#836 – DGPT 2023 Waco Charity Event w/ Brian Friend | Episode 2

Sevan Matossian (00:00):

Not as much as I can cram into a day. Bam. We’re live. That was hardcore, hardcore. I didn’t even watch it all. I mean, I watched all the ones you sent me, but, um, I didn’t watch it all. And thank you for the concise links.

Brian Friend (00:17):

You’re welcome.

Sevan Matossian (00:19):

Um, I’m torn because I’m torn <laugh>. Cause I know, I, I can’t imagine anyone watching this show who doesn’t um, who doesn’t like me?

Brian Friend (00:39):


Sevan Matossian (00:40):

I can’t imagine anyone watching the show who doesn’t like, want to come over to my house and like, hang out and drink sparkling water and watch ufc maybe shoot some threes out in the front yard, you know, whatever. Go for a walk on the beach, do the shit that I like to do. I just can’t imagine. But there are people, I’m starting to find out who watched the show who don’t like me. But what’s crazy is that some of these people, um, who don’t like me, or maybe it’s important because a handful of you, well, on a regular basis, I’d say once a week I get a, a text or a DM saying, holy shit, thank you. And I go, what? And they go, I finally get it. So, no. Right. Cool. So, I don’t know. I don’t know. I don’t know what to say.

Brian Friend (01:28):

I don’t know. What are you, what are you torn about?

Sevan Matossian (01:30):

I don’t know what to say. I, I’m just like, pardon me. Wants to be like, Hey, if you don’t like me, go away. Don’t listen to the show. Like, just go away. I don’t want you, I don’t want, I don’t want anything to do with you. Don’t let me add turmoil to your life. I don’t wanna add anxiety to your life. Don’t come over here so I can feed your pain body as the great Eckhart Tole would say. But another part of me is like, Hey, I know why you’re here. You, you think that there, you know, that, you know that I’m right and there is a chance you two might wake up <laugh>. And I get it. So I’m just kind of, I just can’t, I just can’t figure it out. I just, I I don’t know what to, I don’t know what to, I’m, I’m torn

Brian Friend (02:07):

Your friend Barry likes you.

Sevan Matossian (02:09):

I like you. Let’s talk qualifier layouts. Oh, Barry. Quarter final

Brian Friend (02:14):


Sevan Matossian (02:14):

I can’t even keep up. So I am on the greatest. Caleb, tell him, tell him about, is it the greatest thread games thread in the history of CrossFit games? It

Caleb Beaver (02:23):

Is, it is not just quite possibly. It is the greatest games thread of all time. I,

Sevan Matossian (02:28):

I swear to God, I I I, I might even like my cal more. I’m even my like, double heart, Mike Halpin. I cannot believe how clever he is. Um, but, uh, tomorrow is gonna be crazy.

Brian Friend (02:44):

Yeah. Tomorrow night, uh, JR will be with us and we will break down what we know so far about quarter finals and preview what we expect to see in terms of both the workouts and the competition.

Sevan Matossian (02:57):

I like Frisbee golf more this week than last week. Uh, I mean, guess that’s healthy, right? Yeah. Yeah. I guess,

Brian Friend (03:08):

I guess, I mean, I think the first week you were going in pretty blind. Not really. Now you have a lot more. It’s a, it’s, uh, actually it’s Greg Glassner. We could just ask him about waves of adaptation.

Sevan Matossian (03:20):

You think I’m just adapting.

Brian Friend (03:21):

Last week was your first wave of adaptation, and this is your second week a adaptation. And uh, after two or three more of these, you’ll be in the flow.

Sevan Matossian (03:31):

You know, the guys that I, in college that I played, uh, when I would hang out with them because I played more ultimate Frisbee and just Frisbee on the beach. But the guys you played the Frisbee golf were kind of dicks. Not kind of, they were dicks. They just weren’t nice guys. They weren’t nice guys.

Brian Friend (03:47):

Yeah. I mean, I guess so. It may, I don’t know.

