it might be like, you know, cuz they could always do something that’s not necessarily a back-to-back event, but it’s like the men have event four and then event five and the women have event four and then event five. So instead of having three hours between, you only have an hour and 20 minutes between when you take the floor or something like that, change the variable of recovery because that is always changing and relevant at the games.

Sevan Matossian (09:47):

And you’re saying more tests would, um, get us a more accurate, accurate representation of who the fittest is?

Brian Friend (09:56):

Yeah, I think so. I think it’s, you know, it’s the same way as, uh, when we do the disc off. If you gimme a two day tournament, there’s 50 guys that can win three day tournament. That number goes cuts in half four day tournament. I think there’s only 10.

Sevan Matossian (10:08):

You think it’s a more valid test with more, um, when it tests that

Brian Friend (10:13):

If you, I mean it’s

Sevan Matossian (10:14):

Capable of testing more time domains, recovery, uh, different modalities, the whole shebang.

Brian Friend (10:19):

Yeah, I think the, the more tests, the obvious reasons, you know, the more tests you have within, within reason, of course, you know, I don’t wanna kill anyone, I don’t, but, uh, that the, the vessel rise at the top. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (10:30):

Nicole. Hi. Good morning. Thank you very much. And, um, and when the semi-final workouts have been released and six of them have been released, do we know sorry, teams? Yes. Six teams. Do we know two questions. Do we know for sure that it, that that teams will be limited to six? And the second question is have at regionals and semi-finals have teams and individual and individuals always had the same number of tests?

Brian Friend (10:58):

Don’t know for sure if there, if that’s the limit, if there will only be six, I think that it likely is, um, but I wouldn’t be upset if there was a seventh one that popped up. It’s just like the, the over, uh, and then to your other question, um, I think they’re, it’s usually similar, but they only take the four or six times. What is, I don’t, we don’t, are you talking about individuals or teams and how do you know?

Sevan Matossian (11:20):

Oh, I think he’s talking about teams, meaning he’s, he’s saying we don’t know how many tests for sure, but somehow some schedule must have been released. And so Bob Brian’s saying that only, um, they’ll only take the floor six times. Is that what they’re Caleb,

Caleb Beaver (11:31):

They’re, they’re saying that crosser released the heat times and everything to the individuals and teams, and it sounds like they’re only taking the floor six times. Individuals are

Sevan Matossian (11:39):


Brian Friend (11:40):

Still doesn’t mean that they’re won’t necessarily be multiple tests. Obviously we, you know, we’ve seen before where they take the floor once and have multiple 50 point tests, they could do it back to back workouts as we’ve seen at regionals and at the games. Right. But the big, the big theme here is that CrossFits released some information early, earlier than we were expected. Uh, we were expecting to get this information tomorrow, Thursday, but they haven’t given us all the details. And there are a lot of questions, I believe, on the team side of things about exactly how things are gonna play out in each workout. There’s still some unknowns and already in the individual workouts there are some unknowns as well. And I think that, you know, I, I mentioned this in these articles I’ve been writing, like I think that’s okay, but I also think there’s an element of it that is extremely risky depending on what the details that have not been released are.


And the reason for that is because while it, it is true that it doesn’t matter relative to your competitor. Like right now, my understanding is with the information we have, we have and onsite, they’re gonna brief the athletes with more specific information. Once that happens in Orlando or Africa, everyone around the world is gonna know it. And if there is a standard, let’s just say for the teams, for example, if there’s a standard where the legless seated road climb from the floor is extremely demanding, there’s a tape mark on the ground that you have to start behind, above or below and then go to the top, come back down, show control, and your feet have to stay above your hips the entire time. Let’s say it’s the hardest version of the movement, and you’re telling that to teams on Thursday morning that have to do it on what, whatever day it is, Saturday or Sunday, that, that it’s the last test, so it’s on Sunday.


Well, they don’t really have a lot of time to prepare for that relative to the teams that are going the next week. And so you might end up in a situation where there’s a, let’s just say the last place team in North America, east that’s only had three, two days notice for this really difficult standard. Now of course you could be practicing the very difficult standard on your own, even not knowing it. And if you practice for the harder one, then you’re prepared for the easier one, which is what I would advise every team or individual athletes to be practicing. But either way, what’s the le what’s the adaptation that athletes at these level can have in two days during a competition as opposed to nine days, seven, which of those days they are not competing, meaning that the same last place team in North America West has seven extra days to make sure that their worst athlete can meet that standard so that even though they’re fit enough on every other area, that they don’t run into a, uh, an obstacle in the last test that would otherwise potentially prevent them from making the games.


