#830 – Live Call In Show | Gary Roberts

Sevan Matossian (00:01):

Bam. We’re live. Oh, I get credit for being on time. Who else? Close. Very close. Gary. What’s up?

Gary Roberts (00:10):

Forgive me. I have a, some running loan. I just ran a mile.

Sevan Matossian (00:15):

Dude, you’re a beast. Serious.

Gary Roberts (00:20):

Just ran a mile.

Gary Roberts (00:24):

Can you

Sevan Matossian (00:25):

I hear that echo.

Gary Roberts (00:27):

Yeah. Gimme one second.

Sevan Matossian (00:29):

He ran a mile. Is that to get your game on so you’d be sharp for the show?

Gary Roberts (00:35):

I needed to, uh, I come baring gifts. Seven Mateo Sing. Hi.

Sevan Matossian (00:42):

What time is it? Where are you?

Gary Roberts (00:44):

A boatload of gifts. 7:00 AM

Sevan Matossian (00:47):

Oh, because you’re in Portland.

Gary Roberts (00:49):

Yes, sir.

Sevan Matossian (00:50):

God, that is so crazy. You’re in Portland. That is crazy.

Gary Roberts (00:55):

Uh, we just celebrated my father’s birthday yesterday. He’s no longer with us, but, uh, we went out to breakfast to honor daddy. O

Sevan Matossian (01:05):

How long has it been?

Gary Roberts (01:07):

Uh, he died, uh, a year ago. Thanksgiving. So it’s been 15 months.

Sevan Matossian (01:15):

Did you cry? Yes. Today. Yesterday.

Gary Roberts (01:18):

No, no. We just, it was nice to see family.

Sevan Matossian (01:23):


Gary Roberts (01:24):

Think about him.

Sevan Matossian (01:25):


Gary Roberts (01:26):

[inaudible] What’s up, bro?

Sevan Matossian (01:30):

God, life’s a trip. People die.

Gary Roberts (01:32):


Sevan Matossian (01:32):

Know. It’s so weird.

Gary Roberts (01:34):

So it’s

Sevan Matossian (01:37):

Yesterday I had a guy on that kills people.

Gary Roberts (01:42):

Dude, I was trying to look up the last show to review mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And I’m scanning through your shows. I’m like, this dude is online a lot.

Sevan Matossian (01:54):

<laugh> every morning. 7:00 AM every morning. 7:00 AM

Gary Roberts (01:58):

I can’t believe how much you’re live. Thank you.

Sevan Matossian (02:02):

Congrats. Thank you. Yeah, I’m pretty, I’m pretty excited about it.

Gary Roberts (02:05):

How many hours are you logging?

Sevan Matossian (02:07):

Uh, I try to do anywhere from one and a half to three hours every single day. Basically, the, the show’s scheduled to go from seven to eight 30 every day.

Gary Roberts (02:16):


Sevan Matossian (02:17):

But sometimes there’s two shows. If the CrossFit open is going or if we can’t do it, you know, like a guest is good and they stay for three hours. Or just, I, I guess good’s not even the right word. Like yesterday, the show took, yesterday, the guest showed up 15 minutes late cuz he was having technical difficulties. Then it took us probably like 30 minutes to warm up. And then so the show went like, you know, two and a half, three hours.

Gary Roberts (02:39):

How, uh, how does the guest kill people?

Sevan Matossian (02:43):

He was, he’s the, with the gun. He, he was a fucking, uh, sniper for, uh, Canadian Special Forces for the same group that Devin Lores in was in. Yeah. This, yeah. And this dude refused the vaccine and got kicked out. Dude, 16 fucking years killing people for the fucking Canadian government. Dude, he killed a guy from 3,500 meters away. By the way, I told some friends that, by the way, who are like some pretty, uh, gnarly shooters and they, they, they kind of have to see it to believe it. They said 3,500 meters is just ridiculous.