Sevan Matossian (03:48):

They were stuffy. They were stuffy. They weren’t fun. I know They didn’t get, they didn’t get laid either. They were uptight guys. They were uptight guys. Do you know what I mean? You know what kind and guy I’m talking about? Yeah.

Brian Friend (03:58):

Yeah. You’re, you’re thinking, you’re talking like a, about a surfers.

Sevan Matossian (04:02):

I mean, they’re, they’re like the hacky sack crew. Like they were like,

Brian Friend (04:05):

You would think that people who surf regularly are pretty laid back, chill. They like to be outdoors in the ocean. You’re welcoming. You can come. No, you go to the West coast and you try to go to a surfing spot and they don’t know you, they’re gonna fuck your shit

Sevan Matossian (04:18):

Up. Yeah, they’re dicks are Frisbee. Golf guys are like that too.

Brian Friend (04:21):

I’m saying maybe you might have a perception that they’re, they just mellow, chill, potheads, whatever, throw Frisbees in the woods guys. But maybe they also have a little stigma about them.

Caleb Beaver (04:32):

The only Frisbee golfer I’ve ever met was since incredibly nice. And I threw my Frisbee until ah, thank you. Into now this. Okay, the first before you, how about that was threw it a Frisbee. I threw my Frisbee into like three feet deep, like mud and water. And this guy just waited out there and grabbed it for me without questions. And then he let me keep it. And it was his, he was a nice

Sevan Matossian (04:53):

Guy. Wow. Wow. Well, these guys on the show seem really cool. Except, except for like the best guy in the world. Seems a little old and stuffy. Uh, McBeth,

Brian Friend (05:02):

Who is Paul McBeth?

Sevan Matossian (05:03):

Yes. Yeah. He got, he’s the only dude who got his shirt tucked in <laugh>. He’s rich though. He’s rich,

Brian Friend (05:09):

Right? A retirement, uh, home down in Florida where he moved to in the off season.

Sevan Matossian (05:14):

He’s rich.

Brian Friend (05:15):

And by the way, Scott, I didn’t bring him up Savan.

Sevan Matossian (05:18):

He, he’s Rich. Macbeth is rich.

Brian Friend (05:21):

Yeah. I mean he has, um, his, the, the company that sponsors him Disc Craft gave him a $10 million, 10 year, $10 million deal two years ago. I’m sure he is got other sponsors besides that. He’s obviously, he’s got the most tournament winnings in the history of Disc golf. Um, he has, you know, he has his own foundation that does some really cool stuff. They put courses in all over the world. They’ve put a few in so far. And, uh, yeah, I mean, he was traveling around on a yacht over the off season, I guess. I don’t know if he owns it or was renting it, but yeah, he’s got a lot of money, but I think he’s doing good things with it. And you know what, what I like about him is he still shows up to all the tournaments and he’s always in the mix.

Sevan Matossian (06:03):

Okay. Fair Uhoh. Uh,

Brian Friend (06:07):

Uh, there have been what

Sevan Matossian (06:10):

I’m, I’m concerned because there’s two sets of notes that I have Okay.

Brian Friend (06:16):

A torn between the two.

Sevan Matossian (06:17):

I just wanna make sure that they’re identical and that I sent identical notes to, um, Caleb.

Brian Friend (06:23):


Sevan Matossian (06:25):

Well let me set the scene up here and then Brian will really set it. Uh, we are on a, uh, uh, Frisbee, golf Frisbee, golf Frisbee, disc golf. What do you call this game that we’re covering?

Brian Friend (06:36):

Disc golf.

Sevan Matossian (06:37):

Disc golf. Uh, it’s a 32 week season with 16 main events. We covered the first event, uh, two weeks ago. And this is the second event. And the second event was in Waco, Texas. Um, some girl from my high school died there and some F B I raid. I remember Branch Navian. Branch Navian. Anyway, um, uh, and for some reason they’re going down there for Frisbee golf, uh, 80 degree weather, windy. It seems like all these events are windy.

Brian Friend (07:07):

Wind is a ma is a massive factor in the disc golf. Yes.