And then in Europe, you have twice as much time as that,

Sevan Matossian (14:21):

Which doesn’t affect the, um, competition at all. Since the semi-finals are competitions unto themselves, they’re not competing against the people who are at the other semi-finals.

Brian Friend (14:34):

Well, just begs this question, why bother releasing the workouts early at all? Like what’s the point of releasing ’em early with partial information? It’s you say, you know what, so that every team that’s competing has at least a week to prepare. Yes. But if there’s critical information missing, then all the teams in week one don’t have the same opportunity to prepare

Sevan Matossian (14:51):

It. Um, um, also, and I think you would agree with this, and everyone would agree with this, that for an online test, um, leaving out critical information to the last minute is, is complete idiocy. It’s what causes all the problems. But for, um, live competitions, especially like the CrossFit games, it adds some suspense and we kind of like it, right? So you find out that there’s a run and you don’t know until you get there that it’s actually a mile run straight up a hill and it’s okay that they left that out. Right? That part’s cool. We like that as the fan, the spectator, the athlete, right? You find you get there, it’s gonna be a rope climb and you find out that, um, it’s actually, uh, it’s a 60 foot rope and it’s not a 12 foot rope and it’s over a lake, right? I mean, we like those types of things are okay. It’s correct.

Brian Friend (15:37):

Yeah. And you, and so the, the semi-finals is threading the needle between the two.

Sevan Matossian (15:42):


Brian Friend (15:42):

Because I think that they still wanna have this unknown unknowable withhold some details till the end, kind of a mystery, right? But what I’m just throwing out there, and obviously not knowing what those withheld details are, I don’t know how impactful it will or won’t be on, on the week one competitors, but is that a variable that you wanna have be more relevant in week one than the other two weeks? Because at this point, that’s what you’re communicating to me at least.

Sevan Matossian (16:09):

Another example, which would make other sports seem more amateur, but which makes I think our sports seem just better, is the sandbag, right? The bag only goes up to 240 pounds, but they can bring out a bag at 250 pounds at the last minute and we don’t judge them for that either. Those, those minor tweaks, like we’re actually,

Brian Friend (16:26):

Again, that’s in an isolated competition. That’s one event that’s happening at that stage of the season. This is seven events happening across the world to me. I would, you know, I would be releasing the workouts, I would be sending the athletes written explanations of flow and standard. I would have, uh, video demonstrations of them for people to review. And I know, and I, I’m just accepting the fact that we’re taking some of the mystery out of it. But we’re giving each of the athletes at least a week to prepare with all the information that they need, knowing that at that what we’re gonna get is an expression of, of their fitness, not of their, you know, ability to adapt to something in a day where someone else has eight days and someone else has 20, uh, 15 days.

Sevan Matossian (17:10):

Gotcha. Uh, Paulina, congratulations on graduating. Uh, I, I forget what school you went to. Uh, something in Texas. Uh, Paulina’s here every morning with us. And, uh, she came out to Greg’s Broken Science where I met her. And uh, she’s also coming out to, uh, Santa Cruz on June 3rd for the up there. Uh, yes. Thank you Nicole. Um, Paul, hi. Good morning. There. You’re, hey. Um, okay, so three workouts. Let’s talk about them, uh, briefly. Uh, you say workout, uh, Brian has an article out on b friendly fitness.com. Hey, Brian, when I go to your website, I couldn’t find the article. I had to just use the link you sent me.

Brian Friend (17:53):

Um, it’s not one, it’s not one of the featured ones, so it’s not at the top. So you have to scroll down like, uh, two scrolls.

Sevan Matossian (18:00):

Oh, okay. So you’re, you’re, you’re like, um, the other, uh, media outlets out there. You, you want to keep it challenging for us to consume your content. I appreciate that.

Brian Friend (18:10):

Um, I mean, all of the things that are up there now, it is actually up there in the top. Oh, there,

Sevan Matossian (18:15):

It’s, oh, alright, perfect.