Gary Roberts (03:16):

Like, bad guys. And I hope Right?

Sevan Matossian (03:18):

<laugh> Yeah. Yeah. Bad guys. Basically, I asked this dude Gary, I said, Hey, how do you justify killing people? How do you sleep at night? And he said, Hey, um, you know, in my mind, I’m, I’m paraphrasing, but each one of these guys has raped 200 women.

Gary Roberts (03:32):

Oof. Yeah.

Sevan Matossian (03:33):

Yeah. So, so, and if they haven’t raped 200 women, basically what I’ve done is I’ve, if they’ve only raped 12 women, then I’ve saved a hundred and, uh, 88 women from getting raped isis, all ISIS dudes.

Gary Roberts (03:44):

Um, I could, I I could get behind. I mean,

Sevan Matossian (03:48):


Gary Roberts (03:49):

Can you get behind that? Uh, do you mind, do you read,

Sevan Matossian (03:52):

What do, what do you think about, what do you think about, doc, this is gonna be really harsh. What do you think about Dr. Fauci gain a function research that came out yesterday that he knows he did it and millions of people died at his hands. What do, what do we do with him?

Gary Roberts (04:04):

Uh, sev on a podcast. Uh, sev on.

Sevan Matossian (04:07):

Yes. Hi.

Gary Roberts (04:07):

You didn’t listen to me the last time I was on here.

Sevan Matossian (04:10):

No. What, what? No, I think I did. Tell me. I don’t,

Gary Roberts (04:14):

I I quit politics.

Sevan Matossian (04:15):

Oh, you did? Yeah. This is, but I found out this isn’t politics.

Gary Roberts (04:21):

I know, but I gotta be honest. Living life is, uh, like a is a hard work.

Sevan Matossian (04:29):

<laugh>, tell me. Gotcha. Right,

Gary Roberts (04:30):

Right. So to follow fauci and what’s going on with all the business, like, I’m just trying to keep diapers clean, bro,

Sevan Matossian (04:39):

You’re a good dude. I like that. I’m, I, I’ve, I have no issue with that. Hey. Amen. You don’t worry about a thing I’m gonna make, I’m gonna handle making the world a better place. Erasing, pedophilia and scumbags who force our kids to take drugs. And then you just raised a fucking good kid. I appreciate that.

Gary Roberts (04:55):

That’s good. Thank you. And try to get to CrossFit in the dead of winter and pour

Sevan Matossian (05:00):

Oregon. Yeah. Tell me, you ran, did you fall today when you ran? Where do you run? A mile. I mean, it’s icy there, right? I mean, the whole west coast is getting smashed by the way. It’s been raining at my house for like a month.

Gary Roberts (05:11):

Yeah, yeah. There’s a lot of that. Um, I, to keep the numbers accurate, I, uh, went down to my gym and, uh, there’s a, a path. And basically the last time I was on your show, December 9th, I can’t believe how long it’s been, uh, I ran a six, six miles and 32 minutes or six minute six, one mile, six minutes and 32 seconds.

Sevan Matossian (05:39):

Now listen to that. People, did you hear that Gary Roberts ran a mile and six minutes and 32 seconds? That is nuts.

Gary Roberts (05:45):

Yeah. So I needed, I’ve, a lot has happened since the last time I’ve been on your show, so I needed to know where I stood. Yeah. And, uh, so I went out and, uh, ran a mile

Sevan Matossian (05:58):

With the pressure, knowing that I would ask you how fast you ran it.

Gary Roberts (06:01):

Of course.

Sevan Matossian (06:02):

Course. And I mean, let me guess. Uh, 8 0 3,

Gary Roberts (06:07):

Uh, seven 15.

Sevan Matossian (06:08):

Wow. Dude. Great job.

Gary Roberts (06:11):

11% drop off.

Sevan Matossian (06:13):

Uh, uh, and, and last time you ran it, so, but you ran it at 6:00 AM

Gary Roberts (06:17):

Right? It’s freezing. It’s freezing cold.

