#896 – State Of The Union w/ Andrew Hiller

Sevan Matossian (00:00):

Tack. Bam. We’re live. Molly, good to see you, girl. It’s been a while,

Andrew Hiller (00:05):

Molly. It’s been a while.

Sevan Matossian (00:06):

Been a while. Yes. Thank you. Suza.

Andrew Hiller (00:09):

Are you talking about that song?

Sevan Matossian (00:11):

Hi, Molly. Even Shannon Cook says it. Hi, Molly. Yeah. Who the fuck is Molly <laugh>? Dick Butter. Good to see you, buddy. Don’t worry. Chevy not gonna tell us anything anyway. Oh, Dick Lee. Oh, Dick Liquor. Good to see you buddy. Good to see everyone’s in the house. I have a feeling tonight could get a little crowded in here. Uh, pack in tightly.

Andrew Hiller (00:34):

Oh, <laugh>.

Sevan Matossian (00:36):

Nice to see you, Mr. Hiller.

Andrew Hiller (00:38):

What’s up,

Sevan Matossian (00:39):

Caleb? Hi.

Andrew Hiller (00:40):


Sevan Matossian (00:42):

Um, I had a fantastic, uh, show this morning, although I definitely, like, usual missed, uh, missed you guys, not you. Hiller. Um, what? Unnecessary, just to be honest. Just, just, I’m just free flowing right now. Uh, um, Mike will to make up for the asshole that I am. A Mike McKowski. Hillary looking extra fit tonight.

Andrew Hiller (01:05):

Yeah. He, he always looks good, though.

Sevan Matossian (01:07):

Nice. Oh shit. All the fellas, uh, pool boys in the house. Uh, Savon with the Sweet Santa Cruz tan. Yes. I was at the beach today. Yes. <laugh>

Andrew Hiller (01:18):

There. Fights on the morning chocolate post. Yes.

Sevan Matossian (01:21):

Yes. Say that again.

Andrew Hiller (01:23):

Pool boys. Getting in fights on the morning chocolate post.

Sevan Matossian (01:25):

Oh, I like it. Okay, good. We’ll go over there. We’re going to assess it all, uh, about a month ago. I don’t remember how long it’s been. It’s sometime ago in the di not too distant fa past, uh, Andrew Hiller and Caleb and I, and I think Susie was here. We were all here and I did, we did a kind of a state of the union and I thought it was kind of cool. And we looked at, um, we looked at people’s, uh, just social media presence, YouTube presence and all that, and just kind of gave our evaluation of that. Yes. State of the Union. And then, uh, a few months ago, there was talk there, started being, talk about a restructure over at CrossFit hq. And then about a couple weeks ago, there started being some signs that something was gonna happen. And then the day started becoming more and more obvious.


There’s just signs. It’s like, uh, you know, like when there’s a tsunami, you know, it’s coming in because the beach goes out first. There’s just these signs. I don’t want to say exactly what they are, but everyone who’s in the business knows what the fucking signs are. And so you start seeing certain signs like that, it’s, it’s nothing. Um, it’s, it’s not, it’s not like Illuminati shit. It’s like, like, you know how, like, you know how I was like, fuck, there’s clouds everywhere and it’s a little warm, but, but there’s dark clouds everywhere. And then all of a sudden the wind starts blowing and you know, the pressure’s dropping and you’re fucking five minutes away from a downpour. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. It’s like that. It’s storms are brewing. Yeah. It’s like that. It’s not, it’s not secret shit. But I, but I also, I don’t, I don’t wanna say there, but there were 10 different signs, um, that are just like evident that, and there was evidence that it was gonna happen Thursday.


And so earlier in the week, I, I kind of started getting excited. I said, Hillary, let’s do something Thursday night. And that’s why you saw this scheduled cuz it just appeared that something was gonna happen. But about two weeks ago, it became really, really clear that something was gonna happen. And, uh, as many of you know, I fancy myself as being, um, the, the, the least in the well pro, the, the greatest living expert. Uh, I know it’s a hard to say that, uh, cuz there’s some pretty expert people. But, uh, in the CrossFit space about all things CrossFit, everything, like, everything like in the totality, I have the most PhDs in CrossFit more than Greg. I, I think so <laugh>, I mean, Greg may, Greg may have three in engineering and I only have one, but I think in the totality, I have one in engineering, I have one in math and I have one in, in in a kickball. You got range? Yeah. I just think, I just think I have crazy range. But anyway, I could be wrong and, and I’m okay with being proven wrong. Like maybe I’m number two or three. Yeah. CrossFit nostradamus dare I say No, you feel free to dare. Okay.


