#867 – Hiller’s World

Sevan Matossian (00:00):

We’ll just go, bam, we’re live. Holy dumpster fires. Uh, no, I wasn’t taking it fast too. Andrew Hiller. Hi.

Andrew Hiller (00:09):

Hey, how you

Sevan Matossian (00:09):

Been? Welcome to the Sovan podcast. We’re live, my correspondent on the East Coast, Andrew Hiller. I apologize for him being shirtless. The storms were wildly aggressive and it blew his shirt right off. But the Sev on podcast is here with the latest new news from the CrossFit scene. Yes. Hmm. I, um, saw a post Andrew Maid about the training department, and then first he made a post with that was referencing the Buttery Boys and, um, Danny Spiegel. And I knew I needed to call him and ask him what that was about. I didn’t understand it just

Andrew Hiller (00:45):

Because I you No,

Sevan Matossian (00:47):

I know I’m a little, uh, I, I don’t, I don’t. I’m, I’m, oh, I, I hashtagged at 51 and then I, then he did the other thing showing the, the girl not squatting below parallel. And I was already tripping. I had already, Hillary and I had a long conversation. You didn’t do anything, uh, regarding the girl with the barbell over her head, right? No, we just talked about it. No. Correct. Okay. So the training department’s supposed to be like, you know, the pinnacle of showing what training should look like. So I saw that lady holding 35 pounds over her baby’s head and just didn’t seem right. So Hillary and I talked about that. So he has these two Instagram posts that I was just dying. I’m just laughing my ass off. I can’t even believe they’re real. It’s like, it’s almost like the God’s Love Hiller. They’re just throwing them alley hoops

Andrew Hiller (01:31):

In the comments section of the video. Berger’s a Berger commented, I don’t know which Berger, but apparently it’s the Berger in that video giving a reason as to why they’re squatting to that depth. And then of course, I fought back.

Sevan Matossian (01:49):

Oh, I can’t wait.

Andrew Hiller (01:50):

He gave you some money.

Sevan Matossian (01:52):

I can’t wait. Oh, uh, Z uh, uh, uh, thank you, Zach. Hi, Zach.

Andrew Hiller (01:57):

You’ve been witnessed.

Sevan Matossian (01:59):

You’re good, dude. Thank you. I like money.

Andrew Hiller (02:06):

Yeah, I heard

Sevan Matossian (02:07):

This. And then as we’re discussing this in the, um, the most highest level, top secret CrossFit games threads on planet Earth that everyone knows about and everyone wants to be a part of, but you just can’t. It’s, it’s elite. Um, it’s thes the, it’s the Dork squad, although there is like one or two dudes in there who aren’t dorks. Um, but anyway, in that thread, right before we went live, uh, just shit started unraveling. I cannot believe that thread should almost be public. Just, it’s just a, it’s like the best news source for CrossFit games.

Andrew Hiller (02:50):

It’s like a live forum.

Sevan Matossian (02:51):

Yeah. It’s like a, um, it’s like what the stock, it’s like what the ticker is to the stock market.

Andrew Hiller (02:56):

Oh man. That’d be awesome.

Sevan Matossian (02:59):

It’s crazy.

Andrew Hiller (03:00):

Should we just pull the thread open and just start going through all the messages here? This could be it.

Sevan Matossian (03:04):

Look, there’s some chick you banged.

Andrew Hiller (03:06):

That’s the one. How do you like her new picture?

Sevan Matossian (03:09):

It’s cool. It’s trippy. She looks European. She looks European. She looks like she’s from space.

Andrew Hiller (03:13):

I think I’ve asked you that. Cause now I’m having deja vu.

Sevan Matossian (03:16):

Okay. Um, so I was gonna start with, uh, some, uh, oh, here we go. Savon uh, talking Fitness has a game show and Chase was on it. You gotta step up your game. Oh, yeah, I know <laugh>. This is my game show. And Hillary is the contestant number one. What about, uh, uh, Barry, uh, McCullin. What about, uh, Denise Thomas post addressing that?

Andrew Hiller (03:37):


Sevan Matossian (03:37):

We can get to all that. We’re gonna get to all that. We’re gonna do it very quickly tonight. I don’t have time to fuck around. I got David. We on tomorrow morning, he can

Andrew Hiller (03:45):

Get fucking around.

Sevan Matossian (03:46):


Andrew Hiller (03:48):

He can only bang me if he’s home.

