#837 – Who is Brian Friend?

Sevan Matossian (00:00):

Damn. I keep forgetting to bring my new cards. Bam. We’re live. Good morning. I woke up sick this morning. Well, I don’t know, sixth or too strong, but

Brian Friend (00:13):

Not, not feeling your best.

Sevan Matossian (00:15):

Well, I feel my best. Just my, well, I don’t know how to explain. I don’t know how to explain it. It’s not gonna stop. Normally

Brian Friend (00:23):

Sick is your best.

Sevan Matossian (00:25):

Well, some, normally when people say that they’re sick, it’s like they’re gonna change something that they do throughout the day. I just woke up with like, my, I, I shouldn’t even call it sick. I woke up and my, my nose felt stuffy and my throat is sore. Dude, it’s been raining here. I’m not joking for a month.

Brian Friend (00:39):

That sucks.

Sevan Matossian (00:40):

It’s just, it’s just a, it’s a crazy, crazy downpour. And, uh, we have like a big storm coming in for the next three days and it’s warmer than usual here too. It’s crazy. Last night it didn’t even, my house didn. Its humid. Yeah, humid. It’s crazy. Not like humid like the East coast, but like last night my house didn’t drop below 68 degrees, which is crazy for a winter night. Didn’t have the heat on or anything. Steon, stop being a bitch. I, I hear you dude. You never get sick. I know. That’s what I mean. I’m not sick, but like, I, I’m, I have symptoms. I’m, I’m playing sick. How’s that? I’m playing sick. My body’s playing sick. I dunno what’s going

Brian Friend (01:24):

On. When you wake up and you’re not feeling great, is there something that you do differently? Do you take extra vitamin C? Do you like to, uh, go walk in the grass? Anything like that?

Sevan Matossian (01:34):

I like to go to, uh, um, uh, my analytics for my podcast and see how fucking it’s just killing it. And I’m like, yeah, I feel better. I don’t ever wake up not feeling, I can’t remember ever waking up where like, I mean, I’m always still so excited to get up. No, may maybe gargle, uh, warm water, but I do that once every five years. I don’t know. Do you like waking up in the morning?

Brian Friend (01:59):

I mean, it’s better than not waking up.

Sevan Matossian (02:02):

Yeah. I love fucking waking up. I’m so excited. Every time I wake up I’m like, oh fuck, this is dope.

Brian Friend (02:08):

But I have, you know, very like, different, uh, days. You know, some days I like, I have to get up early and that’s different kind of feeling than when I can be a little bit more relaxed about it.

Sevan Matossian (02:22):

The worst part of my life, this is, this is probably, I shouldn’t share this, the worst part of my life. The o the, the part that’s consistently bad in my life is when I look at a clock and I know that I should be asleep, but I’m awake. That’s the only that, you know what I mean? So it’s like, I know I’m gonna be up at six and I look at the clock and it’s fucking 11:45 PM I get a little feeling of, wow, fuck, I fucked that up. That’s the worst shit that happens to me. God, I hope my, everything else in my life is great. It just gets better from there.

Brian Friend (02:59):

Yeah. I, I don’t like that feeling on the days that I have to, that I wake up at four 30. Yeah. I like, if I unintentionally wake up at like 2 45 to pee or something like that,

Sevan Matossian (03:10):


Brian Friend (03:12):

<laugh>. And then I’m like, oh man, I really hope I fall back asleep quickly. And if I don’t, then that, that is when I have that feeling.

Sevan Matossian (03:20):

Um, I don’t look at the clock if I get up because I, I, I, what’s even worse than that dude is, is if you have to get up at four 30 and you wake up and it’s like 4 0 5, now you’re stuck in some weird no man’s land.

Brian Friend (03:31):

Uh, 4 0 5 is, I’m like, ah, it’s close enough. I’m just, I would usually just get up. If it’s 2 45, I’m like, I’m not getting up an hour and 45 minutes early, but sometimes I can’t fall back asleep. And those end up being tough days.

Sevan Matossian (03:46):

I’m a napper too. I nap. Do you nap?