So, um, you can accept that or not accept it. So Yeah. And on top of that, yeah, I think I know everything anyway, so it’s, it’s, it’s a, it’s a triple, triple whammy. I dunno what the third thing is, but it’s more than a double whammy.

Andrew Hiller (04:06):

Have you seen signs with Mel Gibson? <laugh>

Mattew Souza (04:09):


Sevan Matossian (04:11):

Hiller. What’s up with your audio today? You, you sound, um, garbage. No, it’s not garbage. You just sound a little echoy tin candy. But

Mattew Souza (04:17):

You got this campfire glow going on in front of you. Yeah.

Andrew Hiller (04:19):

I changed the computers up a little bit.

Sevan Matossian (04:22):

Uh, I You got one in gender studies too. That’s right. Mm mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Oh, for sure. Okay. So basically what happened is this crosser laid off a bunch of people today. I was very curious what that was going to look like. Um, but there’s something you need to know about CrossFit that I think so many people, by the way, do we know if Rosa’s still on the board? I know, I know. When they No, he’s not. Or we don’t know. I don’t

Mattew Souza (04:43):

Know. I’m gonna assume he is not. But I, I think he just kind of quietly made an exit. Okay. But he still probably owns a share of it. Right? I don’t think he get that or Ted from, but I don’t think he holds a seat on the board anymore.

Sevan Matossian (04:54):

Okay. Uh, lucky camera, uh, straps, uh, Australia, $20. Thank you. Kicking off the donations. Thank you for the down under friendly time slot. Absolutely. Well, we made this for you. Um, by the way, I think your wife came on the other day and made a donation for you. That’s hardcore. That, that, that’s really hardcore. Thank you.

Andrew Hiller (05:10):

Um, you audio better or worse

Sevan Matossian (05:13):

Or worse?

Andrew Hiller (05:14):


Sevan Matossian (05:15):

But it’s not bad. It’s just echo. It’s a little echoy. You don’t sound as manly as you normally do. All right. How about, oh, look at this. This guy says, um, or girl says, uh, fix your audio, Andrew. Yeah,

Andrew Hiller (05:25):

I know. How about now? That’s why I did it because

Sevan Matossian (05:27):

Yeah. Much better. There you go. There you

Andrew Hiller (05:28):

Go. I got three different things I can plug into.

Sevan Matossian (05:31):

There you go. That, that

Andrew Hiller (05:32):

Used. Alright, good, good, good. Thank you. Sorry.

Sevan Matossian (05:34):

Uh, dick butter said louder and worse. Yeah. That one where you said is better was louder and worse.

Andrew Hiller (05:39):

Okay. Okay. <laugh>.

Sevan Matossian (05:41):

Caleb has a moon tant. Geez. Little

Mattew Souza (05:43):


Andrew Hiller (05:46):

It’s always good to see Ca

Sevan Matossian (05:48):

Who’s, who’s Howie’s uh, who’s Howie’s, uh, profile picture.

Andrew Hiller (05:52):

I don’t know. Let me go find out.

Mattew Souza (05:54):

We reverse search that.

Sevan Matossian (05:56):

So, um, so ba so basically this is just going back to rehash some shit, but r about the company and then he left and he, they said some Jack Sasses out there tried to spin it. And I, and I use the term jackass, uh, with zero affection. Um, they tried to spin it like he was getting promoted. And the, and, and then not only that, they tried to talk shit about us. Like we didn’t know what we were talking about <laugh>. Cause they googled what chairman of the board is. We

Mattew Souza (06:20):

Don’t know how corporate structure

Sevan Matossian (06:21):

Works. Yes. That kind of stuff. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> $1 each of you now spend wisely. Thank you Robbie.

Andrew Hiller (06:26):

Mr. Robbie, do you remember who tried to say he was getting promoted?

Sevan Matossian (06:29):

I do. I do <laugh>.

Andrew Hiller (06:31):

I do,

Sevan Matossian (06:32):

I do remember. I what? Pardon me? Who, who,

Andrew Hiller (06:35):

Who do you, do you have any hints as to who it was? Cause I think I, I, I think I know who you’re, I mean,

Mattew Souza (06:39):

Weinstein released it if that’s what, right. Like he was the mouthpiece.