Sevan Matossian (03:50):


Andrew Hiller (03:51):

Oh. If that’s the truth.

Sevan Matossian (03:52):

All right.

Andrew Hiller (03:53):

<laugh>, did you just get uncomfortable?

Sevan Matossian (03:55):

No, I, well, kind of you saw that. I don’t like the fact of anyone knowing you’re not there. I don’t like the fact of, like, you see what I’m saying?

Andrew Hiller (04:03):

Yeah. But it’s all right. She has all the weapons ready.

Sevan Matossian (04:06):

Okay. Good, good, good response. Okay. I, I wanna,

Andrew Hiller (04:08):

Lot of weapons.

Sevan Matossian (04:09):

I I wanna share this with you guys. Um, yeah. Hillary has not seen this. Andrew Hiller has not seen this. I, um, I told him that I was gonna bring this up. This just popped up in the thread. This is, um, there’s this, uh, girl, um, uh, uh, Nicki Brazer. Braier Brazers. And she is on the cocktail podcast. And she’s, she’s, I, I, I, she’s, she’s, I presume she has a vagina. That’s, that’s all I know about her. Look at she ask questions. And she had a, she was pregnant and then she had a baby, I think. And then she also asked questions to the athletes after the, um, after they win. Sometimes at the games, you see her in the live feed. But then she’s also said some just vapid shit when she’s on with Danny Spiegel. Just completely, uh, as, as they say at the Talking Elite Fitness, nothing burgers. Like, when you have the opportunity to, you, you have the opportunity to tell someone, Hey, your pushup’s no good, because your chest didn’t touch the ground. And at the top, your elbows didn’t lock out. Instead, she just goes, that pushup’s wrong. And she’ll tell you that ad nauseum. It’s like, dude, either tell me how it’ll fix it or what’s wrong or shut up. But here we go. This is

Andrew Hiller (05:20):

Her the best coach ever. That’s wrong.

Sevan Matossian (05:23):

That’s wrong. How should I fix it? Yeah, I told you that’s wrong. Okay, here we go. Listen up. People. This is, uh, crazy town. Banana pants, as they say in the hood. Here we go. Oh, yeah. Unwatchable. She’s, yeah. Completely unwatchable. I don’t wanna be mean to her. Uh, but, um, here we go.

Andrew Hiller (05:41):

Is the truth mean,

Sevan Matossian (05:43):

Uh, brace herself? I, because she might be watchable to someone.

Andrew Hiller (05:48):

Everyone in the comment who finds her watchable, please comment now.

Sevan Matossian (05:51):

I think she’s most unwatchable. I think she’s most watchable. I’m giddy. Thank you, Barry. I’m giddy. Cause I just can’t even believe this shit. Like five minutes before we go live. Thi this thing falls in our lap. And I just am so excited to show Hillary. Hillary hasn’t seen it. Yeah,

Andrew Hiller (06:05):

I’m pumped.

Sevan Matossian (06:06):

I I I, when people pick on her for the questions, she asks, when after the athletes win on the live broadcast, I feel bad for her. Like, what can she ask? They have to be shallow questions. So I always feel like I have to defend her in those moments. But she’s horrible on the podcast. But here we go. Can a, can a girl be a symp or is that only due to her sims?

Andrew Hiller (06:24):


Sevan Matossian (06:25):

What’s even a girl anymore? Yeah. She’s a symp. I think. I’ve never called anyone a symp, but she’s a symp. Here we go. Action.

Speaker 3 (06:32):

Before leaderboards are finalized, HQ conducts a video review process. Some athletes, they choose to make their videos public, but a big majority of them, they decide to keep them private. What would be the impact if all athletes made their videos public for the community to weigh in on?

Sevan Matossian (06:52):

That’s a powerhouse media, extraordinary giant. Lauren Kalel, the host of this show, asking, uh, the, the participants what would it, what would it, what would it, how would it affect the games if they made all of the videos that the participants or the contestants or whatever you wanna call ’em, had to make them public for Andrew Hiller to see? She didn’t say that. I added that. And here we go. Here’s the response from Nikki Brazer. Ah, oh my God. Andrew, she wants you.

Speaker 3 (07:20):

One minute on the clock, Nikki, we will start with you. Oh

Andrew Hiller (07:24):


Sevan Matossian (07:25):

Look, she did the little fucking Hitler thing.

Andrew Hiller (07:27):

What’s that? Oh no, that’s, that’s teenage. The Sabrina Witch dude.