Sevan Matossian (07:11):

Uh, they were at the Bri, uh, not the bra. Brazil’s Park East, like the porn, but the Brazos Park East.

Brian Friend (07:18):

Yeah, like the river.

Sevan Matossian (07:19):

Oh, is that what that was? That’s the Brazos River that they’re playing along.

Brian Friend (07:22):

It is.

Sevan Matossian (07:23):

Okay. And, uh, can we see a map where Waco is, um, Mr. Beaver?

Brian Friend (07:29):

Yeah, while he is pulling that up, I can tell you it’s, it’s basically right between Dallas and Austin. Slightly closer to Austin, uh, on I 35.

Sevan Matossian (07:37):

You’ve been there?

Brian Friend (07:38):

I might be exactly between ’em, actually. Yeah, I’ve been to Waco many times.

Sevan Matossian (07:41):

What for?

Brian Friend (07:43):

Uh, while I used to live in Austin and also in Tyler, Texas. I spent like eight years living there. I played college soccer in Texas. I coached high school football in Texas. We actually played a state, I think a state quarter final high school game at Baylor Baylor Stadium, which is pretty cool.

Sevan Matossian (07:58):

I could see you being part of that Branch Davidian, like maybe that cult. Was it? Do you know about that in Waco,

Brian Friend (08:06):

The, a cult in Waco?

Sevan Matossian (08:08):

Yeah. You don’t know about that. It may have been before your time. Trish definitely knows.

Brian Friend (08:13):

I’m gonna pretend I don’t know about it, but even if I did know everything about it, I would still say no.

Sevan Matossian (08:18):

Okay, fair, fair, fair enough. Uh, big crowd, good weather. Um, second Event, um, some of the things I learned is that, uh, last week a guy named, um, Calvin, um, Hein mm-hmm. <affirmative> and his nickname, I didn’t know his nickname until this week. His, his nickname is Vinny, is that right?

Brian Friend (08:36):


Sevan Matossian (08:37):

They call him Vinny.

Brian Friend (08:39):

Yeah, I guess so. <laugh>,

Sevan Matossian (08:41):

But you don’t think so, or Yeah, yeah,

Brian Friend (08:42):

Yeah. His friends.

Sevan Matossian (08:43):

Yeah. Yeah, Vinny. And, uh, um, and there, there must be some total score running because

Brian Friend (08:49):

Points. So there’s, there’s, you can earn points throughout the entire year for the Disc Golf Pro Tour championships, which will be the last of the 16 pro tour events that we cover. And he’s probably the points leader since he won the first Pro tour event. You can get points from other events, but the pro tour obviously has the most points. So since he won week, week one or the first tournament, uh, in Vegas, he’s probably the points leader at this point.

Sevan Matossian (09:16):

There’s something kind of annoying about this sport I wanna show you. Can you go back to that picture in other sports? Um, you, you kind of stay true to the technique. So even if you’re not gonna throw a punch as hard as you can, you still go core to extremity, right? This fucking sport, these guys will get in these positions that are just so fucking weird and they’ll just start like at the halfway mark to their extremity. And that’s how they fucking control how hard they throw it sometimes, you know what I’m saying? And they have no issue coming off their midline and looking like a complete dork, you know what I mean? Like a thought like with their ass back and them like, like look it, he, you would think that like, that’s the end of a throw, but that may be just like at the end, but the beginning, he was already out like this. It’s a trip, right?

Brian Friend (10:03):

I don’t know about that last part, but there are a lot of different ways to, to throw the disc. And sometimes,

Sevan Matossian (10:08):

You know what I’m talking about though, the core to extremity part, right? They won’t e they won’t always start with their core. They’ll come out like, and just be like, all right, this is gonna be an arm hand throw or just a wrist flick, or, yeah.

Brian Friend (10:17):

So that’ll depend on many, many different variables, including sometimes their stance. Like you might not be able to run up to the disc at sometimes. Sometimes this is just a put. So

Sevan Matossian (10:27):

That’s still core to extremity though. At least that guy’s getting his hip open. But I mean, you will see some shit that, like, you don’t want to see like anyone you love in those positions <laugh>. It just, it’s, it’s not a good look, but these guys

Brian Friend (10:37):

Rock it shit. No, but it, and it happened to one of the guys that was contending for the win on the final round in the middle of the round where he had to stretch out from behind the tree and just do a little flick forehand. And I think he’s trained his back a little bit doing it.