Sevan Matossian (06:20):

And what were the conditions? You ran it last time.

Gary Roberts (06:23):

Uh, evening. I’m probably better. I’m more normalized as a human. I do not get up for 6:00 AM let alone, or 7:00 AM let alone 6:00 AM for anybody. But sev matossian.

Sevan Matossian (06:39):

And today you got up and ran and, and you’re, and you’re talking let, uh, Gary, uh, Austin Hartman, Gary, I showed my dad killing the fat man. He’s not totally bought, bought yet. Bought in yet. But I’ve got him moving a little more. Yeah. And I just wanna tell you, you’re awesome. And, uh, I really appreciate you and love you. And if you’re ever in, um, wherever I live, you can come visit. Well, thank you, Austin.

Gary Roberts (07:01):

Thanks Austin. So savi, I, I said I brought you a boatload of gifts. Call them. Tell me excuses.

Sevan Matossian (07:12):

Oh, good. A lot. <laugh>. Tell me,

Gary Roberts (07:14):

Uh, do you want me to get into it?

Sevan Matossian (07:16):

Yeah. Yeah. First of all, first of all, um, uh, many months ago, uh, Gary Roberts took some, got some blood work done. Uh, he began a journey of t r t. Uh, you should watch the other episodes. We should make a playlist just with them. He’s had some ups and downs with it. Uh, some struggles with the needles that were fixed. Some, uh, uh, struggles at home regarding whether, uh, his, his loved ones want him, uh, uh, partaking in, um, a T r t replacement. And then, um, and so here we, here we are. The Gary Roberts journey.

Gary Roberts (07:51):

I have a question.

Sevan Matossian (07:53):


Gary Roberts (07:53):

When you called me Yeah. A week or so ago, and I heard you live for like a, just a half a second before you said hi to me, you said, I quote, I think you said, if this doesn’t work out we’ll find another fat man <laugh>. Is that true? Was that intentional?

Sevan Matossian (08:18):

Um, do, do you have the date? I could go, I don’t remember saying that at all.

Gary Roberts (08:22):

I heard it was like you were having a conversation with somebody and I caught the very tippy, tippy end of it. And I was wondering if that was slightly,

Sevan Matossian (08:30):

Sometimes the tippy end is just enough women have gotten pregnant just catching the tippy end. <laugh>. Hey, I don’t, I don’t remember that at all. Uh, it, it sounds a little out of context, but also I could hear myself like, like cracking a joke like that. Yeah. But we’re definitely not finding another fat man. We’re too invested in.

Gary Roberts (08:48):

I took it as, Hey bro, what? Here’s the deal.

Sevan Matossian (08:53):

Oh, don’t try to leverage. Are you trying to pick a fight with me?

Gary Roberts (08:57):

No, no, no. I’m just saying I have now three months before you originally stated we have let’s do like a year. Yeah. And I have now a three month window. Uhhuh <affirmative> to the finish line. And that’s where, no

Sevan Matossian (09:10):

Shit, you’ve been taking t r t now for nine months. It’s been nine months.

Gary Roberts (09:14):

No, I didn’t start it right away. I started CrossFit for like six weeks, six to eight weeks before I took the t r t. Okay, so you don’t remember that.

Sevan Matossian (09:24):

Look at, look at, look at, no, I love Gary. Stop being a bitch. Chevy, find. No, I love Gary. Gary’s the man. I’m not finding another fat man. What are you talking about? I don’t even care if Gary gets off the t r t. We’re gonna come on and check with Gary. We’re never letting Gary get away to We’re gonna walk. Gary, we’re Gary to his deathbed.