Sevan Matossian (07:31):

Um, the Hitler did it first. And then Charlie Chaplin. Here we go.

Speaker 4 (07:35):

Ugh. I think this is really hard. Like, I, I am kind of doing this and being like, I think we should kinda let it happen. Cause on the one hand, like the internet is just such a garbage fire, and I hate the hate that exists out there. And I

Sevan Matossian (07:51):

Where do you go on the internet? That’s a garbage fire. <laugh>. I’m wondering where you go.

Andrew Hiller (07:56):

Dude, she’s talking right at you or me or

Sevan Matossian (07:59):

Officer. Not me. I’m a, I’m a good dude. What is she? Talk? Where do you go? Where do you like Twitter? I twitter’s pretty crazy.

Andrew Hiller (08:07):


Speaker 4 (08:07):

Dude, I, I hate the armchair experts and the people who,

Sevan Matossian (08:09):

The armchair experts. You’re in a fucking show as an armchair expert. <laugh>.

Andrew Hiller (08:15):

Damn right. It’s ex No way. That chair has no arms on it, dude. Right? And neither does mine right now. There there’s no arms on this chair. The dog. Okay.

Sevan Matossian (08:25):

I I really liked your, your white microphone. You were not gonna be oppressed by the, by the black microphone. Were you? Very good. That, that’s the, that’s the first white microphone I’ve ever seen, by the way. Here we go.

Speaker 4 (08:36):

Really make it their mission too. May everybody can have an opinion, but there are some people who really make it their mission to go out there and like personally attack people.

Sevan Matossian (08:45):

There’s some people who make it their personal mission to go out and attack people. No.

Andrew Hiller (08:49):

Is she, are you talking about me?

Sevan Matossian (08:52):

I just fucking chugged fron. He’s cock for fucking an hour and a half today. I’m my, my slate is clear. Is it for attacking people?

Andrew Hiller (09:00):

Confession. Are you kidding to me? Is that what you’re comparing that to?

Sevan Matossian (09:03):

Well, she’s saying that people make it the mission to go out and attack people. I, I, I’m absolved of my sins. I, I had the, the super Christian Rich Froning on today. I confessed to him for an hour and a half. I’m good. I’m ready to attack. I’m ready to get more sins and have ’em back on. Do you think you do that if she’s talking to you? I know I’m reading into it, but do you think that you just go out of your way to attack people?

Andrew Hiller (09:24):

Is I I feel as if she’s directing it right at you or I or both or us. And every time I get a chance to, I talk that I’m talking. It’s as if I’m looking at a blob. This, there’s certain blobs with more followers than other blobs. And that blob didn’t squa low parallel. I don’t care who does it, it’s just, it’s gonna get a bigger reaction from the world if it’s got that

Sevan Matossian (09:47):

Blob didn’t squa low parallel.

Andrew Hiller (09:49):

Yeah. It’s no joke. So like, I didn’t even know I

Sevan Matossian (09:52):

Like it.

Andrew Hiller (09:53):

The athlete who won with me O’Brien week, week one, quarter finals. I just found out that the person’s name is Victor Hoffer. I just knew him as the dude who wasn’t Squat Below or ex hip extending his hips on workout one.

Sevan Matossian (10:06):

Yeah. Um, and, and so, so it’s, it’s, it’s not your thing to hate on people or anyone in particular. You’re just out there just when you see things that don’t, don’t patterns that aren’t working. Yes. Or staying within the, the, the, the bumpers, the rails that, uh, make this thing a legitimate competition. You’re inspired to make content about it.

Andrew Hiller (10:27):

Yeah. It’s like flubber moving around and, yeah. Yeah. Exactly.

Sevan Matossian (10:32):

Okay, I’m gonna rewind it 10 seconds so we can hear that one more time. I,

Speaker 4 (10:34):

I hate the armchair experts and the people who really make it their mission to, I mean, everybody can have an opinion, but there are some people who really make it their mission to go out there and like personally attack people.

Sevan Matossian (10:45):

So, so she said make it your mission to personally attack people. You’re not personally attacking people. You’re personally trying to not you, you, you, you notice blobs that aren’t staying within the guidelines and the rules and you’re assisting and pointing those things out. And it just so happens that one of her friends keeps getting, um, one of the blobs out there is is one of her friends and keeps getting uh, is a target for a lot of

Andrew Hiller (11:09):

Who has 1.7 million followers and gets a lot of attention. Which Megans I should be talking about this person

Sevan Matossian (11:17):

If they mess up, right?