Sevan Matossian (10:50):

Oh shit.

Brian Friend (10:51):

He was in the notes. He didn’t read the notes.

Sevan Matossian (10:53):

No. God, dude, I got 10 pages of notes myself. I’m Did they say that he may have strained his back or you investigated

Brian Friend (10:59):

That? Uh, no, you could just see it on the, uh, oh, you know, cause I was watching the live coverage, so it’s not about, uh, the, they just, you know, there’s a lot of dead air. Um, and then the ones that you watch, it’s just gonna move straight past that. So they probably wouldn’t, uh, mention it unless it ended up being a problem later on in which it did not seem to be

Sevan Matossian (11:16):

Are are you talking about, uh, Klein?

Brian Friend (11:19):

No, Adam Hammus.

Sevan Matossian (11:20):

Oh, wow. No shit. Okay. I’m looking at the notes now. Uh, and, and another thing you should know about this, uh, sport, and we will talk about this as we go on, this sport is like developing very, very, very quickly. And the commentators are really cool at kind of letting you know that because they’ll talk to you about how well people did the previous year or the previous year, or the previous year. And last week, one of the themes was is that there’s no bad, um, golfers anymore. And, uh, in the sport they’ve kind of weeded them out because the competition’s so stiff. But this, this week, one of the themes was that new records were being set everywhere in terms of how many birdies, uh, people were getting and whatnot.

Brian Friend (12:03):

The big, I think the, the biggest challenge with this tournament was the rec, the record that they did set, set was the most number of players within three shots of the lead heading into the final round. And there were at least a dozen, I think, uh, maybe 13 or 14 players there were still within three shots of the lead with one round to go. And basically what that means is, you know, almost always the winner comes o off the lead card. They’re in one of the top four positions heading into the final round occasionally, and it’s rare the winner will come off of the Chase card, which means they’re in the 6, 7, 8 or 5, 6, 7 or eight spot going into the last round. But in this tournament, there were guys on the third card, so they’re in ninth through 12th that were still extremely relevant contenders for the tournament when the la when the last round started. So it was really like a really a broader scope of potential winners heading into the final round. Them you would usually have, and if, and as the round went on, you could, you know, guys eliminated themselves just by not playing well enough. But even, uh, late into the round, there were still, you know, three or four guys that could legitimately win.

Sevan Matossian (13:03):

Uh, and, and to give you guys, uh, who don’t know, like I didn’t know a couple weeks ago, when Brian says cards, the way this works is dude, the dudes travel in packs. There’s four guys per pack, and after each round, it sounds like the packs get reassessed based on who the best players are. So card one is the four best players mean the players with the, uh, best score. And it sounds like they do the course three times,

Brian Friend (13:27):

The tournament’s always, they’re always a little bit different. But in this case, yes, they play the same course on three consecutive days.

Sevan Matossian (13:35):

And do they read, do they rework the cards every nine holes or just every No, every 18 holes.

Brian Friend (13:41):

Yeah. So r in the first round it’s, uh, the cor the either the dg, the Disc Golf Pro tour, or the course directors, or a combination of those determined the start order. And there’s a few cards where it’s like, um, a lot of times the featured card, which is not based on how they did in this tournament, but it’s based on previous tournament. So they’ll have like last year’s winner, the guy who won the previous tournament on tour and you know, maybe like a local guy and then like another stud or something on the le on the feature card. And they’ll have like two to four featured cards throughout the day. And the best two cards supposedly be the last two. Once everyone finishes playing on day one, everyone has a score. And so, uh, if you’re the one of worst guys, you, you gonna tee off Earlie on the date, like in golf,

Sevan Matossian (14:28):

Many cards, how many, how athlete on the,

Brian Friend (14:31):

Usually there’s a hundred hundred in men and like 30 to 60 in the women’s fields.