Gary Roberts (09:39):

Yeah. Here’s the thing, here’s the thing. I, I was, I was trying to go over. I recapped Thank you you YouTube for adding transcripts because I just skimmed the transcripts from previous episode to recap what, what was discussed. Yeah. And I, interestingly, that was like if we, if I started cutting some episodes, I was like halfway point, halfway season, uh, a pinnacle. Six miles and six minute mile. And anyways, I, uh, within a couple weeks my life turned to shit. And uh,

Sevan Matossian (10:16):

Are you still married?

Gary Roberts (10:19):

Lemme tell you, I mate. Holy lemme

Sevan Matossian (10:23):

Tell you. Holy shit. It’s got Aren’t you in the garage? You’re not in the garage right now?

Gary Roberts (10:27):

I’m in the garage. Okay. I’ve carved out a little space because I’m too loud for the family, but,

Sevan Matossian (10:31):

Okay. Okay. So you’re still married cuz you’re in the garage.

Gary Roberts (10:34):

Yeah, I am. But let me tell you, it got close. You remember when I first met you, I mean, not I first met you, but we were filming season two and I first met my wife and there was, um, like her deal breaker was Trump.

Sevan Matossian (10:52):

Oh yeah, yeah. You had to, you wore the I love Hillary’s shirt to um, yeah.

Gary Roberts (10:56):

I, I had to basically, I should have, here’s the thing, I, we have born two beautiful children, miracle babies like this. Babies aren’t epically amazing. And, uh, a few people in the beginning days said, Hey, you’re moving real fast, Gary, with this, with this girl Caroline, even I believe you And Tyson thought, whoa, this, this guy’s moving a little fast. Maybe you should get to know each other a little better before you get married. I think. I think. And we still would’ve ended up together.

Sevan Matossian (11:42):

That being said, you had a very intimate connection with her. I was convinced you, I I was convinced you loved her. I believed you.

Gary Roberts (11:48):

Yeah. Well there’s, there was some, like with Trump, I was like, Hey, I, if you hate Trump, it’s fine. I disavowed, I, I don’t care. I don’t care about politics enough to like pick this battle. But if I did, that would’ve been a battle not able to be won. It would’ve been a like Right. The relationship wouldn’t lasted.

Sevan Matossian (12:15):

Well, ironically, I hated Trump then too. But now there’s nothing that Trump can do that would upset me more than, uh, pedophilia. I’m against pedophilia. And so you can’t be a Democrat anymore. It’s not, it’s not, it’s not like, um, I know I’m, I’m off subject here, but it’s, it’s not even debatable anymore. But, but, but we, but I digress. Let’s go back.

Gary Roberts (12:34):

Well, I, I wanna be careful in how I speak because in this situation there’s no, there’s no bad guy. It’s just opinions differ. And,

Sevan Matossian (12:53):

Uh, wait, wait a second. Just real quick. In, in my state, they, they want my kids to take drugs to go to school. And I have the healthiest kids you’ve ever known. Oh my God. And so tho those are bad guys. My kids can’t go to school cuz my kids won’t take mandatory needle injected drugs. And my kids say, please thank you. Make eye contact. Take their plates to the table, hold doors open for old people, can do addition, smile, help other kids, uh, add value wherever they go. So there are, I, I I I, I just, I’m, I’m not, I’m not gonna, I don’t wanna fight with you, but there are some bad guys, like in the state of California, I, uh, that we have, uh, oh, there are some bad guys. Oh, okay. Okay. Sorry, sorry, sorry. I’s okay. Sorry.

Gary Roberts (13:33):

Listen. Just for now that you said that. Yeah. Just to let you know, when my daughter, uh, was, you know, kindergarten Yeah. Back then, Anisa previous wife in season one and two, she was against, she was never vaccinated and she was like against it. And she’s like, I don’t want my kid to have vaccinations. And I really, I was like, okay.

Sevan Matossian (13:59):

Did you think she was crazy? My wife didn’t want my kids to get vaccinated either. I thought she was batshit crazy.