Andrew Hiller (11:19):


Sevan Matossian (11:20):


Andrew Hiller (11:21):

Oh, but yes, this is correct Vesh. I do personally attack CrossFit because CrossFit is an entity. I do not hope that comes attacking CrossFit.

Sevan Matossian (11:32):

Hillary definitely person. I don’t even know what that means personally. I am the person. Oh, you mean like, you’ll be like, you will be like me, Andrew, Hillary things that CrossFits fucking up.

Andrew Hiller (11:40):


Sevan Matossian (11:41):

Okay. And I like when I say DIA’s name, I like to say his last name too.

Andrew Hiller (11:45):


Sevan Matossian (11:47):

Maharaj. You don’t have to, but it’s just, it’s, it seems like a missed opportunity cuz it’s such a fun name to say.

Andrew Hiller (11:51):

And I only know how to say that cause I’ve heard you say it 10,000 times.

Sevan Matossian (11:55):

Devesh Maharaj. And you could also just call him the hammer, even though he is got a wrench in there now too. I like that. The hammer.

Andrew Hiller (12:00):

All right.

Sevan Matossian (12:02):

What do you think that means? His Why does he have a hammer and a wrench? You think he’s a mechanic?

Andrew Hiller (12:06):

I figured you gave him those. Is that not the wrench you give people?

Sevan Matossian (12:09):

No, I, well, I can’t even see the Oh. Oh. I don’t know. I can’t see who’s, I don’t know who the moderators are.

Andrew Hiller (12:16):

Well, I know Vindicates got one. Is there a little symbol next to his name?

Sevan Matossian (12:20):

Uh, not in the, in the, in the back end. I can’t see anything. I just see like Jake Halpin. Jeffrey Zach.

Andrew Hiller (12:27):

Oh, nuts. Oh no, Phil Kelly’s got a, a wrench and he doesn’t have a little thing.

Sevan Matossian (12:31):

Oh, he’s pretending to be a moderator. <laugh>. Can he get disqualified for that? Can he get kicked off for pretending?

Andrew Hiller (12:39):

No, he’s a good dude. You only kick up. No, he won’t kick out anybody.

Sevan Matossian (12:42):

He gave himself a wrench.

Andrew Hiller (12:44):

All right. I’m, I’m pining for more of this chick. Give me more.

Sevan Matossian (12:47):

Okay. Okay. Okay. Yes. Stay focused. Thank you Andrew. Keep me on. Here we go.

Speaker 4 (12:51):

And I think that, that more of that would happen if we made more videos public for the community, but I

Sevan Matossian (12:57):

Also, there would be more personal attacks if we made more videos available.

Andrew Hiller (13:02):

No, no. Cuz there’s no personal attacks currently. How could be there be more than none.

Sevan Matossian (13:09):

Right. So there would be more corrections.

Andrew Hiller (13:12):

There would be more attacks upon CrossFit for continuously not abiding by their own rules. Slash only giving out 15% penalties where more ones are probably deserved. But nothing personal on any single athlete ever.

Sevan Matossian (13:26):

Hey, so you pointed out that Rich didn’t, um, have his thumb wrapped. Did he, did Rich have to show that video? Or that was by choice?

Andrew Hiller (13:35):

That was by choice. And I actually think he said at the beginning of your show earlier that he didn’t understand why they put it up cause it was so boring.

Sevan Matossian (13:42):

<laugh>. Right? Right. He did now, yeah. Choice. Now, I, I don’t, I, I apologize. Uh, um, Scott Vander slt, um, but, um, his, you, you came down pretty hard on the buttery bros. Hard might not be the the right word, but you pointed out that the buttery bros as being some of the premier, if not the premier, um, uh, uh, uh, anthropological, uh, recorders, you know, they’re, they’re, they’re, they’re anthropologists recording the CrossFit space, documenting the history that they should have known better than to show that. Um, do you put any of that on Scott also like, dude, Scott, you fucked your homeboy Rich.

Andrew Hiller (14:24):

Uh, because Scott,

Sevan Matossian (14:25):

Scott, Scott could arguably be the biggest guy in the space too.