Brian Friend (18:17):

But it wasn’t, um, last night we made it the article live and I sent it to some of you guys, but we had an advertise it as live, so if you weren’t looking on there, you weren’t have found it and we hadn’t made it, moved it into a featured slot yet.

Sevan Matossian (18:30):

Um, do you think, uh, workout number one is a, uh, you say it’s a long workout. I why are there three machines in there and why do I hate machines and do other people hate machines? <laugh>, like why do I want to go to the CrossFit games and watch someone’s pool on a skier doing a salt runner running? It’s basically running in place. It’s pulling on some strings that hang from a machine and, uh, and, and it’s, and it’s riding a, a, a stationary bike from the seventies. Like,

Brian Friend (18:58):

Certainly not a bike from the seventies, but

Sevan Matossian (19:01):

Yeah, this is worse from the stone age. The bike weighs 800 pounds. Uh, I mean, if, if it was to break the bike up with a sledgehammer, it would be a better event. It’s more spectator friendly.

Brian Friend (19:11):

Yeah, I mean this is, there’s, you know, I I in our, in our kind of what to expect for semi-finals, I had been hoping that there would be a workout that everyone would take it at least 25 to 30 minutes to do that would be very physically demanding. That would, and it would be early in the week so that there would, we would be testing that recoverability kind of, you know, I think that we’re gonna see some patterns from days gone by from, uh, regionals show up over the programming this year and that this is one of having a long event to start the weekend. And obviously the last time we, um, or we’ve seen, you know, triple three, it’d be a long event to start the weekend, uh, of semi-finals before. And, and it’s pretty boring to watch 3000 meter row, three mile run. They

Sevan Matossian (19:57):

Feel obligated because these are important tests for fitness and, and like I was thinking, uh, maybe they just put all three of them in. They, Adrian, maybe Adrian just put all three of them in to get them out of the way. So it’s upward and onward for the rest of the, uh, competition.

Brian Friend (20:11):

Yeah, I mean one of the, one of the things that we got kind of early access to when it came to individual programming with the release of the team programming is the equipment that would be available. So we knew they’d have echo bikes, AirRunner skis, and rowers on site. We could assume that they’re gonna use most, if not all of those at some point in the individual programming. And if you’re one of those people that likes to think about what’s still to come, the one machine that’s missing is the rower. So maybe we’ll see a row in one of the later tests, but yeah, you have all three of them or three other, you know, machines here in this test. It’s a pretty, I think it’s a pretty boring tests to watch. And my, the big question is how hard is this sled pull

Sevan Matossian (20:51):

Because, and what if they’re pulling a torque tank

Brian Friend (20:54):

Or whatever they’re pulling? Sure,

Sevan Matossian (20:56):

Yeah. But that would be a complete disaster.

Brian Friend (21:02):

You know, I’m looking at the time cap 30 minutes and I don’t see this taking 30 minutes for anyone. I mean the bike plus the run plus the row, I was thinking about it, I’m like, if you’re the worst person at all of those things, it’s like five, 10 and five minutes. I don’t see these sl these poles taking 10 minutes to do. So even though it looks like a long working on paper, 30 minute cap, I just feel like no one’s gonna hit the time cap. And maybe I’m wrong. I mean they, you know, they’ve done all the testing or whatever. Maybe I’m wrong about that, but that’s just how it feels to me. <laugh> and, and I and I and I, you know, I think back to the, the last time we saw a lot of machines with a rope, a hand over hand rope pull, which was the, the rope chipper in the 2016 CrossFit games and the, none of the machines mattered at all. It all came down to the sled pull.

Sevan Matossian (21:51):

Uh, I I Is that the video you sent us? Yeah. Um, do do you have that Caleb? It’s, it’s a, it’s a little YouTube clip. Um, p people are asking what the weight of the sled is. I’m assuming it’s the weight that the bottom 180 for men, 2 25 for women. And also, why do you think that the last sled pull is longer has something to do with the layout of the floor?

