#889 – Live Call In | Sunday Service

Mattew Souza (00:01):

From Sunday,

Sevan Matossian (00:02):

Bam. We’re live. Did we change the name of it? Did it have a different name?

Caleb Beaver (00:05):

Hm. Not that I know.

Sevan Matossian (00:06):

Oh, no. There were two. They linked to the wrong one on Rumble.

Caleb Beaver (00:10):

There were two shows up. I just deleted one of them.

Sevan Matossian (00:13):

Oh, shit. Well, that’s the one I linked to on Rumble. Bam. We’re live. Good morning everyone. Good morning. It was a great name for the show. I loved it. Who’s naming the shows?

Caleb Beaver (00:25):

That was me, I just named. Oh,

Sevan Matossian (00:27):

It was awesome. It was like, welcome to Love and Light or, so I just loved

Caleb Beaver (00:30):

It. I am like, love and acceptance.

Sevan Matossian (00:32):

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Love and acceptance show.

Caleb Beaver (00:35):

There’s, there’s a little, uh, Easter Egg in all those titles if nobody noticed. But

Sevan Matossian (00:39):

What’s, what’s an Easter egg mean?

Caleb Beaver (00:41):

Uh, it’s just like a little, little gift for somebody who figures it out.

Sevan Matossian (00:45):

Oh, okay. Well, I’m gonna have to start looking. Uh,

Caleb Beaver (00:48):

You mean they’re all like song titles or something? Nope. Is it something like that though?

Sevan Matossian (00:54):

In the, in the Urban Dictionary? They’re all, they’re all things that, uh, something in the Urban Dictionary.

Caleb Beaver (01:01):

No, it’s not, it’s not obscene. I’ll give you that.

Sevan Matossian (01:04):

Like Dirty Sanchez

Mattew Souza (01:06):


Sevan Matossian (01:09):

Jay Harle. Good morning, Omar. Cornel. Oh, good morning. Dale. Dale Spiegel. Good morning. Uh, Sev and Suza, uh, 100 Hail Marys for you. Thank you. Oh, that’d be great if we had a little Tupac sound clip there, Elizabeth. Good morning. Welcome. Uh, vatos Locals. Thank you. Yes, I agree. Uh, Jessica t just finished watching Hiller Disrobe in his latest video. Oh, interesting. Okay. <laugh> be watching that tonight. Uh, on this TV screen. It’s over my bed. Um, I noticed, uh, but not telling. Wow. Okay. <laugh> dig butter, uh, spotting the, uh, cyop that, um, Caleb’s running. That’s awesome. Jeff Beko, uh, the, uh, ambiguous gay trio. Yes, we are here.

Mattew Souza (01:55):


Sevan Matossian (01:57):

We’ll take it.

Caleb Beaver (01:58):


Sevan Matossian (01:58):

Uh, good morning. Uh, from Daytona. Yes. Yes. Shannon. Yes. Always in a bathing suit on Daytona Beach. And there she is. We can begin. Olivia. Olivia, is that how you would say her name? Would you say Olivia, or would you always just say the Oh, Olivia,

Caleb Beaver (02:15):

Definitely. Olivia.

Sevan Matossian (02:17):

Uh, Olivia. Olivia, Olivia. Um, Jay, uh, sizzle old school, uh, snl. Yes. When the show was good, uh, I was thinking that I should, um, I, maybe I should. I was too ambiguous. Uh, speaking of gay yesterday, and I should actually pull up, uh, I, I, I should maybe pull up, uh, the video of the lady from hr. I was actually feeling really bad for all the people who work at hq. Now.