Andrew Hiller (14:28):

Yeah. Perhaps that was a missed opportunity to

Sevan Matossian (14:31):

Ask Pound. Scott, you need to ask Pound Scott too

Andrew Hiller (14:34):

How to go get, get Scott in the butt real hard. However, <laugh>, I I’ve given him props before too. People didn’t understand that there was a, there was an open workout where you’re supposed to be throwing the wall ball to a specified height, and they were unclear in the standards, and it seemed as if Vander salute, or maybe it’s Ben Davidson, I know they’ve got two people there who do some videography, right? It appeared as if they purposefully missed the target height because who knows what Froning was doing. The review team knows, and he didn’t get an adjustment. So we’re going to assume he was doing them the correct way.

Sevan Matossian (15:04):

Well, he doesn’t submit those. He doesn’t, those videos that they show I heard aren’t the videos they submit, I heard that they have stationary cameras.

Andrew Hiller (15:12):


Sevan Matossian (15:13):


Andrew Hiller (15:14):

Correct. So that was the p the part that people were getting confused on the exact same thing you said. Yes. I know there’s another camera. However, the one they’re given to the public, they’re not gonna get incriminate him. And that’s what I’m talking about with the buttery bros, is they incriminate beagle, what is it called when you have a responsibility to do something and you completely disregard that responsibility?

Sevan Matossian (15:34):

Uh, drug addict.

Andrew Hiller (15:36):

Yeah. The, the buttery bros are drug addicts.

Sevan Matossian (15:38):

<laugh>. Okay. I, uh, whoa,

Andrew Hiller (15:43):

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. This is incorrect. <laugh>. I do not hate Ben and his team. I think that they had an athlete on their team last year that was out of the range at which they should have been eligible. But that doesn’t mean I hate them. They’re irresponsible. Thank you, Alexis. I suppose that worked. And they’re drug addicts. The <laugh>

Sevan Matossian (16:04):

Irresponsible. Yes. Irresponsible.

Andrew Hiller (16:05):

Okay. Negligent.

Sevan Matossian (16:07):

Uh, uh, uh, Denise, um, uh, with, uh, the lip gloss on says, uh, no one’s talking about Laura Hvat. Oh, we’ll get back to this hold. Please repost it. Let, let’s get, let’s get through this, uh, Nicki Brasier thing.

Andrew Hiller (16:18):

I talked about that yesterday.

Sevan Matossian (16:20):

Okay, here we go.

Speaker 4 (16:21):

We think that, you know, there’s something to be said about moving in the direction of being a larger, more mainstream sport and every other sport subjects itself to the public eye in our respect. You know, we, we have replays and we have public scrutiny that happened on the world’s largest sports stages. So, ugh, it’s really hard for me to say that

Andrew Hiller (16:42):

She wished a full second with that.

Speaker 4 (16:44):

Kinda help get us in that direction because I just like hate it.

Andrew Hiller (16:48):

<laugh>. You see this coming from Trish.

Sevan Matossian (16:54):

Nikki looks like she’s about to say, oh no. Stepbrother <laugh>

Speaker 4 (16:59):


Andrew Hiller (16:59):

Washing machine.

Sevan Matossian (17:01):

<laugh>. Oh, poor Nikki.

Andrew Hiller (17:05):

I’m sweating <laugh>.

Sevan Matossian (17:07):

Oh, poor Nikki. One day, you see how she looked up and she said to the heavens, one time I was in Africa and I was filming these kids, and it, there was famine. The kids were emaciated. They looked like they were gonna die. And I remember crying and dropping to a knee and screaming up to the heaven’s. Why? God, that’s a true story. That’s, but it was still less passionate than, than her online.

Speaker 4 (17:28):


Sevan Matossian (17:29):


Andrew Hiller (17:30):

Look her

Speaker 4 (17:30):

Stages. So, ugh. It’s really hard for me to say that that would kind of help get us in that direction because I just like hate it online so much. Um, and I do think that it’s important to think about the athlete’s mental health. And this would

Andrew Hiller (17:45):

Time’s up

Sevan Matossian (17:46):

To think about the athlete’s mental health, health. Did she really just slip that in there? Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, they’re all fucking cuckoo. Let me think about the athlete’s mental health.

Speaker 4 (17:58):

Seriously. Take a toll on them. Say it’s a hard, it’s a hard, kinda like

Sevan Matossian (18:03):

It seriously takes a toll on them. Listen, I can’t believe, I can’t believe I brought up Rich’s grip thing today on my podcast. I hope he’s okay. He

Andrew Hiller (18:14):

Handle that rather well.

Sevan Matossian (18:16):


Andrew Hiller (18:19):

Could you imagine? Huh?