Sevan Matossian (14:38):

Okay. Do you know how we’re in this particular day?

Brian Friend (14:41):

I think there were 120 players in this one,

Sevan Matossian (14:43):

Waco, 120 men. Okay. And why aren’t we covering the women? Because we’re just not proficient enough at it yet.

Brian Friend (14:50):

I could talk the women, but I think we should start with the men. It’s okay. It’s, it’s more well established, even though there is, it is, it is similar to CrossFit in the respect that, you know, the women do get, uh, similar opportunities. They have all the same tournaments. I’m not sure actually about the prize money. It might be less, but, uh, I would un I think that’s understandable given the, you know, fact that they have 30 to 50% of the entries in the field and, um, they get coverage too. You can watch the women’s lead cards the same as you can the men’s.

Sevan Matossian (15:21):

Uh, so, so you can think of the car, the, the cards as, um, heats and, and so the, the coverage is only for the first heat and the second heat very similar to our sport. What’s our sport again? Oh, CrossFit. Right? Okay. Uh, I, uh, the way, the way I, the way I, um, catch up to what Brian’s knowledge is, he gave me about two and a half hours of footage to watch their condensed looks, um, by two companies. One of them is called, uh, Jez Pro and the other one is called Something Media

Brian Friend (15:55):


Sevan Matossian (15:57):

Gatekeeper Media. And so I watched those two YouTube channels, gatekeeper Media, and uh, Jez Pro. And that’s what, uh, where I will be pulling the clips from. Now, I apologize in advance to Caleb because I time code these clips and it’s gonna be, uh, it’s gonna be crazy. Alright, page one. I did twice as many notes as last week. I wonder if this show can be done in four hours? Uh, tw uh, uh, whole number one, um, Calvin Hein, the winner from last, uh, uh, week. Um, it sounds like throwing one of these disks perfectly straight is the hardest thing you can do. It’s like trying to hold a camera still,

Brian Friend (16:32):

Especially Yeah, especially if it’s windy

Sevan Matossian (16:34):

And uh, um, Hein loves a straight shot and it, uh, hole number one at the four minute mark, you will see this guy’s incredible arm. The guys want to give, the commentators want to give Calvin the throne as the best player. They’re just, you can just tell they’re not sure yet. You

Brian Friend (16:49):

Wanna send me those notes?

Sevan Matossian (16:51):

Oh, I didn’t <laugh>.

Brian Friend (16:53):

Yeah, so, um, this we’re start, we, we skipped round one for the coverage this week. Um, it was just random guys on the card and after the first round, uh, couple, you know, the, the top four players including of which was Kelvin Hein was in the top four position. I think he was in second place after the first round. And basically there are two players, Paul McBeth and Ricky Wesak that have been dominating the tour for most of the last decade. And there’s another young guy, Eagle McMahon, who is like a up and coming superstar. And those three guys have won so many tournaments in the last, I don’t know, four years or so, that they seem like they come to mind as being the best players. But lurking in the background is Calvin Hein. Uh, he is by, by the worldwide, by world, um, by disco golf’s rating system. He’s been in the top five in the world for the last several years. He just doesn’t win as often as those guys. So he’s always close, but never winning. So it’s more like, like a venner instead of a, a Maderas or a Fraser. And it’s like, even though we know he’s great, we know he has the potential until you step through the door and actually win when it matters the most, you’re always gonna be thought of second to the guys that find a way to win.

Sevan Matossian (18:05):

It seems like the commentators are ready to crown him. They’re just not sure. Uh, extra sloppy. Just got here. Did we determine if Brian calls it froth or disc golf, yet the world needs to know

Brian Friend (18:16):

Disc golf.

Sevan Matossian (18:17):

Disc golf. Okay, there you go. 4 99. Well, money well spent. <laugh>, uh, here we are, uh, Calvin Hein. It’s our first look at him on the show today. Uh, great. Uh, straight shot by him.