Brian Friend (03:50):

Uh, yeah. On the, uh, when I, there’s some days that I nap, usually a Wednesday and Thursday

Sevan Matossian (03:59):

The other day that they went to the, um, vindicate store and they couldn’t find, uh, CEO shirts. So, lemme tell you something. This is the cool thing about the Sev podcast. Just go over here to this website as Rx the Sev on podcast collection. Dude, all of this shit is so fucking nice. I live in this gear. I live in those sweatshirts. I live in those shirts. I wish there was a zip up. See, I in those, you don’t have any,

Brian Friend (04:33):

Uh, influence over there.

Sevan Matossian (04:35):

The thing is that they have, they they have to make tho these are made to order. If I make the zip ups, I guess they have to make ’em in advance. I don’t have that. That’s interesting. Dusty rose unisex. I don’t have that pink one either.

Brian Friend (04:48):

Maybe they were assuming some things about you. Whoever sends you this stuff.

Sevan Matossian (04:51):

Yeah, they shouldn’t. Look at this. Purple one is sick. This is the best shirt. If you don’t own this shirt, go get this shirt right now. Limited edition. Fuck off.

Brian Friend (05:04):

That’s the only one I have actually.

Sevan Matossian (05:06):

Yeah, that’s the best one. That’s not limited edition. Get as many as you want. That’s stupid that it says

Brian Friend (05:11):

That. I feel like you should be sending me more, more CEOs attire.

Sevan Matossian (05:15):

I would love to,

Brian Friend (05:16):

Yeah. Add Its into my contract.

Sevan Matossian (05:18):

What, what’s, what size are you <laugh>?

Brian Friend (05:21):

Uh, large.

Sevan Matossian (05:23):

Will you do I, will you send me your address right now? I’ll send a text right now. To the guy at life is Rx.

Brian Friend (05:29):

What are you gonna tell him? Brian wants one random piece of apparel every month on the 17th of the month.

Sevan Matossian (05:33):

That would be fu that’s a fucking great idea. Look at

Brian Friend (05:38):

Starting with the pink one.

Sevan Matossian (05:40):

Eli Elisa <laugh>. How do I have more c o shirts than Brian? I’d assume Sev wears an extra small. Geez, please.

Brian Friend (05:49):

Colin. Colin, we’re not talking about condoms.

Sevan Matossian (05:51):

Yeah. Oh man. Oh man.

Brian Friend (05:54):

That’s just a comment For Colin specifically.

Sevan Matossian (05:57):

Uh, Julian Ferd, I’m flying out to San Francisco and it’s, uh, downpour out out here. Keep up the hard work. Yeah. Crazy rain. It hasn’t rained like this here, like in 30 years. An a Moorhead an a Moorhead. See that <laugh>? That’s not that real person’s name, right?

Brian Friend (06:21):

No, it’s probably a guy.

Sevan Matossian (06:23):

Yeah, it’s, it sucks too, cuz the chicken, the picture is hot.

Brian Friend (06:27):

We all wish it was the chicken, the picture. But,

Sevan Matossian (06:30):

Uh, MI Michael Brink, um, in some

Brian Friend (06:33):

Michael Brink is the guy who does the graphics for my Instagram quite regularly from South Africa.

Sevan Matossian (06:38):

Oh. And that’s why he wears a banana hammock. That’s how they roll out there.

Brian Friend (06:42):

I have very specific standards. If so, anyone wants to work with me,

Sevan Matossian (06:46):

They have to wear banana hammocks.

Brian Friend (06:48):


Sevan Matossian (06:49):

Uh, good afternoon, Brian. And se well that makes sense why he says it’s, um, good afternoon. Uh, Brandon Waddell. Today’s a big day. It’s Pie Day and s and BJ Day.

Brian Friend (07:05):

I know what that stands for. I just, you

Sevan Matossian (07:07):

Know, you do.

Brian Friend (07:09):


Sevan Matossian (07:11):

Pie day. Uh, three 3.14 day March 14th.