Sevan Matossian (18:24):

Hey, listen, any, any athlete who’s having mental health issues, because they gave their whole life to go to the CrossFit games and something weird happened, just be really thankful that no one snipped off your penis or your tits and that you didn’t have parents who encouraged that. How’s that? Now? Do you feel better? Be thankful you don’t live in fucking Somalia.

Andrew Hiller (18:47):

Or better yet, read the rules.

Sevan Matossian (18:51):

<laugh>. Be thankful you’re not one of those armpit hairs that’s growing in, in Andrea Hiller’s armpit at lightning speed because he’s on California hormones.

Andrew Hiller (18:59):

Dude, that, that doesn’t grow any faster. It’s doesn’t, it’s all the rest of the body <laugh> that grows

Sevan Matossian (19:04):

Faster. Can’t even fucking believe it. Oh, it’s their mental health issues that make them such great a athletes. Anyway, dude, is there anything you wanna say? Say, uh, Zack, uh, toand CrossFit is evolving. Used to be a bunch of Kool-Aid drinkers holding hands and singing kumbaya, you know, I like that. Now there are critics and commentators, uh, catalyzing it’s legitimacy. Every sport has this, it’s good

Andrew Hiller (19:34):

Everyone’s bringing up the Anika Greer story, but I haven’t seen it, so I’m gonna check it out and see if it applies really quick, if that’s cool.

Sevan Matossian (19:41):

You mean, didn’t she? Yeah, go ahead. Didn’t she have it? She had something last year. We covered, she handled it well.

Andrew Hiller (19:46):

Is it the pink and blue post? Is it, is this the one everyone’s talking about? Or the story itself?

Sevan Matossian (19:53):

Like, uh, Devesh Maharaj the hammer even worse at Pube. And that’s, that depends. Some people would rather be a pube and inhaler’s pants than under the armpit. Uh, I can pull up, uh, Ms. Greer’s, uh, in, you want me to pull up her Instagram?

Andrew Hiller (20:09):

I I’m just not sure if they’re talking about last year’s story as if her getting kicked out because she missed the submission deadline or if there’s an actual story that she put up. I just don’t know what people are talking about.

Sevan Matossian (20:24):

Hmm. Well, either way. Okay, fine. I’m go until, until we know I’m going to your, uh, Instagram account. Okay.

Andrew Hiller (20:31):


Sevan Matossian (20:32):

Congratulations Lauren, on the new show.

Andrew Hiller (20:36):

<laugh>, you, you know, really? I was expecting that to be worse. I mean, it wasn’t good by any means. And it’s, it’s upsetting that Yes. It, she’s hard to listen to. I, I just

Sevan Matossian (20:50):

Don’t know. Do you think that when she said that she was concerned about your mental, uh, health when she

Andrew Hiller (20:55):

I hope so.

Sevan Matossian (20:56):


Andrew Hiller (20:57):


Sevan Matossian (20:58):

Okay. This is, I didn’t

Andrew Hiller (21:00):

The other day saying, I hope that you’re okay with what that person said over there. Just somewhere completely off topic. And I was like, really? You think that that’s gonna get to me? Of all the things like that <laugh>.

Sevan Matossian (21:12):

Oh, someone who, who was just, someone said they look, they were looking out for you.

Andrew Hiller (21:15):


Sevan Matossian (21:17):

And I was like, you should be like, well, I didn’t even see it until you pointed out Now I’m gonna kill myself.

Andrew Hiller (21:22):

Yep. That’s exactly how I responded.

Sevan Matossian (21:25):

Okay. So I see this post and it says the results are in and it’s Morri Povich. Do you even know who that is? Hillary?

Andrew Hiller (21:33):

Yeah. He’s the guy who says the results are in.

Sevan Matossian (21:37):

Oh, really? That’s his one of his taglines.

Andrew Hiller (21:40):

Are you kidding me?

Sevan Matossian (21:41):

No, I didn’t even know that. You don’t

Andrew Hiller (21:42):

Know who this guy is?

Sevan Matossian (21:44):

I do. When I was a little kid, he had a show. It was

Andrew Hiller (21:46):

People who have people cheating on one another and to determine whether or not their kids are, this is why you didn’t get it. You’ve never seen the Mai show?

Sevan Matossian (21:54):

Yeah, but I saw it like four, literally 40 years ago when I was 10. He was on the air, bro. Yeah, he was, he was married to Connie Chung

Andrew Hiller (22:01):

When his show was big. That’s what it is. You didn’t have a tv?