Sevan Matossian (06:43):

So it was the talking elite fitness guys.

Andrew Hiller (06:46):


Sevan Matossian (06:47):


Andrew Hiller (06:48):

Cool. All right. Well now that that’s out there

Sevan Matossian (06:50):

And, uh, and others, I think, I think I, I’m going to guess Laf Franco did it too. I’m gonna guess

Andrew Hiller (06:54):

He was climbing a mountain this weekend.

Sevan Matossian (06:58):

<laugh> Mountain of lawsuits, <laugh>. Um, uh, so no, I didn’t see your, I didn’t see your post at Slinky. I don’t think you said you saw your post. No, I didn’t.

Andrew Hiller (07:17):

I I,

Sevan Matossian (07:19):

So basically ba basically Don has been put, Don has been put in charge, but there’s something you have to know about CrossFit and I and I, and this is something that those guys out there, like, those people like, um, uh, Mr. Richie, uh, uh, Mr. Elite Fitness and Mrs. Elite Fitness and stuff that they don’t get, and I don’t, I can’t, I think, I don’t understand how the Mr. Elite fitnesses don’t get it, but

Andrew Hiller (07:46):

They gotta hear it maybe. And they, they backtrack a little bit. Like now maybe it’s

Sevan Matossian (07:49):

Their anger so much about the way things went down at HQ that it’s caused them not to wanna see some other perspectives. But basically this, I don’t know if this is true, but bear with me here. Greenpeace is agenda green. The green piece agenda for Greenpeace is, uh, is what, um, let, let’s just say I’m gonna make it up. Let’s say green piece’s agenda is to stop, uh, whale hunting, right? So they pull up next to, uh, that that’s their only goal to stop whale hunting. They don’t want those Japanese guys anymore just hunting whales. And that’s their goal. And, um, CrossFit had a goal also. CrossFit had a, had a, a mission. And, um, and, and that mission can no longer be, you have to know that because if Greenpeace got bought by private equity, it could no longer have the mission to save whales. The mission then has to be to make money. It just has to be, it’s, um, there’s the fiduciary duty of the company to make money.

Mattew Souza (08:56):


Sevan Matossian (08:58):

It becomes the, the mission for m and ms is to make money. The byproduct is diabetes

Mattew Souza (09:04):

<laugh>. That’s true.

Sevan Matossian (09:08):

Um, but the, but the mission of m and ms is not to, uh, spread happiness or, or, or, or whatever to introduce people to the, uh, ways of the chocolate mysticism.

Mattew Souza (09:20):

That’s a slogan, not a mission.

Sevan Matossian (09:22):

Yeah. There you go. And so, um, max El Hajj and others have said, um, but his, his stands out right now that there’s a, there’s, there’s a, this company’s lost com completely and utterly fucking lost. And so you have to just accept that like a, like a child just out in the woods wandering around and, um,

Andrew Hiller (09:49):


Sevan Matossian (09:50):

Fiduciary. What does that mean? I made that up. Fiduciary. Did you look it up?

Mattew Souza (09:55):

That was the right word for it. Yeah. Oh, Caleb, I’m sure will give us the official definition. By the way, found out what found out what happened to Rosa,

Sevan Matossian (10:03):

Uh, fiduciary duty in involving trust, especially with regards to the relationship between a trustee and a bene beneficiary. Basically, it’s a fucking legal ob obligation. Well, now things are changing, by the way. They have something called E S G, which is really scary. I think it’s called E S G. And it’s basically like if you thought corporations were bad before, because they were saying that all they’re into is that they’re leg, they’re legal, they’re legally upheld to only make money and put making money first. Now, um, there’s this thing where corporations might have to answer to the climate first and other bullshit stuff like equity and, and just insane shit that you really don’t want them, uh, being involved in a fiduciary duty exists to ensure that those who manage other people’s money act in the interest of the beneficiaries. Yeah. So Exactly. So, so everyone who works at, at, at CrossFit has a duty to make money. That is, it was never, ever like that, uh, when Greg own the company. And that’s not a dig at the current owners and, and being lost calling, uh, CrossFit lost is not a dig at CrossFit either. It is not

Mattew Souza (11:02):

Just facts.