Brian Friend (07:15):


Sevan Matossian (07:16):

Okay. Uh, s and,

Brian Friend (07:20):

Uh, project forward 12 hours.

Sevan Matossian (07:24):

Uh, quarterfinals.

Brian Friend (07:26):

Yeah. Savan and Brian and Jr.

Sevan Matossian (07:29):

Oh, damn. You’re good. You’re probably good at like, when you see customized license plates reading those too.

Brian Friend (07:37):

Yeah, pretty. I’m good at the, any game that revolves involves un scrambling letters.

Sevan Matossian (07:45):

How about this? I I, someone sent this to me last night and it’s, it’s weird. I thought of you ready? Here we go. Now let’s watch carefully. This ain’t the fucking rookie hour over here.

Brian Friend (08:02):

Yeah, I’ve seen this.

Sevan Matossian (08:03):

You have?

Brian Friend (08:04):

Yeah. Many times. It’s quick. I it’s pretty well known. Shot

Sevan Matossian (08:09):

A double skipper.

Brian Friend (08:16):

Yeah. I mean, throwing it off the water like that is difficult. The second skip that he has is that like, uh, it’s moving le the disc is moving left, but it skips back to the right. It’s like called an antis skip, depending on the slope of the ground. But that’s pretty good. Uh, obviously pretty impressive shot.

Sevan Matossian (08:34):

I wonder why he’d do that. You don’t think he has enough arm to make it over the water?

Brian Friend (08:38):

He’s trying to do it. He’s trying to skip it off the, off the water.

Sevan Matossian (08:42):

And so you think that’s like an ask disc that he’s willing to lose?

Brian Friend (08:47):


Sevan Matossian (08:50):

That’s a weak ass hug too.

Brian Friend (08:53):


Sevan Matossian (08:59):

There were no fat guys on the circuit, Brian.

Brian Friend (09:01):

Um, not really. There are, uh, you know, a couple that may look a little bit thicker than most of the guys, but yeah, most of ’em are pretty, pretty thin and wiry.

Sevan Matossian (09:11):

You think that’s a sport? You could be heavier? You could, you could be a little thick around around the waistline.

Brian Friend (09:17):

Yeah. There and there are, there are a couple, but, uh, like I said, not, not too many.

Sevan Matossian (09:23):

Um, Matt, Matt, uh, Morrison, I remember when Brian friend was the nerdy guy on talking Elite Fitness after hitching his cart to the Armenian Stallion. Seon, he’s become a total badass.

Brian Friend (09:32):

Actually, I was with Savan before. T e f even

Sevan Matossian (09:35):

Don’t ru don’t ruin the story. Do not ruin the story. Philip ass. Where my donation was Brian Elise, car rid. Um, I is that, uh, we’re, we’re on this thread and this morning someone on the thread said that the Talking Elite Fitness Instagram account was down and Tommy Marquez’s Instagram account was down. Can you confirm or deny, uh, either of those rumors?

Brian Friend (09:57):

I haven’t tried to, but if that’s the case, that’s unfortunate

Sevan Matossian (10:01):

Talking because they, because they didn’t. Oh. Oh, here it is. Oh no, that’s not good. Huh? Wow. Oh, that’s really weird. Uh, zero. Uh, look, it’s followed by Mike Halpin. Zero post, 28 followers. Zero following.

Brian Friend (10:25):

Well, obviously that’s not a, uh, that’s not their real account. I’m not, you know, I don’t know if it’s Oh,

Sevan Matossian (10:30):

Because, because of the hype, because of the underscores?

Brian Friend (10:33):

No, because their actual account has, uh, well, it’s not the account that you’re, I don’t know what you’re looking for here.

Sevan Matossian (10:40):

Just like their official account. Oh, you think that’s like a ma Well, obvious. I see what you’re saying. You’re saying it’s Obviously’s not their account cuz they have over 30,000 followers or something like that. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. But look it, but, but Mike Halpin follows them.

Brian Friend (10:53):

So that’s either a, an account that, that they just made or that someone else has just made.