I, I, I finally, by hq, I mean CrossFit hq, for those of you are crosswords. I was actually just thinking, um, remember they used to say this when I worked there too. This isn’t about one man, and this is about the methodology in the community. And now, more than ever, I just see it’s just completely wrong. I, I made a post on my Instagram the other day, and it was Dana White saying, uh, we never do anything woke. And their mother company, A W M E is woke as fuck, uh, William Morrison endeavor outta Los Angeles. So the company that bought them’s crazy woke, which is the, the thing about the people who aren’t woke is they’re not willing to bend on their ideology. Right? You, you, you, the nonw woke class, you can’t, you can’t, um, uh, you can’t really, you, you shouldn’t be able to buy them, right? Like, we’re not, like, we’re not willing to be like, okay, we’ll bend a little, you can, you can have a little bit of pedophilia in California. Like, we just have strong convictions, right? It’s not like, okay, this company, you can force them to love the 49ers, but not this company. We’re kind of like, we’re kind of close-minded a about, about the subject of freedom of speech and, and, and free freedom of bodily autonomy.


And this other group, man, they’re, they’re willing to take money or bend or do anything they don’t have values, is what it comes down to. They don’t have values. I, I, and I don’t pass judgment on that other than it makes them purchasable, which means that they’re basically willing to sell you out for a dollar, which means they’re willing to let you die, right? They’re okay with if, if, if someone can get rich, forcing everyone to go to the 49ers games. And that means three people die in the parking lot in a fight. They’re okay with it. They just don’t have values. That’s it. And in the end, people are, they’re okay If people die for them to make money, that’s where it gets, starts to get weird. Jay Hardell, the woke own everything.


So, um, woke is the same as being asleep. Um, uh, I’ll give you an example. When I say to you in a, in a, it’s important to give examples. When I say to you, I’m so proud of the, the, the diversity that I have established here at the SEV podcast. Uh, our, our staff are so diverse, and we have an program that’s inclusive and offers equity for everyone. And then the whole crowd cheers. Right? That, that means you’re woke. And that also means you’re asleep. And then all the people in the audience who think that they know what I just said, they’re all asleep too. <laugh>. And why is it that they’re asleep? Because what happens is, is they have to go inside of their head and interpret what I just said, because I didn’t actually say anything. So, anytime you go inside your head, you’re asleep.


You’re, you, you, you, you’re no longer present. You are asleep. So what they, what they mean is to, to, to what I, what I, then you could presume what they mean when they say diverse. Um, I would presume they meant we have hired someone who is the world’s best football player. We’ve also hired a guy who’s the world’s best plumber. And we’ve hired the guy who said, has the world record in the Rubik’s Cube. And because of those diverse backgrounds, we think that we’re gonna be able to provide you adequate, um, uh, services here at the, um, water treatment plant in, uh, Santa Cruz, California. Okay? But that’s not what they mean. Probably they mean that they, they, they mean that they, they didn’t hire people based on their merit. The guy who does the Rubik’s Cube the fastest, or the guy who’s the best plumber in Santa Cruz, or the guy, you know, um, they didn’t, the guy who got straight A’s at, uh, in, in, in, in, um, molecular biology. They’re not talking about that. But you have to guess what they’re saying because they’re not even comfortable. They’re not even comfortable really telling you what they mean. Oh my God, I’m so proud of what I did at Facebook. I hired a fucking midget who can take cock in his mouth, but he also has a cock check that box. And that’s literally what they mean. But they can’t say it.


And, uh, that shit is going on full steam ahead at CrossFit hq. It’s crazy. Hey, it’s the kind of shit I, I don’t know if you used to do this when you used to sit around with your friends, but I just, you know, you’re, you’re smoking weed with your friends in your college, and you’re like, fuck, how did that shit, how did Japanese and internment camps, how did that ever happen? Or, oh my God, how come no one in Germany stood up against the Nazis? How did that happen? That’s what those people are doing right now in the United States. And people are gonna look back at us and be like, how did that happen?

Mattew Souza (07:31):

It was so obvious.