Sevan Matossian (11:03):

Yeah, it’s not. It’s, it’s not a dick. Sarah Cox. Hi. Thank you. Good evening. Beautiful logo. California hormones has,

Mattew Souza (11:12):


Sevan Matossian (11:13):

Uh, Jessica, uh, Pearson still upset about how they treated Dave Castro. No apologies or acknowledgement for what they did. What the fuck? I think she’s referencing, uh, talking to League Fitness.

Mattew Souza (11:21):


Sevan Matossian (11:23):

So I, and I don’t mean I I have no ill will for them. I, I, I don’t want them to go away. I don’t want morning chocolate to go away. It makes me sad how little coverage, um, there is out there in the CrossFit, um, universe right now.

Andrew Hiller (11:38):

Morning chocolate doesn’t make any more YouTube videos.

Sevan Matossian (11:41):

They’re toast.

Andrew Hiller (11:43):

They’re toast. Imagine how easy it would be to just make an Instagram poster.

Sevan Matossian (11:46):

They only have one employee. Katie Gannon this, she called the Katy, uh, uh, the Katy. Katie. Katie Gannon kg. K g u

Andrew Hiller (11:56):

<laugh>. I like that.

Sevan Matossian (11:57):

Me too. Kgu.

Andrew Hiller (12:02):

They have, they, and she’s

Sevan Matossian (12:03):

Got, she’s got a good face too. I think she’d make, she makes make

Andrew Hiller (12:06):


Sevan Matossian (12:07):

Uh, she makes for a good from me. So a shitload of people got let go today. Uh, why they were let go. I, um, I don’t know. But I’m going to guess that they were let go to save money. Um, there were a lot of people let go who basically weren’t adding to the, um, they were costing more to keep than they were adding. Yes. Mr. Hillary, uh, you with the c e o shirt on and the, uh, and the bedroom eyes, please.

Andrew Hiller (12:31):

<laugh>, is there a potential that they were letting go of people that shouldn’t have been there in the first place?

Sevan Matossian (12:38):

That’s too vague of a question for me. But the answer is yes. I mean, they, they, they let go of people. Like if you weren’t making them money, if, if you were, here’s, like, here’s, I’ll give you a real an example. They had people in the training team that I’m hearing that got let go, and they didn’t let them go because they were shitty. They let them go because they were too expensive. That would be my guess,

Andrew Hiller (12:57):

A bad reason that, that, yeah. So that,

Sevan Matossian (12:59):

So, so you’ve, someone’s been there 10 years and, and, and now all of a sudden you’re paying ’em $200,000 a year, but you have someone who’s just as good who gets $60,000 a year, but they’ve only been there four years. So that person’s, you know, their shit gets changed a little bit. I I’m not hating on that either. Like the company has to stay fucking afloat.

Mattew Souza (13:17):

And that’s really common, by the way, to let go of all those people so you could rehire cheaper labor.

Sevan Matossian (13:22):

Yeah. I’m, I’m not, none of this is, um,

Andrew Hiller (13:26):

So for example, well,

Sevan Matossian (13:28):

I don’t know if Hobart got the ax, but I would guess not. I have not heard, I heard 22 people by name specifically. I don’t think it helped that Don made any releases. I, uh, I saw Lord and Khalil made some statement on her Instagram. I couldn’t agree. I I, I couldn’t disagree with almost everything she said. I I don’t think Don should fucking talk. Yeah. Like this, this is fucking nuts. This is not how, this is not how CrossFit talks. Whoever wrote this is not a cross, is not part of the community. This is, this is fucking tech fucking, uh, this is tech, um, uh, venture capitalist bullshit talk. Yeah. Griffin, she’s letting go of 20% of its employees tw Oh, who, who wrote that? That, that whole, who wrote that? <laugh>. Oh, morning chalk up. Sorry. Uh, but, but what they’re doing basically is they’re taking that 20% thing from what Don released, and Don wrote that thing where we’re, we’re cutting our employment employees by 20%.