Gary Roberts (14:04):

I didn’t even, I didn’t back then. I just,

Sevan Matossian (14:08):

I just, you’re open-minded guy. You went back. Yeah,

Gary Roberts (14:09):

I just, I just went with it. Well anyways, we, we just went to the school and signed a paper that says you didn’t get vaccinated and they Yeah. They, they said nothing. Yeah. They were fine. Yeah. Now I guess,

Sevan Matossian (14:20):

Um, yeah, you can’t do that. World is

Gary Roberts (14:21):

Different. But anyways, let’s get on to something that matters.

Sevan Matossian (14:25):

Yes, yes. So, so you and your wife are having some issues and you’re beating around the bush telling me

Gary Roberts (14:29):

I’m just, I just don’t want, I don’t wanna paint her as like the bad guy. But basically,

Sevan Matossian (14:34):

Are you still together?

Gary Roberts (14:36):


Sevan Matossian (14:37):

Are you married?

Gary Roberts (14:38):

What? The savon what? Let me tell a story,

Sevan Matossian (14:42):

Bro. Okay. Tell a story.

Gary Roberts (14:43):

Lemme tell a story. A lot of things happened in December, the show we went on December 9th, that happened to be the last injection of trt testosterone that I took. My, my shipment had run out

Sevan Matossian (15:01):


Gary Roberts (15:03):

On, uh, December 15th. I was effing around in the gym and I hurt, I hurt myself doing a muscle up. I hurt my rib. I was doing banded muscle ups, and I was popping up to the top of the bar and my hand slipped off and I landed on my rib. And then the next day I went in and did burpees and even worsened it. And then that put me out for like three weeks. So I didn’t do CrossFit.

Sevan Matossian (15:33):

Do you think you broke a rib by the way? Slipping and

Gary Roberts (15:37):

Hitting. I was really nervous. I watched the video and it doesn’t look, it doesn’t look.

Sevan Matossian (15:44):

Okay. Do you think there are two ribs crossed by any chance? Did you go to?

Gary Roberts (15:48):

I don’t know. It just hurt like a motherfucker. And

Sevan Matossian (15:50):

I was like, yeah, rib hurt rib and you don’t swear. So that’s pretty, it must’ve really hurt.

Gary Roberts (15:53):

And I was like, I was like, fuck. I was just, and my peak was sev on. I was just crushing it with the six minute, and here I’m jacked up and I’m out of T r t. Okay. So put that in, in the cap out of t r t injury at the exact same time, my wife and I, we are really hitting a wall with an issue. And uh, I was like, huh, I’m sticking to my guns. I’m sticking to my guns. I’m gonna win this one. And she’s like, no, I’m gonna win this one. So we were really,

Sevan Matossian (16:32):

Was it around boning?

Gary Roberts (16:33):

Uh, first it was children, then it was boning.

Sevan Matossian (16:41):


Gary Roberts (16:42):

So, God, are we allowed to talk? I’ll do a callback to season one. Are we allowed to talk about sex?

Sevan Matossian (16:48):

Yeah, of course. Okay.

Gary Roberts (16:54):

So I’m a stay-at-home father. I do some side gigs on the side to make a little cash, but my wife is the primary. She’s the primary. And during this time that I took on this CrossFit project, she was taking on new job, a leadership role, a lot more stress,


And she just had a baby. Our daughter just is a year old. So this time last year, she just had a baby. And, uh, when we met, we connected over the fact that she hadn’t found the right guy. And I had been in, uh, a marriage for 20 something years where with someone who I didn’t, I didn’t really feel like there was a connection sexually. I was connected to her sexually. But I spent those two decades being, you know, a lot of getting weight in the first season over my life was, you know, due to rejection, you know, you, you’re not being wanted by your partner. You, uh, gain some weight, you eat more, and you, you know, you fill the void all that business. Well anyway, so when I met, you

Sevan Matossian (18:06):

Want to eat at the y they won’t let you to eat at McDonald’s instead. Right. Okay. Right.