Sevan Matossian (11:00):


Brian Friend (11:00):

Fucked. No posts not following anyone. So I wouldn’t, I mean, I don’t, I don’t know.

Sevan Matossian (11:06):

And if it’s, um, if, if both that account and Tommy’s account are down, that would be a, um, that would be a very weird coincidence.

Brian Friend (11:18):

Oh, I mean, I would assume that Tommy has, you know, access to both accounts. So it wouldn’t likely mean that someone has just, you know, gotten in control of his Instagram or something.

Sevan Matossian (11:29):

Yeah, I’m looking at his, his pages are gone. His shit’s gone too.

Brian Friend (11:39):

That sucks. I just,

Sevan Matossian (11:41):

Yeah, that does suck. I lost my Instagram account.

Brian Friend (11:49):

Yeah. I had some, uh, some experiences with a fraud recently as, as well in different realm. It just, it’s unfortunate that that’s what people are choosing to spend their time on.

Sevan Matossian (11:59):

Can you tell me about the fraud thing?

Brian Friend (12:03):

Uh, I mean, I don’t, I don’t really wanna say too much about it, but, um, yeah, I mean, what do you wanna know?

Sevan Matossian (12:10):

Someone fucking stole your identity.

Brian Friend (12:13):

Uh, I’m not sure about that.

Sevan Matossian (12:15):

They unraveled your shit and stole money from you.

Brian Friend (12:18):


Sevan Matossian (12:19):

Yeah. That fucking through, through banking.

Brian Friend (12:22):


Sevan Matossian (12:24):

Fuck. That sucks. Thanks for making my, uh, daily commute enjoyable. Allegra, do you know who that is?

Brian Friend (12:32):

No. But you’re welcome, Allegra.

Sevan Matossian (12:33):

Hey, that

Brian Friend (12:34):

Makes, just talking to you.

Sevan Matossian (12:35):

That makes me nervous seeing someone hug a cat that close to their face.

Brian Friend (12:40):

<laugh>. Oh, I think a lot of people do it. So we might wanna get used to it.

Sevan Matossian (12:45):

I had this friend that I went to Europe with Brian and the, and his mom had a scar on her face that was massive. It was crazy. And I go, what happened? She was hugging her cat and her fucking cat scratched her.

Brian Friend (12:58):

Yeah. That’s the risk. I guess

Sevan Matossian (13:00):

It’s like hugging a bag of knives.

Brian Friend (13:03):

<laugh>. I I mean it’s like hugging a bag of knives if you also have seizures,

Sevan Matossian (13:10):

Right? Like, it’s a good point. Bag of knives that have their own, uh, a mind of their own. Uh, here we go. Uh, fraud equals Brian got catfish by Trish Damn Holy seven.

Brian Friend (13:26):

The, the comment that Daniel Gardy made last night. Let’s stick with that one. We liked that one.

Sevan Matossian (13:31):

Yeah. What was that one? That one was good. Uh, uh, seven. My identity was stolen. I didn’t know about it until I tried to come back, um, from Mexico on a trip and got detained by customs. It was a mess. It happened over 10 years ago. Still dealing with it. Oh geez.

Brian Friend (13:48):

That’s why he uses that picture now. <laugh>,

Sevan Matossian (13:53):

You think that’s really him?

Brian Friend (13:54):


Sevan Matossian (13:57):

Uh, here we, Brian, was this fraud recent? Did you get it back?

Brian Friend (14:02):

Yes. Recent and, and no, to the second question.

Sevan Matossian (14:06):

God, I would be so fucking pissed. Not pissed.

Brian Friend (14:17):


Sevan Matossian (14:18):

Not your favorite subject. You’re, you’re, you’re just, you just water off your back. Who gets more donations, Froning or friend? That’s a great question. <laugh>. Hey, where were you born, Brian?

Brian Friend (14:30):

10 minutes drive from where I’m sitting.

Sevan Matossian (14:33):

Are you glad you were born?