Brian Friend (18:28):

Yeah. And this is the first hole here, and it’s, it’s really demanding when the wind is up, you can choose this gap through the middle and there are some players that throw this. It’s a very difficult shot and he gets pretty lucky there that it checks up and doesn’t go out of bounds. A lot of the players also throw it high around the outside on a Spike Heizer. Um, but it can, there’s a pretty tight green up there, so it’s a short hole, but it’s a tough little tricky hole. And the problem with this course for the top players is, um, people can shoot so low on it, like they can have so many birdies and score so much under par that if you don’t pick up at least two of the first three holes with birdies, that you’re already in a deficit going into the woods where they have nine consecutive holes and, uh, like half of ’em are really difficult.

Sevan Matossian (19:10):

Uh, and and to what Brian said right there, you’re about to see some holes that look nothing like the holes we looked at <laugh>, uh, last week. I mean, it basically looks like they’re shooting in a maze. At one point. A commentator called it the woods, another commentator called it the Jungle. I think both are, uh, apropo. Okay, five 50, another, uh, great shot for Calvin, uh, downhill shot. Uh, some of the guys were saying that this is the hardest shot in the sport.

Brian Friend (19:39):

Well, it’s tough. First of all, Calvin’s like six four, he’s standing on that basket where he, you know, his foot is basically as at the height of the basket. So he’s like six, seven feet above where he needs a disc to go. And then the, you know, the, it’s a little bit more narrow when you’re coming in on that angle. Plus if you miss the basket, it’s probably gonna go out of bounds over that wall back there.

Sevan Matossian (19:59):

And, and look at, that’s the posture I’m talking about. Look, there’s no, there’s no core action going here, core to extremities, just like something in the middle to extremity. Can we see that one more time, Caleb?

Brian Friend (20:09):

It’s a short, uh, it’s a short putt. So he is probably just trying to limit, limit the number of moving parts. So he’s just gonna keep it to like the shoulder out to the wrist.

Sevan Matossian (20:18):

Yeah, crazy. Shoulder to wrist. It’s like a dance move. Uh, 7 55. Uh, they have these, uh, cement platforms that these, uh, homeboys, uh, tee off from. And I’m wondering, Brian, are these poured for two questions? Are these poured for, uh, Frisbee golf? And then look how far back he is. That’s a tough transition right there on your footing, isn’t it? To go from, uh, dirt and that is there hay and then like a three inch step up to concrete?

Brian Friend (20:52):

Yeah, so those are tea pads that are in place because the course is there permanently. The last last week we saw when there was on a, on a golf ball golf course. And so that’s a, a little bit more temporary. This course is always there. And if you go to Waco tomorrow, you could play this course. Now they might move the baskets around for the, and put ’em in harder positions for the pros, but they might, some of ’em might be exactly the same.

Sevan Matossian (21:12):

Why not a larger pad so that they can be on one. You know,

Brian Friend (21:15):

It’s a de it’s definitely a point of contention in the sport. There are other, uh, you’ll see tee pads on some courses, um, that are a lot more tight than this. Or there’s a, there may be a little bit elevated and if you want to take that exaggerated run up, then it’s even that much more difficult to do. Um, you know, this is, every, every disc golfer has a different like routine and some of the guys are really, really limited in their preparation for their t shots based on the size of the tee pads. Whereas others I think realized, well, you know, there are a lot of times where I won’t get this full run up and so I need to become proficient at doing it with just two or three steps as well.

Sevan Matossian (21:51):

Alright, uh, check, check this out, this transition with, uh, un underneath his feet. Just how, how much the ground changes.

Brian Friend (21:59):

This is Adam Hammus, by the way. He was a leader after round one. He had shot 1200 par um, he’s still at 1200 par cuz he took a par on the first hole in round two. And he will be in, in contention throughout the tournament. He’s, um, from Wisconsin and he’s a pretty, pretty good player when he gets in the mix. He’s competitive, but he, he’s not always in the mix like some of the top guys are, but he’s still a top 20 player in the world.

Sevan Matossian (22:21):

And he was prominent in the videos you sent me today.