It’s like, oh, is this it? Oh, uh, here’s something that Don wrote. While this was an incredibly hard decision, these reductions will help us create a more sustainable business model, ensure that we’re prepared, uh, for economic uncertainty and position us to make some big bets against our most important priorities. So that d he shouldn’t have said any of that. All that does is make me ask more questions like, uh, how about this is an incredibly hard decision. We’re doing our best to I doing our best to give people, um, the pen, the, the severances they deserve End the story like the rest of this. Like what, what economic uncertainties, what are you talking about big bets against our most important priorities. What priorities? It’s just bullshit. Sorry. It’s just fucking bullshit. Well,

Mattew Souza (15:04):

It leads to lot open

Sevan Matossian (15:05):

To like, I wish you wouldn’t have say anything, though. The exact number of layoffs has not been disclosed. Roughly 20% of employees at CrossFit HQ have been terminated as of Thursday morning. This, oh, this is the Morning Chalkup thing. Uh, the morning Chalkup has heard from individuals in various departments across the company, including partnerships, d e i, adaptive affiliate, uh, management positions. So basically what happened, I mean, the good thing is, is they, they got rid of fucking, uh, couple psychos. And, and I mean that in the clinical sense. Uh, they got rid of a few, uh, truly mentally ill, uh, fucking people, people of, uh, deep hatred for themselves and for humanity. And, and, and whether they’re cognizant of that or not, I have no idea, but they did get rid of a couple of them. And that makes me very happy. Uh, you go the what, what basically I’m seeing here.


Also, there’s one more thing you should know. When, when Rosa came in and they fired a shitload of people, they also hired a ton of people, a ton, an unsustainable amount of people. All of a sudden there were, I was hearing names and shit from in all the departments, and it was fucking crazy. And so basically what Don came in, I’m sure Don saw that and was like, wow, we gotta start getting rid of people. This is, this is a crazy load. And, uh, and, um, I think, uh, Rose May have even had this line. I don’t, I don’t remember what it is, but he was a hire and he hired a ton of people. And, uh, his eyes were, uh, bigger than his appetite. And, and he wasn’t able to make use of them or have them, uh, increase the, uh, the revenue. So they had, they had to get rid of a sh a shitload of people for that reason. <laugh>,

Mattew Souza (16:38):

Did you chat

Andrew Hiller (16:40):

<laugh> write a public statement for firing 20% of CrossFit employees. And it’s exactly the morning chalk up post.

Mattew Souza (16:47):

Oh, I like how I cited the, uh, the 49 er, uh, a lockdown there.

Andrew Hiller (16:51):

Oh, I actually get rid of that.

Sevan Matossian (16:52):

Yeah. Oh, they do. Yeah. Yeah,

Mattew Souza (16:53):

They do. Yeah, right at the top. It’s like, dude,

Andrew Hiller (16:55):

We understand that this news make home is a shock to many of you. <laugh>, we want to assure you that we did not take the decision lightly. Our employees are an integral part of the CrossFit family. <laugh>.

Mattew Souza (17:05):

It’s like the actual template where it says your name because it’s just gonna be switched out with another CEO in that night.

Andrew Hiller (17:10):

<laugh>. Holy

Sevan Matossian (17:11):


Mattew Souza (17:12):

Just, they just keep it blank.

Andrew Hiller (17:14):

By the way, I stole this from Kate in the comments. There was a Kate idea. Holy,

Sevan Matossian (17:19):

Hey, go up to the top a little bit. Let me look at that a little bit more closely. Holy shit.

Mattew Souza (17:24):

I mean, it makes sense, right? It’s just the generic, like, we let go of you and we’re not really,

Sevan Matossian (17:28):

I know, but I just expect so much more from Don than this.

Andrew Hiller (17:31):

There you go. Chad.

Sevan Matossian (17:33):

I thought he was savvy as shit. Yeah, it was, his shit was written by Chad. G p t motherfucker.

Mattew Souza (17:39):


Andrew Hiller (17:41):

Pretty good, eh?

Mattew Souza (17:42):


Sevan Matossian (17:42):

Where’s the 49ers part? I want to see that right at

Mattew Souza (17:45):

The top. Right at the

Sevan Matossian (17:45):

Top. It is with Heavy, it is with Heavy Heart that we must announce a reduction in our workforce due to the ongoing financial impact of the 49ers game and changes in the fitness industry. Wow. Wow. <laugh>.

Mattew Souza (17:57):


Andrew Hiller (17:58):

All right. Now, now, do you know how to use this?

Sevan Matossian (18:00):


Andrew Hiller (18:01):

You say re rewrite this, but re shorter. Remove the 49. Hey,

Mattew Souza (18:07):

Tell it to write it at a third grade level. Third grade level.