Brian Friend (14:36):


Sevan Matossian (14:37):

You like you liking in life?

Brian Friend (14:40):

Yep. More often than not by a lot.

Sevan Matossian (14:43):

How old are you?

Brian Friend (14:44):


Sevan Matossian (14:46):

So you’re 35 years old and you’re born in Chicago. Do you have any kids?

Brian Friend (14:51):


Sevan Matossian (14:55):

Why did that take you a little while to answer?

Brian Friend (14:59):

I was reading comments.

Sevan Matossian (15:00):

Oh, fair. Fair. Um, and, um, your, uh, your, you, when you were, when did your parents, were your parents, did they stay married?

Brian Friend (15:11):

They got divorced when I was 14.

Sevan Matossian (15:14):

Oh shit. Did that fuck you up?

Brian Friend (15:17):

I would say yes.

Sevan Matossian (15:18):

Yeah. Would you prefer you think it’s better for parents to divorce when kids are like three?

Brian Friend (15:26):

I think it’s a tough question. I mean, I, what I often tell people in general is that it’s difficult to care for others if you don’t care for yourself. And so if, you know, if you find yourself in a situation where for whatever reason the rela the marriage has become toxic to the point of, uh, you know, making either partner, but especially if it’s both, both partners, um, struggling to take care of themselves, then they’re, I don’t think they’re really in a good position to, you know, take care of kids or to be, uh, good in their jobs or as members of society like that can just eat away at you. So I think that if, you know, you’ve making the commitment to be together for a lifetime, that’s usually worth exploring options to try to maintain that. But, you know, I’ve done a lot of self-reflecting on it and I think that both of my parents are a lot better off now than they would’ve been if they’d stayed together. Um, and that, you know, and I, and I don’t necessarily think they made a mistake getting married or having kids together in the first place, but they had just moved into different directions that I don’t think it would’ve worked. And I think if they’d have forced to stay together, it would’ve been more difficult than everyone in their lives.

Sevan Matossian (16:37):

Yeah. Um, and, and, and that’s a, that’s a probably like a super healthy, um, mature perspective, but, but at 14, that shit hurts, right? The, the, it’s kind of like you wake up and the fairy tale’s over.

Brian Friend (16:50):

Well, it’s just, we had, uh, when I say we, I mean me and my brother and sister, we had, we had no idea it was coming. Like, there was nothing about my parents’ life, lifestyle or interactions with each other that changed from our point of view. Uh, we, we didn’t see any conflict. We didn’t, you know. And so one day they just sat us down in the living room and told us that they were gonna get a divorce and that dad was moving out of the house and he left the house that day. And it was very, um, dad had a big impact on me. I like felt like there, I’m not gonna let him leave on his own. So I decided to go with him.

Sevan Matossian (17:24):

Oh shit. Oh wow. Did you cry a lot that day? Um,

Brian Friend (17:32):

I can’t remember. I remember just kinda leaving the room and going up to my own room. Um, and I think it was, I, it feels like I think back about it feels more apathetic. Like that day I may not have had any emotion cuz I was just like dealing with it. But I’m sure I did cry about it at some point.

Sevan Matossian (17:51):

Um, I I, I remember my mom working late at nights and feeling bad if I went to sleep and she was still up working like she was an attorney. So she’d have all her paperwork out on the dining room table. Was it like that, like you felt bad for your dad like that? Like, fuck homie needs it. Like he needs someone.

Brian Friend (18:06):

Yeah, just, I actually have an ex extremely vivid memory of it. He would always g he wore a lot of jeans back then and, uh, always this green winter jacket. And I just remember him walking out to his car in the f in the, you know, in front of the house. And, uh, I was like, yeah, I’m not, I’m just not gonna let him leave on his own.

Sevan Matossian (18:25):

Um, Garrett says, um, uh, marriage is overrated anyway, uh, coming from a married man. It’s interesting you say that. I, I, and I don’t, marriage is just one component, but after watching the Chris Rock, uh, standup comedy on Netflix, he seems like a sad and lonely man to me. I like him. But there’s this underlying, like his ma like, he’s divorced, right? He just got divorced and he just seems sad.