Sevan Matossian (07:33):

And then there’s gonna be people, like 12 daily doses are like, it’s, oh, no, it’s not really happening. It’s just really isolated incidents. There’s a few bad apples in the bunch. I, dude, think about this. They put fluoride in our water. Think about that. The entire country’s water supply, someone thought it was a good idea to put chemicals in it under the guise of protecting your teeth. Just think about that for a second. And our parents went along with that. Our water supply. Our water supply, they put shit in our water supply. Uh, why, why wouldn’t they just fucking, um, stop people from eating sugar? They already know what the cause is of, of, of the, of the problem. But instead, they, we allowed them to, and, and, and, yeah. And it’s, it’s worse than that actually. Uh, that fluoride doesn’t even help your teeth check the research. Oh, it’s worse than that, buddy

Mattew Souza (08:43):


Sevan Matossian (08:45):

Unfortunately, it’s fucking worse than that.


Just openly. It, it’s just straight up openly. Okay. Did you guys see the Don Lemon thing? Let’s start with that. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> will, will you guys, uh, will someone just, I, I don’t have a link to it. Will someone just, uh, googled, uh, Don Lemon, uh, destroyed? This is amazing. There’s a, there’s an Indian guy. I, I would say he’s a black, to me, Indian dudes are just black dudes. But you, you do what you want. They’re black dudes who make a lot of money. That’s what Indian is to me, <laugh>. And I don’t think that there’s any other definition that necessarily is more valid than that either, by the way. Is, is, is as ridiculous as that sounds. I I, I mean, I I don’t think that there’s any, um, uh, check out. Don Lemon just gets destroyed. Don Lemon openly admits to this Indian guy. This Don Lemon is not as inappropriately racist to this guy. Is is It does, is the guy’s name Vek? Is that what it is? Yeah. Yeah. Wait till you see this. This is crazy. This happened, I think just re like three days ago. This guy’s running for president of the United States Ram

Speaker 5 (09:56):

Viv Ramaswami. Yeah. On, in a heated exchange with CNN’s Don Lemon on Gun rights for Black Americans watch.

Speaker 6 (10:08):

Actually, you know, funny fact is, black people did not get to enjoy the other freedoms until their Second Amendment rights were secured. And I think that that’s one of the lessons that we learn also aren’t allowed to enjoy the freedoms. I disagree with you on that, Don. I disagree with you, and I think you’re doing a historic country. Okay. By failing to recognize the fact that we,

Sevan Matossian (10:26):

Okay, so, so there’s, there’s a, uh, a, a premise here that of Avec is, is making that basically even after the slaves were set free, that there was some, someone else can look into this, but there was some stipulation that that black people still couldn’t carry guns. And VEC is saying it wasn’t the, the, the freedom when the slaves were freed, it still didn’t give ’em the full rights until they got the ability to carry guns. So there was some distinction. I haven’t gone back and researched it, but I will. And, uh, I think there was some distinction that even though they made the slaves free, they didn’t get to enjoy the Second Amendment. And VEC was saying that the irony here is, is that, that they didn’t really experience their freedoms until everyone knew that they could also be carrying guns. It makes complete fucking sense.


Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, then he goes on to say, Don Lemon says, Hey, um, people with melanated skin still aren’t enjoying the, the freedoms that, uh, white people are in this country. Now, that’s completely prepost pre That’s insane. Preposterous, preposterous. Is that the word? Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> preposterous. Not only are they, not only are, are people with melanated skin, um, uh, uh, experiencing the freedoms that white people are, but on many levels, they’re experiencing greater freedoms. It’s a whole, there’s, there’s no, in tons of ways, in tons and tons of ways. I can think of 20 off the top of my head that I saw growing up in the Bay Area, for instance, jaywalking white people are not allowed to jaywalk in the Bay. In the Bay Area. Black people are, it’s, it’s been like that fucking for all the 40 years I lived there. <laugh> white people aren’t allowed to. Black people are, and I could go on and on. Uh, white people aren’t allowed to drink on the streets. Uh, black people are open container. White people have to wear seat belts. Black people don’t. I mean, I can go on and on. I’ve seen tons of examples of this, where people who are black or given more freedoms than white people, I can go on and on and on and on and on,