Gary Roberts (18:11):

So I spent the, the early part of my relationship with Caroline basically saying sh she basically said, I said, what are your deal breakers? She said, I need somebody open to be, uh, children. And she said to me, what are your deal breakers? And I said, well, I cannot relive, I absolutely cannot relive these particular things regarding my sex life with I think more specifically, I said I needed somebody on the same level as me sexually.

Sevan Matossian (18:51):


Gary Roberts (18:52):

Because I, I just can’t, I can’t spend 20 years complaining about sex. Like Right, right. You know, if you are always the initiator and you’re always like asking and sometimes maybe perhaps begging. Yeah. You know, it’s like, hey, balance it out a little bit. I said, I cannot live under those circumstances.

Sevan Matossian (19:14):

A begging video would go viral, by the way, <laugh>. Yeah. You wouldn’t like the comments, but it’d still go viral. Yeah. Maybe it’s worth, uh, explaining.

Gary Roberts (19:21):

So in this early part of our days, obviously she’s telling me about her. I’m telling her about me. And as a single girl, you know, she’s like, of course I feel you. I feel you. I’d never be, you know, I to just succinctly tie it together, don’t worry about that. I’ll be a different wife sort of thing. And then now here, five years into our relationship, it’s like, oh shit. It’s not just the people, it’s just, it’s just marriage shit just gets normalized and life and children and jobs. And I’m like, oh. So I start bringing up like, hey, remember we keep something important? And she’s like, yeah, but shit changes in five years, you know, we have babies and new job and stress and mortgage. And so we really started to go to battle on, uh, on this issue. And so we get a therapist involved and right around that time, I don’t think I talked about this with you on any of the shows, but right around that time, the therapist, they’re really big on consent. Like huge. Like, they’re like, they want to, consent is so important. I’m like, obviously consent is important.

Sevan Matossian (20:46):

What do you mean? Like, don’t put your penis in their mouth if they don’t want it. What, what? How could there not be consent? Like, like they, they think they’re gonna rape your wife. I tell

Gary Roberts (20:55):


Sevan Matossian (20:55):

Tell you, let’s, what does consent mean?

Gary Roberts (20:57):

Lemme tell you Chevon, when I go to the doctor with my children and I feel at all these questionnaires. Yeah. I feel like they’re entirely set up to try to take away your children. Like

Sevan Matossian (21:08):

Never, my kids have never been to the doctor, so I have no idea what you’re talking about.

Gary Roberts (21:11):

Like, do you, like they literally ask you, do you drive around without a seatbelt? It’s like, oh, mean, if I did not seatbelt my children, am I gonna tell you about it?

Sevan Matossian (21:21):

It’s only when your mom’s blowing me. That’s what I would tell the doctor. Cuz the seat, your mom doesn’t like the seatbelt in her way

Gary Roberts (21:27):


Sevan Matossian (21:27):

God. Oh, that’s crazy. That,

Gary Roberts (21:29):

Anyways, I’m sitting, I’m sitting around with the therapist and then they’re like, you know, do you feel safe in your relationship?

Sevan Matossian (21:35):

Oh my God.

Gary Roberts (21:37):

Oh my god, do you have my god?

Sevan Matossian (21:38):

They said, oh my god.

Gary Roberts (21:39):

They said that. They said, if you do not have in your marriage sk all your people out there watching, if you do not have in your marriage enthusiastic consent, you don’t have consent.