Andrew Hiller (18:10):

I know you can do that too.

Mattew Souza (18:11):

<laugh>. Say please do write it to a third grade level. Let’s see what it reduces it down to. If it gets at just that little paragraph.

Sevan Matossian (18:17):

Oh my God. <laugh>

Mattew Souza (18:20):

And just hired chat. Gt <laugh>.

Sevan Matossian (18:25):

Oh my God. Oh my goodness.

Andrew Hiller (18:28):

You’re CrossFit friends. We have some sad news to tell you. <laugh>. We need to make some changes in our company, and that means some of our workers will not be working with us anymore. There it

Mattew Souza (18:38):


Andrew Hiller (18:38):

We did not want this to happen, but it’s important to keep our business running. We

Sevan Matossian (18:43):

Know this. Can you imagine surprising?

Andrew Hiller (18:44):

There it

Sevan Matossian (18:45):

Is. So when you send this to people, you’re, you’re stealing time from them. Uhhuh, <affirmative>. You’re giving them, you’re giving them shit that’s just bullshit. That they can’t do anything with <laugh>. And you, and you took time from them. I would just rather said, fuck off. And the truth is this, they don’t owe us any explanation. That’s another reason why I could dis I, I, I can’t agree with Lauren at all. CrossFit doesn’t owe us shit. Right? Fuck you. They’ll fire who they wanna fire. It’s their fucking company. I, I, I fully understand. I fully understand that. Um, uh, so some of the people, um, some of the people who, who, who got let go, I’ll tell you some of the, the, the no one on, no one on the games team got fired. From what I hear, no one on the games team, which is very, very interesting. The CrossFit games team. And that was another thing that Lauren brought up. Uh, she said that she’s, she was curious if this was a strategic plan or if this was triage, because she has some concerns of how this would affect the 20, uh, 23 season for CrossFit games. I have zero fucking care how this affects the CrossFit games.

Andrew Hiller (19:45):

Oh, dare you. I know <laugh> Well, it shows

Mattew Souza (19:48):

Their priorities out a little bit, right?

Sevan Matossian (19:50):

Like, what’s gonna happen? What do you think’s really gonna happen? They’re gonna put the wrong weights on the workouts. I mean, come on. What’s the worst that could happen? And listen, here’s another thing. They fired so many people. They laid off so many people. And now, but no one from the games department. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> except for one media guy, really low level fucking media guy.

Mattew Souza (20:12):


Sevan Matossian (20:13):

His name is Patrick, I think. And I wanna, I wanna show you something here really quick. You guys at home, I’ve shown you this before. I’ll show you again. It’s been a while. Quick.

Andrew Hiller (20:23):

The statement from Donna was not written by Chad. G P t I checked,

Sevan Matossian (20:27):

How do you know?

Andrew Hiller (20:28):

Because I asked it <laugh>.

Sevan Matossian (20:30):

Oh, wow. Holy shit.

Andrew Hiller (20:34):

That was another cage. She said you could ask it.

Sevan Matossian (20:37):

Wow. That’s crazy. Oh, where’s my, uh, where’s my YouTube links? Oh, shit. I didn’t send you those YouTube links. Gimme one second. I wanna pull up. So

Mattew Souza (20:45):

We have the, oh no, not the YouTube. Sorry,

Sevan Matossian (20:47):

I wanna pull this up. Um,

Andrew Hiller (20:51):


Sevan Matossian (20:52):

I’m gonna see if I can give this to Caleb. Control copy. I’m gonna put this in the private chat, Caleb. Um, okay.

Mattew Souza (21:01):

And just close the loop on Rosa real quick. He still actually is a board observer, which basically just means he could participate in the meetings. He could look over any the material, but he doesn’t have a say on what happens on the company whatsoever.

Andrew Hiller (21:13):

How do you become one of those?

Mattew Souza (21:15):

You spend a lot of money.

Andrew Hiller (21:16):

Well, I thought he didn’t spend that much money.

Mattew Souza (21:18):

I think he put $2 million of his own money in, uh, in the initial purchase to get himself a small percentage of equity.