Brian Friend (18:53):

Uh, and, and he’s, you know, just being alone. He seems sad.

Sevan Matossian (18:56):

Yeah. It just seems, yeah, just like there’s, well, I have a loneliness, there’s a loneliness, uh, piece about him.

Brian Friend (19:03):

I mean, I think that one of the most valuable skills a human can have is to be comfortable being alone. And that doesn’t mean that you should always be alone. But I think that if, you know, it’s the same, it’s kind of of the same line of thinking of what I said earlier or at the start of this discussion, which is, you know, if you can’t take care of yourself, it’s difficult. I think it’s, it’s a more difficult to be of value to other people. And if you can’t be content on your own in silence, do nothing and you’re not comfortable with yourself, then I, you know, I think that you’re, you’re less equipped to be of service in a variety of different realms. And you know, when, when other people are involved,

Sevan Matossian (19:39):

Uh, take the, take this however you want, uh, uh, from Barry Macer, uh, I don’t know how you’re gonna process this, but, uh, Brian is a good dude. You don’t have to process that right now. You can process that later if you want. Um, you’re, you’re, I mean, dude, it must have meant the world to your dad that you went with them. I was just picturing myself and Haley getting a divorce and if one of my kids went with me, it would mean the world to me. And you have siblings?

Brian Friend (20:03):

Yeah, I’m the oldest of three. My

Sevan Matossian (20:05):

Sister. You are, you’re the oldest of three? Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Wait a second. Whenever you talk about your brother, that’s a younger brother.

Brian Friend (20:12):

Yeah. I actually think he, he’s gonna come on, uh, one of the disc golf shows with us sometime.

Sevan Matossian (20:16):

I thought for sure he was fucking an older brother.

Brian Friend (20:20):

Nope. He’s fi he’s almost five years younger than me.

Sevan Matossian (20:23):

Wow. Isn’t that crazy? I didn’t even know that about you. Oh, I wonder if that’s why you’re so, and you’re a good older brother, right? Like, you make time for him?

Brian Friend (20:33):

Uh, I, I would say I’m probably be a good older brother now. Uh, when I, when younger I don’t know so much, but I think I,

Sevan Matossian (20:41):

I’m disgusted when I call you and you’re like, my brother’s here, I can’t talk or I can’t do a podcast cuz of my brother here. I’m by it.

Brian Friend (20:49):

Uh, I think, yeah, I mean, we have a good relationship. I don’t, probably don’t get to see him as much as I would like to. He moved a little bit further away earlier this year. Um, but when I was younger he was, uh, you know, I made a lot of mistakes that I, you know, he had to look at and probably wasn’t that proud of or impressed by his older brother, but he didn’t make those mistakes. So sometimes I feel like I made them for him.

Sevan Matossian (21:16):

Mm. Uh, and and he, and then you have, did you say you have a sister too?

Brian Friend (21:20):

Yeah, she’s in between us.

Sevan Matossian (21:22):

And where does she live?

Brian Friend (21:24):

Uh, ne near Vancouver, Canada. But she’s kind of, uh, on the road right now.

Sevan Matossian (21:31):

Is she okay.

Brian Friend (21:31):

She’s actually in California.

Sevan Matossian (21:34):

Is she? Okay. Yeah. How how old is she?

Brian Friend (21:38):


Sevan Matossian (21:39):

So when you, oh, so she’s just barely younger than you?

Brian Friend (21:43):

My brother’s 31 so’s just two years between each of us.

Sevan Matossian (21:46):

Wow. So your parents were busy That, that’s not e that’s not easy to have a kid every two years.

Brian Friend (21:52):

I had a couple miscarriages as well. One before me and one before my brother.

Sevan Matossian (21:56):

How do you know that?

Brian Friend (21:58):

My mom told me.

Sevan Matossian (21:59):

Yeah, that’s the way it hap uh, one before you and one before your, that’s what it happened to. Uh, um, us two.