Brian Friend (22:24):

Yeah, he was leading from round one. He was leading after round two. And then it would just be a matter if he could hold on for the, you know, the final round,

Sevan Matossian (22:33):

Uh, Waco, uh, at the Brazos Park East Hole four, the commentators, uh, were suggesting that this whole four is a defining hole for the course. Um, and this is, this is the hole that they, uh, they started using words like jungle

Brian Friend (22:48):

And it’s the first hole in, in the woods. So one through three are in the open <laugh>, and then four through 12 are in the woods. And then the last six holes are back in the open.

Sevan Matossian (22:57):

And, uh, they said even on the windiest days back in here, you can’t feel the wind or, or there’ll be pockets of wind that blow through that you won’t feel from the, uh, t

Brian Friend (23:06):

Yeah. So on this hole, the, the wind’s probably not gonna play. If you look on the far right of the screen there, you can see how close it is to the river, but it’s so thick. So most of the hole is not affected by the wind, but the, the green has that little wind tunnel on the back, which you can see in the picture there. And so sometimes the putts can still be affected by it.

Sevan Matossian (23:25):

Uh, a very, uh, poignant question by Joey Club. And, uh, why haven’t I turned this off yet? It’s a fucking incredible question. Um, uh, Caleb will be topless in a few minutes if you want to hang in there. Um, just you wait at the, it’s better. Uh, a Adam, uh, so can you play, can you play a little bit of this? I think that they might do a pullout shot here. Let’s see if we can get a couple seconds of this. Yeah, you can basically see, hey, do they clear the, um, oh, and here, and here’s Calvin. We’ll take a a look at Calvin here. Hein, do they clear these holes?

Brian Friend (23:55):

Yeah, I mean this, it’s a lot of work to keep this fairway clear, but also this course has been there for almost 30 years.

Sevan Matossian (24:02):

All right, <affirmative>,

Brian Friend (24:04):

So they, the, the, the fairways and the rough are how they want it to be, you know, so they want it to be, um, very open in the middle, but it’s tight. And if you miss it all, then you get punished by being in the, in the thick woods. And almost always you’ll just have to concede a stroke, punch out and continue playing from there. If you go in the woods,

Sevan Matossian (24:25):

Uh, something I noticed, uh, this week that I didn’t notice last week and it was there last week, but I’m starting to understand the game wars, these guys, it’s, it’s kind of like a race. These guys will play. There’s a game going on, kind of like their head fucking each other. They play it safe. They play it safe. And then when one guy thinks it’s time to take it risky, uh, to, to make, take a risk, he’ll take a risk. And you’ll see that as we get closer and closer to the end of the tournament. But there’s clearly shots that guys might be able to make, but they don’t take because they’re kind of staying in a pack together. Is, is that right, Brian?

Brian Friend (24:58):

Yeah. And, and everyone will come in with a different strategy. So Adam Hamas, for example, was very open that there were specific holes in the woods, four, nine and 12, that he was playing them for par every round no matter what. He just wasn’t, he wasn’t gonna take the risk of playing for a bird, trying to get a birdie on one of those and take a bogey or a double boge. And we’ll see the, you know, how that fares against some of his closest competitors in the last round.

Sevan Matossian (25:24):

Uh, so here you see, uh, Adam Hayes, uh, plays it safe on, uh, hole four at 1905. And hopefully this will give you an idea of what we’re talking about. We’re cruising. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> or cruising? Uh, that’s not, that’s uh, keep going. That’s Proctor James Proctor. And, uh, that doesn’t look like, is that, that’s not him. Oh, there it is. Okay.

Brian Friend (25:52):

So Hammonds actually did make a birdie on this hole and a hole four. Um, so he, you know, and which is good. It’s a very difficult hole to birdie.

Sevan Matossian (26:00):

Okay. That was a poor example. Hopefully I can get you a better one. It was probably his throw before that that I was referencing. Um, okay. Uh, 2020, uh, Adam whole five, uh, tough shot, uh, hits. Oh no. A great shot. This is a great shot. He hits the basket off the tee. I don’t think I saw this ever last week.