Sevan Matossian (21:24):

Okay. Can, can you, can you play that, that first one? Uh, the, the, the, the first one I sent you? And then pause this real quick. Okay. And, and go pull out just a little bit. How many views does this have? Okay. No, I know. I didn’t get it. So this one I think has 25,000 views. Th I’m guessing that this video cost CrossFit, this is what I tried to explain to Don, by the way, when he was on this video cost. I betcha. $30,000 to make play. Go ahead and play six seconds of this video

Andrew Hiller (21:52):


Sevan Matossian (21:55):

Okay. And then go out. So go somewhere else in the middle.

Andrew Hiller (22:01):

Yes. So cross,

Sevan Matossian (22:07):

So it’s, it’s a vi it’s a video showing the, the bag lift. It’s three minutes and 10 seconds. I probably, I betcha they spent 30 grand making this in totality between the editing, having the guy shoot the footage. Now play that link to that other clip 30, this other video I’m about to show you. I bet you cost them $300 to make. And one guy made it and he made it on the fucking fly. And this guy got fucking fired, which is fucking nuts to me, which makes me realize that no one over there has any fucking clue what they’re doing. And look at this has 53,000 dues. This has twice as many views. And okay, here we go.

Andrew Hiller (22:43):

Oh, they picked up, they picked up subscribers.

Sevan Matossian (22:47):

Oh, lucky them. They probably bought them

Andrew Hiller (22:51):

<laugh>. They’re getting pissed

Sevan Matossian (22:54):


Speaker 5 (22:55):

As productive application of force.

Andrew Hiller (23:02):

Come on Jude, let’s go

Speaker 5 (23:04):

Take yourself and productively apply the force your body can generate to everything, not just in the gym, but outside the gym.

Sevan Matossian (23:11):

So this is the same video. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> made a few months later. So this was made on the fly at the games for probably 300 bucks. They probably paid the kid. The other video was made months later with half as many views and cost $30,000. And yet they fired this fucking kid. And I just use this as an example that someone there has no fucking idea what they’re fucking doing. You. And, and so, so basically now you have to understand CrossFit. And they fired, uh, Jay Vera, who I, I think I hired Jay.

Andrew Hiller (23:42):


Sevan Matossian (23:43):

I’m not sure. But they hired Jay. They fired Jay Ver and they fired this guy Patrick, which makes me think they only have one creative left there. Now think about that. Chris Cooper was on the other day, and he said the reason why he was an affiliate was because of media <laugh>. So when I was there, there were 70 full-time media people and 30 contractors, let’s say. And now they have one. I think they have one. I I, I don’t, I don’t know if that guy got fired, but they, but, but if it’s who I think is still there, he’s a fucking powerhouse. But no, they’re done, but not really. No. They don’t have any specific editors on staff. Yeah, they’re all contractors. All contractors. Yep. No one in house. I’m 99%. Mariah is a, uh, contractor.

Andrew Hiller (24:33):

Yeah, it’s whatever. Gra No, what’s the name of it?

Sevan Matossian (24:38):

Uh, Greg pretty much got rid of everyone I hired. Uh, but, but maybe there’s a few stragglers left behind that I hired. So J So, so, uh, but, but a couple people that are gone that are interesting is Alex Eren. Bach is gone. He was head, he was the director of the games, uh, adapted division. Uh, Hillary made a video about him. And, uh, he was very, very close to getting, uh, sued into fucking oblivion. He screamed

Andrew Hiller (25:04):

At an epic athlete on the call. Remember that? He like stood up and like, ah, I am jerking Bach. Yes. Whoa. Yes. You didn’t hear that suza? No. Hear me roar. And she goes, I just want to know why I’m not allowed in.

Sevan Matossian (25:19):

It’s fu it’s funny too, cuz some people are like, Hey, this is a really tough time and you shouldn’t be attacking people. Now, uh, some of these people have done some really fucked up shit

Andrew Hiller (25:27):

Like that.

Sevan Matossian (25:28):

Well, like that. But worse, they’ve, they’ve affected other people from fucking making money and supporting their families. And they’ve been involved in some pretty, uh, squirrly shit. And I’ve had reports of this fucking ding dong talking all sorts of crazy shit about me and Greg. And he’s blind from, from men, from many, many sources. Uh, he wa he was CrossFit’s accessibility specialist. Yeah. From Athena Perez.

Andrew Hiller (25:55):

Hey, I met Athena.

Mattew Souza (25:58):

Wait, I’m a fake fan. What does that even mean?

Sevan Matossian (26:00):

And, uh, don’t

Andrew Hiller (26:01):

Say it personally. <laugh>. It’s just true. <laugh>.