Brian Friend (22:05):

There’s a basic like no. Yes, yes. No. Yes.

Sevan Matossian (22:08):

Yeah. We had a no. Yes, no. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That’s how we did it too. So we got two at the same time. Thank God. Uh, uh, Brian shows are, uh, my favorite. Uh, hate you already. He brings so much insight into the sport for the fans. Okay, fine. Uh, you deserve every penny you can get for all your work. He doesn’t get any of that. I get all of that. 4 99. Thank you. Appreciate it though, <laugh>. Any questions? Uh, Heidi blocked my donation. Can she do that? Fun? If you’re a wrench, you can funnel the money to your own account. Uh, uh, your, did either of your siblings go with your dad?

Brian Friend (22:50):

No, they basically, you know, stuck to the split time plan that was, uh, outlined for us. And then, you know, once, uh, you know, once my sister got like her driver’s license, you know, it’s a little bit more free. She just goes where she wants. And she’s, I think she spent more time at my, at my mom’s house than my dad’s. But, um, she and her, my dad have always had like, very specific things that they had bond over and have maintained a good relationship because of that.

Sevan Matossian (23:18):

Uh, I want my money to go to Brian. I Okay, fine. Gimme more money and I’ll see what I can do. Gimme all your money and I’ll see what I can do. Uh, uh, no, not this question. Hold on. Ha. Uh, here we, uh, arby ha. Has HQ ever formally approached Brian about a career

Brian Friend (23:35):

They have not?

Sevan Matossian (23:39):

Uh, Brian, are you still, uh, working for Barand? I see a lot of your work on barbell Spin

Brian Friend (23:44):

<laugh>. No, I’m not working for Barb Bend. And I published one article on Barbell Spin. I will, I think a second one will be published today, but I’m not working specifically for Barbell Spin either.

Sevan Matossian (23:56):

So, uh, are this guy on with the motorcycle helmet HQ sucks. Um, there, uh, did, did any reason why you go with your dad, uh, because of your feelings towards your mom? Like, did you, did you, were you not close your mom? It seems like hard to leave your mom as a 14 year old boy. Like that would break. Like, that would’ve been hard for me.

Brian Friend (24:16):

I had a great, great relationship with my mom prior to that as well. And I think, um, I think if my mom had been leaving the house and walking out on her own, I probably would’ve gone with her too. Like, I just couldn’t, I just couldn’t stomach the fact of some of either one of ’em, I think leaving everything behind.

Sevan Matossian (24:33):

Right. That’s interesting. God, what a fucking emotional time. Did you switch schools when you left with your dad?

Brian Friend (24:41):

No, I was a freshman in high school and my mom still lived within the same school when they mo they, we both, you know, they moved to separate homes and my, uh, mom still lived within the school district that we were all a part of. My dad did not. He got remarried pretty quickly and moved to the next next town over. But we could used to use my mom’s address and also stay in the same school district.

Sevan Matossian (25:05):

Um, did you, at 14, did you have your virginity?

Brian Friend (25:10):


Sevan Matossian (25:11):

See, uh, uh, then I can, uh, uh, Michael Birchfield, uh, Brian was a man at 14. I, I’ve proven you wrong with one stroke of a question, just fucking fucked you up. Fucking just defeated you. But I appreciate you giving me an easy win like that. Now

Brian Friend (25:27):

We know how you define being a man.

Sevan Matossian (25:30):

It was. Yes, of course. Um, what, how old were you when you lost your virginity? Have you lost your virginity? Sorry, I didn’t mean to make a pre supposition.

Brian Friend (25:39):

How old was I? Yeah, 18.

Sevan Matossian (25:41):

Yeah, me too. Were you completely shocked? Like, wow, what’s wrong with this person? This person’s actually gonna get naked with me. <laugh>.

Brian Friend (25:49):

No, it was actually a pretty terrible experience.

Sevan Matossian (25:52):

It was,

Brian Friend (25:53):

Yeah. I was way too drunk and high and can, it was bad.

Sevan Matossian (25:58):

Was your girlfriend?