And, uh, and, and maybe white people may, maybe it’s just black people are more determined to have those freedoms. Maybe if more white people jaywalk that, you know, uh, then they would, they would, uh, they would be allowed to too. But I could go on and on and on and on and on and on. But the point is, is that it’s fucking insane. But, but it’s okay. I’m still glad that they’re having the discussion. It’s good. And Don Lemon, don’t forget, he’s a gay dude, and his ideology is to make sure that people with melanated skin are anyone. Always. Yeah. Black privilege is huge. It’s been here for years. And, and, and, and, and I have no issue with it. Kudos to him. But don’t deny it. Don’t lie about it. I have no, I have no issues of black privilege. Don’t fucking lie about it.


Don’t lie about it. Let me, w w would I rather go to a torque competition with the 30 black girls or 30 white girls? I’ll go with the 30 black girls. Thank you. Yeah. It’s just, there’s things, you know. Um, do I wanna watch the, uh, white Midget League play basketball or, or the tall Black Guy League? Oh, that’s tough. That was probably a bad example, but it’s fucking Don Lemon is a, it’s a joke. He wants to hold black people down so fucking bad. But it’s kind of funny. Um, when I, when I, when I lived with, uh, disabled People, and you can see the movie at won 30 Film Festival awards. It’s on YouTube. It’s called Our House. Incredible film, uh, that I made, first documentary I ever made. And the, the two retarded guys in the house are arguing about who’s more retarded. And when I see this, I see two black guys arguing about who’s like, like, it’s pretty funny. One of them’s like, black men are free and strong, and the other one’s like, black men are, are, are, are, are victims. It’s great. It’s fucking great.

Mattew Souza (14:01):


Sevan Matossian (14:03):

It’s fucking, oh my

Mattew Souza (14:04):


Sevan Matossian (14:04):

This is just fucking same. Okay, go on, Don. Lemon gets destroyed, by the way, here. So Don Lemon is basically saying that, hey, uh, uh, uh, black people don’t, don’t, don’t have, uh, the same rights as white people in this country. No one has the same rights as anyone else. By the way, we are not created equal. The sooner you can accept that, the, the better. Me and Susan are not created equal

Mattew Souza (14:27):

And rich people have a whole entire justice system.

Sevan Matossian (14:29):

Yes, exactly.

Mattew Souza (14:30):

It’s not even the same as yours and eyes at all. And then if you go further lower on that spectrum, the homeless have a whole entire criminal justice system. System

Sevan Matossian (14:36):

Than we do. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Different. Yeah. Yeah. They get all sorts of rights that we don’t get. Yep. You think me and Susan Caleb can camp on the street

Mattew Souza (14:44):

Illegal. Just open drug use.

Sevan Matossian (14:46):

Yeah. Cops walk by. There’s no fucking

Mattew Souza (14:47):

Way drives by. No way.

Sevan Matossian (14:49):

And, and for those of you science buffs, uh, there’s no gravity at the fucking molecular level. How’s that? <laugh>? Okay, go on.

Speaker 6 (14:57):

<laugh> aren’t allowed to enjoy the freedoms of I disagree with you on that, Don. I disagree with you, and I think you’re doing a disservice to our country. Okay? By failing to recognize the fact that we had the quality and you live in this country, then you can disagree with me. But we’re not, you mentioned that I disagree. Three different shades. John. I think we have to be able to talk about

Sevan Matossian (15:17):

This. Ok. Pause this too.