Sevan Matossian (26:05):

Uh, and then, and then Elaine, the head of their, um, d e I was, was let go fired. So there’s a lady, there was a lady there named Elaine Moreno. And, uh, if you look at her job description, you’ll wanna vomit it might as well just say, um, don’t pull

Andrew Hiller (26:21):

It up.

Sevan Matossian (26:22):

It, it may just, it might as well, it doesn’t say anything, but it could be interpreted. If you understand what diversity, inclusivity, and equity means, you could basically means I hire people based on the color of their skin. And that’s it. Uh, just a look at this. She, her [inaudible] uh, uh, impact driven d ei leader, fractional chief diversity officer, strategic change agent for systemic equity. So she’s, what does that, it means she’s a prison guard. She wants to run everything like a prison. She’s a bad, this is a bad person. It’s so, it’s so good. She’s gone.

Andrew Hiller (26:58):

Dude, that background to logo is nuts. She took those pictures in different spots on the same wall and put ’em together.

Mattew Souza (27:06):

Continuity ba

Sevan Matossian (27:07):

Basically this person, I, uh, I have not heard. I assume, uh, I would’ve heard if Dave Castro got fired. I have not. I I would assume he, I would’ve heard. So I’m gonna say he did not. This

Andrew Hiller (27:21):

Woman is dangerous. <laugh>.

Sevan Matossian (27:23):

Yeah. That, that woman, she is very dangerous. She’s very dangerous. She’s the one who determines, who gets on the tr trained to Auschwitz and who doesn’t. That’s what she wants to do. She wants to come into workplaces and look at people and be like, you don’t look right. You do look right. It, it’s, it’s, uh, it’s some nasty shit.

Andrew Hiller (27:41):

What do you think people like that think when they hear the way you describe them?

Sevan Matossian (27:47):

What do I think they think? Yeah. So

Andrew Hiller (27:48):

If, if she were to be watching this, that

Sevan Matossian (27:50):

She, her and Alex z I think Alex Eren, Bach scared shitless. He’s, I think he, he hears it and he’s like, oh fuck. Because he knows what he said and knows what he did. And, uh, and he knows he has no fucking, uh, evidence. He, he, he, he, he knows he did, said, did some really bad shit to a fucking really good person. And, uh, and he should, he should fucking feel like he wants to throw up. Uh, and, and Elaine’s just, uh, in honestly, in the clinical sense, she’s an sile. So unless someone was willing to talk to her and explain to her, um, how she, she goes out of her way to hurt people under the guise of helping people. Unless she, she’s gonna need a rude awakening. She probably needs to fucking be, just be thrown out in the forest with a fucking bucket of water to live off of her 30 days and do some deep soul. She, but she, but yeah, she’s stupid. Yes. Ial. Yeah, she’s unable to, um, uh, oh, here it is. She said SevOne is nothing but hatred. Yeah. Where

Andrew Hiller (28:46):

Did she say that?

Sevan Matossian (28:48):

Probably in some meeting. I’m

Mattew Souza (28:49):

Surprised she was allowed to say that. Cuz didn’t she have the whole list of words that you couldn’t say? Because the, the harmful language,

Andrew Hiller (28:55):

Damn right. That that’s who that was. I remember,

Mattew Souza (28:57):

Right? Like, take a shot, come in guns a blazing.

Sevan Matossian (29:01):


Mattew Souza (29:02):

That whole list. Do you remember

Sevan Matossian (29:04):

If, if I was hatred, I would say put you in a rocket ship, be lane and fire you off to Pluto. But I do think that you have a chance, but it would require you go, like I said, going out into a stripping off all your clothes, running out into the forest with a bucket of water and surviving for 30 days.

Andrew Hiller (29:18):

I was gonna say, dude, you sent her to the forest with a bucket of water. That’s Pluto.

Sevan Matossian (29:22):

Yeah, exactly. Exactly. That, that’s what she would, A bucket of water would need to be diverse liquid, uh, fine. I’m, I’m opening it down. <laugh>. I would give her, I would give her, I’d put her near a stream and give her some of those pills that clean the water of, uh, parasites. But she is a, she is a very, these people a crazy, crazy sickness. They’re at the root. They, their existence solely exists. Only if we believe they’re bullshit. Only if we believe their lies, their imagination. Um, that’s the only way their reality is.

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