Brian Friend (26:00):

No, I had, uh, I had had a girlfriend that I was very serious about for, you know, the last, uh, two or three years. And, um, honestly, I had no intentions of ever being with anyone other than her. Uh, I went away to college. She was still in high school and I was still dating her and I, I was staying, uh, faithful to her. And, um, I did something very nice for her birthday in the middle of the year. And I think at that point she was feeling kind of guilty and she told me that she had been cheating on me, but not with men.

Sevan Matossian (26:34):

Oh, that’s fine. That’s not even cheating. <laugh>.

Brian Friend (26:37):

And, uh, um, so after that I got a little, uh, promiscuous for a few months.

Sevan Matossian (26:48):

No shit. Like, like pay, like, fuck you bitch. Like they take that.

Brian Friend (26:52):

I mean, I wasn’t, I wasn’t in a good place in general then, and that, that didn’t help.

Sevan Matossian (26:57):

Yeah. Interesting. You went, so when you were f um, 15, 16, 17, you were with a girl, but you guys didn’t have sex.

Brian Friend (27:04):


Sevan Matossian (27:05):

Yeah, that’s the way it was for me too. Why didn’t you have sex?

Brian Friend (27:09):

Well, it turns out she wasn’t really into the male genitalia, but, oh, from, from, for me, it didn’t matter. I actually told her that I didn’t care. I would still marry her and she could hook up with the girls if she wanted to. If we were only having sex to procreate would’ve been okay with me because I just liked her. I liked being around her. I liked doing things with her. And I could imagine coming home to her and having, you know, enjoyable evenings, doing anything, reading book, watching TV show, um, I still care about her and, um, you know, if I, if or when I ever see her, we always have a great time together.

Sevan Matossian (27:45):

When’s the last time you saw her?

Brian Friend (27:47):

Hmm, maybe, maybe two years ago.

Sevan Matossian (27:51):

That, that’s, that’s pretty good that you kept that relationship?

Brian Friend (27:54):

Um, yeah. I mean she’s, she is one of my best friends. Like if I, if I needed to call someone to give me the hard truth, like to tell me what I need to hear, but don’t want to hear, I would call her.

Sevan Matossian (28:05):

Wow. Is she married?

Brian Friend (28:09):

She is

Sevan Matossian (28:10):

Back. Is she she’s back with dudes? No. Oh, she’s married to a woman. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Does she have kids?

Brian Friend (28:17):

They have been trying. It’s not been going very well.

Brian Friend (28:20):


Sevan Matossian (28:22):

Did you think about when she was started seeing girls, did you ever think, well, fuck you and you would start dating boys like, I’m gonna be gay then <laugh>?

Brian Friend (28:29):

No, I actually suspected that about her before she, uh, was willing to admit it to herself, I think, but no.

Sevan Matossian (28:36):

What, what were the signs?

Brian Friend (28:40):

Uh, just like I said that, you know, um, sexually she just didn’t, it wasn’t like disinterested. It was like, I don’t know. I just, I just had a feeling

Sevan Matossian (28:52):

I felt like that a bunch about a bunch of girls, uh, that I dated <laugh>, that they, that they, that they might be gay. I would, but they had other qualities too, you know what I mean? Like, they didn’t wear makeup. They could beat me at Arm wrestling. They were division one soccer players, you know what I mean? And I’m just like, yep, Dyke. But I fucking love hanging out. Fuck. They were, they were dope. They’re fun. I was bummed. I mean, not bu not the ki I was more like, you kind of like, I would just tolerate it, but they were fun. Uh, was that the, the, um, oh, how old were you when you first started? Uh, you had your first drink of alcohol?

Brian Friend (29:32): Uh, I think like, I, I had probably family gatherings when I was young, you know, little bits here and there, but I didn’t really drink a lot. Um, throughout high school I was very focused on school and on sports. Um, I’m sure I had some, you know, a, a beer here or whatever at a couple parties when I was younger. But it was really after, it was like the middle of my senior year of high school that I started drinking a lot.

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