Sevan Matossian (22:06):

I maybe not, maybe not. What he, is he still on the, he, he had a show that was called Kern Affairs, I think. What was the show? You saw him on? The Mory Show

Andrew Hiller (22:17):

Where he has the groups of people on, there’s usually three people and it’s usually a dude and two chicks, and the, the dude is with one of the chicks and then there’s another chick and they’re determining whether or not he knocked up the other girl. And then they take a paternity test and the results are in, they determine that you lied and you are the father.

Sevan Matossian (22:36):

Oh shit.

Andrew Hiller (22:38):

You’ve never seen this?

Sevan Matossian (22:39):

No, the results are in, I’m looking to see if I can find it. Uh, him saying that on video. That’s awesome. Do you think a lot of people got that most And the comments tell me, did most of you guys get that?

Andrew Hiller (22:49):

I, I seen, I think so. <laugh>, you didn’t know that. He’s basically telling ’em whether or not people are the fathers of the children and, and then it says there’s, there’s a huge reaction afterwards. Either they’re all angry or they’re all happy.

Sevan Matossian (23:06):

Wow. Okay.

Andrew Hiller (23:06):

Everyone got

Sevan Matossian (23:07):

Dude? Oh, look. Yes. Yep. Yes, yes. Oh, shit. We all got it. Oh, yes. Oh no. Too many. Oh shit. Boomer. Oh, that hurts. Okay, fine. Okay, so now I’m know why. Okay, fine. So, um,

Andrew Hiller (23:23):

There it is. You are not the father.

Sevan Matossian (23:25):

Uh, so he’ll, I see this, the results are in, and I see that there’s like over 170 comments, so I’m like, wow, what’s going on here? And so then I, I, I, uh, I have to click to see the next slide. And it says it’s Hebrew Cannon. My, uh, former colleague, uh, incredible filmmaker, hard worker. She repeated

Andrew Hiller (23:44):


Sevan Matossian (23:46):

What? Say it again.

Andrew Hiller (23:47):

I didn’t realize it felt like this was a month ago. <laugh>,

Sevan Matossian (23:52):

Sorry. Uh, Heber Hebert says she repeated this workout after we left. Now what does that mean?

Andrew Hiller (23:58):

They were there on what was either a Friday or Saturday and they were at CrossFit and Victus doing the quarter final workouts, and that’s when they would’ve grabbed the footage for the video they released on the ensuing Monday, where they slow motioned her using the grips on the deadlift and a workout work. Clearly states you cannot do that. And they’re saying this because after they had left on either that Friday or Saturday, they had spoken with Spiegel giving her a Sunday potentially and Saturday night to have had redone that workout and then sent that workout in instead of the one where they had used for the film that they had shot and used. I couldn’t have said it any smoother than that.

Sevan Matossian (24:44):

They insinuated, but they but you didn’t, you didn’t know for sure, correct? I’m saying she she repeated the workout.

Andrew Hiller (24:50):

Well, what’s the insinuation?

Sevan Matossian (24:53):

Oh, oh, after we left. Okay. Okay. Straight forward. Right. Okay. But, but they didn’t film it. It was after they left. Okay. That’s the part I misunderstood. Not

Andrew Hiller (25:01):

Filmed the repeated workout. Correct.

Sevan Matossian (25:03):

So they have no proof that she repeated the workout after we had left. Because if they had left, that means they didn’t see it.

Andrew Hiller (25:11):

Correct? They

Sevan Matossian (25:12):

Did not see it. Okay. So he’s he’s just standing up for his homegirl who he just filmed

Andrew Hiller (25:17):

Because the, the, the thought would be then that they asked and she had said so.

Sevan Matossian (25:22):

Yeah. Okay. Fair enough. Okay. Okay. So, so we move on to, so we move on to the next slide. And it’s, uh, Danny Spiegel, uh, gets a major penalty for using gymnastic grips during the deadlift, uh, workout.

Andrew Hiller (25:38):

This is what I speculated. So the word it says no longer speculated.