Speaker 6 (15:18):

Regardless of the color of our skin

Sevan Matossian (15:20):

In elementary school, the two black kids and me used to make fun of the Indian kid. And in junior high, the Indian kid who came from India, me and all the other kids made fun of him. His name was a Neil. We called them anal. Like you think it’s fun being fucking, you think it was fun being vec growing up as vec? You think that was cool? You think that’s fun being a, this fucking scrawny, little fucking Indian kid who eats fucking, uh, rice with one fucking hand and wipes his ass with this other, and everyone in fucking your school knows it. You think it’s fun being like dark as a black dude, but you’re not black and you’re not white. Your mom wears fucked up weird colored dresses. Like she looks like she just came from a rave. <laugh>.

Speaker 6 (16:04):

You get the shit end of both sticks there too. Yeah. You hit the

Sevan Matossian (16:07):

Worst of the ra. A fucking fun being a fucking Indian kid. <laugh>.


They have the largest dongs of all ethnicities, and yet no one knows it. They don’t even get credit for it. The giant skinny don ethnicity, all their people back in their homeland, their fucking half their country’s homes are made out of fucking cow dung, crazy town banana pants. Funny hearing a black dude, an Indian dude arguing like this Good and good on vek for fucking having a backbone and going full steam. Uh, uh, correction. Uh, we are watching sev watch YouTube clip of Fox News watching cnn. Damn. You good? That is, uh, that is more important. Uh, Tom, what Tom said is more important than, uh, probably, uh, most people realize that is crazy, crazy important. There, uh, there’s a, uh, an artist named Magret, and he would draw a picture of a, um, a pipe, and he would say, this is a drawing of a picture of a pipe. It, it, it’s some pretty profound shit. It’s cool shit. Okay, proceed.

Speaker 6 (17:22):

Art that I find insulting is when you say today, black Americans don’t have those rights. After we have gone through fact that civil rights revolution in this country. You are sitting here telling an American about the rights and what you find insulting about the, the, the way I live the skin I live in every day. Here’s where you and I have the, the point of black and white that black people don’t have in this country, and that black people do have. Well, here’s where you and I have a different point of view. I think we should be able to express our views regardless of the color of our skin. We should have this debate. I’m not saying you should, without me, regarding you as a man, insulting that you’re me, regarding you as a fellow citizen. You’re, that’s what I’m making here. Whatever ethnicity you are explaining to me,

Sevan Matossian (17:55):

Whatever. Okay. Pause. Pause. There it is. There it is. You see it. Whatever ethnicity you are. First of all, do you think, does anyone here think African American is an ethnicity? Look, look, when you look up at ethnicity, that is not a fucking ethnicity. African American is not a fucking a ca. Um, uh, a Somali is a nationality and an ethnicity. Armenian is a, uh, an ethnicity Mexican. The claimant’s an ethnicity, although fucking on shaky ground, uh, ethnicity, the quality effect of belonging to a population, a group are subgroup made up of people who share a common cultural background. There’s no, there’s no, um, there’s no af that’s not African American. They’re, they do not get an ethnicity.

Mattew Souza (18:42):

That’s a politically correct term, isn’t it?

Sevan Matossian (18:44):

Yeah. They do not get an ethnicity explaining, you know what that was when he said splaining? Yeah, exactly. Condescending. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Yes. Exactly. That’s woke talk explaining.

Mattew Souza (18:56):

And I like how he can’t,

Sevan Matossian (18:57):

Which is different than Ebonics.

Mattew Souza (19:00):

I like how he can’t tell him how the point of view or life that he’s lived, but Don Lemon could explain how everybody else has more privilege than him, and he’s okay to talk about those experiences not being that race. But you can’t explain it back to him. And he doesn’t even understand that he doesn’t even get it.

Sevan Matossian (19:16):

Right. Right.

Mattew Souza (19:17):

He doesn’t understand that he’s doing the same thing he’s claiming he ca someone can’t do back to him.

Sevan Matossian (19:22):

Um, um, um, uh, a hundred percent Asian is, Asian is not ethnicity. Asian is not ethnicity. Uh, Korean is ethnicity and all of them are, are just on shaky ground. Right. Because I mean, some, somewhere, two people fucked, and then the whole thing is just made up. Yeah,

Mattew Souza (19:42):

Yeah, yeah. Uh, after that point of origin, the rest of his touch just spinning stories and drawing imaginary lines in the sand.