Brian Friend (22:09):

Yeah, uh, so they list the weights there, um, 180 and 2 25, but we don’t know if that’s the total weight. We don’t know if that’s the weight added to an object, you know, if it was torque take plus 225 pounds sled plus 225 pounds, or if that, you know, whatever the distances are, 84, 84, 92 feet. I’m assuming that that’s, they’re gonna be pulling this the length of the floor as they did in this three times. And that’s why I actually think the entire workout is gonna come down to the sled pull. If you, you know, if you remember this workout, what Josh Bridges beat everyone to that rope climb, and I think he finished eighth or ninth out of 10 in the heat. Brad Frankowski was like second or third or fourth or something to the rope who’s close with a lot of guys and absolutely manhandled the, the, the sled pole and picked up what would be his fourth event win of the weekend in his rookie year, that season. Um,

Sevan Matossian (22:58):

I wasn’t able to follow. Why do you think the last rope climb will be longer? 94 feet rope

Brian Friend (23:02):

Pull if they’re, they’re pulling it 84 feet from the rig towards the finish line. Yeah. And then maybe they walk the rope back and they pull it 84 feet back towards the rig and then they walk the rope back and then when they pull it to the finish line the last time, it might be mandated that you don’t pull it to the 84 foot line, but an extra eight feet across the finish line and your time is registered when the sled crosses.

Sevan Matossian (23:23):

Oh, okay. There’s like some sort of chip chip there or something. Maybe

Brian Friend (23:26):

Could be that I’m speculating, you know, to me, if it is that layout, you could just as easily do 84, 84, 84, turn around, run eight feet and cross the finish line and the chips on your ankle and you get a time. Um, but that’s, that’s my first guess.

Sevan Matossian (23:41):

Let me ask you this, uh, something else you say in the article is that you hope it’s a thick the rope. I just got a rope from Rogue and I’ve been pulling sled like a fucking maniac for the last two months. I absolutely love it. I think it’s the coolest thing to do, pull the sled and then push it back, pull the sled and um, and that rope is a hundred feet long, but it’s skinny.

Brian Friend (24:00):

Mm-hmm. <affirmative>,

Sevan Matossian (24:01):

And I don’t remember seeing an option to buy a thick rope, uh, from Rogue that’s a hundred feet long. Have, have you ever

Brian Friend (24:09):

Seen one? Has there been a No, but there are, you know, how many times has there been something that wasn’t available for sale at Rogue that became available for sail at Rogue after a competition?

Sevan Matossian (24:18):

Yeah, totally.

Brian Friend (24:19):

And even if it’s an extra half of inch think thick, that makes a difference.

Sevan Matossian (24:24):

Yeah. And I would prefer a thicker one e I mean, the thin one’s good, but I would prefer, oh, here we go. Uh, I just does that, does that thing come in a hundred foot?

Caleb Beaver (24:33):

This one’s 50 feet. Yeah, a hundred foot one is somewhere else.

Sevan Matossian (24:38):

Yeah. And the a hundred foot one is like a white nylon rope.

Brian Friend (24:41):

Yeah, I think we used those at Mayhem when I was there.

Sevan Matossian (24:45):

Yeah. JR I think JR told me he’s got like 20 of those, which is kind of crazy.

Brian Friend (24:52):

Well, he loves that stuff too. Okay. They, they use the sleds every week there.

Sevan Matossian (24:56):

So it’s three of the most boring things you could do at an event with one of the, with one of what I think is one of the most exciting things.

Brian Friend (25:02):

Exciting maybe. But, uh, you know, I think an excellent training, you know, method for sure pushing and pulling sled. Um, will it, you know, we don’t, there’s nothing here to indicate that they’d have to push it back, which is why I think that they’ll just pull it and then have to walk their, or run their rope back down to the other end.

Sevan Matossian (25:22):

Just quotes. Just quotes,

Brian Friend (25:23):

Just and, uh, anyway, but I’m just, I think that it’s a really tricky workout to, to program and get it right. Like you want, obviously you want, why are you gonna have 15 to 20 minutes of machine work if you don’t, if it’s not gonna make much impact at all on the overall outcome. And how hard is the sled to make sure that it’s like I I is the, is the whole workout just gonna be the sled pull? I just feel like 3000 meter echo bike, they’re all gonna come off of it within a few seconds of each other. The run, you might see a little bit more separation, but I think you’d see more separation on a road than on a machine. And then the ski, um, one 1000 meter ski. I mean, I just feel like it’s gonna be the, the sled, the, the, the pole. I guess we can’t even say a sled for sure that will, uh, decide the winners.