Sevan Matossian (25:42):


Andrew Hiller (25:42):

The speculation was the score that she had put up was 5 53, I believe in the video. Yeah. The buttery bros made, it was 5 55. And then the one that you’ll see on the quarterfinals leaderboard up until this post was that score. And some people thought, oh, you’re reaching, maybe that’s just the time that she got on the repeat because it was the end of the weekend. She was tired and maybe that helped her that much. Oh, but you see the score just, and this is the reason why, and it really whittles out a lot of the reason that that could have happened, if any. I, there’s, there’s like no chance

Sevan Matossian (26:18):

<laugh>. Uh, if, if it was, uh, 15, uh, percent of 5 55, let’s just say it’s, uh, six minutes would be, uh, 15, 30, 45, 60 a minute, 15 a minute and 30, which would’ve meant let’s say a minute and 25, which would’ve taken her score to about, uh, seven minutes and seconds.

Andrew Hiller (26:44):

I’m doing it right now.

Sevan Matossian (26:45):

So that’s, that, that’s not a, um, 15% penalty on 5 55.

Andrew Hiller (26:52):

Yes, it is. I’m doing it right now. You’re wrong,

Sevan Matossian (26:55):

<laugh>. Oh, you’re right, you’re right. I was doing 15 out of a hundred. It’s 15 out of 60,

Andrew Hiller (27:00):

Dude. It’s

Sevan Matossian (27:00):

Exactly. Okay. Okay. You’re right, you’re right. I apologize. I was, I was thinking there were a hundred seconds and I figured out as if there were a hundred seconds in a minute. No ma’am.

Andrew Hiller (27:08):

These are, these are minutes. These are minutes and seconds, not

Sevan Matossian (27:10):

Dollars. Okay. Fact checked by Savon and, uh, then fact checked by Hiller and, uh, so, okay. Yes. Okay, so now we know now because of this we can speculate that what Heber reported was not accurate.

Andrew Hiller (27:27):


Sevan Matossian (27:27):

Sorry. Or that she, do you think she did repeat it, but her redo time was worse. So she thought it’s better to take the possible penalty. I I like your thinking, Kate, but then what if they would’ve deed her?

Andrew Hiller (27:42):

Well, she obviously knows they’re not gonna do that.

Sevan Matossian (27:45):

She does?

Andrew Hiller (27:47):

Yeah. Well, look what happened last year.

Sevan Matossian (27:49):

What happened last year?

Andrew Hiller (27:51):

She put up a workout that, that was, you called me that day and I don’t think I’d ever really spoken to you much. And you’re like, dude, that’s me. Workouts ridiculous. You got her

Sevan Matossian (28:03):

<laugh>. Oh, with the, with the, with the lockouts on the, um, muscle ups.

Andrew Hiller (28:06):

Correct. It, it was 30 muscle ups and something like 18 of ’em wouldn’t have counted. And then my big thing there was if you can’t do 18 of the repetitions, how many of ’em, or what reason do you even have to really finish that workout?

Sevan Matossian (28:23):

Uh, Jeffrey Birchfield fifth grade math. I understand. It was very clear though. Mistake that I made, I was figuring out is if it was a hundred seconds and not 60 seconds, I think you can excuse me for that. It’s, uh,

Andrew Hiller (28:34):

Oh, Jeff, that’s the grade math really?

Sevan Matossian (28:37):

I don’t know if it is or not, but not

Andrew Hiller (28:38):


Sevan Matossian (28:39):

But I’m only good. I’m really good at third grade math. Okay. So I get what’s going on here. I get what’s going on here. Okay, so let’s go to the next slide. Okay, so now, now we’re tripping a little bit. Oh, oh, here, we got too far ahead. Uh, the lie detector determined that was a lie. So what was a lie? Which part? What Heber said

Andrew Hiller (28:59):

What? Well, potentially no, because Heber might not be lying, but if Heber isn’t lying, it means Spiegel is, unless there’s a, an avenue where Kate, what Kate said is correct, which is she didn’t want me. What

Sevan Matossian (29:16):

If she redid the video but the video’s damaged? Well, she had a corrupt file and didn’t upload it,

Andrew Hiller (29:21):

Then it doesn’t count. And then she would’ve had to have put in the grip video. And there is a world where there is a truth and everything here is for not, and that there’s, and all that has to happen is a very simple explanation. It would take no more than five seconds

Sevan Matossian (29:40):

<laugh>. Right, right, right. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I did it. Here’s the video,

Andrew Hiller (29:43):

Here’s the timestamp.

Sevan Matossian (29:44):

Yeah. Well I’m glad it’s not, cuz this is making, this is for making for some great fucking content. And I like you, like you said, uh, like you’ve been watching Game of Thrones or something like you’ve spoken old English for forgot, and you’re like, then all of this would be for have not take a knee [inaudible] Oh yes.

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