Sevan Matossian (22:01):

So, uh, uh, if you have sex with your wife and she never opens her eyes, that’s not enthusiastic. God damn. Wow. This is a crazy world we live in. So

Gary Roberts (22:11):

I, we finished this therapy session and I was like,

Sevan Matossian (22:13):

Hey, they’re gonna convince your wife they’re gonna convi. That’s like, um, convincing someone. Um, I, I was just reading this thing about Paris Hilton, about how she had sex with her boyfriend. And there’s these, unfortunately, it’s these right wing fucking nut jobs are saying that basically she was fucking manipulated by the devil. But when I read the story, she wasn’t manipulated by the devil. She was 19 years old, dating a 31 year old, and he asked her if he could film her fucking her End of story. Yeah. And she said yes, and he sold the tape against her. But God, that’s incredible. Hey, you nailed it. They are trying to take your kids from you. There’s no if, ands or butts about it. Why? Well, they’re trying to build the case against you and they’re trying to end your marriage. That therapist is trying to end your marriage. I’m, they’re not trying to help it. I’m

Gary Roberts (22:58):

Like, dude, the way, what you just described, I’m like, we, I cannot, I had enthusiastic consent first six months of my marriage, but like for the last two years, enthusiastic consent. I said, you’re telling me if I don’t have enthusiasm that I, that I don’t have consent? And so he’s like, yeah, you gotta wait. You gotta wait till you get enthusiastic consent. I said, I I just don’t foresee any marriage where you’re always the initiator and the other person is like tired and stressed and job and kissed. Look

Sevan Matossian (23:34):

At me. Am I ever gonna get enthusiastic consent? I have hair on the back of my arms.

Gary Roberts (23:41):

You don’t have consent then,

Sevan Matossian (23:42):

Bro, I’m 50 years old. My nose is larger than fucking my penis. How the fuck am I supposed to get enthusiastic consent? This is crazy,

Gary Roberts (23:51):

Dude. I swear to God, I came outta

Sevan Matossian (23:53):

That enthusiastic consent. I

Gary Roberts (23:55):

Came out of that.

Sevan Matossian (23:56):

Honey, I’m gonna need you to do two back flips and I’m gonna, what? I’m gonna squeeze your vagina if it doesn’t feel tablespoon of juice i’s not enthusiastic enough.

Gary Roberts (24:07):

So some things were like,

Sevan Matossian (24:10):

They’re gonna make your wife hate you with that kind of shit.

Gary Roberts (24:12):

Yeah. The biggest issue was when I met Caroline, I was like, Hey man, I’m being a hundred percent honest with you who I am, my needs and desires. I’m just honest. And it was like, I accept you. I felt heard, I felt accepted. That’s why

Sevan Matossian (24:29):

I couldn’t. Yeah, I remember that. I remember when you met her it was like you guys were very compatible physically. Yeah. And you liked that. Yeah.

Gary Roberts (24:34):

So then because of some of these conversations, some of the stuff got into a bit shamey, like, you’re a sex addict. Do you think about sex too often? I don’t, you know, I think your ex-wife was right. Uh

Sevan Matossian (24:49):

Oh no.

Gary Roberts (24:51):

And I was like, Ooh, them’s fighting words, bro. So then I then I would say, Hey, five years ago it was different. And

Sevan Matossian (25:01):

Are you allowed to have sex with other people?

Gary Roberts (25:04):

No. Oh no. So I would bring up five years ago I said, I said, I feel like, I feel like there’s a bait and switch here because you told me you got me, you understood me, and now I’m kind of trying to stand my ground. We had a problem with the children and I was like, okay, well I’m gonna stand my ground with the sex, so I’m gonna be more flexible on the, the, the, the disagreements with the raising of our babies. But

Sevan Matossian (25:36):

Don’t you not wanna have sex with someone who doesn’t wanna have sex with you? If I thought my wife didn’t wanna have sex with me, I would fucking, I’d probably go into the refrigerator and eat six gallons of ice cream.

Gary Roberts (25:45):


Sevan Matossian (25:46):

And then I’d start crying.

Gary Roberts (25:48):

Well, that’s kind of what happened. I said, I basically told her, I said, dude, I don’t foresee you ever, I don’t know how long it has to go before there’s enthusiastic consent. And the answer is Two weeks. Two weeks. Which is better than, than I thought.