Sevan Matossian (19:48):

Yeah. Vec, you got some splaining to do. Yeah. That’s, um, what that is, is that’s, he can’t, he wants to say that’s, um, uh, that’s a gay activist, uh, uh, woke talk.

Mattew Souza (20:01):

Hey, Don, lemons richest. Sorry,

Sevan Matossian (20:02):

I apologize for the gay people out there. I don’t wanna I don’t wanna drag you into it, but, but, but part of the, you see that gay fucking culture narcissistic, that, that element of gay narcissistic culture in Don Lemon just coming out in all his interviews. I hate to name call, but man, it’s, it’s hard not to see how what a bad person he is. Yeah, he is. I can’t believe this is fucking national tv. He should be fired for that shit.

Mattew Souza (20:26):

I wish

Sevan Matossian (20:27):

You, or at least put on sabbatical.

Mattew Souza (20:28):

I wish you just paused and said, you’re right. Please explain the, uh, freedoms that you didn’t enjoy sitting in the position that you were in right now, being paid the salary you are right now with the influence in front of the American people that you do right now. Explain it to me. How’d you go from where you were to here you are now, if you don’t enjoy the same freedoms and, uh, opportunities that everybody else has in the us.

Sevan Matossian (20:52):

Uh, um, on top of what, uh, adding to what Suza said, Jay Hardell, uh, the most privileged CNN Hossein. He has difficulty being a black man.

Mattew Souza (20:59):

Yeah, exactly. There it is. Like, it’s like all the rich people telling you what, how to live your life and climate change, and they just do whatever the fuck they want.

Sevan Matossian (21:08):

And maybe he does have trouble being a black man, but not anymore than fucking Caleb has trouble being a fucking white man. I put it fucking tit for tat every fucking car that has a fucking ski rack on it. Caleb has to be careful when he gets in that, that fucking six foot two lanky fucking frame, his doesn’t fucking bump the top of that ski rack hanging off the edge when he gets in the car. I know. Tall people problems. I assume that shit

Mattew Souza (21:33):

<laugh> call. Hi.

Speaker 8 (21:36):

Yeah. Hi. This is your, uh, on staff gay hire.

Sevan Matossian (21:40):

Oh, thank you. Calling in. Thank you. Yes. Yes. Thank you. I appreciate it. How are you doing? Good morning, sir. Good to hear your voice. What are you doing? What are you doing? I didn’t think you would listen to the live show.

Speaker 8 (21:48):


Sevan Matossian (21:50):

I didn’t think you listened to the live show.

Speaker 8 (21:53):

Oh, I try. I usually, I can catch it on the weekends, but I can’t really catch it during the week.

Sevan Matossian (21:58):

Hey, congratulations on the, on the, um, uh, boxing. How long you been doing that?

Speaker 8 (22:03):

Uh, I just picked it up again, but I did it a lot in my twenties. I did, uh, mixed martial arts and in boxing. Fuck.

Sevan Matossian (22:09):

You look super fun. You look good, Garrett. You look really good.

Speaker 8 (22:13):

I’m trying, trying to get back there.

Sevan Matossian (22:15):

<laugh>. Yeah. You look good. Uh, please. Uh, do, do you have, uh, thoughts on, on Mr. Lemon or, or myself,

Speaker 8 (22:22):

Uh, from the gay community? We don’t, uh, we don’t claim him. Um, we don’t claim him at all.

Sevan Matossian (22:29):

Oh, that hurts. I I picture this wall full of gay people and he’s just on the outside like this. Look with his hands in there. What? Please let me,

Speaker 8 (22:37):

He, well, just like you guys were saying, uh, the hierarchy of like, he is in a different hierarchy of gay people. The regular life that we all go through, he doesn’t go through, he’s that privileged gay and like, we don’t claim him

Sevan Matossian (22:52):

<laugh>. Ok. So, fair enough.