Sevan Matossian (26:09):

A and um, one of the details that might be missing that you were referencing early in the show is we don’t know if you can play, if your feet are just, um, if you have something to brace your feet against or whether you’re just standing out there, um, having to, you know, create your own leverage.

Brian Friend (26:22):

Yeah, I like the standing out there creating your own leverage like they had at the rope chipper. You have a line on the floor, feet have to stay behind it, rope has to get a, or, you know, whatever object you’re pulling has to get across it.

Sevan Matossian (26:32):

Uh, any prob uh, anything, any problems in Africa getting that equipment? I guess not. They’re gonna have enough echo bytes of salt runners and skiers.

Brian Friend (26:40):

Yeah, we don’t know for sure if they’re gonna use the same brand or equipment for all of that, but you know, they’ll have something that’s comparable, you know, whether it’s a different company or not. We’ll see,

Sevan Matossian (26:51):

I, I know we’re not a big, uh, heart rate community, uh, and things like that, but tho I, I just feel like if there was just something we could see in those events more than them doing the event, it would make it a great, a better event. I just, I just front

Brian Friend (27:04):

Monitor on someone, you

Sevan Matossian (27:05):

Know, it’s like everyone knows it’s when you go get, take a piss or drop a deuce or get Philip get a glass of water when they’re on the machines. I mean, it’s just,

Brian Friend (27:15):

Well, you gotta do those things too. So maybe

Sevan Matossian (27:17):

That’s right. You think that Adrian’s actually thinking about that <laugh> just right off the bat,

Brian Friend (27:22):


Sevan Matossian (27:23):

Show starts. It’s early morning, you’re drinking your coffee and he knows you’re gonna have to take a Dee so he puts in a 3000, uh, meter run so the spectator can drop a Okay, uh, workout number two. Uh, how, how would you, so, so lemme just ask you this. Is, is that needed as much as I’m complaining about it, is that needed?

Brian Friend (27:38):

Well, I mean, here’s the thing. You, you know, in general we have this concept of, uh, we wanna see a balanced test. So you wanna see a wide array of time domains, and we wanna see workouts that are impacted by weightlifting workouts that have a limiting component of gymnastics or skill and workouts that are gonna test your, your aerobic capacity in a variety of different ways. Mono structural implements are relatively small in terms of how they’re usually counted, but I think at this level you can be more creative than this. Okay. So, you know, usually people are like, well, you gotta bike, run, row, swim, ski, or jump rope. Like those are your mono structural, I don’t, I don’t see it that way for athletes at this level. We’ve talked about this before, that movements like the burpee or a wall ball or a specific weight kettlebell movement or a just a regular pull up, like those types of movements are aerobic for these athletes.


Even something like toed bar, some, you know, for great deal of ’em, chest bar pullups, like they’re just so good at that stuff that there can be an aerobic element of it if it’s tested in the right structure of, of a workout. And there’s a lot of thought that can go into that. So you don’t have to necessarily paint yourself into the machine corner. But if you, if you think about what those things are that I listed it at this stage of the competition, seven semi-finals around the world, it’s really difficult to have a road bike. So if you wanna do any kind of biking, it has to be a stationary bike. It’s really difficult to get ’em in a pool or a, a river to row in or something like that. So you kind of have some con confines on what you can do, as opposed to if it were just one semi-final event that 300 were competing in or whatever in one location, you could do a lot more. So knowing that he’s confined by those things, um, not surprised to see a lot of machine work show up and look, there’s a, there’s gonna be plenty of weightlifting and, and, uh, gymnastics skills as well.

Sevan Matossian (29:32):

Uh, halpin, they could use that time to talk about other non-top five athletes. I’d rather hear ’em talk about the clothes that the athletes are wearing. Uh, over here in lane number seven, we have Romanov in the new skin’s ultra tight Roman’s 205 pounds and wears a size large. That’s the extra black limited edition one that you can buy on our website now for 99 point 99. Also, you know, like stuff like that, Asara Sigmund’s daughter’s out there, you notice the sweat is beating on her face. That’s.

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