Brian Friend (26:20):

Um, I can’t remember if anyone had it had near Ace runs. There were a couple,

Sevan Matossian (26:26):

There were a couple. By the way, this isn’t Adam Hames, that’s Calvin Hein. Maybe I have my guys confused.

Brian Friend (26:32):

No, that’s Hein. But Hammus comes up immediately after him and he does hit this one off the bottom of the basket.

Sevan Matossian (26:37):

Did you remember that?

Brian Friend (26:39):

I know it’s gonna scoot up and hit the base of it, not hit the chains. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (26:45):

God, how do you remember that? Uh, yeah, that’s a, that’s an incredible shot and you can see that. And when I was asking Brian about this course, I said, Hey man, these are really short, um, holes and it seems like there could be a lot of hole in Wands. And Brian, didn’t you say something like this may be the last time they used this course on the pro circuit because it’s so easy.

Brian Friend (27:04):

I think that, well, what they were talking about this weekend is that next year at this tournament, there will be multiple courses as part of the tournament layout. This, like we said, this year they use this course for all three rounds. I think they’ll still use this course for at least one round next year, but not for all three.

Sevan Matossian (27:21):

Uh, 2150 a guy, we haven’t mentioned his name yet. Uh, Nico Lacota,

Brian Friend (27:26):

Nico La Castro,

Sevan Matossian (27:28):

Um, like our Dave Castro, but La Castro, he’s like the French person of Dave Lo

Brian Friend (27:33):

Lo Castro. Yeah,

Sevan Matossian (27:34):

LA Castro. <laugh>

Brian Friend (27:35):

Nico’s one of the most animated players on tour. He also has one of the, if not the lowest, um, P D G A number on tour, meaning he’s been a registered member of the PD g a for longer than almost any of these guys. He used to be one of the top players in the world, like 10 and 15 years ago. He’s still very good. Two notable things about him is his attitude sometimes is questionable. And last year during the European Open, he got a nine month suspension for, um, the way that he interacted with the rules official. Wow. And during the,

Sevan Matossian (28:05):

Like, it <laugh>, I like

Brian Friend (28:06):

It. And during the off season, he switched his disc company, which we talked a little bit about last week, that it can often be difficult to, you know, have as much precision with discs that you’ve only been using for a month, a few months when you, as opposed to something you’ve been using for a long time. But he also won this tournament in 2021. And so he was good enough to be on the lead card after the first round, which was, uh, I would say probably to most people’s surprise,

Sevan Matossian (28:31):

Hey, um, uh, he’s the Dennis Rodman, John McInroy of disc golf. Uh, someone, uh, he’s the, the villain of disc golf. Ima, I mean, we have, we ha we don’t have anyone who gets kicked out except for doing drugs. This guy got kicked out for attitude.

Brian Friend (28:46):

Yeah, <laugh>.

Sevan Matossian (28:47):

Yeah. What did he do, Brian? What did he do? Is there a video of it?

Brian Friend (28:50):

Yeah, there’s video of it. I could, I could try to find it for you. I, um, but yeah, he just, he was disputing a call. I think. Oh, the other thing about Nico o Castro is he takes a long time over his shots. And this is actually a point of contention in the sport right now. You’re supposed to have 30 seconds from when you approach your disc to when you throw your shot. And he frequently exceeds that time limit. And it’s, it’s up to your card mates to call that. But I feel like the tournament should, you know, u usually, but I feel like the tournament should also be able to enforce that. And I think that at this European open, he’d already gotten some warnings and then the rules official said he took too long on a shot and gave him a penalty for it. And he did not Oh, did not like that. So he got right up in the guy’s face. Yeah. This, this is it.

Sevan Matossian (29:36):

Wow. Wow. Yes, yes, yes. Take notes. Fucking CrossFitters. Bunch of pussies. Here we go. Hey, this is when shit matters. Look at, he gets called for a time before

Speaker 4 (29:50):

He drown. So we have a

Sevan Matossian (29:53):

What? Oh shit. Why? Oh shit. Pauses. Oh shit. He’s.

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