Speaker 8 (22:54):

We just wanna live our lives and not like, I feel like two things can be true. I feel like people don’t have to agree with the gay lifestyle, and also we can still all live comfortably together without bothering each other. And

Sevan Matossian (23:10):

It’s hundred percent

Speaker 8 (23:11):

Like he, it’s, and it’s fine. Like, you don’t have to agree with the lifestyle. You don’t have to agree that we’re married. You don’t have to agree with any of that. That’s your, you don’t have to. But we can also just still talk, do what’s best for our kids, do what’s best for our spouses, our houses, and everybody can be happy, but they’re doing too much.

Sevan Matossian (23:30):

No, no one’s, no one’s, no, no. Bankers are gonna stop the gay community from borrowing money. Right. Uh, right. They obviously have some of the best track record at paying back bank loans of any demographic gay people. And no one’s, no one, no one is upset when gay people move into their fucking neighborhood. Those houses usually have the, the weeds are pulled and the lawns are cut. Yeah. It’s, it’s, um,

Speaker 8 (23:51):

Like we’re not oppressed. Right? There’s, there’s no oppression over here. We’re not like, we’re called a marginalized group, but we’re really not like we can do all of the things that, I mean, if they took our right to marry away, the worst thing that happens is we can’t file taxes together. But my life isn’t gonna change. Loving my wife isn’t gonna change me. Making sure my kid goes to school and gets to do all the things they want. That’s not gonna change. We’re not, go ahead.

Sevan Matossian (24:20):

I wanna ask you, I wanna ask you a question. So I’m walking down the street and I, and I, like yesterday I saw this lady, uh, wearing a pink dress, um, good body, probably 55 years old. And sh and she was wa wearing a pretty short dress. And, um, she was walking a dog and one of her legs was, uh, uh, one of those, um, mechanical legs, like the full leg. Like it, yeah. Even though it was a short skirt, like the whole fucking leg, I couldn’t see where her nub was. Right. So as we’re driving by, I go, oh, hey guys, look, there’s a, um, look, there’s a lady there walking her dog with one leg, right? Yeah. And, um, I, I don’t pass any judgment other than it’s, it’s a rare sight, right? It’s the same thing. Uh, if I see a three-legged dog, I show ’em my boys too. Hey dude, guys look three-legged dog. You know what I mean? Yeah. Or like, if you’re in the parking lot at Kmart and you get out and there’s, you know, the, all those black birds are all fucked up. They always got like a, if none of you ever looked at the birds in like a parking lot, those little black birds in like Walmart or whatever, they always have like one of their feets all club, club foot, or they’re missing of, I don’t know why that is, but they’re all fucked up

Speaker 8 (25:17):


Sevan Matossian (25:17):

Yeah. So, but if I, I do the exact same thing because it’s so rare to me. If I’m walking, I, and I don’t actually, I don’t point it out to my kids, but if I’m walking down the street and I see two, um, girls holding hands or two boys holding hands, I wanna stare.

Speaker 8 (25:32):


Sevan Matossian (25:33):

I wanna, because I just, I just wanna stare. I, I don’t think that gay people feel that way when they see a man and a woman holding hands because it’s, it’s more common. They’ve seen it a million times, right?

Speaker 8 (25:45):


Sevan Matossian (25:46):

And so I think a lot of it is just, there’s this confusion. Um, when, well, like when I went to Varanasi in India and I was walking down the street and fucking every 30 feet, some, some little kid would come up and ask me if he could touch me. And I’m just a fucking five foot, five Armenian dude, but I’m in Varanasi, right? India. Yeah. I mean, there’s, there’s a, a component of just, people are just curious and they’re not used to it. They never seen two girls kiss kissing public.