Sevan Matossian (26:04):

What do you mean? Uh, I can go two weeks. What? What’s she saying? Every two, if you don’t get enthusiastic consent in two weeks, you can hold her down and take one.

Gary Roberts (26:13):

No, no, no. The <laugh> in. So the reason my wife was so mad.

Sevan Matossian (26:19):


Gary Roberts (26:21):

Caroline, don’t watch this, don’t share this with Karen. She, she’s, uh, TMI girl. She doesn’t wanna put her business out there.

Sevan Matossian (26:29):

Yeah. Maybe you, well let’s give her a fake name. Let’s call her Judy.

Gary Roberts (26:32):

Okay. Judy’s like, what are you bitching about? You’ve had sex probably three times a week since we met.

Sevan Matossian (26:40):

Yeah, that’s good. That’s good. That’s good.

Gary Roberts (26:41):

So she’s like, what are you about?

Sevan Matossian (26:43):

Yeah, I I’m with her, I’m with her. I like that.

Gary Roberts (26:46):

And I’m like, yes, yes. Yeah, the average is good. And she’s like, he’s you’re bitching I’ve had babies. New job. Yeah. Yeah. And I was like, but per the, per the therapist, there’s no enthusiasm. I was like, I’m just saying I’d like a little more enthusiasm, you know, like the therapist said and she goes, well then you need to want it less so I can build up my desire. Hmm. Okay. So anyways, in December we really had big fights and I was, she was saying it’s the t r t, she was like, it’s the t r t in that fucking sev. We wouldn’t be having this problem. If

Sevan Matossian (27:30):

I am a fucking SevOne, I do do fuck a lot. So I am a fucking SevOne. That’s fair.

Gary Roberts (27:34):

So, and here’s the thing. Shh. I and I, we’ve already gone over this. She’s like, you know, you don’t get up in the morning at seven o’clock for me, but you’ll get up for sev on. So that’s what she kinda looks at. Like, she thinks I favor you more than, than her in terms of like my ability to like go to CrossFit.

Sevan Matossian (28:01):

Uh, that that’s a, that’s a a little bit of a red flag. That’s a little weird to come to that conclusion. But, but go on.

Gary Roberts (28:07):

Right. So anyways, I did get angry because I felt unheard. And so I raised my voice, I did a little yelling and she’s like s t r t business. She’s like, he and the t r t did, we haven’t even got into what I think the impacts of while I was on the T R t and now that I have not been on it since December, cuz I ran out.

Sevan Matossian (28:38):

You haven’t been on since December.

Gary Roberts (28:40):

Yeah. Yeah. That’s what we haven’t talked about. I had injuries, I ran outta my supply anyways.

Sevan Matossian (28:45):

Couldn’t you just go to the pharmacy and get more?

Gary Roberts (28:48):

Well, I got more, it, there was a gap. Okay. There, there was a three week gap because there was a mistake in my, I don’t wanna, it, it really doesn’t matter, but my product didn’t get to me.

Sevan Matossian (29:01):


Gary Roberts (29:03):

Moral of the story is I injured myself. I ran outta t I t and I’m having this huge fight with my wife.

Sevan Matossian (29:11):


Gary Roberts (29:12):

And because I’m 50, I have a, a physical, uh, set up in January to go over, you know, things that happen when you’re 50 years old. So I’m like, listen, would it make you, she’s like, I would at least like you to get a second opinion. Hmm. And I was like,

Sevan Matossian (29:31):

Regarding the T r t.

Gary Roberts (29:32):

Yeah. Regarding T R t.

Sevan Matossian (29:33):

So that’s fair. That’s a fair request. So

Gary Roberts (29:35):

We had this big battle and just to tie up the little sex thing, I was like, fine, if you, I’m not getting enthusiastic consent from you, so then I don’t want it. And I did, I went two weeks, which is the first time like in a long since being single, having no lovings. And

Sevan Matossian (29:55):

Dude, that’s the first time in five years you’ve gone two weeks without smashing your wife.

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