Speaker 8 (26:09):

I mean, I, listen, I would stop and stare if I saw two girls kissing in public. It’s gorgeous. Like, let’s go <laugh>. I mean, it’s, you know it, and that’s fine. And it’s like, you take it, people, like you said, you get in your own head and people take it so personally, like it’s automatically someone is judging you or someone is thinking bad thoughts about you. That’s a you problem. Like, that’s not a, it’s not a, the person who’s stopping and looking that now,

Sevan Matossian (26:37):

Now that being said, we have to be honest. You also have the other experience. You, you are a full-blown woman with a vagina and titties, but you go into bathrooms and people will be like, yeah, hey, no dude’s in here. And you’re like, Hey, I’m not a dude.

Speaker 8 (26:50):

And that’s a me problem. And, but I, I have to get stronger with that. Like I’ve always felt, so usually when people come at me, they come at me with that intent. I’m not really making it up in my own head.

Sevan Matossian (27:03):

Right. But they’ll

Speaker 8 (27:03):

Verbalize the bad intent. Right?

Sevan Matossian (27:05):


Speaker 8 (27:06):

Then that’s when I kind of shut down and start to, you know, not do it. Cause I just, I don’t wanna make them uncomfortable. I don’t wanna get yelled at and I just assume people are gonna yell at me because it’s happened so often.

Sevan Matossian (27:17):

Now that part sucks and it’s not fair. Like, but, but there’s also, on the other side, life’s not fair. But the truth is, is that sucks. You’re a girl, you wanna use the fucking girl’s bathroom and because you have a fucking short haircut, and because you’re tall, people miscategorize you as, um, a dude and because you wear basketball shorts. Yeah.

Speaker 8 (27:36):

That’s why I feel like the trans, uh, not so much transgender men. Um, they’re really, they’re not the problem so much as transgender women. But I feel like if I have to go through it every day and, you know, plan accordingly on how I’m gonna use the bathroom and where I’m gonna go use the bathroom, and where there’s like single stall bathrooms or family bathrooms. If you, if you’re choosing this lifestyle, if you’re choosing to dress like a woman and act like a woman, and we all know that you’re not one, and we’re uncomfortable when you come in the bathroom, then damn it, you should have to like, go through that too. Plan where you’re gonna go to the bathroom, find the family bathroom. Like I know on the highway going to Utica, which gas stations have family bathrooms that I can go into by myself. So I don’t make anybody uncomfortable. And because this is the life I’ve chosen to wear my hair like this, I’ve chosen to wear big sweatshirts and I understand what’s happening. I understand exactly. You know what people are gonna think, who I am, that, you know what I mean? It, the transgender women have to go through that too. Like, you have to understand that people are not, some people are not comfortable. You chose this lifestyle. This is your choice. So now here, this is, this is what comes with it.

Mattew Souza (28:50):

How long did it, how long did it, sorry, how long did it take you to get comfortable with that? Because I’m like listening to this and I’m, I’m thinking like that, that’s a lot. That, that’s actually a lot to deal with. And there’s a lot of stuff that I would never even think about that I’m listening to your talk and I’m like, holy shit. Like, so how long did it take you to get from the point to where you almost were feeling like upset about this to the, to the point that you are now where you’re saying like, Hey, I made these choices and this is just the reality that I live in now.

Speaker 8 (29:16):

Uh, it, it took a long time. And like I’ve told you before, in the past, I have a lot of people that know me, that have grown up with me, that have helped me kind of work this all out in my head and kind of understand it for myself and be comfortable in exactly what skin I’m in, and understand what the reality of my, my life is like. And, but they won’t even let you have a conversation. Like it, they can’t even have a conversation with them. I ask people, I wanna have a conversation. I want the feedback. I’ve talked to straight women that are my friends that, you know, I don’t wanna go into a bathroom and have somebody with their little girl in there and they see me and freak out. Like, I, I don’t wanna do that. I, so it just, it, it took.

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